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D'Ambrosio Twins

Hello. Could you help me understand your rationale for applying WP:NACTOR / WP:TOOSOON to this article? Both twins have been working for a while, are Daytime Emmy nominees as of this year (one of them won) and they have a spin-off series starring them slated for release. Is that not notable enough? The article got quickly deleted and I don't think that is justified, but I'd like to learn more. Nightcrafter (talk) 16:33, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Let me clarify a bit since I think I got a little confused by the article's history and it's possible that others may have as well. The page was nominated for deletion in 2019 and kept, then in 2020 it was nominated again and deleted. I can understand that assessment at the time. But since then the twins have had Emmy win/nom and had more roles, so notability requirements should be satisfied. I saw the draft page you moved the article to and I made some additional edits with notable roles there. Nightcrafter (talk) 20:42, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Why do we only list editors for films, and not for TV series? Just curious to know since you reverted my edit on Sydney to the Max earlier. TheRavineStudios (talk) 08:39, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Absolutely inappropriate for them to accused me of canvassing, as shown here on their talk. Once again, their accusations are completely baseless. I would not even be surprised if they return to harass/hound me. — YoungForever(talk) 17:36, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

@YoungForever: They claim they've been here for 20 years, but clearly don't know what a watchlist is. Amaury • 18:15, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Yet, don't even know how to give a proper warning templates nor use Twinkle. Must be a teenager pretending to be an adult. 😆 — YoungForever(talk) 18:48, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

...Is now back to creating WP:BLP articles (a practice I think he should be 'topic banned' from): Olivia Liang. This one likely now passes WP:NACTOR due to Kung Fu, but as with all of Starklinson's efforts, the current article is borderline (and frankly doesn't cut it). Pinging Geraldo Perez here too, as Geraldo should also be aware that Starklinson is back to BLP article creation, and continues to look ill-suited to the task. --IJBall (contribstalk) 01:51, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Olivia Liang only has one significant role at this point. In Legacies, she was only a recurring cast member, not part of the main cast. The article should be move back to Draft. She lacks significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. It is still too soon. — YoungForever(talk) 02:04, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
@YoungForever: Anyone should be able to move back it back to draftspace, if they feel it is justified – just contact me if you can't overwrite the redirect yourself. --IJBall (contribstalk) 03:30, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 Done, I have boldly moved it back to Draft. — YoungForever(talk) 03:54, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
@YoungForever: While we're at it, it doesn't look to me like Stella Baker is a WP:BLP demonstrating notability right now either. If more sourcing can't be found for that one, it should also be moved to Draftspace. IMO. --IJBall (contribstalk) 04:07, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
I think the admin who started Stella Baker article should have known better. The admin also started the article without any reliable sources. Another editor added the reliable sources. The Stella Baker article for sure fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:NACTRESS. — YoungForever(talk) 04:19, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

As the subject says. Whether you agree with me or not, this editor's behavior (and I believe you already have suspicions about them) is suboptimal. I'm not going to revert again, but they are edit warring without discussion, quoting nothing more than WP:OSE. Once I objected, reverting was not the correct course of action. --IJBall (contribstalk) 20:48, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

On the content itself, I'm not seeing any issues since we always add a series overview section, regardless of whether the page is split to an LOE or not, once we have two seasons. However, the user themselves is problematic, whether or not they're a sock, though I do have my suspicions on this and a bunch of other users who suddenly appeared to edit Nickelodeon and Disney Channel related pages. Some of them have turned out to be fine. You'll remember I had my issues with Magitroopa, but they turned out to be a great and legitimate editor. However, I doubt many of these others, like the one here and others like Vic Hawk, are. Amaury • 21:04, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
We don't "always", and frankly we shouldn't – WP:TVOVERVIEW clearly says "...may benefit..." not "will", and in 2-season series cases (and this show's not even at two yet), the value of an overview table is frankly negligible. But this is less a content issue than a behavioral issue – once I object, a discussion should start. It may be that others agree with him. But he's edit warring to his preferred version which should not stand. --IJBall (contribstalk) 21:17, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi there Amaury, I would just like to notify that Karan Brar's birthyear is 2001, not 1999. I heard it from an interview in his Instagram livestream. Wuuluuu (talk) 19:42, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

For the guest credits – was it "Ashley Fuss" with, or without, an umlat (e.g. "Ashley Füss")? Just wondering... --IJBall (contribstalk) 23:35, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Without, but I've fixed it, as it is a clear error in the credits. Just like the one episode of Liv and Maddie that incorrectly credited Jessica Marie Garcia as Jessica Maria Garcia. We still have it as the former since it was a clear error. So it's one of those exceptions. Amaury • 23:40, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
Actually, I'm not so sure about that – I think she's been credited both ways, and in (American) English, the umlat isn't needed. If the credits have it without the umlat, I would leave it out – she likely had input in umlat vs. no umlat crediting. --IJBall (contribstalk) 00:15, 30 September 2021 (UTC)