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Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. Unfortunately, content you added to Josephus on Jesus appears to be a minority or fringe viewpoint, and appears to have given undue weight to this minority viewpoint, and has been reverted. To maintain a neutral point of view, an idea that is not broadly supported by scholarship in its field must not be given undue weight in an article about a mainstream idea. Feel free to use the article's talk page to discuss this, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 18:33, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's nonsense. Muslims and Christians take two different views of one of Josephus' texts, each with their own translation. It is not a "fringe" view that Jesus was not a god, that is the view of about half the planet Earth (including all the Muslims who see him as a human prophet). It is not a "fringe" view that Jesus did not historically exist, some versions of Christianity including Gnostic Christianity took that view, encouraging followers to write their own gospel.
As for "scholarship in its field" if that field is history, then, there is no historian that would validate Flavians who also took the position that Titus was the Messiah, as valid sources. Only if the "field" is "Bible studies" would the theory that Josephus can write about characters with the same names (Jesus, Ananus, Albinus, Mary, Simon, etc.) and none of it is derived from the other despite his job as official propagandist, be considered a "fringe" viewpoint. My text said CLEARLY it was a minority viewpoint.

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Again, welcome! The Stray Dog Talk Page 23:07, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia!

Someone using this IP address, 76.11.94.233, has made edits which do not conform to our policies and therefore have been reverted. For more information on this, see Wikipedia's policies on vandalism and limits on acceptable additions. If you'd like to experiment with the syntax, please do so in the sandbox rather than in articles. If you did not do this, you may wish to consider getting a username to avoid confusion with other editors.

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Again, welcome! The Stray Dog Talk Page 23:08, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 14:14, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war warning

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Your recent editing history at Fringe theories ‎ shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jytdog (talk) 04:31, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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It is important that you sign each of your posts. I also recommend not creating multiple sections in a single post; make sure that each new section ends with your signature. You can sign your comments by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thanks, —PaleoNeonate06:10, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyright problem icon Your addition to Jesus ben Ananias has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:27, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Information icon Hello, I'm JudeccaXIII. I noticed that you made a change to an article, History of ancient Israel and Judah, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:58, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The paragraphs were very heavily linked to articles that they merely summarize, which is appropriate for an overview "history of" article. Yes I think you made a mistake, or rather, are intentionally imposing a POV.

If you don't start signing your posts I'm tempted to revert them.

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I sometimes forget, but you seem to be just ignoring the need to sign them. Why should other editors have to try to figure out who wrote a post? Doug Weller talk 18:25, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sinebot signs them just fine. For those who do not wish to adopt the bad practice of creating cover pseudonyms they can discard that others think are permanent handles, but who also do not wish to hide where they are or stick a copyvio accusation on Wikipedia (preferring to make it obvious who to sue), that's the only solution that's really offered. I completely reject the idea that only people who hide their IP should comment on talk pages. I only did so because of unwarranted reverts, including some very obviously POV ones (changing corrected quotes back to wrong ones, removing POV tags, etc.) by people with (surprise!) Bible POVs. All I'm trying to do is get the many articles on Egypt & early Israel to link up better so that what theory you encounter doesn't depend wholly on who did the last edit.
Sinebot doesn't always and in your case certainly didn't always work, and in such a situation deliberately not signing ad thus leVing confusing posts seems disruptive although I'm not saying that's what you intended.
WPVERIFY isn't optional.
Walls of text on talk pages often distract from your point. See WP:TLDR. As does raising too many ossues at once.
Beware of making assumptions about other editors. I think at least a few don't basically disagree with what you are trying to do.i think I fixed the Habiru issue. I was concentrating too much on your edit. Doug Weller talk 19:08, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war warning

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Your recent editing history at History of ancient Israel and Judah shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jytdog (talk) 18:50, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 19:25, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

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Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Jytdog (talk) 19:40, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

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The full report is at the edit warring noticeboard. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 22:36, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Please note that the block is short and was preventative rather than punitive: edit warring is never acceptable from anyone, independently of other policies like WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:NOR, etc. It is important to civily and patiently discuss on the relevant talk pages to form consensus (WP:BRD, WP:CONSENSUS). It seems to me that you could bring positive contributions to Wikipedia and that with some patience, and getting used to how things work here, your experience will be better in the future. It's important to remember that Wikipedia is always a work in progress and that there's no rush to develop articles. Thanks, —PaleoNeonate00:13, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]