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Plural
Is the plural simply 'Pikachu', or 'Pikachus'? --Apostrophe 05:27, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
- I don't actually know but I say 3 Pikachu or lots of Pikachus. Definate number of Pika~ = Pikachu, indefinate number = Pikachus. --Celestianpower hab 09:22, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
- American words derived from Japanese words have no plurals, so it’s like this: One Pikachu, Five Pikachu, many Pikachu. This is also true for all Pokémon. --Zap 19:24, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
- Exactly - I've heard it, when Team Rocket come across a group of them, and say something to the effect of, "Look at all the Pikachu!" And this carries over to every other Pokémon, too. I should really stop saying "Charmanders." --MasterXiam 22:28, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- I've just changed a couple of stray references to "Pikachus" to "Pikachu", to maintain the general consensus the plural of "Pokémon" is "Pokémon" (etc). Also I've moved the section on the angle of drawing of tails of Pikachu into the "Other Pikachu" section, as it isn't just applicable to Ash's Pikachu. --Kain 16:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- "Look at all the Pikachu!" I also remember that quote JayKeaton 19:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've just changed a couple of stray references to "Pikachus" to "Pikachu", to maintain the general consensus the plural of "Pokémon" is "Pokémon" (etc). Also I've moved the section on the angle of drawing of tails of Pikachu into the "Other Pikachu" section, as it isn't just applicable to Ash's Pikachu. --Kain 16:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- Exactly - I've heard it, when Team Rocket come across a group of them, and say something to the effect of, "Look at all the Pikachu!" And this carries over to every other Pokémon, too. I should really stop saying "Charmanders." --MasterXiam 22:28, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
The official plural of all Pokémon is the same as all their singular names. As Wikidsmaht said, One Snorlax, Two Snorlax, Red Snorlax, Blue Snorlax. Pikachu not Pikachus. Cheers, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 20:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, I said “Green Snorlax, Blue Snorlax”, because its normal coloration is green and cream, more or less( except in Hoenn). If you come across a Red one, call Professor Oak to study it. And then call the shop for a new game ’cuz yours is Phucked up with a capital P. --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Categorizing
Uhm, what's the difference between the Category "Pokémon" and "Pokémon characters"? I was browsing here and there and thought I'd find "pikachuu" under "Pokémon characters", but he wasn't there... shouldn't her belong in there also?
- Category Pokémon seems to be for articles describing the games, objects and general things such as Pokénav, Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, and Pokémon Center. The Pokémon Characters category, on the other hand, is grouping all the 493 Pokémon and the Pokémon Characters
--Fern 13:21, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Confusions
One thing many people are confused about is Pikachu's gender. Even though the concept of genders was introduced in Pokémon Gold and Silver, Pikachu is still called an it and the people of the Pokémon company wish it to remain an ambiguity, allong with Ash's parentage. --Fern 13:21, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Still, during the game's final duel against Pokémon Trainer Red (who is meant to represent Ash) in Mount Silver, his Pikachu is identified as male from the battle screen. While this is not a conclusive piece of evidence, it may give us a hint in that direction. Sinistro 11:09, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- It is generally agreed in the fan community that due to the many differences, facts about Red in the game cannot be used as evidence for any theory regarding Ash in the anime. Murgatroyd 07:56, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
- Whipping out my DVDs, I've noticed there's something in one of the episodes of the animé that suggests Pikachu is a male. It's in the "Princess versus Princess" episode- the narrator claims that on the Princess Festival day, the women get shopping at a discount and the men...get to carry the packages! Pikachu is seen with Ash and Brock holding various things Misty has apparently bought. Pikachu also seems as bored of the festival as Ash and Brock. Only a throwaway moment, you may think, but in the following episode, Brock and Ash claim Kids Day should be a boys-only holiday and Pikachu poses with the two of them, before recieving a smack from Misty for doing so. I suppose you could easily claim that Pikachu is just attached to Ash and sides with him naturally, but following those two examples, I always think Pikachu is a male, in spite of him always being called an "it". --L T Dangerous 14:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
- Ash's Pikachu is probably male. The reason for this is because its first appearance was in the first episode of Pokémon, which in turn was in the first generation of Pokémon. At that time, there was no gender, and unless I am mistaken, in the games, Pokémon traded from generations earlier than the second generation always come out as male (of course, in the case of Nidoran, it could be different). So it should be safe to assume that Ash's Pikachu is male. -- A. Exeunt 02:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
- Either way it isn't important, because we are speculating, and if we added any of our theories, it would be original research. Highway Return to Oz... 11:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
- The reason Pikachu is referred to as an "it" is because it's a species, not a single individual. There are both male and female Pikachu in existence. It's the same deal for Yoshi. But, yes, I think Ash's Pikachu is a male. --Luigifan 04:52, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- In response to A. Exeunt's comment: The Pikachu I traded from Pokémon Yellow to Pokémon Gold turned out to be female. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 23:49, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
In Pokemon Ruby version, a person in one of the Pokemon Centers says that there is no way to tell the difference between Pokemon genders.
- In Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, there is sexual dimorphism amongst species, however, effectively reversing that. -Jeske (How's My Editing?) 23:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Would that make Ash's Pikachu male, since it doesn't have the dent in it's tail? Xyzyxx 04:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
I would like to add that in an early episode of pokemon, "pokemon fashion flash" misty imagined dressing up a pokemon, namely pikachu, and in her imagination pikachu was in a dress. also in the movie short "gotta dance" or any other feature with pokemon dancing, pikachu is dancing with meowth, (who is confirmed male) with pikachu taking the female role in the dance. these things most definitely suggest that pikachu is female. Also, to those who mention gender differences, i would like to add that genders and gender differances were not added until much after pikachu's original creation. --DeathXsolidor 23:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
- But they clearly identify that the design of Ash's Pikachu is a male Pikachu. - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- They do no such thing - Ash's Pikachu was designed roughly nine years before the gender difference among Pikachu came into effect. And in any case, the dented tails could be a Sinnoh-only trait for Pikachu. And, as previously stated, the games and anime are too far apart to say that what happens in one will happen in the other. MelicansMatkin 14:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- The current male design is based on the standard Pikachu design. If Pikachu were female, they would not use the primary design as the male design. - A Link to the Past (talk) 15:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- Ash's Pikachu has been around for nine years before the female design. Your argument has no merit. NO Pokemon before D/P were shown to have gender differences (Nidoran family aside), meaning that every Pokemon ever seen in the anime has been male - which is clearly not the case. MelicansMatkin 23:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- The current male design is based on the standard Pikachu design. If Pikachu were female, they would not use the primary design as the male design. - A Link to the Past (talk) 15:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- They do no such thing - Ash's Pikachu was designed roughly nine years before the gender difference among Pikachu came into effect. And in any case, the dented tails could be a Sinnoh-only trait for Pikachu. And, as previously stated, the games and anime are too far apart to say that what happens in one will happen in the other. MelicansMatkin 14:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
About Meowth dancing w/ Pikachu... he didn't CHOOSE to have pikachu as his dance partner. I think mudkip and treecko dance together, but both of them are males, right? ~Crowstar~ 17:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
- That is a good point, but whether or not they are both male is still questionable. Its seems clear that treeko is male, seeing as how it fell for a meganium as a grovyle, and as for mudkip, I'm not exactly sure. Bulbapedia, a pokemon-themed extention of wikipedia, refered to brock's mudkip as a "she". While this may not be reliable, I have seen many other places where mudkip was refered to as female. But anyway, it seems continuing this arguement on pikachu leads nowhere, because in the beginning, pokemon didnt have genders, they could fall in love with no spefication of their gender (unless said outright), gender differences dont apply to the anime, and there has been no confirmation from the creator of pokemon nor the company itself on pikachu's gender. We may never find out, so it seems all there is left is speculation. --DeathXsolidor 00:10, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Locking this Page
Some people from GameFAQs LUE have decided to vandalise this Pikachu page. It should be locked from editing for a while.
- I have protected the page due to current vandalism. The protection may be removed in a day/couple of hours or so. -- Chris 73 Talk 01:19, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)
Someone vandalized this page again...I can't figure out how to undo it.--Metallurgist 01:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- A template was vandalized. It's already fixed. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
"technical"
The introduction of this article is gibberish if you don't know anything about the subject. It does not explain what Pikachu is. Pikachu (ピカチュウ Pikachū) is an electric mouse Pokémon.. Electric? Mouse? Pokémon? Pokémon tells me that it is a video game franchise - how can something be an "electric mouse video game franchise"? What does this mean? Reading the introduction makes me little wiser. I assume it is some sort of fictional character, but from what? A video game? A manga story? An animé story? I was doubting between {{notenglish}}, {{technical}} and {{fiction}}, and chose the latter two. I, myself, do not understand the introductione one bit. It's too technical. Gerrit MUTE 14:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I see your point -- it's a good one, and the notice you added is very appropriate. I have to remember that not everyone has two kids who went through a phase where Pokemon was just about the center of the universe. :-}
- Has anybody fixed this to make it clearer? I'd be certain that somewhere on the Pokémon page, it would explain how it is in reference to the creatures, as Pokémon is short for "Pocket Monsters." MasterXiam 22:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- You realize this comment is seven months old, correct? The intro has been changed to answer this comment, although if you have a better idea for how it should be phrased, feel free to be bold and change it. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 22:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- Has anybody fixed this to make it clearer? I'd be certain that somewhere on the Pokémon page, it would explain how it is in reference to the creatures, as Pokémon is short for "Pocket Monsters." MasterXiam 22:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Why would anyone who knows nothing of Pok'emon type in Pikachu to Wikipedia? I think if anyone is doing this then they would have a grasp on the basics Ronan.evans 00:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Guess you've never used the random article feature. —WAvegetarian•(talk) 14:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Copyright
Somebody must change the "Pokedex descriptions" section to "Biology." Each Pokedex entry is copyrighted. It should be reworded into paragraphed information.
LALO LOLO
Someone has written lala lolo at the bottom of the page, I can't see it in edit, though. Could someone get rid of it.--60.226.29.20 23:14, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Pikachu Not Evolving on the Series
I know that a brief mention is made on the Pikachu page about Pikachu, on his own, not wishing to evolve into a Riachu but I was wondering if an additional entry should be made about the series Producers probably having more to do with that decision than the actual character. Artemisboy 17:26, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- If Pikachu is so powerful, even if it does not want to, why dosn't it evolve?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.224.11.172 (talk • contribs) 23:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC).
- You know, your post defeats itself. If Pikachu is already so powerful, it theoretically shouldn't need to evolved. And this isn't a page to speculate or discuss "what if" situations. Go to a forum for that.—ウルタプ 00:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- While you are correct that this is not the place for it, that was unnecessarily rude. This person, potentially a productive editor, even one who could help the PCP, may never come back now. Plus, I think you missed the point. I think the anon was looking for a different kind of answer, which I have provided below in case s/he does return. --WikidSmaht (talk) 07:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- Not all Pokémon evolve just by getting stronger. Some of them require special conditions. No matter how strong a Pikachu gets, for example, it only evolves into Raichu when exposed to the radiation of a special kind of stone, known as a Thunder Stone. Additionally, the anime doesn’t always follow the rules. Even though Ash’s Bulbasaur was able to evolve, it resisted. If you would like more information about the methods by which Pokémon can evolve, I invite you to read the article on Pokémon evolution. --WikidSmaht (talk) 07:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- You know, your post defeats itself. If Pikachu is already so powerful, it theoretically shouldn't need to evolved. And this isn't a page to speculate or discuss "what if" situations. Go to a forum for that.—ウルタプ 00:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I wrote "Why dosn't it evolve?" and I know you need a stone, but in the anime where aspects of the games are usualy left out, I thought that pokémon only evolved by level (which isn't mentioned much in the anime) unless it branches out or something. I thought that anime stones just sped up the progress. I know how to evolve a pikachu, because I evolved my friends pikachu I caught just to show him the power of a stone. Thanks though!!! Oh, and I noticed that you called me "s/he", to sove that, I am a "he". WikiLiger(not logged in)--24.224.11.162 00:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I read somewhere that if Pikachu like the way they are and like they're personalitys, they refuse to evolve. Plus, a Raichu would be to big to sit on Ash's shoulder/head.
Arbok to Pikachu?
I don't seem to remember Arbok evolving into Pickacu, is that correct? It also says it on the Arbok page JayKeaton 05:34, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
- No, Pikachu doesn't evolve from Arbok. However, that particular list is for is ordering Pokémon by the National Pokédex, where Arbok is number 24 and Pikachu is number 25. :) --Sparky Lurkdragon 05:58, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
- Pichu evolves into Pikachu.
pichu is johto. Pikachu is kanto. They made pichu later.
40 year old
Okay, it was me who added the sentence "even though in Pokémon COlosseum there appears a Pikachu who is at least 40 years old". Someone reverted it because it was unsourced. How dou you expect me to source that?
In the town where Rui's grandfather lives, Agate Village, there are some people who say that Eagun (the grandfather) was a very popular trainer 40 years ago. Later, just before the fight with a Team Snagem member, Eagun says that Pikachu was his very first Pokémon. You don't have to be Einstein to figure out that Pikachu must be at least 40 years old.
So my statement was not a simply pure speculative fan statement. -- Danilot 20:46, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- You were making an assumption based on fan-info, no primary source has stated the official age of Eagun's Pikachu. If you did use the method described to reach this, it is called "original research", which is useless because you can't cite it and we can't use. All information should be cited as coming from a source, something we can find the related info in. The best way to source all info is to remove fan related comments that can't possibly be sourced so we can cut down on unsourced material. Cheers, Highway Rainbow Sneakers 21:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- It's a logical conjecture from an official game, and the statement makes no assumptions on the exact age, just that the Pikachu is at least 40 since A) NPCs state that Eagun was popular 40 years before the game and B) Eagun says the Pikachu was his first Pokémon. Unless the Pikachu hitched a ride with Celebi or something, it has to be at least forty years old.
- Cite the game, I say. That's where the information comes from, not any fan-source. --Sparky Lurkdragon 22:39, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- "Logical conjecture" is a fancy way of saying "original research". ; P Highway Rainbow Sneakers 22:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- So... apparently there is a strong possibility that we have a time-travelling Pikachu on our hands. Good to know. --Sparky Lurkdragon 22:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- ...More constructively, how about something like this: "It is unknown whether such longevity is unusual for a Pikachu; Pokémon Colosseum does include a Pikachu that seems to be at least 40, based on comments from NPCs, but it is not known if this is an ususal age, either." --Sparky Lurkdragon 23:05, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Which is original research. You can't put something like that in unless you can find a website that says "Eagun's Pikachu is around 40". Even if you're just assuming, and they're no source, it's still original research, which we can't add. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 06:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- In Bulbapedia's article on Eagun, the same information is given: "Eagun still keeps the first Pokémon he ever received with him, a Level 40 Pikachu.". It's not original research, it's pure logic, undeniable and self-evident; there exists no possibility other than that Pikachu being at least 40 years old. Or is someone going to argue that Eagun got his Pikachu 40 years ago but it's only 15 years old? If you already existed 40 years ago, you MUST be at least 40 years old. ... -- Danilot 11:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- You can't cite Bulbapedia, it's not a reliable source since any of us could edit it. It doesn't even matter about the age of the blinking Pikachu, since you could list of all the cameo Pokémon, and it is original research - something you have found out, working something, or theorizing on your own is original research! And Bulbapedia is conflicting with what you had said, proving that their isn't a reliable source on it. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 16:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- I don't believe it's original research if anybody in the world could draw that conclusion from the evidence there is.
If the videogames say A) Eagun has been a trainer for 40 years or more - and B) Pikachu was Eagun's first Pokémon -, then anybody, anywhere, could see the logic in the reasoning. If everyone can see it that way, is it still original research?
Imagine this other case: a comet in the Oort cloud orbits the Sun, and it comes near the Earth once every 16 million years. 1962 was the last time it came near our planet. Would it be original research to add a line saying this comet has only been observed once by scientists? No, it's simple and pure logic, even if this fact is not made explicit in the NASA or ESA website. Logic, unless we're dealing with a fallacy, is true. And this is not a fallacy.
If A is B and B is C, then A is C. Change A for "Pikachu", B for "Eagun's first Pokémon", and C for "40 years old". You simply can't deny it's true.
Just like the Pikachu affair -- Danilot 21:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, but this clearly qualifies as original research. From that page: "Articles may not contain any unpublished theories, data, statements, concepts, arguments, or ideas; or any new analysis or synthesis of published data, statements, concepts, arguments, or ideas that serves to advance a position." This is new synthesis of published data and hence HighwayCello is right: it is not allowed. Regards, --Celestianpower háblame 22:03, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- Trust me, the sooner you learn this lesson the better - I put an article for FAC with original research in it ; P Highway Rainbow Sneakers 22:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, I didn't know "new synthesis of published data" qualified as original research. Guess I'll have to put up with this rule, even if I don't agree with it. lol -- Danilot 14:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
- The argument that this statement qualifies as "original research" is rather pedantic, in my opinion. I think "original research", at least as explained by Jimmy Wales, is an entire article consisting of the various things classified as such, not simply a single statement that could be worked out by basic logic. Of course, for many people basic logic is a major issue, but those people probably aren't around reading Wikipedia, much less writing articles or commenting on them. I, for one, think the particular statement should be in. If the article HighwayCello mentioned was denied Featured Article Candidacy because of a single statement, then the people judging for the candidacy were also being pedantic. Maybe they're supposed to be, or maybe they're just a**es...not for me to say which.SWalkerTTU 05:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
It's like discussing fan fiction in the Harry Potter article, not in canon. We can't be sure, so it's pointless to discuss. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 09:09, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- Are all the people who delete this idiots or something???! Look. Eagun has been legendary for 40 years. He couldn't without a Pokemon. His first Pokemon was Pikachu. Therefore he must have had the Pikachu for AT LEAST 40 years since he became the trainer. And it is NOT a theory - it's the truth! IT PHYSICALLY HAS TO BE! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ダイノーズ (talk)
- Extrapolation is original research. Unless it EXPLICITLY says the Pikachu is 40, it can't be added (as it is, it is only IMPLIED). -Jeske (v^_^v) 17:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Um. That’s not extrapolation. Some might consider it interpolation or inference, but, frankly, it’s more like logical analysis. This is NOT a case of “A and B are true, so I think C is true too.”, this is a case where A and B cannot be true unless C is also. I gotta agree with the n00b here. --WikidSmaht (talk) 21:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Not necessarily. It could be a different Pikachu (i.e. mating) from the original one. Colosseum has no evidence explicitly saying whether the Pikachu Eagun has is the same Chu that he started with or not. All it says is "Pikachu was his very first Pokemon". AFAIK (been a while since I played it), it doesn't say, "The Pikachu he has now was his very first Pokemon". -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm... I took it for granted that Eagun was referring to the Pikachu that is pretty much always with him. I guess if you interpret it as “A Pikachu” was his first Pokémon( which is not what he said, but I suppose the terminology can be unclear), it is ambiguous anough to preclude use in the article. It’s times like this I wish more NPCs nicknamed their Pokémon. As a side note on nicknames, the Surfing ’chu in whose passage age is mentioned was named “Pooka”, NOT “Puka”. --WikidSmaht (talk) 02:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- I played the game. He said that the Pikachu WAS the same as the one he caught.LuGiADude 11:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Can you provide the evidence? Unless and until you can, it cannot be placed in the article (since it violates WP:ATT). -Jeske (v^_^v) 14:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- We usually don’t require additional evidence of something we can cite the games on. I mean, the biology sections are usually cited directly to the games, because the info is from the in-game Pokédexes. Are you suggesting that we need to find or provide screenshots of all the Pokédex entries?
- And, why do you keep putting comments all the way back to the left? The indentation is important to help follow the threading of the conversations. --WikidSmaht (talk) 15:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I'm just a bit paranoid. Don't mind myself or the arguments above the Japanese name's. Jeske (v^_^v) 19:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- At one point of the game (I'm not entirely sure but I think it's after Pikachu gets KOed by Snagem's Hitmontop), Eagun does refer to Pikachu as his companion since the beginning. -- Danilot 19:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, if you don’t know when it happens, how can you be sure when he said it? I would feel better if someone were actually looking at the conversation on the screen and able to quote it directly WHILE posting here on the talk page. --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- "EAGUN: That isn't all, either. I have a comrade with whom I've been through thick and thin!
"EAGUN: This is the first POKéMON I got, and it's been with me ever since!
"EAGUN: Okay, PIKACHU! We haven't battled this much in a while! Let's keep focused!" - This is what he says before he battles the guy with the shadow Hitmontop. So the Pikachu at least was his first Pokémon.—M_C_Y_1008 (talk/contribs) 23:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me, and back in the article it goes. And, to avoid claims of “original research”, I just put facts A and B and let the readers see C for them selves. --WikidSmaht (talk) 07:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- "EAGUN: That isn't all, either. I have a comrade with whom I've been through thick and thin!
- Yeah, if you don’t know when it happens, how can you be sure when he said it? I would feel better if someone were actually looking at the conversation on the screen and able to quote it directly WHILE posting here on the talk page. --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Um... HUH? That answer didn’t make a lick of sense to me. --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- At one point of the game (I'm not entirely sure but I think it's after Pikachu gets KOed by Snagem's Hitmontop), Eagun does refer to Pikachu as his companion since the beginning. -- Danilot 19:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I'm just a bit paranoid. Don't mind myself or the arguments above the Japanese name's. Jeske (v^_^v) 19:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Can you provide the evidence? Unless and until you can, it cannot be placed in the article (since it violates WP:ATT). -Jeske (v^_^v) 14:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Extrapolation is original research. Unless it EXPLICITLY says the Pikachu is 40, it can't be added (as it is, it is only IMPLIED). -Jeske (v^_^v) 17:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Are all the people who delete this idiots or something???! Look. Eagun has been legendary for 40 years. He couldn't without a Pokemon. His first Pokemon was Pikachu. Therefore he must have had the Pikachu for AT LEAST 40 years since he became the trainer. And it is NOT a theory - it's the truth! IT PHYSICALLY HAS TO BE! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ダイノーズ (talk)
Well, you need to be ten to be a trainer, and Eagun's pikachu was his first, so maybe the pikachu is 30? oh, and the Eagun and pikachu thing sounds alot like Ash and his Pikachu.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.132.61 (talk) 01:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Piakchu
I don't get it. Why do you guys keep removing the mention about Piakchu in Arfenhouse just because the series is "non-notable"? I mean, it's a freaking cult parody series which "has developed a fanbase within the Newgrounds and deviantART communities.". How is that "non-notable"? Pikawil 00:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- DeviantART? :O Let's add it straight away. ¬_¬ Highway Rainbow Sneakers 07:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Original Research
"Its most common sentence is "Pika-pika". When it wants to talk to Ash it says "Pika-pi," which sounds similar to "Satoshi", and calls Misty "Pikachupi" similar to her Japanese name of "Kasumi". It refers to Togepi as "Pipipi", probably because in Japanese, "pii" means "little"."
That sounds like original research to me. Anyone care to comment? Vancar 16:18, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- It's likely the explanation for the common use of those sounds in reference to those characters, but yes, OR. ::::piepants
I did it!
Biology! It took me 2 hours. If anyone has a problem with it, talk here before deleting it, please. Supermariorobot 23:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well done! What you wrote was very impressive, but I had to remove a portion of it, since you make references to the anime and manga, while the characteristics section is just for the video games, since it is the only canon that actually exists. I kept your text and left to paragraphs, thank you much. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 00:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well, okay... Just wondering, which parts are you talking about, exactly? By which I mean, what parts of it had to do with the anime/manga? And why can't they be used, anyway? I'm glad someone at least thought it was a good idea, at least. Ill post it here, so people can comment on it without checking the history, ok?
Here it is:
==Biology== A Pikachu (plural also Pikachu) is a ground-dwelling mammal belonging to a subspecies of [[rodent]]s including itself, it's evolutions, [[Plusle]], [[Minun]], and possibly undiscovered others, although pikachu are by far the most well known. Pikachu have short, yellow fur with brown stripes on its back, black-tipped ears, along with an unusually shaped tail, resembling a lightning bolt. They are often found in forests, plains, and occasionally near electrical sources, on most continents throughout the world. It is also a popular pet, and relatively easy to maintain, with little exercise necessary for it's well being, although periodic electric discharge is extremely important. Pikachu are known to have acute senses of hearing, thanks to its large ears. Most domestic pikachu are very intelligent, understanding and interpreting human [[speech]] at levels far surpassing those of any pet [[dog]]. Mice can be harmful [[pests]], eating and sometimes destroying telephone poles, and other electronic equipment. In communities found near wooded areas, it is not uncommon for a pikachu to sometimes show up under or near houses, presumably attracted by the electrical output generated by the dwellers' appliances. ===Diet=== Living in wooded areas, pikachu often are found foraging for berries. Instead of climbing trees, they use small electrical shocks to release the berries from the tree, roasting them at the same time. As pets, they can be fed a variety of processed food, available at many pet stores. Alternatively, pikachu are tolerant to most "human" food, and sometimes enjoy it more then the more nutritional food designed for their biology. ===Electrical Abilities=== Exclusive to the Pikachu's subspecies is the obvious ability to release electric discharges of varying intensity, at will, through glandular pouches residing in its cheeks. These glands allow it to store and release a unique form of chemical energy, which can be released in bolts of lightning or [[ball lightning]] to defend itself from attackers, to cook food, to be used in battle, at the command from it's trainer, or in self-defense in the wild. Pikachu are rarely known to purposefully attack others besides the aforementioned, but particularly aggressive pikachu have been recorded. Pikachu often travel in packs, and are rarely territorial. However, when threatened, a group can generate an intense electrical offensive, and the electro-magnetic forces exerted by the resulting field can even produce a short lived, localized thunderstorm. As pikachu build up energy in their electricity glands, it is often needed to discharge, as to not result in a short, or worse, which can lead to physical [[Paralysis ]], or in severe cases, death. Pikachu release the built-up energy through their tail, which acts as a grounding rod, to safely remove unneeded energy. A sure sign to tell if a location is inhabited by pikachu (or a member of its subspecies) is to look for patches of burnt grass, which is the result of the discharge. Through an inability to release a buildup of electricity, a pikachu may develop a rare condition, very similar to the human [[flu]]. This illness is most often caused by strong nearby electro-magnetic forces, which severely impact the electric glands. If a pikachu is introduced to a magnet, it will be attracted towards its cheeks, and display other common attributes of [[magnetism]].
Supermariorobot 00:32, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
You know what else? I made some of that stuff up, too. Death from inability to discharge? Rarely teratorial? Hell, I don't know if a tree being hit with an electric shock will release fruit. A lot of it was assumption. But, if it works, go with it, right? Why not? It was well written, and it fit, right? And another thing... The Anime and Manga? those arent sources? I cant take info from there? Why not? Nintendo made 'em. Nintendo sold 'em. Its got their seal on the damn cover! Who says the Anime isnt the only canon, and the games and manga can't be sources, or the Manga the only source?
If I came off a little rude, I apologize. But, like I said, 2 hours. Im proud of it. How about a reconsideration?
Supermariorobot 03:09, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- A lot of it was original research, and the anime and manga aren't canon, it's on the games. Nintendo owns them yes, but they are interpretations and mutalations of Pikachu in the games. In the games it says they eat berries, but we've seen in the anime that they like ketchup. It's interpretation, which makes it not true canon. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 10:21, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- Is that for Pikachu in general, or just Ash's specimen? Regardless, adding a biology section seems like an interesting prospect... but I don't even want to think about doing it for the other 385 Pokémon... --Luigifan 04:45, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- They all get one, and already have one. Check this place out. -- THL 05:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Is that for Pikachu in general, or just Ash's specimen? Regardless, adding a biology section seems like an interesting prospect... but I don't even want to think about doing it for the other 385 Pokémon... --Luigifan 04:45, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
is the burt grass realy true? and you should add that in the anime, pikachu are rare. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.132.61 (talk) 01:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
All tasks complete
Yay, all the pending tasks have finally been complete, if theres anything wrong with the article, please add more tasks, cheers —M inun (Spiderman) 15:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- "If there's anything wrong...?" Well, speaking as someone who has never watched a Pokemon cartoon, never read a Pokemon manga, never paid any attention to anything Pokemon beyond the normal occasional intrusions received secondhand through friends who have children, and came to this Wiki page out of curiosity to learn more, I have this to say about this article:
- "Huh?"
- In other words, if someone unfamiliar with Pokemon reads this article, the reader has to dig pretty deep down to get any idea what it's all about. The "Cultural Impact" section isn't illuminating without some context; therefore it would be helpful if the "Cultural Impact" section were moved to the bottom, leaving the explanatory text (biology, story backgrounds) near the top. Amatulic 20:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- This isn't up to the high standards of the wikipedia community, despite what some people may think. Please Charizard, Torchic or Bulbasaur for a more simplistic and descriptive article. Highway Return to Oz... 21:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
New Pikachu Balloon
I personally spoke with Robin Miller in Philadelphia (where Macy*s was opening up their Philadelphia flagship store in Center City at the old John Wanamaker flagship location), the Thanksgiving Parade's executive director, and he personally told me there will be a brand new Pikachu Balloon in this year's parade. I have added that information to the article under the pop culture section of the story. NoseNuggets 7:41 AM US EDT Aug 4 2006
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"Giant Member"
I saw this under the Characteristics heading: "To the point where it can suffer lightning strikes to it's giant member without difficulty. I wondered if it was deliberate sabotage or not, but either way I think it sounds less vulgar now. Blitzace123 23:39, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- Aah... *runs to the bathroom and pukes* Glad to see that it's gone. That could have grossed out a lot of people. --Luigifan 04:41, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Internet Fad Pikachu
What's the deal with this new "Internet Fad Pikachu" picture that just up and appeared? I want to know if it's appropriate for the article. -Jeske (Complaints Hotline) 02:59, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- I killed it, it didn't need to be in the article. If anyone disagrees, say why here. The Hybrid Lives 03:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
FA #4?
What still needs to be done to pikachu to make it ready to be a featured article? The Hybrid Lives 04:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- Minun's edits need undone still, he cited Amazon pages for just about everything, I think I got rid of it them though. The thing needs a scrub up, general citing, which shouldn't be that hard. Creation and background need re-written, I think there is something in the Wall Street journal about them, they'll be a lot more pressure for outside sources. You're welcome to help! :) Highway Grammar Enforcer! 12:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- I will, I just needed to know what to do. I'll start with rewriting Creation and backround. THL 14:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Pika Pika Pika
An anon just said that Pika Pika Pika was the name of a song by Bananarama and performed in Europe. I doubt this, but I am not European so I don't know if it is true. Is it? THL 12:53, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- I searched through their official site and could not find any song by this name anywhere. So my guess is that it is false information. If there is a song by this name, perhaps they do not perform it, but they definately did not write it. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 21:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- Sweet, thanks. I didn't think it was true, but for the moment I had to AGF. Cheers. THL 01:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
It appears AMIB was way ahead of me, thats what I get for sleeping all day I guess. THL 01:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
pikachu's gender, the saga continues
i know one thing, pikachu is a female becuse it's voice actor, ikue ootani did the voice of hana-chan from ojamajo doremi dookan and theres a song callded demone de hana-chan to prove it.
- ojamajo's page and click enter.
Sir aaron sama girl 02:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- Ash is voiced by Veronica Taylor also a female, voice actors prove nothing. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 02:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- The same could be said for Bart Simpson (in that he's voiced by a woman). -Jeske (How's My Editing?) 04:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
In one of the Japanese-only features, Pikachu is transformed into a semi-human form, but still has its ears, tail, and some of its fur. In this form, Pikachu is distinctly female, looking about Ash's age. Also, this may need research, but I believe trading your first Pikachu from Pokemon Yellow to a later game will result in the traded Pikachu's gender being female. 70.161.7.138 23:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yellow doesn't count, as it's not technically Ash's Pikachu. Anyway, I think the gender's randomally selected for all Pokémon traded from Red, Blue, and Yellow to Gold, Silver, and Crystal (just like Pokémon in the wild). How could there be a pre-determined gender? A Japanese feature of what only does Pikachu turn human? Kochdude388 23:08, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think “feature” was meant as in “Feature Film”, the anon most likely meant OVA, though surely not an official one. --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
True, voice actors don't prove anything. The reason why all these characters (like Ash, Bart Simpson) are done by female voice artists is because since they are young characters, their voice is higher still. The guys would already be well past puberty and wouldn't be able to make their character sound young with a deep voice. Ksy92003 19:24, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- We will know soon, as in the games, some pokemon look different based on gender, if we see that during D/P series, then we will know for a fact that it is a male, as female in D/P has a weird shaped tail =P Also, Hikari's Buneary is female and has a crush on Pikachu xD and considering it's a kids program, 99% chance Pikachu is male >.< 70.231.249.170 05:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- 1) the games and anime are quite different, not to mention that genders and their differences were introduced after ash's pikachu was created. 2) do you have proof that hikari's buneary is female? and 3) in the movie short "gotta dance" pikachu is seen dancing with meowth, a male, with meowth taking the "male" role and pikachu taking the "female" role. and based on what you stated that it is a kid's program, wouldn't it be appropriate for pikachu to be a female? --DeathXsolidor 23:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure if anyone told you, but games and anime are separate. Any developments in the games cannot be applied to the anime. -Jeske (v^_^v) 05:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Anime-wise, if I recall, on the girl's day episode, it was stated that on girl's day, girls get to go out shopping, and the guys have to go with them and carry their shopping bags. If memory serves, Pikachu ends up carrying a bag, which would imply Pikachu is a male. Sparky-sama 09:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Buneary is a girl. in the episode "steamboat willies" (in D/P) buneary, happiny, and aipom were in little dresses. watch it. its true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.132.61 (talk) 01:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
some questions as i edit this article
i'm not sure what the policy is on certain things... specifically, if we should talk about Pikachu as the many Pikachus of the Pokemon world, or The species of the Pikachu. also, the gender is never made explicit about Ash's pika, so i'm going to refer to it as an it.
and i raised this point in the pcp talk page before, and i'm going to raise it here: certain things are never mentioned and never refered to in the Pokemon franchise, therefore, we should not mention them in trying to define Pokemon. Talks of predator/prey, anatomical features in Pokemon where they're not important, or any other science term is relevant or appropriate, and has no place in a WP aricle about them (although I guess there is in fan fiction or something) Therefore, in this article, when I see something like this, i will remove itBlueaster 08:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well, be bold, but don't be reckless. Cheers, -- THL 09:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
This part was interesting, but out of place in the pop culture section and unreferenced.
"The phrase "Pika-pika" is often considered funny: the Japanese expression "pika-pika hikaru" means stroke of lightning; it is also used to denote a small bald spot on the very top of the head still surrounded by hair. "Pika-pika" can also mean "shining" or "shimmering" and denotes the electric element of Pikachu." Blueaster 18:39, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
I suggest that we get this article protected
alot of the edits are vandalisms and reverts Blueaster 17:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- But most of the vandalism comes from anon IP's. Semi-pro would be a better option, but neither semi or full are likely. -Jeske (Complaints Dept.) 17:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
but wouldnt getting it protected block all the anonymous IPs? Blueaster 01:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- No, full protection blocks most EVERYONE. Semi-pro blocks anonymous IPs and accounts younger than four days. -Jeske (Complaints Dept.) 01:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think that even bureaucrats can edit protected pages. So, that means around 7 people total can edit protected pages. Cheers, -- THL 04:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
ok, but u know that what i was thinking about was getting this page Semiprotected
- In any case, it's incredibly unlikely to happen. The vandalism isn't so pervasive of a problem that semi-protection is necessary (contrast with Bulbasaur after it got its FA status). -Jeske (Complaints Dept.) 18:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- THL, admins and higher (including bureaucrats, stewards, etc.) can edit protected pages. Greeves (talk • contribs) 16:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I figured that out later on, and I had to change my sig. Peace, -- The Hybrid 01:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Lagomorph?
Is Pikachu actually a lagomorph? I ask this because just because it has the name of a lagomorph in it (Pika), concensus has been both here and pika that Pikachu is not based off of the pika. (See Pika's talk page) -Jeske (Complaints Dept.) 03:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
No Pikachu is not a lagomorph. That's been detailed both on this page, and on the pika page, though the references to both have since been deleted. Pikachu is a mouse (Mus), not a pika (Ochotona). -Kain 10:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Danke. -Jeske (v^_^v) 19:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Source? --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- If you're referring to the Latin, I'm sure he's only using them as comparisons. i don't think he's trying to upstage Oddium wanderus. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, I meant the assertion that both articles dealt with the issue at some point. And why are you replying to this comment? :-p I am still waiting for you to clarify yours above. --WikidSmaht (talk) 07:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- If you're referring to the Latin, I'm sure he's only using them as comparisons. i don't think he's trying to upstage Oddium wanderus. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Pardon me, but Pikachu, though it contains the word 'Pika,' is not based on the Pika at all. Mack-the-random (Got a bone to pick?) 22:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- This has been stated at Talk:Pika as well, and I will note that Pikachu is a direct transliteration from the Japanese. -Jéské (Blah v^_^v) 23:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Splitting article to deal with Ash's Pikachu?
Might it be an idea to split the article into Pikachu, ie. this article that deals with Pikachu[s] in general, and a separate article, eg. Pikachu_(anime) to deal with Ash's Pikachu separately? Ash's Pikachu is a MAJOR character, and Meowth has his own section as part of the Team Rocket (Jessie/James/Meowth) page, rather than lumping all the developments of Ash's Pikachu as a character in the main page that deals with Pikachu as a species. -Kain 10:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Wasn’t there somethinglike that before? --WikidSmaht (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Funny, I was just thinking of suggesting this. Anyway, Pikachu in the anime and manga are very unique, to the point where i think that they should be separated to a their own article. However, I don't want that to create a precedent to create articles for say Misty's Togepi or something like that. - A Link to the Past (talk) 14:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Image
I've seen people reverting my image chnage. Let me just say my image looks better, in fact, it almost looks scalable. But if anyone disagrees, how about, instead of violating the 3RR, we discuss it here? --98E 14:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Usually when placing a new picture on a higher traffic article, one will bring it up on the talk page before adding it. The picture doesn't go with the rest of the current Sugimori art, and looks weird, so I see no benefit in keeping it. Nemu 14:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- But it looks way nicer. You know, scalable images should be used over others, and the one I'm putting is almost scalable, while the other one isn't as much. --98E 14:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'm going to have to agree with TTN. If we use that picture, then we would have to change all of the other Pokémon articles to match that style. Do we even have one of every Pokémon in that style? We need to be consistent with the images. --LuigiManiac 14:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Suggestion: How about we use both? That seems better. --98E 21:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- How about no? Per the fair use policy, images must significantly contribute to the article; yours doesn't. Nemu 21:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Unless it has a fair use rationale, which it does. --98E 21:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- No, that applies to all FU images. The rational is what lets them be used in the first place. Nemu 21:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, unless we work this out, the article will be protected for as long as we live. And I'm not gonna agree to simply not using my image because I like it way better and it looks way better. --98E 21:18, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, it's everybody here against you. The fact you want to use a picture you uploaded means nothing. Nemu 21:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not going to give in that easily. --98E 21:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, it's everybody here against you. The fact you want to use a picture you uploaded means nothing. Nemu 21:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, unless we work this out, the article will be protected for as long as we live. And I'm not gonna agree to simply not using my image because I like it way better and it looks way better. --98E 21:18, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- No, that applies to all FU images. The rational is what lets them be used in the first place. Nemu 21:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Unless it has a fair use rationale, which it does. --98E 21:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia works by building concensus, and concensus is that the article that *was* originally there works better. Besides, if the "I like it" argument were valid, Bulbasaur would still have a picture of a penis from when vandals placed it on while it was an FA. -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Idea: Maybe I should convert mine into SVG to make it the best image to use? --98E 21:26, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Just stop. The image will not be used. Nemu 21:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Image type is irrelevant. -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I suggest you read WP:USOP. If I make it into an SVG, you can't say I can't use it. --98E 21:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- 98E, maybe you should just accept that if every other editor believes it should not be in the article, then it will not be in it. Wikipedia is a fantastic place, but you must understand that when you are outvoted, that is the end of it. MelicansMatkin 21:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- WP:USOP states that it's a rule that SVG's must be used over PNG's and other formats no matter what. --98E 21:34, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Care to highlight the exact sentence that says that? MelicansMatkin 21:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- (Conflict) You don't understand. Everyone is saying NO to your image. SVG, PNG, JPEG, it doesn't matter - there's no concensus to add your piccy. -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:37, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Here, screenshot with highlighted sentence. --98E 21:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- You said: WP:USOP states that it's a rule that SVG's must be used over PNG's and other formats no matter what. The screenshot says: SVG is the preferred format. See the difference? MelicansMatkin 21:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Here, screenshot with highlighted sentence. --98E 21:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- (Conflict) You don't understand. Everyone is saying NO to your image. SVG, PNG, JPEG, it doesn't matter - there's no concensus to add your piccy. -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:37, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Care to highlight the exact sentence that says that? MelicansMatkin 21:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- WP:USOP states that it's a rule that SVG's must be used over PNG's and other formats no matter what. --98E 21:34, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- 98E, maybe you should just accept that if every other editor believes it should not be in the article, then it will not be in it. Wikipedia is a fantastic place, but you must understand that when you are outvoted, that is the end of it. MelicansMatkin 21:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I suggest you read WP:USOP. If I make it into an SVG, you can't say I can't use it. --98E 21:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Image type is irrelevant. -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Just stop. The image will not be used. Nemu 21:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Idea: Maybe I should convert mine into SVG to make it the best image to use? --98E 21:26, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- And what CONCENSUS do you have? Concensus trumps your screen shot, and it's saying, "Hell, no, it won't go!" -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- 98E, I invite you to read WP:CON. MelicansMatkin 21:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- But it means pretty much the same thing, and, if it is preferred, it is a hell of a bad thing to use PNG instead of SVG. --98E 21:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- And? It still isn't policy, nullifying your argument. Nemu 21:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- 98E, you're reading too much into it. There is a huge difference. Saying that SVG is preferred over PNG is like saying that I prefer Chocolate ice cream over Mint Chip. I'll take the chocolate if I can, but if not then I'm more than happy with the alternative. Saying it's a rule is just twisting the statement - by no means does it HAVE to be used. MelicansMatkin 21:50, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Fine, I guess, by that logic, I should replace all uses of any SVG's and replace them with JPG's where ever they're used if you really believe that. --98E 21:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- 98E, have you even listened to what MelicansMatkin and I have been saying to you? Regardless of whether the rule is mandated or optional, there is absolutely no concensus to add the picture you uploaded! -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Whereas by your logic, 98E, we'd have to change every single Pokemon image. You know what, you can do whatever you want with every image on Wikipedia. Odds are you'll just be blocked. MelicansMatkin 21:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I did read WP:CON. I just think that if other pages use SVG's and it stays that way forever, why can't this one? --98E 22:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Because of every single reason listed above - want me to go over them again? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MelicansMatkin (talk • contribs) 22:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC).
- I did read WP:CON. I just think that if other pages use SVG's and it stays that way forever, why can't this one? --98E 22:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Whereas by your logic, 98E, we'd have to change every single Pokemon image. You know what, you can do whatever you want with every image on Wikipedia. Odds are you'll just be blocked. MelicansMatkin 21:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- 98E, have you even listened to what MelicansMatkin and I have been saying to you? Regardless of whether the rule is mandated or optional, there is absolutely no concensus to add the picture you uploaded! -Jeske (v^_^v) 21:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Fine, I guess, by that logic, I should replace all uses of any SVG's and replace them with JPG's where ever they're used if you really believe that. --98E 21:52, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- 98E, you're reading too much into it. There is a huge difference. Saying that SVG is preferred over PNG is like saying that I prefer Chocolate ice cream over Mint Chip. I'll take the chocolate if I can, but if not then I'm more than happy with the alternative. Saying it's a rule is just twisting the statement - by no means does it HAVE to be used. MelicansMatkin 21:50, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- And? It still isn't policy, nullifying your argument. Nemu 21:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- But it means pretty much the same thing, and, if it is preferred, it is a hell of a bad thing to use PNG instead of SVG. --98E 21:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- If you have read WP:CON, then WHY are you still fighting concensus, which is currently against your pic?-Jeske (v^_^v) 22:04, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think you get it. What I'm saying is, because SVG's are favored due to their scalabality, all articles MUST use them if an SVG image for the article is available. Anyway, I'm requesting the current image be re-created as an SVG. --98E 22:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- No, it is preferred for the images to be in the SVG format. Who, besides you, cares? Nemu 22:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- "Preferred" and "Mandatory" are two separate words. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- See here. It says at the end to accept that SVG is the correct Wikipedia format. --98E 22:10, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Where, exactly? At the end it says to accept that a certain pic might not be used on Wikipedia. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Look, it clearly says "So stop this lame edit war. "Accept that SVG is the way Wikipedia is heading." --98E 22:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Key word: "HEADING." WP:USOP says it is preferred, not mandated, so there is NO NEED to convert. Besides, a user's talk page is not policy, regardless of whether it was a former ArbCom member or Jim himself posting it. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- It's not the talk page of a user, it's the talk page of an article. And if an admin posts it we need to do what he/she says. --98E 22:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Admins are just users with special buttons. They have no more power in an argument than we do. Just stop this already. The picture will not go up. Nemu 22:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Insult them again and I'll report you for personal attacks! --98E 22:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- You're just raving now MelicansMatkin 22:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'm only telling him to not make personal attacks! --98E 22:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- That's not an attack. I believe it's even a direct quote from something like WP:ADMIN. Nemu 22:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'm only telling him to not make personal attacks! --98E 22:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- You're just raving now MelicansMatkin 22:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Insult them again and I'll report you for personal attacks! --98E 22:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Admins are just users with special buttons. They have no more power in an argument than we do. Just stop this already. The picture will not go up. Nemu 22:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- It's not the talk page of a user, it's the talk page of an article. And if an admin posts it we need to do what he/she says. --98E 22:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Key word: "HEADING." WP:USOP says it is preferred, not mandated, so there is NO NEED to convert. Besides, a user's talk page is not policy, regardless of whether it was a former ArbCom member or Jim himself posting it. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Look, it clearly says "So stop this lame edit war. "Accept that SVG is the way Wikipedia is heading." --98E 22:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Where, exactly? At the end it says to accept that a certain pic might not be used on Wikipedia. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- See here. It says at the end to accept that SVG is the correct Wikipedia format. --98E 22:10, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- "Preferred" and "Mandatory" are two separate words. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- No, it is preferred for the images to be in the SVG format. Who, besides you, cares? Nemu 22:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think you get it. What I'm saying is, because SVG's are favored due to their scalabality, all articles MUST use them if an SVG image for the article is available. Anyway, I'm requesting the current image be re-created as an SVG. --98E 22:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. This has degenerated into rants on his part and attempted peacekeeping on ours. He simply spake the truth; he made no personal attacks.-Jeske (v^_^v) 22:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I've asked Yamla, an experienced administrator, for their advice on this matter. You can see my request here. MelicansMatkin 22:34, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, it wasn't a personal attack. But back to before. I noticed you said "Whereas by your logic, we'd have to change every Pokemon image." That's no problem, I could easily create SVG's of all 493 Pokemon. --98E 00:25, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah. Anyway. Let's get back to the point. Why is an anime screenshot better than a piece of Sugimori's official art, exactly?—Loveはドコ? (talk • contribs) 00:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- The image currently in place is not an anime screenshot, it is Sugimori artwork. When Fire Red and Leaf Green were released as part of the third generation, Ken Sugimori redrew every one of the first 150 Pokemon. If you would like to compare between the first (Red/Blue/Yellow) and third (Ruby/Sapphire/FR/LG/Emerald), the website Pokebeach has the original Sugimori artwork from both. The image currently on the page is third-gen Sugimori artwork. MelicansMatkin 01:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I know. 98E wants to use an anime screenshot/artwork/whatever still the anime not Sugimori.—Loveはドコ? (talk • contribs) 01:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, my image wasn't cropped from a screenshot, I don't think. It's probably drawn by someone as a derivated work from another website, because I didn't make it myself. I just looked at the history for Pikachu.png and saw that one there. --98E 14:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, in any case, it's obviously a piece for the anime. We've made a point of only using Sugimori's official artwork.—Loveはドコ? (talk • contribs) 14:39, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, my image wasn't cropped from a screenshot, I don't think. It's probably drawn by someone as a derivated work from another website, because I didn't make it myself. I just looked at the history for Pikachu.png and saw that one there. --98E 14:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I know. 98E wants to use an anime screenshot/artwork/whatever still the anime not Sugimori.—Loveはドコ? (talk • contribs) 01:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- The image currently in place is not an anime screenshot, it is Sugimori artwork. When Fire Red and Leaf Green were released as part of the third generation, Ken Sugimori redrew every one of the first 150 Pokemon. If you would like to compare between the first (Red/Blue/Yellow) and third (Ruby/Sapphire/FR/LG/Emerald), the website Pokebeach has the original Sugimori artwork from both. The image currently on the page is third-gen Sugimori artwork. MelicansMatkin 01:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah. Anyway. Let's get back to the point. Why is an anime screenshot better than a piece of Sugimori's official art, exactly?—Loveはドコ? (talk • contribs) 00:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Okay, it wasn't a personal attack. But back to before. I noticed you said "Whereas by your logic, we'd have to change every Pokemon image." That's no problem, I could easily create SVG's of all 493 Pokemon. --98E 00:25, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- I've asked Yamla, an experienced administrator, for their advice on this matter. You can see my request here. MelicansMatkin 22:34, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- 98E, I invite you to read WP:CON. MelicansMatkin 21:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- How about no? Per the fair use policy, images must significantly contribute to the article; yours doesn't. Nemu 21:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Suggestion: How about we use both? That seems better. --98E 21:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'm going to have to agree with TTN. If we use that picture, then we would have to change all of the other Pokémon articles to match that style. Do we even have one of every Pokémon in that style? We need to be consistent with the images. --LuigiManiac 14:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- But it looks way nicer. You know, scalable images should be used over others, and the one I'm putting is almost scalable, while the other one isn't as much. --98E 14:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
(un-indent) well, why don't we just make the current Pikachu.png into an SVG? Then there's no reason to quarrel over this. 98E, u are wikilawyering around to get your way. We've told you the reason for why the current image is being used, and if your only argument is to make the one you want an SVG, we can easily compromise by changing the current pic's format. I, personally, don't even know what image it is you are talking about. It couldn't be the one that looks like Image:PikachuMouse.PNG which you're saying is so much better. The consensus is that we use sugimori artwork in all cases possible as it creates a uniform aesthetic appeal and is known to be an accurate representation of the character. If you would like to change all 500+ pictures (sugimori is used for human characters as well) please feel free to bring up your project idea to WP:POKE but i have a strong suspicion that you won't receive consensus there either. -ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 19:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
- I certainly see no problems with that solution. The image you listed should also be removed from the manga section, as it offers nothingin relation to the manga - perhaps a screenshot from one of the Manga series would be more adequate. In any case, I feel that it is about time that this page was unprotected. MelicansMatkin 19:20, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
change the image, please :D
Pikachu doesn't have that face. For people unacquainted with Pikachu they may actually think that's Pikachu. Kakuuunowazawai 10:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- Care to elaborate? I don't understand what you're asking, given the pic currently up has been there since WAAAAAY before the prot. -Jeske (v^_^v) 05:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- Someone uploaded a vandalism picture over the Sugimori(?) artwork, and was reverted by the time you saw this message. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.58.119.52 (talk) 07:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC).
requesting to remove unneeded redundant image
I would like to remove the image Image:PikachuMouse.PNG from the Manga section. It is redundant to the main image, offering no extra context, and completely irrelevant to the section it was placed in. As such it is a decorative fair use image. -ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 18:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed && Done. --Deskana (AFK 47) 21:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Vandalism Warning Templates
I've noticed quite a lot of vandalism occuring on this article recently, and on many other Pokemon articles (especially Koffing). I've seen most of these vandalism edits reverted (which is good), but I've also seen the vandals talk pages remain untouched by vandalism warnings, unless they've been placed by a bot (which is bad). I'm new to editing this article, but I've made quite a few edits elsewhere on Wikipedia, and I thought that I should point out what I'm going to say to everyone, in case tyou are not familiar with this.
After you have reverted a vandals edit, you can easily warn them not to do it again by posting Vandalism Warning Tempplates on their userpages. Yes, vandals will probably ignore these warnings, but they should be posted in any case - it helps admins, and after so many warnings, the User account or IP can be blocked. For those interested, the templates are at WP:WARN. Again, it makes life a lot easier on everyone if these templates can be used. Start at level one, then work your way up. If a vandal is already at, say level three, then post a level four warning. Reference the article too, just for clarity. MelicansMatkin 03:52, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- Already do. Most people, however, can't because everywhere they turn, there's another vandal/spammer/Jobber/hacker ruining an article. They don't have time to place warnings without getting behind, especially since Pokémon articles are amongst the most frequently hit. Further, we just got off of a bunch of D/P-Serebii crap, so give us some slack! -Jeske (v^_^v) 04:25, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- My point is that it only takes a minute to post a warning template. When vandalism has not occurred for several hours, then there is no reason why a template cannot be added to a User's Talk Page. Even if there is no vandalism to revert, its not a bad idea to do a quick check of the article's history to check out any suspicious edits. MelicansMatkin 04:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, Mel, common sense says investigate both the user history and the article history. -Jeske (v^_^v) 12:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- This is only partially related but we will have less vandals for 2 weeks because this article was semi protected. :) While we wait for the vandals to be able to return practice better vandal fighting (as in using the templates). Twinkle will help with this. Funpika 18:51, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, Mel, common sense says investigate both the user history and the article history. -Jeske (v^_^v) 12:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- My point is that it only takes a minute to post a warning template. When vandalism has not occurred for several hours, then there is no reason why a template cannot be added to a User's Talk Page. Even if there is no vandalism to revert, its not a bad idea to do a quick check of the article's history to check out any suspicious edits. MelicansMatkin 04:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Japanese Pikachu name
Pikachu's Katakana name is wrong. It's ピカチュウ (pi-ka-chu-u), not a bunch of unrelated kanji. Fix it ASAP 200.104.178.138 01:02, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Image
Does anyone else think that a picture comparing male and female Pikachu would be useful for commentary? I would find one but the internet is wonky here. Voretus 21:28, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey!
Has anybody seen the main picture recently?
- Already dealt with while you were posting, sir. -Jeske (v^_^v) 22:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
GA removal
This article has four missing citations, a large amount of guide content in the video game section, and no sources for what its name means. - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Light Ball
As well as increasing the Special Attack, doesn't it also mean that if one breeds a Pikachu or Raichu with Light Ball the offspring Pichu will know Volt Tackle? Or is that another item? --Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 09:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
- You are correct, the Light Ball will produce a Pichu with Volt Tackle if Pikachu or Raichu is bred. It also doubles Pikachu's Spec. Att. (and only Pikachus) - this means that a Pikachu holding a Light Ball has a greater Spec. Att. than Raichu! MelicansMatkin 14:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Removed from GA
Here are the reasons:
- Game guide content along with OR.
- In-universe characteristics section(This is not acceptable at all, per GA criteria)
Vikrant Phadkay 16:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
In-universe tag on Biological characteristics section
I've put an in-universe tag on the biological characteristics section because I feel the "biological characteristics" section is very in-universe. It's a fictional creature, so its biological characteristics are fictional, and should be treated as such. You can read WP:WAF for more ideas on how to make it read more out of universe. -Malkinann 09:01, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Not sure why this was re-nominated
It was at GA/R, (though someone apparently forgot to archive it) and in a 3 to 1 decision, this article as been relisted as a GA, primarily because although there were some issues with in-universe style, most people agreed that the issues wern't severe enough to deny this article GA status. Review archived at: Wikipedia:Good article review/Archive 28 Homestarmy 14:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Fixes
I've fixed some errors in grammar and spelling, as well as added some extra information that was missing. Admeister200x 9th of October 2007 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 14:28, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Good job everyone!!!
I'm just here to say that I'm glad to see that someone here has been keeping the article streamlined and cruft-free. Yay! Blueaster 20:00, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Pika in Smash Bros.
Should we add any further info about Pikachu in the Smash Bros. series? Pezzar (talk) 07:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Pikachu does play a major roll in the 3 Smash Bros. series, but I think the current paragraph(s) is fine. We could possibly add a single sentence about (his/her) role in SSE, but that's about it. --haha169 (talk) 00:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
GA to FA
Well, I'm trying to get this article improved to FA status, so if anyone wants to pitch in, that'd be great. Useight (talk) 02:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Linking
Please don't link this into the article List of Pokemon I think such Pikachu is Ash Ketchum's Pokemon it deserves to stay the same Matthew Cantrell (talk) 02:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean, are you requesting that the page not be redirected to List of Pokémon? Useight (talk) 02:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
New image of Pikachu
As you can see, I have uploaded a new picture: Pikachu.svg. It is derived from a CDR image, which can be found here. The converting and cropping hasn't done it much good however. I've contacted Tkgd2007 about this, and if he can't help, I'll contact someone else. The original PNG file can still be found here. Cheers, Face 19:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- I requested improvement of this picture at the graphic lab, see here. If you are able to improve this image, please do! - Face 21:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Snapshots
Please consider adding this gallery as a list of relevant photos about Pikachu RyanTMulligan (talk) 16:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
About the hatnote
Is "Pikachu" that confusable with any "Picacho"? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- A person could be looking for Picacho, and simply misspell it. I think the distinguish template is needed. Artichokertalk 02:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Ketchup and Ice-cream
We need to mention Pikachu's love for ketchup and ice-cream. Both of which are seen in the anime. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PikachuSnowman (talk • contribs) 04:56, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I don't remember that; granted I only watched from seasons 1-3. Artichoker[talk] 14:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I can't recall the ice cream either; I only recall the ketchup thing happening once, in the season 1 episode "Showdown in Dark City". MelicansMatkin (talk) 19:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- It also likes apples; one even got stuck in its throat in "A Chansey Operation" (ep. 47). Cheers, Face 20:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Good remembering, Face; I'd forgotten all about that one. But the addition of these three things begs the question; are they really necessary? It just seems kind of trivial to me. MelicansMatkin (talk) 21:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- It also likes apples; one even got stuck in its throat in "A Chansey Operation" (ep. 47). Cheers, Face 20:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I can't recall the ice cream either; I only recall the ketchup thing happening once, in the season 1 episode "Showdown in Dark City". MelicansMatkin (talk) 19:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Pikachu's love for ketchup is also shown in the Johto story arc, as Pikachu can be seen with a bottle of it while Ash and company are eating. Also, Pikachu is shown eating ice-cream in the episode in which the Clefairy build a spaceship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PikachuSnowman (talk • contribs) 05:34, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Are they true? Yes. Are they trivial and/or irrelevant to understanding what a Pikachu is? Also yes. Ergo, do we add them? Nein. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 18:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
They are not trivial details. As shown in many episodes, the physical appearance of Pokemon can be affected by the foods they eat. Ketchup may be an important part of keeping Pikachu's cheeks red! Also, ice-cream may be important in cooling down a Pikachu. Electricity is very hot!PikachuSnowman (talk) 06:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- However, unless you have some reliable third-party sources, that would be original research. Useight (talk) 05:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
It is established that food can alter appearances, so we can let readers decide if these parts of a Pikachu's diet are affecting its color.PikachuSnowman (talk) 06:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the facts remain trivial because the diet thing only applies in a third of Pokémon's metaseries (Remember, the franchise is divided into manga, animé, and video game; all three have separate canons). What is true in the anime is sometimes not true in the other two (the same applies to the manga and the video games - for example, the video games state that Team Rocket was disbanded during the timeline of Gold/Silver/Crystal, but Team Rocket is still alive in the anime).-Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 07:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- In the video games, Pokemon can have differing appearances (Shiny Pokemon, East-West Sea Shellos... etc.). Also, all Pokemon of a species are not identical in the manga as well.PikachuSnowman (talk) 07:46, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- True, but diet is generally not the cause of it in the video games (as I've noticed a Shiny Geodude in the same area as mundane Geodudes), and the East-West thing is explained in game as a form of literal evolution. And, as I said, What is true in one isn't true in the rest (while all Pokémon have generally the same look in the games, the anime and manga have variances between members of the same specie. It still does not mean diet plays into it). -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 09:04, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Users should be given the full story of the domesticated Pikachu's diet, so that they can draw their own conclusions about differences in Pokemon appearances. Stop reversing my edit! It is essential information!PikachuSnowman (talk) 00:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia isn't a purveyor of original research, and what you're suggesting is just that. And, as you keep ignoring, the diet issue isn't universal in the miniseries. Come back with a better argument, please; the ones you have are weak and/or indefensible. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 03:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, I am not. I am just reporting the facts, so that users may draw their own conclusions. The fact is that I have seen a domesticated Pikachu enjoying ketchup and ice-cream. We can let the users decide what this information means. Also, since we have not seen any Pikachu reject these items (in any media) we cannot assume that these Pikachu dislike ketchup and ice-cream.PikachuSnowman (talk) 03:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- That is because, again, only the anime actually shows Pikachu eating ketchup and/or ice cream. And as you describe it, it's original research because it's not confirmed throughout the whole metaseries and are shown only as one-off incidents. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 03:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Lets assume that Ash's domesticated Pikachu is a fan of ketchup and ice cream. Even with this assumption there are three problems with including this information in this article:
- Just because Ash's Pikachu shows an affinity for certain foods does not mean that every single domesticated Pikachu with have the same likes. If you could find more domesticated Pikachu which enjoyed those foods as well then you may have an argument, however i do not think that information exists.
- The fact stated has absolutely no notability in the real world or the Pokemon universe. Wikipedia does not exist to provide such specific facts as the one you have added. You need to prove that this fact has notability in this article.
- You have provided no reference for your fact. Without a reference your information cannot be verified.
- I hope this matter can be resolved swiftly and efficiently, a dispute like this could hurt the article itself.
- I will solve all three points. First, I will put the fact in the "In the anime" section. Second, this has notability because Pokemon tastes are taken into account when Pokéblocks and Poffins are made. Also, during the anime, the color red is very important as Pikachu is attracted to apples, which landed him in a sticky situation and Scyther and Electabuzz both go beserk after seeing the color. The overall theme of Ash's Pikachu being more human than other Pokemon is also well represented, with Pikachu being able to do human-like things such as lick an ice-cream cone, drink a small beverage (and use the garbage can), communicate with Ash through signing, and not staying in his Pokeball. Lastly, Pikachu's affinity for ketchup is shown in Episode 42, Showdown at Dark City, and Pikachu's affinity for ice-cream is shown in Episode 62, Clefairy Tales.PikachuSnowman (talk) 07:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Issue 1: Only ASH'S Chu shows such an affinity. None of the other Chu do, meaning these are one-off jokes, and you never mentioned color before (though, again, the whole color thing is a one-off joke that doesn't come into play again). Second, neither ice cream nor ketchup are included in the games, making your Pokéblock (candy) and Poffin (bread) arguments DOA (and Pokémon go for taste, not looks, in the game based on their natures). Third, Pikachu doesn't stay in a Pokéball because he hates being confined (Remember that Pikachu points that out in the second episode of the anime). Fouth, the fact that each were used in one ÜND PRECISELY VON episode means that, by definition, they are one-off jokes. The fact of the matter remains that these facts are needless miscellany and thus can't be included in the article. As I said before, please come up with arguments that can't be blown out of the water. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 07:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- To PikachuSnowman: I must admit you have some good points, and that you know a hell of a lot of Pokémon, more than I do. But seriously dude, just let it drop. Cheers, Face 07:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Issue 1: Only ASH'S Chu shows such an affinity. None of the other Chu do, meaning these are one-off jokes, and you never mentioned color before (though, again, the whole color thing is a one-off joke that doesn't come into play again). Second, neither ice cream nor ketchup are included in the games, making your Pokéblock (candy) and Poffin (bread) arguments DOA (and Pokémon go for taste, not looks, in the game based on their natures). Third, Pikachu doesn't stay in a Pokéball because he hates being confined (Remember that Pikachu points that out in the second episode of the anime). Fouth, the fact that each were used in one ÜND PRECISELY VON episode means that, by definition, they are one-off jokes. The fact of the matter remains that these facts are needless miscellany and thus can't be included in the article. As I said before, please come up with arguments that can't be blown out of the water. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 07:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- I will solve all three points. First, I will put the fact in the "In the anime" section. Second, this has notability because Pokemon tastes are taken into account when Pokéblocks and Poffins are made. Also, during the anime, the color red is very important as Pikachu is attracted to apples, which landed him in a sticky situation and Scyther and Electabuzz both go beserk after seeing the color. The overall theme of Ash's Pikachu being more human than other Pokemon is also well represented, with Pikachu being able to do human-like things such as lick an ice-cream cone, drink a small beverage (and use the garbage can), communicate with Ash through signing, and not staying in his Pokeball. Lastly, Pikachu's affinity for ketchup is shown in Episode 42, Showdown at Dark City, and Pikachu's affinity for ice-cream is shown in Episode 62, Clefairy Tales.PikachuSnowman (talk) 07:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Lets assume that Ash's domesticated Pikachu is a fan of ketchup and ice cream. Even with this assumption there are three problems with including this information in this article:
- That is because, again, only the anime actually shows Pikachu eating ketchup and/or ice cream. And as you describe it, it's original research because it's not confirmed throughout the whole metaseries and are shown only as one-off incidents. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 03:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, I am not. I am just reporting the facts, so that users may draw their own conclusions. The fact is that I have seen a domesticated Pikachu enjoying ketchup and ice-cream. We can let the users decide what this information means. Also, since we have not seen any Pikachu reject these items (in any media) we cannot assume that these Pikachu dislike ketchup and ice-cream.PikachuSnowman (talk) 03:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia isn't a purveyor of original research, and what you're suggesting is just that. And, as you keep ignoring, the diet issue isn't universal in the miniseries. Come back with a better argument, please; the ones you have are weak and/or indefensible. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 03:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Users should be given the full story of the domesticated Pikachu's diet, so that they can draw their own conclusions about differences in Pokemon appearances. Stop reversing my edit! It is essential information!PikachuSnowman (talk) 00:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- True, but diet is generally not the cause of it in the video games (as I've noticed a Shiny Geodude in the same area as mundane Geodudes), and the East-West thing is explained in game as a form of literal evolution. And, as I said, What is true in one isn't true in the rest (while all Pokémon have generally the same look in the games, the anime and manga have variances between members of the same specie. It still does not mean diet plays into it). -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 09:04, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- In the video games, Pokemon can have differing appearances (Shiny Pokemon, East-West Sea Shellos... etc.). Also, all Pokemon of a species are not identical in the manga as well.PikachuSnowman (talk) 07:46, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I find this discussion very funny. That sentence has been in and out the Pikachu article for months; who would've thought an edit war would surface. To PikachuSnowman - if you want to cite that information, find the episode that mentioned it and use {{cite episode}}. --haha169 (talk) 18:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- I already cited the episodes. It was episode 42 for the ketchup and episode 62 for the ice-cream. I have not responded for a while because I know that there is another epsiode that shows Pikachu eating ketchup, I just need to find its name or number. PikachuSnowman (talk) 18:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- And then? - Face 20:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Add the content! PikachuSnowman (talk) 20:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Even though 5 users disagree with it because it only tells something about Ash' Pikachu, and is not significant enough? - Face 21:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, even if you had the cites the info would still be too trivial to use in the article because only one Chu has shown such an affinity - Ash's. Your other arguments in support of allowing it do not hold water, and even if they did, consensus is that the information is too trivial for inclusion. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 21:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- There is an entire paragraph and more dedicated to Ash's Pikachu!PikachuSnowman (talk) 22:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- And? Just because Ash's Chu shows an affinity for something does not mean EVERY Chu will hold the same likes. Kuro ♪ 22:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Kuro's correct. As I've been saying, Wikipedia is not a collection of minutiae. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 23:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- You missed my point, everyone was against me because this fact might only apply to Ash's Pikachu and not all Pikachu. However, there is much information on the Pikachu page that only applies to Ash's Pikachu, thus my fact would be in good company.PikachuSnowman (talk) 04:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, you're the one missing the point. From WP:NOT#IINFO, and I quote (emphasis added):
- You missed my point, everyone was against me because this fact might only apply to Ash's Pikachu and not all Pikachu. However, there is much information on the Pikachu page that only applies to Ash's Pikachu, thus my fact would be in good company.PikachuSnowman (talk) 04:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Kuro's correct. As I've been saying, Wikipedia is not a collection of minutiae. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 23:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- And? Just because Ash's Chu shows an affinity for something does not mean EVERY Chu will hold the same likes. Kuro ♪ 22:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- There is an entire paragraph and more dedicated to Ash's Pikachu!PikachuSnowman (talk) 22:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, even if you had the cites the info would still be too trivial to use in the article because only one Chu has shown such an affinity - Ash's. Your other arguments in support of allowing it do not hold water, and even if they did, consensus is that the information is too trivial for inclusion. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 21:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Even though 5 users disagree with it because it only tells something about Ash' Pikachu, and is not significant enough? - Face 21:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Add the content! PikachuSnowman (talk) 20:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- And then? - Face 20:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia treats fiction in an encyclopedic manner; discussing the reception, impact and significance of notable works. A concise plot summary is appropriate as part of the larger coverage of a fictional work. See also Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction).
- This means that extraneous minutiae that rarely, if ever, come up in a work and do not play a significant rule can be excised per Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. What you're campaigning for, unfortunately, is extraneous minutiae. Ergo it will not be added. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 05:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- This point is quite notable, and I know Pikachu is seen eating ketchup in more than one episode.PikachuSnowman (talk) 06:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- This means that extraneous minutiae that rarely, if ever, come up in a work and do not play a significant rule can be excised per Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. What you're campaigning for, unfortunately, is extraneous minutiae. Ergo it will not be added. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 05:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- (RI) Notability only applies to articles. IINFO applies to stuff like this, and so far, it fails IINFO (and would certainly fail WP:N). -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 06:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Reverted Vandalism
I reverted the vandalism of the picture back to normal. Sorry if I'm not supposed to be saying it here, since I'm new to this. 71.178.183.174 (talk) 22:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- Oh that's no problem at all. Thank you very much for catching and reverting it! People don't normally mention reverted vandalism on the talk page, but I'm glad that you let us know about it. Cheers, MelicansMatkin (talk) 23:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Pikachu deserves more than one Sentence on SSB
I believe that Pikachu deserves more than one sentence on Super Smash Bros. Let me give examples of how SSB is covered in other articles:
- Fox McCloud: 3 paragraphs
- Mario and Luigi: 1 paragraph each
- Lucas (who has only been in Brawl): 1 long paragraph
- Link: 1 long paragraph
I had a three-sentence squib (no longer than any other desciption of any other character), and then somebody decided to go to an edit war to stop me, and accused me not knowing what Wikipedia is (despite the fact that I have made almost 1000 edits), of turning Wikipedia into something called a "Wikia" and dumping loads of gamecraft in. I would say that precedent is on my side, considering the wide volume of media on SSB in other Wikipedia articles, and I'll probably revert his edit when a favorable consensus is reached. Here's what it'll look like:
Pikachu has also appeared in Super Smash Bros.,Super Smash Bros. Melee, and Super Smash Bros. Brawl as a playable character. His skill set is similar to that of the video games, focusing on electrical attacks. Pichu appears in Melee.
Compare with Luigi:
In every game of the Super Smash Bros. series, Luigi is an unlockable character. An alternate form of Luigi, Metal Luigi, appears in the Adventure Mode of Super Smash Bros. Melee. In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, can use a "negative zone" to attack enemies, which is composed of dark energy formed as a result of spending his life in his brother's shadow.
So yeah, no more gamecrufty than any other article. Except for the edit warlock, is everybody OK with this? Purplebackpack89 (talk) 03:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- I don't want to drag on a side-dispute irrelvant to the overall discussion but I will say this: User:Kung Fu Man has made far more than 1000 edits, and in any case the number of edits a user makes has no bearing on their knowledge of Wikipedia. You say that you'll just rveert his edits tomorrow afternoon? If you really knew the most important and core Wikipedia policies (as you seem to claim), you would know that Attempts to circumvent the three-revert rule, such as making a fourth revert just after 24 hours, are strongly discouraged and may trigger the need for remedies, such as an editing block on one's account (from WP:Reverting, which paraphrases WP:3RR; a section you have already been pointed to).
- Now, lets not have any more accusations or assumptions of bad faith and just discuss the issue at hand instead. Sound good? MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 03:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- Changed to "when a favorable consensus is reached" Purplebackpack89 (talk) 04:01, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- To explain it a little better, every article you cited is not of Good quality or higher: if they were, the details would be more reigned in. Tackling both issues:
- Pichu's presence really has no impact on Pikachu as a character. It was just Pichu present in the game.
- The gameplay details are unnecessary and violate WP:GAMEGUIDE. Consider the article for a casual reader, and consider that it's already been discussed earlier in the article how Pikachu discharges electrical energy. Adding more info adds nothing to the subject.
- I get that you're trying to do good here, but Wikipedia is for encyclopedic articles of subjects, including fictional characters that just happen to be in a game series you apparently like a lot. And that means treating the subject for someone that isn't a gamer, and may know nothing about Pikachu, Pokemon, video games, or so forth at all.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 04:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that the discussion of Fox's helmet and belt is excessive, but I do not agree that adding a paragraph on the very popular SSB is excessive (If I was alone on that point, then all that stuff you call "gamecruft" would have been gone ages ago), nor do I agree that adding two sentences about what Pikachu does makes it a game guide (which, I would point out, is mentioned only fleetingly). If you want game guide, go to [2]--it has two paragraphs on EACH of Pikachu's attacks. Why are so concerned that adding two sentences will completely foul up the article? P.S.: Stop batting around that I'm unencyclopedic. There is tons of trivia in a real encyclopedia Purplebackpack89 (talk) 05:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- Because the point of these articles is to take them to good article and featured article status, not just to add more info. And it wouldn't matter if it was one, two, or three more sentences - if they're not under the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia and not towards what's required of taking the article to GA and FA status, then that is counterproductive (i.e. "fouling up the article" as you put it) and they go. It has nothing to do with you personally. Likewise the fact that stuff exists elsewhere has little bearing on how material is intended to exist on Wikipedia. Trivia is considered unencyclopedic here, as is gameguide material. And if the SSB is indeed very popular and important to Pikachu, then you shouldn't have a problem finding notable and relibale sources on that fact to back up the addition you want. If you do, I don't think you'll have a problem achieving consensus. Right now though, you do not have consensus. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 05:18, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that the discussion of Fox's helmet and belt is excessive, but I do not agree that adding a paragraph on the very popular SSB is excessive (If I was alone on that point, then all that stuff you call "gamecruft" would have been gone ages ago), nor do I agree that adding two sentences about what Pikachu does makes it a game guide (which, I would point out, is mentioned only fleetingly). If you want game guide, go to [2]--it has two paragraphs on EACH of Pikachu's attacks. Why are so concerned that adding two sentences will completely foul up the article? P.S.: Stop batting around that I'm unencyclopedic. There is tons of trivia in a real encyclopedia Purplebackpack89 (talk) 05:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- So your complaint is no sources more than anything? I would point out that there was much more "gamecruft" in the article the last time it was named good article. I think for it to be a good article, it needs to have good descriptions of everything. Quick search...Pikachu Super Smash Bros turns up 324,000 hits. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 05:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- No, that was simply one of several issues I and others mentioned above. Once again, the fact that gamecruft seeps in to the article is a perfect example as to why everyone is vigilant to such edits. Likewise, for an article to be named a good article, it needs to go through peer review - which it did, and who felt whatever you're thinking was gamecruft at the time was not. Likewise, standards evolve and become more complete over time, which is why even articles previously at GA status are rewritten and resubmitted after time. And just because you feel adding such material makes a good article, does not mean it falls under Wikipedia policy and guidelines as to what makes good content, nor the consensus of what makes good content. Likewise, a google hits search is not considered a valid reference or statement of notability. Again, you've given nothing except continued circular reasoning the same "well it exists here" arguments. And I see you doing that time and again in all your continued debates, along with the usual WP:SOAPBOX commentary about being picked on, people stalking your or "stand with me", and your continued automatic reverts of other people's reverts of your non-consensus changes. If this continues, it's going to send up a big flag for being a disrutive editor. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 05:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm throwing in the towel on this one, to please you. Why the heck have you been reading my other edits? They are completely ungermaine. Every edit I have ever made I have done with the confidence that it is making Wikipedia better (just on a few of them, some people disagree). "Continued and automatic" cannot be used to discribe my edits. You can DE if you want. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 13:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- To explain it a little better, every article you cited is not of Good quality or higher: if they were, the details would be more reigned in. Tackling both issues:
- Changed to "when a favorable consensus is reached" Purplebackpack89 (talk) 04:01, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- The Pikachu in Super Smash Bros. has been a reasonably decent character to play as in most games. Its attacks are mainly composed of electrical and normal attacks in all games. In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, its Final Smash is a release of its electricity. There is lore that the Brawl Pikachu was the Melee Pichu.GoogleplexPlus (talk) 02:23, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Parody appearance
Do the editors of this article think that the appearance of the clearly derivative "Peekaboo" character in the Young Justice: Sins of Youth storyline would merit mention in the "In popular culture" section or not? In that instance, I believe there was a 50-foot tall version rampaging through town who most of the characters had to take on shortly before the finale. John Carter (talk) 17:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
- I never heard of that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleplexPlus (talk • contribs) 02:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
deeper vandalism
I was comparing older versions of Pikachu, and there's some vandal text in there: "Pikachu are on average 1' 4" tall and are very playful creatures." For those who are watching this page (not me), please root it out and make sure nothing was lost. Cheers, tedder (talk) 03:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- I reverted that when the editor put it on, but another editor reinstated it for whatever reason. I think it's more of a badly-written good-faith edit than an attempt to vandalize. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 03:15, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- I undid some of the vandalism you pointed out. I think most of it gets in because someone makes a vandal edit, then someone makes a normal edit, so we dont see the vandal edit on our watchlists. Most of the time I try and look at history though. Blake (Talk·Edits) 03:21, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Category suggestions
- Fictional characters who can move at superhuman speeds
- Comments? - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think so. He is quick, but I don't think it's quick enough to be "superhuman". I think "superhuman speed" would be more applicable to Superman, Flash, and Sonic the Hedgehog, fictional characters known specifically for their speed. Useight (talk) 18:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know if I would describe Superman, FLash, and Sonic the Hedgehog as what superhuman speed should be described as - they certainly are the definition of it, but I think some characters, while much slower, are considerably faster than the average human, hence, superhuman. Though, seeing as how many real animals run at >60MPH at times, I could see why Pikachu might not qualify, though I was thinking his electricity affiliation could change it. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:39, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Pikachu varies a lot from Sonic, the Flash, and Superdick, however, in that he's not truly sapient (the rest are). -Jéské (v^_^v Bodging WP edit by edit) 19:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- The only way Pikachu moves extremely fast is through quick attack. That shouldn't count as its regular speed. On a side note, Pokemon are sentient. Dude1818 (talk) 20:04, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- Pikachu varies a lot from Sonic, the Flash, and Superdick, however, in that he's not truly sapient (the rest are). -Jéské (v^_^v Bodging WP edit by edit) 19:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know if I would describe Superman, FLash, and Sonic the Hedgehog as what superhuman speed should be described as - they certainly are the definition of it, but I think some characters, while much slower, are considerably faster than the average human, hence, superhuman. Though, seeing as how many real animals run at >60MPH at times, I could see why Pikachu might not qualify, though I was thinking his electricity affiliation could change it. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:39, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think so. He is quick, but I don't think it's quick enough to be "superhuman". I think "superhuman speed" would be more applicable to Superman, Flash, and Sonic the Hedgehog, fictional characters known specifically for their speed. Useight (talk) 18:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Mammal?!
Yeah, there's no way that (1) pikachu is a mammal, and (2) is of "high" importance as a mammal. Triptenator (talk) 20:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'd agree that Pikachu wouldn't be of high-importance to the Mammal wikiproject, whoever, Pikachu is a mouse Pokémon, and mice are mammals. Useight (talk) 23:12, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ovipositioning mammals are not impossible, besides. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 05:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- It can be "high" importance as a mammal on the wikiproject, since I doubt kids care more about platypuses than Pikachu.
However, its listing as GA is invalid. I've removed it.Pikachu is voiced by Jessica DiCicco.
- It can be "high" importance as a mammal on the wikiproject, since I doubt kids care more about platypuses than Pikachu.
- Ovipositioning mammals are not impossible, besides. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 05:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Just wondering- how can you make such an extensive page about Pikachu and not mention that the creature is directly and obviously based on a real animal, both in name and appearance? Pikas are real. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pika Surely that's worth a note or link. 64.230.111.214 (talk) 13:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
While pikachu has a name similar i doubt it is based on a pika due to the fact that it its name is Japanese. Pika is an American name, although there is no doubt that Pikachu is a mammal due to the fact that it has fur, a requirement for any being to be a mammal. - ([[user:mdnovelli]mdnovelli])
- As far as I can remember, Pikachu has never been compared to a Pika, and was only stated to be a mouse-type Pokémon. If you can find a source stating that Pikachu was based on a Pika, then please present it and we can add that to the article. Artichoker[talk] 14:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- The same issue was dealt with both here and on Talk:Pika; the end result was that the comparison was inherently original research (as is any other Pokémon comparison). I will note that the relevant discussion is still up on Talk:Pika. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 19:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- My bad. My comment above was mistaken with Meowth. --haha169 (talk) 04:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- The same issue was dealt with both here and on Talk:Pika; the end result was that the comparison was inherently original research (as is any other Pokémon comparison). I will note that the relevant discussion is still up on Talk:Pika. -Jéské (v^_^v Mrrph-mph!) 19:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I was just thinking, the artical states that the red cercals on pikachu contain electrick sacks, but I beleive they are referanced as being electrick sacks them selves.--Pika17 (talk) 00:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah... I'm not entirely sure how to put that the best way. The Pokédex from Stadium 1 states: "It stores electricity in its cheeks" FireRed, however, says: "It has small electric sacs on both its cheeks." And Emerald says: "It stores electricity in the electric bags on its cheeks." - Face 08:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
I think the principle should be to go for the most authentic source, which means the canonical pokedexes. Then we should use latest pokedex in case of any inconsistency. In any case, the pokedex from stadium is not inconsistent since electricity in the sacs in the cheeks is still electricity in the cheeks. Yili2943 (talk) 05:21, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- FireRed's and Stadium's are both translations of the same Japanese. Stadium's Pokédex contains half of the entries from Japanese Red&Green and half of the entries from Japanese Blue. Pikachu's happens to be taken from Japanese Red&Green. But English Red&Blue both use the Pokédex (as well as other features) from Japanese Blue. When FireRed and LeafGreen were released, LeafGreen was found to have entries from Japanese Blue (and so, English Red&Blue), and FireRed was found to have entries from Japanese Red&Green (which were previously untranslated fully), but this time with a new translation. In that way I'd think FireRed's sort of over-rides Stadium's entry for Pikachu; it's found in a main game of the series, and is a newer translation compared to the entry of English Stadium. Akata (talk) 00:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
The name Pikachu comes from the Japanese word for mouse, "pika," and the Japanese word for the sound a mouse makes, "chu." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dude1818 (talk • contribs) 20:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Talk archiving
This page is enormous. For the sake of everyone's sanity, I was considering archiving the talk page. Per WP:AATP, a consensus should be established first. The reason to do this archiving seems obvious: This pages is full of lengthy, dead discussions. It would be better for promoting future discussions to have one of the bots archive this page every few months, or at least make the first archive by hand now. So, let's leave the discussion open for a few days: Is there any good reason, based on Wikipedia guidelines and precedents, not to do this? (I'm only proposing to archive very old ones, say those above "GA removal") TheBilly (talk) 23:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I support an archive, but archive everything up to the end of October 2007 to leave only the most recent comments on the page. MelicansMatkin (talk) 00:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. There's no reason not to, and if nothing else, there's a snowball's chance that there'd be a reason not to archive the page here. --Cheeser1 (talk) 01:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- Definite Archive. And quickly, too. This page is enormous. --haha169 (talk) 05:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Archived. MelicansMatkin (talk) 15:39, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Definite Archive. And quickly, too. This page is enormous. --haha169 (talk) 05:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
It's been another 2 years, should we archive again? Dude1818 (talk) 20:19, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Concept/creation
Here's a question I have that should be addressed: was Pikachu selected from the beginning as the flagship Pokemon, or did it evolve that way after the anime gained popularity? I seem to remember Pikachu being heavily featured in merchandise early on, but the first video games don't particularly highlight it. Brutannica (talk) 22:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Actually I seem to remember reading somewhere that some other Pokémon (I think it was Clefairy) was initially the mascot in the very beginning, until Pikachu continued to gain popularity and was picked to star in the anime. Unfortunately, I forgot exactly what I was reading. Artichoker[talk] 23:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps you mean the Pocket Monsters manga where Clefairy is a main character?—Loveはドコ? (talk • contribs) 23:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Nope, it had nothing to do with the Manga. I just remember reading somewhere about the origin of Pikachu, and it mentioned that initially a different Pokémon was the franchise's mascot. Artichoker[talk] 23:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I once heard that the other mascot from the beginning was actually Jigglypuff. I guess Pikachu was chosen (no pun intended) over Jigglypuff in the end. Useight (talk) 05:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- It could have been Jigglypuff. I get the two pink fluffballs mixed up from time to time. Artichoker[talk] 14:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I once heard that the other mascot from the beginning was actually Jigglypuff. I guess Pikachu was chosen (no pun intended) over Jigglypuff in the end. Useight (talk) 05:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Nope, it had nothing to do with the Manga. I just remember reading somewhere about the origin of Pikachu, and it mentioned that initially a different Pokémon was the franchise's mascot. Artichoker[talk] 23:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps you mean the Pocket Monsters manga where Clefairy is a main character?—Loveはドコ? (talk • contribs) 23:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
That question has been answered through a cited statement in the article. :) --haha169 (talk) 00:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Speaking of that, apparently the Diamond/Pearl director was talking about Pikachu's name being chosen for appeal... surely he wasn't involved in it back then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 23:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Why doesn't Pikachu evolve?
Could a knowledgeable editor add to the article why Ash's Pikachu never evolves? Comet Tuttle (talk) 17:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
- From what I remember, it never wanted to, It went so far as to knock a thunder stone out of Ash's hand after a difficult battle. I can't remember the name of the episode, but I know it was one of the early ones... DarkNightWolf (T|C|M) 14:44, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- Working on the basics, will need references, as I haven't seen the episode for years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NightwolfAA2k5/Pikachu DarkNightWolf (T|C|M) 09:03, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- It was the one with Lt. Surge and his Raichu. dude1818 (talk) 23:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
- Just reference the episode.<ref name="Electric Shock Showdown">{{cite episode| title = Electric Shock Showdown | series = [[Pokémon (anime)|Pokémon]] | credits = Atsuhiro Tomioka (writer) | network = Various | airdate = September 25, 1998 | season = [[List of Pokémon: Indigo League episodes|Indigo League]]|number = 14}}</ref> Blake (Talk·Edits) 04:28, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- It was the one with Lt. Surge and his Raichu. dude1818 (talk) 23:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
- Working on the basics, will need references, as I haven't seen the episode for years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NightwolfAA2k5/Pikachu DarkNightWolf (T|C|M) 09:03, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Magnetism Silliness
How come "the presence of a strong magnetic field, causes an illness with flu-like symptoms" but also "Pikachu tend to gather in areas with high amounts of thunderstorm activity"? I'm not arguing that this is not accurate infromation from the francise, but I am arguing from basic physics. Electricity and magnetism are strogly bonded - you cannot have one without the other. Thunderstorms have a megnetic field and magnetic fields affect electrical ones. Either Pikachi should be equally attacted by both or made ill by both, this is GCSE level physics! Kennifred (talk) 15:00, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
- It is saying that if electricity is built up, a Pikachu can get sick. Magnetism might suppress Pikachu's ability to let it's electricity flow. Blake (Talk·Edits) 16:07, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
- Some real animals have an effect like this. (Not using electricity, of course!) They are attracted to it up to a point, then become ill or repulsed if there is too much. Like dogs and chocolate, or people for that matter. Dude1818 (talk) 20:07, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Just because they get sick from it doesn't mean they don't tend to do it anyway... 99.225.16.250 (talk) 19:49, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
is vs are
I am not a Pokèmon master but it seems odd to see Pikachu being referred to as both is and are. Any ideas? Kushal (talk) 11:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- I believe "is" is used when it refers to a single, specific Pikachu and "are" is used when it refers to the species. Useight (talk) 14:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- One Pikachu, two Pikachu, red Pikachu, blue Pikachu. Same applies to any other Pokémon species. -Jeremy (v^_^v Cardmaker) 23:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- To clarify; Ash's Pikachu is one of his first Pokémon. Pikachu are found in multiple places. Its like saying "My cat is a wonderful pet" and "Cats are a wonderful pet". "Is" refers to a single thing. "Are" refers to the whole species. --Blake (talk) 02:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
- As someone that came here knowing only a little bit about "Pokémon", I REALLY think this article would be greatly improved by an edit making clear distinction between the character called "Pikachu" and the fictional Pokémon 'species'[?] also called "Pikachu". Separate articles might be overkill though (esp. given the overlap/fictional nature) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.17.174 (talk) 12:22, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Level 99
Is it safe to assume Pikachu is level 99? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Utils (talk • contribs) 03:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- No, not really. There has to be proof that it is level 99 in the TV shows. Try finding a reference for what the actual level it is first. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 03:47, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- In the TV shows, levels are not mentioned. If his Pikachu was level 99, then Ash would be a pretty incompetent trainer, considering Pikachu still loses fights. Although, in Crystal, Red's Pikachu was level 81. bibliomaniac15 04:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't Pikachu's level increase as you played the game instead of having a set level? Useight (talk) 04:34, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, in Pokemon, they do mention "levels" as when saying "look, this pokemon leveled up!". This was really only mentioned in the later seasons. -- RyRy (talk) 04:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and what bibliomaniac was saying is that a character had a pikachu. Since it is the computer playing that character, Red (funny name), it is a set level. -- RyRy (talk) 04:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, it was owned by a non-playable character. I always thought Red was a playable character (I believe the Pokémon Trainer in Super Smash Bros Brawl was designed after Red). I'm really not familiar with Pokémon after the original 151, in my mind it's still Ash, Misty, and Brock being chased by Team Rocket. Useight (talk) 05:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, no. The Pokemon character in Super Smash Bros Brawl was not based on Red in the Crystal, Silver, and Gold versions of pokemon video games. It was based on the male playable character of the Pokemon Fire Red and Pokemon Leaf Green versions of Pokemon video games. Oh, and it's actually Ash, Brock, and Dawn being chased by Team Rocket now. :D Hehe, I can't believe how much I still know about Pokemon even if I'm not much of a fan anymore, I'm a bit too old for Pokemon. ^_^ -- RyRy (talk) 05:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, yeah, the male character in Pokémon Fire Red does look like Brawl's Pokémon Trainer. But, according to the article, the character's name is Red. "A bit too old for Pokémon"? Just because you grow old, doesn't mean you have to grow up. Or said differently, you don't stop having fun when you get old, you get old when you stop having fun. Useight (talk) 05:37, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I guess. Then consider me a Pokemon fan again! :) And I didn't see it said that in the article. -- RyRy (talk) 06:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, yeah, the male character in Pokémon Fire Red does look like Brawl's Pokémon Trainer. But, according to the article, the character's name is Red. "A bit too old for Pokémon"? Just because you grow old, doesn't mean you have to grow up. Or said differently, you don't stop having fun when you get old, you get old when you stop having fun. Useight (talk) 05:37, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, no. The Pokemon character in Super Smash Bros Brawl was not based on Red in the Crystal, Silver, and Gold versions of pokemon video games. It was based on the male playable character of the Pokemon Fire Red and Pokemon Leaf Green versions of Pokemon video games. Oh, and it's actually Ash, Brock, and Dawn being chased by Team Rocket now. :D Hehe, I can't believe how much I still know about Pokemon even if I'm not much of a fan anymore, I'm a bit too old for Pokemon. ^_^ -- RyRy (talk) 05:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, it was owned by a non-playable character. I always thought Red was a playable character (I believe the Pokémon Trainer in Super Smash Bros Brawl was designed after Red). I'm really not familiar with Pokémon after the original 151, in my mind it's still Ash, Misty, and Brock being chased by Team Rocket. Useight (talk) 05:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and what bibliomaniac was saying is that a character had a pikachu. Since it is the computer playing that character, Red (funny name), it is a set level. -- RyRy (talk) 04:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- In the TV shows, levels are not mentioned. If his Pikachu was level 99, then Ash would be a pretty incompetent trainer, considering Pikachu still loses fights. Although, in Crystal, Red's Pikachu was level 81. bibliomaniac15 04:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Just to clear everything up, Red is the playable character in Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow, FireRed, and LeafGreen. He is the NPC (the one battled at the very end) in Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal. He is also the Pokémon Trainer in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Also the battle mechanics in the Pokémon anime are vastly different from those in the games, so saying Pikachu is level 99 would most likely be incorrect, as well as nonnotable. Artichoker[talk] 14:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- You know, I find it kind of funny that all of you guys are having a forum discussion over a topic brought up by someone who had to rely on a bot to leave a sig! --haha169 (talk) 04:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- You can't be older than nine. NO WAY should the fact that I forgot to sign my own comment have any baring on this clearly thought provoking topic. You're pulling at straws, man. You take Wikipedia WAY too seriously.Utils (talk) 10:38, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think his level is over 9000. Jabberwockgee (talk) 19:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- You can't be older than nine. NO WAY should the fact that I forgot to sign my own comment have any baring on this clearly thought provoking topic. You're pulling at straws, man. You take Wikipedia WAY too seriously.Utils (talk) 10:38, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
In the games, your starter is level 5. So when Ash got Pikachu, it was probably level 5 as well, and has been leveling up since then. Dude1818 (talk) 20:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
If Ash's Pikachu was level 99, the highest level in Pokemon would be level 9,900. Voxhit (talk) 02:50, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Pikachu cannot be found in the wild in Black/White and Black/White 2
The video games section that mentions that Pikachu is found naturally in the wild in every game needs to be modified with that bit of info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.217.201.98 (talk) 17:25, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- How about after you beat the Champion and gain the National Pokedex? Cobalion. Setting Justice everywhere. (talk) 18:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- Nope, even then you can't catch it.--90.203.211.188 (talk) 11:23, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
Mascot?
The article is semi-protected so I cannot edit it as a hobby Wikipedia user and not as an editor, but the intro paragraph lists Pikachu and...Charizard? as the official mascots of Pokemon. While Charizard was the mascot of Red Version, it is not the franchise representative by any stretch and should be removed from that part of the description. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.69.223.128 (talk) 13:28, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, I removed it. You should consider creating an account! Blake (Talk·Edits) 14:45, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I recently just changed it to "major character" as he is more renowned than most Pokemon, but I don't think "mascot" is suitable unless for a certain version of Pokemon game. ShawntheGod (talk) 07:04, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
2014 mascot
I'm not sure if this is worthy of inclusion, but I've found that Pikachu is being chosen for the Mascot of Japan's team for the 2014 Fifa World Cup as seen here.
2.223.97.5 (talk) 03:04, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
- Done, thanks! Supernerd11 :D Firemind ^_^ Pokedex 19:32, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Citation Removal
I would suggest removing citation 56 because there aren't any reasons written on why they hate Pikachu. It's just Pikachu "sucks" for no reason and that "Hello Kitty would kick his butt." Not very explanatory, is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.14.222.121 (talk) 14:33, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, the source doesn't state very many reasons for its disdain of Pikachu. Does anybody know if AskMen is a reliable source? Bananasoldier (talk) 18:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
- No. The AskMen reference also has false information in their article and Wikipedia contradicts it. I suggest we should remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.140.217.169 (talk) 20:42, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Category:Fictional monsters
Why was Pikachu removed from the fictional monsters category? Pikachu is clearly a monster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.175.50.102 (talk) 05:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Only if you take the name of the franchise as gospel. A category of fictional rodents is a better fit. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 05:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- But officaly they are, "monsters" in thje defitnition of one that kills by cuteness and annoying sounds; and being god in pokemon form...--Jakezing (talk) 13:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Pikachu has never killed anything. Pokémon never die, only faint. Artichoker[talk] 15:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- wHICH MAKES LITTLE SENCE ANYWAYS, BUT SO DOES THE IDEA OF A CREATURE THAT YOU NEARLY KILL, AND THEN TRAP IN A SMALL BALL WOULD WANT TO NOT KILL YOU AFTER THAT, AND PIKACHU IS A GOD, HE NEVER LOSES, AND WHEN HE DOES, HE TAKES 5 MINUTES, AND THNE COMES BACK AND KICKS THE OPPONETS ASS,wtf, why was caps on. srry.--Jakezing (talk) 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- This is not a forum to discuss the merits of Pokémon or how Pikachu is undefeated in the anime. This talk page should only be used to discuss improvements to the article. Thanks. Useight (talk) 17:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe it should be in both rodents and monsters? Obviously it's a monster (Pokémon is Pocket Monsters) but yeah, it is also a mouse. If it can't be put in multiple categories, I would say that it should be put in fictional monsters. Just think it would make it more organized for every Pokémon to be there. Also, Pokémon do die in the manga and obviously at least die by humans or old age or something (Pokémon Tower). Awesomeyveltal (talk) 19:57, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- This is not a forum to discuss the merits of Pokémon or how Pikachu is undefeated in the anime. This talk page should only be used to discuss improvements to the article. Thanks. Useight (talk) 17:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- wHICH MAKES LITTLE SENCE ANYWAYS, BUT SO DOES THE IDEA OF A CREATURE THAT YOU NEARLY KILL, AND THEN TRAP IN A SMALL BALL WOULD WANT TO NOT KILL YOU AFTER THAT, AND PIKACHU IS A GOD, HE NEVER LOSES, AND WHEN HE DOES, HE TAKES 5 MINUTES, AND THNE COMES BACK AND KICKS THE OPPONETS ASS,wtf, why was caps on. srry.--Jakezing (talk) 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Pikachu has never killed anything. Pokémon never die, only faint. Artichoker[talk] 15:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- But officaly they are, "monsters" in thje defitnition of one that kills by cuteness and annoying sounds; and being god in pokemon form...--Jakezing (talk) 13:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Pikachu
I love Pikachu! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.145.27.99 (talk) 04:43, 6 February 2012 (UTC) what was the point of saying that? 24.187.191.151 (talk) 00:49, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't mean to be bitey but Talk Pages aren't for general chat. Cobalion. Setting Justice everywhere. (talk) 19:10, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hard to choose who's side to be on.--Greenycric (talk) 21:03, 14 June 2015 (UTC)Greenycric
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Append the following to Pikachu's appearances in video games:
"Pikachu appears as a playable fighter in Pokkén Tournament, along with "Pikachu Libre", a female Pikachu dressed as a luchador.[6][7]" 136.181.195.25 (talk) 16:32, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
References
- ^ See footnote
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- ^ http://www.destructoid.com/pikachu-suicune-and-gardevoir-announced-for-pokk-n-tournament-286573.phtml
- ^ http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/08/21/pokken-tournament-to-be-released-on-wii-u-next-year/
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Super Pokemon Rumble, Pokemon Shuffle and Pokemon Rumble World
Shouldn't the article mention that it appears on the 3DS home menu icons of all of these games, and that it is the starter of Pokemon Rumble World (first Toy Pokemon used by the player, played as until the player obtains a Torchick in the King's Training Field), and this one is usable until released (or rather, returned to the King, as it stands next to his throne after being released). An anonymous editor, 12:07, 19 October 2015 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.178.138.227 (talk)
eksuese me?
is i new to Wikipedai, i speaks english both spanish too, am want vandilize know who pika article? is not he going get done himself by? Me thinks too before he is vandal again! Plaese! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.237.71.208 (talk) 20:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- For stuff link this, see WP:RFPP. -Jéské (v^_^v Kacheek!) 18:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
PIKACHOO Iz A CATT — Preceding unsigned comment added by WaffleBoss252 (talk • contribs) 18:10, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
WP:GA/R
I'm taking this article to WP:GA/R because 1. No notice was given on the talk page when it was speedied and 2. Because this article does have a "cultural impact" section, detailing the relevance of the subject to real life. Homestarmy (talk) 15:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- I have relisted it. Geometry guy 19:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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[3]Wiki Pika Link
Speaking of Cultural Impact, I was under the impression that the creature was derived from the real life Pika, in the above posted link.
That's what I was under the impression of, too. 99.225.16.250 (talk) 19:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
PIKACAT IS|S LOVE, PICAT IS LYFE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WaffleBoss252 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
pikachu is not base on pika.
Category:Fictional pikas
The creator(atsuko nishida) insists that a hamster is an origin of inspiration. 220.96.0.190 (talk) 15:33, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- I've read through the "Concept and design" section and saw no reference to the Pika. As such, I removed Category:Fictional pikas under WP:V since there is no reliable source establishing a connection between the two. Because this was the only article in the category, I've nominated the category for deletion now that it is empty. —Farix (t | c) 16:10, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Pikachu (sculpture)
I invite editors to help with the expansion of the Pikachu (sculpture) article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:26, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
Another voice actor for Pikachu
Since I realized the page is locked, I would like to say that Alyson Leigh Rosenfeld voiced Pikachu in the anime Gates to Infinity. You might want to add it there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.104.131 (talk) 23:07, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
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Pikachu
Pikachu can be found in Kanto and Kalos. It is an electric type. It is the mouse Pokemon. It's pre-evolved form is Pichu and its evolved form is Raichu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hey You, Get the Hell Out of Here (talk • contribs) 19:07, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
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Pikachu is number 37 in the kanto pokedex Bradensulli4 (talk) 21:33, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
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“The” Detective Pikachu
There is only one Detective Pikachu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.104.2.247 (talk) 01:31, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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This line "the idea of the name came from a mouselike animal called pika" should be removed. It's completely unsourced (there is a source linked, but it does not mention the animal pika at all). There is no official confirmation of this information. Haneden (talk) 16:34, 25 December 2019 (UTC)