User talk:Goustaff
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December 2009
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Cheryl Studer article
[edit]Hello - Please discuss the changes I made to the article and that you reverted on the section I started on the talk page. ThanksSmeat75 (talk) 13:00, 10 June 2014 (UTC).
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Cheryl Studer. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
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. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Nyttend (talk) 01:33, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
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Goustaff (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Requesting that my account be unblocked as soon as possible. I can live with the page as is and happy to see others joining in to improve its content. My numerous contributions to the Cheryl Studer page have nothing to do with Advertising or copyright infringement or conflict of interest. The recent and sudden spate of activity from others is the direct result of a malicious commentary made in the infamous opera blog site Parterre.com. I can provide the link if you wish. The Studer Wikipedia page was linked thus drawing the attention of some who then chose to begin editing. That said, my contributions to the artist's page are simply about attempting to relate her musical journey over time, not unlike so many other Wikipedia pages of living artists. Finally, I am not someone close or related to the artist in any shape or form. To close, I will use better judgement from hereafter when editing or writing content and will refrain from undoing others' edits. Should I have any issues or concerns, I shall take them to the Talk page. Fair?
Decline reason:
One open unblock at a time, please (and frankly opening a second unblock before this one has been dealt with does not present you as patient and willing to work with others). — Daniel Case (talk) 21:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
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Goustaff (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Requesting that my account be reinstated. With honest intentions and without any conflict of interest or personal gain or self interest whatsoever from my efforts, I have attempted over time, as others have, to populate 100% veritable/accurate content about soprano Cheryl Studer's long vocation/musical journey. I should not have to justify or apologize to anyone for her artistry being a source of immense personal interest. Notice that I had contributed to her page quite often in recent months without disruption. This is how I know I was targeted, probably in an attempt to censor/silence me from continuing my contribution to the artist's Wikipedia page or any other page that I may choose to contribute to, on my own free will. Once the page got linked to an opera blogsite, sudden editing from various sources began. And my overreaction in attempting to preserve what I had carefully contributed to the page got my account revoked. What's more, I cannot understate my surprise that the Wikipedia administrators would not see this or even listen to my case. Or the wholly unfounded reasons for the revocation such as Advertising, conflict of interest, copyright infringement (other than disruptive, un-collegial editing, which is the overraction on my part, as I admitted). None of it true, just as it is fully untrue that I am someone close or related to or affiliated with the artist. The bona fide answer is no. I will never know but perhaps some of the people who triggered the event may also be Wikipedia editors/administrators themselves or well connected and able to influence the administrators. I hope I have clearly articulated the situation and looking forward to my reinstatement.
Decline reason:
Let us leave apart the irrelevant parts of your unblock request, such as the absurd suggestion of a conspiracy against you by rouge administrators and other editors, and your suggestion that there was a wicked plot to "target" and "censor" you, and let us look instead at your editing history, and how it relates to the block and to this unblock request. You repeatedly placed links to what show every sign of being copyright infringements, and simply denying what is clearly visible to anyone who checks your editing history will not encourage any administrator to unblock you. You repeatedly posted your own subjective commentary, promotional praise, and peacock words to an article, and generally did your best to make it look more like a fan page than an encyclopaedia article. You removed references and sourced content without any explanation. You did various strange and nonsensical things, such as changing dates on maintenance tags so that they gave future dates. You persistently edit warred. Perhaps the most striking feature of your editing was that you acted as though you thought you owned the article, and had a right to revert anything at all by any other editor, and impose your own preferred version (what you describe as "attempting to preserve what I had carefully contributed to the page"). I could go on, but that is enough of a list of ways in which you were disruptive to show that the block is fully justified. Whether or not you have been able to get away with similar unconstructive editing in the past is irrelevant. Likewise how the problems came to light is irrelevant: it may or may not have been due to a post on another site, but it doesn't matter, because your unblock request is assessed on the basis of how you edited, not on the basis of how people came to be aware of how you edited. While I do sympathise with editors who are blocked after acting "with honest intentions", whether your intentions were honest or not does not alter the nature of your editing. Nor does it matter whether "personal gain or self interest" was involved. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 22:39, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
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Goustaff (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
For the life of me, what do you mean by this?: "You did various strange and nonsensical things, such as changing dates on maintenance tags so that they gave future dates." Will you please elaborate because I have NOT THE FAINTEST IDEA WHAT THIS IS!!! And I really want to hear your explanation of this utter nonsense. I may have acted as if I "owned" the page in question but that is the overreaction and ensuing edit war over two or three days that we already know. As far as I am concerned, there is no limit to the number of contributions per page per contributor. If a contributor's page history appears inflated is simply due to content-enhancing activity and nothing more. If lengthy activity from one contributor gives the impression of page "ownership", that is not really my problem but yours. I never intended it to be a "fan" page either. Please tell me if the page content in its present form, including the worthy sections deleted by administrator "CorporateM", reads like a fan page. It reads, in fact, like any Wiki page of any active artist you care to name and far less bloated than many. Look around. Today, for example, I found a Wiki page for an active classical artist that shall remain unnamed containing YouTube links, happily untouched. I thought those were Verboten across the board. If so, I'd like to see them removed everywhere and everywhere. Let's move on to "peacock" words, the majority of them in the page in question coming from other contributors and maybe even from whoever created the page. It wasn't me. I have obviously lost this senseless battle and wasted precious time and energy barking at the wrong tree. But let it be clear that the last thing I expected from Wikipedia "administrators" was to turn their duties into reform or discipline school. Or worse, to act and react based on wholly erroneous assumptions (e.g., advertising, a person close to the artist, conflict of interest, copyright infringement, what else?) and to ignore what the contributor subject to the block has to say repeatedly on his or her behalf. I will eventually return to Wikipedia whenever I make that decision on my own free will; on my own free will because YOU don't "own" Wikipedia. YOU may feel powerful policing it and restricting access but, I repeat, YOU don't own it. And YOU "own" neither contributor nor his/her free will.
Decline reason:
Procedural; I'm going to handle the request at the bottom of the page. Nyttend (talk) 20:49, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
I think that the present unblock request is unlikely to be accepted, but I do think that there is a good chance of an unblock if you write a rather different unblock request, so I will say some things which I hope may help you to formulate one which does stand a good chance of success. Firstly, you seem to sincerely be unaware of some of the things you have done, I have had a quick look and found a few examples. This does not attempt to be an exhaustive list, nor even a representative list, it is just a few examples to show you doing a couple of the things which you deny having done. Nor are they necessarily the best examples of what you did: they are just the first few examples I found in quickly looking through a sample of your recent edits.
- Adding peacock wording, subjective opinion, and promotional language. Here you add the words "gifted and accomplished". Here you add the word "acclaimed". Here you add the words "What follows is an all-too-brief chronology of the soprano's four decades before the public." What is "all too brief" is a matter of opinion.
- Changing maintenance tags to show future dates. Here you changed the date in a maintenance tag date from May 2014 to October 2014. October 2014 has not yet come. That may have been a mistake, but it is a very difficult mistake to understand. I have also seen a few other edits in which you changed the dates in maintenance tags without explanation.
I am not going to give examples of you linking to copyright violations, because you must be fully aware of the fact that you have frequently linked to YouTube copies of what are clearly professional recordings, for which there can be no reasonable doubt that the uploaders were not the copyright owners. Nor am I going to waste much time on straw man arguments, such as your comment about there being "no limit to the number of contributions per page per contributor", because as far as I can see nobody except you has suggested anywhere (this page, the article's talk page, the administrators' noticeboard discussion about you, etc) that that is an issue. Also, the remarks about "a person close to the artist, conflict of interest" are not really relevant, because although one or more editors indicated that they thought that might be the case, that was not given as part of the reason for the block.
You have made some acknowledgement that you were edit warring, and exhibiting ownership tendencies, which is a step forward, and if you can follow that up then I do see a good prospect for an unblock. I suggest you stand back, look at your editing history, read the comments in the AN discussion (you can see it at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive262#Youtube links in article on opera singer), try to see what about your editing has been seen by others as problematic, and then post a new unblock request which focuses on those problems, and what you expect to do differently in the future to avoid such problems, rather than on how eunreasonable you think all the other people involved are. If you can do that, I think there is a fair chance for an unblock. If you have not already done so, I suggest that you read the guide to appealing blocks, because some of what it says is good advice which I think is likely to help you. Also, I strongly reccomend withdrawing your statement that you "will eventually return to Wikipedia whenever [you] make that decision", because I can see no way of reading that other than as a declaration of the intention to evade the block by using sockpuppets. I have, so far as I recall, never once seen an editor unblocked while he or she has an outstanding expression of intention of evading the block. Also, over the years i have found that the usual course of events when a blocked editor takes that line is that their sockpuppets are very quickly recognised for what they are, the sockpuppet accounts are blocked, edits they have made are mostly or even all reverted, and if they persist other steps may be taken, such as blocking IP ranges that they have used, protecting articles they have edited, etc. You will have a far better chance of being able to successfully return to editing if you acknowledge that there have been problems, and make it clear that you will try to avoid similar problems in future. You have already taken a big step in that direction by accepting that you made an "overreaction" and edit-warred. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 09:46, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
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[edit]Added by me, so that we don't have to scroll up almost to the top of the page just to edit this section. Nyttend (talk) 20:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I swear I never changed that maintenance tag. For what reason would anyone want to do that? But if said activity shows up as if by me then it was clearly an unintended data entry error. In the last week I learned for the first time about "peacock" words and about edit wars. About the former, I see I introduced a few, unaware of the implications. But now I see why such language is discouraged as it is subjective. About the latter, at this juncture it does not matter if I am believed, but I was set up by someone more knowledgeable than I about the ins and outs of Wikipedia content editing and fell for his game, unaware that such a thing as an edit war even existed on Wikipedia or about the consequences of engaging in one. The individual achieved his goal, which was to boot me out and to discredit me. This is how this scene unraveled. About sockpuppets, I am neither technically aware of them (again, a brand new term for me) nor interested in complicating my existence on Wikipedia. Trust me. About the important sections deleted by CorporateM (e.g., opera roles, honors and awards, collaborations) I will in some future try my best to source that information to get them restored to the page. I do not know what else to say on my behalf but there you have it. Goustaff (talk) 18:25, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- Cliff Notes version of how to (possibly) get unblocked: (1) agree to stop edit-warring and engaging in ownership of an article and to use the article's talk page to work out disagreements (2) agree to read and abide by our neutral point of view policies, (3) agree to read and follow our reliable sources policy. OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:36, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
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Goustaff (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I agree to no longer engage in edit wars, to "disown" the article in question (was never my intention to own it, while admitting I have been its most active contributor of late), and to discuss content disagreements in the article's Talk page. I also agree to write neutrally and to avoid inserting subjective content. In a future, I will seek reliable sources in order to reinstate the deleted sections I wrote about earlier. Goustaff (talk) 20:00, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Accept reason:
Thank you; the biggest reason I blocked you indefinitely is that there didn't seem to be any other way to get you to stop and consider our policies. Now that you've looked at them and are willing to try to work within them, there's no reason for you to stay blocked, since blocks aren't supposed to be punishment. Please be careful not to get into a pattern of reverting other people, and please remember that YouTube links are very rarely appropriate. You should always feel free to request help, or just an opinion, at my talk page if you want technical assistance, a third opinion, or anything else. Nyttend (talk) 20:55, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
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