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Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario leadership election, 2018

I understand why you put that photo in, but in reality it appears that one of Allen's supporters copied a copyrighted photo from ipolitics.ca and uploaded it to Flickr, changing the license. I have deleted it again, we'd need an OTRS from that website to allow it. There is a very small chance that the ipolitics.ca photographer has allowed Allen's campaign to use it, but we have no proof of that. Unfortunately this happens all the time in election campaigns! Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 20:25, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Dammit! LOL Thanks for catching that Black Kite (talk · contribs). Can you tell if the other photos on that Flickr page are Fair Use/CC? It's not really a big deal to me. I'm mostly just trying to ease tensions on the page and accusations of WP:NPOV I'm sure will start coming up soon. Thankfully this campaign is almost over, so we won't have to worry about it much longer! Bkissin (talk) 20:33, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
To be honest it looks like a Flickr page simply set up for this purpose. As you say, it won't matter in a few days though! Black Kite (talk) 20:35, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

13:24:50, 11 March 2018 review of submission by Saurabhgarg1988


I wrote this article and created this page as many employees of this parent company or those willing to join have been seen talking on social media about the chaotic online presence of its subsidiary companies which creates confusion especially during hiring process. Some of them got cheated by middleman for bribery to get through the recruitment process. Thus, just to put records straight, I created this page so that they get to know real thing from a credible source like wikipedia and are not confused. I collected this information from independent sources and wrote an article.

If we as editors at wikipedia are not to help people about getting correct information. What are we for. I write blogs. Some of the people who were cheated requested me to write a blog about the company. I then thought, my blog may not reach much people. Therefore, I wrote it on wikipedia so that it reaches maximum people and they are saved from any unnecessary frauds.

Rest is your wish whether to publish or not. I tried doing my bit. Now its reviewer's turn.

For me, ultimate objective of wikipedia is to spread correct information, also about individuals, events or companies who are not as much famous and not just publishing what is already there in public domain.

We can save hundreds of people from getting cheated and losing their hard earned money to the middleman if they get the right information from a credible source. Let see how far we achieve this objective.

Thanks for your review. Saurabhgarg1988 (talk) 13:24, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

16:36:13, 12 March 2018 review of submission by Mbmccl02


This draft subject has articles written by Forbes and Huffington Post that are linked in the draft. I do not understand why those are not considered significant media coverage. Could you explain what else I need to add to be considered significant coverage? Mbmccl02 (talk) 16:36, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

11:23:26, 18 March 2018 review of submission by Arno Hazekamp


Hello. I want to ask about AK-47 article submission. I have rewrited information from table at http://www.ncsm.nl/strain/ak-47 page and included it into the article. Should I use another source? Or I can just remove referencing? Arno Hazekamp (talk) 11:23, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

06:17:14, 21 March 2018 review of submission by Comtebenoit


Hi, I have doubled the number of citations to reputable independent sources, and expanded the section on Bryan's career to describe the notable details. Would you mind to take a look and advise how close this entry is now to threshold for notability? If not, roughly how far away is it? Thanks. Comtebenoit (talk) 06:17, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Comtebenoit (talk) 06:17, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Attention Bkissin

I really am sorry for past vandalism. However! All vandalism past Feburary 1st was my brother's, He hacked my account and vandalized pages under my name. Also, I do admit to using a sock puppet. It was wrong and I will be fixing soon. Sorry for any trouble by my sock puppet and my brother have caused.

I feel bad that things such as this always happen. I hope you were able to fix your content! Amason1930 (talk) 22:41, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Just a little thanks...

Thanks for editing my content. If you could, please give me a few pointers and making a good Wikipedia page, and also, How do you make a page? 😂 Amason1930 (talk) 22:46, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Could you do a little thing for me?

If you remember, you declined my Draft for Cpt. Alex Mason, but I have revised it. So if you have the time, could you check in to that and see if you like it? Amason1930 (talk) 22:56, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello amason1930 (talk · contribs). The reason I declined the draft the first time was because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a directory for CoD Black Ops 2. Video game characters are largely not considered notable for Wikipedia. Exceptions like Mario and Sonic are notable because they have been written about in reliable media sources. If you want to add information about Captain Alex Mason, that may be better suited for the Call of Duty Wiki instead of Wikipedia. I hope this helps. If you have other questions about notability and what Wikipedia is, click the links here and here Bkissin (talk) 23:09, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

10:36:21, 21 March 2018 review of submission by Pompey1


Hello. I was wondering if you could give me some ideas and guidelines to produce an article successfully. I have been trying to create articles on Wikipedia, but all to no avail. Pompey1 (talk) 10:36, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello Pompey1 (talk · contribs). One of the biggest hurdles that new editors face when they want to create an article on Wikipedia is the topic of Notability. Because Wikipedia likes to think of itself as a important encyclopedia, not every topic or every person needs an article. There are certain guidelines that have to be met to be considered for a Wikipedia article. Take Reefer Tym for instance. There are so many bands and musical artists out there that want to have Wikipedia articles to help promote them that if Wikipedia accepted them all, we wouldn't have enough space for articles on important topics. That's why the users of Wikipedia have developed these guidelines to determine if a Musician or artist is notable enough for the encyclopedia.


According to Wikipedia:Notability (music): Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.

  • Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.
This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following:
Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3]
Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.
Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases.
  • Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
  • Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
  • Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.
  • Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.

Has Reefer Tym done any of those things, either in Ghana or the UK? If so, add the information to the article. Otherwise, I wish him the best of luck, and when he makes it big, we can re-evaluate the article. Thanks for asking! Bkissin (talk) 23:17, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

01:14:11, 22 March 2018 review of submission by BDavid3490


BDavid3490 (talk) 01:14, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


I'd like to know what I need to do to get this approved, please. What is it missing?

Hello BDavid3490 (talk · contribs). One of the biggest hurdles that new editors face when they want to create an article on Wikipedia is the topic of Notability. Because Wikipedia likes to think of itself as a important encyclopedia, not every topic or every person needs an article. There are certain guidelines that have to be met to be considered for a Wikipedia article. Take JACC for instance. There are so many bands and musical artists out there that want to have Wikipedia articles to help promote them that if Wikipedia accepted them all, we wouldn't have enough space for articles on important topics. That's why the users of Wikipedia have developed these guidelines to determine if a Musician or artist is notable enough for the encyclopedia.


According to Wikipedia:Notability (music): Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.

  • Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.
This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following:
Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3]
Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.
Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases.
  • Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
  • Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
  • Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.
  • Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.

Has JACC done any of those things, either in Ghana or the UK? If so, add the information to the article. Otherwise, I wish him the best of luck, and when he makes it big, we can re-evaluate the article. Thanks for asking! Bkissin (talk) 13:53, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you! BigSugarDaddy 15:24, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

09:42:18, 23 March 2018 review of submission by Gps50


What about references on these pages: 

 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ConnectedText
 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circus_Ponies_NoteBook
 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyInfo

Gps50 (talk) 09:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Only ConnectedText has no references listed. I wasn't responsible for accepting those articles, but I will look into whether those need to be deleted as well. Just because other stuff exists does not mean that everything deserves an article. On top of WebNote having no references to reliable sources, the article is written in an informal style that borders on the promotional, which would also be a reason to decline the draft. Bkissin (talk) 15:22, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Articles for creation

I've moved the article you approved, The University of New Mexico Comprehensive Cancer Center, back to draft space for the following reasons:

  • The only citations are self-sources and it cites wikipedia itself.
  • Most of the information in the article doesn't have any sources.
  • There is a talk page template on the article page.
  • It is an orphan, and the only out-link is to the state of New Mexico.
  • The title should not begin with "The".

This article should not have been accepted at AfC in its current state. Natureium (talk) 16:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

16:30:21, 24 March 2018 review of submission by 81.129.173.191


Hello. I just double-checked the reference included from The Huffington Post. It is definately about the subject (not by the subject) and demonstrates that the content of the Wiki article is factual. Not sure why this article is being declined?

81.129.173.191 (talk) 16:30, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

11:23:55, 3 April 2018 review of submission by Leccestar


Hi Bkissin, please can you help me understand how I can update my article on Snaptrip to make it publishable. I've added more sources and read the guidelines and I believe it is a sound article. Leccestar (talk) 11:23, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

09:41:04, 4 April 2018 review of submission by Dpmallia90


I'd like to understand better why this article has been rejected. The content, including the citations used, has been modelled exactly on similar articles already published on Wikipedia, including Mr Green (company), Betsson, as well as 888casino and various pages describing operations run by the same company.

I compared the reference links used by all these pages and it seems to me that those used in the Videoslots entry are of similar or superior quality. In fact, several of the sources, namely Maltese newspapers and licensing authorities, are identical.

Thank you for your consideration.

Dpmallia90 (talk) 09:41, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thanks ffor accepting my article on Jip de Jager Barry Ne (talk) 04:20, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

08:00:56, 5 April 2018 review of submission by Kobold Stout


Hello Bkissin,

I have added links to the article about this game. Why it was declined again?

Thanks in advance.

Kobold Stout (talk) 08:00, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Kobold Stout (talk · contribs). So, I see several reasons here why it would be declined. First, the sources: for Wikipedia articles, a topic has to have media coverage from reliable sources that are INDEPENDENT of the subject. Citing the developer would not be independent of the subject matter, and citing a Wikia about the page would not be a reliable source because anyone can come in and make outlandish changes. Second, the topic: I don't know whether this meets notability guidelines under Wikipedia:Notability (video games), but if the game is not fully released yet, it would certainly fit under the rule that Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball, and shouldn't be used as a forum for product announcements. Third, the style: The way the article is written right now, especially the Story section, come off very self-promotional, not exactly the tone of an online encyclopedia. That was at least my reasoning. Bkissin (talk) 13:27, 5 April 2018 (UTC)


Draft review

Hey there! Just to let you know, there's currently a review request on the Draft page for Better Call Saul (season 3). Is it okay if you review it. The Optimistic One (talk) 14:26, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Please remember to check for copyvio

Hi Bkissin and thanks for your work reviewing new drafts. Please remember to check for copyright violations. The particular one I saw was Draft:Diego Echeverría, which was copied from http://thedocyard.com/2016/08/living-los-sures. Thank you, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 10:35, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Origin Suite article

Re: Draft - Origin Suite.

A bit unclear how this album article is not sufficient for being accepted when the first album was (Time Within Itself). This Origin Suite is written up internationally and has been getting airplay world wide, as much as Time Within Itself. Obviously there is something you see lacking that the other article and CD contained; made it acceptable.

shelyric (sorry, my tilde is not working on this computer)

Hi shelyric (talk · contribs)! So I'm a little torn about the draft. On one hand notability is not inherited just because other stuff exists. If Waldrop is not notable enough for his own article, I find it difficult to see how his albums pass notability. Actually, I just noticed this rule from WP:NALBUM (Conversely, an album does not need to be by a notable artist or ensemble to merit a standalone article if it meets the general notability guideline. ) I'm not sure that the "Charts" section meets the The single or album has appeared on any country's national music chart. rule of notability, and the section on reviews needs to be introduced into prose, not just copy-pasting sections from selected reviews, which would be a copyright violation. The article itself needs a major cleanup, but once that is done, you are right, it may be acceptable for the mainspace. By all means, once that is done, re-submit the article. Bkissin (talk) 20:38, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Brannavan Gnanalingam

Hi

I was asked to help with the above draft by KJP1 as a member of the NZ project. My fellow Kiwi who wrote the draft seemed a bit discouraged. I am new to Wikipedia but tried to do my best to answer your queries by providing more references and attempting to highlight notability. NZ is a small country so for a young author (under 40) to have published 5 novels would be considered "notable" - but in the "promising" rather than the "arrived" area. I hope that my editing helps highlight this view in an appropriate manner. I also think that a novelist in NZ, born in Sri Lanka is also notable (though it might not seem like this from an outsider view). I can understand that this may not be enough to be included in Wikipedia, but wanted to give it a go at the request of KJP1 Thank you for your comments.

Yrarendar (talk) 05:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Yrarendar (talk · contribs)! I'm sorry you feel that way. I was going by the guidelines that Wikipedia sets out for creative professionals like authors. I have copied and pasted the guidelines here:


Authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects, and other creative professionals:

  1. The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.
  2. The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique.
  3. The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
  4. The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.


While both of the facts you bring up are interesting tidbits, they aren't enough to establish notability for Wikipedia.
To give you a small sense of hope here, one of the few things that may work in Brannavan Gnanalingam's favour is the fact that his books have been short-listed for national book awards in NZ. I personally don't know the guidelines around whether simply being nominated for a national book award is enough to be notable, and so my comment on the article was meant to start a conversation among the reviewers as to whether this was enough.
You are more than welcome to do some work on the draft and try to resubmit, but it took 8 weeks for a reviewer to eventually decline the submission so I don't know if things will be different this time around. Bkissin (talk) 15:24, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment. I would not have initiated the entry myself, but I have worked on the entry in order to help out. I have added more material to flesh out the entry; however I am still not certain that this novelist meets the criteria - though his work has been reviewed in all the likely and respected NZ outlets, but not internationally. Do you advise leaving it as is and waiting for the originating author to make the next step. The original author has not changed anything. As I am new to Wikipedia, I didn't know what the next step would be.

Yrarendar (talk) 00:39, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

That's a tough one Yrarendar (talk · contribs). If the original editor doesn't care, then you don't have to be the one to try and save this article unless you want to. Coming from the US, I don't know which local NZ websites count as reliable sources. Look at the guidelines in that link and see if the sites in Brannavan's article fit those guidelines. Bottom Line: I wouldn't worry about it too much. Welcome to Wikipedia, go out and explore and make some great edits, and if you have any other questions, stop on by! Bkissin (talk) 20:47, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Re.Article

Thanks for reviewing my article. What is my sources missing? Thegooduser Let's Chat 19:07, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry thegooduser (talk · contribs), I was originally responding to a different user that I declined. As for your article, it was only one sentence! While Wikipedia does find most articles about geographic features as notable, a 1-2 sentence about a road (especially without proof that the road in question is notable) would not pass such a test. Look at the articles for East Hastings, Granville Street, Burrard Street or any of the other articles on Roads in the GVRM to see what they did. Bkissin (talk) 21:10, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

19:22:23, 9 April 2018 review of submission by Mattvanstone87


Thank you for the review. I'd like to do whatever it takes to see that this article meet your guidelines. However, I'm a little confused as to what is deemed a "reliable" source. I've included sources that are national automotive publications, local news from northeastern Pennsylvania, the Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg Business News. I'd just like further explanation of what is a "reliable" source if those are not.

Thank you for your time, and I look forward to improving this article in an effort to meet your guidelines.

Mattvanstone87 (talk) 19:22, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Mattvanstone87 (talk) 19:22, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

00:56:48, 10 April 2018 review of submission by GhanaPress


Hi , I have made the edits and request a re-review. Please let me know what other edits can be made. Thanks.

GhanaPress (talk) 00:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

08:32:15, 10 April 2018 review of submission by SimoC


Dear Bkissin, with all due respect could you be more specific about the changes/edit needed on the page? GNU Health is a worldwide project, implemented in every continent and with international awards. Luis Falcon is the creator of it and I believe that the page I submitted should be public. Please, let me know how to proceed. Thank you. SimoC (talk) 08:32, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello SimoC. It was a difficult decision to decline Draft:Luis Falcon because you did a good job on the article. I was working with the guidelines that Wikipedia has on the notability of professors and academics. Those guidelines are:
1. The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.
2. The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.
3. The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the IEEE).[2]
4. The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions.
5. The person holds or has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research (or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon).
6. The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.
7. The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity.
8. The person is or has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area.
9. The person is in a field of literature (e.g., writer or poet) or the fine arts (e.g., musician, composer, artist), and meets the standards for notability in that art, such as WP:CREATIVE or WP:MUSIC.
In looking over the article again, there may be a case for #7 on the list, though it also looks like Falcon is not a professor or academic. WP:ANYBIO says:
The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times.
The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field.[8]
The person has an entry in the Dictionary of National Biography or similar publication.
However, the activism section comes off a little too promotional in its tone. I would absolutely fix that if I were you. By all means, attempt to resubmit, try and follow the guidelines above to see if Luis Falcon can meet those requirements, and happy editing! Bkissin (talk) 14:52, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Paper Mario (series)

I knew that the other article was there. I made my article to replace it because it's so poor. Can you give me any advice on how I can improve it? Ramesty (talk) 05:05, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello? 2600:100A:B010:8424:CBC:A711:D54:26B5 (talk) 16:06, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
It looks like:
  1. .Lee Vilenski and Legacypac already gave you advice
  2. .See the section in the List of Mario RPGs talk page on what other editors are looking for.
I don't see why you can't copy and paste your current information into the existing article so that other editors can work with the information you have compiled. Bkissin (talk) 16:18, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Bkissin (talk) 05:02, 7 April 2018 (UTC) Draft: Patrick Griffin (political consultant)

Hi Bkissin,

Thank you for taking the time to review the submission. Just to confirm, the use of the biography from Stonehill College (http://www.stonehill.edu/about-stonehill-our-mission/college-leadership/board-of-trustees/patrick-griffin/) was the only thing that was unacceptable about the draft? Just want to make sure it is ok to resubmit as long as we do not use that as a source.

Also, is there anyway to get the draft back or does it have to be fully rewritten?

Thanks! MPCStrategic MPCStrategic (talk) 19:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC) 

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MPCStrategic (talk • contribs) 19:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Flag

Hi, Bkissin.
I've noticed that you are an AfC reviewer but don't yet have the New Page Reviewer flag. Would you please consider heading over to PERM and requesting it? (check the flag requirements HERE)
As part of a larger plan to increase cooperation between New Page Patrol and Articles for creation, we are trying to get as many of the active AfC reviewers as possible under the NPR user flag (per this discussion). Unlike the AfC request list, the NPR flag carries no obligation to review new articles, so I'm not asking you to help out at New Page Patrol if you don't want to, just to request the flag.
Of course, if it is something you would be interested in, you can have a look at the NPP tutorial. Please mention that you are an active AfC reviewer in your application.
Cheers, — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 06:17, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

56 Hope Road

Hi - thank you for reviewing my submission. I was worried about the NPOV lean as well. Do you think the best way to combat this issue would be to add sections that don't necessarily implicate the CIA? Bryant Kimball (talk) 21:09, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

That's a tough one Bryant Kimball. I would say try to shift the focus more toward the political violence between the PNP and the JLP and what caused these differences, and then we can add a section about CIA involvement at the bottom of the article? I'll see if I can't do a little reorganizing. Bkissin (talk) 23:30, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey @Byrant Kimball:! I added a little bit to it, but I have to go to bed. Check out these sources and see if you can add/subtract any more to the background section. The Guardian, Why Marley’s performance at Smile Jamaica matters, RollingStone. I hope that helps! Bkissin (talk) 00:35, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@Bkissin: thanks for the additions. Everything checks out. I'll work on this today and maybe it'll help organize a flow for the rest of the article.Bryant Kimball (talk) 12:18, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

You rejected my proposed article on Fry, Arizona and I am looking for clarification.

I am unclear why you rejected my proposed article. I was trying to correct errors in the county (cochise, az) and city pages, but without the context of a separate article explaining about the populated place of FRY, az (it also a census designated place) the history of both Cochise county and Sierra Vista are severely distorted, as Fry still exists alongside and partially surrounded on two sides by sierra vista and the Ft. Huachuca military base. Fry is still active. I provided four times the sources most the the other CDP's and Populated places (even the ghost towns) listed as being in the county, which need to be corrected to include the area. All of my sources are available from the university of Arizona, Smithsonian, and Arizona historical society. I tried to get the listing corrected for Cochise county corrected but had my changes reversed. Wikipedia is literally and effectively leaving out a real currently existing place recognized by the federal government, and national register of historic places (for two buildings one of which I mentioned in my proposed article).

So I again ask, as I have provided more sources than all these other places that are 1/4 the size in the county and have pages at Wikipedia....what are you objecting to and are wanting more detail? When I have traced links listed in other articles perhaps 50% at best are real and mt sources are either academic or in one case a collection of selected newspaper articles (the reporters own articles- when the paper was bought out twice between 1980's and 2000 one or both of the new owners did not keep it so this collection is all that exists. So I repeat, what detail needs more? That really makes no logical sense to me in this context.

Ambre P (talk) 06:46, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Ambre P, please try to look over Wikipedia:Etiquette next time you have a dispute with another editor. I don't need to be spoken to that way. That being said, it was a very difficult decision to decline that draft. You are absolutely correct that most articles about geographic locations pass notability requirements, especially if they are CDPs. However, the draft that I saw was not effectively formatted (one long unmanageable chunk of text rather than being spread out or wikified, it also included trivial information (I fail to see how having a drive-in theatre that received an advance copy of the first Star Wars is notable enough for an encyclopedia article.) There was the worry that the article may have had some copyright violations from copying and pasting information (see here) but I think you largely avoided that because you cited the source in the article and put quotes around direct information.

If you want to see how other CDP articles are put together, look at Damascus, Maryland, Layhill, Maryland, and/or Leisure World, Maryland as examples.

Your other option, of course, is to add this information into the existing articles for Sierra Vista and Cochise County. Bkissin (talk) 13:55, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Ambre P (talk) 09:46, 11 April 2018 (UTC) I am sorry if I upset you in some way. I have a learning disability and I really know I am missing something. I was not trying to argue with you, I just really do not see a difference and am confused. I know I think a bit different, and I found out in college how differently. I now do not understand now why you are upset. I have read everything and am frustrated with what I must be doing wrong and not seeing, to the wikipedia editorial POV. I have looked at other articles, and to me, what I wrote looked good and similar if not better because of all of the sources I was using. I looked at your link to the AI copyright checker, and other than the direct quotes I did not cut and paste anything. I know I have a bit of a boring writing style, but that is funny, but only if you know I wrote it all from scratch. The blog your copyright checker is using is one I have given info to/posted at, I actually used actual and physical source material as opposed to quotes and stories posted by other users, and had used it as an additional source but was told to remove it. If fact that blog has several sections that are direct cut and pastes from a local real-estate office page that its-self is line for line, word for word copied from one of the books I was quoting.

It really is an oversight I was trying to fix. I do historical reenacting and the oversight bothered me. As for putting it in with sierra vista page, to someone like me who has lived in the area and knows the history, its confusing to me and others in local area I have spoken too. I am trying to be complete, but fry is not sierra vista like well any two settled places that touch each-other. You should see a local map where they overlap and almost commingled on the street by street level, but have separate governments, are listed separately in the phone listings, mail addresses, etc... Sierra Vista proper is the largest settled area/town/city in the county and Fr y is a separate CDP mostly but not entirely within sierra vista [1] . People living in fry can not get city services, as they are not residents of Sierra vista, they use county services like rural fire, and 911 calls the county sheriff not sierra city police. Its an oddhte situation, but as it is seperate, distinct, and older than sierra vista and bigger than any other CDP listed in county, I cannot understand why it is not listed. Most of the other CDP's are less than 300 people and Fry is estimated at between 800 to 1000 people.

If this is not what you are saying is wrong, I apologize, but that is what I am thinking you are saying. Not trying to argue, I'm just not good at explaining, and not understanding at all the problem you are saying. This is why I try to stick to art and CGI graphics editing and not writing. I was trying to fix something I saw as small and easy to fix problem.

The Star wars thing is important to me and people I interact with, but most are science fiction fans and computer/technical people. To me its more interesting than any of the 'notable' people who live in sierra vista.

If there is somewhere else or something else I should ask this or do please tell me.

Ambre P, I definitely understand you are frustrated after putting so much time and effort into your work. It can be upsetting when someone declines a draft you worked hard on, I get it. It has happened to me many times. You did fine on the copyright issue. It was coming up as worrisome by that tool because of the direct quotes that you pulled, but you cited those quotes so there is no problem.
Again, you are right that there is important information here, it just needs to be formatted better. That's why I suggested looking at the CDPs that I mentioned in my last comment. That may give you an idea on what other writers have done to make their articles good. While the information in the last three paragraphs is interesting, I still don't think it's the kind of information you would find in an encyclopedia.
Does any of this information help give you an idea on what I'm talking about? It's a good article, it just needs some work before it's ready to accept. Bkissin (talk) 16:35, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://geonames.usgs.gov/apex/f?p=gnispq:3:0::NO::P3_FID:4869. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Copyrights on drafts

Just as a note, it's probably not the best of ideas to link to the copyvios tool in draft comments, as was done here - it encourages the submitter to simply reword the document until they reach an "acceptable" level of heavy paraphrasing to trick the bot and get it to slide past reviewers. Also pinging Thsmi002, who declined the draft in the first place, as a courtesy (if you could remove the offending content that would be great, but it's not the end of the world if not). Primefac (talk) 23:46, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Primefac, what is the best way to request revisions to be hidden due to copyvios? Thsmi002 (talk) 02:06, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Thsmi002, the template is {{revdel}}, which can be added (if desired) via script. Primefac (talk) 12:19, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

14:16:37, 16 April 2018 review of submission by SimoC


Dear Bkissin, sorry to bother you. I'm still on this because maybe in the writing it is not clear that Falcon is not an academic nor a professor. He is the founder and president of a non-profit organization (GNU Health) with a potential on global health and in agreements with the United Nations and other projects. I will try to fix my writing hoping that it is suitable for the guidelines of NON academics and professors. Thank you again. SimoC (talk) 14:16, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

19:30:02, 20 April 2018 review of submission by Csobrito


I've reviewed other RV manufactures mentioned on wikipedia including Winnebago Industries. That article also reads like an advertisement and that company still exists. Apollo Motorhomes no longer in existence, went under in the late eighties, but contributed significantly to the business. Csobrito (talk) 19:30, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Reg Griffin submission

Do I understand that you have rejected this submission because you think Timeform are a bookmaker?

>>> Comment: A bookmaker would not be notable per Wikipedia guidelines on horse racing notability Bkissin (talk) 20:55, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Timeform is to the entire horse racing industry what Wisden is the the cricketing world. They are NOW owned by a bookmaker, but bookmaking is still not what they are about. Reg Griffin was a leading figure in the horse racing industry because he ran Timeform for so long and contributed enormously to the racing world.

I would appreciate suggestions how I can better word his entry to reflect this.

Thank you.

Wikiwrangler (talk) 20:50, 21 April 2018 (UTC) wikiwrangler

Hello wikiwrangler! I'm sorry you feel as if the article was unfairly declined. I don't have a background in British horseracing, and so in looking up Timeform, it led me to the article describing its gambling activities. That being said, I went with Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse racing/Notability to develop my decision. If you can reword the article to fit some of those requirements, go ahead. More context in the lead would be important as to what he actually did. Was he a jockey? Was he a horse owner? A data analytics guy for Timeform before becoming Chairman? If so, was he notable enough to meet the standards put together by Wikipedia? What I see right now is a guy who ran Timeform for many years. Bolster your case a little bit, using the notability guidelines as something to work with. Bkissin (talk) 22:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for that, I'll have a go. But Timeform doesn't have any gambling activities. They send people round to watch horses in races and in training. They time them over set distances (The "time" part of the name) and log their performance on the racecourse (the "form" part of the name). But I'm not responsible for the Timeform entry on wikipedia, so if it gives a misleading impression, that is unfortunate. Griffin started off going out watching horses and writing reports, then he was in charge of other people doing that. They published a yearbook with data on every racehorse in Britain. It was the industry reference book and Griffin became very influential. He rode as an amateur in his early career, and an owner and breeder in his later career. He did more besides. Wikiwrangler (talk) 23:28, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

02:40:17, 23 April 2018 review of submission by Leura B


I have updated some of the citations and resubmitted Leura B (talk) 02:40, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Mount Eden Vineyards

No worries, it was on my watchlist after I deleted it. The creator was blocked by Bbb23. Guy (Help!) 19:26, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

23:12:45, 23 April 2018 review of submission by Jrussell505


Jrussell505 (talk) 23:12, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


The references that I submitted are identical to the references used by the page of her co-star Arthur Hughes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Hughes_(actor)

This is the page for the radio show: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Plain_Bill

And yes, since it is simply stating facts, it is enough of a reference to confirm that she was on the show since it is listed in print that she was an actress therein. It should be enough to confirm that she should be linked directly from the "Just Plain Bill" show page.

I am her great-grandson and there is more content to add to fill out her page but a beginning page is needed no?

Re: largest serving of balut

Hi. Thanks for your comment on the Largest serving of balut article. Good point. Do you have any comment on the wording and design of the article? Domingokiro (talk) 16:27, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Domingokiro! The article provides some good information about the event, good job! However, there are some sections of the article that sound overly promotional and don't give off the neutral point of view that Wikipedia is known for. For example, a lot of the quotes from Mayor Medina or the head of A+E Philippines are very complimentary about the event. It may have been a great event, but that's not a fact that can be proven. There are some good photos here that would be great to use when you merge some of that information into the Balut article. However, I would only choose 1 or 2 of the best pictures (in your opinion) that show Balut.
Here's how I might re-write it to add into the existing article:
In 2015, the city of Pateros, Philippines set the world record for the most people simultaneously eating Balut. The city, which is known for its Balut production, partnered with the Center for Culinary Arts (CCA, Manila) and the History (U.S. TV network), to set the record.[1] [2]

Chefs from the Center for Culinary Arts, led by by Chef Tristan Encarnacion prepared 1,000 pieces of balut into an adobo dish that was recorded to have weighed 117.5 kilograms.[3] In addition to setting the world record for most people simultaneously eating balut, the event organizers collected over 120 different recipes that include balut, hoping to change possible negative perceptions of the food.

Does that help? Bkissin (talk) 17:51, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Largest serving of balut". Guinness World Records. April 10, 2015. Retrieved April 25, 2018.
  2. ^ "Largest Serving of Balut". Guiness World Records. Retrieved 20 April 2018.
  3. ^ "Philippines in world record attempt for largest serving of balut". CNN Philippines. April 14, 2015. Retrieved April 26, 2018.

01:05:14, 18 April 2018 review of submission by Alexander.Snave


I attempted to increase the sound of neutrality in what I initially wrote. If it's still not enough, is it possible to further specify what exactly should be changed? Alexander.Snave (talk) 01:05, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey Alexander.Snave! The article definitely looks better, good work! Wikipedia's guidelines are pretty strict on who qualifies for an article for athletes, but they don't have guidelines for skiers/snowboarders. Take a look at the guidelines here and see if you can determine whether Jake Makes the cut, OK? If you can make a convincing argument, then you might be able to get the article accepted. Bkissin (talk) 18:02, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Re: largest serving of balut

Thanks a lot for your help Domingokiro (talk) 18:14, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Tygerberg High School Parow

Good day Bkissin

Thanks for letting me know about the wrong citation. I used another article citation to make sure everything is correct and forgot to change it to the relevant page. My apologies, it was negligent of me. It does show how thorough you check it. I have corrected it

Thanks

User:Barry Ne —Preceding undated comment added 02:58, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

07:47:16, 29 April 2018 review of submission by Maxmode


Hi I'm new to Wikipedia, but I checked the Wikipedia:Notability_(music) and there are some points I want to argue for publishing the Roozbeh Azar Article:

1. there is no National music chart in Iran so he couldn't be Top in that. 2. His works are in accordance with points No. five and six of the Wikipedia:Notability_(music), He has more than two successful major record albums and he has an ensemble with prominent master musicians in it. there is more information about his works and I will be updating the article with refrences. and the references provided within the article are from reliable independent sources that are known in Iran

Mohammad Abbaszadeh Thank you Maxmode (talk) 07:47, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Review - Anthony (Tony) Trimingham

Hi Bkissin,

Thank you for reviewing my submission for an article about Anthony (Tony) Trimingham. I updated the citations and resubmitted so would you mind looking at the resubmission please.

thank you Leura B Leura B (talk) 01:31, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

15:21:29, 30 April 2018 review of submission by Carlkdm


Hi,

This is our third time trying to submit our Wikipedia page, only for it to be rejected. I'm not sure what's promotional on the page. Would you be able to let me know so we can get our page approved.

Thanks. Carlkdm (talk) 15:21, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

I think what stuck out to me about as promotional were the sentences "Doug Cook has helped the company grow to over 200 employees since then. The company's spokesperson, Installer Dave, is featured in many of their commercials which have become a staple in Chicago TV."

That being said, I think the larger reason why this page keeps getting deleted is that it doesn't seem to fit Wikipedia's notability guidelines on companies. A small windows and doors franchise, no matter how many local commercials and charity drives it does, is not inherently notable enough for an article, and Wikipedia's purpose is not to be a business directory. Familiarize yourself with the notability guidelines linked in the last sentence, and see if you can find a way to have Feldco fit those guidelines. Bkissin (talk) 16:07, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Jekyl84/sandbox

A tag has been placed on User:Jekyl84/sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

G4 and G5; material used to repeatedly recreate Kanishk Sajnani (see deletion log for that article, it has been done twice today, so far...)

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 12:53, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

21:20:25, 20 March 2018 review of submission by SunnyBoi


Hello Bkissin, thank you considering my page submission. I included citations from the founder's publication, largely regarding the early history, as there hasn't been much written yet because it's privately held. The other references include Washington Post and Huffington Post. I believe that the company is notable given its reach, especially considering the recent political coverage. There's previous litigation which I can add in, which would improve consideration of the notability. There's a lot of activity about the company on blog platforms, however I understand these sources aren't verifiable. The MLM category [[1]] shows many other direct distribution companies and I consider SeneGence to be a worthy addition to the list given their long establishment. Could you please let me know the best way for this to be re-considered or re-reviewed? And your specific suggestions for improvement? Thank you so much for your time!

SunnyBoi (talk) 21:20, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello Bkissin, I have updated the article and removed most of the citations from the founder's book as well as linked with the company. Could you please advise if this would be considered for re-review? Thank you. SunnyBoi (talk) 14:43, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello Bkissin, editor Grayfell has very kindly edited the draft SeneGence article and summarised it a lot. Would you please be able to re-review the page? Thank you for your time. SunnyBoi (talk) 01:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

00:52:17, 4 May 2018 review of submission by Rozaman1988


This is an Egyptian band so mostly all covering articles are either in arabic or in english in arabic sites , i choose arabic sites in english for better clarification , and all the data written in the article are verified through those articles, please review the article again and waiting for anymore feedback .

Rozaman1988 (talk) 00:52, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Tygerberg High School

Hi Bkissin

Thanks for adding the rugby players

User:Barry Ne —Preceding undated comment added 03:49, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

15:21:40, 9 May 2018 review of submission by DavidStephens123


I have removed all elements of advertising from this article. I also feel that it is very important to include this topic in Wikipedia. I hope that you will accept my request for re-review.

DavidStephens123 (talk) 15:21, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

23:50:07, 10 May 2018 review of submission by Leura B


Hi Bkissin, I have removed and added third party citations and asked for feedback through live chat sessions and followed their directions.


Leura B (talk) 23:50, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Hilliard City Schools Middle Schools

Hilliard middle schools all have links that redirect to the Hilliard City Schools page. Even at the bottom of the Hilliard City Schools page, the middle schools still link to the same page that they are already on, so the redirect should at least be turned of if you are not going to let a separate page about the middle schools be created. Braydo Volcano (talk) 01:40, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

08:29:59, 18 May 2018 review of submission by Ladispeaks


I would like to know how I can specifically make the article better and accepted really.

Ladispeaks (talk) 08:29, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

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Request on 16:02:31, 19 May 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Theo8436


Hi, Bkissin -- thanks for your review of the Kathleen Hamm page. I do want to get it right. I know for a fact that the PCAOB does not copyright its website content (and can get that reference if it helps). I did try to differ from that website bio. It may be similar since I wrote that website bio for her too. What do you suggest? Thank you, Colleen Brennan

Theo8436 (talk) 16:02, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

can you review my topic ?

can you review my topic ? DrYoosef (talk) 21:16, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

06:00:04, 22 May 2018 review of submission by Sachin.chdr18


The articles has been written from neutral point of view and includes independent sources like Lifehacker[1], Product Hunt[2], Awwwards[3].

All of these resources are independent, reliable and published sources; the author of the creator of this library cannot write a publishing in these big names by himself. Apart from this the urk of github is provided to provide some extra information.

I am eager to hear from you and will be ready to make any fixes if required. The main purpose to write about this topic is to add encyclopaedic content which actually people want to know about and the intention is not to promote this topic as an advertisement.

Please get back in touch.

Sachin.chdr18 (talk) 06:00, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.lifehacker.jp/2017/07/170702_coolhue.html. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  2. ^ https://www.producthunt.com/posts/coolhue. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  3. ^ https://www.awwwards.com/gradients-in-web-design-elements.html. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

A page you started (Consensus Ontario) has been reviewed!

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Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:28, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Bkissin

Good day Bkissin, you declined my article, I really want to know why. Hamilton Tushy (talk) 12:46, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Hamilton Tushy (talk · contribs). One of the biggest hurdles that new editors face when they want to create an article on Wikipedia is the topic of Notability. Because Wikipedia likes to think of itself as a important encyclopedia, not every topic or every person needs an article. There are certain guidelines that have to be met to be considered for a Wikipedia article. Take Yung Kevyns for instance. There are so many bands and musical artists out there that want to have Wikipedia articles to help promote them that if Wikipedia accepted them all, we wouldn't have enough space for articles on important topics. That's why the users of Wikipedia have developed these guidelines to determine if a Musician or artist is notable enough for the encyclopedia.


According to Wikipedia:Notability (music):
Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.
  • Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.
This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following:
Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3]
Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.
Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases.
  • Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
  • Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
  • Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.
  • Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.

Has Yung Kevyns done any of those things? If so, add the information to the article. Otherwise, I wish him the best of luck, and when he makes it big, we can re-evaluate the article. Thanks for asking! Bkissin (talk) 13:25, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

About my article

Got you clear and clean Bkissin. I thought because Yung Kevyns song has been on many radio stations in Nigeria and getting enough play it should be on Wikipedia as well. But if that's what requires of the young man, I'm not going to fight it as I'm sure he's going to achieve all that you mentioned real soon. Thanks for the info. Hamilton Tushy (talk) 13:43, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

16:07:08, 27 May 2018 review of submission by Coplaboom


Thank you for your feedbacks, I have made changes and linked most of the information provided with contents that I found - I will submit it again for your retention Coplaboom (talk) 16:07, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Siege of Ragnarok 25

Hi there i would like to know why my submission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Siege_of_Ragnarok_25 was declined? I was just telling the story about a real player battle that took place in ARK: Survival Evolved, it's just a battle report i have no idea how that would be a game guide. Looks like double standarts are prevalent here because this virtual battle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodbath_of_B-R5RB was approved but my page about Ragnarok 25 not. Huursa (talk) 14:41, 29 May 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huursa (talk • contribs) 14:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Huursa. Personally, I don't think either article is notable enough for Wikipedia. If it were up to me, the Bloodbath of B-R5RB would be deleted as well. Just because other stuff exists does not mean that an article should be on Wikipedia. The one thing that the Bloodbath article has over the Ragnarok article is that the battle itself was covered in reliable independent media sources (The article includes citations from Wired, Polygon, PC Gamer, The Verge, the Epoch Times and Discovery News). Even if I disagree with the article, the editors have made a compelling case for its inclusion. Bkissin (talk) 15:11, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Ping

I deleted Dubai Aquarium & Underwater Zoo and now Draft:Dubai Aquarium & Underwater Zoo under WP:G5. It was created by an LTA. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:04, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining TonyBallioni. The article itself seems fine, but if somebody is subverting a block to try and get it on, that's not OK. Definitely respect/accept your decision. Bkissin (talk) 19:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

???

The page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Babilona_(actress) is having enough sources y it is not notable — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lingamlanga (talk • contribs) 08:45, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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