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Read this Signpost in full · Single-page · Unsubscribe · EdwardsBot (talk) 13:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC) The Wikipedia Signpost: 7 December 2009 From the editors: 250th issue of the Signpost Editorial: A digital restoration Election report: ArbCom election in full swing Interview: Interview with David G. Post News and notes: Wikipedia's death report premature, fundraiser, usability, new CSD, noms, and more In the news: Ron Livingston sues vandal, disclosure of IP address ordered, brief headlines Discussion report: Discussion Reports and Miscellaneous Articulations Features and admins: Approved this week Arbitration report: The Report on Lengthy Litigation Technology report: Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News Read this Signpost in full · Single-page · Unsubscribe · EdwardsBot (talk) 05:22, 9 December 2009 (UTC) Some weird CSD tags Hiya; just ran across a couple of weird CSD taggings of alleged sock userpages that you had originally tagged ([1][2]). Since it was kind of weird that the alleged puppeteer was the one doing the CSD tags, I thought I'd toss it your way in case you have a better background of the situation. Cheers =) --slakr\ talk / 19:10, 13 December 2009 (UTC) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of YouTube celebrities (4th nomination) Since you participated in the third AFD, I am letting you know about the 4th AFD. Ikip (talk) 21:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC) The Wikipedia Signpost: 14 December 2009 Election report: Voting closes in the Arbitration Committee Elections News and notes: Mapping geotagged articles language, import sources enabled, and more Discussion report: Discussion Reports and Miscellaneous Articulations Features and admins: Approved this week Arbitration report: The Report on Lengthy Litigation Technology report: Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News Read this Signpost in full · Single-page · Unsubscribe · EdwardsBot (talk) 15:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC) Dragon Con I was wondering why my recent changes to the Dragon*Con page were removed? As it HAS been covered on a significant source, The Consumerist, it means that this was an unjustified removal. The Consumerist is in fact, a reliable and significant news source. Maybe you can clarify this some more for me? PheobusKilathos (talk) 20:46, 20 December 2009 (UTC) In general, blogs aren't considered reliable sources, though since this one seems to come from Consumer Reports (am I reading that right?), it might be an exception to that. But your cited Consumerist source does not exist, and I couldn't find it by searching the archive myself, either. In addition to that, I'm not convinced that this is of encyclopedic importance- unless there's more to it than you wrote, it doesn't seem to be significant to the history or importance of Dragon Con. I could, however, be wrong, and please feel free to get consensus at Talk:Dragon Con that it ought to be in there after all. There are (I am sure) lots of people watching that article who know far more about it than I do. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:53, 20 December 2009 (UTC) [3] is the full URL. It seems to be my fault for failing to get the correct short URL from the website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PheobusKilathos (talk • contribs) 20:57, 20 December 2009 (UTC) Ah! Thanks very much for the corrected link. I'm afraid I still don't think that's an event important enough to warrant inclusion in an encyclopedia article- at an event the size of Dragon Con, this seems to me like a fairly minor disagreement, rather like adding to the article on McDonalds that they somehow CANNOT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT I HATE PICKLES... sorry, digression, that's totally my own issue. But, like I said, I could be wrong- if the consensus on the talk page agrees with you after discussion, then in it goes. I'm not the Boss of Wikipedia, just a fellow editor disagreeing with you, and that happens all the time around here and is half the fun. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:01, 20 December 2009 (UTC) Oh, its totally understandable. I hate mustard, so we seem to be in the same boat with McDonalds on that one. However, I will attempt to get consensus from the users on the TalkPage for Dragon*Con. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PheobusKilathos (talk • contribs) 21:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC) Welcome back Tim Song (talk) 23:21, 20 December 2009 (UTC) Thank you. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:22, 20 December 2009 (UTC) FisherQueen, when I was a new user and didn't know how Wikipedia worked I made various mistakes (who didn't?) and you were very helpful in putting me on the right lines. That was several years ago now, but I am still grateful. Actually come to think of it "still" is the wrong word: at the time I was not grateful, because I didn't understand what you were doing and thought you were being obstructive, but as time went on I came to understand, and remembering your comments contributed to my developing grasp of how Wikipedia functions. Because of this I thought the prospect of your leaving Wikipedia, and more especially of leaving new-user patrolling, was a bad one. Well, "welcome back" is really all that I am saying, but I though you might like to know I have my own reasons for saying it. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:00, 21 December 2009 (UTC) Oh, I knew I'd probably be back. I was just far too pissed off to enjoy the job while that bunch was doing... whatever they thought they were doing. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC) Yes. I was one of their "victims". Actually, while I too am rather critical of what they did, I don't think they were anything like as bad as you evidently think. Maybe some time I will spend the time writing up my thoughts, and if so maybe you would be interested in reading them. Or maybe you wouldn't. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:15, 21 December 2009 (UTC) Thanks ...for the reminder. Been a bad few days so I should have just closed the laptop! Best wishes for the festive season, take care, The Rambling Man (talk) 17:12, 22 December 2009 (UTC) Pshaw, we're on vacation anyway. If you want to amuse yourself toying with the troll, you're welcome to; I've done it before, when it entertained me. No skin off my nose. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:15, 22 December 2009 (UTC) Nah, you're right, I should have packed him in long ago. Thanks anyway! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:18, 22 December 2009 (UTC) Updates to Grupo Modelo Hi, I wish to understand what's wrong with my last update... The reverted information about Grupo Modelo is wrong: there are not any Cisneros nor gomez in Grupo Modelo's history. Thats the only change I made in the last update, in fact, I've maked some reference to other wiki article to bring a reliable source, as you can find in the article of María Asunción Arambuluzabala (Grand daughter of Felix aramburuzabala, one of Grupo Modelo's founders) I understand that Wikipedia is not intended to promote our brands but I think that is really important ensure that the information is accurate and true. If you know the reliable source of that information about Cisneros and Gómez, please tell me how to find it in order to make the corrections. Greetings from Grupo Modelo México —Preceding unsigned comment added by DCI 2010 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 22 December 2009 (UTC) Thank you for the answer... I must accept that i work at Grupo Modelo but I'm not res I just correct wrong information without change anything else won't create an Conflict of interests. It is like if I said that wikipedia was created in 1980 by Napoleon... If i find that information in wiki, I'll think that it's real but it isn't... In this case we find the same situation... --DCI 2010 (talk) 21:47, 22 December 2009 (UTC) I just changed that "Alonso Gomez and Federico Cisneros" founded this Group... because the correct information is that it was founded by Pablo Diez and Felix Aramburuzabala... Is it possible to kept that change? --> Grupo Modelo, was founded in 1925 by a group of businessmen, including Don Pablo Díez Fernández — who became the company's President, CEO and major stockholder — and Felix Aramburuzabala. thank you --DCI 2010 (talk) 20:55, 22 December 2009 (UTC) A different Wikipedia article isn't a reference; if you have accurate information, that's great, and all you need to do is include a reliable source of that information- like a newspaper article, or a book about the company's history. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:17, 22 December 2009 (UTC) That's perfect, I will take note of it to make those changes. May I use the corporate website as a reliable source or articles written in spanish? Thank you!! Articles written in Spanish are fine, if English sources are not available. The corporate website can be used, but an independent source is preferred. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC) The Wikipedia Signpost: 21 December 2009 Election report: ArbCom election result announced News and notes: Fundraiser update, milestones and more In the news: Accusation of bias, misreported death, and more Discussion report: Discussion Reports and Miscellaneous Articulations Features and admins: Approved this week Read this Signpost in full · Single-page · Unsubscribe · EdwardsBot (talk) 02:54, 23 December 2009 (UTC) Merry Christmas Click there to open your card! → → → Dear FisherQueen, Wishing you, your family, and friends a very merry Christmas (or whatever you celebrate at this time of year), and I hope that the new year will be a good one, in real life, and on the wiki. There is always a reason to spread the holiday spirit; it's a special time of year of almost everyone. ;) Love and best wishes, Meaghan - Merry Christmas! - 00:25, 24 December 2009 (UTC) Merry Christmas!! Merry Christmas! Once again it is festive season, a time where festive decorations are displayed and gifts are swapped; but what about the true meaning of christmas? The true meaning of christmas is about the fight for freedom and how in times of hardship and misery, one person leads their people to freedom as a great warrior; for those who fight for a cause are warriors and those who fight for a worthy cause are great warriors. Such an act earns respect and honour; but most importantly, brings happiness to their people. So to achieve this as happiness lies in other people's happiness and greatness lies in how you deal with little people, we selflessly think of others in the hope that they will be happy this christmas. Hi FisherQueen, have a very Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year 2010!  Set Sail For The Seven Seas    Set Sail For The Seven Seas  349° 24' 45" NET   23:17, 24 December 2009 (UTC) Abuse Hey loser dont delete my page about Steve Souva. he is my friend and i love him very much and i did some stuff with him last night and you deleted my page so your not cool. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Woodchuck1992 (talk • contribs) Please put your abuse on the bottom of my talk page, rather than in the middle of another user's comment, and sign by using four tildes. Thank you. I hope that in the future you'll refrain from creating articles about non-notable people. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:20, 27 December 2009 (UTC) I sometimes find it hard to believe that people actually write stuff like this. Don't they reread their comment and realize how childish it sounds? "loser", "your [sic] not cool"... —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 07:30, 28 December 2009 (UTC) Well... in general, they're children, so they don't have any context from which to say, "Oh, this sounds childish." -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 14:15, 28 December 2009 (UTC) Welcome back Yet more new page patrols wonderful....User:Irritatedbunny Hell In A Bucket (talk) 16:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC) Deleted and blocked. And I didn't even look at her web site, so her attempt to raise her hits didn't work. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:24, 28 December 2009 (UTC) I'm Back Hello fisherqueen, it's me anole hahaha! I want peace though, seriously. Please do not block me because now I am 17. I was 15 back then and immature. My parents found out and grounded me for two weeks for offensive comments they saw me writing. I have learned.--Nerdybirdy23 (talk) 17:20, 28 December 2009 (UTC) A person can become a great deal more useful in two years; I don't mind your returning now if you're making useful edits now. To be honest, I don't remember your other account, anyway, except that I don't think it's User:Anole. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC) Yes, I was banned indefinitely from that user account and my user page and discusion page deleted. I don't mind, though, because I want to forget my past. --Nerdybirdy23 (talk) 17:32, 28 December 2009 (UTC) Well, welcome to the older, wiser Nerdybirdy23. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:37, 28 December 2009 (UTC) Thank you. I think everyone deserves a second chance after punishment.--Nerdybirdy23 (talk) 17:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC) Wait, whats this? Oh, no. I am being accused of a crime and don't know what to do. Can anyone help me. This is the case page Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nerdybirdy23 --Nerdybirdy23 (talk) 17:44, 28 December 2009 (UTC) You've done what you can do- made a response. Don't worry too much about it; in a while, a checkuser will review the request and either check your ip address or decide not to. Until then, just, you know, don't replace anyone's user page with a giant penis or anything. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:46, 28 December 2009 (UTC) Well, I have to agree no big peter's on the wiki pages.....Hell In A Bucket (talk) 17:48, 28 December 2009 (UTC) Hahaha---Nerdybirdy23 (talk) 17:59, 28 December 2009 (UTC) H2O Audio Hello there! You just recently deleted my article on H2O Audio, claiming that it doesn't meet the requirements for notability...however I beg to differ. H2O Audio are the only ones who make a dive case so I can now watch movies at decompression stops while diving, nobody else makes a case with controls that goes beyond more than 10-15 ft. Therefore, I consider this notable. Also, in doing research I found that they'd also pioneered the technology of using a hardware wheel that can conduct the electricity from your body (in this case your finger) and pass it to a touch sensitive control, therefore making ipod scroll wheels work underwater...I find that both encyclopedic and notable, and found verification for it...may I ask why you deleted the article? And what can I change to keep it from being deleted in the future so this technical information can be available to other water sports enthusiasts? Thank you for your time. DanaS (talk) 23:24, 28 December 2009 (UTC)DanaS I deleted your article because I thought it was about a subject that didn't meet the notability criteria, but I'm open to the possibility that I was wrong. If you'll provide me with links to three articles that confirm this subject's notability, in newspapers, magazines, or significant online sources, I'd be happy to undelete the article, and I'll even add the sources to it so no one else will mistake it for an inappropriate article. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:25, 28 December 2009 (UTC) Ohh, I have seen so many in print, and I thought I'd sited quite a few on-line references that I thought did prove notability, but I guess I missed the mark a bit...I'll search around the web some more and see if I can come up with a few more. Thank you for your help! DanaS (talk) 22:04, 30 December 2009 (UTC)DanaS The sources you cited were not the right kind of sources- a company profile, a patent, a Facebook page... you want articles and books written about the company in things like published magazines, journals, books, and so forth independent of the company. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:06, 30 December 2009 (UTC) How do these sources work? Getting closer? http://www.macworld.com/product/ipod/898/detail.html (many other articles about H2O Audio on this site) http://mycampustalk.com/hot-gear-h2o-audio/ http://gizmodo.com/5336186/h2os-idive300-case-review-an-iphone-deep-beneath-the-briny-sea (also many others on this site) DanaS (talk) 22:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC)Dana Much better! Reviews from sources like those are just what was called for- I've restored the article with those added, so that you can keep working on it. I apologize for mistaking this for a non-notable company. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC) Question I have a silly question that I think I know the answer:Can you have friends on wikipedia? I don't think so because this is not a social networking site. But still, I would have like to friend you fisherqueen, because you helped me so much and gave me another chance. You even defended me on a case against me. I want to have you as a friend, but not to annoy you, to ask of your wisdom. I this isn't embarrassing, it is not meant to be. From your humble apprentice, --Nerdybirdy23 (talk) 16:50, 29 December 2009 (UTC) There's no feature to 'friend' people on Wikipedia, but lots of people have friendly social connections in an informal way, by adding other users to their watchlist. Please feel free to add my talk page to your watchlist, and ask me any questions you have. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:31, 29 December 2009 (UTC) I know this sounds stupid, but how do you add user talks to your watchlist? I am sorry for being such a newbie.--Nerdybirdy23 (talk) 01:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)Wait i found out, nevermind--Nerdybirdy23 (talk) 01:50, 30 December 2009 (UTC) There are no stupid questions, only stupid people. No, that's not right, let me try again. There are stupid questions, but it is better to ask them than to remain silent and remain stupid. No, that isn't it either. How about... it's okay to be a n00b, for a while. At the top of each page, among several tabs, is a tab that says 'watch.' Click it to watch any page. Along the top of every page is 'my watchlist.' Click that, and you can see all recent changes to the pages you're watching. Some people only watch a few pages; some use 'my preferences' to automatically watch every page they edit. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 02:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC) The Wikipedia Signpost: 28 December 2009 News and notes: Flagged revisions petitions, image donations, brief news In the news: Criticism from climate change sceptic, decade in review Discussion report: Discussion Reports and Miscellaneous Articulations Features and admins: Approved this week Read this Signpost in full · Single-page · Unsubscribe · EdwardsBot (talk) 02:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC) Post-It notes/ Sticky notes article You're perfectly correct, a redirect does make more sense. What I was attempting was to npov "Post-It Notes" away from being about post-it brand notes, and transfer the article to "Sticky notes", the generic term. However, my redirect was misidentified by ClueBot as vandalism due to the large amount of material being moved (or deleted, as in cluebot's eyes)79.97.166.36 (talk) 01:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC) Yes, once I had a closer look I realized that you weren't vandalizing; if you prefer the redirects to go in the other direction, that's fine too; this isn't an area in which I have much knowledge. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 03:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)