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Ichthus: July 2018


ICHTHUS

July 2018

The Top 7 report
By Lionelt

The big news was the marriage of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. The Top 7 most popular articles in WikiProject Christianity were:

    1. Elizabeth I of England – legendary monarch who ushered in the Elizabethan Era over the dead body of her half-sister (#5)
    2. Henry VIII of England – on his deathbed the last words of the king who founded the English Reformation were "Monks! Monks! Monks!"
    3. Martin Luther King Jr. – can't wait to see the new US$5 bill featuring the "I Have a Dream" speech
    4. Seven deadly sins – surprisingly "original research" is not one of the Seven deadly sins
    5. Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC)
    6. Michael Curry (bishop) – our article says that he upstaged Meghan at her wedding. Did you see her wedding pictures? All I can say is {{dubious}}
    7. Robert F. Kennedy – when informed that missiles were being installed in Cuba he famously quipped, "Can they hit Oxford, Mississippi?"


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[[File:|200px|The Last Judgment by painter Hans Memling. ]]
The Last Judgment by painter Hans Memling.

List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events. Predictions of apocalyptic events that would result in the extinction of humanity, a collapse of civilization, or the destruction of the planet have been made since at least the beginning of the Christian Era. Most predictions are related to Abrahamic religions, often standing for or similar to the eschatological events described in their scriptures. Christian predictions typically refer to events like the Rapture, Great Tribulation, Last Judgment, and the Second Coming of Christ.

Polls conducted in 2012 across 20 countries found over 14% of people believe the world will end in their lifetime, with percentages raging from 6% of people in France to 22% in the US and Turkey. In the UK in 2015, the general public believed the likeliest cause would be nuclear war, while experts thought it would be artificial intelligence. Between one and three percent of people from both countries thought the apocalypse would be caused by zombies or alien invasion. (more...)


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AfroCine: Join us for the Months of African Cinema in October!

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This is to introduce you to a new Wikiproject called AfroCine. This new project is dedicated to improving the Wikipedia coverage of the history, works, people, places, events, etc, that are associated with the cinema, theatre and arts of Africa, African countries, the carribbean, and the diaspora. If you would love to be part of this or you're already contributing in this area, kindly list your name as a participant on the project page here.

Furthermore, In the months of October and November, the WikiProject is organizing a global on-wiki contest and edit-a-thon tagged: The Months of African Cinema. If you would love to join us for this exciting event, also list your username as a participant for this event here. In preparation for the contest, please do suggest relevant articles that need to be created or expanded in different countries, during this event!

If you have any questions, complaints, suggestions, etc., please reach out to me personally on my talkpage! Cheers!--Jamie Tubers (talk) 20:50, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Months of African Cinema!

Greetings!

The AfroCine Project welcomes you to October, the first out of the two months which has been dedicated to improving contents that centre around the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora.

This is a global online edit-a-thon, which is happening in at least 5 language editions of Wikipedia, including the English Wikipedia! Join us in this exciting venture, by helping to create or expand articles which are connected to this scope. Also remember to list your name under the participants section, if you haven't done so already.

On English Wikipedia, we would be recognizing Users who are able to achieve the following:

  • Overall winner (1st, 2nd, 3rd places)
  • Country Winners
  • Diversity winner
  • High quality contributors
  • Gender-gap fillers
  • Page improvers
  • Wikidata Translators

For further information about the contest, the recognition categories and how to participate, please visit the contest page here. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. See you around :).--Jamie Tubers (talk) 22:50, 03 October 2018 (UTC)

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Ichthus June 2019


ICHTHUS

June 2019
The Top 6 Articles
By Stalinsunnykvj

The sad news was the 2019 Sri Lanka Easter bombings. The Top 6 most popular articles about People in WikiProject Christianity were:

    1. Louis XIV of France – a monarch of the House of Bourbon who reigned as King of France. He did say, "Every time I appoint someone to a vacant position, I make a hundred unhappy and one ungrateful."
    2. Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC), Mary was found guilty of plotting to assassinate Elizabeth I of England in 1586, and was beheaded the following year.
    3. Elizabeth I of England – The Virgin Queen, Elizabeth was the last of the five monarchs of the House of Tudor who ushered in the Elizabethan Era, reversed re-establishment of Roman Catholicism by her half-sister.
    4. Henry VIII of EnglandKing of England, He was an accomplished musician, author, and poet; his known piece of music is "Pastime with Good Company". He is often reputed to have written "Greensleeves" but probably did not. He had six marriages.
    5. Martin Luther King Jr.
      " There are three urgent and indeed great problems that we face not only in the United States of America but all over the world today. That is the problem of racism, the problem of poverty and the problem of war."
    6. Billy Ray Cyrus – Having released 12 studio albums and 44 singles since 1992, he is best known for his number one single "Achy Breaky Heart", which became the first single ever to achieve triple Platinum status in Australia.
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Saint Fin Barre's Cathedral, Cork, Ireland
Saint Fin Barre's Cathedral, Cork, Ireland

Saint Fin Barre's Cathedral is a Gothic Revival three-spire cathedral in the city of Cork, Ireland. It belongs to the Church of Ireland and was completed in 1879. The cathedral is located on the south side of the River Lee, on ground that has been a place of worship since the 7th century, and is dedicated to Finbarr of Cork, patron saint of the city. It was once in the Diocese of Cork; it is now one of the three cathedrals in the Church of Ireland Diocese of Cork, Cloyne and Ross, in the ecclesiastical province of Dublin. Christian use of the site dates back to a 7th-century AD monastery, which according to legend was founded by Finbarr of Cork. The entrances contain the figures of over a dozen biblical figures, capped by a tympanum showing a Resurrection scene. (more...)

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Happy Thoughts

Glad you’re up front about having been the IP. You and I are not enemies. Have interests I write about, as do you. Not my aim to be at odds or speak ill of other groups, just aiming to get maximum information out, no matter whether it seems positive or negative to whoever it’s about. Always willing to compromise to fairly represent that. Hyperbolick (talk) 06:47, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Margaret Borland

You requested the page be deleted, as I am new to adding I dont want to break any rules. Since you are experienced with editing please consider editing the article to make it meet the standards instead of deleting the entire thing. There are not enough articles written about women on wikipedia as is, and I dont want Margaret Borlands accomplishments to be erased for something trivial. I tried to cite the source that I copied the info from but apparently that's not allowed. There are even other wikipedia pages that referenced her but she still never had a page made for herself. Hoping that you are able to fix up the page since you spend a lot of time on this site editing and I don't know much. Thanks! Smitty1028 (talk) 02:42, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

The article is unsalvageable as it is: it is 98% identical to the blog entry which you copied it from. Needs to be deleted and started over from scratch. Elizium23 (talk) 02:46, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

fyi

What about it? Elizium23 (talk) 19:23, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Ignatius of Loyola

Hello. I would greatly appreciate it if you would stop reverting my edits with no reason and you actually read MOS:ETHNICITY, which says that someone's ethnicity should not be mentioned in the lead unless relevant to what the person is notable for. Not only that but you are implying that "Spanish Basque" is a nationality, which is not and never has been, let alone in the time of Ignatius. His ethnicity is irrelevant. I'm planning on restoring my edit in a few days. Bidezko (talk) 10:17, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Elizium23,

I'd appreciate it if you kept an eye on this article. I added it to my watchlist but I have an enormous watchlist. I gave Tounom a block for edit-warring but I'd like to know if he returns to disruptive editing or if any new accounts take an interest in this article. Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 00:17, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Of course it is my pleasure to do so. Elizium23 (talk) 00:18, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for your diligence and for not giving up! Kudos to you! Liz Read! Talk! 23:45, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

WP:ELOFFICIAL

Explain this to me since its my edits you wiped out...

Roberto221 (talk) 09:10, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

So the very beginning of WP:External links says Wikipedia articles may include links to web pages outside Wikipedia (external links), but they should not normally be placed in the body of an article. All external links must conform to certain formatting restrictions.. This is repeated in WP:ELOFFICIAL. It is simply against the Manual of Style to have an article full of external links. External links belong in a separate section, if at all. Official websites are encouraged to be placed there. But what do we do with a list article such as this? We are looking at dozens of "official websites". WP:ELMINOFFICIAL says we can't list them all. So, the choice is to either redlink them and wait for articles to be written, or unlink them, and expose them as normal text. I am amenable to either solution; redlinks would be appropriate if we have a reasonable expectation that articles may appear. Elizium23 (talk) 09:16, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Fair enough. Now why did you wipe out my edits on the bishops page. You realize I created the table a few years ago...

Roberto221 (talk) 09:21, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

I did write an explanation on the talk page about that. Elizium23 (talk) 09:22, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Paul D. Murray

Hello, thanks for your guidance. Where can I comment for non-deletion of the article, I can't find it. It's a work in progress, presumably not infringing copyright yet as it is not published?Vintage-vintner (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

It doesn't work like that. Everything you write on Wikipedia is published, so you need to write in your own words from the beginning. Have a look at this document: Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Elizium23 (talk) 19:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Understood, thank you. Is it possible to retrieve the text?Vintage-vintner (talk) 23:29, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
There is a process called Deletion Review that you can try, I guess. Elizium23 (talk) 23:31, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Provided as a tool for reviewers, the Earwig copyvio detector tool indicates a probability of 88.1% that this is a copyright violation. For the sake of comparison, I believe the score on your previous draft was approximately 96-98%. You seriously need to write in your own words; this is still a WP:Close paraphrase situation. Elizium23 (talk) 02:53, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks. The biog of an academic is bound to contain lists of institutions, organisations, societies, books, and degrees. There is very limited scope for paraphrasing them. Nor would it make sense to change the chronology (or the dates, or the facts) just to satisfy the copyvio detector. Hasn't this kind of problem arisen before? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Paul_D._Murray Vintage-vintner (talk) 03:25, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
The situation is directly addressed in WP:LIMITED. Elizium23 (talk) 03:30, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Indeed. And in fact the areas highlighted by the Earwig are exclusively book titles, institutions, roles, organisations.. Isn't this where common sense kicks in? Vintage-vintner (talk) 03:35, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
Eventually, yes, common sense would win out. It would be at the discretion of an administrator who investigates a future report. You will also need to reckon with the notability requirements. For a theologian such as this, the relevant guideline is at WP:NACADEMIC. If Murray is not considered notable enough to merit an article, it will be deleted, regardless of content. Elizium23 (talk) 03:42, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your guidance. Well, there could be no reasonable doubt on notability here, at least 6 of those criteria are unquestionably met, but I'm already learning that Wikipedia universe has laws all of its own. Vintage-vintner (talk) 03:53, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

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Ichthus July 2019


ICHTHUS

July 2019
The Top 6 Articles
By Stalinsunnykvj

A suicide attack on July 11th claimed by Islamic State (IS) near a church in the Syrian city of Qamishli shows that Christians remain a major target of the terror group. The Top 6 most popular articles about People in WikiProject Christianity were:

    1. Henry VIII of EnglandKing of England, He was an accomplished musician, author, and poet; his known piece of music is "Pastime with Good Company". He is often reputed to have written "Greensleeves" but probably did not. He had six marriages.
    2. Elena Cornaro Piscopia – was a Venetian philosopher of noble descent who in 1678 became one of the first women to receive an academic degree from a university, and the first to receive a Doctor of Philosophy degree. In 1669, she translated the Colloquy of Christ by Carthusian monk Lanspergius from Spanish into Italian.
    3. Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC), Mary was found guilty of plotting to assassinate Elizabeth I of England in 1586, and was beheaded the following year.
    4. Bob Dylan – American singer-songwriter, author, and visual artist.
      " Take care of all your memories. For you cannot relive them."
    5. Elizabeth I of England – The Virgin Queen, Elizabeth was the last of the five monarchs of the House of Tudor who ushered in the Elizabethan Era, reversed re-establishment of Roman Catholicism by her half-sister.
    6. Billy Ray Cyrus – Having released 12 studio albums and 44 singles since 1992, he is best known for his number one single "Achy Breaky Heart", which became the first single ever to achieve triple Platinum status in Australia.
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Eric and Leslie Ludy were 21 and 16 respectively when they first met, English professors suggest that older singles are unlikely to gather hope from their story.
Eric and Leslie Ludy were 21 and 16 respectively when they first met, English professors suggest that older singles are unlikely to gather hope from their story.

When God Writes Your Love Story: The Ultimate Approach to Guy/Girl Relationships is a 1999 book by Eric and Leslie Ludy, an American married couple. After becoming a bestseller on the Christian book market, the book was republished in 2004 and then revised and expanded in 2009. It tells the story of the authors' first meeting, courtship, and marriage. The authors advise single people not to be physically or emotionally intimate with others, but to wait for the spouse that God has planned for them.

The book is divided into five sections and sixteen chapters. Each chapter is written from the perspective of one of the two authors; nine are by Eric, while Leslie wrote seven, as well as the introduction. The Ludys argue that one's love life should be both guided by and subordinate to one's relationship with God. Leslie writes that God offers new beginnings to formerly unchaste or sexually abused individuals. (more...)

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Delivered: 12:31, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Breach of 3RR

You reverted 4 times on Talk:Sovereign Military Order of Malta, so you've broken 3RR. There's no exemption for talk page posts of that kind. DrKay (talk) 19:46, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

That's a joke, right? Elizium23 (talk) 21:48, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
1 2 3 4 DrKay (talk) 21:56, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
They were jokes so it doesn't count. Elizium23 (talk) 22:02, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't find your 'jokes' funny. DrKay (talk) 22:13, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Suicide of Rebecca Ann Sedwick

Regarding this edit; while Findagrave would not qualify as a reliable source for many things, it does provide a photo of the headstone, which seems reasonable. Motherboard (a sister of Vice (magazine)), would very likely qualify as a reliable source; it was brought up on the RSN briefly here. It's used quite frequently as a source without controversy. However, I'm not going to dispute your edit because I believe the Dr Phil section probably violates WP:WEIGHT and isn't necessary. OhNoitsJamie Talk 13:30, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Bible in Hebrew

The psalms in Hebrew are thousands of years old, and meaningless without an English translation. Copyright? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that page is marked as "Copyright 2019 Chabad", and so unless we can prove that both their chosen English translation and the Hebrew text are public-domain, then we need to honor their copyright claim. Elizium23 (talk) 20:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed an explicit copyright there: "English translation, © copyright The Judaica Press, all rights reserved." Elizium23 (talk) 20:39, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The Hebrew text is the Hebrew text from the Tanakh. Surely that's public domain? Yoninah (talk) 21:04, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict:) What do you suggest? Translate it ourselves? I don't read Hebrew. Contact the copyright-holder for permission? - The KJV is free, but old-fashioned English and not always close to the original. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Wikisource is thataway. Elizium23 (talk) 21:11, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
The English translations in Wikisource are either anachronistic or heavily weighted toward non-Jewish sources (e.g. "Yahweh" for "God"). The Jewish Publication Society version is from 1908; Mechon Mamre and The Free Bible are completely unacceptable for a modern, 21st-century translation. The rest of the sources on that page are Christian, not Jewish. Yoninah (talk) 22:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
I can't follow, seeing a big difference between the comparison of two versions of English right in the article, to having to open several windows for source text versions. I reverted your copyright ... messages, thinking they are a digrace for readers. Please stop it, or I will go to ANI for the first time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:18, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Please do not remove maintenance templates before an administrator can determine the merit of the copyright complaints. We will need to open an investigation if more than five infractions are found. Elizium23 (talk) 21:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
We have now four threads dicusing the same thing: that you alone are convinced that the Hebrew Bible text and it's translation contitute a copyright violation. The tags you leave in the articles are a DISGRACE. I need sleep now, but if you continue this will go to ANI. Readers expect information on Wikipeida, not maintenance tags which undermine trust. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, maintenance tags are not a disgrace, they're a notification. You should not be removing them. As for the choice of translation (not a lawyer, but interested in copyright), we can only include text from translations which are either public-domain ("older than Mickey Mouse") or have a suitable, compatible license. The original text is public domain, but translations are a creative work and so are copyrighted. We cannot use copyrighted text on-wiki unless it qualifies as fair use, and the use of an entire psalm is probably not going to qualify. Also please note that under American law, creative works are automatically protected by copyright even if there isn't an explicit copyright notice. creffett (talk) 23:51, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Elizium23, I hate tags, I really do, so inform you in prose that I opened an ANI thread in the matter. As I also pinged you, I trust that you'll find it. Make a joyful noise unto the Lord. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Psalm pages

Save yourself some trouble. Here are the pages I added the English translation to:

1, 2, 8, 13, 22, 24, 36, 39, 42, 45, 46, 47, 70, 75, 91, 93, 96, 97, 110, 126, 127, 130, 131, 133, 134, 138, 139, 147, 149, 150. Yoninah (talk) 20:56, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
We only need 5 to open a WP:CCI. Elizium23 (talk) 20:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
I'd ay it's one case. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:34, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

No-go zones in Poland

I think you deleted the section by mistake as I added five reliable sources. Perhaps you should restore it or should I revert your blanking as vandalism? // Liftarn (talk) 09:19, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

AfroCine: Join the Months of African Cinema this October!

Greetings!

After a successful first iteration of the “Months of African Cinema” last year, we are happy to announce that it will be happening again this year, starting from October 1! In the 2018 edition of the contest, about 600 Wikipedia articles were created in at least 8 languages. There were also contributions to Wikidata and Wikimedia commons, which brought the total number of wikimedia pages created during the contest to over 1,000.

The AfroCine Project welcomes you to October, the first out of the two months which have been dedicated to creating and improving content that centre around the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora. Join us in this global edit-a-thon, by helping to create or expand articles which are connected to this scope. Also remember to list your name under the participants section.

On English Wikipedia, we would be recognizing participants in the following manner:

  • Overall winner (1st, 2nd, 3rd places)
  • Diversity winner
  • Gender-gap fillers

For further information about the contest, the recognition categories and how to participate, please visit the contest page here. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. See you around :).--Jamie Tubers (talk) 00:50, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Is the Vatican's website not a reliable enough source?

I'm not sure what kind of inherit bias you have towards the Church of the East but the declaration clearly states the theological position of the Church of the East. Unfortunately due to your rash judgement and inability to decipher the information contained in the source document you've labelled it unreliable. You need a serious reassessment of your actions and need to at least take the time to understand the information contained in the source document before labelling it as unreliable. I'm reversing the change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramsin93 (talkcontribs) 15:58, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Update: I added a secondary source affirming the notion that the Assyrian Church of the East is inappropriately labeled Nestorian. Maybe take time to read and learn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramsin93 (talkcontribs) 16:34, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

October 2019

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Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Weeping Jesus statue in Mumbai, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Harshil want to talk? 00:29, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Get over it, your DYK sucks. Elizium23 (talk) 00:47, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Sanal Edamaruku, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Harshil want to talk? 01:15, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Sanal Edamaruku, you may be blocked from editing. Harshil want to talk? 01:16, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Information icon Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:Harshil169. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Please stop labeling and accusing someone's work as Bad faith. Read WP:AOBF. Harshil want to talk? 01:42, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

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CompTIA A+.

Yo I went to the official website, based in Downers Grove, all I could find, are to take exams to see if you can get the A+ certificate or not. But where is the actual training? The schooling. Can you point me somewhere. 67.175.224.138 (talk) 23:49, 28 October 2019 (UTC).

I attended a community college, which presented a course by Cisco. Any educational or training institution that has an instructor capable of presenting the Cisco material should be able to do it. I couldn't list any specific recommendations. Elizium23 (talk) 00:41, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
So uh, what's Cisco? 67.175.224.138 (talk) 15:02, 29 October 2019 (UTC).
Cisco is an industry-leading vendor of network routers and other products that run the Internet. They also offer the "IT Essentials" course that comprises a good A+ preparation. Poke around your local area, or around the reputable Internet, for an institution with Cisco IT Essentials course on offer, and you'll get prepared for earning the certification. Try community colleges, etc. There are many sites on the Internet that offer "test preparation" that are scams. Don't fall for scams. Be properly educated and you'll go far in the industry. Elizium23 (talk) 23:50, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Copyrighted talk page content - how does it look now?

Hi, you removed some potentially copyrighted content from a talk page that I was adding to (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Planned_Parenthood_2015_undercover_videos_controversy), and I have now reduced the quantity of content and added quotation marks. How does it look now? 170.54.58.11 (talk) 19:42, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

I am not sure why you have to copy-paste quotes in at all. That is an article discussion page, not a sandbox. You should be writing in your own words ways to improve the article. If you want to park links there, fine, and then summarize them - in your own words - and describe how and why you would use them in the article? Elizium23 (talk) 19:45, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Papago Park link

Hello,

I just received a notification of a removal of a link. I had linked a PDF of a research paper I wrote while at the University of California, at Berkeley for a course on Landscape Architecture. The document was a 20 page PDF regarding the history of Papago park including footnotes and a bibliography for reference. Hopefully this can allowed to remain on the page, otherwise it will take me a significant amount of time to integrate the paper into the article on Wikipedia.

Thank you, Mhallcal18 (talk) 15:43, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

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Edits to al-Andalus

Hi, you recently removed some of my edits to the al-Andalus page. I just want to say that I didn’t appreciate your rude edit comment and am somewhat confused about why parts of my contribution were removed. Should I have copied the relevant citations from the Wikipedia articles I cited instead of citing the Wikipedia articles themselves? I was wary about using Wikipedia as a source, but I did some searching on Wikipedia and thought I found something that said it was an acceptable source. I’m making this edit for a class assignment and also asked my professor about it, and he said it was fine to use Wikipedia as a source. Also, one of those citations was a translation of a sentence from a Spanish Wikipedia page, which from my understanding is acceptable to do. I’d appreciate it if you would have simply said Wikipedia isn’t a reliable source in your edit comment, rather than making a rude comment to a first time Wikipedia user. Albr6394 (talk) 04:13, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Why not in the Malone infobox?

The infobox template has the "successor" field and the Vatican has named a successor, Bishop Scharfenberger of Albany, as "apostolic administrator sede vacante". I don't understand why the infobox is not an appropriate place for the successor's name. Any further explanation? Thanks. Swliv (talk) 02:03, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Now you've gone 'all church terminology' on all my edits and I've reverted some back to dual terminology, with explanation in the edit summary. And you've reinstated 'emeritus'. I did not revert that edit yet. But you use a "Catholic-Hierarchy" webpage in your edit summary to support the word but you don't use that webpage as an in-page citation. The webpage notes: "This web site is not officially sanctioned or approved by any Catholic Church authority." I don't think it's adequate for a citation given the bigger story of this resignation and think that the 'emeritus' edit should be reverted unless there's something official.
More broadly, I sense an excessive parochialism (used in a non-church sense of the word) to your edits here, if I may say so respectfully; going, as I said in the linked edit summary, beyond copy editing. This is not an exclusive domain nor is the encyclopedia meant just for those fluent in church terminology. I'm glad to see you've ceased removing my dual-terminology editing for the moment now. Thanks again in advance for your attention. Swliv (talk) 02:42, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Elizium23 was commenting at the article talk page and I've now responded to Elizium23 and other comments there. Comments closed here. Swliv (talk) 04:27, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas!

And Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too! Just doing a couple of edits before I take a nap so I can make Midnight Mass... Roberto221 (talk) 20:49, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

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Catholic propaganda

I don't understand if you are a Christian why you deleted the post. And yet, I don't understand it.

It is quite normal for Balkan Catholic propaganda to refer to local sources as the most familiar. Do you expect a source for Catholic propaganda in the Balkans to be the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? Angel Angel 2 (talk) 23:04, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Interesting, that's exactly the kind of source you cited for a definition. Elizium23 (talk) 23:09, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
There is nothing interesting. Everything is painfully trivial. Here is the etymology of the term and year 1622. To date, there are enough Bulgarian and Serbian, Romanian, Greek, and Turkish sources. By the way, this propaganda has created a lot of educated local people. Another is the question of what and to whom they served. [1]

ps. In a sense, Catholic propaganda is tautology. Angel Angel 2 (talk) 23:21, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

STOP YOUR VANDALISM!!!

https://www.parool.nl/kunst-media/jeugd-van-tegenwoordig-wint-mtv-award~b3ead8e6e/--Spacejam2 (talk) 15:55, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Good, you found a source, now put it in the article, not on my talk page. Elizium23 (talk) 15:56, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

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Kkktpkirij

Just an fyi, I submitted an SPI report based on activity at Malankara Church. I saw you had filed a couple yourself so thought you would like to know. S0091 (talk) 22:08, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Latin Catholic Archdiocese of Baghdad

I did not wish to clutter the Talk page with collateral matters but in reading the lede I suggest adding a phrase to the third sentence ", all in communion with the Holy See". "Diocese" may not convey that, and not all self-identified "Catholic" Churches (such as many Anglo-Catholics) are. ty. Manannan67 (talk) 18:21, 30 December 2019 (UTC)