User talk:Grandmaster/Archive 6
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FYI: ArbCom Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case
Please see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Armenia-Azerbaijan 3. -- Cat chi? 18:05, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Andranikpasha and RfAr enforcement
I wish I had been aware of this page before it got closed, but I've commented below Moreschi's close. If I still need to clarify my findings further please advise. ++Lar: t/c 15:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Your question about discussing in talk on the Artaxiad checkuser
I refactored your question to the talk page and answer it there. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 18:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Grandmaster. Can you please verify if these dancers are really from Azerbaijan? They are dressed in Georgian costumes. Perhaps they are Azeris performing a Georgian dance? Thanks, --KoberTalk 20:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- I think you should contact User:Baku87, who took the picture. But to me Caucasian costumes are not so different from each other, so they most probably are Azerbaijanis. But in any case it is better to check with the unloader. Take care. --Grandmaster (talk) 05:23, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you, Grand. An anon has expressed some doubts on the image's page, claiming that the picture belongs to the Sukhishvili ensemble from Tbilisi; so I decided to make things clearer. Best, --KoberTalk 05:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- You are welcome. Grandmaster (talk) 05:50, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- These are North Georgian costumes/ dances. The Lezgin of Azerbaijan dress similar but are different. Their women dress more colorful and their men in black or white. I might be wrong about that but I am sure I have seen this picture before, because I have movie of these dances, bought from Georgia.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 17:26, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- You are welcome. Grandmaster (talk) 05:50, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you, Grand. An anon has expressed some doubts on the image's page, claiming that the picture belongs to the Sukhishvili ensemble from Tbilisi; so I decided to make things clearer. Best, --KoberTalk 05:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Grandmaster, I found that the article about Qizilbash's contains some incorrect information and when I edited my edits were undone by some unknown users without any explanation. What would you recommend to do?.-Thanks Gulmammad (talk) 02:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- That IP is banned user User:Tajik. You can revert him as many times as you like, he is not allowed to edit Wikipedia. You can complain to admins if he continues to cause problems. Grandmaster (talk) 06:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Wikiquote username
Dear Kalki. I hereby request a username change at the above wikimedia project. Thank you. Regards, Grandmaster (talk) 06:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ehud Lesar/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ehud Lesar/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, — Rlevse • Talk • 02:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Topic ban at Shusha pogrom
Under the terms of Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2, the following sanctions are enacted.
- For persistent edit-warring over the Waal source, Andranikpasha is banned from editing Shusha pogrom for two weeks. He may make suggestions on the talk page.
- For persistent edit-warring over the Waal source and for failing to actually read either their own edits or Meowy's talk page comments about the duplicated paragraphs, Atabek and Grandmaster are banned from editing Shusha pogrom for 3 weeks and banned from commenting on the talk page for one week. (Since they won't actually take the time to read and comprehend others' comments, their own privilege to comment is temporarily suspended.
- Andranikpasha, Grandmaster and Atabek are reminded that during their bans they are not to instruct other editors to edit on their behalf, called proxy editing. Evidence of proxy editing will result in blocking for both the editor directing the edits and the proxy making them.
For more information see [1]. Thatcher 02:47, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
DYK
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This guy has awarded themself a barnstar and signed your name to it. Corvus cornixtalk 05:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- That guy is up to no good. I awarded that barnstar to the admin User:Nlu. If you file a complaint, I will support you. Grandmaster (talk) 05:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I mentioned it at WP:ANI and the guy got blocked for 31 hours, but the barnstars are still there. Corvus cornixtalk 05:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I added my comment there. I hope admins will take care of it. Thanks for letting me know. Grandmaster (talk) 05:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I mentioned it at WP:ANI and the guy got blocked for 31 hours, but the barnstars are still there. Corvus cornixtalk 05:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Kosovo
I can understand your concerns regarding the independence of Kosovo, as it might function as a precedent for the independence of Qarabagh (btw. This is another illogical move by the Panturkists from the rep. Azerbaijan who put claims on Iranian territory;) )Deleting the article won't help, but it would be more helpful to make an article to show the legal aspects of territorial integrity. I can support you in that. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 19:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi there. Aren't you tired of this "pan-Turkist" label? The article is POV because you cannot create articles about something that has not happened. However the topic can be covered in other articles about the region. Grandmaster (talk) 07:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- I am tired of Panturkists but not about warning against them. Kosovo already DID declare already independece. Unilaterally declaration of independence will destabailze the the Caucasus, Iran and Iraq. So you will count on much support by rallying against it --Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Panturkists are people who want to create Great Turan. I never met one in real life, so I don't know who you are talking about. I have no personal issues with anyone here, and me and Atabek have quite a good record of cooperating with Iranian editors. We have our disagreements, but eventually settle on versions acceptable to both sides. I think cooperation is good for everyone and helps creating better articles. Grandmaster (talk) 10:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes this is the discourse in the 2000s but in the early 1990s was different! ;)--Babakexorramdin (talk) 10:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Talking about these stuff. Tell them these provocations are counterproductive http://81.169.138.199/tabriztv --Babakexorramdin (talk) 15:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes this is the discourse in the 2000s but in the early 1990s was different! ;)--Babakexorramdin (talk) 10:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Panturkists are people who want to create Great Turan. I never met one in real life, so I don't know who you are talking about. I have no personal issues with anyone here, and me and Atabek have quite a good record of cooperating with Iranian editors. We have our disagreements, but eventually settle on versions acceptable to both sides. I think cooperation is good for everyone and helps creating better articles. Grandmaster (talk) 10:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Magomayev.jpg
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Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ehud Lesar
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The indefinite block on Ehud Lesar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is hereby reversed as it has not been demonstrated that he is a sockpuppet of AdilBaguirov (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Necessary actions will be performed by an arbitrator. The sockpuppetry accusations are found to have been made in good faith. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, — Rlevse • Talk • 22:57, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
ANS
Hi Grandmaster, I just got a problem with the logo of ANS Group of Companies. In wizard I forgot to provide license information. Later I tried to provide but couldn't find a way of doing that. I will appreciate your help on this matter. Thanks in advance. Gulmammad (talk) 20:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks very much for your attention. The image has been removed anyway, but I re-uploaded under logo license. Now it works pretty well. Gulmammad (talk) 01:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
wikisource needs you
Hi Grandmaster, we have two candidates for CU on Wikisource, and we need to accumulate 25 votes in favour in order to be approved. While I am one of the candidates, I dont mind whether you vote for or against me; this note is just to ensure that you know that as you are a serious contributor to Wikisource, and we dont have many, your input is desirable at this stage. John Vandenberg (talk) 05:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Image
Thank you for that information, I was not aware of this usage. The image is actually a copyvio, taken from here, and listed for deletion at Wikimedia Commons. Under the US rules, the copyright term has not yet expired (1946 + 70 > 2008). Therefore it appears to me that here is no point in restoring the image, unless you have an argument that under Georgian copyright law the image is free, and that the copyright claim by the Georgian Association for the History of Photography in the Caucasus is unfounded. --Lambiam 09:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- If the image "fits the PD description", that implies that there is no copyvio. I've restored the image. Do you have concrete citable evidence that the image is from before 1923? That could be used to save the image from deletion at the Commons. --Lambiam 09:46, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- even if it was taken before 1923 the image belongs to someone, an owner who scanned the image, making it his intellectual property, and it was clearly stated the individual has copyrighted the image. It is like sotheby's - they own the image they took of whatever they sell. Dear Lambiam, please see this fairly from point of owner of image, and unfair theft of it by illegal uploading.70.21.139.214 (talk) 18:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- If the image is in the public domain, it is not owned by anyone. Uploading an image that is no one's property is not theft; the material is available for anyone to use for any purpose. When Sotheby's or Christie's sells a Van Gogh painting, it is the physical object forming is the painting that changes ownership; what is sold in the tranaction is not the image. By the way, I am not an administrator. --Lambiam 19:00, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree with what you are saying, but the artefact/photo is property of the georgian mesuem site, I do not know if they are a public organization and their copyright laws, and the actual act of photographing something means intellect property - ie mont rushmore.69.125.221.82 (talk) 01:51, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Re: Verjakette
Sorry I forgot you! It seems the archival got lost in the way, thanks for pointing it! I will block the confirmed sock right away. When that happens (a confirmed sock), don't hesitate to ping a clerk or any administrator familiar to the case (in fact non clerks are often the ones who can act the most correctly, since they now the full history). Thanks again! -- lucasbfr talk 10:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Kalbajar
Hi Grandmaster, I am looking for a map in which Kalbajar is shown correctly. One that was put by Golbez does not show the region correctly. Thanks. --Gulmammad (talk) 15:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I have invented something very strange: almost all maps of administrative regions of Azerbaijan have been uploaded by Golbez, who is Armenian and in all of them map of Kalbajar is modified. Do you know some way to clean up this garbage from wikipedia or stop this editor? --Gulmammad (talk) 16:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. Golbez is not Armenian. He is a third party admin and you can point him any mistakes that you found. I'm sure he will be glad to fix them. Try contacting him on his talk page or via email. Grandmaster (talk) 19:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Meta RfC
There's a dispute at Meta:Requests for comments/User:Vusal1981 that needs someone that can speak Azerbaijani. If you wouldn't mind peeking at what the two parties are saying and verify the veracity of the claims, or possibly even give an opinion on the matter, it'd be helpful. Thanks! ~Kylu (u|t) 17:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
KurtCobain27
I would like to bring to your attention that KurtCobain27 (contribs) (or 89.242.93.126 (contribs)) has been created for vandalizing an article about Azerbaijani passport. Although I have reverted his/her edits and warned many times, this user keeps vandalizing the article by adding inappropriate material. In my talk page you can see his/her reaction. -Thanks --Gulmammad (talk) 20:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, seems like a vandal to me. He's been dealt with by Golbez. Let me know if the problem persists. Grandmaster (talk) 06:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Artsakh WP
You're editwarring over removing this. If you want it gone, file an RFC and consult the wider community - if it goes, it will have to be done by a neutral editor. Doing a constant revert cycle isn't going to cut it. --Golbez (talk) 18:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- Terribly sorry. I went back to re-read the WPNK page, and was wondering why I didn't remember actually reading a WP on NK. And then realized it redirected to.. WP Armenia. So. In that case, yes, you are completely in the right, and I apologize profusely for my above statements. --Golbez (talk) 18:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up, I'll keep an eye out. --Golbez (talk) 18:36, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Please consider taking the AGF Challenge
I would like to invite you to consider taking part in the AGF Challenge which has been proposed for use in the RfA process [3] by User: Kim Bruning. You can answer in multiple choice format, or using essay answers, or anonymously. You can of course skip any parts of the Challenge you find objectionable or inadvisable.--Filll (talk) 20:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
proofreading
Hi, could you please proofread s:ru:Страница:Zwei-Plus-Vier-Vertrag.djvu/25 , that page should be the Russian title of Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany ; once I have the title, I should be able to find the Russian text online. John Vandenberg (chat) 05:53, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. It is the correct Russian title, the full text in Russian is available here: [4] I hope this helps. Grandmaster (talk) 06:22, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you; I have copied the text from the page you suggested, and have created ru:ДΟГΟΒΟΡ ΟБ ΟКΟНЧАТЕПЬНΟМ УРЕГУЛИРΟВАНИИ В ΟТНΟШЕНИИ ГЕΡМАНИИ. I think that title is in "all caps", which is probably incorrect naming convention, but I dont speak Russian so I hope they will forgive me if I have broken some rules. John Vandenberg (chat) 08:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Lachin
I never said the NKR renamed it, they don't have that authority, even granted by themselves. The citizens there, however, appear to have taken to calling it Kashatagh, regardless again of whether or not the Azeri depopulation was legitimate or not - the fact is, the local people call it something other than the government, and it's sourceable. I think that warrants mentioning. --Golbez (talk) 06:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Salam
Qardash "Nizami" yazisinin neytralliğıını qəbul etmirem, amma ingilis dilini də pis bilirəm. Bilirəm sən burda çox çalışmısan. Heç olmasa bu yaziya ssılkani nece saxlatdira bilərik ki, gələcəkdə nəzərə alan olsun?
Adilin yazısıni həmin variantda mən sadələşdirib, orda yerləşdirmişəm. 4-5 vərəq olar. Uşaqlardan ingilis dilinə tərcümə edə bilən olsa, ingilis və yahudi saytlarinda belə bir variantin yayilması çox işə təsir edə bilər
Burada biz demək olar ki, bu variantla çox iş görmüşük. Rantik (talk) 14:06, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Mende qapi acıqdır, üzdeir, sende görünmür. Sən yaz Rantik (talk) 12:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Javad khan Qajar
I have already removed own edition from the page of Javad Khan for the degree of doubt was significant. Alborz informed me yesterday that he found one of my claims to be true as Javad Khan was indeed a member of royal Qajars, according to Dr. Bahman Qajar. I appreciate your efforts on the Azerbaijan related articles. God Bless You. --Faikpro (talk) 07:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- According to the research by Dr.Bahmani-e-Qajar , Shahverdi-Soltan-e-Zeyad oghlou-e-Qajar,was the Beglerbegi of Qarabagh in 961 AH ,(also said by Iranica here) :
The Safavids left Arran to local Turkish khans, so that we find Ganja in 961-62/1554 governed by Shahverdi Soltáan Zyad-oghlu Qajar (whose family came to govern Qarabagh in southern Arran) when Shah Tahmasb I passed through it on his return from campaigning against the Georgians (Röhrborn, p. 4).
Shahverdi Khan had two sons : Khalil Khan and Rayiss Khan . Khalil was father of Mohammad , Mohammad was father of Mohammad Ali , Mohammad ali was Father of Oghroulou , Oghoulou --> Kablali(Karbaliyee) ---> Hasanali --->Shahverdi ---> Javad Khan . Rayiss Khan was father of Hossen Khan of Astarabad and the grand father of the Qajar royal family in Iran . --Alborz Fallah (talk) 09:32, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Good. I know they were related to the Qajar dynasty of Iran. Grandmaster (talk) 10:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Shubani Atesh Kadeh
Is not it time to create an article on Shubani Atesh Kadeh (or Atesh Gah)? The only source I have ever known was Manaf Suleymanov's book about old Baku. Do yoy have any other ideas of that Atesh Kadeh?--Faikpro (talk) 19:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- There's an article about that. Please see Fire Temple of Baku. You can enhance or improve it. Grandmaster (talk) 09:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Request
Hi GM, could you verify the accuracy of this edit? I can't seem to find any English sources on his wife. Khoikhoi 21:35, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- It is true that he left a son whose name is Fuad, it is supported by sources: [5]. I will check if there's anything about his wife. Grandmaster (talk) 05:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Vacio
Ah, see this thread on my page: User_talk:Rlevse#User_Vacio. The plot thickens. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:50, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Azad qadın
There is an image on Azerbaijan page which claims that it's the "Azad Qadın Heykəli", while it's just a figure from a facade of an unrelated building in Baku. Could you find/make an original photo of the Azad Qadın monument, the one near Nizami subway station? Thanks. Atabəy (talk) 23:34, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, but not right now, as the building behind it and the square where the statue is located are being renovated. Once it's finished, I will take its picture. Grandmaster (talk) 13:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Strabo/Syunik
Maybe i'm missing something here but where does Syunik fit in all of this?-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 20:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Artsakh
See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement#User:Vacio. Both you and Vacio are warned, the article is full protected and Vacio is now under AA/AA2 restrictions. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:16, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
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Baku Metro
First my congratulations with Nəsimi! And second, I recently came round to finally revamp the article (yes it took me two and half years to do so...). I need feedback, since there is still a hell lot to do, but the overall structure is now set (the revamp did remove a lot of rather useless information...hence the shorter length). Also what's your view on using authentic Azeri script for titling the stations? Lastly Baku Railway Terminal needs an article, its not even mentioned in the Baku#Transport and communication section... --Kuban Cossack (По-балакаем?) 16:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks Kuban Kazak. Re Baku Railway Terminal - good idea. I'll try to gather some information. Chippolino (talk) 16:11, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Англовики: Азербайджанский язык
Grandmaster, спасибо за переименование назад статьи. Какой филолог догадался дать имя Azeri? Наверно, тот, кто считает, что азербайджанский язык является языком Азербайджанской Республики лишь во вторую очередь, а в первую - языком иранских азербайджанцев. Ds02006 (talk) 06:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- Кое у кого возникла идея, что национальность и гражданство совпадать не должны, хотя это происходит повсюду в мире. Я еще не разобрался, что еще успели переименовать, но началось все с переименования статьи про азербайджанцев. Спасибо за поддержку. Grandmaster (talk) 07:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Atashgah
Dear Grandmaster, I did my best to de-hindu-ize the Atashgah of Baku and give a more local friendly (= Zoroastrian) description. I do not need acknowledgement from the editors from the republic of Azerbaijan but I have a problem here. I think you guys from the republic of Azerbaijan have enough sources to prove the zoroastrian origin of this bulding. Actually I am still very unhappy about the state of article right now. It is still very much Hindu dominated. But Ok a part of problem seems to be that the musem conservators there in baku have made some Hindu human maquettes. Can you please research this issue in Baku? Has India or any other Hindu paid for the musem? Are there any other sections in the museum which provide more evidences for its Zoroastrian basis?--Babakexorramdin (talk) 22:27, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'll see what I can do. Grandmaster (talk) 06:59, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
- Dear Grandmaster please mobilize editors from the republic of Azerbaijan to deffend Atashgah from Hindu fundamentalists. As you see I have also mobilized Iranians in this. Despite the recent political issues (oil etc...) people of Iran and people of republic of Azerbaijan are united in their heritage and history. You also said that I send you an email, but I do not have your email.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 10:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Re-categorization of cities, towns and villages in Azerbaijan
Hi -- I noticed that the category for cities towns and villages in Azerbaijan contains more than 5,900 articles. I am considering creating categories for cities towns and villages in each province, and filing the articles under those. This should make the articles easier to find and use. Do you think this is a good idea? I'd like comments from you and any others in the Azerbaijan project before I start working on it. Aelfthrytha (talk) 01:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- I've created the separate categories now -- if you find time to help sort, or could invite others to help, that would help a lot. I'll start sorting myself, but it will take some time. Aelfthrytha (talk) 02:15, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Possibly unfree Image:Albanian stone.jpg
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JD554
Hi, if you were looking into the request I e-mailed you, there's no longer any need to. Ryulong has fixed my login. --JD554 (talk) 09:39, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry I could not help you. I'm not an admin. I'm glad that everything is alright. Grandmaster 10:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Is Grandmaster a Masonic member?
Hi, you have chosen the name Grandmaster (Grand Master). Please, are you determined to become the Grand Master of a Masonic Lodge? You seem to be a member with ambitious masonic plans.Thanks.--Zuluzuljinho (talk) 16:13, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- As my name suggests, I'm already a Grand Master, so I do not need to become one. I hope this answers your question. Grandmaster 16:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Grandmaster, Could you help me in archiving and neating-up my userpage? It is long overdue and I am not so good in technicalities of the wiki. Best,--Aynabend (talk) 11:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Ahmadiyya Jabrayilov
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February 2009
Your recent edit to the page Armenian-Tatar massacres 1905-1907 appears to have added incorrect information and has been reverted or removed. All information in this encyclopedia must be verifiable in a reliable, published source. If you believe the information that you added was correct, please cite the references or sources or before making the changes, discuss them on the article's talk page. Please use the sandbox for any other tests that you may do and take a look at the welcome page, if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thank you. VartanM (talk) 09:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Hei are u admin of Azeri section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alakbaroff (talk • contribs) 21:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
How can I stop Kansas Bear?
I edited the page Azeri Genocide but some Armenians are really so aggressive.For example my citations always being deleted.For march days firstly the man Kansas Bear wanted a reference when I added the reference he removed the section from article. please help me. Thanks.Abbatai (talk) 20:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- The way wikipedia works, you need to cite sources that describe the event as genocide. I don't think this article is worse than other similar genocide articles around here, but you need to find more sources to support your position. Try http://books.google.com/. Grandmaster 08:02, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Azerbaijan cities, towns, villages recat
Hi -- I've finished the recategorization at last, after two months and probably 5,000 edits. However, there are still a bunch of cities, towns, and villages in Baku and Nakhchivan which don't fall into the Rayon categories. How do you think those should be handled? Aelfthrytha (talk) 04:58, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Good to know about the Nakhchivan situation -- but most of the articles for Rayons in Nakhchivan don't have rayon labels on them. That's the real reason why I don't know how to sort them. Suggestions? Aelfthrytha (talk) 16:07, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
A vandal on Azerbaijani pages
Dear Grandmaster
there is a new vandal on the Azerbaijani pages called Azturkk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Azturkk he is pushing the Panturkist POV way too much and replaced every word of Azeri or Azerbaijani with Turk. In fact he wants to say that there exist no Azeris. Please help to take action against his vandalism.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 11:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think it would be better if you discussed this with admins. I have no power to stop anyone, unfortunately. Grandmaster 12:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Nowruz
Dear Granmaster I want to congratulate you and editors from the republic of Azerbaijan with Nowruz and our traditional new year.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 18:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I wish all the best to you, your family and your country. --Grandmaster 06:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- Bayramın mübarek olsun.... siza yeni xoşbəxt il ve gözəl bahara arzu ediram.Allaha tapşıram.--Alborz Fallah (talk) 06:44, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- sağ ol , sağ ol...--Alborz Fallah (talk) 07:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Russian Wikipedia
Salam dear Grandmaster, As I see you as a natural leader and the wisest man of the editors from the republic of Azerbaijan I say this to you: As you know there are certain sensetive issus for Iranians, which editors from the republic of Azerbaijan do not respect always. On the other hand Iranians are not involved in issues which are sensetive to the editors from the republic of Azerbaijan for example issues with regard to Armenians. It is therefore advisable that it dosn't get out of hand before its late. Regarding the common history, culture, religion and language it is absurd that editors from the republic of Azerbaijan and Iranians get into edit wars for things which are not necessary. It was at Russian wiki and shortly observed this. I do not say that you command them but they defintely respect you --Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:03, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think fighting over Latin or Arabic script for the Azeri names is a good idea. After all, it is the language that matters. In my opinion, there's no point in fighting over minor issues like this. Grandmaster 16:13, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- this is exactly what I am saying it might be not a sensetive issue in the republic of Azerbaijan but for Iranians is. It is regarded as an effort to deprive Iran from its history and territory. Also things such as Southern Azerbaijan (instead of Azerbaijan) oe the ...Gulf might evoke angry reactions. As you know there are some forces who want to disintegrate Iran (bad for the whole region), therefore any simple thing which is associated with that can trigger hypersensitivity among Iranians. It would be pity if we cannot solve this. If you have observed you saw that Also Armenians had disrespected Iranian sensitivities on many occasions, but wisely enough they chose not to insist on them and avoid irritations. I think the Armenian- republic of Azerbaijan issues are too time and energy consuming for both side and neither need a new issue.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:23, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- But the name Southern Azerbaijan is just a geographical term. It is widely used in scholarly literature. If you try to remove it, someone will add it back, because it is an accepted term, especially in Russia. As for Azeri script, it is just an alphabet, I really don't understand how it could deprive Iranians of their history. Really, the only thing that matters are facts. If they are accurate and verifiable, then there should be no problems. I don't think anyone in Russian wiki will agree to remove the Azeri script, just because I tell them so. Let's be realistic. It is really not such a big deal. Also, Azeri community in the Russian wiki is very numerous, it is much bigger than that here. It is impossible to reach out to everyone there. Grandmaster 04:55, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- Azeri editors in wikipedia are a team. I won't reveal their names. As for the alphabet: it is simple it is a newly invented alphabet and the Pro-Turkey Elchibey was pushing for it. It has no roots in the history and we in Iran do not use it. As you have sen, we never remove that alphabet from aryticles which have mainly to do with the republic of Azerbaijan, for the same I would want that editors from the republic of Azerbaijan will respect us. Also southern Azerbaijan is a new neologism. In Iran it is Azerbaijan. As a concensus we have offered the Iranian Azerbaijan. Southern Azerbaijan is a terminology made first by the Soviets, but now it is used widely by the Anti-Iranian forces and irredentists movements. As for the content: you have now an advantageous position because not many Iranians know Russian, but it will change in the future, so it is better we will reach concensus on those matters soon or late. The anti-Iraniasm by some editors from republic of Azerbaijan is amazing and is not logical at all As I said the two country share history, culture, religion and language. On the other hand I do not get why they are crazy about Turkey? I mean we Iranians respect Turkey asa neighbour but do not humilate ourselves and falsify our history for their sake. Wasn't it the ottoman Empire that has genociede so many Azeris in the course of history? I know that it is irrelavant in Iran now, but in the republic of Azerbaijan , it seems, that historiography has a extraordinary high place, so also that is not very logical.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 07:54, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- Dear Grandmaster, you said that Alphabet is not important. yet the Republic of Azerbaijan team asked to block me, when I proposed to include our alphabet to your cities. If Azeri has two alphabets then it should be included in all Azeri-related pages in both countries, but if you think you can exclude our alphabet from your pages, then we have the same rights to exclude yours in our pages. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- Iranians have nothing to do with your issues with Armenians. So any arbitration in that matter is irrelevant. But the edtors from the republic of Azerbaijan are making trouble with Iran in a manner detrimental to themselves. They are relying on the power of their numbers at the Russian wikipedia. Overall there are more Iranians everywhere and it is just a matter of time to revert the lies posed at the Russian wikipedia. And now you are saying wrong things. I asked you ina good faith to stop the behaviors by the racial-nationalistic editors from the republic of Azerbaijan. May I remind you that I was not the one who removes the Latin versions, but it is you that removes the Iranian-Azeri versions? What right do you have to include your owwn alphabet in our pages, when you insist that we do not include our alphabet to yours? It is arrogance and territorial agression. You can say that it is just wikipedia, but I have seen the publications from the republic of Azerbaijan which usurp Iranian history and territory. This will ultimately lead to a conflict much bigger than the Karabakh conflict. Wikipedia could have been a non-political source and if your editors were not this nationalistic and cahuvinistic these could be turn positive for everyone, unfortunately your editors have chosen for confrontation and agression. And please do not say talk about it at Russian wikipedia. Your guyz have asked Voyager to block me and now you say ak in the Russian wikipedia? that is not fair. Moreover their behaviour is causing uneasy feeling among all Iranians, and if you know that there are 70 million Iranians, the chances are great that soon or later people, registered or not again revert their agression and wrong information. Please do not make wikipedia a political battleground. It is just en encyclopedia, and should be factual correct.As a sign of respect you can remove the latin versions from the Russian pages which concern Iranian territory and history, to begin with.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 10:07, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- But the name Southern Azerbaijan is just a geographical term. It is widely used in scholarly literature. If you try to remove it, someone will add it back, because it is an accepted term, especially in Russia. As for Azeri script, it is just an alphabet, I really don't understand how it could deprive Iranians of their history. Really, the only thing that matters are facts. If they are accurate and verifiable, then there should be no problems. I don't think anyone in Russian wiki will agree to remove the Azeri script, just because I tell them so. Let's be realistic. It is really not such a big deal. Also, Azeri community in the Russian wiki is very numerous, it is much bigger than that here. It is impossible to reach out to everyone there. Grandmaster 04:55, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- this is exactly what I am saying it might be not a sensetive issue in the republic of Azerbaijan but for Iranians is. It is regarded as an effort to deprive Iran from its history and territory. Also things such as Southern Azerbaijan (instead of Azerbaijan) oe the ...Gulf might evoke angry reactions. As you know there are some forces who want to disintegrate Iran (bad for the whole region), therefore any simple thing which is associated with that can trigger hypersensitivity among Iranians. It would be pity if we cannot solve this. If you have observed you saw that Also Armenians had disrespected Iranian sensitivities on many occasions, but wisely enough they chose not to insist on them and avoid irritations. I think the Armenian- republic of Azerbaijan issues are too time and energy consuming for both side and neither need a new issue.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:23, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
recent edits
I think we can reach a concensus regarding the usage of Iranian-Azeri alphabets on your pages, if all Latin spellings are removed from the Iranian cities and Persons in the Russian wikipedia. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 13:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Can i seek your opinion
Could you take a look at this article please. It appears i might be in an edit war which i dont want. I made a simple change to two words which i felt were loaded and contravened wikipedias NPOV policy. No changes to the context or substance of the article was made. It seems that three other users are taking turns to revert the article to include words that push a POV. I have read the guidelines and sought to have a discussion on the talk page, unfortunately they seem to not want to discuss it and continue using those specific words only. Your advice would be much appreciated and if I am in the wrong (i have read all the guidlines and WP policies and know I am consistent with them) I wont pursue it. Xaghan (talk) 02:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
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Khanates
Dear Grandmaster. Just look that I have not deleted the Azerbaijani names from the Khanates. As I said no one is disputing the ethnicity of Iranian subjects there. The whole problem is that the the Iranian ownership of those Khanates at those dates are not negotiable, because we cannot rewrite history due to our taste. History should be told in an unbiased way. This should not be confused with the Armenian- republic of Azerbaijan disputes. cheers--Babakexorramdin (talk) 01:07, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not rewriting history, I'm citing sources, and you don't. That's not the way Wikipedia works. Grandmaster 12:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
- Please Grandmaster. I am not an enemy. I am just working towrds improvement of these articles. Sources should relate to the subject, the cotext be clear and not misinterpreted. Look what atabek or Brandmeister had done with those mistranslations from Russia. I did not oppose them in putting sources material, just that they should be neutral and do not push their POV when they are following their political agenda. You are a reasonable guy.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 17:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
The march days
I did not removed it. Look at the notes section. I'm trying to improve the readability of the text remember this is an article, not a collection of quotes, or "wiki-quotes" I'm trying to be fair. please help. --InRe.Po (talk) 19:19, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
- You can remove anything else, but that one must remain. It is the most important one.Grandmaster 19:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
- You should first stop claiming removed. It is not removed. The quote in question is a summary of the event. (from the first day, to the end) If you put that summary in the middle of the text, it kills the flow of the text. At the place where the text is located I already included the relevant sentence. There is a link to the total summary which you can click and scroll down the text. I hope you can see this and let it be. I'm not your enemy or any person who is against your. Just interested in the article. Try to learn about it and improve the text. --InRe.Po (talk) 19:37, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
- This is FUBAR. Your "quote" is not removed. Stop claiming removed. This is not about removing a source. You say "it explains what happened and why," This should be explained in the article from not one but many sources. Why to read the article if you keep the summary in the middle. Otherwise there is no meaning for this article. But it seems, there is no reason to try to reconcile with you, you do not respond well... You should keep Good Faith and trust other people, because I'm sincerely trying to improve this article. --InRe.Po (talk) 19:54, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you, before the question. I just read the article from beginning to the end. Search the web and short summaries I found on different sources. As today, established in the article; there is a social unrest, and a political purge. There is a possible intention (establishing a greater Armenia) but there is no direct (like CSI type, evidence of crime) link to this intention and the actions of people in the region. Where is Genocide in this event? Who Where How When? If Stepan Shahumyan is not member of ARF, how Azeri people link ARF to the intentions of Stepan Shahumyan? If Stepan Shahumyan wanted to ethnically cleanse the Azeri people what was in his disposal to persuade ARF's militia to do the deed in Baku province? There is no direct evidance of ARF wanted to ethnically cleanse Azeri people. Where is concentration camps (if exists for this case)? Where is death squats (if exists for this case)? If there are death squats, who controlled them (names of these people). Where is the evidence in the article that separates this event from simple social unrest? PS:Just interested in the article and the event. And if you know anything about these questions, would you add them to the article so that I can go and verify. If you do not know, thanks again for everything. --InRe.Po (talk) 14:13, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
- The massacre was not limited to Baku. There was a large scale massacre all over Baku governorate, and the large towns of Shemakha and Guba practically leveled to the ground by dashnaks. The Muslim population of Baku was also massacred and ethnically cleansed. The article does not claim that it was a genocide, but many Azerbaijani sources do. I think for the sake of neutrality we must state that it is a position of Azerbaijan, which is in fact done. Genocide claims are attributed to Azerbaijan. But there's no doubt that this was a large scale ethnic massacre of Muslim population. The neutral sources say so. If ARF was not intending to ethnically cleanse the city, then why did they massacre the civilian population in Baku and outside of it? Shahumyan provoked the ethnic massacre to take the power, and he allowed the Armenians to kill Muslims, so we can only guess why. But he pretty much admitted that he deliberately provoked the massacre (he said: we were going for it deliberately). Btw, what is your native tongue? While your contributions are useful, sometimes it is hard to understand what certain sentences mean. Maybe, we should ask a native English speaker for assistance with clean up? Grandmaster 16:40, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Eurovision 2009 i
Dear Granmaster Ihave always believed that Iran and the republic of Azerbaijan are two fraternal nations. I am sorry about the recent controversy about depiction of Tabrizi monument. Just to inform you. Not all Iranians say that republic of Azerbaijan did it on purpuse. Many blame the Russian organizers. The ;inkage with irredentism are not out of blue either,. If you are fair you see that there are such claims among certain circles in the republic of Azerbaijan. Just remember the behavior of those editors in the Russian wikipedia and those of Atabey and Branmeister. people we know them in wikipedia. There are many more outside. Having said this I think the reaction of republic of Azerbaijanis is wrong in this. They are now denying the whole thing. Denying is senseless, because we all know that that has happened. The best strategy to lessen tensions is to say we do not know how it happened, and an official appology for this misunderstanding will solve the issue. The problem is begun because republic of Azerbaijan has protested similar issue in the Armenian promotional clip. In such a context it is a double standard to say that depiction of Iran in the clip of Republic of Azerbaijan was not bad. It is up to politicians to protest or to offer appology and clarify the mistake. I think the organizers should offer appology in any case and they help to identify the lobby groups that were responsible for this. I just said this in order to avoid tensions and edit wars in wikipedia over such a thing. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 21:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
- It looks like you still do not understand how wikipedia works. We don't say if something is good or bad, our personal opinion is irrelevant here. We only report what reliable sources say. So far no one criticized Azerbaijan for showing that monument in their clip. Opinions of people at blogs and forums are not reliable sources. No one protested at the governmental level, as Azerbaijan did for the Armenian clip. So we have nothing to report. If you wanna know my personal opinion, I don't think that it is a big deal, after all Arash is Iranian, and his ancestors hailed from Ardabil, according to him. So if they showed the monument in Tabriz, it does not mean that Azerbaijan claims a territory from Iran, they probably just wanted to demonstrate that the performers hailed both from Azerbaijan and Iran. Not a good idea, but I think that's what they meant. Grandmaster 12:37, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think you do not understand what i say. I say I just report what has happened, without having my own opinion involved. Arash is not from Ardebil by the way and the moument is not from Aradebil either. Believe it or not certain circles in the republic of Azerbaijan, supported by the American neo-conservatives, have territorial claims on Iran. Both governments however try to neglect these forces.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 14:12, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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Bulgarian charts listed on WP:BADCHARTS
Please do not add the Bulgarian Singles Chart, or any other charts listed at WP:BADCHARTS, to any Wikipedia articles. Thank you.—Kww(talk) 12:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Reply
Sounds ominous. I apologise for not inserting my input into the article until the last moment (I'm busy writing a thesis and cannot be everywhere at once) but you truly are convinced that there was no other avenue or option? Has the atmosphere been so poisoned on this website to have rendered discussions and the resolving of issues peacefully completely pointless and irrelevant?--The Diamond Apex (talk) 15:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Teşekkürler
Billboard'daki arama ile şarkılara erişebildiğimizi sayenizde öğrenmiş oldum. Çok teşekkür ederim. Ayrıca da Azerbaycan'a sevgiler. :) --Triancula (talk) 05:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Shihan
If there was a direct relationship, it would have arisen during the initial CU, and it did not. Kurdo's excess alternative accounts have been closed and routed to one major account, and there is no evidence of current sockpuppetry, so a check is inappropriate. If there is new evidence, an SPI should be filed. Thanks. -- Avi (talk) 16:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Khanates
dear Grandmaster I think there is no big problem about the Khanates if those concerns are respected. Certain ani-Iranian editors like Atabey (and Goldrack) and Brandmeister have an anti-Iranian agenda and distort the whole edits in a way they want to minimize the Iranian legacy. This POV pushing is not acceptable. I do not see any disagreements between us Other than that.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 06:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I do not think the above users have any anti-Iranian agenda. They only want the facts to be accurately reflected. It is true that Iran had no control over the North of Araks after the death of Nadir shah. I cited many sources about that. But formally the region was considered a part of Iran. Grandmaster 06:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I do not want to go in deep about those editors, but they are part of an organization that has invited many neocons and Brenda Shaffer and spoke about bombing Iran. These Khnates were no different than other parts of Iran. That was just Zand dynasty style--Babakexorramdin (talk) 10:44, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I cited my sources. Do you suggest that we must ignore them? Grandmaster 10:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well I think we should agree upon our shared history and safegaurd it against anyone, be it these editors or any other be it Armenian, Russian, Turks etc...--Babakexorramdin (talk) 10:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I never deny the historical facts. And in this case it is simple. The khanates north of Araks were Iranian provinces until 1747, and when the central power in Iran became weak, they became independent little states, which waged wars with each other, and sometimes with Qajar dynasty. Formally they recognized suzerainty of the Iranian shahs, but were fully autonomous in their affairs, minted their own coins, had their own armies, etc. We need to find a suitable wording to describe the situation, so that it was acceptable for both sides of the dispute. Grandmaster 06:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- After Nader's death Iranian empire came into a chaos and Karim Khan allowed extensive autonomy, but the empire was not disintegrated. The khanates which were not taken by Russians notably Nakhchivan and Iravan remained part of Iran in the newly more or less stabil Iran after Agha Mohammad Khan--Babakexorramdin (talk) 08:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Still, they were not Persian ruled provinces. They were small states, as Sweitochovsky says, replicas of the Persian empire, though formally recognizing the authority of Persian shahs. It was a typical feudal relation of vassal and suzerain. They were vassal states of Persia. You guys can continue edit warring on these articles, but it will only result in everyone involved being placed on editing restriction by arbitration enforcement. --Grandmaster 13:26, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well I think we should agree upon our shared history and safegaurd it against anyone, be it these editors or any other be it Armenian, Russian, Turks etc...--Babakexorramdin (talk) 10:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- As I said the formula of Iranian territory but selfruling in varying degree is the best.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- I cited my sources. Do you suggest that we must ignore them? Grandmaster 10:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I do not want to go in deep about those editors, but they are part of an organization that has invited many neocons and Brenda Shaffer and spoke about bombing Iran. These Khnates were no different than other parts of Iran. That was just Zand dynasty style--Babakexorramdin (talk) 10:44, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Какой вы молодец
Я занимался возвращением статьей к доконфликтным названиям. С чем вы в русскиой википедии были согласны, а теперь жалуетесь за это на меня. Gragg (talk) 11:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- Для этого есть стандартные процедуры. Нет никакой необходимости в войнах переименований. Grandmaster 11:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
what was that?
Hi, you have just removed 11,000 bytes from Caucasian Albania. See [7] and the sizes in [8]. If all that is good changes, you should undo your edit and redo them in stages with appropriate edit summaries, so that people can review each change. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- That was a mistake. I will fix it now. Grandmaster 11:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I just wanted to include a new version of a deleted image with an old caption, and messed it up. Grandmaster 11:43, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. It looked too bizarre to be intentional. John Vandenberg (chat) 03:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Just an FYI
Believe it or not, but The Nation, and Ames' article against Svante Cornell in The Nation, is not a BLP Article, but rather a reliable source. Please see discussion here:
I'm sure Russia Today will get similar commentary. HistoricWarrior007 (talk) 00:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Baku Boulevard
Could you please help me to improve the article about Baku Boulevard. Thanks in advance--NovaSkola (talk) 10:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
"Grave of Noah" photo
Please read this http://www.network54.com/Forum/146256/message/1159490445/Tomb+of+Noah+mentioned+here and see the photo in the post that follows on from it. The photo you have placed in the article is either labeled wrongly (it is another tomb) or it is an entirely modern creation. If it is the latter, I think the caption needs to be changed to state that it is a completely modern structure and only marks a symbolic site, it is not a grave as such. Meowy 15:57, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- Of course, it is a modern structure, and marks the site traditionally believed to be the grave of Noah. The older tomb was destroyed during the Soviet times. I never claimed it was something antique. I don't mind if you change the caption appropriately. Grandmaster 04:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Sport in Azerbaijan
Sorry to bother you again but I really need your help to improve article Sport in Azerbaijan as it involves lots of effort.--NovaSkola (talk) 07:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Administration
Hello, can you nominate me for Wiki Administration? or don't you advise me to do that step?--NovaSkola (talk) 23:03, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- I think you need to get some training for an admin and patrol. You should discuss this with admins. They will advise you how to do that. Grandmaster 10:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Thanks for the comment. From what I understood, Wiesehofer's reading was that we were not able to understand it well and I asked him about Albania and he said he is not an expert in the area. However I think my third cambridge quote below clarifies it. On the two cambridge quotes you brought: "Since the time of the success of Shapur II Armenia, Georgia and Albania had remained "vassal states" of the Sassanian empire.
(I am not sure why the author has "vassal states" in quotes but this is because probably the word itself is harder to apply in the Sassanid settings)
"The inscription of Shapur numbers Iberia and Albania among his vassal states, and reveals the existence of a puppet ruler, Hamazasp, installed by him in IBeria"
I would like to add a third here:
It says:
"This list of "kingdoms" mentions regions and provinces which stood in varying degrees of dependence upon the central government - semi-independent and subordinate. "
Note in the same page, Albania is mentioned as one of these kingdoms.
So a kingdom (vassal state) can be a province as well (of the empire) and that is what exactly the cambridge source states.
Note Albania was a vassal state or kingdom because it had a monarchy but it was also a province because it was under the domain of the Sassanids. I do not think there is a contradiction between province and vassal state, since a province with its own kingdom is a vassal state. Many Sassanid provinces had either a local Marzaban or a kingdom or both, and that is why the Sassanid king is called Shahanshah (King of Kings) and not just King. The second cambridge quote also notes in that Iberia and Albania were vassal state, but they had puppet rulers of Sassanids like Hamazasp in Iberia. So I do not see a contradiction between Iranica or Cambridge history of Iran. Note Chaumont also mentions: "The king of Albania was one of the chief vassals of the King of Kings, but exercised only a semblance of authority and was accountable to the marzbān who held the real civil, religious, and military power. " The second cambridge quote also mentions Iberia as a vassal state, but with a puppet king. And the cambridge quote (3rd one) mentions Kingdoms as provinces.
What we lack details (even Iranica article) is when did the Sassanids install the Marzaban in the area during their 400 year rule or so. Also at what stages was the Kingdom very subordinate and at what stages it opened revolts (during Christian-Zoroastrian conflicts).
I prefer the Iranica article since it is specialized on the topic of Caucasian Albania in that era (unlike the other sources) but I do not see any contradiction, since by definition, some of the provinces of the Sassanid (Shahanshahi) empire were Kingdoms (or even had a Marzaban while having a kingdom too). I do think the section can be cleaned up though, but from a encyclopedic preference, I think the only source we have that deals with Albania exclusively as an article is the Iranica article. But to tell you the truth, the sources that describe it as province and Kingdom show that it is both. Almost like the Shirwanshah state which was a province of the Seljuqs, but the relationship here was tighter because the families were also families with the Sassanids through marriages and etc. Albania was a province as well as kingdom (within the empire) as well as a Marazubanate (from what I gather from the 5th century) alongside the kingdom. Feel free to cleanup that section or put your proposal for the cleaning up of that section in the talkpage while including Cambridge, Iranica and other sources you find (of course at the same academic level since lots of weak sources can be found in google books as well). Regards and Happy Eid. --Nepaheshgar (talk) 14:28, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Northern Artsakh
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WikiBirthday
I saw from here that it's been exactly four years since you joined the project. Happy WikiBirthday! Keep up the good work, rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 20:23, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
I have reverted many of these, and warned the anon about this one.
However the ones that remain need more work. e.g. Ganja khanate needs more citations. reverting because it is a sock is not a good approach. John Vandenberg (chat) 00:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
My reversions
Sorry about the mix-up regarding those Azerbaijani reverts I did. I generally revert pretty much all edits by anons who misuse their edit privileges. If there are any which you feel should be reverted back, please feel free to do so. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 23:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Iran vs. Ottomans
Dear Granmaster please do not twist history. Transcaucasus was Iranian. Ottoamn Turks were there too but mainly as unsuccessfull temporrary occupiers. I do not know why certain elements from the Republic of Azerbaijan are so passionately in love with the Anatolian/ OttomanTurks? Ottoman Turks have always genocided Azeris in the history. I think you know your history. I though that the recent Turkish betrayal Xiyanat was going to bring about changes in this attitude. Honestly speaking these history wars is damaging the Iran-republic of Azerbaijan more than the Oil issue in the Caspian. The relationship between the republic of Azerbaijan and Iran, uis not as good as it should be, and I blame popular historians and pseudo scientists, foreigners and natives, for this.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 08:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- It is not about whether we like certain facts or not. It is true that at certain periods in history Ottomans had the region under their control. It is especially true for the borderland areas such as Erivan and Nakhchivan. Ottomans ruled those lands, even though their rule was shorter than that of Safavids. They left their marks even in architecture. For instance, the fortress of Erivan was build by Ottomans. They could not hold it for long, but it is a fact. I have respect for both Turks and Iranians, but we cannot distort the historical facts. The Ottoman rule was brief, but it existed. Grandmaster 08:53, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yet you remained silent about the longer Iranian rule. Why is that? Moerover Nakhichevan was even under firmer control of Iran than Yerevan. I was going to add the Persian, Azeri in Perso-Arabic latters name of yerevan there. But let's see first what other people think--Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- I never objected to inclusion of the Persian name. I don't understand why you are blaming me for that. In fact, I'm thinking of starting a general community discussion about foreign names in the articles about our region. From what I see, some people push names in their language and remove the names in other languages, even if they are historically justified. We should either include all appropriate names, or none. I think, at the moment we are closer to no foreign name solution. That's fine with me too. We just need a general agreement on how to resolve the issue. Grandmaster 12:21, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yet you remained silent about the longer Iranian rule. Why is that? Moerover Nakhichevan was even under firmer control of Iran than Yerevan. I was going to add the Persian, Azeri in Perso-Arabic latters name of yerevan there. But let's see first what other people think--Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- As I remember you had removed the Persian script rom the names of the cities in the republic of Azerbaijan. I think we should add the Persian script to all those cities in the republic of Azerbaijan, except those who were built after the Stalinist time, when the Persian script was abolished. And in the discussion about yerevan: I didnt say you objected, but you did not mention the Iranian rule. And it was not only the Safavid time. Yerevan was part of Iran in Achamenid, Parthian, Sasanian, safavid, Afsharid, Zand and Qajar era. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 17:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- ::::"...thinking of starting a general community discussion about foreign names in the articles about our region." What is needed is an overall set of guidence notes plus a few fixed rules. They should apply to ALL articles, not just "our region" - the problem is widespread throughout Wikipedia. Meowy 16:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- I think each region has its own sensetivities, and the one in our region is the ugly Soviet ethnonationalism. The trouble from the Caucasus is spreading southwards to Iran, unfortunately. But fortunately Iranians are not much into these ethnic things. It only gives us a lot of trouble on Internet.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 17:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- On Wikipedia, it should be "one law for all" (though administrators do think they are a law unto themselves). So what is true for one article should be true for all articles, regardless of the region that the article concerns and regardless of ethnic or regional sensitivities. Meowy 18:01, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- I think each region has its own sensetivities, and the one in our region is the ugly Soviet ethnonationalism. The trouble from the Caucasus is spreading southwards to Iran, unfortunately. But fortunately Iranians are not much into these ethnic things. It only gives us a lot of trouble on Internet.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 17:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- what do you suggest? I mean what is a good rule in this regard?--Babakexorramdin (talk) 18:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- Proper guidelines need to be worked out about what the alternative names section of articles should contain (issues like how many alternative names, how far back, foreign alphabets, modern spellings or alphabets used for ancient placenames, etc.), and the guidelines should apply to all place-name articles. It would save endless talk page arguments and hostilities if these things were settled once and for all. Obvious misuses of that section, (see, for example, what I wrote in the "origin of the name" [10] discussion on the Kars entry) are easy(ish) to settle. But other issues are far less clear cut and usually both sides have valid points and the actual argument is really about the purpose of that section of an article. Grandmaster has just said he is "thinking of starting a general community discussion", actually, I've been thinking of doing the same thing for over a year. It has to be a community-wide discussion involving a lot of editors, not just a little clique of editors who edit in the same related articles. And since we need the end result to be a concise set of advice and rules, administrators would need to be involved from the outset. Meowy 19:55, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- I totally agree with Meowy. I'm also tired of endless disputes about whether the name in a certain language appropriate or not, and related edit wars. Let's settle this once and for all. Once I finish dealing with disruption by the banned user, I will initiate a community discussion about naming guidelines for the articles covering Caucasus, Turkey and Iran. --Grandmaster 07:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- Proper guidelines need to be worked out about what the alternative names section of articles should contain (issues like how many alternative names, how far back, foreign alphabets, modern spellings or alphabets used for ancient placenames, etc.), and the guidelines should apply to all place-name articles. It would save endless talk page arguments and hostilities if these things were settled once and for all. Obvious misuses of that section, (see, for example, what I wrote in the "origin of the name" [10] discussion on the Kars entry) are easy(ish) to settle. But other issues are far less clear cut and usually both sides have valid points and the actual argument is really about the purpose of that section of an article. Grandmaster has just said he is "thinking of starting a general community discussion", actually, I've been thinking of doing the same thing for over a year. It has to be a community-wide discussion involving a lot of editors, not just a little clique of editors who edit in the same related articles. And since we need the end result to be a concise set of advice and rules, administrators would need to be involved from the outset. Meowy 19:55, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- I will support such a move. However, I should make it clear that any addition of uor Latin Alphabet to the Iranian cities will be opposed. There is simply no historic basic for that. And Also I want, that once agreed in the English Wikipedia, the gang of ethnonationlists (of all countries) in the Russian wikipedia accept these rules too--Babakexorramdin (talk) 14:14, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- ::::"...thinking of starting a general community discussion about foreign names in the articles about our region." What is needed is an overall set of guidence notes plus a few fixed rules. They should apply to ALL articles, not just "our region" - the problem is widespread throughout Wikipedia. Meowy 16:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- I brought up once a rule in Russian Wikipedia that was violated by the editors from the republic of Azerbaijan. The Russian admins favaoritism was that much that we couldn't do anything. As I said, still eth ethnonationalists from the rep. Azerbaijan and Armenia have an edge over Iranians in the Russian wikipeida, 1- Language and 2- Russia's favoritism towards what they see as their colonial subjects. But the situuation may change soon, because still more Iranians study in russia. Moreover Iran has lifted visa for the citizens from the republiz of Azerbaijan. let's cheer for that.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 14:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- As I remember you had removed the Persian script rom the names of the cities in the republic of Azerbaijan. I think we should add the Persian script to all those cities in the republic of Azerbaijan, except those who were built after the Stalinist time, when the Persian script was abolished. And in the discussion about yerevan: I didnt say you objected, but you did not mention the Iranian rule. And it was not only the Safavid time. Yerevan was part of Iran in Achamenid, Parthian, Sasanian, safavid, Afsharid, Zand and Qajar era. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 17:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
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Aghdam
Dear Grandmaster, I am aware that Agh in Aghdam is from Turkic Aq, which means white. Thid yeilds to better explanations than possible Iranic words. However, dam can be Iranic. Dam means domestic animal. As you can see Dam and Dom in Russian are of the same Indo-European words. This is the explanation which makes the most sense. There are other Iranic explanations. But these are only possible if the short a (reverse e) is transformed to a due to vowel harmony rule in Azeri: Dam can mean the side or near to, or even things like moment or breath. There are more placenames which are mixed Persian/Turkic or Persian/ Arabic or Turkic/ Arabic. I think we can let it nbe there and we can also add the Turkic explanation when we write the explanations and etymologies.By the way what is your explanation for Vartashen and Kutkashen: two old Udi villages (I'm noot sure about the latter one). Armenians say it is Armenian, but I think it is Parthian. What do you think?--Babakexorramdin (talk) 17:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- The name of Aghdam translates as white roof. It is purely a Turkic word. Why would anyone call a place "white animal"? "White roof" on the other hand is perfectly logical. In any case, you cannot add names just because you think they are of Persian origin, for places like Aghdam you need reliable sources. Mixed Turco-Persian name for example is Ordubad (ordu - turkic for army, bad - Persian for town, see Iranica). As for Vartashen and Kutkashen, I think we need to consult reliable third party sources for meaning. Grandmaster 07:27, 3 January 2010 (UTC).
- I didnt say it is Persian. Aghdam can translate as White stable. Why is white roof better? Why is a city called as White roof? Vartashen. Vart in Parthian means rose and Shen related to build. Compare the avetsna Sheng (?) means rouhly village of roses. Armenians think it is Armenian, but Armenian itself is ful of Iranic words. I am sure also many place names in the republic of Azerbaijan have Iranic roots other than Persian, probabbly more Archaic. What are your explanations from Khynalugh,Khachmaz? I am not saying that they are Iranic or any thing I am just asking.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 12:32, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have a source about etymology of Aghdam? If not, then we are just speculating. We have a source about Ordubad, for instance. We should not write articles on the basis of our personal interpretations. While this source is not neutral, it provides a generally accepted etymology of the name of Aghdam. Grandmaster 08:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- The source you mentioed is very funny. Gargar has nothing to do with Huns. It is connected to the Caucasian Albanians (I have a source for this). Askaran is most likely from the arabic Askar (soldier) plus the Persian -an plural maker. But Aski-Aran makes sense too, if the second a is a long a. I have no source for Aghdam. usually dictionaries can serve as sources for words of this kind. I have to search more about this. But all and all it is not that important; most cities' names have speculative etymologies. A notable case is Tehran!--Babakexorramdin (talk) 20:50, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Askeran is definitely from asker. Gargar is indeed connected with Albanians, one of Albanian tribes was called Gargar. But Agdam is definitely purely Turkic. The popular etymology of the word connects it with a white building erected by Panah Ali khan. Khynalugh, Khachmaz could be of Dagestani origin, even though Khinaliq sounds as Turkic derived from Khyna (henna). Grandmaster 08:41, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- are these Xachmaz and Xynalygh or Hachmaz and Hynalygh?--Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:12, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- They are Khachmaz and Khynalygh. Grandmaster 09:04, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- By the way, I have found interesting information on Aghdam, I will tell you soon, when I know more.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 12:07, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- They are Khachmaz and Khynalygh. Grandmaster 09:04, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- are these Xachmaz and Xynalygh or Hachmaz and Hynalygh?--Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:12, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- Askeran is definitely from asker. Gargar is indeed connected with Albanians, one of Albanian tribes was called Gargar. But Agdam is definitely purely Turkic. The popular etymology of the word connects it with a white building erected by Panah Ali khan. Khynalugh, Khachmaz could be of Dagestani origin, even though Khinaliq sounds as Turkic derived from Khyna (henna). Grandmaster 08:41, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- The source you mentioed is very funny. Gargar has nothing to do with Huns. It is connected to the Caucasian Albanians (I have a source for this). Askaran is most likely from the arabic Askar (soldier) plus the Persian -an plural maker. But Aski-Aran makes sense too, if the second a is a long a. I have no source for Aghdam. usually dictionaries can serve as sources for words of this kind. I have to search more about this. But all and all it is not that important; most cities' names have speculative etymologies. A notable case is Tehran!--Babakexorramdin (talk) 20:50, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
- Dear Grandmaster. I reviewed the word roof in different Turkic languages and also in the neighbouring language groups. Different Turkic languages use the words Dam, Tam, or tom. But the T and D alternations are not consistent with the sound rules in different Turkic languages. For examples in a language which it should be with a T is with D, etc... It s also remarkable that the Turkic languages which are located far from the Iranian languages do not use Dam, Tam etc... or lack any words fror roof. It is not surprizng as the original Turks were nomadic and did not live in houses at all. The fact is that the word Dam sounds very Indo-European ) Dom= house, compare the Russian word for house= dom and for example the words domestic, or Dam for domestic animal in new Persian are derived from it.)and the closest and the most probable Indo-European language which had serious impact on Turkic is and was Iranic. The main exception is Turkish which uses Chati, which in turn is very close to the Pashtun Chath. I do not know whether or not it is an East Iranic word. In summary: It is not very certain and it looks like original research but we know at least more about it now.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:12, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have a source about etymology of Aghdam? If not, then we are just speculating. We have a source about Ordubad, for instance. We should not write articles on the basis of our personal interpretations. While this source is not neutral, it provides a generally accepted etymology of the name of Aghdam. Grandmaster 08:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- I didnt say it is Persian. Aghdam can translate as White stable. Why is white roof better? Why is a city called as White roof? Vartashen. Vart in Parthian means rose and Shen related to build. Compare the avetsna Sheng (?) means rouhly village of roses. Armenians think it is Armenian, but Armenian itself is ful of Iranic words. I am sure also many place names in the republic of Azerbaijan have Iranic roots other than Persian, probabbly more Archaic. What are your explanations from Khynalugh,Khachmaz? I am not saying that they are Iranic or any thing I am just asking.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 12:32, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Ganja, Azerbaijan
Hei, I modified article about Ganja, Azerbaijan, renewed most information, clear some fake misinformation and added 2 pictures. Any chance, could you check if there is small errors.--NovaSkola (talk) 11:53, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
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I know the guy you reverted is an obvious vandal, but that doesn't mean he wasn't correct. Please pay more attention to what you're reverting; the stamp is indeed a custom stamp and not a product of the US postal service. --Golbez (talk) 08:28, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you are talking about. I just removed a POV claim by the vandal. Grandmaster 08:41, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
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Please, check the NK talk page and see that only after proper description every revert and change is made. Moreover the description yesterday was initiated by me and no reverts without description in Talk Page is ever done. Cheers! 517design (talk) 12:23, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- There was no consensus for your proposed edits, and until there's a consensus for the change of the intro, you should not change it. Grandmaster 07:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
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