User talk:Arjayay/Archive 33

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Warning after revert

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Diabetes: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. And some other pages like Monkmoor, Sharma, etc. All the Best! Otuọcha (talk) 10:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Clear the doubt

Hi @Arjayay , I need to ask something according to the WP:RAJ , sources of Raj Era , Archaeological Survey of India and books printed by local publications are not reliable as these books follow the same main sources i.e. Raj Era , so I removed the citations and the stuff which includes these sources but edits are reverted by other user and I also found some articles which are using these sources which are locked. Below are the pages which are using Raj Era sources and the current version is live :

Bahun (my edits were reverted when I removed the Raj Sources)
Kannauj (my edits were reverted when I removed the Raj Sources)
Brahmin : In this article Raj Era books are used like Sherring, Matthew Atmore (1872) citation no 28 , 28 & others , Chaturvedi, Shyam Lal (Rai bahadur) (1945) similarly the citations no 10 & 11 took their references from the same books by repeating those in new book as usual print year not of Raj Era but the source is. Prominister (talk) 08:43, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Prominister, WP:RAJ links to User:Sitush/CasteSources, which is a user-page. As it says at the top "This is an essay. It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines".
However, what that page does do is discuss, and link to, previous discussions, such as at the WP:RSN, where consensus has been set on several items. There are also some useful links on User:Sitush. Unfortunately, Sitush has been unwell for some time, and edits very rarely these days, but if you have any specific questions, you could ask on his talk page, which has 473 page watchers, 21 of whom have visited recent edits, so you may well get a reply from a page-watching editor. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 09:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Okay thanks , I will ask this on his talk page. Thanks for the guidance. - Prominister (talk) 09:57, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

"Spamming the same undergrad book"

Hello, I am glad you noticed this. Something odd has been happening for the past several days, which is the insertion of that book into dozens of Project Medicine articles. It is always accompanied by poorly written English, brand-new accounts with only edits to a particular article or two, and an insistence of putting-back reverted content; there has been copy-pasting straight from that book that I've had to learn how to do a copyvio-revdel for. I have been posting to talk pages with warnings, reverting changes that need it, and copyediting what seems ok to leave in. I have not gone so far as to remove instances of citing this book because I didn't want to judge for myself its merits. I have a copy of the book and it doesn't seem outright fictitious but past that I'm not a med student and can't say how high the quality is.

Can anything be done about this? Do you deem that source poor enough quality that I should go back and remove it where it was added in the past few days? Kimen8 (talk) 12:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Kimen8, I don't know the book at all, but undergrad text-books are rarely the WP:MEDRS sources we require. I have requested page protection of Diabetes at WP:RPP. Looking at the revision history of Diabetes, in the last 29 hours, there have been 5 brand new accounts, which have only edited that article, all of which have ref-spammed that text-book. Which other articles are they attacking? - Arjayay (talk) 13:04, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi again Kimen8. Diabetes has now been semi-protected for 3 weeks and I have cleared the only other spamlink I could find, which was at Cystic fibrosis‎. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 14:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Bear with me because I have to go through my contributions to try to find them. Some of them have been copyvio-revel'd so I can't be certain on some of these, but:

I'm no good with Advanced Search but something along the lines of checking for Indraprakash Building (has been included in some of their refs) and insource:"|last=Khurana |first=Indu" should bring up some results, but it doesn't seem to. I know that this book was referenced a good bit in the past few days, because I obtained a copy for my library a few days ago and have been cross-referencing when I find it used so as to confirm no copy-pasting.

Kimen8 (talk) 15:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the additional ping, but there seem to be more similar undergrad sources being put in as well, e.g.

[7]
[8]

Several are published by "Jaypee Brothers Medical" (or variously, Jaypee, Jaypee Brothers) publisher.

If there is an issue with general undergrad med textbooks, there are plentiful instances of those, published by Jaypee Brothers Medical, to be found:

&c. (a search for insource:"jaypee brothers" turns up 343 results, obviously some of which will be false positive, but it gives a suggestion as to how much this publisher's undergraduate textbooks are in use).

Thank you for your attention.

Kimen8 (talk) 15:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Kimen8 - there seem to be some very old additions by that author, such as this one from 2012, but that was for "Textbook of |Medical Physiology" whereas the recent spate of ref-spamming has been for "Medical Physiology for Undergraduates". I have the author, both titles, and the user contributions of the recent spammers (although they all seem to be single-use "throw-away" accounts) in searches. We will have to see if it re-starts - please let me know if you do find anything - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 16:16, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Can you help me figure out how to determine if a(n undergrad) textbook counts as a WP:MEDRS tertiary source? Thanks. Kimen8 (talk) 23:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Kimen8, I am not an expert on WP:MEDRS (I only became involved because I spend some time chasing spammers) and I have a further disadvantage in that I do not have, nor have access to, a copy of the book. The fact that it is an old book, written for undergrads, and that all mention of it has been revision deleted from the Diabetes article, appear to go against it, but I don't know the reputation of the author, or the publisher.
I suggest you follow the suggestion in the final paragraph of the lead of Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine)

"See the reliable sources noticeboard for questions about reliability of specific sources, and feel free to ask at WikiProjects such as WikiProject Medicine and WikiProject Pharmacology."

Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 13:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good, I'll head there for some more info.

Just as an aside, here are more books, mostly (all but one?) from Jaypee Brothers, and undergrad textbooks, being added by similar authors. Some are old, but some are from that end-of-march rush they did. I'll drop them here for now and then head to the noticeboard/project pages.

I would note that some Jaypee brothers content seems perectly fine, such as this "Indian Academy of Pediatrics Guidebook on Immunization".

B D Chaurasia — Human Anatomy (book)

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D M Vasudevan — Textbook of Biochemistry for Medical Students (book)

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M N Chatterja — Textbook of Medicinal Biochemistry (book)

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? — Textbook of Preventative and Social Medicine (book)

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Thanks again for the help. I care greatly about quality of sources but also try not to be overzealous. Kimen8 (talk) 13:23, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi fellow Wikipedians. I'm sorry to be chiming in late on this discussion. These are not spammers nor bots. They are early medical students engaged in a Wikipedia-editing assignment in a course in a medical school in India. Hence the undergraduate medical text many of them are sourcing, as well as the fact that the majority of them are new Wikipedia contributors. Note that this course is not sponsored by Wiki Edu-- instead we are using the WMF labs dashboard. You can find the pages students are contributing to, as well as the training modules we required of them here. I apologize for the confusion-- I'm working closely with their faculty to ensure students don't plagiarize. I will step up efforts at encouraging them to run their suggested edits through some kind of grammar or prose tool to improve language consistency. Sorry again and thanks for ensuring Wikipedia's accuracy! AminMDMA (talk) 16:00, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

April 2024

Hi Arjayay I restored your old revision 1219272919 in Bongaigaon page, if you have any problems of the older revision please edit it. Thank you Worldinearth (talk) 03:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Note for the archive - the sock reverted to their version as at 06:08, 20 April 2024‎ - nothing like any version of mine, with a false edit summary. - Arjayay (talk) 12:11, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Requesting for changing

Hi Arjayay, I have noticed a mistake in Bongaigaon page. The mistake is in the article Demography section. The Bongaigaon (2011) census population is 67,322 according to info-box, but the Demography section's population is 139,650 it is wrong population please remove this population from Demography section of Bongaigaon and add 67,322 according to info-box. Please match it to info-box population, if you have not match the population from info-box the many problems have on Bongaigaon. Surfunchy (talk) 16:10, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Note for the archive - latest Rang HD Sock - reported + indeffed - Arjayay (talk) 12:58, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism of articles relating to Pakistan by a user with changing IPs

Hello. I need your help regarding an issue. There is a user who is vandalizing the China–Pakistan Economic Corridor, Trans–Karakoram Tract and Maratha Empire articles. I and a few other editors reverted these edits but the user changed their IP. I reverted them again and now this guy comes to my talk page and swears at me in a hindi abbreviation "tmkc". Can you please do something to block this user or at least protect the articles. Your help would be appreciated. An Asphalt (talk) 08:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi An Asphalt - I am not an admin, so I can't block users, or protect pages. You need to go to WP:AIV for the first and WP:RPP for the second. Good luck - Arjayay (talk) 08:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Dhadhor

why are you providing false information about dhadhor clan of ahirs.if you don't know about us than mind your own business. 103.99.198.162 (talk) 16:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia relies on WP:Reliable sources, which you keep deleting, not what people claim to "know". - Arjayay (talk) 16:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

You think you are providing reliable sources.do not again shit on this page. 103.99.198.162 (talk) 16:20, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Sockish

User:DishonoredRighteous pretty much looks like a sock of User:Kichappan with common interests and editing style. 2409:4073:219F:ED5:140F:D300:2351:B52 (talk) 11:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

About the change in the article of Assamese people

its the current scenario! Its not even a current scenario, it's always been there and controversial, so Why shouldn't I add it? I'm a tribal myself, so I know. Tribes like BODO,KARBI,MISING etc don't consider your povWarriormann (talk) 11:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Why are you removing it again and again?? STOP IT⚠️ Warriormann (talk) 14:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

No Warriormann, as clearly explained to you, I am removing it because it is unsourced. It it also malformatted and not in encyclopaedic language, but, unlike the lack of sources those can be resolved. Please stop edit-warring before you are blocked. - Arjayay (talk) 15:18, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Why are you including the tribals who don't even want to be called "Assamese"?? Its wrong and misleading! Why are you putting someone in a box of your own ideology and opinion? And also in the above section, it's said that it is controversial, so I added something related to it, so nothing wrong with that! And who are you to block me? Warriormann (talk) 15:26, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Now what happened. Warriormann (talk) 16:17, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Who are you Warriormann (talk) 16:18, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Social media

hey @Arjayay, You just removed the social links, which I added in some posts. I just wanted to know wether it is why it is noe=t allowed, as there are many posts with social profiles, Chocooooo (talk) 11:29, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Chocooooo, Please create a new section when you start a new topic. As for your question, as I have already explained on your talk page, adding social media links to people's articles contravenes WP:NOSOCIAL. You should also read WP:ELMINOFFICIAL. In certain, limited, situations, one official link is allowed. As for other articles, please see WP:OTHERCONTENT. There are, indeed, many articles where these are already, incorrectly, linked; however, we are trying to reduce this, not increase it - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 11:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Notifying a Reversion

Hi , Arjyay

I have recently reverted the page Nangeli to your version as from the history of the page , it seems that you have made similar revisions multiple times. Can you please check , Iambornwithasword2024 (talk) 04:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Don't do changes on topic-Raut caste

With all due respect, I want to say that , don't change information on article of Raut caste. May be you've some misinformation about it. I'm a Raut so I know better about it. Thank you Raut Ankit (talk) 04:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry Raut Ankit, but that is NOT the way Wikipedia works:-
Wikipedia is not interested in who you are, where you are from, what caste you are or what you "know".
Wikipedia is only interested in what has been published in reliable, independent sources, by a body with a reputation for fact-checking - No blogs, no self-published sources, no bodies with a conflict of interest, no promotional sites.
These sources must be properly cited in order to support any information added to, or changed in our pages, so the information can be verified as true in the future.
The responsibility for providing citations is solely on whoever adds or changes any information, to provide references from reliable sources that support those additions or changes.
You are not doing this, which is why your edits have been reverted. I see your last re-additions were reverted by User:DMacks - an administrator.
Please see Help:Referencing for beginners for the "how to" guide. Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 09:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Arjayay, although it's a mistake for Raut Ankit to make edits without explanation and the source they now identify is not an allowed one, this specific article is a more complex situation. See its history and the ES in my later edits. DMacks (talk) 15:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Regarding recent edits

Kindly explain the guidelines violated by me or any type of vandalism done. Don't make false allegations and accuse falsely. You don't own Wikipedia, I have not made any false edits or not added any false information nor violated any guidelines. I have just updated the page to look better with accurate information.

I recently updated Hyderabad's settlement type from Metropolis to Megacity because Hyderabad city has grown into a megacity. You can cross check. You cannot really control a universal site. Else there is no benefit of editing, improving or making any contributions to Wikipedia. Expecting a reply soon. Anonymous copy (talk) 17:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Anonymous copy:- As that article clearly states, right next to your change " " - From your post, I presume you are referring to an unofficial "estimate", whereas we are working off the official census figures. The 2011 census of India ([23] page 3} clearly states that there are only 3 Megacities in India. We know the 2021 census is unlikely to be taken until late in 2024, and unlikely to report until 2025, but we need to wait until then, not only for the official population figure, but also as they may change their definition of Megacity. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 19:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

But can it be classified as an act of Vandalism ? As you have issued a warning ? and according to estimates Hyderabad has already crossed 10 million population. If you don't rely on estimates and want to rely on census then revert the urban agglomerations page to 2011 census figures. Anonymous copy (talk) 19:17, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Regarding recent Edit

and regarding my second edit on list of largest agglomeration page I have first verified the fact then only made the edit. I do know that editing false information may lead to loss of editing rights. You don't know the exact stats. You can verify from wherever you want. Didn't expect this bad behavior from your side. Anonymous copy (talk) 17:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Anonymous copy - I still see this as pure falsification, you simply changed the titles of two entries in the table, without any alteration of the figures, from

Lucknow - Uttar Pradesh - 4,661,000 - 393.6 - 2,901,474 - 2,245,50 - 1,669,204

Jaipur - Rajasthan - 4,360,000 - 484.16 - 3,073,350 - 2,322,575 - 1,518,235

to

Jaipur - Rajasthan 4,661,000 - 393.6 - 2,901,474 - 2,245,509 - 1,669,204

Lucknow - Uttar Pradesh 4,360,000 - 484.16 - 3,073,350 - 2,322,575 - 1,518,235

It is not up to me, or any other editor, or reader to "verify from wherever you want" the BURDEN is on you as the changing editor, to provide all the required references - Arjayay (talk) 19:26, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

ok I will provide the relevant data. this data is already incorrect (as edited by last editor). I admit that figures should also be edited by me and I will take care of it the next time, but the ranking given by me is absolutely correct and the edit was done in good faith and not to vandalize. But I will still make sure to make less contributions to Wikipedia. Anonymous copy (talk) 03:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Need Help for Article Publishing

Hi Arjayay, i want to publish a new article. can you help me? Mr. Vikash Thakur (talk) 19:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

hello @Arjayay,

You may find it interesting to help expand this Draft base on the sources.

We need sections like Background, Activities, History and so on.

Sorry Mr. Vikash Thakur, I don't have enough time to publish articles on subjects I am interested in, and know something about, to get involved in a subject I know nothing about.
Your post is almost identical to that by «fjuːgəbʌs» immediately below. Are you using multiple accounts? - Arjayay (talk) 10:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Biafra Republic

hello @Arjayay,

You may find it interesting to help expand this Draft base on the sources.

We need sections like Background, Activities, History and so on. «fjuːgəbʌs» (talk) 20:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry «fjuːgəbʌs», I don't have enough time to publish articles on subjects I am interested in, and know something about, to get involved in a subject I know nothing about
Your post is almost identical to that by Mr. Vikash Thakur immediately above. Are you using multiple accounts? - Arjayay (talk) 10:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Regarding Western UP Article

Hi ! @Arjayay , I want the discussion regarding the article page of West UP. In demographics it is mentioned that Jat' are around 17% but on talk page of the article some guy show articles from renowned news papers that all that data is just assumption of the author who wrote the article. So my point is we must removed this caste percentage in the article. Mr. Pro 11:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Regarding recent edit

I saw you reverted my edit made to page of Hyderabad, Telangana settlement type changed from "Metropolis" to "Megacity" by me. I would like to share relevant sources to support my answer

Hyderabad estimated population figures 2024 = 11,068,877, which is clearly > 10 million. Hence, Hyderabad qualifies as a Megacity.

Source url = Hyderabad Population 2024 (worldpopulationreview.com)

another sources which supports Hyderabad population > 10 million

url 2 = Hyderabad, India Metro Area Population 1950-2024 | MacroTrends

url 3 = Hyderabad Population 2024 (populationu.com)

url 4 = Population of cities in India 2024 - StatisticsTimes.com

url 5 = Hyderabad, India Population (2024) - Population Stat

url 6 = Hyderabad (Greater Hyderabad) Metropolitan Urban Region Population 2011-2024 Census (census2011.co.in)

url 7 = Hyderabad Population in 2024, Demographics, City Size, Population Growth (cinemamanishi.com)

Now, I would request you to publish my edit. (talk) 18:45, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

I got an identical posting, which I moved to Talk:Hyderabad#Metropolis or Megacity. I have commented there.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Anonymous copy - Thank you for your detailed post - I have also responded at Talk:Hyderabad - to keep the discussion in one place - Arjayay (talk) 20:25, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda Arendt - 8 years? doesn't time fly when you are enjoying yourself ! - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 09:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Complaint

Hello, I would like to complain against User talk:Ravensfire regarding his edits on MTV Splitsvilla (season 15). He removed an important element from the page "Ideal Match" section calling it unsourced fan trivia, which is false. I have reverted his edit but now he just want to keep it as he wants which is not right. I have been active on the MTV Splitsvilla (season 15) page and I know what should he there. I even added references. Please tell him to do some research and not indulge in edit wars without any knowledge regarding the article. Help Me. Dr. Trafalgar D Water Law (talk) 04:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

@Dr. Trafalgar D Water Law as I've pointed out, it's WP:FANCRUFT in an article already full of excessive details. I've invited them to discuss on the article talk page and work through WP:DR. Ravensfire (talk) 04:52, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

There is no WP:DR because there is no dispute honestly. All i want to request is do some research regarding the article. Dr. Trafalgar D Water Law (talk) 04:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello Dr. Trafalgar D Water Law, I do not know why you have posted here, I am not an Administrator and, other than correcting "recieve" to "receive", I have never edited that page, and have no interest in the subject whatsoever. Ravensfire is correct in saying you should discuss it on the article talk page. You need to cite WP:reliable sources, published by a body with a reputation for fact checking, not a fansite, blog or opinion piece. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 09:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm new to the community, I do not know where to find justice. I have added WP:reliable sources from a reputed body. I know him well, he just like to take control and don't listen to others' opinion. No body have an issue it has been part for over previous five seasons. Who I am supposed to talk on talk page? It's only him with a problem. Dr. Trafalgar D Water Law (talk) 09:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Dr. Trafalgar D Water Law you won't "find justice" until you follow procedure, which starts with discussing it on the talk page.
This has been suggested to you several times, but you still have not edited the talk page. On the talk page, other interested editors can join-in inone, centralised discussion; please do not discuss it here, or anywhere else. Set out your points, citing your reliable sources, show that they are reliable and ask why the other editor finds them unacceptable.
Please do not start attacking, or disparaging, other editors, just concentrate on the facts. - Arjayay (talk) 10:03, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Sure, I will start a discussion on talk page. I am not attacking, or disparaging, the user did that before as well on other articles. If you do not believe me kindly check his talk page. The user is self centered. Dr. Trafalgar D Water Law (talk) 10:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Removal of Name in Regional Language from Vizhinjam International Port Trivandrum

Hello , I noticed that you removed the name written in Malayalam from the Vizhinjam International Seaport Trivandrum article. I would appreciate it if we could discuss this further and come to a consensus. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Best regards, Hobbywriterae (talk) 16:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi Hobbywriterae, as explained in my edit summary "Rm Indic script as WP:NOINDICSCRIPT". As you can see if you read all the threads listed under that link, that is the consensus, which evolved from 2012 to 2017 and cannot be overturned by any "localised" discussion between you and me, on a talk page. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 16:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

A semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2024

If you can do this edit, it will be great of you. Thanks. [24] 2409:4085:2D9D:1D42:0:0:C74A:9C09 (talk) 10:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for Approval of Draft:Aamir_Naik

122.161.243.179 (talk) 10:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, editor from J+K, I am not a new page reviewer. Please don't go around pestering editors, please wait your turn in the queue. Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 11:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Dear

I hope this message finds you well. Iam writing kindly your assistance in reviewing and potentially approving my draft Wikipedia article for publication.

I have carefully followed Wikipedia's content guidelines amd ensured that the article is well - referenced with reliable sources. Additionally i have made necessary improvements based on feedback received from other editors.

I believe it contributes valuable information with the standards notability and verifiability.

Best Regards 122.161.243.179 (talk) 11:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Try reading my post of 11.00, above your latest post - Arjayay (talk) 11:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Barnstarrd

Here is a barn's tarrd as an acknowlegement of your relentless typo fixing. Thank you for making wikipedia that much more coherent. -- D'n'B-t -- 06:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks D'n'B - It is always nice to be appreciated, although I am wondering if your misspelling of "acknowlegement" above, was a test, a joke (or a typo)? - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 11:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Haha, that was genuine. (or was it? it was). -- D'n'B-t -- 18:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Sockpuppet or abuse investigation

Username Sutyarashi is abusing multiple pages. Please investigate. Thanks Unleashed something (talk) 09:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thank you for your ongoing assistance with handling 64.124.92.43's edits and for the report at AIV. Have a good one! GSK (talk • edits) 21:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks GSK - I'll have a quick one before bed - 21:22, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Qaddiryya

I am trying to add the references but for me to do so I need to undo your edit. Otherwise I have to write the entire chain out again which takes eternity. Stop making this into an unnecessary edit war and have some patience while I add the references. 86.5.202.27 (talk) 15:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

You can easily add the references in the same edit as the reversion - they are not an add-on extra for some time in the future. - Arjayay (talk) 15:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

I am new to Wikipedia. Hence I do not know how to do that. The easiest way for me was to undo and then simply add the references. Now I had to write the entire chain out again otherwise it will like an edit war. Thanks for that friend. I have added it properly now. 86.5.202.27 (talk) 15:36, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

If you undo the edit, you can then simply add the reference(s) before saving it - incidentally, we do not put references in section titles. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 15:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	I appreciate your work as editor :) SoshingekiGoji (talk) 20:51, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks SoshingekiGoji - I don't know what prompted your barnstar, but thanks anyway. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 21:23, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

I saw your contributions in Wikipedia (English), and I thought about your hard work here. That barnstar is a appreciation for your work!

Happy editing!

~ 創新劇ゴジ SoshingekiGoji (talk) 21:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Regarding Recent edit

Hi @Arjayay, I noticed your recent edit in saraswat Brahmins page.Detail goes as follows, page:59 Footnote:28. 28. Burton mentions that many of these saraswat brahmins were considered low caste and were also called "Sindhur," from the vermillion tika (Hin. mark on the forehead),

The fact is not represented properly even though I didn’t edited others work.The whole paragraph is explaining how the local ritual expert Brahmins helped in raising status of Khatri and lohanas.Now it’s your turn to revert your edit. Have a nice day. RobertJudeson (talk) 21:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

RobertJudeson - as I clearly stated in my edit summary "No reference to anyone called Burton on this page" - coming here and telling me about what is on page 59, in some book, with an unknown title, by an unknown author, issued by an unknown publisher, is of no help to anyone.
Moreover, if the book is by R. G. Burton, (the only writer on Indian subjects I know called Burton) that would not be seen as a reliable source, as per WP:RAJ. - Arjayay (talk) 21:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Arjayay,

I agree with you as the whole paragraph is based out of RAJ,the selected statements are extracted from footnote so it’s not the opinion of modern author.

Statement with cite ,

-Burton mentions that many of these saraswat brahmins were considered low caste and were also called "Sindhur," from the vermillion tika (Hin. mark on the forehead),

^[1].Here Burton is R G Burton while writing military history of Punjab.You are senior editor,you know the rules better than me.I leave this to you. RobertJudeson (talk) 05:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Arjayay,

Richard Francis Burton,a British officer during Raj wrote a book on Sindh(1851).The footnote of above book contains this book extract which has been used as it is.

https://books.google.co.in/books/about/Sindh_and_the_Races_that_Inhabit_the_Val.html?id=IOrGrQEACAAJ&redir_esc=y

You were right this is Raj era.Rules bounded Shall we delete this sentence? RobertJudeson (talk) 13:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes RobertJudeson, I can't see much of the Google book - they show different pages to different viewers - but anything based on the Raj sources, which this is, is probably not reliable. - Arjayay (talk) 15:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @RegentsPark.

Discussion on that. RobertJudeson (talk) 04:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

References

^ Jürgen Schaflechner (2018). Hinglaj Devi: Identity, Change, and Solidification at a Hindu Temple in Pakistan. Oxford University Press. pp. 59–60. ISBN 978-0-19-085052-4.

@RobertJudeson: The Raj reference I was pointing to was the Ibbetson one that you added in this edit. RegentsPark (comment) 13:47, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

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Rawatbhata page

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Protection for Nalanda

Hello Arjayay, is possible to have permanent protection for Nalanda University page? Many users keep adding the 1600 years ago established things. I think protection will help. Siddhi gupta vb (talk) 13:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

I largely agree with you Siddhi gupta vb, but I am not an admin and was waiting to see if there was any more disruption before going to WP:RPP.
Semi-protection would prevent the IPs, but the actual editor changing to 1600 years has 38 edits, so would only be stopped by Extended confirmed protection, which would also stop you editing the article. - Arjayay (talk) 14:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Rangiya railway division

Latest edits to Rangiya railway division. Think they are Rang HD? --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 17:25, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Classicwiki, I'm pretty certain they are - I'm currently watching 2409:4065:D43:87D9:FC6E:FB10:EA7F:2579 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), 2409:4065:D43:87D9:0:0:EB48:A80E (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and 2409:4065:E11:F77C:0:0:FE49:909 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) - Please take them to SPI if you have time - I'm away for several hours - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 17:30, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@Arjayay, sorry I forgot to report. However, it looks like they all have been blocked. Some of their edits are still current though. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 22:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes Classicwiki, the 2409:4065:0:0:0:0:0:0/36 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) range has been blocked again - this time for 3 months. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 09:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Kalinga under the Mauryan

Please listen, do not change or add content at this article with giving any sources by yourself there. Find sources on the internet and add them to this article now. Thank you. 59.93.0.169 (talk) 06:58, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

I have no idea why you have come here - I have never edited Kalinga under the Mauryan - but looking at it, it clearly needs more sources. - Arjayay (talk) 09:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism and removal of redirect under the page Tiyyar

Hi, i have seen that the redirect to ezhava from the topic thiyya is recently removed by someone. this issue has been discussed from 2013 and all of the main editors have redirected it to the main page ezhava. the new page tiyyar is a low quality copy of the same page and in addition to that, this is claiming things like there is a dialect called thiyya in the lead with the help of some random new articles. when almost all of the raj era sources suggests that both are same . i cant find any evidence to prove that both are separate. Also in most of the cases the name ezhava is used instead of thiyya , this is again making heavy confusions as in 100+ pages are there where they have been mentioned as the same. In addition to that the recently made page is heavily vandalised and is entirely based on some news articles. please look into it an bring the redirect back , as i saw from 2013 ownwards almost everyone had bought the redirect back whenever someone have removed it. Lisa121996 (talk) 14:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

I have no idea why you have come here, as I have never edited the Tiyyar page - please take this up at Talk:Tiyyar which is the relevant page for such concerns. - Arjayay (talk) 15:52, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Constrained minimum criterion

As you might have noticed, I have reverted your edit of removing the redirect. In addition to what I said in the edit summary, I note the redirect is needed since otherwise the draft will be deleted by G13. By redirecting it, we can keep the draft content in the history. Taku (talk) 17:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

No Taku. If, as you claim in your edit summary "the topic does not seem to merit an inclusion in Wikipedia" and "there is no need to develop this draft", we can happily let it die in due course, however, it was edited yesterday, specifically to avoid G13, so that argument is invalid. I still believe that hiding the latest content, be it good, bad or indifferent, behind a redirect is counter-productive to the draft being developed and confusing to other editors. Moreover, under the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, we should be discussing this in the status quo ante, rather than you trying to force the issue by edit warring before any discussion has taken place. - Arjayay (talk) 17:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

The dummy edit was because I requested the undeletion of the draft (so the admin made the dummy edit). It was I who judged the draft need not be developed (since the topic seems too recent) but some other editors might think differently so it is actually more productive to just let it redirect to the mainspace, I think. It is even possible that the draft may contain some materials that can be merged into the mainspace articles. If we just let it die, then we cannot see the deleted content so like I did, we need to request the undeletion. (Basically the problem with G13 is that we don’t know the reason for the deletion. With the redirect, there is more info like I judged that the topic is not notable and if needed, we can revisit that decision.) —- Taku (talk) 17:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Taku, that is rather confusing. "It was I who judged the draft needs not be developed"? - So you had it re-instated, and then hid it behind a redirect? If other editors cannot see that there is a draft article, they are highly unlikely to develop it. Furthermore, why did you request undeletion if you "judged the draft needs not be developed"?
G13 requires 6 months of inactivity, I suggest that if there has been no activity (from you or any other editors) in 6 months, then we have a clear indication that it is still not notable, so deletion would be logical. - Arjayay (talk) 19:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

No, the inactivity has nothing to do with notability: it just means no activity regardless of the notability. I requested the undeletion since I couldn’t tell just from the draft name alone what the draft is about. Also, redirecting a draft doesn’t actually prevent editors from working it: anyone who believes the topic is notable can just undo the redirecting and develop the draft, including the creator of the draft. (Also, redirecting a draft to the mainspace actually helps editors discover the draft through “what links here”. —- Taku (talk) 20:17, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I think you will be surprised how few casual readers/editors will even find out that there is a draft article hidden behind the redirect, so it is less likely to be developed. - Arjayay (talk) 11:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

About “bold, revert”. You made a bold edit without discussion, which I reverted. Now, we are discussing the issue (so I think we are procedurally correct). —- Taku (talk) 17:59, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

No, Taku, that is a clear and obvious misunderstanding of WP:BRD. You made the "bold" edit, without discussion, of turning it into a redirect, I "reverted" it (you cannot deny that I reverted your edit), so that is the point that it should be discussed, in the status quo ante, not after you have repeated your "bold" edit. - Arjayay (talk) 19:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I guess it’s the question of what the status quo was. You can say the status quo was the deleted state. So, redirecting it was actually closer to the deleted state. I don’t think we can argue the status quo was the state of being developed, since it wasn’t as you can see from the history. —- Taku (talk) 20:17, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Sigh - Please don't try to use semantics to try and justify your position. You redirected the article, I reverted you, and that is the status quo ante when the matter should have been discussed. I will leave this to you, and your conscience, as I have some more useful editing to be getting on with. - Arjayay (talk) 11:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

In short, we clearly see how drafts that need not be developed should be handled differently. In any case, as it turned out, some other editor reverted the redirect too. So I think that settles the matter. (I still think the deletion is less productive but that’s just my view). —- Taku (talk) 13:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Misclick

Sorry about this, misclicked. -- Euryalus (talk) 11:33, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

No worries Euryalus' I'm sure we've all done it, but thanks for the apology. Best wishes- Arjayay (talk) 11:40, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Why did you place this on the user page?

Surely this should go on the user talk page rather than the user page? Un assiolo (talk) 15:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Un assiolo - my mistake - have moved it to the talk page. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 15:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Dogra

Regarding this, Sitush removed it [ for being unsourced. This user added it back [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dogras&diff=1182014921&oldid=1182014747, I removed it [26], today he added that back [27], excuse being vandalism from our part!. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Up to you Fylindfotberserk. I accept Sitush's reasoning in theory, but pragmatically, we have dozens of such articles, and whenever such a list is totally deleted, it reappears sooner or later. I am willing to spend my time restricting such lists to people with articles and keeping them in order, which avoids duplicates, but I think the endless total delete/reinstatement circle is non-productive and I don't have time to provide citations for all the entries.

If you think it should all be reverted, then do so, with a detailed explanation in your edit summary and on the talk page. Alternatively, find sources for those that you can, and tag the others CN, separating them from those with sources with a clean-up list template, and then delete the unsourced entries in say 6 months time, after editors have had a chance to provide citations (although I doubt they will have). I think you know that this is what I often do for schools. - Arjayay (talk) 19:12, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

I have been having trouble editing this section - it keeps reverting to an earlier edit that I had previewed but not saved, I have now managed to edit my previous reply. - Arjayay (talk) 19:19, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

After a quick check, only 9 of the current list appear to be alive and 18 are dead, so few are required to/likely to meet the self-identification parameter. We are also likely to encounter the Raj sources problem with many of the older entries. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 19:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Mistake linking

Hi I like to inform you that you mistake the festival of La Gomera 'Virgen de Guadalupe' with another festival of the virgin of Guadalupe in Extremadura. Eduardo ECC (talk) 01:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

I already fix it for you Eduardo ECC (talk) 01:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

MY edits we based on true facts collected from the renowned source

The insurgency Of nlft which I edited is based on true document but you deleted it RUBBERBLONG (talk) 18:28, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes I deleted it, RUBBERBLONG, because you did not cite a reliable source, in a reference attached to your edit, so that future readers can check the information is true, as is required by WP:Burden - Arjayay (talk) 18:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

The official website of Tripura police from where I collected information

https://tripurapolice.gov.in/PresentPhaseInsurgency RUBBERBLONG (talk) 18:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

There is no point in putting that here, RUBBERBLONG, you need to cite your sources in references attached to your edit, so that future readers can check the information is true, as is required by WP:Burden - Arjayay (talk) 18:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Velile Tshabalala

Hi, not sure how to use this probably but I was trying to update Velile Tshabalala's page to reflect her recent recurring role as Stella Clayton in EASTENDERS which is documented but you removed it? Why did you do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.91.162 (talk) 16:37, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Firstly, please do not make additions at the top of the page, between 2 lines that clearly state ""

As for your question, all information added to Wikipedia needs WP:Reliable sources, your addition cited Fandom, which is NOT a reliable source, as is explained at WP:FANDOM. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 17:49, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi there,

All it takes is a little bit of research to show that she is currently in Eastenders as Stella Clayton, please can you reinstate? Link to the Mirror article below which backs up what I had previously linked to.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/eastenders-fans-seen-stella-star-32502972 86.26.114.249 (talk) 10:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

[Schaflechner2018-1] Jürgen Schaflechner (2018). Hinglaj Devi: Identity, Change, and Solidification at a Hindu Temple in Pakistan. Oxford University Press. pp. 59–60. ISBN 978-0-19-085052-4.

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