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Another Talk Page Protection Request
Could you please protect my Talk Page again. Many of Iniced's Sockpuppets are bothering me. — FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 07:28, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- FilmandTVFan28 -
Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:33, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Aviation progres in 1930-ies; invasion of Poland
PLease consider undo in the correction You have hade. If You don't have proffesional knowlage about aviation or history it may seem to You that 5 or 10 years is very long period of time. However - in reality it was not and all historians, especially military historians say that.
When it comes to polish aviation in 1920-ies please reade more at least about that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zygmunt_Pu%C5%82awski
I strongly encourage You also to read more about military aviation statistics from 1920-ies...
Best regards... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.220.43.218 (talk) 15:45, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Please accept my apologies for the delay responding to your message here. After giving your edits another review, I went ahead and restored the other content you previously added minus the last edit you made here, here you inject commentary and opinion by calling the military invasion "enormous" and state that "it's [sic] result was that airplanes built a few years earlier on the eve of the war turned out to be outdated". This isn't supported by any references, and seems to reflect your thoughts. This is why I reverted this edit. Please see Wikipedia's policy on writing article content that reflects a neutral point of view. If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks for the message, and I appreciate your time and your understanding. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:45, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
City of Norwich School
I was the former Headteacher of this school and historian of Norwich Local Education Authority. I have more authority over you on the matter of the school so I'd greatly appreciate it if you wouldn't revert my edits.
Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JosephStalinator (talk • contribs) 18:28, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) @JosephStalinator: Personal knowledge is not verifiable, either by an editor or one of our readers and therefore not a citable source, even if you're an expert. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:33, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- As an academic you will understand that one must always cite one's sources. Personal recollections aren't usable on Wikipedia, we insist on published sources that can be verified. Acroterion (talk) 18:34, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Never mind, I see this edit [1], which supports the indefinite vandalism block placed by another editor. Acroterion (talk) 18:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hi JosephStalinator - This is not how Wikipedia works. No users or editors have any kind of ownership or authority over other users to edit content or participate in the project. Your change did not cite any reliable sources. As a former headteacher and historian as you claim, you should know about the importance of citing references when you write content. You're instead adding original research to the article, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. This is another concept that I'd expect a headteacher to understand when it comes to writing content for an encyclopedia. Please remember that neutrality and verifiability are important on Wikipedia, and the rules that you'd apply in the classroom regarding the need to cite references apply here just the same. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for understanding :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:38, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Whelp, like Acroterion said above (lol) - I'm not surprised with how this turned out... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:39, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
My user page was deleted
Hi Oshwah,
I created a user page for myself a few days ago, and you deleted it. I have used Wikipedia for a long time now, but I haven't made any contributions to any Wikipedia pages yet. So, I thought it would be cool to start contributing to some pages. I have read the Misuse of Wikipedia as a web host page that you linked, and I now have a better understanding of the purpose of a user page. Could I recreate my user page again? I'm confident that I can now create a user page that would help to make collaboration between myself and other Wikipedians easier.
Page that was removed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LukeAlSaba
LukeAlSaba (talk) 18:42, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi LukeAlSaba! Sure, go for it! :-) Thanks for taking the time to review this policy and understand what is and is not allowed on user pages. If you have any questions or need my input or assistance, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to help you. Thanks again for understanding and for being a positive role model for the community. I hope you have a great rest of your day and I wish you happy editing. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:47, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) In particular, you probably should not include any external links. That's the biggest thing that makes me agree with the original deletion. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:49, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Help
Can you see User_talk:Beeblebrox#rfpp - FlightTime (open channel) 20:41, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- FlightTime - I applied a block to the IP range, which should hopefully stop the disruption. Please let me know if the shenanigans continue from another network, and I'll be happy to take care of it. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:50, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) That will definitely work :) thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 20:51, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- You bet. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:09, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) That will definitely work :) thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 20:51, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Received and replied. Thank you! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:36, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
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For your tireless work handling a bevy of time sensitive oversight requests, I am pleased to present you the Oversighter's Barnstar! Congratulations, Mifter (talk) 22:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC) |
I was going to give this to you last night after everything but while you would think this project has an award for everything, it turns out we did not have a barnstar for Oversighters. Fortunately, that problem is now fixed and I am pleased to present you the inaugural Oversighter's Barnstar! Mifter (talk) 22:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Mifter! Thank you for not only taking the time to leave me this barnstar and the very kind words, but for actually taking the time to introduce a new barnstar in order to give me one. :-) It's funny, because I was looking though the barnstar giftshop not too long ago to find one to give to someone else, and I also noticed that no oversighter's barnstar existed; probably because we obviously can't go into any details publicly about what we're awarding them for, so nobody bothered to make one. Hahaha... it would be pretty bad if I gave you one with a beautiful comment such as, "Thank for suppressing that content on ANI at 6 AM UTC that gave out this editor's real name of Dory and home address of 32 wallaby way Sydney!! Great job!!" I'm happy to say, though, that I know our Oversighters here are much smarter than that. ;-) Thanks again for creating the new barnstar and for making me the first recipient. I appreciate it a lot :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:55, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Question
Dude... I asked for 90 days and you gave me less than 3? I wasn't sure I'd get the full ninety, but I wasn't expecting the term to be that light. Can you take another look? Thanks - wolf 23:58, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Thewolfchild - Sure, I can take another look. I'm finishing up a few tasks on my to-do list; I'll get those finished up and will look again right afterwards. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:22, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Thewolfchild - I apologize for the delay following up with you here. I just took another look, and it seems that the disruption has stopped for the most part. If it continues or picks up to a pace where protection is needed again, file another report at WP:RFPP or let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. My apologies again - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:31, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Sporting Clube de Portugal page edits
Hi, you blocked me for undoing changes to the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporting_CP#Porto_vs_Sporting page as "circunventing block". You kind of jumped the gun on that, I'm currently on Japan on holiday, so my ip was legit. SLBedit is affiliated to our rival club and have been suspended for this kind of activity in the past. They are citing opinion columns and newspapers that have no credit and passing that as facts. In fact, if I used the same newspaper as source, I could say that slbenfica currently has no manager, as per those newspapers it was a done deal. There has never been an alliance between our club and FCPorto, and all official sources state that. It even says that on one of the articles listed as source. Please remove those edits as they are slander and a narrative pushed by Slbenfica PR — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.253.251.170 (talk) 03:41, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! I'm not sure what block you're referring to exactly, but I protected the Sporting Clube de Portugal article from editing by non-confirmed users (I think that this is what you're referring to when you said that you were "blocked") due to ongoing vandalism and disruptive editing. Since the protection expired, disruptive edits continued and it had to be semi-protected again by Dlohcierekim just a few days later. It wasn't to stop you from editing, it was to stop the disruption by all users involved. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message and I wish you a safe holiday in Japan. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:25, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi Oshwah. Thanks for protecting Michael Oliver. I was wondering if it was worth setting indefinite pending changes (or having them at least until he retires from refereeing). So far his log shows nine semi protections and one pending protection since 2012 with an obvious trend of the article becoming more vandalised (2 in 2016, 3 in 2017 and 4 currently this year). It is a BLP and the only major addition since Jan 2017 (over 500 edits ago) is the last paragraph[2], which was added by a registered user [3]. Most edits are from fans complaining about a game and it ranges from extremely nasty to subtly changing places of birth. Some of the American Football referees have had indefinite pending changes protection for a while (see Walt Anderson (American football) for an example, but there are at least a dozen with this protection). I watch all referee articles and these ones in my opinion seem to be less vandalised. The Oliver page has less than 30 watchers[4] so is a good candidate for pending changes. Regards AIRcorn (talk) 07:01, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Aircorn! Please accept my apologies for the delay responding to your message here. I was busy with real life stuff and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages, emails, mentions, etc. :-) I typically try to protect articles with the appropriate protection level and duration necessary in order to stop the disruption and allow other editors to modify the article. I felt at the time that the duration was long enough to encourage those who I felt were disrupting the article to move on. For example: If an article is randomly and suddenly being hit very hard with an extreme level of immature or typical vandalism, I typically only apply semi-protection to the article for 3-6 hours. This is because that kind of vandalism is normally being done by students at schools. That duration of protection in this situation usually always puts a stop to the disruption and it doesn't immediately continue after it expires. However, if disruption did continue, I would have no problem protecting it again and slapping a longer duration. I just try to start with a shorter duration than most people think is necessary first, then expand it gradually if it doesn't stop. It looks like the disruption on Michael Oliver isn't present at this time. However, if that changes, please don't hesitate to file a report at WP:RFPP or let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. I definitely do try to take a look back at the long-term history of each article to see if a long-term protection level is needed; however, at the time of this writing - we don't need to do anything right now. However, as you point out, that will probably change. ;-) Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message and for raising your concerns; I appreciate it very much. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:36, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- No need to apologise for the late reply. I am just as bad (if not worse) and appreciate that real life takes precedent over what we do here. For clarification, I have been talking to a few editors regarding applying pending changes to referee articles (User talk:Bishonen#Angus Gardner and User talk:Zzyzx11#Protection of referee articles. Following those discussions I decided it was best to try it on a case-by-case basis. Since then I have requested protection for two other articles[5][6] with one being semi protected for three months[7] and the other being granted the pending changes protection[8]. You beat me to this article, so I thought I would make my case here. I know you do a lot of work at RPP (I am sure I have made similar requests before) and that is very much appreciated by me. I just feel that given the editing history at this page it is exactly the kind of article pending changes was designed for. Either way I thank you for your response and accept your position. I am sure we will interact over protection again. AIRcorn (talk) 22:55, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Aircorn - You're welcome. I appreciate your messages, replies, and your honest input and feedback here. My talk page is always open to you, and you're welcome here any time you need or want to discuss something. I'll be more than happy to help in any way that I can. Thanks again, and I wish you a great rest of your weekend and happy editing! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:54, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- No need to apologise for the late reply. I am just as bad (if not worse) and appreciate that real life takes precedent over what we do here. For clarification, I have been talking to a few editors regarding applying pending changes to referee articles (User talk:Bishonen#Angus Gardner and User talk:Zzyzx11#Protection of referee articles. Following those discussions I decided it was best to try it on a case-by-case basis. Since then I have requested protection for two other articles[5][6] with one being semi protected for three months[7] and the other being granted the pending changes protection[8]. You beat me to this article, so I thought I would make my case here. I know you do a lot of work at RPP (I am sure I have made similar requests before) and that is very much appreciated by me. I just feel that given the editing history at this page it is exactly the kind of article pending changes was designed for. Either way I thank you for your response and accept your position. I am sure we will interact over protection again. AIRcorn (talk) 22:55, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Your Change in My Edit
Since you have changed my edit merely as a matter of your opinion I wish you to know that I will never contribute to Wikipedia so long as arbitrary editors like you are in charge. I request that you cease all of your postings to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.253.34 (talk) 16:35, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hello anonymous editor. With this edit you changed the word precious to precocious. However, this was actually sourced to here where the word used is in fact, 'precious'. Your edit was incorrect and was thus reverted. Please check things more carefully in future and please do not criticise experienced editors without justification. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (
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). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 17:20, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Reverted edit on Diode
I did put a message in the edit summary to this effect but to elaborate: As an electrical engineer, I have never heard of any device called a "Perun's diode", and searching it online turns up nothing but the exact text in wikipedia, copied across a few other wikis. As such, I am unsure whether it even exists, let alone whether it's notable. The way it's described sounds like it may even be a brand name for some sort of high-performance DIAC. And to top it all off, the section is written in a very non-encyclopedic tone. 104.167.148.149 (talk) 17:13, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your explanation of your edit and your concerns. The reason I reverted your edit was because it also made a change to a template that I didn't think was intentional (see the diff here). I went ahead and went back to the article and removed the entry in question for you, as it is not referenced by a reliable source. I apologize if my revert to your edit on the article didn't thoroughly explain the reason why I did so. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message and for the explanation, and I wish you happy editing. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:40, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you; I hadn't realized that I'd messed up another part of the page. You're right, that was accidental, and I'm really not sure how it happened. 104.167.148.149 (talk) 01:31, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- No worries; mistakes happen and they're expected - it's not a big deal. :-) You're welcome! Let me know if I can answer any questions or help you with anything, and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you; I hadn't realized that I'd messed up another part of the page. You're right, that was accidental, and I'm really not sure how it happened. 104.167.148.149 (talk) 01:31, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Weird account happenings
- Ryan76mom
- SteveGTea2 Check out the new comment on the user page, seems weird posting that now after 9 years.
I have noticed in the last, oh, probably week I've been seeing old accounts suddenly start editing, like the two here. There were more. I could probably dig them up, but it might take awhile. It seems weird considering the hacked Admin accounts of late, so I thought I'd poke you. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 00:17, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- FlightTime (open channel) 23:43, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi FlightTime - Thanks for the message regarding your concerns here. Yeah... the recent compromises have been quite unsettling, but it looks like this is mostly inactive admins with weka passwords that were successfully targeted and compromised. Are there any similarities between these accounts and their edits? So far, I'm not seeing any... This could be a coincidence, bearing in mind that Wikipedia has millions of registered accounts (not including active users). Let me know when you can and I'll be happy to take a deeper look. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:46, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
"kirsch" edit
Dear Oshwah - I don't agree with your assessment that my edit on the page for "kirsch" constitutes vandalism. I included a reference to the novel by Thomas Pynchon in which kirsch is mentioned. This reference is easy to find, as it appears on the first page of the first chapter in the book. I think my edit is valid, as it is a mention of kirsch in pop culture, the heading under which I submitted my edit. I think that if you toss out my edit it will detract from the list of pop culture references to kirsch. Not a very Earth-shaking problem, I know. But I object to your calling it "vandalism" when it was a sincere effort to improve a Wikipedia page, however slightly. Sincere regards - Tom Furgas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.53.241 (talk) 03:56, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns regarding your recent edit. You're absolutely correct; your edit was not vandalism and it was not correct for me to refer to it as such. I have removed the warning I left on your user talk page - please accept my apologies. If you don't mind, can you locate a reliable source regarding the content you wish to add and cite it in-line with the edit you wish to make? Once you do this, you should be all set and you shouldn't run into any issues or confusion like what happened here. Please accept my apologies for calling your edit "vandalism"; I just felt that the content should have at least one reference in order to validate its authenticity. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding the guidelines pages I linked you to, and I'll be happy to help you. Thanks for bringing your concerns to my attention and I wish you a great day and happy editing. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:50, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
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- SkyGazer 512 - Received and replied. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:54, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks; I appreciate your taking care of that.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 02:34, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- SkyGazer 512 - You bet; always happy to lend a hand. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:36, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks; I appreciate your taking care of that.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 02:34, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Received and responded. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:54, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Edit on Gala Apple Page
Hi there, I received a message that my edit on the Gala apple page was reverted because I didn't explain why I removed content. But I did -- I said that I "Fixed formatting error in History section," which involved removing an errant tag: "<ref name="NFC" />". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.255.90 (talk) 18:40, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message with your explanation and concerns regarding the edit you made to Gala (apple). I fully acknowledge that you left an edit summary and explained that you were fixing bad formatting from the given section of the article, but your edit removed some of the actual content from that section also. This is what I was referring to specifically when I reverted your edit and stated that you didn't sufficiently explain what you were doing. It looks like the edit that occurred immediately after my revert (here) by EuanTheGreat also removed the same content. However, he/she left an edit summary and explained why the content was removed - the content was a duplicate in the same section. That makes sense, and I now understand the reason why the content was removed. I apologize for the trouble; I was simply confused with the content removal that left an edit summary that only talked about fixing formatting errors. Thanks for the message, and please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any more questions. I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:04, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Copyright photos
Hey how do you exactly upload photos from Flickr. Anyways Thanks A.R.M. 23:13, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Upload/Flickr, ARMcgrath. You must be sure that the photo has an acceptable license. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:19, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
@Cullen328: Thanks I don’t want to do the same mistakes of uploading photos when I first got started here A.R.M. 23:21, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
I have a question for you
How do I create my own Wikipedia user page? (SIADAVIDFURLER (talk) 15:19, 5 December 2018 (UTC))
- (talk page stalker) Hi, SIADAVIDFURLER! To create your own userpage, please read This article. Thanks!--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:02, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Winged Blades of Godric - Received and replied. Thanks! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:39, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Bellezzasolo - Cool deal, man! Thanks for the message and for the update! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:40, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oshwah, please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Bellezzasolo/Scripts/meganuke.js and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Twinkle Meganuke. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 02:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Abelmoschus Esculentus - Thank you for the links. I was wondering why the link in Bellezzasolo's message above was red, but I didn't go through and look into it. Much appreciated... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:48, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oshwah, please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Bellezzasolo/Scripts/meganuke.js and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Twinkle Meganuke. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 02:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Bong Go
Hi Oshwah. I see that you removed some vandalism [9] to Bong Go recently. Any chance you've been looking more closely at the article? A new editor has identified it [10] as problematic, similarly to the articles I listed at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Reviews_needed_of_some_articles_related_to_Rodrigo_Duterte.
For the BLPN discussion, I was just looking at the contributions of Juanelo1931 (talk · contribs), and would prefer to keep a distance from such politically-charged articles, let alone ones that require cultural and language expertise that I don't have.
Any suggestions would be very welcome. --Ronz (talk) 17:15, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Ronz, thanks for the message! Unfortunately, I haven't been keeping any close tabs on this article. I only ran into it while recent changes patrolling and reverting vandalism. However, it seems like you're doing the correct thing by creating a discussion at WP:BLPN and asking for assistance with resolving the concerns. If any disruption continues or if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to help. I hope you have a great weekend and I wish you well and that the discussion comes to a peaceful close and with the necessary actions taken. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:44, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
LGBT rights in Israel
Hi there, I'm an instructor in a college class and one of my students, as part of an assignment, edited the Wikipedia page LGBT rights in Israel. You then reverted their changes, saying they had not used a reliable source. But the student did use a reliable source - Gross, Aeyal, “The Politics of LGBT Rights in Israel”, Columbia Human Rights Law Review vol. 46, no. 2 (Winter 2015): 106-109. The journal is peer reviewed, and Aeyal Gross is a law professor at Tel Aviv University. Also, the student spoke of making this change on the article's talk page a few weeks ago, and got no response that there was anything wrong with the source. Thanks for your consideration! Chapmansh (talk) 21:41, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Chapmansh, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns. I have restored the edit in question given your explanation and your assurance that the source referenced is reliable - I apologize for the removal and the confusion. If you have any more questions and concerns (or if you need my assistance with anything else), please let me know and I'll be happy to help you. Thanks for taking the time to leave this message and let me know, and I also send my apologies to Noah07132013 for the removal. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia entry "Yang yanbao"
It is really an embarrassing mistake for Wikipedia to have this entry with the subject's name wrong - both Chinese and English! 杨廷宝 is a well-known founder and master of early modern Chinese architecture and architectural education in China. This entry got his Chinese name wrong, and consequently, got his "English" name wrong as well; It should be Yang Tingbao. Now by the entry's title "Yang Yanbao", Nobody would even know who this really is referring to! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. MMZ (talk • contribs) 05:19, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Dr. MMZ - If you have any references that support what you're saying here and what you edited here on Yang Yanbao, I recommend that you provide these and add it to the discussion that you started here on the Wikipedia help desk. This will allow other editors to review your sources and (if no issues are found) assist you with making any necessary corrections. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message and I wish you a great weekend. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:22, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
AP request
Hey Oshwah,
Could you give the autopatrolled right to Tintor2? They have made over 25 articles that doesn't violate policy. -- 1989 (talk) 16:53, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- 1989 -
Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:58, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Bohemian Grove reversion today
I just happened to notice on my Watchlist that edit to Bohemian Grove you reverted this morning because it was cited to some crappy bare links to YouTube and Scribd. I did a little digging and that Scribd link is in fact a legit article from Mother Jones (August 1981) which is available on Google Books here. (Of course the Scribd link is a probable COPYVIO so I think the reversion was correct on that basis). I was thinking about putting that material back in with proper citations, and also changing that list of incursions so its chrono order. I wanted to give you a heads up first. Going off to see if I can find proper metadata on that Nightline story now. --Krelnik (talk) 17:10, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Krelnik - Perfect, sounds like a great plan! Thanks for doing some digging and locating the base sources that should be used. Let me know if you have questions or need help, and I'll be happy to lend a hand. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:11, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Edits now complete. I just noticed (DOH) that the newbie editor who did that's username is (almost) the Mother Jones reporters last name backwards. So it was probably a COI edit anyway - I removed the bit about him handing info to ABC, which is not supported by the sources and threw a welcome splash on his talk page. --Krelnik (talk) 17:51, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Krelnik - Heh, yeah I noticed the username earlier (it was reported to UAA by someone else who saw it too). Either way, looks good to me - and thanks again for taking a look and for doing what you can to keep what's encyclopedic and good quality and leave out the rest. All in a day's good work! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:38, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Krelnik - One change I did make to Bohemian Grove after you made your changes to it was to remove this content. Since it details (supposedly illegal) activity performed by living people - one of which is the subject of a BLP article on Wikipedia, it constitutes a BLP violation as being unreferenced and potentially contentious. Until a reliable source is found supporting the information, it should remain removed. Other than that, everything else you did looks good. Thanks again! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, good point on that BLP issue, I didn't create that content I just moved it and put the CN tag on it. Should have rung a bell that CN and BLP don't mix. I'm sure some AJ fan will get angry that he's not mentioned in the section anymore and try to re-add it, but we can deal with that hilarity when it happens. --Krelnik (talk) 19:29, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Krelnik - No worries; I knew that you didn't create it. It's done and gone now. If someone happens to stumble upon it in the history and they cause a huge ruckus over it, we can handle the issue at that time (just as you said). Again, thank you for doing this and I appreciate your great work! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:32, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, good point on that BLP issue, I didn't create that content I just moved it and put the CN tag on it. Should have rung a bell that CN and BLP don't mix. I'm sure some AJ fan will get angry that he's not mentioned in the section anymore and try to re-add it, but we can deal with that hilarity when it happens. --Krelnik (talk) 19:29, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Krelnik - One change I did make to Bohemian Grove after you made your changes to it was to remove this content. Since it details (supposedly illegal) activity performed by living people - one of which is the subject of a BLP article on Wikipedia, it constitutes a BLP violation as being unreferenced and potentially contentious. Until a reliable source is found supporting the information, it should remain removed. Other than that, everything else you did looks good. Thanks again! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Krelnik - Heh, yeah I noticed the username earlier (it was reported to UAA by someone else who saw it too). Either way, looks good to me - and thanks again for taking a look and for doing what you can to keep what's encyclopedic and good quality and leave out the rest. All in a day's good work! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:38, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Edits now complete. I just noticed (DOH) that the newbie editor who did that's username is (almost) the Mother Jones reporters last name backwards. So it was probably a COI edit anyway - I removed the bit about him handing info to ABC, which is not supported by the sources and threw a welcome splash on his talk page. --Krelnik (talk) 17:51, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
i have created my basic information , is it not allowed in wikipedia to write about my self?
Hello Oshwah,
as you have deleted my account, i have just created my account and created only my page,
is it not allowed in Wikipedia to create my own page, i was thinking before start contributing in the content section, I mush have my profile page and that is i created — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrkishorchandrapant (talk • contribs) 20:09, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Addressed on their talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:16, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hi Mrkishorchandrapant, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your questions regarding your user page and what is and is not allowed on them. I'll be happy to answer your questions and clear up any confusion. Your user page was deleted under the U5 and the G11 criteria listed under the criteria for speedy deletion. In a nutshell, user pages need to be primarily focused toward Wikipedia-related purposes. Per Wikipedia's policy on user pages (specifically, this section of that policy), user pages should not have excessive unrelated content nor should it be a place that's treated or built as if it's a "profile page" or a "social networking page" (or otherwise used as a place to host content). Wikipedia's policy here further explains this and is referenced in combination with the other section I linked you to when they're enforced. Your user page contained excessive information about yourself as if you were writing a resume or a profile page, which is not the purpose that it should be used. This is why the page was deleted. If you want to add some brief information about yourself, your interests, what you do, stuff like that - that's completely fine and you're welcome to do so. It just can't be excessive or like a "profile page" just about yourself personally. If you look at the user pages of other editors who have been here for some time, you'll see that they (including mine) contain some information about themselves, but the focus is primarily Wikipedia-related. Please let me know if you have any questions or if you need help with anything, and I'll be happy to answer them or lend a hand. Again, I appreciate you message and I hope I answered it fully. I'm here to help and I'll be more than willing to do so - just let me know. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:22, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Handled; thanks for the email. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
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Nightpedia..js
There is a link to my Nightpedia.Js, but when I click on it nothing happens, do I need to contact MusikAnimal?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:53, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Where exactly are you linking to your Nightpedia.js page? What main .js page are you calling this .js from? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:56, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- User:Thegooduser/Nightpedia.js and the other page you added a link to in one of my java scripts.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:57, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Ah, I see it. I added it to your common.js page here. Let me try moving it to your vector.js page and see what happens... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:58, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Link is now gone, don't have a Nightpedia button.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:01, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Thegooduser - Alright, I moved it to your vector.js file - perform a full refresh and bypass your cache. Does this resolve the problem? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Never mind, it's back, but clicking the button does nothing.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Nope, does not work.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:07, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Okay... I modified your Nightpedia.js file to just call the functions necessary to apply the color changes and styles immediately - no switches or things to click. It should just call them. Refresh and clear your cache - did anything change? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:12, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - I reverted my change and copied the code from the source. Refresh, bypass your cache, and hit the switch. Does it work now? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:16, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Okay... I modified your Nightpedia.js file to just call the functions necessary to apply the color changes and styles immediately - no switches or things to click. It should just call them. Refresh and clear your cache - did anything change? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:12, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Nope, does not work.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:07, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Never mind, it's back, but clicking the button does nothing.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Thegooduser - Alright, I moved it to your vector.js file - perform a full refresh and bypass your cache. Does this resolve the problem? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Link is now gone, don't have a Nightpedia button.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:01, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Ah, I see it. I added it to your common.js page here. Let me try moving it to your vector.js page and see what happens... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:58, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- User:Thegooduser/Nightpedia.js and the other page you added a link to in one of my java scripts.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:57, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes, it works!!!!! Thanks!--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:20, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - No problem! Glad to hear it. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:21, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
You win...
For the past 2 edits I tried to revert with TW, You beat me with HG. LOL--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - HA! Nah, there is no "winning" with recent changes patrolling. Some edits I'll probably revert before you do, and you'll be first to others. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:46, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Query
How can you edit Wikipedia "non-Stop"? --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 23:07, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - What exactly do you mean? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:07, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Your Contributions show that you edit from a certain time period to now, Do you sleep?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 23:10, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Well yeah, I have to sleep, don't I? ;-) I just spend the time I'm willing to in order to volunteer and contribute here. I'll take breaks and step away from Wikipedia for a few days, even a week or two, in order to take care of real life obligations. It's just how my time and schedule works out right now. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:16, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Your Contributions show that you edit from a certain time period to now, Do you sleep?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 23:10, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Say sorry to you
Sorry I track your edits.But I found DPPTPP from this action.What I want to say is that I found from my last few edits that 107.64.X.X (/ 20) IP address range is being abused. DPPTPP may be the abuser.Then I put my own ideas on the page (Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism), through GOOGLE translation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.232.87.193 (talk) 00:28, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for responding to the message I left you and for explaining. This will be helpful to others to know, and you'll also want to explain this in your edit summaries when you revert any changes. This will also help to ease confusion by other editors. Please let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything, and I'll be happy to lend a hand. Thanks again for the message. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:34, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
I think DPPTPP used 107.64.X.X (/ 20) IP address range.First, I noticed the recent edits of 107.77.211.48, 107.77.211.127 and 107.77.212.195. Their editing and the DPPTPP editing I canceled were the same model. Second, DPPTPP used to react quickly the editing of 107.64.XX (/ 20) IP address range was cancelled by me.If he doesn't respond so fast, I think I shouldn't notice that he is having problems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 36.232.207.225 (talk) 22:27, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Do you know how to remove the duplicates from this page?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:20, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Almost all my java scripts are gone, after you fixed the Nightpedia. How can I get them back? --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:33, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - You'd have to remove the duplicate messages manually from your archive, but that would defeat the purpose of having one... lol. When did the other scripts stop working? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:10, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- OshwahThey stopped when you fixed the nightpedia.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:32, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - I just disabled the Nightpedia script that we resolved last night. Does doing this fix the javascript issues that stopped working? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:35, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- No--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:37, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - I think I found the problem. Do things appear to work now? :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:41, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, Thanks so much! What was the problem?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:47, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - While we were troubleshooting your Nightpedia.js issue last night, I disabled some of your other scripts on common.js so that we could rule them out as the cause of the problem. I had just forgotten to re-enable them for you after we fixed it. Sorry about that! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:49, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- No Problem. :) --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:50, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - While we were troubleshooting your Nightpedia.js issue last night, I disabled some of your other scripts on common.js so that we could rule them out as the cause of the problem. I had just forgotten to re-enable them for you after we fixed it. Sorry about that! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:49, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, Thanks so much! What was the problem?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:47, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - I think I found the problem. Do things appear to work now? :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:41, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- No--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:37, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - I just disabled the Nightpedia script that we resolved last night. Does doing this fix the javascript issues that stopped working? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:35, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- OshwahThey stopped when you fixed the nightpedia.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:32, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Smyslov's step-son died in 1960
If you want the evidence let me send you a photo of his gravestone, which I have. Please stop wasting my time. It's a well-known fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.226.32.201 (talk) 14:41, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there, and thanks for messaging me with your input regarding your edit here to Vasily Smyslov, as well as your summary of the sources you have that can verify this change. This information is not well-known by the majority of readers and the global audience, and your message here suggests that you don't have a source you can cite in-line with your changes - not one that would be considered reliable. We need to find one that we can cite in order to verify the correct date. If you locate and cite at least one reliable source, your edit will be perfectly fine and will meet the necessary requirements in this situation. It also appears that the current date isn't referenced with a source either... in order to be impartial and fair, and so that the article reflects information that's accurate (it's better to have no content on a particular subject than to have wrong or inaccurate information on it), I've removed the sentence entirely. Once a source is found that provides or verifies the information, it can be added back and with the reference cited. Please let me know if you have any questions or need any help, and I'll be happy to respond and help you further. Thanks for the message, I wish you happy editing, and I appreciate your understanding. :-D Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:13, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Commission: Dissected Filmography For Greg Cipes A Good Idea?
This request was originally for AngusWOOF but he is taking a long time to reply back. So here is the plan: Most voice actors have their own filmography guides for the shows games and movies they worked on but Greg's should get one because of his vast amount of roles in both animation and live action.
He shows no signs to stopping from the entertainment industry anon. Why? Because it is getting really swollen.
So will you buy this or not? Can't be denied.
Best wishes,
67.81.163.178 (talk) 20:04, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for the message! :-) Forgive me... but I'm a bit confused with your message here and what you're asking for. Can you elaborate a bit further so that I can fully understand what you're looking for and need so that I can make sure I'm helping you properly? Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:57, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Question
Hello, what will I do if he does not want to engage in talk to resolve the dispute?--Sakiv (talk) 23:48, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Sakiv! If the user refuses to properly discuss the dispute, let me know. If they ignore discussions but continue to revert the changes on the article, they'd most certainly be blocked for edit warring and disruption. Just be civil and positive, open a new discussion on the article's talk page, ping the user in the discussion so they're notified, and follow-up with a message on their user talk page pointing them to that discussion with a link to it. This way, there's no possible way that the user could miss the memo. Let me know how it goes, and please don't hesitate to let me know if you have questions or need help with anything. I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:52, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks for all you do on Wikipedia!
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- I appreciate the kitten and the appreciation. Thank you :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:26, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
User
How can I get rid of the user prefix in my userpage?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:40, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Use {{DISPLAYTITLE}} ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 02:43, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Abelmoschus Esculentus is correct; see above ^^. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:45, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Abelmoschus Esculentus Can you do it for me in my userpage, while keeping the color of my name? It's too confusing for me. Thanks.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:50, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser -
I just did it for you.Enjoy :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:56, 10 December 2018 (UTC)- Never mind! Abelmoschus Esculentus edit conflicted me with his edit to your user page and did it for you instead. LOL ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:57, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oshwah, do you see it working? ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 02:59, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Abelmoschus Esculentus The Color's gone now, lol. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:00, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hold on... Y'all are doing it wrong! lol; one sec... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:02, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Abelmoschus Esculentus The Color's gone now, lol. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:00, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oshwah, do you see it working? ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 02:59, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Never mind! Abelmoschus Esculentus edit conflicted me with his edit to your user page and did it for you instead. LOL ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:57, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser -
- Abelmoschus Esculentus Can you do it for me in my userpage, while keeping the color of my name? It's too confusing for me. Thanks.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:50, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Abelmoschus Esculentus is correct; see above ^^. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:45, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Seems SkyGazer have fixed for you :) ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 03:02, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I keep getting edit conflicted! LOL. Oh well, that looks good to me. Thanks, SkyGazer 512! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:04, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) (edit conflict) I believe the DISPLAYTITLE can't technically be set to have words or omit words that are in or not in the page's title. I've fixed this now using a trick that moves the "User:" prefix way beyond what can be seen on a computer monitor; does that work?--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 03:03, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- SkyGazer 512 - That's done on purpose so users or trolls can't disrupt or confuse others by setting the DISPLAYTITLE to something completely different than the actual title name... though you definitely found a way to accomplish the later with your method. HA! I mean, imagine having to resolve a page move war and a DISPLAYTITLE war on top of it. The restriction is definitely for good reason and I'd argue that not having it would result in a lot of doors being open in ways of trolling, etc... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:05, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oh I didn't know that! ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 03:05, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks Abelmoschus Esculentus and SkyGazer 512 for fixing my name. SkyGazer, Yes, that's how I wanted it. Thanks! Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:06, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- EDIT CONFLICT while fixing the ping, LOL! Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:08, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks Abelmoschus Esculentus and SkyGazer 512 for fixing my name. SkyGazer, Yes, that's how I wanted it. Thanks! Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:06, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oh I didn't know that! ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 03:05, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- SkyGazer 512 - That's done on purpose so users or trolls can't disrupt or confuse others by setting the DISPLAYTITLE to something completely different than the actual title name... though you definitely found a way to accomplish the later with your method. HA! I mean, imagine having to resolve a page move war and a DISPLAYTITLE war on top of it. The restriction is definitely for good reason and I'd argue that not having it would result in a lot of doors being open in ways of trolling, etc... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:05, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Received and replied to each one. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:16, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
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I don’t know if you remember me.. :) they added something again that is a rumour, how can we delete it.
I think wiki should be only filled with facts not paparazzi guesses.
It’s about the pages you protected for me and it’s gone now, and the drama is back on 🤨🙄
Have a nice day ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdh m (talk • contribs) 15:24, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vdh m - Can you point me to the article and provide the diff of the edit that added this information? I'll be happy to help once you do so. Otherwise, I won't be able to locate what you're talking about based off just the information you're giving me here... thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:46, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- On the page of Robert Pattinson, the same problem as a month ago. There is a user lanaia33 who I am concerned off like I was with the accounts you eventually closes because it was the same person with different accounts ( i forgot the word you had for it ) this person right now lanaia33 is in an editing war on the page i told you Vdh m (talk) 07:59, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vdh m - Thanks for briefly filling me in on what we discussed before and for updating me on this issue - I definitely remember looking into this matter recently... but, as you know, I tend to get quite busy and I'm frequently asked to provide help and assistance around Wikipedia; it's easy for me to forget previous issues that I've helped resolve. ;-)
- I did some investigating and confirmed with behavioral evidence that both the Milkagoo and the Lanaia33 accounts are sock puppets of Saskia lou (a previous account that I believe we dealt with together). I opened an SPI report here, blocked both accounts, and semi-protected each article that's been involved with this issue for three months. This should hopefully put a kibosh to the matter, but let me know if you see any more edits like this to these articles and I'll be happy to take another look. Have a great holiday, and I wish you happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:06, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- On the page of Robert Pattinson, the same problem as a month ago. There is a user lanaia33 who I am concerned off like I was with the accounts you eventually closes because it was the same person with different accounts ( i forgot the word you had for it ) this person right now lanaia33 is in an editing war on the page i told you Vdh m (talk) 07:59, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Concerns about user:MisterSalvador
New account, created on 3 December 2018, using dishonest edit-summaries, and edit-warring against numerous users straight off the bat (against you, me and Wikaviani). I gave him a 3RR warning yesterday with clear instructions to bring his concerns to the talk page, after which he wrote a WP:tl;dr essay-like text while employing the ethnicity/race card (WP:PERSONAL);[11]
- "Biased and incorrect (outright inventions that the references used do not support) made 7 years ago by an Iranian editor"
- "Interestingly enough two Iranian editors (LouisAragon and Wikiwiani) have both been against my sourced additions and my removal of outright false, unsourced and irrelevant (for the article) information. I know that their nationality should be irrelevant but I cannot help to ignore it when I see them blindly supporting such biased work done by a compatriot of theirs (Persi). I have noticed much bias, outright lies and incorrect information on many Arab-related articles on Wikipedia and somebody needs to address it. "
So far he has also removed all warnings from his talk page.[12] Thoughts? - LouisAragon (talk) 17:13, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Additionaly to what LouisAragon said above, and with all due respect, i would say that this user seems to have some WP:CIR issues, since the sources he provided on the article's talk page are all Youtube links, other articles from Wikipedia and blog like websites. Wish you a great rest of your day.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 17:49, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Case solved. This user has been blocked indef by Ferret. Wish both of you guys a great rest of your day.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 17:10, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi LouisAragon, Wikaviani! I'm happy to hear that this issue has since been resolved. I apologize for being late to the party and for taking so long to respond to your request for help here. I hope all is well, and please don't hesitate to let me know if you need my help with anything else. I'll be more than happy to do so. Happy holidays to you! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:44, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- you're quite welcome, you cannot be everywhere at the same time ;-) Take care.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 10:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- No worries Oswah. The end result is always the most important thing in life. :-) Thanks for your response, and happy holidays to you as well. Take care, - LouisAragon (talk) 14:15, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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- TedEdwards - Received and replied. Thank you! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:07, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Please see my Talk page when you get a moment or two
Hello -- I left a missive on my Talk page with a Ping to you using: "{{u| Oshwah}}". I didn’t know if you were too swamped to reply by now (when do you sleep? You DO sleep, don’t you?). I also was wondering if I was using an outdated method that no longer works. (Is there a better way to Ping someone?). Since I’m not a mind reader (thank God) I didn’t know if you were aware of it or not. Whatever – I look forward to your response whenever you find the chance. Thanks in advance. __Plato's Stepchild (talk) 21:43, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Plato's Stepchild! Please accept my sincere apologies for missing your ping. You were using the correct method and that should notify me if you leave this in a comment. You have to also make sure that you sign the same edit adding the ping and that you don't mark it as 'minor' - else it won't notify the other user. I learned that the hard way... ;-) Anyways, I'm sorry that I missed your ping. I promise that I wasn't trying to ignore you or anything... And no, I never ever EVER sleep. :-P Let me finish up a few urgent tasks that I currently have on my plate, and I'll take a look at your user talk page right afterwards. We'll speak soon - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:51, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Plato's Stepchild - Okay... I'm at a good stopping point with one of my tasks, so I took a break in order to respond to your message here. My apologies again for missing your ping...
- Regarding the dispute over comment text on M*A*S*H (season 10): If you'll recall, this came to my attention when Basilosauridae created this ANI discussion about this. Instead of letting things escalate, I asked the user if they talked to you directly. She responded saying that you reached out to her (link to discussion) and discussed it but despite the discussion, it continued. I offered to message you and talk to you nicely, since this was all that was really needed, and I took things from there... In a nutshell: Wikipedia's manual of style outlines the proper use of comments here, and we should try our best to make edits that conform to them as this, by consensus, is what the community decided to implement as a guideline regarding their use. They obviously don't clutter up the article after it's saved; like you said, they're not visible on the rendered page. They do, however, clutter up the edit window and source text, and (as the guideline states) we don't want to add comments telling other editors not to edit something and to leave it alone. That was the point that I was mainly trying to make when talking to you that day.
- Sure, it's totally fine to be bold. I encourage it all the time, and you certainly were doing so that day when you made the change to the article adding those comments. However, when someone reverts your changes and leaves you feedback as to why this isn't what should be done on Wikipedia and you respond by reverting it back - it's no longer bold-like editing. It's now a disagreement that needs to be discussed. If more reverts occur that undoes the edit by the other person without discussion, it now becomes disruptive and considered as edit warring. In the end, so long as you follow the manual of style guidelines and be understanding and receptive of the feedback that's left for you, you'll be fine. Just remember that editors take time to talk to you about these things because they care about the project, they care about you, and they want you to be successful here. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:26, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oshwah - Thanks for replying. Sorry, I didn't realize you would answer this here, which is okay. Before I go on to the other things, I'd appreciate it if you would comment on the question I had previously asked, specifically the one concerning Basilosauridae. Do you find my analogy of the bookshelf useful or not? Do you think that what she did was proper? Normally I would have simply left the question open-ended, but to save a step or two, I'll ask it more directly: Instead of just reverting it, shouldn't she have instead kept my corrections and manually removed the hidden comment? Don't you agree that that is what she should have done? As it stands today, and has for over a month now, the page in question is riddled with errors, and they are there because of Basilosauridae . Shouldn't what she did be considered not in accordance with Wikipedia's policy where everyone is responsible for building a better encyclopedia? I’d appreciate an answer to that, as it not only deals with this issue, but to everyone in Wikipedia.
- Now the other stuff. Like you, I have consulted the MOS at least a million times over these many years. And just to double check myself I did it again. Here is one on the proper use of Hidden Codes:
Providing information to assist other editors in preventing a common mistake. For example … it may be appropriate to let other editors know about the error to prevent a likely re-insertion of the error.
That is exactly what I've been saying. That was the whole point of what I did – to take a pro-active step to prevent future problems, one of the reasons why they invented Hidden Comments in the first place.
- And once again you assert, "
...we don't want to add comments telling other editors not to edit something and to leave it alone.
" While that is certainly true in a general sense to articles as a whole, there are exceptions to the general rules. In short, we don't want anyone to change that data. Ever. You do understand that don't you? I'm not trying to be combative, I just want to make sure you're not laboring under a misunderstanding. The data is not to be changed. And it is precisely for this reason the Hidden Comments were created. You do agree that the info should not ever be changed, don't you?
- And once again you assert, "
- When you wrote, “
However, when someone reverts your changes and leaves you feedback as to why this isn't what should be done on Wikipedia and you respond by reverting it back - it's no longer bold-like editing
“ That's not entirely correct (as it applies to this situation), which is completely understandable on your part, since you weren't there at the time, and you're now trying to piece things together now after the fact. - It would have been one thing if she had based her position on something actual, like she thought it was not in accordance with policy; instead, she based it on her irrational notions.
- The “reason” she gave did not in fact make sense, as there were the product of her own imagination. If a person takes an action on something not based on reality, what is the other person to do? Further, you rightfully say that, “It's now a disagreement that needs to be discussed.” Which is exactly what I tried to do, and she refused to do so in any meaningful way. If you can find fault in anything I say then please do so and square me away. Unlike so many people on Wikipedia I'm not embarrassed to admit I made a mistake and I only want to understand what is right, whatever that may be. Simply stated, she had no right to block my corrections based solely on her absurb conjecture. How would you feel if you were in my shoes?
- When you wrote, “
- I think it's interesting to note that on your own Talk Page you have Hidden Comments cautioning users about making a potential mistake and suggesting that they use the New section function instead. And that is the right thing for you to do. Yes, I know that there is a difference between a User's Talk Page and an article page. But you're own actions show why it useful, which would make it especially useful on an article page.
- As I read the last part of message, I couldn’t help but think that if that had been directed to Basilosauridae, she would have responded by saying you were being patronizing. You’re not of course, but that was one of the problems of trying to even start a discussion with her. If someone won’t take words at face value, and insists upon divining some sinister motive behind them, what can one do? Thanks for your time. __Plato's Stepchild (talk) 21:34, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- I left the last comment in the discussion about the hidden messages, to which you did not respond and instead restored your edit without pursuing dispute resolution. My response wasn’t “not meaningful”, you just didn’t agree with it. Additionally I am offended by your exaggerations and assumptions of thoughts. Other than calling your hidden messages “over the top” I have not made wild and offensive accusations against you in any way like you have with every comment. †Basilosauridae❯❯❯Talk 22:41, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- Plato's Stepchild, Basilosauridae - I think you both just need to discuss this peacefully on the article's talk page and come to an agreement. I originally removed the comments because I agreed with Basilosauridae in that they're not necessary and some guidelines discourage it (as pointed out above). Plato's Stepchild believes that your responses and reasons made no sense; is there a possibility that we can start over and try again there? All I want is a peaceful and positive conclusion to the discussion. For how small this issue is in comparison to the many that are ongoing, this discussion is getting way too in-depth. lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:18, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- I agree and only am interested in discussing the articles content and the hidden messages issue. My opinion remains the same, so I’d suggest Plato's Stepchild open an RfC if they still feel strongly about the hidden message issue. Thanks for your help and feedback. †Basilosauridae❯❯❯Talk 01:27, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Basilosauridae - You're welcome. I wish you both well and that the discussion comes to a peaceful resolution either way. If I'm needed for more assistance with any of this, please don't hesitate to let me know. Otherwise, I'm going to step out of this and let the discussion take its course from here... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:55, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- I agree and only am interested in discussing the articles content and the hidden messages issue. My opinion remains the same, so I’d suggest Plato's Stepchild open an RfC if they still feel strongly about the hidden message issue. Thanks for your help and feedback. †Basilosauridae❯❯❯Talk 01:27, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Plato's Stepchild, Basilosauridae - I think you both just need to discuss this peacefully on the article's talk page and come to an agreement. I originally removed the comments because I agreed with Basilosauridae in that they're not necessary and some guidelines discourage it (as pointed out above). Plato's Stepchild believes that your responses and reasons made no sense; is there a possibility that we can start over and try again there? All I want is a peaceful and positive conclusion to the discussion. For how small this issue is in comparison to the many that are ongoing, this discussion is getting way too in-depth. lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:18, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- I left the last comment in the discussion about the hidden messages, to which you did not respond and instead restored your edit without pursuing dispute resolution. My response wasn’t “not meaningful”, you just didn’t agree with it. Additionally I am offended by your exaggerations and assumptions of thoughts. Other than calling your hidden messages “over the top” I have not made wild and offensive accusations against you in any way like you have with every comment. †Basilosauridae❯❯❯Talk 22:41, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- As I read the last part of message, I couldn’t help but think that if that had been directed to Basilosauridae, she would have responded by saying you were being patronizing. You’re not of course, but that was one of the problems of trying to even start a discussion with her. If someone won’t take words at face value, and insists upon divining some sinister motive behind them, what can one do? Thanks for your time. __Plato's Stepchild (talk) 21:34, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
You know it’s kind of annoying to take the time and trouble to write something and just have it ignored. C’est la vie, I guess. Oshwah, I understand you want to wash your hands of this and I won’t try to beat a dead horse. But I would appreciate if you would answer the question above, (the one about the analogy of the bookshelf and reverting errors to Wikipedia). Even if you don’t want to answer it, I’d really appreciate it if you just say, “I don’t want to answer it.” ( And if you don’t want to answer it, could you explain why you don’t?). Thanks again for your time.
Maybe someday I’ll understand why Wikipedia invented Hidden Text but doesn’t want it used for the very purpose its documentation says it’s to be used for. Who knows. __Plato's Stepchild (talk) 21:40, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Plato's Stepchild - I'm sorry; I wasn't trying to "play politics" by not answering your question or commenting about the "bookshelf" analogy you made, and I apologize if my lack of response caused you inconvenience or annoyance - it was absolutely not my intent to do that to you. I care about Wikipedia, I care about you, and I care that this dispute between yourself and Basilosauridae reaches a peaceful resolution. I didn't comment any more on the questions or analogies you made because I felt that they weren't closely related to this specific issue and situation at hand, and I also felt that they were stalling the real solution to this dispute, which is a discussion and consensus with the other editor involved (Basilosauridae). My intentions are not to become involved or take a side in your dispute with Basilosauridae over your edit to the article. My message to you was simply a reflection on the guidelines that I read and pointed out to you previously, and what I felt was a fair solution to the issue discussed on ANI that directly involved your edits - nothing more. :-) It'll ultimately be up to you as well as Basilosauridae to peacefully continue the discussion on the article's talk page, and follow proper dispute resolution protocol in order to reach a consensus regarding this specific edit.
- If you still want me to answer your questions regarding the "bookshelf" analogy you mentioned on your user talk page here (enclosed within the quotebox template), I would answer it by saying that the analogy is completely unrelated to the reason that the comments were removed from the article. Adding or even removing the comments is in no ways similar to "reverting books to lay in a messy pile on the floor"... If there was a discussion that reached consensus stating the proper order that the content should remain in, I'd understand your reason for adding those comments to the article if they simply stated that the order or manner of the content is like this due to consensus and they provided a link to that discussion. But as I pointed out, the discussion that was linked is still open and no consensus has been established. I understand that you believe that this dispute is similar to your analogy and that you were "putting books back on the shelf from the floor" and simply "adding a sign" to say that the books should be put back and in this order, but I disagree. To use your analogy, I'd say that this issue is akin to taking the books, which were already organized using a specific pattern or rule, organizing them all to a different pattern or rule, and then adding a bunch of signs that get in others' way that all say the same thing - "this order is correct, so don't touch or change it". I should point out that this discussion is going off from an edit (here) that you made over two months ago. Instead of continuing with more of these questions and analogies and trying to use those in order to prove your point, I recommend that you use Wikipedia's policies and guidelines to make a strong argument on the article's talk page with the editors involved so that they can respond, discuss it further, and help draw this issue to a close. Had you focused on doing so, I'm certain that the discussion would've been concluded long ago (regardless of the outcome)... Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:50, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Inquiry about Queen Sono and The I-Land
Please add the new drama series Queen Sono under the list of upcoming original programming series on the Netflix page.
Link: https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/netflix-orders-queen-sono-first-african-original-series-1203085465/
Also, please edit the genre for the series The I-Land. Deadline reported that it is not a drama but a science fiction series.
Link: https://deadline.com/2018/09/the-i-land-kate-bosworth-natalie-martinez-alex-pettyfer-star-october-faction-warrior-nun-sci-fi-series-netflix-1202472784/ Elainasla (talk) 07:36, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- Elainasla - Are you not able to add this to the list yourself? Do you need help? What article are you talking about exactly as far as the list goes? I'll be happy to help if you can elaborate a bit more for me. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:24, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
No subject
Hi Oshwash, it's me, Jules8527. I re-read where you got rid of my edit on the Kmart article. Speaking of which, I made some improvements over on the former part of it, it's former business ventures, specifically Makro, and I'm having trouble adding a citation. Can you please help me? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jules8527 (talk • contribs) 21:25, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Jules8527! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your input and your request. I'll be more than happy to help you! :-) Your edit here seemed to be based off of original research rather than off information that you can include as a reference. What you need to do with this information is locate reliable sources and cite them in-line with the content you're adding. Do this and you'll be just fine. :-) Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and I wish you a great day and happy editing! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:27, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Revdel request
Hi Oshwah, Hope all is well :),
Never in a million years did I think I would ever ask this but could you possibly revdel my own edit summary here please, I thought the image was her face photoshopped on someone else hence my amazement ....,
But it's her choice and all that so I feel the edit summary shouldn't be there,
Anyway thanks, –Davey2010Talk 01:55, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Davey2010! It's good to talk to you again. I hope things are going well for you and that your holiday is enjoyful so far. This edit summary does not meet the requirements for RD2 or WP:RD3, so I can't redact it. However, it doesn't seem bad... it wasn't a civility violation aimed toward another editor; it seemed like you were just confused and asking, "What...the actual... fuck.....". Okay - not a big deal. I'd just let it go and I wouldn't worry about it. :-) Please let me know if you have any questions or additional concerns and I'll be happy to discuss them with you. I hope you have a great weekend, a great holiday, and I wish you happy editing. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:31, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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The Nuke-Master's Barnstar |
Might've violated the Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, but WP:IAR, right? :P Kb03 (talk) 02:47, 12 December 2018 (UTC) |
- Kb03 - HA! Indeed ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Pls hlp me
Hlo sr pls hlp me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.78.72.184 (talk) 07:27, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hello, anonymous! Have you seen Wikipedia:Help page? Hopefully you can find appropriate links there to find answer for your problems. But if you don't, I think you'll need to add some more detailed description of what kind of help you need. --CiaPan (talk) 08:00, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- To add what was stated above, I won't be able to help you unless you describe exactly what you need help with. If you create an account and go through Wikipedia's new user tutorial, it will provide you with a lot of walkthroughs and help... that is the best help and tutorial that I can provide you. Please feel free to respond and elaborate a bit more with what you need help with when you can and I'll be more than happy to point you in the right direction. Either way, I hope you have a great weekend and I wish you happy holidays and happy editing. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 09:24, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- Cahk -
Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:35, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
[REDACTED-THEGOODUSER] ]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.14.106.42 (talk) 10:39, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Happy new year
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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 2019! |
Hi Oshwah/TalkPageArchives, Sending you a warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019 and may this new year bring you joy and laughter. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:49, 13 December 2018 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
- CASSIOPEIA - Hey! Thanks for the holiday wishes! I wish you a great holiday season as well. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:41, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
need your help
Can you assist me with editing the Earth article? Example (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:2D60:B600:91B1:B90E:A7A8:E8FE (talk) 16:33, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Sure! What exactly do you need help with exactly? :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:42, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Sakura Cartelet - Received and replied. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:08, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Protect Page
Hello Oshwah can I request that this page can be protected due to a lot of IP users editing the page without using the edit summary and writing things that shouldn't be there. Thanks for the help :) Breakroute (talk) 12:18, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Breakroute - I apologize for the delayed response here.
Done. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else and I'll be happy to do so. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Its okay I understand that you're busy, That's why I haven't seen this message till now because i've been at work all day. Breakroute (talk) 16:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Also I can edit Semi-protected articles I joined on the 12 December and have made more than 75 edits. Breakroute (talk) 16:54, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Breakroute - I assume that you meant to ask this as a question maybe? If so, then yes you are correct - you can edit semi-protected pages because your account is autoconfirmed (which means that it is both more than four days old and has made 10 or more edits to Wikipedia). Please let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else, and I'll be more than happy to help you. I appreciate your understanding with how life tends to get busy sometimes, and I hope you have a great day and a fun and stress-free holiday season! :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:31, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Just in case you ever wonder (like I do), "Where did that editor go that asked me that nice question?", today Breakroute was blocked as another sock of BMX On WheeIs. FYI! Socks, they be popping out all over. Liz Read! Talk! 05:47, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Liz makes no exaggeration, unfortunately. It happens all the time. A few have even fooled me... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:00, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- It's really hard to have your defenses up when they play the "new editor who needs a little help" card. It can suck any well-meaning editor in and especially someone like you who goes out of their way to be helpful. But, personally, I'd rather be a little naive and helpful than cynical, jaded, grumpy and quick on the block trigger. But I'll let you know if that attitude sticks with me after few more years! Liz Read! Talk! 07:08, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Liz - I'll admit... I've been left feeling quite disappointed and bummed a few times before where a user I spent a lot of time guiding, mentoring, teaching, and appearing to help grow and build from being a newbie to an established and enthusiastic editor winds up being confirmed as an abusive LTA user who was just trying to waste my time. A few other times, I've also seen otherwise good editors who were somewhat new make a mistake that was serious and have it lead to them turning to sock puppetry and deception in order to continue from the mistake that started it (one example being Winterysteppe). However, despite the disappointment that may sometimes happen... I absolutely agree with you 100%. I'd much rather assume too much good faith and be seen as an admin who is too soft, than to be an uncivil, unhelpful, BITEy jerk of an admin that is avoided and disliked because of their negativity. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:19, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- It's really hard to have your defenses up when they play the "new editor who needs a little help" card. It can suck any well-meaning editor in and especially someone like you who goes out of their way to be helpful. But, personally, I'd rather be a little naive and helpful than cynical, jaded, grumpy and quick on the block trigger. But I'll let you know if that attitude sticks with me after few more years! Liz Read! Talk! 07:08, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Liz makes no exaggeration, unfortunately. It happens all the time. A few have even fooled me... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:00, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Just in case you ever wonder (like I do), "Where did that editor go that asked me that nice question?", today Breakroute was blocked as another sock of BMX On WheeIs. FYI! Socks, they be popping out all over. Liz Read! Talk! 05:47, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Breakroute - I assume that you meant to ask this as a question maybe? If so, then yes you are correct - you can edit semi-protected pages because your account is autoconfirmed (which means that it is both more than four days old and has made 10 or more edits to Wikipedia). Please let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else, and I'll be more than happy to help you. I appreciate your understanding with how life tends to get busy sometimes, and I hope you have a great day and a fun and stress-free holiday season! :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:31, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Also I can edit Semi-protected articles I joined on the 12 December and have made more than 75 edits. Breakroute (talk) 16:54, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Its okay I understand that you're busy, That's why I haven't seen this message till now because i've been at work all day. Breakroute (talk) 16:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
the Ow troll is trying again
See User:ᏅᎦᏂᏔᎪᏁᏦᏋᏗ. Who do we block him as? Is this the banned Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Supreme Genghis Khan? Ah, I'll just punt to the usernames board..Meters (talk) 18:59, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Meters: Not to step on Oshwah's toes, but my advice would be not to worry about it. Just revert, block (or report to AIV/UAA), and ignore. No need to give them a moment's more thought than necessary. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:29, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- OK, but since I can't block myself, I have to justify my block on sight request. Meters (talk) 19:40, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Not for a username like that, and not if the edits are obviously abusive. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:46, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Meters - HJ Mitchell is correct. Just report the user and an admin will block the account as a sock puppet and (hopefully) not bother to pursue things even further because WP:DENY. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:54, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- I don't care about having the account tagged as a sock, and wasn't proposing opening an SPI. .I just don't want to waste my time making reports that might get ignored.. Making a block on sight request for an account that has never made an edit, let alone a vandalism edit is not normal. Any admin who recognizes the case will take action, but not likely an admin who does not. Certainly not on an AIV report without even an SPI to refer to. Even a UAA report as an attack name without an SPI link might be ignored by some admins..That's why I asked if this was Genghis, so I don't have to wait for an admin who happens to know about the multiple past cases. . Meters (talk) 08:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC) .
- Meters - No worries, and I completely understand your reasoning and where you're coming from. It could be SGK, but it could also be a number of other LTA users who tend to go after me like this... lol. The LTA / attack accounts that I typically see created are usually blocked and taken care of pretty quickly and as soon as they pop up on someone's radar; most admins should be familiar with this kind of abuse and take care of it. If they're not familiar or if they're not sure about what to do, they should be following the appropriate guidelines and leaving those reports open for another admin to examine. I don't recall on the top of my head ever seeing an admin decline a report like this, but I could be wrong. Before I was an admin, I just reported obvious LTA and attack accounts like this one to AIV with the words "LTA sock puppet account" in bold font and that always resulted in them being blocked by an admin pretty quickly. I wouldn't worry about adding reports such as this to AIV, but if you still do - just message them to me here or via email in addition to making a report at AIV and they'll be handled either way. :-) Let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns and I'll be happy to answer them and help you further. Thanks again for keeping an eye out and for taking care of these accounts - I appreciate it very much! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:49, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- I don't care about having the account tagged as a sock, and wasn't proposing opening an SPI. .I just don't want to waste my time making reports that might get ignored.. Making a block on sight request for an account that has never made an edit, let alone a vandalism edit is not normal. Any admin who recognizes the case will take action, but not likely an admin who does not. Certainly not on an AIV report without even an SPI to refer to. Even a UAA report as an attack name without an SPI link might be ignored by some admins..That's why I asked if this was Genghis, so I don't have to wait for an admin who happens to know about the multiple past cases. . Meters (talk) 08:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC) .
- Meters - HJ Mitchell is correct. Just report the user and an admin will block the account as a sock puppet and (hopefully) not bother to pursue things even further because WP:DENY. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:54, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Not for a username like that, and not if the edits are obviously abusive. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:46, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- OK, but since I can't block myself, I have to justify my block on sight request. Meters (talk) 19:40, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Meters, just happened to spot this thread. I come across his accounts regularly and just report them with Twinkle to AIV with the reasoning "LTA", and they get swept up quickly. Home Lander (talk) 23:43, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Meters (talk) 23:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm...... apparently.... a popular editor in the world of "lets make a username that attacks or trolls someone"... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:01, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Can't say I disagree...
(this works best if you have the script crossing out blocked usernames)... Home Lander (talk) 00:43, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, that's only scratching the surface... haha. That doesn't include any of the usernames that substitute or insert other letters or symbols to trick or get around abuse filters, nor does it include the list of the 100-or-so accounts that someone went through and renamed back in 2016 or 2017. I'm not sure why they spent all that time and did that, but I remember it being a subject of discussion and the list of accounts consisted entirely of usernames that were created to try and troll me in one way or another... *shrug* ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:55, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oshwah, my favorite ones are probably the ones like this. Like seriously, WTF. Home Lander (talk) 01:00, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Just out of curiosity, what has been the fastest time you have blocked an account for username violations that you can remember? SemiHypercube 01:02, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- SemiHypercube - LOL... If I had to give a fair guess, probably within 1-2 seconds after the account was created and the record showed up in the log (during a time where I was actively watching it and refreshed the page riiiight after the account was created)... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:10, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- SemiHypercube, that would probably be milliseconds, because I've refreshed the new users list, clicked on the first one to report it to UAA, and by the time it appears there, he's blocked it. Home Lander (talk) 01:10, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Just out of curiosity, what has been the fastest time you have blocked an account for username violations that you can remember? SemiHypercube 01:02, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oshwah, my favorite ones are probably the ones like this. Like seriously, WTF. Home Lander (talk) 01:00, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, that's only scratching the surface... haha. That doesn't include any of the usernames that substitute or insert other letters or symbols to trick or get around abuse filters, nor does it include the list of the 100-or-so accounts that someone went through and renamed back in 2016 or 2017. I'm not sure why they spent all that time and did that, but I remember it being a subject of discussion and the list of accounts consisted entirely of usernames that were created to try and troll me in one way or another... *shrug* ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:55, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Can't say I disagree...
- Yeah, I'm...... apparently.... a popular editor in the world of "lets make a username that attacks or trolls someone"... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:01, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Question
Can you take a look at this user's [[[REDACTED - Oshwah]|page]], as well as their contribs? They've added what appears to be their name and phone number on their page and are spamming multiple celebrity BLPs with same. I've reported them to AIV, but I thought some rev/del might be called for. I'm not sure though, so I will leave that to your wisdom. Cheers - wolf 08:19, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Thewolfchild! I've gone through and taken care of the edits and revisions that weren't already suppressed. I appreciate you for reporting this and for making sure that the information is properly handled and taken care of. Next time, you want to report edits, pages, or user contributions that require suppression privately. Either email it privately to the Oversight team by clicking here (that's the best way to do it, since I might be offline or something), or you can email it to me privately by clicking "email this user" while on any of my user pages or by clicking here. You definitely do not want to report or post anything sensitive like this anywhere onto the Wikipedia project itself - especially my user talk page (since it's being watched by 862 editors as of the time of this writing... lol). Reporting sensitive information like this publicly will almost always result in the Streisand effect taking place - where most editors will read your report here and then quickly run over and look at the edits before they become hidden from them. That exposes the information to more eyes, which is something we try to avoid doing as much as possible. The less people that notice or see the edits and the sensitive information, the better. ;-) Just remember that for next time and you'll be fine... I'm sure you didn't know about this... and shoot, if I recall correctly, I made the exact same mistake when I first reported edits that needed suppression too. I'm pretty certain that this was when I first learned about Oversight in the first place as well... lol. :-) Anyways, all taken care of. Thanks again, and I hope you have a fun and stress-free holiday. Until next time! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Help
Hello !
Can you please check if Lanaia33 is a real user ? There is a edit war again on the same page as last time, I don’t know if you remember.
Greetings! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdh m (talk • contribs) 09:14, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vdh m - All taken care of. See the response I made to your message above. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:17, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
FYI
[13]. Also Happy Christmas! Hhkohh (talk) 10:47, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Hhkohh! Thanks for the FYI, and I hope you have a fun and stress-free holiday season as well. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:18, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Looking for some help here
Oshwah,
I wrote to you back on November 10 or 11, asking for your assistance, after I was banned by an administrator, unfairly IMO. Two other administrators replied before you did, one of whom explained where my offending edit was done improperly, although I never figured out why the two legitimate mistakes I made were worthy of a ban, as if I intentionally had vandalized.
Okay, it's now 38 (or so) days later.
I went back to the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez page, which is where I got into trouble into the first place, and made edits that I had clumsily tried to in November, being more careful this time around. I cited three sources: CBS News, the Jerusalem Post, and the Times of Israel.
And I was reverted in 15 minutes.
By whom? By the same editor who referred me for banning last time, "Tsumikiria".
And here was his given reason for reverting my edits:
"we know Israeli media criticize anyone criticizing israel (sic)"
He also dashed off a message to me, accusing me of "disruptive editing", of making "defamatory" editing, and also warning me that I would earn another block.
I would maintain the following:
1. The sources I used are all quite legitimate. CBS is neither Israeli nor known to be pro-Israel. The Jerusalem Post has a centrist reputation, as per Wikipedia. So does the Times of Israel, which also maintains an Arab-language site.
2. The Israeli sources used were quoting American figures on both the right and the left, not giving their own opinions.
3. Tsumikiria's revert is clearly unwarranted, and needs to be reverted itself.
4. Tsumikiria's comment regarding "Israeli media" is not only untrue, it strongly suggests an anti-Israel or anti-Semitic bias on Tsumikiria's part.
In that I am a lowly WP editor, with dreadful computer skills to boot, may I ask you to please get involved here? Please do NOT take my word for anything: See the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez article, and everything mentioned herein, for yourself.
Thank you, Vcuttolo (talk) 12:28, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Vcuttolo, and thanks for leaving me a messages here with your request for assistance regarding the edits you made here to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The content you added seemed okay and well-sourced to me at first glance, but I didn't look at the overall picture in regards to the content, nor did I look at any current or ongoing talk page discussions involving this content. You should bring your concerns to Tsumikiria directly, and ask him/her to explain exactly why he/she reverted your edit to the article and exactly what was wrong with the content that was added. Tsumikiria added an edit summary with their revert stating that your edit added "undue synth" (or undue weight in regards to neutrality) and also stated in the edit summary, "we know Israeli media criticize anyone criticizing israel". I'm not sold on Tsumikiria's portion of the edit summary stating that your topic bans just recently expired. Past sanctions don't matter when it comes to adding content - they're over and shouldn't be used against you and as a reason to revert your edits. I'm also not very sold on the last part of the user's edit summary regarding the Israeli media either, but I'm also not an expert (no pun intended) on this article subject or the issue at-hand. In the end, the user is disputing your addition of the content, and (as difficult and frustrating as it can be) you need to respect that, discuss the dispute properly with Tsumikiria, and come to a consensus or resolution with them.
- On another note regarding this (and possibly other related disputes), you should keep in mind that you just recently came out of two one-month topic bans (anything relating to the Arab–Israeli conflict, as well as anything relating to biographies of living or recently deceased people - both broadly interpreted); you need to be very careful with any content you add to articles under either of these topics for awhile (at least six months), and you need to make sure to handle any reverts, disputes, discussions, or issues with other editors over these topics with your upmost respect and care. The last thing you wanna do is start an edit war, make any edits that may be interpreted as disruptive, behave or make any uncivil messages or personal attacks in any of your replies, discussions, comments, etc., toward other editors, or do anything else that would otherwise get you blocked or have more severe sanctions or editing restrictions applied to you. Having more severe sanctions applied to you and over the same topics will make everything harder for you in regards to any edits involving those topics; it'll add or cast doubt to other editors when reviewing your changes or your comments in discussions, or even nullify any merit you may otherwise deserve (in other editors' minds) while attempting to argue your side of a dispute in relation to edits to articles under these topics... so be careful. :-)
- Start a new discussion on the article's talk page with your questions and request for an explanation and assistance regarding Tsumikiria and his/her revert to the edits you made to the article, contact Tsumikiria directly by leaving them a message on his/her user talk page, point them to the discussion on the article's talk page and summarize that you're asking for an explanation regarding why your edits were reverted, keep your comments and messages civil, kind, and positive, and take things from there. If you do these things, refrain from making disruptive edits or causing an edit war, and always follow Wikipedia's dispute resolution protocol - you'll end up being just fine and the discussion will come to a peaceful resolution either way. Remember: Wikipedia is not about winning. Neither you nor Tsumikiria should ever have the mindset that "winning the dispute" is important or the objective and that doing so makes you a better Wikipedian or a better editor, and (on the other perspective) Neither you nor Tsumikiria should ever have the mindset or feel disheartened simply because you "lost a dispute" or that other editors look down upon you because of that (it's absolutely not true at all). You earn respect from other editors by always behaving civilly, obeying policies and guidelines, and always having the mindset that having content that reflects the highest-possible quality that we can write is the goal here. Good luck to you, and I wish you happy editing and a fun and stress-free holiday season. :-D Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response.
- As mentioned above, Tsumikiria left me a note accusing me of "disruptive editing", of leaving "defamatory" information about AOC, and also threatened me with another block. I immediately responded, with no anger in my tone, explaining my edit, and asking where I had gone wrong? Tsumikiria ignored my rather reasonable question.
- If you look over at the AOC page, you will see that he has been edit warring with everyone, carefully removing any word that might reflect negatively on AOC.
- When did "Wikipedia" become "Hagiography"? Should we change the name?
- Part of the reason I am reaching out to you is because in any digital contest, I lose. In this case, though, Wikipedia is losing.
- If you look at the brief discussion on my page between Tsumikiria and myself, and certainly if you look at the AOC page, you will see what I mean.
- Thank you, Vcuttolo (talk) 08:12, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Good luck. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:29, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you, Vcuttolo (talk) 08:12, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Meiling Melancon
Hi,
You are editing Meiling Melancon's page with incorrect information. She is not a Filipino immigrant. And to write this on Wikipedia would be false. If both her parents are not Filipino but were merely working in the Philippines, then she is not an immigrant. It would be like saying that Martin Lawrence, who was born in Germany to AMERICAN parents is an immigrant from Germany. Immigration from a country is only correct if the citizenship of the individual was at one time of that specific country which was never the case for Ms. Melancon. She was never a Filipino citizen. But a child born from foreign parents who were traveling through.
https://pro.imdb.com/name/nm1024868/about
I am curious why you would continue to say she is an immigrant when there is no proof online except 3rd party sources that say she is incorrectly Filipino?
I have direct contact with Ms. Melancon's representation and I can assure you your changes are incorrect. Please consider the above. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AsianMediaLooks (talk • contribs) 22:51, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi AsianMediaLooks! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your input and thoughts regarding the content you edited on Meiling Melançon (specifically, the edit you made here that I reverted). I appreciate your explanation and the IMDb link you provided as well, but I don't believe that IMDb is considered by the community as a reliable source, and I interpreted the phrase "Filipino-born" to mean that this person was born in the Philippines and not anything involving the article subject's parents and their places of birth or family origin - just where she was born. :-) Looking at the article, the content doesn't specifically state where this person was born - and since there also isn't a reliable source to support the information in dispute (that phrase), I agree that the information doesn't belong in the article and I see that it has since been removed. I apologize for reverting that edit you made and I appreciate you for messaging me about it and for doing your best to provide input and explain.
- On another note, I unfortunately had to block your account from editing temporarily just a bit ago for edit warring. Please understand that you cannot continuously revert your changes to an article in a back-and-fourth manner like you were doing earlier today to Meiling Melançon. When a content dispute arises and someone reverts your changes and you disagree, you need to follow Wikipedia's dispute resolution protocol and start a talk page discussion regarding the content and dispute, and work with the other editor(s) involved to come to a peaceful consensus. Edit warring is disruptive, and the block was placed on your account simply to prevent more disruptive edits from occurring on the article. Assuming that you don't create an unblock request and ask for your account to unblocked early, the block will expire automatically in 24 hours; afterwards, you'll be able to edit Wikipedia as you could before. Please keep these policies in mind as you edit Wikipedia in the future and understand that edit warring, or repeatedly reverting an article in a combative fashion to restore the revision you believe is correct, isn't allowed. A good bright-line rule to keep in mind at all times is Wikipedia's three-revert rule. Basically, it states that making more than three reverts to the same article or page within a 24-hour period will usually always be seen by the community as edit warring and hence will usually always result in being blocked from editing. It does not explicitly define nor does it draw a clear black-and-white line between what is considered edit warring and what isn't; the rule simply provides a common scenario that, when violated, will almost always be considered edit warring in mostly all scenarios and instances, and any resulting administrative action that follows will almost always be considered proper and justified.
- I hope my response has helped resolve some issues at-hand and to set expectations regarding proper editing and when to start a discussion instead of reverting the article. If you have any questions, please let me know. You'll be able to respond here after your block expires in 24 hours. Alternatively, you can message me on your user talk page here at any time (editing your own talk page is allowed while you are blocked) - just make sure to add '@oshwah' or '{{ping|oshwah}}' within your message on your user talk page so that I get notified that you're trying to talk to me. I wish you well and that you come out of this situation with a positive and open mind and that you see this as a learning opportunity, not something that will haunt you forever. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:43, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Request for username change
Hey, I created this Wiki account in ~2005 when I was about 15 years old and used to go by a very juvenile username (KittenKiller). Can you please change my username to FShah? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KittenKiller (talk • contribs) 04:42, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi KittenKiller! Sure, I can do that for you right now. Please know that after your username is changed, your login information will not work until you use the new username you requested to log in. I'll make sure to add a note to your user talk page in case you get stuck there. Stand by... I'm changing it for you right now... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:47, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Update:
Done. Your account username is now FShah, as you requested. Please read the message I left on your user talk page, as it contains the same important notice I left for you above (regarding the need to use your new username to log in). If you have questions, please don't hesitate to let me know. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:56, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Update:
- PS: I'm launching a project soon and I would like to have a wiki page created by a neutral 3rd party (due to conflict of interest). I can publish the information by an official tweet or on the project itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FShah (talk • contribs) 22:43, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- FShah - Hey, good to hear from you again! You're very welcome - I'm glad that you're happy with the new username and that you were able to log in okay. Regarding the project you plan to launch: I highly recommend that you be extremely careful here... Things like this will easily begin to creep up and become tempting to mention or talk about on Wikipedia - even if it's only one time. Do not fall into this trap; stay completely away from talking about or even mentioning that this website exists at all here. Consider it completely shunned in your mind and never ever talk about it again on Wikipedia - ever. This is the only way that your edits will fully comply with Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines and without question. I know it seems pretty strict to say it like this, but I've seen many other editors who didn't follow this advice and it usually always wound up resulting in issues later. If your project becomes notable, another editor will undoubtedly create an article and add content about it and you won't have to lift a finger; everything will take care of itself in that regards. Aside from Wikipedia, I hope the launch of your project goes well! I'm excited for you! Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Have a great rest of your day, and I wish you happy editing. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:50, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. I can definitely see how mentioning things like this can come back to hurt you. In that case, I think it would be a better idea to change my username (once again, i know) to CanIHaveYourMilkshake so as not arouse any suspicion (FShah is a portmanteau of my name). I've also made some edits to previous posts in this thread to conceal the specifics of the project. Fahad Shah (talk) 08:32, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- FShah - If your request is due to possible concerns regarding your project or website, I wouldn't worry about it at all. It represents you as an individual person and I see no reason why it would cause issues or suspicion in those regards. I'd just leave your username as-is; no need to fix what's not broken. If you have other concerns about it or would like to discuss your request further, please don't hesitate to respond and let me know and we can definitely discuss it further. Otherwise, I recommend keeping it as it is now. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:43, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Sounds good. I'd be happy to keep this username (actually, I'd prefer it). I also have another gmail account (made just for the project itself) with it's own Wikipedia account. The email address itself has the site's name in it, but it doesn't look like Wikipedia exposes the actual email address, so I'd happy with having that account's username renamed to CanIHaveYourMilkshake. I can include it in this thread if you think it's a good idea. Fahad Shah (talk) 08:57, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- FShah - Wait, are you saying that you have another Wikipedia account that was in relation to this project? Maybe we should take things back a few steps so I can better understand and give you good recommendations and advice. What exactly is this "project" you're referring to? Is it a Wikipedia project or WikiProject? Or is it something else that's completely unrelated and outside of Wikipedia? I saw that you changed your use of the word 'website' to now say 'project' - those two words mean and imply completely different things, so I think I should get a clear understanding and description from you about it, exactly what it is, and what it's going to do. Can you help me out by explaining this project in-depth for me so there's no confusion? :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Sure, I changed every occurrence of 'website' in this thread to 'project' so as to conceal it and not arouse suspicion in case someone checks my post history. They will be met with a slew of references to a 'project' and not to a website, which should lower the chances of the wiki page for my 'project' (read: website) being flagged for conflict of interest. 'Project' here does not refer to anything inside of Wikipedia/WikiProject. About the other account: In addition to the gmail account (created in 2004) attached to this wiki account (FShah - created in 2005), I have recently (2018) created another gmail account and it's corresponding wiki account for the 'project' I am working on. So at the end of the day, I have two gmail addresses, each with their own wiki accounts. With this (FShah) being my main account and essentially having my legal name as my username, I figured it would be better to change it once again so as to further conceal my identity, allowing me to make a page for my 'project' without arousing COI issues. I could also use the other ('project'-centric) wiki account instead to make and manage said wiki page, which I think is a better, more organised idea (However I would need a username change for that account since the username is currently set as the website name). Or alternatively, I'd be happy with simply delegating it all to a neutral 3rd party to make it for me. I'll leave it up to you to decide the best option here. Either way is fine with me. Fahad Shah (talk) 20:04, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Any thoughts on this? Fahad Shah (talk) 02:25, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- FShah - I apologize for the delayed reply to your follow-up response here. I was away for the holiday and I'm just getting caught back up with all of my Wikipedia messages. :-)
- Wait... I'm still a bit confused here by your response above and I have a few concerns. I need you to clarify and let me know directly: Is this project a Wikipedia project page that's primarily focused on Wikipedia-related expansion, improvements, or work? Or is it a website about something unrelated to Wikipedia that you're designing yourself and just want a Wikipedia article about so that people know about it and visit? If you're referring to the later, then we have a few big concerns that I need to clarify as well as Wikipedia policies to explain to you. I want to make sure that we're on the same page and that we understand one another so that you don't get into any trouble. :-)
- Any efforts to purposefully "conceal" a conflict of interest while attempting to create an article, expand content, or add links to your user page or anywhere on Wikipedia regarding your external website that's not related to Wikipedia is absolutely not okay to do - especially if you're using two accounts in order to do this. I appreciate that you're trying to keep your Wikipedia work and your "project work" (which is about your non-Wikipedia-related external website) separate, but that's a classic example of inappropriate sock puppetry and will be regarded and treated as a very serious offense. It typically always results in all of your accounts being blocked indefinitely, and it becomes quite difficult to return to Wikipedia, resume as an editor, and gain the complete trust of the community again when you have a history of sock puppetry in your past. Please further clarify what your project is and whether or not it's Wikipedia-related and a Wikipedia project in case I misinterpreted your previous response here. I'll be happy to continue assisting you as soon as I hear back from you. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:11, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Any thoughts on this? Fahad Shah (talk) 02:25, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- Sure, I changed every occurrence of 'website' in this thread to 'project' so as to conceal it and not arouse suspicion in case someone checks my post history. They will be met with a slew of references to a 'project' and not to a website, which should lower the chances of the wiki page for my 'project' (read: website) being flagged for conflict of interest. 'Project' here does not refer to anything inside of Wikipedia/WikiProject. About the other account: In addition to the gmail account (created in 2004) attached to this wiki account (FShah - created in 2005), I have recently (2018) created another gmail account and it's corresponding wiki account for the 'project' I am working on. So at the end of the day, I have two gmail addresses, each with their own wiki accounts. With this (FShah) being my main account and essentially having my legal name as my username, I figured it would be better to change it once again so as to further conceal my identity, allowing me to make a page for my 'project' without arousing COI issues. I could also use the other ('project'-centric) wiki account instead to make and manage said wiki page, which I think is a better, more organised idea (However I would need a username change for that account since the username is currently set as the website name). Or alternatively, I'd be happy with simply delegating it all to a neutral 3rd party to make it for me. I'll leave it up to you to decide the best option here. Either way is fine with me. Fahad Shah (talk) 20:04, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- FShah - Wait, are you saying that you have another Wikipedia account that was in relation to this project? Maybe we should take things back a few steps so I can better understand and give you good recommendations and advice. What exactly is this "project" you're referring to? Is it a Wikipedia project or WikiProject? Or is it something else that's completely unrelated and outside of Wikipedia? I saw that you changed your use of the word 'website' to now say 'project' - those two words mean and imply completely different things, so I think I should get a clear understanding and description from you about it, exactly what it is, and what it's going to do. Can you help me out by explaining this project in-depth for me so there's no confusion? :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Sounds good. I'd be happy to keep this username (actually, I'd prefer it). I also have another gmail account (made just for the project itself) with it's own Wikipedia account. The email address itself has the site's name in it, but it doesn't look like Wikipedia exposes the actual email address, so I'd happy with having that account's username renamed to CanIHaveYourMilkshake. I can include it in this thread if you think it's a good idea. Fahad Shah (talk) 08:57, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- FShah - If your request is due to possible concerns regarding your project or website, I wouldn't worry about it at all. It represents you as an individual person and I see no reason why it would cause issues or suspicion in those regards. I'd just leave your username as-is; no need to fix what's not broken. If you have other concerns about it or would like to discuss your request further, please don't hesitate to respond and let me know and we can definitely discuss it further. Otherwise, I recommend keeping it as it is now. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:43, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. I can definitely see how mentioning things like this can come back to hurt you. In that case, I think it would be a better idea to change my username (once again, i know) to CanIHaveYourMilkshake so as not arouse any suspicion (FShah is a portmanteau of my name). I've also made some edits to previous posts in this thread to conceal the specifics of the project. Fahad Shah (talk) 08:32, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- FShah - Hey, good to hear from you again! You're very welcome - I'm glad that you're happy with the new username and that you were able to log in okay. Regarding the project you plan to launch: I highly recommend that you be extremely careful here... Things like this will easily begin to creep up and become tempting to mention or talk about on Wikipedia - even if it's only one time. Do not fall into this trap; stay completely away from talking about or even mentioning that this website exists at all here. Consider it completely shunned in your mind and never ever talk about it again on Wikipedia - ever. This is the only way that your edits will fully comply with Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines and without question. I know it seems pretty strict to say it like this, but I've seen many other editors who didn't follow this advice and it usually always wound up resulting in issues later. If your project becomes notable, another editor will undoubtedly create an article and add content about it and you won't have to lift a finger; everything will take care of itself in that regards. Aside from Wikipedia, I hope the launch of your project goes well! I'm excited for you! Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Have a great rest of your day, and I wish you happy editing. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:50, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- PS: I'm launching a project soon and I would like to have a wiki page created by a neutral 3rd party (due to conflict of interest). I can publish the information by an official tweet or on the project itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FShah (talk • contribs) 22:43, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 08:08, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Cahk! Thanks for the FYI. Meh, the user ranted on their talk page once, and it looks like they haven't edited since then. I'm just going to leave things be as far as their block goes per WP:DENY - no need to give the user or his/her rant any more attention than what's already being given to it. ;-) Thanks again, and please keep the FYI messages coming! I appreciate them and I'll be happy to take a look at them when you find talk page abuse and you let me know about em! :-D Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:05, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello
I wasn’t block evasion but I was asking to unlock my account because therenotime didn’t unlock me since the retirement. I wish you can help me with this. Regard Benjaminzyg 2001:8003:DC1C:9E00:7508:FA3D:60D7:15AC (talk) 08:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
thanks
thanks for the welcome oshwah! was not expecting this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradleyagin (talk • contribs) 08:31, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Bradleyagin! Welcome to Wikipedia! You're very welcome. Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial and before you do any large edits that involve content creation or expansion. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be helpful to you. Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and it led to them being saved hours (if not over a day's worth) of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. Please don't hesitate to leave me a message if you have any questions, get stuck anywhere, or if you need help with anything. I'll be happy to lend you a hand! Again, I welcome you to Wikipedia and I hope you enjoy your stay. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Devendra Panday
Dude i tried to create a article name Devendra Panday,but some editor put it in Page for Deletion as they cant find his name in google because google only shows his native name. so I add his native name in the article and add some links too and tried to remove deletion tag but you reverted it. please go through the article,verify and then help to remove that deletion tag. Thank YouNEPBOY (talk) 09:42, 17 December 2018 (UTC).
- Hi NEPBOY! The only edit I made to Devendra Panday was this one. It restored the articles for deletion tag you removed from the top of the article (which is something that shouldn't be removed until the discussion is officially closed). My edit did not alter any content or article text; it simply restored that tag. You might be mistaking the edit I made for another one, perhaps? Let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them and help you if you need it. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Dude i have added some links to justify the topic,but i am unable to send message to previous editors,as i am new to wikipedia.if possible kindly look at the article Devendra Panday and give your opinion to the article whether its suitable to keep or delete.Thankyou very much for kind reply.NEPBOY (talk) 13:46, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi NEPBOY! Thanks for following-up and for updating me on what you're doing regarding the article's content. There's an important concept that we need to go over before you decide to spent more time making edits to this article. When an article is nominated for deletion per articles for deletion procedures (which is the situation that this article is currently in), this means that a discussion is opened for editors to add comments and input regarding whether or not it should be deleted and why. A key guideline that will be the very center of the entire discussion will be the concept of notability, or whether or not this article subject is notable enough in order to have an article on Wikipedia.
- Dude i have added some links to justify the topic,but i am unable to send message to previous editors,as i am new to wikipedia.if possible kindly look at the article Devendra Panday and give your opinion to the article whether its suitable to keep or delete.Thankyou very much for kind reply.NEPBOY (talk) 13:46, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Notability is absolutely unrelated and has nothing to do with the article itself; it is not determined by the quality of the article, how well it's created, how big it is, or anything else in relation to the article you created and built. Notability is generally established and determined by the availability of reliable sources that are secondary and completely independent of the article subject. These sources have to provide primary coverage on the article subject, and there must be enough reliable sources available to where a full article can be written and without the use of original research to add or fill in content. To summarize, the editors will search for sources that are available and can be found, and use that information to comment on whether or not the article should be deleted. There's nothing you can do to the article itself in order to make it "notable"; if an article subject is determined not to be notable, the only way that will change is if the subject becomes the center of more primary coverage and in reliable sources.
- I wanted to take the time and go over this with you so that you understand that the article itself will have no bearing on this discussion (the sources you listed will be looked at and probably discussed) and whether or not the article subject is notable. I don't want to see you spend hours upon hours adding content to the article and with the belief that this is what you need to do in order to save it from deletion. This will disappoint you and leave you feeling disheartened if the article is deleted and after you've spent all that time ultimately for nothing. What can you do to help? Review the policies and guidelines I listed for you above - know what a 'reliable source' is, what 'secondary sources' are, and read through and understand more about 'notability' (the pages are linked above for you). After this, you can help by locating sources that meet the requirements listed in the policies and guidelines listed so that other editors can see their availability (in case they didn't find them in their searches). Otherwise, I'd let yourself relax and keep an eye on the discussion (which is linked in the deletion tag).
- If you have any questions after reviewing the policy and guidelines pages I linked you to, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. I wish you a great day and good luck with everything regarding the article. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:14, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your kind reply and warm support. Now I am clear about the issue and waiting for the decision.Dude one question,if article deleted this time, can I create it later with the same name or not. Thank Youu.NEPBOY (talk) 15:51, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- NEPBOY - No problem! I just don't want to see you left frustrated and feeling disheartened and over incorrect assumptions or expectations that were set. Yes, you can of course re-create the article later after it's been deleted. However, if the content is exactly the same and the article subject's notability hasn't changed either, it would be eligible for speedy deletion (where an administrator can delete the article without any kind of discussion first) because it would be eligible under this criterion (G4). Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:02, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your kind reply and warm support. Now I am clear about the issue and waiting for the decision.Dude one question,if article deleted this time, can I create it later with the same name or not. Thank Youu.NEPBOY (talk) 15:51, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- If you have any questions after reviewing the policy and guidelines pages I linked you to, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. I wish you a great day and good luck with everything regarding the article. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:14, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
User:Nguyenquochieu2107 reported by User:KimverlynMaeRAMOS
Page: Indonesia at major beauty pageants (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Philippines at major beauty pageants (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Nguyenquochieu2107 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [14]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [18]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Dear Administrators, please help me. Once again, some Vietnam's fans had tried to change page Miss International 1976, Indonesia at major beauty pageants, Philippines at major beauty pageants, Miss Teen USA, Miss Universe 2018, Angola at major beauty pageants, and also he's trying to created some wrong information pages such as Texas at Miss USA and Miss Teen USA, and many more. They changed placements of the country. If you see history of these pages, you can see it. I tried to stop but did not succeed. They are Nguyenquochieu2107 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), User:2601:1c0:6d00:845:fd72:9e39:d448:84ee (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and other Vietnamese Fans. They changed placements of the country, the name of the contestant and using Edit summary to provoke war by using irrelevant comments in the edit summary section. They change Indonesian achivements with the Unknown contestant from some countries that was not competed for real, especially in the Miss International 1976, the Miss International Org. Admins already updated the page with the right information by adding some of the unknown name contestant that wasn't updated before, such as Miss Yugoslavia - Tulia Nirskha Marcic and release the information that New Zealand was withdrawn front his year competition and they make wrong announcement of data's since Miss International Organization was not allowed the contestant to compete without registration, its impossible for the organization to not being recognize and known the contestant names at that time since they have the real data of the contestants and placements of this year Miss International 1976 pageant. But this Vietnamese Users Nguyenquochieu2107 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) always trying to revert the right edits and trying to put back the New Zealand unknown contestant on the page of Miss International 1976 placements, they also deleted the best national costume winner which is Miss Philippines - Maria Dolores Suarez Ascalon is the winner of this title. He's also uses so kind of Bad Comment in the edit summary section (such as: shamed/ashamed, irrelevant comments) which is inappropriate to be published.
if you check his talk page "user:Nguyenquochieu2107 talk page". Wikipedia. Retrieved 17 December 2018. {{cite web}}
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(help), he's already been blocked by so many times and received so much warning by another users from all around the world, he keep lying about the info's especially pages that relate about pageantry, so many other user did not feel comfortable when ever this user edited with a wrong information, Wikipedia never allow to use rude & irrelevant comments in the edit summary section (such as what he's already been done before he was commenting bad like this>>> shamed, disgusting, etc) which is inappropriate to use that kind of words, you guys need to block this account since it's make confusing too much by editing with a wrong and hoax information, editors and the admin that own the pages feels uncomfortable as well as we read some kind of bad words from Nguyenquochieu2107 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) in the edit summary link, we Wikipedian must use this tools wisely as an editor.
KimverlynMaeRAMOS (talk) 5h30 , 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- KimverlynMaeRAMOS - I appreciate the message, but I didn't need a full copy of the report you filed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring... lol. I'm aware of your reports at AN3 and I saw them earlier today. I also responded to the discussion at ANI that you're involved with. I recommend that you respond and add information to the ANI discussion where necessary. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:59, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you
Hello !!!
Thank you very much !!!
I didn’t see your reaction on the fake account matter.
I had a feeling it was a fake account, thank you for checking it for me !!!!!
You rock !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdh m (talk • contribs) 15:13, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vdh m - I appreciate the message and your kind words. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:35, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- You are very welcome
- And in case we don’t talk anymore before Christmas
- Merry Christmas and Happy Newyear !!! Vdh m (talk) 15:40, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- I wish a merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you as well! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:13, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
2019!!!!
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- Hi again, Bradleyagin! Thanks for the message and the best wishes. I wish you a safe and stress-free holiday season, Christmas, and a happy and safe New Year. I hope you're learning the ropes here and that you're getting more and more comfortable with everything and how it works. Don't forget that I'm here if you have questions or need help; just let me know and I'll be happy to lend a hand. ;-) Thanks again! Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:28, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
You've got mail!
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Home Lander (talk) 21:42, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Home Lander - Received and replied! Thanks! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:54, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Examknow
I would like to thank you for your welcome to wikipedia. As an experienced web administrator I am very excited to be working on the biggest online encyclopedia. I strive to keep the internet free from cyber bullying and bad comments. Examknow (talk) 21:51, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Examknow! Welcome to Wikipedia! You're very welcome. I'm happy to see your enthusiasm here; It's really awesome to see that! You appear excited to join and help contribute to the project... that kind of excitement and enthusiasm you appear to have is something I rarely see with new users and seriously wish that I'd see 10000% more often - please don't change that about yourself or let anyone on here take that away from you. If you're interested in recent changes patrolling like you indicated on your user page and with your edits, you should check out the tools section of the project page. There are lots of great tools and programs that will make patrolling recent changes, reverting vandalism, warning users, and reporting repeated vandalism by a user to the proper noticeboard much, much easier.
- Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial and before you do any large edits that involve content creation or expansion. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be helpful to you. Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and it led to them being saved hours (if not over a day's worth) of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise.
- Please don't hesitate to leave me a message if you have any questions, get stuck anywhere, or if you need help with anything - especially anything in regards to recent changes patrolling or reverting vandalism. I've been doing recent changes patrolling and the removal of vandalism for about 9 years now, so I'll definitely be able (and happy to) lend you a hand if you need anything! Again, I welcome you to Wikipedia and I hope you enjoy your stay. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:06, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Also, I removed the external link you added to your message that provided the website that you say that you were an administrator of in the past, as well as what appears to be a company name from the subject header (to keep such personal information safe and hidden from public view). Depending on how involved you become with Wikipedia (I hope that you become deeply involved!), you may not want that information known to other editors here. I've removed it for your benefit just in case... trust me, I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't think you'd appreciate it later. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oshwah, I checked the link you removed and it was pretty hinky. I got all sorts of warning messages on my computer and it led to a blank page. I'm glad you removed it for the safety of other computers. Liz Read! Talk! 06:36, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Liz - Huh... now you're making me curious... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:37, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Liz - I just get a generic HTML page with a message stating that "there's nothing here, yet..." and advertises buying/registering the domain from the company Hostinger. It looks to be a site where the owner of the domain stopped paying for the registration and hence it "became available / for sale" for someone else to buy. Doesn't seem to be illegitimate or malicious to me otherwise. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:43, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Funny, my browser gave me warnings that it was an insecure webpage. It does make you wonder why someone new would share that link as a way of identifying their business and skills. Liz Read! Talk! 07:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Liz - What browser and version are you using? Did the warning(s) mention anything about a certificate? Or maybe that you were just navigating to an un-encryped or unsecured http URL? Yeah, I thought the same thing - why put a link to what appears to be an empty location or a place that you no longer have registered? The company that he added to the section header of this discussion (that I removed) was quite strange to me as well.... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:08, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Liz - Thank you for letting me know about the error. I will definitely look into it and get back to you. Thanks, Examknow — Preceding unsigned comment added by Examknow (talk • contribs) 20:03, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, so I checked the website and the issue was that the domain had expired and just needed to be renewed. There were no security issues that my MacOS chrome browser detected so security wise I think that we are ok. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. Sincerely, Examknow — Preceding unsigned comment added by Examknow (talk • contribs) 02:30, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Liz - Thank you for letting me know about the error. I will definitely look into it and get back to you. Thanks, Examknow — Preceding unsigned comment added by Examknow (talk • contribs) 20:03, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Liz - What browser and version are you using? Did the warning(s) mention anything about a certificate? Or maybe that you were just navigating to an un-encryped or unsecured http URL? Yeah, I thought the same thing - why put a link to what appears to be an empty location or a place that you no longer have registered? The company that he added to the section header of this discussion (that I removed) was quite strange to me as well.... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:08, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Funny, my browser gave me warnings that it was an insecure webpage. It does make you wonder why someone new would share that link as a way of identifying their business and skills. Liz Read! Talk! 07:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Liz - I just get a generic HTML page with a message stating that "there's nothing here, yet..." and advertises buying/registering the domain from the company Hostinger. It looks to be a site where the owner of the domain stopped paying for the registration and hence it "became available / for sale" for someone else to buy. Doesn't seem to be illegitimate or malicious to me otherwise. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:43, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Liz - Huh... now you're making me curious... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:37, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
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Hello Oshwah, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019. Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
(I finish school for this year, this Friday) --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi again Thegooduser! Thanks for the message and for the kind words and best wishes. I hope you have a fun and stress-free holiday, and that you have a memorable and safe New Year. Awesome; it'll feel good to be out of school for a bit. I always stayed on campus at my University over the holiday break. Things got pretty boring, but somewhat interesting to say the least... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:45, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Why you edit my page?
Husham Al-Wasty — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husham Al-Wasty (talk • contribs) 08:32, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Husham Al-Wasty, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your question regarding the deletion of your user page. Your user page was deleted because it met this section of Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion. Specifically, it was because the content you added had multiple issues in regards to the compliance of Wikipedia's policy on user pages (specifically, this section) as well as Wikipedia's policies regarding what Wikipedia is not intended to be used for. The page contained content that wasn't directly related to Wikipedia, and instead contained excessive content about yourself and as if it was being created as a social networking profile or a resume, and the content can also be interpreted as an attempt to advertise or promote yourself - which is not the purpose of user pages nor what they are allowed to be used for. Please refer to the two policy pages that I've linked you to above for more information. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and discuss them with you further. Thanks again for the message, and I hope that my response answered your question fully and was helpful to you. I hope you have a fun and stress-free holiday season and I wish you happy editing. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Your sida is full with tolk about Oshwah , how is Oshwah ,is he scintist or doctor or some thing has affect in the history ....? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husham Al-Wasty (talk • contribs) 08:49, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I don't understand your question or what you're trying to ask here... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:52, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Your sida is full with tolk about Oshwah , how is Oshwah ,is he scintist or doctor or some thing has affect in the history ....? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husham Al-Wasty (talk • contribs) 08:49, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oshwah and his crazy hair????? what have this at be with wikipedia ???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husham Al-Wasty (talk • contribs) 08:50, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- I think your question here is attempting to compare my user page and ask why the page I constructed is acceptable while yours was not - that's a fair assessment, and I'll be happy to clarify and explain. While it's okay for user pages to contain some inane, off-topic, or personal information about yourself - it still needs to be primarily focused toward Wikipedia-related information and content. It also isn't completely focused on myself in an article-style manner, not is it constructed in a way that appears that I'm attempting to promote myself or build a profile page. This is where your user page and mine differ and where the line between what's allowed and what isn't are somewhat set. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:07, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oshwah and his crazy hair????? what have this at be with wikipedia ???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husham Al-Wasty (talk • contribs) 08:50, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Collapsing content pasted from my user page. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:07, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
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Oshwah is my username. I began contributing to Wikipedia in 2007. After a few years of vandal fighting, discussing AFD's, patrolling new pages, and assisting new editors, I took an extended leave of absence to focus on my education (you'll notice a large gap in my contributions - Engineering isn't easy). After graduating from college and becoming established in my Software Engineering career, I returned to Wikipedia to resume where I left off. If you're not on IRC, you'll typically run into me through Huggle, AIV, RFPP, UAA, or in various other places where vandalism and trolling is taking place. I've been vandal patrolling for over 8 years now. I started in 2007 by performing each revert and leaving warnings completely manually. I started using Twinkle and Lupin's tool, and eventually found myself using other tools. After the rollback flag became unbundled from the admin toolset, I expanded my involvement. People often ask me why I spend so much time doing it. The answer is simple: I enjoy it. Everyone on Wikipedia should be volunteering in places they enjoy. Otherwise, what's the point? :-) |
- are all this directly related to Wikipedia???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husham Al-Wasty (talk • contribs) 08:53, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- My quastion what is the relation between Oshwah´s crazy hair and wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husham Al-Wasty (talk • contribs) 08:58, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Please see the response I made above. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:09, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- My quastion what is the relation between Oshwah´s crazy hair and wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husham Al-Wasty (talk • contribs) 08:58, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- You say :I started using a computer when I was 5 years old , what is the success here? from my speciality as consultant surgeon in Sweden i say to you it was not good for your health at get contact with these things in so early life , it increase the risk for ADHD and have more other side affects against your health. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husham Al-Wasty (talk • contribs) 09:03, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- I dont agree this fear from my side , it fear from your mind but not the whate the justice say , if you accept at show your crazy hair as good subject to the user of the wikipedia , it should be accepted to other at speak about 24 years education in medicine and surgery , it was not you who make your hair but it was by effort under 24 years which make my education. it is nor fear my son???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husham Al-Wasty (talk • contribs) 09:23, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Umm.... what? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Oshwah: Suppose 'sida' = 'side' = 'page' in some languages; and 'fear' may be confused with 'fair' due to a similar pronounciation. --CiaPan (talk) 09:40, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- CiaPan - Ah, okay. That makes a bit more sense I suppose... I think the user was just here to try and promote themselves and then went crazy when I U5'd his user page and after I explained why it wasn't in compliance with multiple policies... oh well. I tried to help... Thanks for the response and the input. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:47, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Oshwah: Suppose 'sida' = 'side' = 'page' in some languages; and 'fear' may be confused with 'fair' due to a similar pronounciation. --CiaPan (talk) 09:40, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Umm.... what? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- I dont agree this fear from my side , it fear from your mind but not the whate the justice say , if you accept at show your crazy hair as good subject to the user of the wikipedia , it should be accepted to other at speak about 24 years education in medicine and surgery , it was not you who make your hair but it was by effort under 24 years which make my education. it is nor fear my son???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Husham Al-Wasty (talk • contribs) 09:23, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Merry Merry
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Hello Oshwah, Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 08:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC) |
- Hi MarnetteD! WOW! That template background is R-E-D! LOL! Thanks for the template, the story, and your kind words. It's the time of year to spread happiness and joy, and it makes me happy to see editors and contributors doing just that. I hope you have a fun and stress-free holiday season, and I look forward to running into you again soon out on the battlefield. ;-) Cheers and until we meet again - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:47, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
ITS BENGALURU
YOU BLOODY , ITS BENGALURU NOT BANGALORE
DONT HURT THE SENTIMENTS OF KANNADIGAS, IF YOU CONTINUE I WILL TEACH YOU A GOOD LESSON. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.228.222.10 (talk) 12:04, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Please see this section regarding how we name articles and determine which will be redirects instead. There's no need to result to yelling and making threats... Please consider Wikipedia's policies and guidelines on these matters and that other editors have already discussed and made a decision about this. What you're doing is disruptive and it'll only make things harder upon yourself. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:08, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry for being a mild bit of a talk page stalker, but that comment violated this policy. Please ensure to not insult or threaten editors either, please view the message I left on your talk page with more information. Thank you! Best regards, Redactyll Letsa taco 'bou it, son! 19:01, 18 December 2018 (UTC) 19:01, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
You are tireless (not like a car at a junk yard), but so much more. Thank you for being so good. If all admins were clones of you, only a small handful would be needed, and Jimbo's secret DNA lab would be exposed. You are like a few dozen admins all at once. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:19, 18 December 2018 (UTC) |
- Hi Anna Frodesiak! Thank you for the barnstar and for the very kind words. I appreciate it very much and it means a lot to me. :-) I hope you're doing well and that your holiday season is going without undue stress or other stupid stuff that many other people face. It's great to say hi to you as always, and I'm sure we'll run into each other again very soon. Thanks again! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:34, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Brett Kavanaugh protection
Did you mean to protect ECP and not semi-protect? The previous protection till December 17 was semi-protection and after that expired the BLP violations were from IPs (and I haven't seen any BLP violations from autoconfirmed users) Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Galobtter - OOPS! I'm a bone head... Yes, I did. Thanks for letting me know about my idiot mistake.
Fixed :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:34, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
User talk:Star Goodkid
which you U5d continues apace with the same stuff. [19]...even reverted my welcome :D hope you're well! ——SerialNumber54129 15:24, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Serial Number 54129! Thanks for the message and for letting me know about the continued edits by this user. I've U5'd the user page again, and I'm going to hold off on doing anything to the user talk page, since the content was removed and legitimate messages and warnings are now being left. Let me know how things go and if I need to take another sweep at things. Things are going well for me, and I hope the same applies to you as well! :-) Thanks again - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm afraid the somewhat inevitable result happened...but no good faith is misplaced faith is it :) Thanks for the help. Cheers, ——SerialNumber54129 20:07, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Serial Number 54129 - Indeed... you're very welcome; always happy to help. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm afraid the somewhat inevitable result happened...but no good faith is misplaced faith is it :) Thanks for the help. Cheers, ——SerialNumber54129 20:07, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Mitrovica, Kosovo
Thank you for protecting the article. I had seen the disruption by the IPs since a few days ago but could not find the time to revert or report them. Much appreciated. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:40, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Ktrimi991 - You bet; always happy to help! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:42, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Happy Saturnalia
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Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season. Enjoy the sounds of the season. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:30, 18 December 2018 (UTC) |
- Hi 7&6=thirteen! Thanks for the message and for the best wishes! I hope you're having a great day, and that you have a fun, safe, and stress-free holiday. I'm available any time you need me - just let me know and I'll be happy to lend a hand. :-) Cheers, my friend - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:27, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
A holiday prize for you!
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You’ve for sure earned yourself a tasty cookie. Why don’t you sit back and enjoy it? It’s still heated! This free of charge snack is for 1. Always clicking the Huggle rollback button just before I can, 2 for dealing with intense RFPP backlog, and three, for being an active and helpful community member in addition to clearing Wikimedia Account Creation VPS backlog in an orderly fashion. Thank you, and enjoy the cookie! Best regards, Redactyll Letsa taco 'bou it, son! 18:51, 18 December 2018 (UTC) |
- Redactyll! Thanks for the cookie! I appreciate your kind word and the great work you've been doing on Wikipedia. Keep it up, and please don't hesitate to let me know if you need my help or input, or if you need me to look into something. I'll be happy to do so. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Justification for ignoring the UN?
How do you justifie allowing false information on page Mitrovica, Kosovo, information that is not in line with the resolution 1244 of the UN Security Council? And justifie disallowing editing of that information because of so called “vandalism”? By “vandalism” meaning correcting and adding information that is correct by the resolution 1244 of the UN Security Council and facts like the regional phone number to Kosovska Mitrovica +381 or registration plates KM (short for Kosovska Mitrovica)? Nik.kravchenkov (talk) 19:07, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Nik.kravchenkov - If you're referring to the semi-protection that applied to Mitrovica, Kosovo, I did this due to the high rate of vandalism and disruptive edits being made to the article, including edits that weren't supported by any reliable sources (or any kind of references at all). If you wish to have something modified on the article, you can create an edit request for another editor to approve and apply to the article for you. Just follow the directions on the page I linked you to. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else and I'll be happy to do so. I hope you have a great day and a safe and fun holiday. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:27, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Your edit was wrong.
Jaswal is not a jat clan. What you know about rajput clans. You are not from himachal and india. How come indian pages being edited by you people who know nothing about subject. Sjaswal (talk) 19:22, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Sjaswal - You need to cite reliable sources with your edits to this article. You cannot add content without a reference that's beyond general knowledge or if it contains data or information that's likely to be challenged. Your personal experience, recollections, or relationships do not have any level of merit on Wikipedia articles. What you're describing in your message above is original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. Please see the policy pages that I've linked to you for more information regarding what is expected with your edits to articles and content. Please let me know if you have any questions about them and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks for the message, and I wish you a great rest of your day and a fun and safe holiday season. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:46, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Can you assist with editing the Ted CoConis page?
I am copying the page below. I think I got all the copyright issues resolved.
About Ted CoConis (1927 - ) Ted CoConis is a self-taught fine artist and former illustrator who began his professional career in 1946. At the age of 13 he was selected to participate in a scholarship program for exceptionally promising young artists at the Art Institute of Chicago. This early education provided him with the foundation upon which he would develop his skills, independent of formal guidance and further instruction. The backdrop of this period of Ted’s life was the expansion of America’s involvement in World War 2, and ultimately Ted’s personal need to serve. When he was 15, he altered the date on his birth certificate and enlisted in the US Air Force to train as a pilot. Two years later, he was honorably discharged when his real age was revealed by his concerned parents. After a year of working at various jobs while trying to find gainful employment as an artist, Ted joined the Merchant Marine for a 6-month stint on a Liberty Ship destined to be the first American vessel to land in Russian-occupied Romania at the end of the war. All the while Ted continued to develop his artistic skills by drawing painting, and studying the work of the masters. At the age of 19 he embarked upon his career as an artist, beginning as a civilian illustrator for the US Army in Chicago and then at the Presidio in San Francisco. Feeling constrained by the limitations of creating artwork for military publications and marketing, Ted began accepting commissions from other prestigious organizations in the Bay Area. This, in turn, led to his becoming a free-lance illustrator and graphic designer for such companies as Sunset Magazine and Lucky Stores. In the late 1950’s Ted was invited to join Chaite Studios in New York, so he moved east to take advantage of the broader opportunities available to him through a major art studio. Within a few years Ted realized this collective environment was limiting his creative potential, so he severed the ties and returned to being a free-lance illustrator of magazines, books, movie posters and advertising campaigns. By the late 60s, he was one of this country’s most sought after illustrators, having earned a reputation for images that combined masterful draftsmanship, creative composition and powerful graphic design. In 2013 Ted was inducted into the Illustrator’s Hall of Fame. Ted's art appeared in every major magazine of the mid to late 20th century (Good Housekeeping, Redbook, Ladies Home Journal, Woman’s Day, Parents, Playboy, Argosy, etc.) and on dozens of movie posters (the 1970 adaptation of Oscar Wilde’s Dorian Gray, Fiddler on the Roof, [of La Mancha] and Jim Henson’s Labyrinth among others.) His paintings were featured on many record albums (Weldon Irvine’s [[20]], Richard Wagner’s Ride of the Valkyries, and Dmitri Shostakovich’s Symphony No. 14, etc.) as well as on the covers of countless books, including those of Vladimir Nabokov, Jerzy Kosinksi, Anne Tyler and Joyce Carol Oates. His illustrations were featured in the Newbery-award winning children’s book Summer of the Swans and in many Reader’s Digest Condensed Books, such as those of James Michener’s. In 1980 Ted resolved to concentrate on his fine art, so he and his wife, model and muse Kristen decided to “drop out” and live in Paris and the Greek Islands. On their return to the States, Ted continued to accept illustration commissions from select clients until finally severing the bonds completely in the mid-1990s. Since then he has dedicated himself solely to his figurative fine art. Over the years, Ted’s paintings and drawings of the nude gradually evolved into a series of lyrical yet profound character studies of women in Paris. Ted and Kristen continue to make yearly sojourns to that magical city to observe and draw interesting people, especially solitary women who exude a natural and powerful sense of self. A selection of these drawings and paintings are on exhibit at Lanning Gallery in Sedona, Arizona. When not traveling abroad, Ted and Kristen divide their time between studios in a small fishing village on the Gulf Coast of Florida and in an even smaller fishing village on the bold coast of Maine. |
Bleckmanweb (talk) 20:15, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Thoughts on a specific user?
Knowing the topic of which this user's name is related, I thought you'd like to take a look.
Users 1 and 2 come in and redirect an alt-right Japanese group to a very specific article, Hiromi Igarashi. I checked this redirect, and apparently you've semi'd and revdel'd things in the past with this exact article. The translations of the usernames are very interesting as well; having relation to Igarashi. Do you believe that these are sockpuppets of the same user that would have edited that page?
Note: at the time I post this, there may be more editors.
Neot/c 20:53, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Both were banned; I believe by Drmies. However, I would still enjoy if you gave some insight on the situation. Thank you. Neot/c 20:59, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Neolytical! Thanks for leaving me your message here with your questions. Looking at these accounts and their edits, I'd say that sock puppetry is extremely likely. Both of these accounts were created within just five minutes of one another (see their logs here and here), and made the exact same edit to the same article only six minutes between each other. Given what you said here about the usernames being similar and both being related to Igarashi, I think we have a slam-dunk open-and-shut case here. :-) I'll update the block on each account and tag them as sock puppets. Thanks for the message, and please don't hesitate to let me know if I can take a look at anything else for you, or if you need my help or input with anything else. I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. ;-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:06, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Neolytical - I just filed an SPI report for this case here if you'd like to read it. :-) Thanks again! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:57, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Neolytical! Thanks for leaving me your message here with your questions. Looking at these accounts and their edits, I'd say that sock puppetry is extremely likely. Both of these accounts were created within just five minutes of one another (see their logs here and here), and made the exact same edit to the same article only six minutes between each other. Given what you said here about the usernames being similar and both being related to Igarashi, I think we have a slam-dunk open-and-shut case here. :-) I'll update the block on each account and tag them as sock puppets. Thanks for the message, and please don't hesitate to let me know if I can take a look at anything else for you, or if you need my help or input with anything else. I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. ;-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:06, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Recent deletion
Hello! Not to press, but you just deleted material from a user talk page based on WP:DENY. I had to go and read over that. It appears to be an essay, and is described on the talk page as "not a proposal". As I am unfamiliar with this section, I was wondering if the deletion is properly allowed under that condition? I am not questioning that a deletion was necessary, only the conditions you described in your edit summary. Regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 00:15, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Hamster Sandwich! No worries! It's a great question and you have every right to ask about my administrative actions and with no apologies. The edit in question was made by an LTA sock puppet account attempting to do their usual thing and just be disruptive. You're absolutely correct in that edits or logs must meet a criterion listed for redaction in order to have anything hidden from public view using the tool. The edit was certainly purely disruptive, but I'll use WP:DENY at times instead of the actual criterion in the reason because I feel that it's sometimes more appropriate.
- WP:DENY, when applied properly and completely, goes beyond just ignoring the gouges and stabs that trolls make and to not feed them - but also to the level where we don't give them a single drop of our time, our energy, our thoughts, our efforts, and our reactions beyond what's needed in order to "scoop the poop". Redaction of some abusive and disruptive edits by LTA users are sometimes necessary in order to deny those users the recognition that they're trying to get from others. If it gives them a microgram of satisfaction and a millisecond longer of fame, I steal it all away from them and the content that would otherwise generate a response or reaction by other users simply gets ignored and fades away. It takes the edit off of everyone's radar and takes away what the LTA users want, and I know that it pisses them off to see their efforts to troll get kicked aside so fast and without a drop of effort that nobody even notices or bats an eye. THAT, my good sir, is how you apply WP:DENY to the maximum and like a fucking pro... lol ;-)
- Please let me know if you have any questions about this, and I'll be happy to answer them, clarify, or explain further. Thanks for the message and your questions about this, and I hope you have a great day and a fun and stress-free holiday season. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:53, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- I think I understand: It's a shorthand version of "Troll/ Sock" reporting. No problems, just a page I watch and noticed the "trash removal". Of course. as someone who has had some rather serious, and needless accusations thrown at me, I urge utmost caution where it might be applicable.
- I wish you and yours a very merry holiday season! Thanks for the explanation. Best regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 02:07, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Hamster Sandwich - I just filed an SPI report for this case here if you'd like to read it. :-) Thanks again! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:19, 19 December 2018 (UTC)I'm a bone head. I meant to post this response in the discussion above. Sorry if it seemed random and confused you... lol- Thankfully, I have a deep understanding of Wikipedia: There's always somebody else willing to do it. I don't have to worry about the goofballs as much anymore. Sock investigations are out of my scope of interest... My new mission is to try and help people who are struggling, and help them engage in a productive way.
- BTW are you a page mover or know someone who is? I am trying to help an editor who has made a good point about Blowup. The talk page discussion about the title as is is pretty mouldy (11 years, 7 years, and 4 years), the last RfC on the page move went "No Consensus" and I think the cites from IMDB and Allmusic (and the WP article Blow-Up (soundtrack)) all (except the WP ref!) warrant the title to be updated. Best regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 02:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hamster Sandwich - I can move pages, sure. I'll take a look and see what I can do. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:39, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, both discussions ('07 and 2014) closed as "No Consensus." There's a lot of muddy water there... and of course since it's a classic film, the refs. at the footer are immense. But as I'm laying out at WP:TEAHOUSE there's a strong point to re-visit with some clarity in the argument. One hopes. Cheers! Hamster Sandwich (talk) 03:58, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi again, Hamster Sandwich! So... I'm an idiot. I meant to post the response I made about that SPI report to the discussion above this one, and I instead accidentally posted it here. I apologize if the response seemed random or made you ask, "why in the hell are you now talking about an SPI report?"... lol
- Actually, both discussions ('07 and 2014) closed as "No Consensus." There's a lot of muddy water there... and of course since it's a classic film, the refs. at the footer are immense. But as I'm laying out at WP:TEAHOUSE there's a strong point to re-visit with some clarity in the argument. One hopes. Cheers! Hamster Sandwich (talk) 03:58, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hamster Sandwich - I can move pages, sure. I'll take a look and see what I can do. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:39, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Regarding the page move request: I took a look at the article, the talk page discussions, and the logs. I agree that the discussions are very old and never came to any sort of consensus regarding what the title should be called. However, I checked into the page logs and (ignoring the logs before 2018) I found that it was moved from Blowup to Blow-Up (film), then shortly moved back to the original title by another editor who disagreed with the move. This is ignoring the numerous page moves that took place and to many other variation of this. Since there was a somewhat recent attempt to move the article that was reverted and disputed, I think we should put a request in at Wikipedia:Requested moves so that it cam be discussed by others and a fair decision made. This'll assure that we're not starting another dispute or waking up a previous one. ;-) Please let me know if I can be of assistance with anything else, and I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. Thanks again for the messages, and I wish you a great day and happy editing. :-D Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:12, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- All day at work thinking, "The worst reason to help someone at a help page is because they say they are too busy to do it." I am a dupe! Lesson learned.
- I am going to that "GD'd" article and I'm going to read every "GD'd" reference there. All (seemingly) 9326 of them. I'll see if any consensus was formed from the refs anyways, and at the discussion I can give a binary number... So many sources there say this and so many that. Plus the standard refs of. Siskel, Ebert, Maltin et al. have to hold some hefty weight here. We're talking about the English language release of this film only. International posters and ephemera might be radically different from place to place.
- The 2012 editor mention Screen Quarterly, or something which sounded like a good source (!). The danger for me is this whole thing could suck some of the joy out of a movie I quite enjoy... The Yardbirds are in it if you've never seen. Worth watching just for that part. Best regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 20:34, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Hamster Sandwich! Sorry for the delay responding to you here. I was away for the holiday. I think that asking for help because someone is swamped and unable to do it themselves is generally fine if the matter is urgent and needs attention - I don't see an issue with that. Now, if a helper posts a response on a help page saying, "sorry, I'm too busy", I think that's a different matter (of course)... because, why? lol
- Regarding the page move request: I took a look at the article, the talk page discussions, and the logs. I agree that the discussions are very old and never came to any sort of consensus regarding what the title should be called. However, I checked into the page logs and (ignoring the logs before 2018) I found that it was moved from Blowup to Blow-Up (film), then shortly moved back to the original title by another editor who disagreed with the move. This is ignoring the numerous page moves that took place and to many other variation of this. Since there was a somewhat recent attempt to move the article that was reverted and disputed, I think we should put a request in at Wikipedia:Requested moves so that it cam be discussed by others and a fair decision made. This'll assure that we're not starting another dispute or waking up a previous one. ;-) Please let me know if I can be of assistance with anything else, and I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. Thanks again for the messages, and I wish you a great day and happy editing. :-D Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:12, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Awesome. Good luck with the review and please don't hesitate to let me know if you need any more input or help. I'll be happy to lend a hand. ;-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:59, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Vietnam National Football Team.
Blocking this IP address for "edit warring"....without warning....Is this a JOKE?? First off, the person who reverted my edit is the one make the initial change, adding a large amount of content without discussion first, so I reverted his/her edit again to revision and suddenly I'm the ONE who's denounced of edit warring. Secondly, my edit although is of large content removal but its MAIN content is the same, I just remake them to a shorter version. Thirdly those edits state clear valid reasons and there has been an ask for a consensus in the talk page, but little any one response.Cranepda (talk) 00:16, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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Please read message right asap. thanks. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:25, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Acknowledged. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- No, the other one, Thanks! --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:33, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- I responded to both. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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Question about user subpages
There's a user that left Wikipedia several years ago and has a bunch of subpages (that have not been edited in 5+ years and have no clear purpose). Is the policy to delete such pages per NOTWEBHOST? Enigmamsg 02:41, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Enigmaman! U5 refers to user pages that aren't in full compliance of WP:UPNOT or WP:NOTHOST - usually by brand new users who just created their account and make little or no edits outside of their user page. You've seen these kinds of user pages many times before, I'm sure... Examples that I typically find and delete under U5 are user pages that contain no content that's Wikipedia-related at all; where they talk entirely about themselves (add their DOB, name, location, other stuff), treat it like a user profile or social media profile, write about themselves or their band, rapper career, or other non-notable gig in an article-style manner, just add external links, or attempt to advertise or promote anything. G11 can also come into the mix here as well, as well as borderline-G3 content - I'll delete the user page under U5 instead of G11 or G3 if I'm certain they're not productive but where they're very borderline. What user account are you looking at, specifically? I'll be happy to take a look and give my input if you'd like - just let me know. :-) I hope my response answered your question fully and was helpful to you. Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions, need clarification, or would like my thoughts in a certain situation. I'll be happy to help you with anything you need. I hope you have a great day and a safe and stress-free holiday. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:09, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the detailed response! [21] [22] have a great holiday season. Enigmamsg 06:44, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Enigmaman - You bet! I hope you have a fun and stress-free holiday season as well. To give input on the two sub-pages you listed: these appear to be placeholder pages where the user was attempting to gather and organize sources and content. It looks like the user was trying to map or plan out an update or an expansion of content to the articles in relation. I wouldn't consider these disruptive or eligible for U5, and I'd just leave them be. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:15, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the detailed response! [21] [22] have a great holiday season. Enigmamsg 06:44, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Responded; thanks! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:41, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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You maxed out X's tools edit counter (User has made too many edits! (Maximum 350,000) LOL!!!!! You deserve the award for this! Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:33, 19 December 2018 (UTC) |
- Thegooduser - HA! That's funny! Someone else mentioned my edit count earlier today, but I don't remember what they said I was at... I wonder what my edit count is at right now if I'm over 350,000... I feel like someone who people feel sorry for because he obviously has no hobbies or something... lol! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:39, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Holy smokes. I hope some of those were automated! You're 42nd overall with over 386,000 edits. By comparison, I'm ranked about 1900th and I've been editing here for something like 12 years. Enigmamsg 19:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Enigmaman - Oh shit.... lol. I knew I had quite a lot of edits (last time someone told me what my edit count was before this discussion, I think it was at just over ~200k?), but I didn't think it was that high and so soon... I need a friggin' hobby... LOL. Automated edits? Me? Never... lol :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:02, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Holy smokes. I hope some of those were automated! You're 42nd overall with over 386,000 edits. By comparison, I'm ranked about 1900th and I've been editing here for something like 12 years. Enigmamsg 19:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
deleting lonelyExtravert user page
Good evening Oshwah,
You recently deleted my user page I had started stating U5: Misuse of Wikipedia as a web host. What I'm unsure of is why you'd do that... I had just started writing the intro to my profile. It appears you have the same exact thing on your profile - see here:
Collapsing a full copy of the content from my user page. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:15, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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"Oshwah is my username. I began contributing to Wikipedia in 2007. After a few years of vandal fighting, discussing AFD's, patrolling new pages, and assisting new editors, I took an extended leave of absence to focus on my education (you'll notice a large gap in my contributions - Engineering isn't easy). After graduating from college and becoming established in my Software Engineering career, I returned to Wikipedia to resume where I left off." AND "I started using a computer when I was 5 years old - a Compaq computer with a 200MHz intel Pentium processor, 48MB of SDRAM, and two USB ports on the back. It may seem standard to today's average computer user, but the fact that the computer provided SDRAM, USB output, and the fact that it included a sound card and an internal 56K modem set my parents back ~$2500 at the time. I used it to play the many old computer games that it came with, such as Star Wars: Rebel Assault II, Star Wars: Dark Forces, StarCraft, and Jurassic Park: Chaos Island. At age 7, I was proficient enough to teach my parents (mostly my dad) how to install programs, write documents, print, access the internet, and fix the many stupid things that he would do to break his Operating System. I built my first computer at 10 years old: a Slot 1 Pentium II Processor at 400 MHz, 128 MB of SDRAM, a Voodoo3 2000 GPU, and an ABIT (BH6 Model, I think?) motherboard given to me by my uncle. It wasn't the hottest computer on the planet, but building it myself was a huge achievement. I was a computer tech assistant for two years at my Middle School and for four years at my High School. I learned to handle helpdesk tasks, work with switches and networking equipment, address network and IP Addressing issues, perform server administration tasks (domain controllers and active directory), and I did a lot of computer repair. I put enough time into learning all things computer-related, that I was mostly self-taught in many Information Technology skills and concepts by the time I entered college." |
To me, this reads as the introduction to a blog post of which Wikipedia strictly prohibits. Would you mind explaining the difference between the one sentence I had written, and yours?
This is not meant to come off as defensive as I'm truly curious.
Thanks.
Sincerely, lonelyExtravert — Preceding unsigned comment added by LonelyExtravert (talk • contribs) 05:09, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- LonelyExtravert! Please accept my apologies - the deletion of your user page was unintentional and an error on my part... I'm so sorry for that! I've restored your user page and I apologize for the mix-up and any frustration that I caused upon you. Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns and I'll be happy to discuss them with you and help you further. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:14, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
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- BilCat - Received, and replied. Thanks for the email :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:20, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 10:00, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Cahk -
Done. A big thanks to you, as usual, for letting me know. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:49, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Speak for request
Hi there, may I start off in sending you love and light to blessed in Jesus name amen, recently you deleted a short arrival essay of mine validated veritable by the holy Christian scriptures, I presented many references in acord to what I wrote and wonder why it may have been deleted, I appreciate any feed back you may give to present to me by the most positive opportunity, thank you and kind regards in the name of the Lord that is for ever and may shall you be to stand too. Adam Graham Telfer Lim — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmadD-Telfer87 (talk • contribs) 10:59, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi AmadD-Telfer87! Thank you for the warm and positive message, and for messaging me here with your question regarding the reason why your user page was deleted. Please refer to Wikipedia's policiy and guidelines on user pages (specifically, this section), as well as Wikipedia's policies regarding what Wikipedia is not intended to be used for. Your user page is not a place to host your personal essays, scriptures, religious teachings, or other such content that's not directly related to Wikipedia and contributing to the project. This kind of stuff belongs on a personal webpage, social media profile, or another place that allows or welcomes such content. Wikipedia isn't such a place. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding the policies and guidelines I linked you to and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the kind message and for your civil and peaceful words, and I wish a great day, a Merry Christmas, and a fun and stress-free holiday season. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:13, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- I now understand and respect the terms thank you and many happy returns.
- Adam Graham Telfer Lim — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmadD-Telfer87 (talk • contribs) 11:28, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- AmadD-Telfer87 - You're very welcome. I appreciate your understanding, and I really hope that you consider joining us as a user who wishes to contribute and become a long-term editor here. I have to say... your civility is a breath of fresh air and I think you'd succeed at being a kind and level-headed contributor to Wikipedia. Consider going through Wikiepdia's new user tutorial and giving it a chance. That's what I did almost 12 years ago when I was new and just like you, and I've been active here ever since! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:34, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Concerning the IP 140.0.160.165 that you reverted
I wish to let you know that the ip that made this edit is the latest sock ip of a long-term, IP-hopping vandal who constantly does unconstructive edits like that while totally heedless of the trouble it makes in the process. I recommend blocking it for a while or page-protecting some of its recent target pages.--Mr Fink (talk) 13:06, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Apokryltaros! Thanks for the message and for letting me know about this. Can you provide me with any of the other IPs that this user has been using to be disruptive so I can do some investigating? Any diffs or additional information you can provide about this long-term vandal will be helpful. Thanks again for the message about this. I'll do some investigating with what information I have while I await any additional details from you. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:13, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- With pleasure... The vandal generally uses IPs within the ranges 139.0.XXX.XXX to 140.0.XXX.XXX, and it tends to do things like spam pages with inappropriate categories, or add poorly written information either is or is too uncomfortably close to WP:SYNTH, and add overly exhaustive additions to various "list of" pages that are synth, or are redlinked, or are extremely non-notable. Recent IPs it's used include https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/140.0.161.234 , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/140.0.119.237 , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/140.0.186.98 , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/139.228.78.109 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/139.228.78.175 There are many others, but these are the ones I've had most trouble with this year. I believe this vandal is the same vandal as the "Megafauna man" vandal.--Mr Fink (talk) 15:30, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- And now the vandal has hopped to 140.0.160.175. Perhaps it would help if we had Perameles allinghamensis and Perameles bowensis semi-protected for a while?--Mr Fink (talk) 17:17, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- Apokryltaros - Sorry for the delay responding to your message here. I was away for the holidays and I'm still getting caught up with all of the Wikipedia messages and emails I received while I was away . It looks like Ronhjones has protected both articles, so we're good there... I'll keep an eye on the IPs and the ranges you provided. If you see more disruption from these IPs or ranges, please let me know and I'll be happy to take a look and step in where needed. Thanks for the messages - I appreciate the hard work that you give to Wikipedia. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Understood. Sooooo... Was Santa good to you this year?--Mr Fink (talk) 00:15, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Apokryltaros - Nah, man... that guy screws me over every year. I keep asking Santa for a pony, run outside each Christmas morning expecting to see one and just to be left disappointed... I hope Santa was better to you than he was to me. :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:19, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Understood. Sooooo... Was Santa good to you this year?--Mr Fink (talk) 00:15, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Apokryltaros - Sorry for the delay responding to your message here. I was away for the holidays and I'm still getting caught up with all of the Wikipedia messages and emails I received while I was away . It looks like Ronhjones has protected both articles, so we're good there... I'll keep an eye on the IPs and the ranges you provided. If you see more disruption from these IPs or ranges, please let me know and I'll be happy to take a look and step in where needed. Thanks for the messages - I appreciate the hard work that you give to Wikipedia. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
HEY MATE !!
Hello Oshwah, I hope you are well :). I want to chat about something with you, but I want to do it in private :). Is it alright if I email you?. Its just in relation to my editing styles and I want to try to improve myself on Wikipedia. I have a reputable standing with two user rights and I've only ever had self request blocks. Please can you. Best --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 13:29, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi EurovisionNim! Of course! Just click here to send me an email and I'll take a look as soon as I receive it. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- You can't give yourself a WikiBreak and a self block and then changed your mind as well as trying to remove what you said on my talkpage. That's not on Nim. Vauxford (talk) 14:04, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vauxford - I was the administrator who removed the Wikibreak enforcer script that EurovisionNim placed on his own account after he requested this. You're welcome to take any issues you have about EurovisionNim's right to edit or stop editing when he wants directly to me, and I'll be happy to set the record straight with you.... If you've read this section of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines regarding what Wikipedia isn't designed to be, you'll know that Wikipedia editors are 100% free to stop editing, resume editing, take a break, change their minds, and come back to edit any time they please. Why are you telling EurovisionNim otherwise here? Other than to try and give undue hardship that's incorrect and has no merit, what was the purpose of your message here? ..... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:13, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Also Vauxford, if I copy (or write something similar or exactly as you say) I am not plagiarising. Its just sometimes I have a different editing style and I find thats the best way to argue over my points. I don't want to cause harm, I just want to slowly learn. I'm a slow learner, my memory isn't very good so my style may be lackluster. I want to help, but you need to learn to share. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 14:23, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- You can't give yourself a WikiBreak and a self block and then changed your mind as well as trying to remove what you said on my talkpage. That's not on Nim. Vauxford (talk) 14:04, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- I wasn't saying he was breaking policies, it just slightly frustrating to go through all that and then change your mind just a few days into it. Vauxford (talk) 14:26, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vauxford what about your threat to report me? I don't understand why you are getting worked up over this. Just tell me, why do you desperately want me blocked? I have done nothing wrong, except maybe copy your editing style and replacing my images. I want to change, I'm getting around to avoiding CARPIX altogether. I want to learn, I want to grow, but you seem to think that reverting me is the only way I'm going to learn. Thats why i want to discuss it here. Besides, the only reason I do follow these guidelines, is because when I began Wikipedia, I used to do unnecessary edits, then OSX kept annoying me about this and this. He basically outlined that these were the ways to edit. I apologise if I had to shove it down the throat, this is what I was trained and I am happy for extra mentoring if necessary. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 14:28, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm a little bit confused here... Vauxford, can you elaborate further regarding your accusations and why exactly you want to start an ANI discussion about you and EurovisionNim? I don't understand here, and I'd like to try and help provide guidance and input here so that things can be worked out peacefully. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:34, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- What I've done is made Vauxford a compromise. I've suggested that he should focus on all the European manufactured cars and any other cars that aren't sold in the Oceania market and for me to work on the other cars that are sold in Australia. Non-European cars especially Japanese and Asian cars are in high demand here and I want him to work on the cars selling in huge numbers in the UK. I've even said I'm happy to leave these cars to him. That way, we both can have a share in the car spotting and we both can have fun without any disputes. Please feel free to disagree with me, but its the only way we are going to resolve this dispute. I don't like to fight, i don't want anyone to lose friends, I want to promote peace --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 14:38, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- EurovisionNim, Vauxford - Why not just edit in the same areas like you've been doing, and just start a discussion if you bump into one another or have a disagreement? I've looked through the past discussions between you two and they've been very peaceful; you two did well when you were working together or had a discussion to bring up. What caused this to change? Why are you both in a heated or angry-toned term of talking to one another now? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:43, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- You are bang on, in fact our image quality is almost similar. I do not mind if other users revert my edit, but I do mind if the creator of the photo does because this only indicates that the user thinks his image is better. I always get second opinions, and afterwards, I leave image alone. I want to work with Vauxford, he can train me on what 'good quality' is and this can help me in the near future when I need to make an edit. I don't have to argue, in fact I hate arguing. But to be fair mate, if I speak or say the same thing as you, its not grounds to report me. It may be annoying (a lot of my friends say that) but if I deem it to help to win an argument, I shall use it. Rememeber when you do essays for school, you are meant to quote the book and analyse (this is an analogy, but based on past experience) --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 14:45, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- EurovisionNim, Vauxford - Why not just edit in the same areas like you've been doing, and just start a discussion if you bump into one another or have a disagreement? I've looked through the past discussions between you two and they've been very peaceful; you two did well when you were working together or had a discussion to bring up. What caused this to change? Why are you both in a heated or angry-toned term of talking to one another now? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:43, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- This is towards the first question that Oshwah asked me as im having connectivity issues. Because he just pester me. He like to follow me everywhere, floading my talkpage every edit I do. Trying to copy everything I do, the way I photograph thing, the way I talk and use of words. That what is it in a nutshell. Vauxford (talk) 14:59, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vauxford - If this is really how you feel, then you might find the proposal that EurovisionNim mentioned above (keeping to different regional areas of cars and images so that you two don't frequently bump heads with one another) something you should consider. This way, you two won't run into one another, duplicate any work that's already done, or need to worry about edits stepping on the toes of one another; you'll just edit the car pictures in the regions that you agree to take, and EurovisionNim will only edit the car pictures in the regions that he agrees to take. That sounds like a fair proposition that will resolve these matters. You should agree to the proposal and take the deal. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:23, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Perfect Oshwah, so basically i'll leave you with the European manufactured cars such as BMW, Audi, Peugeot, Porsche etc. whilst I focus on the other cars such as Toyota, Nissan, Ford, Mazda etc. I can leave you with the European cars. I can make a list for us to share. Best, and I will of course still upload, but we will discuss with you the European cars. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 15:21, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vauxford. I can make you a list of vehicles that you can picture and you can make a list for me to focus on. How about that. We have a deal --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 15:24, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vauxford - If this is really how you feel, then you might find the proposal that EurovisionNim mentioned above (keeping to different regional areas of cars and images so that you two don't frequently bump heads with one another) something you should consider. This way, you two won't run into one another, duplicate any work that's already done, or need to worry about edits stepping on the toes of one another; you'll just edit the car pictures in the regions that you agree to take, and EurovisionNim will only edit the car pictures in the regions that he agrees to take. That sounds like a fair proposition that will resolve these matters. You should agree to the proposal and take the deal. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:23, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- What I've done is made Vauxford a compromise. I've suggested that he should focus on all the European manufactured cars and any other cars that aren't sold in the Oceania market and for me to work on the other cars that are sold in Australia. Non-European cars especially Japanese and Asian cars are in high demand here and I want him to work on the cars selling in huge numbers in the UK. I've even said I'm happy to leave these cars to him. That way, we both can have a share in the car spotting and we both can have fun without any disputes. Please feel free to disagree with me, but its the only way we are going to resolve this dispute. I don't like to fight, i don't want anyone to lose friends, I want to promote peace --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 14:38, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm a little bit confused here... Vauxford, can you elaborate further regarding your accusations and why exactly you want to start an ANI discussion about you and EurovisionNim? I don't understand here, and I'd like to try and help provide guidance and input here so that things can be worked out peacefully. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:34, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vauxford what about your threat to report me? I don't understand why you are getting worked up over this. Just tell me, why do you desperately want me blocked? I have done nothing wrong, except maybe copy your editing style and replacing my images. I want to change, I'm getting around to avoiding CARPIX altogether. I want to learn, I want to grow, but you seem to think that reverting me is the only way I'm going to learn. Thats why i want to discuss it here. Besides, the only reason I do follow these guidelines, is because when I began Wikipedia, I used to do unnecessary edits, then OSX kept annoying me about this and this. He basically outlined that these were the ways to edit. I apologise if I had to shove it down the throat, this is what I was trained and I am happy for extra mentoring if necessary. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 14:28, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- I wasn't saying he was breaking policies, it just slightly frustrating to go through all that and then change your mind just a few days into it. Vauxford (talk) 14:26, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
EurovisionNim - Lets wait a moment and give Vauxford a chance to respond about your proposal here. We don't even know if he's okay with it yet, and we're getting ahead of ourselves by running straight into specifics before he's even responded or had a chance to ask any questions. :-) Vauxford - Do you agree with what EurovisionNim is proposing? This should resolve things, and get you to back to the level of collaboration and teamwork that you two were at before, and where discussions were peaceful and you two were working to help one another if one of you asked... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:28, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- As much as I want to discuss this now but I'm in a situation where I can't. I will do in a hour. Vauxford (talk) 15:40, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vauxford - No worries; there's no rush. Feel free to return and continue the discussion when you're able. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:43, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, first thing, the suggestion Nim is a prime example of him taking stuff what I said and use it like he thought of it first. What I said right at the bottom is the very thing Nim just suggested and you're taking it like none of us thought about it. Aside from that, even after I suggested the whole list and certain region thing he stopped doing it because he "run out of Australian cars" also, the reason why your and my pictures are similar is because you mimic bit by bit how I photograph things which isn't a bad thing in general but it how he use it for his own gain, thinking that it like some kind of game to see who image appear the most also will appear on news article when I'm doing it for the sake to make articles better. I know he will outright deny all this and regurgitate some nonsense that he got from what I just said.
- I also find what Nim is doing is not creative, it not real skills, it just mimicking somebody else. Other photographers that tend to do cars have there own distinct style yet still valuable to be use in the articles. Nim on the other hand just seem to piggyback on the biggest fish he could find and go from there. This is fine if you are starting out because I did that until I found my own way on how to photograph things. Nim was here far longer then me and had plenty of time to find his own creative field that isn't just cars but never has. --Vauxford (talk) 19:07, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vauxford - I understand your frustration, and as hard as it can be to do - let's try not to focus on "who came up with what idea first", but instead on setting clear expectations with one another peacefully and committing to following what is ultimately agreed upon. I'm not going to make assertions regarding whether EurovisionNim's specific edits are creative, skillful, consisting of "hard work", or any other silly accusations. I think you two just need to agree on diving the workload into two equal and fair halves that you both agree with, and then both formally agree to work on only your half of the workload. If either of you notice issues across the fence, you both agree that you'll leave a message or reach out to the other to discuss it and that you won't edit or change their work without their approval first. This way, you both have clear lines and free territory to edit without stepping on one another, and you'll both have open and civil communication at all times when either of you needs help, has a question, or needs to discuss a concern or other matter. If either of you repeatedly break your agreement, you can hold the other accountable and ANI or whatever is within your right to go to if you feel the need to do so (but hopefully it won't ever come to that). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:20, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- I also find what Nim is doing is not creative, it not real skills, it just mimicking somebody else. Other photographers that tend to do cars have there own distinct style yet still valuable to be use in the articles. Nim on the other hand just seem to piggyback on the biggest fish he could find and go from there. This is fine if you are starting out because I did that until I found my own way on how to photograph things. Nim was here far longer then me and had plenty of time to find his own creative field that isn't just cars but never has. --Vauxford (talk) 19:07, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- We attempted all of what you mentioned, that the thing. Which is why I'm gathering Diff and other evidences for the ANI. --Vauxford (talk) 19:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vauxford - If you're dead set on filing an ANI discussion instead of giving things another chance, then that's completely within your right and your prerogative to do, and I obviously can't stop you from doing so. I'm sorry that you feel that it has to come down to this... I was hoping that, since both of you appear to be very solid and friendly editors, I'd be able to help you two work things out and that it wouldn't be as "huge and heated" as it was being made out to be. Either way things go, I wish you both the best of luck, and I sincerely hope that you two do your very best to be civil to one another and try and end things peacefully so that nobody has grudges toward the other. My user talk page is always open to either one of you, and you both are welcome to reach out to me for input, guidance, or help any time you need to. I'll be happy to help you with anything you need. Best regards to you both - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:11, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- We attempted all of what you mentioned, that the thing. Which is why I'm gathering Diff and other evidences for the ANI. --Vauxford (talk) 19:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vauxford, you can additionally send your diffs here. He’s an admin so technically you’d be wasting time reporting to ANI. Have a review of WP:BP. I don’t see why I should take a creative path. He can block me if he wishes. That’s admin duties🤗. I can get the exact same consequences if I get reported to the Admin noticeboard (incidents). Also there is bigger stuff other admins can worry about such as legal threats. Anyway, I would like to apologise on the way I acted, however I do still want to upload any car images I wish, but I will still work a lot more collaboratively. I think its easier if we get him to handle the incident for us. Have a good one -- EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 00:16, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- It looks like an ANI discussion has been started between the two of you. I recommend that the discussion be continued there, and that a link to this discussion here be left there as well. This will allow other editors to be aware of this discussion and be able to navigate to it and review it easily. Good luck to you both, and I hope that it comes to a peaceful resolution. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:03, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Vauxford, you can additionally send your diffs here. He’s an admin so technically you’d be wasting time reporting to ANI. Have a review of WP:BP. I don’t see why I should take a creative path. He can block me if he wishes. That’s admin duties🤗. I can get the exact same consequences if I get reported to the Admin noticeboard (incidents). Also there is bigger stuff other admins can worry about such as legal threats. Anyway, I would like to apologise on the way I acted, however I do still want to upload any car images I wish, but I will still work a lot more collaboratively. I think its easier if we get him to handle the incident for us. Have a good one -- EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 00:16, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
HELP
Hi Oshwah I'm new on Wikipedia I create a page about me the page has been deleted for the reason below This page has been deleted. The deletion, protection, and move log for the page are provided below for reference. 16:00, 19 December 2018 Oshwah (talk | contribs) deleted page User:Michelone.berardi (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion) (thank) can you help to understand to do a page like my friend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Al%C3%B9 Thanks for your help MB — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelone.berardi (talk • contribs) 16:06, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Michelone.berardi! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for leaving a message here with your questions and concerns. I'll be happy to explain Wikipedia's policies and set some expectations for you. Your user page was deleted because it consisted of content only about yourself and in a resume-like manner. Wikipedia is not place to host content about yourself like this, nor is it a place to simply "write a page about yourself". They're intended use is for content that's Wikipedia-related and where this is the primary focus. Wikipedia's policies regarding user pages (specifically, this section specifying what user pages are not to be used for) and what Wikipedia is not intended for (specifically, this section regarding the use of pages to host content like a resume or social media profile, or content that advertises or promotes) explains the proper use of user pages in-depth. I understand that someone you know has either written an article about themselves on Wikipedia, or had one written about them. However, if she does not meet Wikipedia's guidelines on notability, the article will end up being deleted and that time spent writing it will ultimately be for nothing, unfortunately. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them. I appreciate your message, I hope that my response was helpful and answered your question, and I hope you have a great day and a happy and stress-free holiday season. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:17, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
St. Charles Street Car Project
I work for the City of St. Charles and this is not a real or proposed project. There is no design, funding or plans. This has never been included in the Capitol Improvement Plan for the City. Realistically, the page should be complete removed because there is no "proof" of this being a proposal within the City. Thank you, Jeremy
[REDACTED - Oshwah] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlutgen26 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Jlutgen26, and thanks for leaving me a message here and for explaining your edit here to St. Charles City Streetcar. Since the information in question is in regards to content about a project that you state is no longer moving forward or no longer exists, I highly recommend that you add a new discussion to the article's talk page explaining this and with links to reliable sources verifying that what you're saying is legitimate and true. This way, it can start a discussion as to whether or not the content should be kept and this information appended to it, or simply removed from the article entirely. You can view the article's talk page by visiting the article and clicking on the "talk" table located at the very top of the article, or by clicking here. After you're on the article's talk page, click on the "New section" tab in order to start a new discussion and add it to the page. Please let me know if you have any questions or get stuck anywhere, and I'll be happy to help you. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you a great day and a happy and stress-free holiday season. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:23, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Pete Broberg page
I made an edit to the Pete Broberg page. I added one sentence and added a source Shropshire, M. (1997). Seasons in hell. New York: Avon Books. I find it funny how an article with 0 sources and a paragraph of info is edited down when someone contributes to it. I DID ADD A SOURCE. Brolympia (talk) 17:38, 19 December 2018 (UTC) Brolympia
- Hi Brolympia, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your input and your thoughts. I completely understand where you're coming from here; it's definitely frustrating to point out and I assure you that I'm going to try and help you with this as best as I can. :-) Is there a digital or online-version of this book that you can link me to so that I can help add it as a source for you? When adding content to articles that quote someone's statements or words, we have to provide a source that's reliable, and is easily verifiable by the community and where the likelihood of such sources being questioned is very low. Otherwise, it would be easy to "quote someone saying something" that isn't in fact true and just point it at some source. Please let mek now if you locate one and I'll be happy to help you add and cite it in-line with the content you modified. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:46, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Observation
I'm attempting to learn how to report you for your poor ability to function as a moderator for your failure to identify and educate an obviously new editor that presented a valid concern about the factual accuracy of a page which just happened to be 'vandalism' due to the info being placed in the wrong place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.112.161.116 (talk) 00:37, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you're referring to exactly, but you're welcome to take any complaints to this noticeboard. I wish you a great day and happy editing. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:18, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Can I interview you for next month's issue? Thanks! --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:25, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- Sure! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:36, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- Please answer the questions here Thanks! --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:47, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - All done! I noticed that the page you linked me to includes a section where PorkchopGMX was going to ask questions, but it was blank and didn't have any listed. Is he going to be adding more questions? If he does, please let me know (or PorkchopGMX can do so directly) and I'll be happy to follow-up and answer them. I hope my participation is helpful! :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for Answering the questions! PorkchopGMX can choose to ask questions if (S)he would like to. Thanks for answering the questions! --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Thegooduser: By the way my gender is male. PorkchopGMX (Sign your posts with four tildes!) 04:41, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for Answering the questions! PorkchopGMX can choose to ask questions if (S)he would like to. Thanks for answering the questions! --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - All done! I noticed that the page you linked me to includes a section where PorkchopGMX was going to ask questions, but it was blank and didn't have any listed. Is he going to be adding more questions? If he does, please let me know (or PorkchopGMX can do so directly) and I'll be happy to follow-up and answer them. I hope my participation is helpful! :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Please answer the questions here Thanks! --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:47, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
User Conflict Resolution?
Good evening! I have been repeatedly having to spend time undoing destructive, unnecessary, or derogative edits made by user Amishai GG. While I'm not attempting to be rude to this user, there are certain standards an expectations I was told to uphold when editing politicians' pages, such as always using an official portrait if available (and if not extremely outdated). I see you already commented on this users' talk page awhile ago for a similar issue. I was wondering if you could assist me in how to proceed with this situation, as I am not sure how to, and it's distracting me from other contributions. I appreciate your time! Peter M. Grund (talk) 03:39, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pharexia! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your request for input and advice when it comes to communicating with other editors. I'll be happy to help you and provide you with some information that will help your message and your concerns to be clear, but while being polite and positive to the editor.
- The best thing to do in this situation is to talk to the editor directly and not by using any templated warnings or notices if the behavior seems to be in good faith - and especially if templated warnings and notices have been left before and without success. Just leave a custom message with your own words, and start by saying that you appreciate the user's edits and good-faith attempts to improve Wikipedia. Then, say that you've reviewed some of the editor's recent changes and contributions and that you're concerned that the edits you're seeing made by the user are not in compliance with policy or consensus made in the past. Provide specific diffs to the edits you're referring to and link the user to the exact policies or discussions so that he/she can navigate to them and review them. Summarize what should be done instead of what they've been doing, and offer your assistance in case the user has any questions or needs any help. Link them to your user talk page and let them know that you're happy to help them any time they need it. This method of talking to the user will accomplish three important things. It will:
- Explain to the user that you understand that their edits are not vandalism or bad-faith disruption and that the user is trying to improve the encyclopedia.
- Clearly explain the issues or concerns with the user's recent edits and with examples and direct links to the relevant policy or discussions pages for the user to review and understand.
- Give the user the ability to ask for help or follow-up with questions, and while re-iterating further that they're not being punished and that you wish to help them.
- Just follow what I recommend above, and you'll be doing what I feel is the best thing for the user, as well as the right thing. Even in situations where you're not sure if someone's edits are being made in good faith or in bad faith, it's always better to assume good faith and reflect this in your messages (at least until the user's edits clearly show differently).
- I hope this response is helpful to you, and please forgive me for my delayed response to you here. I'm just getting home from seeing family for the holidays and I'm just now getting caught up with all of the Wikipedia messages and emails I receive. Please let me know if you have any questions, concerns, if you need more help with anything else, or if the issue continues despite your further communication with the user. I'll be more than happy to help or step in if it becomes necessary. :-) I wish you good luck and a great rest of your day. Happy editing! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:12, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
As you've edited this article, perhaps you could take a look at the talk page and my post to NORN. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 17:52, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Doug Weller! The only edits I've made to this article were to revert two previous edits: one for unexplained content removal, and the other for adding content that wasn't in compliance with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. However, if you feel that my eyes and perhaps my participation in the discussion you started on the article's talk page will be helpful to you, I'll be happy to take a look and add comments. Please let me know if you need anything else and I'll be happy to help. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:15, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Doug Weller - I found this discussion that you started on the article's talk page, and it looks like the matter has been resolved. Is this true? Let me know if my assumptions are incorrect and I'll be happy to revisit the discussion and help. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:19, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- That was a bit odd. Adamant their edits were ok, then reverted their edits. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 19:30, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Doug Weller - Indeed... odd, but much better than being uncivil and aggressive, and then refusing to take your advice and input. Let me know if I can help with anything else and I'll be happy to do so. Hope your holiday was fun and stress-free and that your New Year is both fun and safe. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:50, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- That was a bit odd. Adamant their edits were ok, then reverted their edits. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 19:30, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Doug Weller - I found this discussion that you started on the article's talk page, and it looks like the matter has been resolved. Is this true? Let me know if my assumptions are incorrect and I'll be happy to revisit the discussion and help. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:19, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Received and replied. Thanks! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:19, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks for solving our problems. I managed to purchase this car for you and I hope you enjoy it. I haven't seen you on IRC !! Please come and join the crew EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 10:56, 21 December 2018 (UTC) |
- Hi EurovisionNim! HA! Thanks for the car and for the message. :-) If only it was a real car... lol... No problem; please don't hesitate to let me know if I can help with anything else. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:21, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Its a Toyota Camry, and yes its real --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 03:56, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks
There has been persistent vandalism on the Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks wikipedia page. I noticed that you put a similar block on the Parramatta Eels page. Is it possible to do it for this one?. Sully198787 (talk) 11:28, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker). Please go to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. There needs to be a consensus before an admin is allowed to do it Sully198787. If you want to request a block, please go to WP:AN and click on the desired section. Cheers --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 10:29, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- This user was referring to page protection, not blocking. In either case, it doesn't necessarily require a consensus but the approval and action of a single administrator who agrees with the report or the request. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:27, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Sully198787! Thanks for the message and your request. I took a look at the article's recent history and I've applied semi-protection to it for one week. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else and I'll be happy to do so. If you have further page protection requests, it might be better to post them here in the event that I'm offline - requests that are posted there will receive a faster response during those times that I'm away. :-) I hope you had a great holiday and I wish you happy editing. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:25, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 12:38, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- Cahk -
Done. Thanks for the heads up, and I hope you had a great holiday. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:28, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
Hello Oshwah, I wish you a Merry Christmas and a healthy and successful New Year 2019. We see us in Huggle. Best wishes --Serols (talk) 13:20, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Serols! I appreciate the "Merry Christmas" and the new years wishes! I hope that you had a great holiday and that the 2019 year is a fun and successful one for you. Of course; we'll definitely see one another on Huggle as we usually do. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:29, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
The water is wide
This song was first known to me as Waly Waly, which I first heard sung by Paddie Bell, accompanied by the Corrie Folk Trio, in concert in Edinburgh c.1963-64. The song and sentiment perfectly suited Paddie's soprano voice and elfin charm. Although the group performed it a number of times, I have not found any trace of a recording - so it remains only a vivid memory!16:30, 23 December 2018 (UTC)MisterBlue1 (talk) Ps I don't understand the Wiki processes!
- Hi MisterBlue1! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for leaving me a message here and for explaining your edit to the The water is wide article. I'll be happy to help you and explain some of Wikipedia's important policies. :-) Any changes that you add to Wikipedia articles that are not common knowledge, contain exact information, dates, or data, or are otherwise likely to be challenged or removed by another editor - must have a reliable source be located and cited in-line with those changes. We cannot simply add content because we have personal experience, recollections, or personal relationships or knowledge of the article subject; that kind of content is considered original research which is not allowed on Wikipedia. This even includes citing any kind of article, research, or conclusions that you've written yourself - that's all under the same policy I linked you above and hence is not allowed.
- Since you're new here, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you spend time making any more edits or changes. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be helpful to you. Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and it led to them being saved hours (if not over a day's worth) of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. Please don't hesitate to leave me a message if you have any questions, get stuck anywhere, or if you need help with anything. I'll be happy to lend you a hand! Again, I welcome you to Wikipedia and I hope you enjoy your stay. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:36, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
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¡Feliz Navidad! ~ Feliz Natal! ~ Καλά Χριστούγεννα! ~ Hyvää Joulua!
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Veselé Vianoce! ~ Crăciun Fericit! ~ Sretan Božić! ~ С Рождеством!
圣诞节快乐!~ メリークリスマス!~ 메리 크리스마스!
สุขสันต์วันคริสต์มาส! ~ Selamat Hari Natal! ~ Giáng sinh an lành!
Hello, Oshwah! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
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- Spread the WikiLove and leave other users this message by adding {{subst:Multi-language Season's Greetings}}
- Hi CAPTAIN RAJU! Thanks for the holiday wishes! I hope you had a fun and stress-free holiday and that the 2019 year is both fun and successful for you. Until we run into one another again (which is usually pretty often... lol) ;-) - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:38, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Cameron11598 - Thanks man! I hope your Christmas was fun and stress-free! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:35, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Kpgjhpjm - Thanks for the Christmas and New Year wishes! I hope your Christmas was fun and enjoyful and that your New Years is memorable but safe. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:37, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Hi Davey2010! Thanks man! I appreciate the Christmas and New Year wishes, and I wish the same to you as well (of course)! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:38, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Oshwah, You're welcome and thanks so much! :), Take care mate, –Davey2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 20:50, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Merry Christmas Oshwah!
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- TheSandDoctor - Thanks for the wishes, man! I hope you had a great Christmas and that you have a memorable (but safe!) New Years. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:39, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- I did indeed and thank you! I hope you had a great one as well and a (safe) New Years. --TheSandDoctor Talk 04:18, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hello Oshwah: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Walk Like an Egyptian (talk) 07:46, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Hi Walk Like an Egyptian! Thanks for the holiday wishes, and I hope your holiday was both fun and stress-free. I appreciate all that you do for Wikipedia, and I hope you have a fun and safe new year. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:40, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Abelmoschus Esculentus! Thanks for the wishes, man! I hope your holiday went well and that your New Years is both fun and safe. See you out there on the Wiki... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:41, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Hhkohh - Thanks for the Christmas and holiday wishes! I hope you had a great Christmas and that you have a memorable (but safe!) New Years. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:42, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Wikaviani - I appreciate the Christmas and the holiday wishes. I hope you had a good Christmas and that your New Years is both fun and safe. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:43, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks man, wish you and your loved ones a wonderful new year 2019. May it be troll free ! Cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 23:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Wikaviani - "Troll-free"? HA! I wish...... lol :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:08, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- ;-)) ---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 23:10, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Wikaviani - "Troll-free"? HA! I wish...... lol :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:08, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks man, wish you and your loved ones a wonderful new year 2019. May it be troll free ! Cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 23:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Chris Troutman! Hey man! I appreciate the Christmas and holiday wishes! Thank you! I hope your Christmas was fun. Have fun this New Years and be safe. Till we meet again... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:44, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
You must have the warmest feet in the world
...because you sure get a lot of socks here! - BilCat (talk) 01:38, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- BilCat - By "socks", you mean Christmas socks, right? :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:39, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Joeymiskulin is at it again
Heads up to anyone who might care to help handle the situation: Joeymiskulin is vandalizing numerous television series articles again after just coming off of a block. I believe he has been blocked twice for this sort of behavior. AlexTheWhovian and I have tried to clean up after him in the past but some help would be nice. I believe you had blocked him in the past so I thought you might take a look at his edit history from the last few hours. Thanks, BoogerD (talk) 04:13, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi BoogerD! Please forgive my delayed reply to your message here about this... I'm just getting back from visiting family for the holidays and I'm just now getting myself caught up with all of the Wikipedia messages and emails I've received. :-) It looks like this user has been blocked and the issue is now resolved - excellent... I'm sorry for being so late to the party. If you run into any more disruption or vandalism by other editors, please feel free to report them to AIV or let me know. I'll be happy to take a look and put a kibosh to the disruption. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:49, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Urgent, please see ANI
Hi Oshwah, please talk and comment on this as established with Vauxford. Cheers --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 06:40, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi EurovisionNim - I'm just getting back home from visiting family for the holidays (I'm actually on the bus and using my mobile device for internet at the moment), so I apologize for the delayed response. I don't think you have anything to worry about in regards to the discussion at ANI that you're involved with, but I'll take a look and add comments where necessary. Just relax... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:43, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Mohd absam
Mohd absam (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Hi Oshwah. One editor re-created this article today (it was speedy deleted a few months ago). I nominated it for speedy deletion [23], and they changed the subject of the article without renaming it [24]. Then they repeated the same action [25]. They might need to have their article moved to draft space to make experiments there. I can do that but it is better if an admin has a look at the case. Thanks, Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:30, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Serial Number 54129: nominated the article for speedy deletion and the tag was removed by the creator again. Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:37, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Ktrimi991 - I apologize for the delayed reply to your message here. I'm (literally) on my way home from visiting family for the holidays. :-) It looks like the article has since been deleted, which is good to see. If the article gets re-created and by the same editor (or even if the page looks the same as before and it's created again by someone else), or if you need anything else - definitely let me know and I'll be happy to take a look and step in. I hope you had a great holiday season and I hope you have a great rest of your day. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:47, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Oshwah. I will notify you if the article is created again. I really adore your contribution to Wikipedia. I also hope you had a great holiday season too. May 2019 be prosperous and joyful. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:11, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Ktrimi991 - Thanks man! I appreciate your response very much. :-) I hope your Christmas and holiday season was both fun and stress-free and that you have both a memorable and safe New Years. I'm available should you need anything and I'm happy to help; please don't hesitate to let me know. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:46, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Oshwah. I will notify you if the article is created again. I really adore your contribution to Wikipedia. I also hope you had a great holiday season too. May 2019 be prosperous and joyful. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:11, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Ktrimi991 - I apologize for the delayed reply to your message here. I'm (literally) on my way home from visiting family for the holidays. :-) It looks like the article has since been deleted, which is good to see. If the article gets re-created and by the same editor (or even if the page looks the same as before and it's created again by someone else), or if you need anything else - definitely let me know and I'll be happy to take a look and step in. I hope you had a great holiday season and I hope you have a great rest of your day. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:47, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
AN/I discussion half-closure
Oshwah,
I commented out your partial closure of this AN/I discussion in hopes that by not having the "closed" template at the top, the ongoing discussion further below would attract additional comments and hopefully a consensus. Please let me know if I should have done differently. Thanks. --Sable232 (talk) 03:26, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Sable232! Uh oh! Looks like I might have dun goof'd an ANI closure... if that's the case, thanks for fixing it and for making sure that current parts of the discussion remained open for others to participate openly. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:41, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was too late though, the archive bot got it before a consensus was reached. Anyway, I wasn't sure what the etiquette on removing an admin closure was so thanks for that. --Sable232 (talk) 23:14, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Sable232 - It depends on the closure, but in general if it's becoming obvious that the closure of a discussion was ill-timed or badly done with the feedback and follow-up responses that the discussion is continuing to receive, I say re-open it! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:17, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. I was too late though, the archive bot got it before a consensus was reached. Anyway, I wasn't sure what the etiquette on removing an admin closure was so thanks for that. --Sable232 (talk) 23:14, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Huggle
Hi, Oshwah! What does "Queue" and "Filtered Edits" mean on Huggle, and what does the + button do on the top?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:20, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Thegooduser! The queue is simply the window that shows you the edits that are up next on Huggle for you to review and what will appear next when you move to the next edit. The drop-down list located on top of the queue list is the name of a filter that comes with Huggle when you install it. These filters change what Huggle will essentially look for and add to your queue when edits that need reviewing are found. You can use the default filters that are provided for you, or you can create your own filters in the Huggle Preferences menu. The "+ button" simply creates another tab that you can use to review edits while saving what you had open in the first (or previous tab) - much like how a browser works and with allowing you to have multiple websites open in tabs. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:39, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- How can I link my TW CSD log to HG when I do speedy deletion on HG? --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:47, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Good question. I'm not sure if it's possible to do. I never use Huggle to block users, nor do I ever use it to tag or delete pages. You'll get a better answer to your question by asking it here. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:02, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- How do you block users? Do you just smash Special:Block in the search bar? --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Are you talking about how I block users in Huggle? Or on Wikipedia? If you're referring to using Wikipedia to block users, there are multiple ways to do it. There's a guide on how to do it if new administrators are unsure or haven't blocked before. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:19, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- If I asked you to block me just for fun as the reason for the block "Well I don't know, but I want to" for 3 seconds will this affect my standing on Wikipedia?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:44, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - No. It'll affect my standing on Wikipedia... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:46, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Then why did SQL and a few admins block people for fun? --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:47, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Like the blocks in my block log? Because I don't care if they do so. I've offered (and still offer) my account up for testing if it's needed in a production environment like this site. :-) However, most editors (if I were to just block them randomly and out of the blue without a request) would absolutely care and would be (understandably) upset if I did that to them. In your hypothetical case (where you request it specifically), it would be fine but could still be seen as "playing with an admin button" and in a case where it's completely unnecessary if other editors were to see that block and without knowing the context behind it. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:55, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- You two stop standing on Wikipedia. You're going to squish it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:50, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oh come on, Anna Frodesiak! I'm not that fat! :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:55, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Yea, and I burnt off all the Calories from the Turkey I ate. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oh come on, Anna Frodesiak! I'm not that fat! :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:55, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Then why did SQL and a few admins block people for fun? --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:47, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - No. It'll affect my standing on Wikipedia... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:46, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- If I asked you to block me just for fun as the reason for the block "Well I don't know, but I want to" for 3 seconds will this affect my standing on Wikipedia?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:44, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Are you talking about how I block users in Huggle? Or on Wikipedia? If you're referring to using Wikipedia to block users, there are multiple ways to do it. There's a guide on how to do it if new administrators are unsure or haven't blocked before. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:19, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- How can I link my TW CSD log to HG when I do speedy deletion on HG? --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:47, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Village pump (proposals)#Reduce number of vandalism warning levels
Hi Osh, Greetings to you. There is a proposal at Village pump(proposal) regarding Reduce number of vandalism warning levels which you might be interested to join the discussion. cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 22:17, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA - Thanks for the heads up and for letting me know about this proposal - I appreciate it a lot! I've responded and added my input to the discussion. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:38, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Query
How long does it take for MediaWiki to log me out automatically?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 23:31, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - I don't have an exact answer for that, but I know that it depends on whether or not you ticked the "keep me logged in" checkbox when you logged into Wikipedia on each particular machine, whether or not you regularly (or automatically) wipe your browser cache and cookies, if you change your password (doing so logs you out of Wikipedia on all other browser sessions), as well as other variables. Assuming a perfect environment where your browser cache is not wiped and your cookies always remain until they expire, I know that ticking the "keep me logged in" checkbox will keep your account logged in for up to a year until it expires and logs you out automatically. It goes without saying, but you should obviously not tick that checkbox when logging into Wikipedia while using a computer that isn't exclusively yours and that others also use - especially on public computers. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:38, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Replied. Thanks! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:24, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
A Duracell For You!
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Trust me, you need it one day... Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:01, 29 December 2018 (UTC) |
- Thegooduser - LOL... I need it one day? Why is that? :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:12, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Because SQL set your block expiry to 1975 or something like that. LOL --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:15, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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- TheSandDoctor - Received and replied. Thanks for the email! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:32, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Some Additions to Ashley Artus - Wikipedia & Copyright
Wikipedia & Copyright
Hi Oshwah, luv your hair btw !
Do I take from the message that the problem is with the pic - yes ?
This is the first time I have ever done a Wiki page and has been both fascinating & challenging ! (and epic!)
That all said I need your help please !
The pic in question has been emailed to me by Ashley Artus (who owns the photo and the copyright) which he paid MUG Photography for and that the pic can be used in the public domain. Ashley Artus owns the photo and the copyright. He has given me permission which I have in an email, he is happy for me to use the picture on his profile for WIKIpedia as it is now in the public domain & free...
Where do we go from here?
What steps do I need to take next please ?
Many thanks in adavance.
Andy
AndycBtn (talk) 04:27, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi AndycBtn! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your explanation and your questions. I'll be happy to answer them and help point you in a good direction to get yourself started on the easiest path possible so that you can learn the ropes and become familiar with how things work around here. I did notice that the image you added to the article was deleted and that you were talked to regarding its copyright and license, but my message to you didn't involve the picture. After reviewing the article you created and the content you added to it, I noticed that some content was added by copying it directly from one or two external sources. This method of pulling information and citing from references and sources is not good to do, as this represents plagiarism and can be a very serious matter depending on what's being copied. Instead of doing this, you should pull information and cite content from other sources by paraphrasing the text. Make sure to actually cite the source in-line with your changes as well.
- Since you're new here, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you spend time making any more edits or changes. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be helpful to you. Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and it led to them being saved hours (if not over a day's worth) of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. Please don't hesitate to leave me a message if you have any questions, get stuck anywhere, or if you need help with anything. I'll be happy to lend you a hand! Again, I welcome you to Wikipedia and I hope you enjoy your stay. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:44, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Please monitor Zakchief20
Hello Oshwah, can you please review my placement of a {{uw-vandalism4im}} at Zakchief20 (talk · contribs)'s talk page? Afaicr, this is the first time I've skipped four uw levels and gone straight to 4im. If you think it was harsh, please feel free to downgrade. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 08:27, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Mathglot! I personally would've added a level 2 or maybe a level 3 warning in this situation myself, but what you did was certainly not a misuse of the warning template or by any means a terrible or bad action to take. I usually keep 4im warnings in my back pocket for users that haven't been warned before (otherwise, use a level 4 for final warnings) and in cases where they cause highly disruptive or edits that severely and blatantly violate policy in bad faith. Examples are edits that are blatant and grossly offensive, insulting, or degrading edits that need revision deletion such as unambiguous racism or voicing support to kill or extinguish all people of a certain race or belief (such as transgender or LGBT groups, or something similar), threats to harm people, adding blatant BLP violations and libel to BLP articles, or if sock puppetry or editing while logged out is suspected - things that fit into that high level of severe vandalism, disruption, deception or block evasion. ;-) Other than that, you did the right thing; the edit was certainly vandalism and you reverted the edit and warned the user. Oh well; the user knows what he/she did and they now know that we know. ;-) Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions, need additional input or feedback on other edits, or if you just need help with anything - I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. I hope you had a great holiday season and that your New Year is both memorable and safe. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:41, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks; what you say about keeping it for revdel cases with extreme violations makes sense. I'll do that in future. In the meantime, do you think I should throttle this back to a 2 or 3, or just let it be now?
- Btw: I did seek out guidance at Template:Uw4im/doc and here but didn't find any, so used my best judgment (which turned out not to be that great). If there isn't already, I think there ought to be a section of guidance for usage of the different levels somewhere, with maybe a link from every Multi-level template doc page "See also" section, to the guidance section. Thanks for the offer of help, and have a great holiday season and New Year! Mathglot (talk) 02:03, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi again Mathglot! That's good that you tried referring to the documentation for guidelines on when to use this warning level, and I think that your idea is a very good one. What may make such a guidance section become complicated is simply the numerous amount of situations that occur on Wikipedia where a level 4im might be appropriate - I'd imagine such a guideline quickly becoming large in size and detail... lol :-)
- Nah, I'd just leave the template you left as-is; there's no need to go back and change it. The edit was clearly bad faith vandalism and by a user whose intentions are definitely not to contribute positively to the encyclopedia. I'm much less inclined to care about the right warning that's left in blatant cases like these. I wouldn't worry about it at all. ;-) Thanks for the holiday wishes! I hope your holiday was fun and stress-free, and that you have a memorable and safe New Years. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:58, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Greetings
Thank you for your suggestion. I edited something which is general. Before, During and after the Guinea independence, Guinea music has known a lot of changes. That's why I edited in that way. Another thing is this is my first time to edit any article on Wikipedia. With the help us the course I am taken on Coursera I discovered today that the user can contribute to the Wikipedia content. Kindly guide my regarding the edition process. Thank you
Albert — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albert Siba Touama Guemou (talk • contribs) 18:01, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Albert Siba Touama Guemou! Welcome to Wikipedia! Don't worry about the issues with your edit to Guinea; you're new here and mistakes and edits that aren't perfect are completely normal and expected until you become familiar with how things work around here. So long as you're editing in good faith, mistakes are not something that we'll go after you for. :-) Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial and before you do any large edits that involve content creation or expansion. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be helpful to you. Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and it led to them being saved hours (if not over a day's worth) of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. Please don't hesitate to leave me a message if you have any questions, get stuck anywhere, or if you need help with anything. I'll be happy to lend you a hand! Again, I welcome you to Wikipedia and I hope you enjoy your stay. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:05, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Don't worry, I hated myself for writing it
[26] AGK ■ 18:18, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- AGK - LOL. I bet you did... XD! Oh well, as long as it's gramatically correct, that's what's important... even though that looks completely wrong to me when I just look at it... :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:20, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Wikiemirati
Oshwa can you leave a message on Wikiemirati's talk page that there is a discussion about him on [[27]]. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mountain157 (talk • contribs) 18:19, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Mountain157 -
Done. By the way, doing this is very easy - the instructions for notifying the user is located on the very top of the noticeboard page. You literally just copy and paste the text that it provides you. ;-) Good luck, and I hope things work out and come to a positive and peaceful conclusion either way - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:27, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Response to the comment you made while closing my protection request for Baked Alaska (entertainer)
It's a mischaracterization to describe my change as "unilateral" when several other editors have removed the "neo-Nazi" description saying it was unsourced, which it was. I also feel it unfair to describe insisting on sourcing contentious accusations as "edit warring", while ignoring the two other editors' reinsertion of the claim despite lacking sourcing. If anyone wants to report me because they want to preserve a faulty contentious claim in a WP:BLP I'm happy to have that discussion, though. --notJackhorkheimer (talk / contribs) 18:54, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi notJackhorkheimer, and thanks for messaging me here with your input about the protection request discussion and for providing your honest feedback about my response. I commend you for being honest and coming straight to me to talk to me about this. Re-reading my response, I do need to apologize to you: I didn't mean for it to imply that you were causing any wrong-doing with your individual changes - they were definitely unsourced edits, and the word "neo-nazi" (at least to me) would almost imply a neutral point of view issue (it's like saying that someone is a "hillbilly" or a "tree-hugger"; the names themselves can imply a point of view and how the person is perceived as). What I meant to say was that the dispute was over content and the recent edits showed a "one-vs-many" form of potential edit warring. I didn't see that this had been previously reverted before, else I wouldn't had called it this and I wouldn't have declined the request you made. I meant to say that if others have an issue with your removals and if they want to take you to AN3, let em. Let the issue get reported there and the matter be looked into. I didn't look into your attempts to discuss the issue on any talk page, but assuming that you've tried to do so, I think you'd be in the right if a report was filed. Because I didn't notice that this content was reverted before and by other people (not just you), I went ahead and applied the full protection as you requested. Please accept my apology for not seeing that this was an ongoing issue before you stepped in to revert the changes, and for the response I made that inadvertently implied that you were in the wrong. If you have any more questions, concerns, feedback, or comments for me, please don't hesitate to respond here and let me know, and I'll be happy to discuss it with you and work with you to make things right. I hope that my response here clarified the issues and better explained my thinking and what I was trying to convey in my response to your request. My user talk page is always open to you, and you're welcome to message me and leave me honest input, thoughts, and feedback - even if they disagree or if you believe that something I've done was improper, wrong, or careless. I'd rather hear it from you and with your honest thoughts, than have you not say anything at all. I won't hold it against you at all. I hope you have a great rest of your day and I wish you happy editing. Thanks again for talking to me about this. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:35, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for being thoughtful and open to self-reflection. I know that RFP isn't the best venue for more finely grained disputes (given the cartloads of flagrant vandalism that have to be dealt with) but I felt a call for protection was warranted given the contentiousness of the claims. I do still find the page as you locked it problematic, but at least it's sourced now, although I find it lacking the quality and type of sources to make the claim authoritatively--the recent edits have evolved from no source to the claim, to sources that refer generally to neo-Nazis in the headline, yet use different descriptions for Baked Alaska (entertainer) in the article itself. Now there is at least a source that makes the claim, although I don't feel the AV Club to be sufficient, but if you're fine with letting the page rest as-is I defer to your judgment, I just wanted to point that out to you. There was a similar dispute last year on the same page with the same editors that played out similarly, only then it was the term "white nationalist" which wasn't sourced. Similarly the other editors insisted there was a source for the claim "out there somewhere" but wouldn't be more specific when pressed. The page eventually settled without the "white nationalist" claim, so I was chagrined to find that the page with the same sources as before had "neo-Nazi" appellation added by an anonymous editor without citation, then replaced several times when other editors tried to remove it. In any case I'm considering opening a WP:BLPN, both because I frankly find some of the editing being done to be appalling or at least cavalier, and I'd like to get more people's input on both the editing being done and what they think the sourcing standards are and whether they're being met. --notJackhorkheimer (talk / contribs) 03:56, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi notJackhorkheimer! Thanks for following up here, for understanding what I was trying to say in my RFPP response, and for pointing out the edits from the past that I didn't see. Sure, no problem! I'm always open to feedback and self-evaluating my edits, actions, and decisions. It's the right thing to do, and for the benefit of this project and the community. :-)
- Yeah... I noticed that some of the content was restored when I applied full protection to the article and that it included some references. As the protecting administrator, I actually can't modify the article and change it to a preferred revision (despite what many editors think). I can only modify the article to remove blatant vandalism or resolve violations of policy (such as WP:COPYVIO, WP:BLP, and other important policies). Otherwise, I'd be seen as taking a side in the dispute and making edits in order to favor one editor's revision over another. If the article's current revision doesn't violate policy, once I shut the gate and with a gold lock slapped onto it - that is it, man... I don't get to go do what I please to it and "choose a revision I think is best" while everybody else stands helplessly and watches. That would just add more complications, issues, and frustration to mix and that's not productive or helpful to anybody. I'm aware and have seen some administrators restore or revert an article to a revision after they apply full protection to it, but they're not supposed to be doing that. Anyways, I appreciate the heads up and that you expressed your concerns regarding the article's current revision - it's always nice to have a second pair of eyes checking the article in case I miss something.
- I hope the protection applied motivates everyone involved to discuss the issue, and that the discussion comes to a peaceful and successful close. Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions or need my assistance with anything. I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. Good luck, and I wish you happy editing and discussing. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for being thoughtful and open to self-reflection. I know that RFP isn't the best venue for more finely grained disputes (given the cartloads of flagrant vandalism that have to be dealt with) but I felt a call for protection was warranted given the contentiousness of the claims. I do still find the page as you locked it problematic, but at least it's sourced now, although I find it lacking the quality and type of sources to make the claim authoritatively--the recent edits have evolved from no source to the claim, to sources that refer generally to neo-Nazis in the headline, yet use different descriptions for Baked Alaska (entertainer) in the article itself. Now there is at least a source that makes the claim, although I don't feel the AV Club to be sufficient, but if you're fine with letting the page rest as-is I defer to your judgment, I just wanted to point that out to you. There was a similar dispute last year on the same page with the same editors that played out similarly, only then it was the term "white nationalist" which wasn't sourced. Similarly the other editors insisted there was a source for the claim "out there somewhere" but wouldn't be more specific when pressed. The page eventually settled without the "white nationalist" claim, so I was chagrined to find that the page with the same sources as before had "neo-Nazi" appellation added by an anonymous editor without citation, then replaced several times when other editors tried to remove it. In any case I'm considering opening a WP:BLPN, both because I frankly find some of the editing being done to be appalling or at least cavalier, and I'd like to get more people's input on both the editing being done and what they think the sourcing standards are and whether they're being met. --notJackhorkheimer (talk / contribs) 03:56, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thanks for all your help at IRC. RhinosF1 (talk) 20:47, 29 December 2018 (UTC) |
- RhinosF1! Thanks for the message and for the barnstar! You're welcome, man... always happy to help. I notice that you keep disconnecting and reconnecting - are you having connectivity issues? I hope you know that you're more than welcome to idle in the #wikipedia-en channel; you don't have to leave each time just because you're not currently chatting or asking questions. We don't bite... lol :-) I'm available and happy to help should you have any more questions or need more help. You know where to find me. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:50, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- It seems to disconnect on my phone anyway if I leave the tab open on the background but if on my Chromebook then I do leave it idle as that doesn't have the same issue. RhinosF1 (talk) 20:52, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- RhinosF1 - Ah, that's it... you're using your mobile phone to connect to IRC. Depending on your region, carrier, and the mobile device you're using, there are idling policies when it comes to applications and data usage. Applications that go into the background will typically not be able to use data unless the app developer also creates a service that can run in the background. Carriers will also mandate when devices should changes modes regarding data usage (I wrote an article all about this here.. lol). Basically, it's all meant to save data usage and battery live on mobile devices. If you don't want the trouble of continuously dealing with a browser tab and re-connecting to IRC, there are great stand-alone IRC apps that work very well that will be better for you. I use AndroIRC for Google Android, and I can find someone to recommend an app if you have an iOS device. Again, I'm happy to have you around and I appreciate your diligence and your excellent work on Wikipedia. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:02, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- It's iOS RhinosF1 (talk) 22:08, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- RhinosF1 - From what I'm hearing other editors on IRC say just now, IRCCloud has an iOS app that you can download and use to connect. That's the app they recommend that will resolve your connectivity issues. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:23, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) (edit conflict) @RhinosF1: I would recommend IRCCloud for mobile devices. IRCCloud acts like a bouncer where IRCCloud's servers connect to IRC for you and then relay to your device the messages it receives. Even if you only get a free account, the two hour idle times are more than sufficient for my needs and will greatly save a lot of annoying joins and quits that would otherwise occur from a mobile device connected to IRC, since the way IRC was designed means that you'll get disconnected if you so much as change your connection (like switching from mobile data to WiFi). IRCCloud can also be accessed from any desktop computer, and everything is kept in sync from there, which is why I recommend IRCCloud for mobile despite its shortcomings. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 22:26, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- It's iOS RhinosF1 (talk) 22:08, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- RhinosF1 - Ah, that's it... you're using your mobile phone to connect to IRC. Depending on your region, carrier, and the mobile device you're using, there are idling policies when it comes to applications and data usage. Applications that go into the background will typically not be able to use data unless the app developer also creates a service that can run in the background. Carriers will also mandate when devices should changes modes regarding data usage (I wrote an article all about this here.. lol). Basically, it's all meant to save data usage and battery live on mobile devices. If you don't want the trouble of continuously dealing with a browser tab and re-connecting to IRC, there are great stand-alone IRC apps that work very well that will be better for you. I use AndroIRC for Google Android, and I can find someone to recommend an app if you have an iOS device. Again, I'm happy to have you around and I appreciate your diligence and your excellent work on Wikipedia. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:02, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- It seems to disconnect on my phone anyway if I leave the tab open on the background but if on my Chromebook then I do leave it idle as that doesn't have the same issue. RhinosF1 (talk) 20:52, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
PIC Query
Hi Oshwah further to your message the other day...I need some help with uploading a photo.
The photo itself is "owned" by Ashley Artus who paid MUG Photography for the photo and then sent it to me via email.
In the email Ashley has given me permission to use the photo as it is in the public domain now and is free to use.
How do I upload the pic on the page ?
Many thanks,
Andy
AndycBtn (talk) 21:29, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi again AndycBtn! Great question! So, if the owner of the photo wants to donate it to Wikipedia for us to use in the encyclopedia, they just need to contact us and give us permission to use it. Simply have the owner of the image contact Wikipedia's volunteer response team by emailing photosubmission@wikimedia.org. Make sure that they follow the instructions provided to them, and you'll be all set - easy peasy! :-) Please let me know if you have any more questions of if you need assistance with anything else, and I'll be happy to help. I hope you have a great rest of your day and I wish you happy editing. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:06, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
HG
My HG user warnings left are not showing in my user contributions. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:30, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - This is most likely done on purpose. By default, if a user was recently just warned for a previous edit they just made, Huggle will not leave a warning for a subsequent edit until at least a moment or two passes by. This is so that editors who make changes quickly aren't suddenly surprised with 3 or 4 warnings left on their user talk page in less than a minute and before they've had a chance to read them and understand what they did wrong. This is an option that can be disabled, but I don't recommend that you do so. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:12, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- But When I click on "Reverted edits by (Username or IP)" and I click on (Username or Ip)'s talk page, the warning with my signature is left there right away with nothing logging in my contributions.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:14, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Can you link me to an example where this happened so I can take a look? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:18, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- here --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:21, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - I can confirm with 100% certainty that the revert you made to the article and warning you left on the IP's user talk page both have diff links (here and here) and are both present in your contribution history. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:28, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- here --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:21, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Can you link me to an example where this happened so I can take a look? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:18, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- But When I click on "Reverted edits by (Username or IP)" and I click on (Username or Ip)'s talk page, the warning with my signature is left there right away with nothing logging in my contributions.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:14, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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It's Really Important. Thanks. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:30, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Received and taken care of. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:09, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Rule34.patheal.net article
The site was launched on April 24th 2007 by Wiiaboo and Rokoo, with an image of Nikki from 6teen topless, which was uploaded by the latter.
I would really like to know if this would make a good page on the Website, seeing that it is a hotspot for cartoon porn and such. Virtually every fictional character on the planet from Randall Boggs to Euromaus has at least 1-2 entries on the popular image sharing site, and many of the artists can be considered famous as well, including Biohazard.furholt.net, nev, Jerseydevil, The Yellow Cephalopod, Weaselgrease, Annie Mae, Sue Dunn Em, Raylude, and Em.
So what do think? Should the site get its own page, it’s popular, it’s got good talent, it’s got popular cartoon characters, and it’s been around for about 11-12 years now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Atlantic Ranter 9705! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your questions regarding the process of creating, expanding, and keeping an article on Wikipedia. I'll be happy to answer them and point you to our guidelines so that you can review and understand them. Wikipedia's process regarding the deletion of articles is to research and conclude whether or not the particular article subject meets Wikipedia's policies and guidelines on notability. This determines whether or not an article should be kept or not. In short, for something to be eligible to be included into Wikipedia as its own article, it must meet Wikipedia's general notability guidelines. Since what you're referring to here is a company and website, it also must meet Wikipedia's guidelines regarding the notability of companies as well. I highly recommend that you review these guidelines I linked you to here, and let me know if you have any questions about anything on those pages. I'll be happy to answer them if you do. I hope you have a great day, and I wish you good luck and happy editing. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:37, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Ok
Ok... point taken. I appreciate your role as a check on the silliness here. Respect ✊
Kissyanus (talk) 00:30, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Kissyanus - HA! I appreciate that. ;-) I have to enforce the policies regarding user pages and what's not allowed on them. Sorry man, but someone's gotta do it. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:39, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Help a noob?
I want to share actual info on my own band and others that I have first hand knowledge of. How do I stay inbounds when detail is not readily verifiable by web search?
My page was a total goof, but my first hand knowledge of current bands and artists in NYC is no joke.
How can I participate without running afoul of wiki standards? Serious question. Kissyanus (talk) 01:48, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hi! I thought I would jump in with a quick comment... I would try to dissuade you from making edits directed at your own biographical information. Let your fans write about you... It promises to be MUCH more interesting! As far as adding material about other bands from your firsthand knowledge, PLEASE BE AWARE of the notability guidelines and most importantly- You MUST provide citations from reliable and verifiable sources when making new additions to the Wikipedia. Regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 06:16, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Thank you for the continued assistance! :)
Snowycats (talk) 02:29, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Snowycats - You bet; always happy to help. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:36, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Change username
Hi Oshwah,
I am want to change my current username to TheIndividual95 can you please help me? Juan199525 (talk) 05:22, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Please see Wikipedia:Changing username ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 05:24, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- TheIndividual95 - Sure,
Done. Make sure that you log into your account using your new username. Else, you'll get an "invalid username/password" error. Let me know if I can do anything else for you and I'll be happy to help. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:32, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
My user page information
Ok , i know i shuddent of put that stuff on my wikapedea user article , but it would of been nice if you warned me before you was going to remove it , because all of that stuff was coming from the mind and not just from a book , but fair enough . but could you at least give some advice were i can actually show my ideas on? thanks.
--Orengi Harvey (talk) 08:58, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Orengi Harvey! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your question. I understand that you put time into creating the content on your user page, but it's not Wikipedia-related and hence is not in compliance with Wikipedia's policies on user pages and the intended use of Wikipedia. There are many other websites that you can use to host your personal ideas and content. You could start a blog, social media website, or (if you enjoy building things yourself) purchase your own domain and then have a custom website designed. There are many places where you can host this content, but unfortunately it cannot be hosted here. This is not what Wikipedia and what user pages are for. I noticed that you reverted the change to your user page and restored the inappropriate content; I've removed it again so that your user page is in compliance with policy. Please do not restore it. You can visit the article's history page if you need to retrieve the content to copy it over to a different website. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you good luck with finding an appropriate place for this content. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:12, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Help needed
Hi Osh, good day and I need help :(. I should have taken a few computer programming courses in university for I would not feel so lost and helpless and working some years in a software company did not help either for the software engineers were so kind and nice and they just did everything for me instead of teaching me - well I was in the business unit an not the technical department . See here - need to install wikidata and and aliases script. The link provided (I think is this one [28]) looks alien to me and I have no idea how to install it of what to do with it. Could you help or advise PLEASE. Thanks in advance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:37, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi CASSIOPEIA! You came to the right place! I'm a software engineer by career and I'm also an interface editor, so I can definitely help you out here. :-) Let me take a look at the documentation, and I'll get back to you shortly with a follow-up response. Stand by... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:39, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA - This looks like a very easy installation. I just need to add a line of code to your common.js file and you should be all set. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:42, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA -
Done. Let me know how it goes and if the script is working for you. If you're still having issues with what you're trying to do, let me know and I'll be happy to help you further. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:46, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Osh, Oh, what he was trying to tell me was just copy and paste the line onto my common.js, and I was looking at the script wondering what to do with it. Now I feel silly but grateful of your help. You are God sent! a BIG thank!!! happy new year Osh and it seems is in the early morning for you there and you are still up. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA - No problem; always happy to lend a hand! I appreciate your kind words and your gratitude - thank you very much. :-) Yup, it's 3:17 AM local time where I'm at right now... Good times ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:17, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- So Osh, you reside in Pacific standard time zone I guess. Night owl you are. :) Good Night, oh no, Good Morning. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:23, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA - You are correct! I currently reside on the west coast. Like the motto says: "West coast, best coast"! ;-) It's a pleasure (as always) to talk to you again, and I hope we keep in touch and run into one another again soon. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:35, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- So Osh, you reside in Pacific standard time zone I guess. Night owl you are. :) Good Night, oh no, Good Morning. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:23, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA - No problem; always happy to lend a hand! I appreciate your kind words and your gratitude - thank you very much. :-) Yup, it's 3:17 AM local time where I'm at right now... Good times ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:17, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Osh, Oh, what he was trying to tell me was just copy and paste the line onto my common.js, and I was looking at the script wondering what to do with it. Now I feel silly but grateful of your help. You are God sent! a BIG thank!!! happy new year Osh and it seems is in the early morning for you there and you are still up. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA -
- CASSIOPEIA - This looks like a very easy installation. I just need to add a line of code to your common.js file and you should be all set. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:42, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
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Thank you Osh - always so helpful!
CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:33, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- CASSIOPEIA - Sure, of course! I'm always happy to help. Please don't hesitate to stop by if I can be of any assistance to you with anything else. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:36, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Are you sure your edit to this article to tidy it up, didn't accidentally remove a chunk of substantive content? Dolive21 (talk) 13:02, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Dolive21! Umm... I was pretty certain of that.... that is, until I saw your message here. :-) Let me finish up an urgent matter that I'm currently handling, and I'll take another look and see what happened. :-) Thanks for the message and the heads up about this. I'll follow-up with you here shortly. Stand by... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:09, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Dolive21 - Sorry about that; I was in the middle of an urgent matter that needed my full attention, and I also had an important message that I needed to finish and give to an editor. Looking at the changes made to the Flag article here, it removes all of the whitespace and formatting best practices that are used in order to make the article easy for others to contribute and add to. This why I reverted that change made by the IP user. The edit made by the IP user didn't add any content to the article that became removed when I reverted it, the edit actually removed content from the article that my revert restored shortly afterwards. If you have any questions or further concerns regarding this article, please let me know and I'll be happy to discuss this with you further. The IP has been blocked for vandalism, so it's highly unlikely that any content that was added to the article by this user was constructive. Thanks again for the message and for your patience. I hope you have a great day and I wish you happy editing and a memorable and safe New Years. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:00, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Clearly I was mistaken. I think I must have confused material reinserted by your edit with material removed by it.Dolive21 (talk) 14:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Dolive21 - No worries... it happens to everyone at some point and it's not a big deal. ;-) I'd much rather you come to me directly and express concerns over an edit I may have reverted incorrectly just to find out that it was correct, than to have you say nothing at all for one reason or anther and have an incorrect or bad revision that I made be live on the encyclopedia... so I appreciate your message regardless of whether or not anybody was correct or incorrect about it. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:54, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Clearly I was mistaken. I think I must have confused material reinserted by your edit with material removed by it.Dolive21 (talk) 14:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Dolive21 - Sorry about that; I was in the middle of an urgent matter that needed my full attention, and I also had an important message that I needed to finish and give to an editor. Looking at the changes made to the Flag article here, it removes all of the whitespace and formatting best practices that are used in order to make the article easy for others to contribute and add to. This why I reverted that change made by the IP user. The edit made by the IP user didn't add any content to the article that became removed when I reverted it, the edit actually removed content from the article that my revert restored shortly afterwards. If you have any questions or further concerns regarding this article, please let me know and I'll be happy to discuss this with you further. The IP has been blocked for vandalism, so it's highly unlikely that any content that was added to the article by this user was constructive. Thanks again for the message and for your patience. I hope you have a great day and I wish you happy editing and a memorable and safe New Years. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:00, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Page Deletion
You deleted my page, which seems strange, as the tutorial/walkthrough asked that I add some basic information about myself to it. The reason of "Wikipedia is not a blog, web hosting service, social networking service, or memorial site" doesn't seem relevant to me. Can you explain, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrownBearRunning (talk • contribs) 13:58, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi BrownBearRunning! So... I'm an idiot. I had your user page open in a tab next to the user page that I was intending to delete, got distracted with something urgent and had to put things down and switch around to other tabs, and when I came back to delete the user page that needed to be removed - I accidentally deleted yours. Please excuse my stupidity and forgive me for the mistake. I've of course restored your user page back to what it was before, and I hope that I didn't cause any frustration or hardship upon you. Please let me know if you have any questions or further concerns, and I'll be happy to help you. Thanks for the message and for bringing this to my attention, and I hope you have a great day and happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:07, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Systematic birthdate disruption
Hi Oshwah, I would like to warn about an IP hopper anonymous user that is systematically changing birthdates (and other dates) of various ukranian personalities. Check the chronology of the articles Viktor Yushchenko, Viktor Yanukovych, Olexiy Poroshenko, Maryna Poroshenko or Leonid Kuchma for example. They started a couple of days ago and frequently change the IP. At the moment I undid the malicious edits (I already did it several times) and I hope they will not do it again but in case they will restart, may be a different approach may prove more effective. Just wanted to warn an administrator about that. Horst Hof (talk) 15:39, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Horst Hof, and thanks for leaving me a message here about these articles and regarding your concerns with recent changes being made to them. I took a look at each one, and I agree that there's a likelihood of collaborative disruption and to the same data. I went and applied various levels of page protection and with a duration I felt was appropriate and proportional to the rate of disruption being added to each one. This will be the best way to resolve the manner for now given the the diverse IP addresses and ranges involved. Please let me know if I can provide any more assistance with anything else, and I'll be happy to do so. Thanks again for the message, and I hope you have a great rest of your weekend. :-) Happy editing! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:03, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Final Decision
Oshwah has a final decision been made about what to do about Mar4d?Thank You.- User:Mountain157 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:26, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Mountain157 - I haven't followed up with the discussion since at least yesterday. If I remember correctly, the ANI discussion was still open and ongoing when I last checked. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:28, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Just want to express my gratitude and awe at the way you conduct yourself here: the way you always assume good faith, always are pleasant, always willing to help, and just seem to know what to say. TelosCricket (talk) 20:39, 30 December 2018 (UTC) |
- Hi TelosCricket! Thanks for the barnstar and the very kind words. Seriously, they mean a lot to me and they make me happy and proud to be a member of the community here. I always try my best to do all the things that I do on Wikipedia in order to lead by example and with the hopes that I'll make at least somewhat of an impact to this project at least a few others around here... do I actually do so? I don't know. But I like to think that I do... lol ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:50, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Query
Why are some accounts registered here not registered in Simple English Wikipedia? --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:52, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - When someone registers an account on a Wikimedia project such as the English Wikipedia or Spanish Wikitionary, a local account is created, as well as global account on a central host in order to control and synchronize the information between the local accounts. Local accounts are automatically created on each Wikimedia project as you visit a page there for the very first time. It does this by using the information from the global account. The reason that some accounts will show up in logs here and not on other Wikimedia project logs is simply because the user hasn't visited that project yet. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:57, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
HG
How can I find vandalism on Huggle? --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:05, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- There are some great instructions located here that'll show you how. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:07, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Received and replied. Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:01, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Thegooduser - You only need to notify me once if you're going to send an email... lol. I'll have my eyes on my inbox and I'll see right away when you respond. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:02, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Oshwah!
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Oshwah,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 02:49, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
- Hi Rubbish computer! I just wanted to respond and thank you for the new years wishes. I appreciate it a lot! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:13, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Happy New Year
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Oshwah,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Donner60 (talk) 04:25, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
- Hi Donner60! Thank you for the new years wishesl I appreciate it a lot! :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:13, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Oshwah!
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Oshwah,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 05:41, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
- Thanks for being a caring friend and encouraging me to apologise to Vauxford. You have made my life a lot easier and I really want to see you soon --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 05:43, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi EurovisionNim! I appreciated your new years wishes here! No problem; it's part of my duties and responsibilities as an editor, and I'm happy to have been able to help you out. Until we speak again... ;-) - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:15, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Page Protection Inquiry
Hello!
I appreciate you protecting WayV as it was going through a spam of vandalism by a IP user. I was trying to get it under control but someone else already put in the request to have that user blocked. Anyhow, that hasn't stopped them as they have now moved over to NCT (band) to create the same issue. I'm not the best when it comes to submitting request for things such as page protection, etc. I was wondering if you would be able to put a semi protection on that article as it already has an inquiry for it on it's talk page and has been going through vandalism for a while. Thank loveOhmyfifthharmony (talk) 05:55, 31 December 2018 (UTC)Ohmyfifthharmony
- Hi Ohmyfifthharmony! No worries; the protection request you made in your message here was plenty good enough, and I've added semi protection to the article for one week. Let me know if disruption continues to occur and I'll be happy to step in and do what's needed in order to put a kibosh to it. Thanks again for the message and your request, and I hope you have a memorable and safe New Years. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:20, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Copyright violation
Missing permission. Images directly downloaded from online sites and attributed incorrectly to the downloaded sites who themselves are not the copyright owners. 2405:204:D10D:3E13:D967:40DB:F96C:31A3 (talk) 14:56, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for the message and for letting me know. I'll make sure that the matter is looked into and handled appropriately. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:43, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
IP Addresses that appears to be a sock
Can you block IP addresses 5.36.34.41, 5.36.68.92, and 5.21.202.196. These are clearly the same users and they all come from the same location in Muscat,Oman.-Mountain157 (talk) 11:16 31 December 2018 —Preceding undated comment added 16:16, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Mountain157 - I see that these IP addresses have edited the same articles between them, but do you know if this is a continuation of block evasion and disruption by other IP addresses or user accounts? What brought this matter to your attention in the first place? I'm just trying to get some more context and information from a "big picture" perspective so that I can start looking into the matter from the right direction and do so thoroughly and completely. Let me know when you can, and I'll be able to see how far back this may potentially go. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:47, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for responding. In this case, it is a continuation of a block evasion by HassanGuy[[31]] [[32]]-Mountain157 (talk) 1:09 31 December 2018 —Preceding undated comment added 18:10, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Mountain157 - I'm just following up with your request for assistance here. I'll continue to investigate and monitor things on my end. If you run into any more disruption by users that you believe involve or are connected to this possible case, let me know. Thanks again for the messages and for reporting your concerns, and I hope that your new years celebration was both memorable and safe. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:21, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for responding. In this case, it is a continuation of a block evasion by HassanGuy[[31]] [[32]]-Mountain157 (talk) 1:09 31 December 2018 —Preceding undated comment added 18:10, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Jessica Folcker
Can you please fix the page issues of Jessica Folcker in Wikipedia? I really don't know what's with it. Thank you! Icegalaxysyj (talk) 17:13, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Icegalaxysyj, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your request for help. Are you referring to the tables located in a section near the bottom of the articles? I also noticed that they were missing information and rendering in a default, left-justified manner. Let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:50, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
No subject
My change is accurate. Please read what the link says. It says tens of crores, there is no specific figure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.78.198.250 (talk) 17:19, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here regarding my removal of your edit to List of highest-grossing Bengali films. As I detailed in the edit summary of my latest edit to the list page: What you added was an editorial comment that should be added and discussed here on the article's talk page. Talk pages are were discussions and comments like these should be left so that other editors can read them, respond and add information, and work to resolve the concerns at-hand. Please refer to the link I provided above to visit the article's talk page and add the comment and concern you expressed in the article earlier. If you have any questions or need any help, let me know and I'll be happy to do so. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:57, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Joe Azbell
Please allow my revisions to stand, as I am his great granddaughter with his daughter sitting right next to me, telling me his information. I don't care if this isn't the correct formatting. I corrected inaccuracies caused by people who've most likely never met him nor knew him nor related to him. If you do not replace everything I spent time talking with my grandmother, his eldest child, I will do so again. And we'll just keep going on this page no one else cares about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArcheryPrincess23 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi ArcheryPrincess23, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your explanation and your thoughts regarding the edits you made to Joe Azbell. Unfortunately, your edits to this article are violating a number of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines due to a number of different reasons. First, your addition does not cite any reliable sources in-line with the content. This applies to any content added that's not common knowledge, contains exact data, dates, or is anything that will likely be challenged by other editors. This keeps all of Wikipedia's articles and content to a high level of verifiability and assures that everything we add or change here is legitimate, accurate, and open to scrutiny and peer-review by others.
- Your statements left on my user talk page mention that you have personal knowledge or know someone close to this article subject. Unfortunately, personal knowledge, relationships, experience, or information you obtained yourself is not sufficient nor can it be accepted anywhere on Wikipedia. This information constitutes original research and is not allowed on Wikipedia. For the same reasons I explained above, original research cannot be verified or authenticated for accuracy or legitimacy at all. Information must be accompanied by a reliable source and where citing such sources is necessary.
- I should also mention that, due to what appears to be a personal relationship or knowledge of the article subject, you have a clear conflict of interest with this subject area, and you should not be making any kind of edits to articles or pages where such a conflict of interest is present. It compromises the article and the neutrality of its content when people who are close to the subject personally make changes to it.
- Hence, given the information I've provided here, I'm going to have to remove any content and information from the article that does not comply with policy, and it will include most of the information you added to it. This is not done because I want to give you a hard time and cause you frustration; it's done because this is what's required in order to make sure that all content complies with policy and is neutrally worded, and is verifiable for accuracy and legitimacy. One more thing I also need to mention: you absolutely positively cannot add your personal contact information to any articles or pages here, nor should you do this on any public website and pages like that. That's a very, very bad idea; I seriously cannot stress or emphasize this enough to you... please don't do that. :-)
- If you have any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to respond and let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. I hope you understand why Wikipedia has these policies and guidelines, and that you understand that they're in-place in order to keep Wikipedia honest, accurate, and fair. Otherwise, we wouldn't be the #5 most visited website in the world, and we probably wouldn't even be talking to one another right now. :-) I hope that you have a great rest of your day and I wish you good luck and a happy New Years :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:41, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Joe Azbell
I am Joe Azbell's great-granddaughter and I have my grandmother, his oldest child, sitting next to me. If you don't mind, please replace everything you've edited out. This means a great deal to me for the information to be correct. If it doesn't follow Wikipedia guidelines, then make MY information in correct form or delete the page entirely. It is full of biological misinformation and I have the means to correct it. Please re-do everything what you have deleted or take the page down. ArcheryPrincess23 (talk) 17:32, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Please refer to the response I left above to your original message here. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:45, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Machen RFC
Hi I received a message stating that I have not referenced a change to the Machen RFC page - however the changes I made are in relation to the current coaches at the Club so no reference is available
Kind Regards
Alex — Preceding unsigned comment added by Machen1871 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Machen1871, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns. Are you for absolute certain that no references are available at all to verify or find out who the active coach of this team is? Most notable sports teams, when changing, releasing, or bringing on a new coach will have an article written about this by least one news provider. Because this information doesn't appear to be referenced by any sources (regardless as to whether or not the changes you made are kept), I went ahead and removed this information completely so that it's not potentially inaccurate and we can take our time to focus on location a valid source. Please let me know if you continue to run into difficulty locating any sources to support the changes, and I'll be happy to help. Thanks for the message, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:58, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Joe Azbell
My source is his eldest child. Please re-do everything you've deleted. And add her as the source. She has first -hand information that cannot be cited as a book or a hyperlink. She is a daughter of Joe Azbell. Those edits took me awhile to do so if you please re-do it and not delete it, do so. Please contact me for any further confirmation is necessary. [REDACTED]ArcheryPrincess23 (talk) 17:40, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Please refer to the response I left above and under your original message. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:23, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Esja, mountain in Iceland
Good evening,
you seem to be editing out my change about mountain Esja in Iceland. I quickly ran through your bio and did not see any connection to Iceland. Who are you to delete edits to a geographical location you may never have been to and know nothing about? The name of the mountain is Esja, not Esjan so your edits are simply wrong. On another note, the article should bear the name Esja and Esjan should redirect to the name Esja, not the other way around like it is today. At best, an article named Esjan should not even exist as nothing with that name does exist!
Please fix this fallacious and misleading edit of yours.
Thank you, Elias — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.40.253.48 (talk) 17:44, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there, and thank you for leaving a message here with your input, honest thoughts, and concerns. The only edit that I reverted on the Esjan article was this change, which reverted the modification you made here. By changing this word from saying "often" and to now say "incorrectly", you now have the statement implying different things and in a way that I felt did not comply with Wikipedia's policy on article content reflecting a neutral point of view. I also felt that you might have personal points of view that did not reflect neutrality and that might jeopardize the neutrality of the article's content if further changes were made to it. The fact that you referred to my revert as "fallacious and misleading" in your message above only further adds to my concerns. If what you're saying is true and if the article content really isn't referring to the maintain by the correct name, the correct thing to do is start a discussion on the article's talk page and come to a consensus among other participants that it needs to be modified. You definitely don't want to make these changes yourself, as I believe that it would be met with reverts and opposition by other editors and it could quickly and easily become an edit war or a dispute that's disruptive. If you have any questions or concerns while you're participating in this discussion, or if you have any further concerns, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks for the message, and I hope that your new years celebration was both memorable and safe. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:38, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Disruptive user
Hello can I let you know that this user has got one more warning before they are blocked, Please can you keep an eye on it. Thanks Snowstorm (u.t.c) 18:07, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Snowstorm in the arctic! Oh... you mean the user that I just blocked? No he doesn't... I think he gets to have block right now. lol ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:11, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks Oshwah, Other disruptive user blocked, keep up the good work. Snowstorm (u.t.c) 18:14, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Snowstorm in the arctic - You bet; always happy to lend a hand. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:00, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks Oshwah, Other disruptive user blocked, keep up the good work. Snowstorm (u.t.c) 18:14, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Advice
Hi mate! I am just a random fellow editor. I am still a rookie here and I want to know how much time do you spend here as an admin. Assuming you do work outside, I want to know how you do your job here efficiently. Thanks! ImmortalWizard(chat) 18:09, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi ImmortalWizard! Good question! How often I contribute and how much time I spend on Wikipedia depends on many different things: mostly depending on how busy I am, how work is going and if I'm operating under an elevated workload than usual, and what real-life obligations and other things are currently going on and if I need to spend the time I'd usually spend on Wikipedia to take care of them. Building good skills, knowledge of policy, and growing as an editor and gaining experience with everything isn't something that is obtained by putting long hours or large chunks of time into contributing to Wikipedia at one time. The kind of efficiency, experience, and overall knowledge and leadership that you're asking about requires a long-term commitment and dedication of time contributing to Wikipedia and collaborating with other editors in order to master. Over the time-span of many months to over a couple years is how you build long-term experience and skills and get them programmed into your natural habits - It's not something that you can rush. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. I hope that you had a memorable and safe new years celebration, and I wish you happy editing. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:53, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Pending changes protection
Is it possible to have pending changes protection enabled where edits from IPs as well as auto confirmed users are subject to review before going live? I was just wondering because there is a page where IPs are being subject to review, but auto confirmed users are causing problems. NoahTalk 18:17, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Hurricane Noah! Great question! This level of pending changes protection actually used to exist before, and would be used in rare cases and on articles in contentious topic areas, had discretionary sanctions authorized, and were the subject of frequent disputes, edit wars, and other disruption.
- To give you a brief history: It was referred to as "Level 2 Pending Changes" (the pending changes protection level we use today was "Level 1 Pending Changes"). Articles that were set to Level 2 pending changes protection would require all edits made by users who were not pending changes reviewers to be reviewed before they'd become live to the public. Because each of the many discussions that were held to try and propose and enact policies and guidelines with that protection level never came to any consensus, it became a protection level that nobody could use and it slowly faded into an abandoned option that eventually was removed. The reason behind its removal was mostly due to the fact that WP:30/500 came into existence and a consensus was achieved to allow us to use it openly and where appropriate under the guidelines. After this happened, most editors agreed that level 2 pending changes was something we no longer needed.
- So, yeah! ...that's the story with that pending changes level. We sued to have it, could never use it to protect pages because no policies and guidelines were enacted to allow them, and it was essentially replaced with a new protection level that we now use. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. I hope you had a memorable and safe new years celebration and I wish you happy editing. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:18, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
How am I disruptive?
I was editing and I forgot to edit some things so I went back to edit them how is that disruptive? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragoreman (talk • contribs) 20:48, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Dragoreman! As we touched on below in one of your messages to me here yesterday, the content you added to the article was reverted because they did not cite a source directly (be it a link to the official court case documentation, or to a news article or other page) that collaborated the information you added and verified it is as accurate and true. One or two of your edits contained text that included the court case information and docket number, but most of them didn't provide a reference or information to any source at all. Given the contentious nature of the content that was added, the fact that it was not properly referenced made it a serious violation of Wikipedia's biographies of living people policy, and hence were redacted and hidden from public view. This has obviously since been resolved with your latest changes to the article, but the previous revisions have to remain hidden. This is to prevent any editors from inadvertently restoring the article to a revision where this unreferenced content is present. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to discuss them with you and work with you to make sure that they're addressed. Thanks again for working with me to resolve the issue and to make sure that the content being added to the article was referenced properly. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:27, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
I don't know the basic changing rules and regulations.
First of all , I'm realy sorry sir.i don't know about changing system of any articles.can show news paper?which shall Evidence may changes. And thanks to wiki group for join me as a member. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prosanta96 (talk • contribs) 20:49, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Prosanta96, and welcome to Wikipedia! We're happy to have you as a member of the community, and we understand that you're new here and that you're not yet aware of all of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and how everything works yet, and you probably won't for at least some time. The reason I reverted your edit to Dainhat was because it added information and modified existing content and without citing any sources. Again, this is nothing to be overly worried about; you're new here and you're not aware of all of Wikipedia's policies yet. You're going to make mistakes and mess a few things up while you're learning the ropes here - that's completely normal and you won't be sanctioned or blocked if your mistakes were good faith attempts to improve the encyclopedia but had issues that you're still learning to master.
- Since you're a brand new editor to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you spend any significant amounts of time with editing articles or expanding content. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be helpful to you. By the time you finish the entire tutorial and all of the interactive lessons that it provides, you'll know and understand exactly why your edit to this article was reverted, and you'll agree with the reason for doing so. :-) Most users who take my advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and it led to them being saved hours (if not over a day's worth) of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. Please don't hesitate to leave me a message if you have any questions, get stuck anywhere, or if you need help with anything. I'll be happy to lend you a hand! Again, I welcome you to Wikipedia and I hope you enjoy your stay. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:41, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
How am I disruptive?
I was editing and I forgot to edit some things so I went back to edit them how is that disruptive? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragoreman (talk • contribs) 20:49, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Please refer to the response I left under your original message left on my user talk page above (you can go directly to that discussion by clicking here). The response I made will explain the issues that your first edits to the articles had, as well as explain why they had to be hidden from public view. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:48, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
No subject
hello and thAnk u i like in pahrump Nd my intuition is really strong i think 8 can make it happen or am i — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1:B115:470B:0:65:9EBF:7F01 (talk) 20:50, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there, and thanks for the message! I'm having some trouble understanding what you're saying and asking, but I'll assume that it involves your edit to Intuition. The reason that I reverted it was because it appeared to be an edit that was made in order to either test how things worked or just attempt to play around with the edit interface and the content (which is a perfectly normal thing to). If I'm correct in my assumption, you'l want to make all of your test edits and changes to this sandbox page. It's created and maintained for the exact purpose of testing things, playing around with the interface, or seeing if things are working. A bot will automatically remove all content that added to it and left there so that you'll have a clean page when you go to start using it. Please let me know if I'm incorrect with my assumption or if you have questions about anything, and I'll be happy to clarify and explain things, help you with the questions you originally wanted to ask, and work with you to make sure that any confusion is taken care of. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:01, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Its not that damn hard to figure out how to find if its suppose to be millions or trillions just google 'Toyota Revenue
Its not that damn hard to figure out how to find if its suppose to be millions or trillions just google 'Toyota Revenue — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragoreman (talk • contribs) 21:01, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Dragoreman - If it's that easy, then why aren't you doing it and finding a reliable source to cite in the article? :-) This way, we take care of the problem completely and we make absolute sure that we're correct. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:03, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
https://corporatenews.pressroom.toyota.com/releases/tmc+announces+financial+results+for+fiscal+year+ended+march+31+2018.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragoreman (talk • contribs) 21:06, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Dragoreman! Perfect; thanks for locating a reference that we can use. Since you did half the work already by locating a source, I'll pitch in here and finish everything up, and cite the reference in-line for you. I apologize if my reverts caused any frustration or hardship upon you. You must understand that when I see someone changing the value of that data from a few million to a few trillion, that it's reasonable for me to put the breaks on everything and ask that we verify which number is true using a source first. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:12, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Dragoreman -
Done. I've added the reference you located and restored the changes you made earlier to the article. Thanks again for working with me to verify that what were were changing was correct. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:03, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Dragoreman -
I need help finding my other account I created before.
I cant remember my username I had before and I forgot which email address I had it under. I think I might have edited The 'Stone Cold Steve Austin' Bio before and I think I might have been credited for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragoreman (talk • contribs) 21:20, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Dragoreman - Do you happen to know the time period when you used this account? A date range would be a good start if we're going to try and locate this account. Let me know; I'll be happy to help you locate it if you need help with this. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:58, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Puzzling revdel
Hi, just wondering why you considered this edit to be revdelable as "RD2: Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material"? I see nothing offensive in either the edit summary or the text. All in all, it was a straight-up WP:GF edit by an anon that was reverted almost nine days later. If there is any problem at all here, it was improper use of WP:ROLLBACK by PlyrStar93 (talk · contribs). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:43, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Redrose64 - Oh, God damnit.... out of all the edits made by this IP user, I manage to redact the revision that I told myself to leave alone.... *sigh*.... thank you for bringing this to my attention. I'll be restoring the visibility to that revision immediately. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:51, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: Thanks for letting me know, that was an error; now that it's visible again, I actually restored the edit since I believe the expression was more suitable. -★- PlyrStar93 →Message me. ← 23:58, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Al Toney iii
Hello Mr Oshwah,I guess I don't understand the rules.Everything I wrote about the fraud was from Worcester District Court and I provided the docket numbers,perhaps you could let me know how to set this up so it passes muster,thank youDaubje (talk) 02:03, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Daubje! No problem; I'll be happy to explain Wikipedia's policies and guidelines regarding your edits to the article. Any edits that add content about a person who is currently alive needs to be supported with a source that meets the guidelines on Wikipedia for being considered reliable - especially the edits add content that's contentious, controversial, or negative in nature. Is there an online link or a URL to the information regarding that docket? Just adding a docket number isn't sufficient in this situation (it's easy for someone to just throw random numbers together and claim that it's a legitimate case docket. If you locate and reference the same information and include a link to the court documentation that directly states and verifies what you're adding, you'll be just fine. Until then, I have to consider the content as unverified and treat it as such due to the severity and the nature of the content and the policy. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks for the message, for understanding, and for giving me he opportunity to assist you and point you in the right direction. :-) Happy new year! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:10, 1 January 2019 (UTC)