User talk:78.33.33.241

January 2019

Hello, I'm Ruyter. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Article (grammar) have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. — Ruyter (talk • edits) 17:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

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March 2019

Your recent editing history at Placebo shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. GirthSummit _(blether) 12:07, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

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@Girth Summit: I have an issue though with seeing users oppose my edit because there is "no consensus for change" when my attempts to discuss this on the Talk Page have only received one response, hardly a consensus. I support the idea of WP:BRD. What do you do if the 'D' part is hard to come by? And that's a shame, because I'm pretty sure that there are a large number of users watching the placebo page, who want it to informative and truthful.

I've been trying to add a study that suggests that placebos can reduce feelings of nausea. It's from a reliable source, the findings are represented well, it's relevant to the article, agrees with the 2010 Cochrane study...so why try to block it? My conclusion is that I think I'm being mistaken for someone who's promoting pseudoscience. It's frustrating.

But I don't see how revealing that the placebo effect can reduce nausea is benefiting alternative medicine. It doesn't detract from the myriad of reasons against using it. On the other hand, many of us will meet people who have taken alternative medicine and have been deceived into thinking it has worked on them. People will be less at risk of being drawn towards alternative medicine if they understand how this deception works. 78.33.33.241 (talk) 13:55, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Our policy on consensus discusses this. The issue has only been on the talk page for a couple of days - there's no deadline for Wikipedia to be finished, give it a bit longer to see if anyone responds. If they do not, your next step is to go down the dispute resolution route. Giving up on discussion after two days and just reinserting your content is not the right way to approach this, and will probably lead to your IP address being blocked. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 14:18, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Right, I'll wait until at least a week has passed. The only issue is that discussions on that page seem to get quickly archived, judging by the talk page history. 78.33.33.241 (talk) 14:25, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

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