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ITN recognition for Larry R. Hicks

On 1 June 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Larry R. Hicks, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 17:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: David Newbern has been accepted

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BD2412 T 00:54, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Fred D. Thompson U.S. Courthouse and Federal Building has been accepted

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BD2412 T 02:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Grover J. Rees III has been accepted

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BD2412 T 18:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the undeletion of the page:Stun Siva

I have corrected the mistakes which I had done last & created the article Stun Siva, but again it's deleted. I had requested for undeletion, still it's rejected although this time I have included reliable sources & structured it according to a biography. I had you closed the discussion for the deleted page, please kindly reconsider my request. Ratheef Ahammed Refuon (talk) 02:13, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Ratheef Ahammed Refuon

Your actions are incorrect for reasons stated in the request for undeletion. If you wish to recreate the article, start a new draft at Draft:Stun Siva, and submit that for approval through the Wikipedia:Articles for creation process. BD2412 T 02:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi, can you help me fix a word on Wiktionary, please?

Hi, are you an administrator on Wiktionary? Could you please add two definitions in the Noun section of the word Ageism for me? I noticed they are present on the Simple English Wiktionary but for strange reasons not in the traditional Wiktionary. Coper Seether (talk) 13:27, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@Coper Seether: Those seem rather redundant. Why don't you bring this up at the Wiktionary Tea Room, where such things are discussed? You don't need to be an admin to edit Wiktionary, or ask questions there. BD2412 T 18:15, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Because I'm being harassed there, that's why I feel safe asking here. Coper Seether (talk) 01:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

@Coper Seether: I don't see that you've ever made an edit there, much less been harassed. Please provide evidence. BD2412 T 01:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Because I always edited as a simple anonymous user, I created a user name only recently. Also, I can't, because I fear retaliation. Nevermind, sorry for disturbing you. Coper Seether (talk) 02:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Jennifer L. Hall

Hello, BD2412. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Jennifer L. Hall".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:09, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, this is a draft disambiguation page, but its existence is contingent on someone else's draft, which appears no closer to being promoted to mainspace than it was a year ago. BD2412 T 02:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Joseph F. Baca has been accepted

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BD2412 T 01:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: George Yeaton Sawyer has been accepted

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BD2412 T 03:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Sumaya AkterBD

Hi BD2412, this is Sumaya AkterBD again. What would the timeline be on your response at my talk? How many days would I have to wait to be given back the ability to resume editing? It’s been a few days since I’ve heard from anyone about anything at all. Sumaya AkterBD (talk) 12:09, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Editing from an IP address while blocked is considered block evasion, and will only worsen your situation. Do not do this. If you wish to convey something to another editor, post on your own talk page and use Template:Reply to. BD2412 T 14:35, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Murder in North Dakota law has been accepted

Murder in North Dakota law, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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BD2412 T 02:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Antony Page (dean) has been accepted

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BD2412 T 23:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Conrad Hollenbeck has been accepted

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BD2412 T 20:19, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ormond Somerville has been accepted

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BD2412 T 01:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

AFDs

Hello, BD2412,

I'm not sure why you are so eager to close AFD discussions early, sometimes more than a full day early, and you define a discussion with 5 Keeps as a "Snow close"! We typically require much greater participation than that for a SNOW. I admire you and the work you do greatly but there is really no reason to bypass the 7 day AFD discussion period unless there is problematic content in the article like content that violates BLP guidelines or copyright violations that requires a swift deletion.

It's great to have more admins patrolling AFD discussions and it's perfectly fine to close relisted discussions early if you see a consensus but please consider letting normal AFDs run a full 7 days (or close to it) before drawing them to a close. Thanks for all you do! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

@Liz: My approach has been that if there is no reasonable possibility that the outcome will be different from a unanimously expressed consensus, then there is no reason to keep the process going. I presume this query in particular is in reference to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Csabdi, where the first !vote pointed to an extensive and heavily-referenced article on another language Wikipedia, meeting black-letter standards for inclusion. For discussions with only keep votes in particular (and from reputable AfD participants, not a swarm of newbies or the like), there is no reasonable possibility that a consensus to delete will emerge at that point. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of feature film series with three entries I closed based on the overwhelming consensus to keep plus the nominator's statement of withdrawal, notwithstanding one IP favoring deletion. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Equatorial Guinea–Tunisia football rivalry was eight unanimous votes to delete. BD2412 T 03:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation clarification

Greetings. What kind of disambiguation is required exactly in the Lotka–Volterra equations article? -The Gnome (talk) 12:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@The Gnome: It appears that the tagged link was a disambiguation page (or a disambiguation redirect) at that time, but is no longer. BD2412 T 13:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Abusive user

Hi I’m dealing with a abusive user on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talia_al_Ghul&action=history they have said this verbatim “ No one likes you Jaszen. Your life means nothing and your very existence irritates and displeases everyone” they are accusing me of being someone and then insulting me. Is there anything Wikipedia could do? Thank you Acynet (talk) 00:42, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

This is the user by the way https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Fruitful_Frugal&action=edit&redlink=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acynet (talk • contribs) 00:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@Acynet: I have left a note on that editor's talk page indicating the impermissibility of such abuse. BD2412 T 00:55, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick response. Very much appreciated Acynet (talk) 00:57, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@Acynet: I would offer you one similar item of advice: initiate a talk-page discussion to gain consensus for the inclusion of the content you would like to have included. If such a consensus develops, then the content can not later be removed without development of a new consensus to that effect. Cheers! BD2412 T 01:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Duly noted thank you Acynet (talk) 01:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Rufus P. Tapley has been accepted

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BD2412 T 00:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Chairperson to Chair (officer) challenge

You wrote that "Chair (officer) receives by far the most support among potential move targets." Considering I see 8-8 how can this statement be true? I challenge your closing argument on this basis as this needed to be left open until clear consensus developed. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:16, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

@Fyunck(click): I will write up a more substantial analysis shortly. BD2412 T 00:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

@Fyunck(click): I have slightly altered the close to indicate that Chair (officer) was the option with the least opposition. A substantial majority of participants in the discussion supported moving the title away from Chairperson; there was not a consensus in favor of a specific move target, but so far as I can tell, only three of the seventeen participants in the discussion specifically appeared to oppose Chair (officer) (and one of those is more in the nature of a question than a clear statement of opposition), though it was raised as an option almost immediately and was on the table (no pun intended) throughout the discussion thereafter. BD2412 T 01:13, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

You read the room far differently than I did or you use words like "strong" far more than you should. The RfC was a move from chairperson to to chairman, not chair (officer), so of course many would be more casual in their support of chairman. And changing your wording at this point is problematic for me. It sound more like a bad close mistake that should never have happened. Fyunck(click) (talk) 03:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

You challenged the close and I clarified it accordingly. Please provide the diff where I have used the word "strong" at all with respect to this matter. Otherwise, we are done here. BD2412 T 03:56, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

@BD2412, but there is clearly more support for Chairman. 9 people (incl. me) support the move to chairman as a first option, 1 as a second option, and only 3 people oppose it. You should revert your close and let it stay for some more time. PadFoot (talk) 02:28, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

@PadFoot2008: The initial proposal was for a move to Chairman; every response to the initial proposal that is for an option other than moving to Chairman functions as opposition to that proposal, and this is reflected in the actual discussion. Most participants who supported the alternative proposed also articulated specific opposition to Chairman as a title, even if their !vote was not a bold-faced "oppose". Only a small minority of participants articulated any opposition to Chair (officer) once it was proposed. With respect to the time, the discussion was open for more than ten full days, and was well-attended for most of that time, but had been dormant of new participation for 48 hours before the close. Participation remained roughly consistently split throughout, so there is no reason to expect that relisting would lead to a different outcome. BD2412 T 03:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

But the outcome as it stands is easily no-consensus for anything other than heavy consensus to move away from chairperson. To put it at chair (officer) from that RfC seems like giving up early or bias. I'm hoping neither is the case and that this particular item should stay open for much longer and the article moved back to "chairperson." I see RfCs extended many time at Wikipedia, usually because only 3 or 4 people join in with no consensus, but this has no consensus for chair (officer) even in strength of argument. Fyunck(click) (talk) 03:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, there was a solid consensus to move away from Chairperson, so the title could not stay there. Ergo, WP:BARTENDER. As stated, there is no reason to to expect that the discussion, which had been robust and then fallen off, would lead to a different conclusion if extended. BD2412 T 04:06, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Why not. None of us is Houdini. Sometimes things just take awhile for people to find. This close was not proper, especially with you saying "Chair (officer)" receives by far the most support among potential move targets." That is a total fabrication of the situation. It said to bring it here before taking this to a move review, but unless it's reversed I will take it to move review on that fabrication. Even your sandbox has issues. Buffs first choice is Chairman... so it's 9-8 in favor of Chairman. Chair (officer) was Buffs second choice. You can twist that into an either/or at your own pleasure, but it's wrong to do so. Something is off-kilter here. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Additionally, in the sandbox, BD2412 incorrectly mentions that Amakuru opposes chairman. However, Amakuru clearly says that "I guess the proposal to go back to chairman is marginally better than the obscure chairperson", clearly showing that it's his second option. PadFoot (talk) 08:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

@Amakuru: As your name has been invoked here, I welcome you to comment. Cheers! BD2412 T 13:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

@BD2412, look at the discussion above that one. Most people who expressed their support for chairman had opposed a move to chair in the discussion above. You should wait at least a week of no further !votes before closing. Also no opposition to chair doesn't indicate a support either. I see no consensus for a move to chair. PadFoot (talk) 05:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Move review for Chair (officer)

An editor has asked for a Move review of Chair (officer). Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. PadFoot (talk) 12:26, 28 June 2024 (UTC)