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16:02, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

You added a message on my talk page

Greetings! I noticed that you said “Hi” to me on my talk page. Well, hello to you too and welcome to Wikipedia! If you need to ask anything, feel free to ask and I will help if I can. Happy editing :) Mowahid Mohsin (talk) 02:49, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Salaam, I am a Baloch from Turkmenistan, I am a historian myself, I have been studying the history of my nation for almost 6 years, thanks for the history of Jalal Khan, but I can offer a more accurate history that would be interesting to readers... Habir As (talk) 18:16, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wa’alykum asalam. Thank you so much for your offer! I have been trying to find someone who knows Baloch history for a long time, almost a year. The articles I wrote on Wikipedia about Baloch people get deleted again and again and my work keeps getting removed by other users, and I struggle to find sources for my articles. I’m a Baloch from Pakistan by the way, and I found out that I’m a Baloch not too long ago so I decided to research on this topic. I would appreciate a lot if you help me with this. Have a great day :) Mowahid Mohsin (talk) 16:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

During the reign of Ummayad, the unhappy Balochs began to migrate to Balochistan, there Led by Jalal Khan, they set up a colony, and urging other Balochs tribes from Kerman to rebel against Ummayad Caliph Yazid I, revenge for Ali ibn Abu Taleb. Jalal Khan was considered a direct descendant of Baloch Khan and Baloch Khan was a descendant of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad’s uncle, Ameer Hamza, academics believe that Baloch Khan is Belus who was considered a descendant of Ham (son of Noah), another sure that Hamza is a of District Homs.

The descendant of Baloch Khan had the right to rule over all Balochs tribes, because of which 30 civil wars broke out by the Rinds and Lashars tribes who considered themselves descendants of Jalal Khan.

Habir As (talk) 11:50, 8 July 2020 (UTC) Habir As (talk) 06:48, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very very much for the information you provided, I appreciate it a lot, thank you so much :) I also read that it’s believed that the ancestors of Baloch people participated in Karbala, against Caliph Yazid I alongside Prophet Muhammad’s grandson, I don’t know whether it’s true or not though. I currently note down all information I find on Baloch in a diary, and I’m trying to make a Baloch family tree with one of my distant cousins, so the information would be very useful. I have a few questions I’d like to ask... Question 1: was Jalal Khan alive at the time of Yazid I? Question 2: Are the Baloch related to the Turks or Ayyubids as many websites claim? Question 3: Is it not confirmed that the Rind and Lashar tribes are descendants of Jalal Khan? Also, if you know of any website or a book about the Baloch people, please do share the link with me so I can use the link on Wikipedia as a reference, because work cannot be published on Wikipedia if there is no reliable references available. By the way, both of my grandfathers are from Hoth tribe of Baloch and one of my grandmothers is from Rind tribe of Baloch. I really want the articles on the Baloch be available on Wikipedia, however there are many users here who delete my articles due to lack of references, that’s why I really need references in order to save my articles. I really appreciate your help, and I’m very glad to have met a fellow Baloch :) Have a nice day. Mowahid Mohsin (talk) 13:47, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your recent message re History of the Baloch people

Hello Habir As -- I apologize for the delay in replying to this message, which you left on my Talk page:

Hi, why are the supporters of the Iranian regime free to remove the history of other ethnic people who live in Iran? Hasn't someone noticed them? A member named Yamaguchi deleted the "History of the Baloch people" page, and a member named Rosguil deleted "Kuch and Baluch country", who is paying them? May I restore the history of the Baloch people? I myself am a historian by profession ... Habir As (talk) 19:15, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

I need help so that the Persian vandals do not bother me, I will be an old man who will improve the pages so that it will make the reader feel better, if you help, please ... Habir As (talk) 19:20, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

I do not think that the editing actions of User:Yamaguchi先生 or User:Rosguill were made for political reasons. Yamaguchi and Rosguill are both very experienced, respected editors of this encyclopedia who hold the Wikipedia rank of administrator. (I am a rollbacker and the difference between a rollbacker and an administrator is like the difference between a corporal and a colonel.) The edit summaries associated with the edits in question indicate that this topic is covered adequately in a section of an existing article and, therefore, that a separate Wikipedia article on this topic is not needed. Rosguill explained this to you in the conversation you had with him on his Talk page. There are no Persian vandals deleting your material.

It is also very important to note that material in Wikipedia articles (especially material pertaining to technical or sensitive topics) should be derived from reliable sources and cannot be one's own original research (See the policies at WP:Reliable sources and WP:No original research). Even a professional historian or a Ph.D. is required to cite previously published reliable sources.

Respectfully -- WikiPedant (talk) 04:10, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thank you for answering, but since you consider them respected participants, I do not mind. The edits that I edited, you can look at them there are no errors, I already know the rule since I'm a beginner, I already noticed that Wikipedia has political supporters. But I want to ask you to improve my page so that I can improve the articles concerning only Baluchis, I know the rules in Wikipedia, help me in the name of fairness ... Habir As (talk) 17:58, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Habir As -- I'm sorry, but I am really not comfortable editing substantive content which is so far outside of my own expertise and interests. Respectfully -- WikiPedant (talk) 03:10, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No need to apologize, everything is fine, it's just that this respected member of Yamaguchi 先生 spoiled the articles of Baluch tribes such as Baranzai, Damanis, Badani, and edited the Mengal and Kaisrani tribes like bragui serayki, and following the rule, I restored them and edited them as they do these are other normal participants. There is no error or violation in my edits! Have a nice day! Thanks for answering... Habir As (talk) 19:17, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Warning

(...) "or maybe you just follow the history of the Baluchis People like other Iranian vandalists"[1]

This ^ is in line with previous edits wherein you made WP:TENDENTIOUS edits:

"I need help so that the Persian vandals do not bother me"[2]
"Hi, why are the supporters of the Iranian regime free to remove the history of other ethnic people who live in Iran? Hasn't someone noticed them? A member named Yamaguchi deleted the "History of the Baloch people" page, and a member named Rosguil deleted "Kuch and Baluch country", who is paying them?"[3]

These are all violations of WP:NPA, WP:PERSONAL and WP:BATTLE. Please don't do it again. Thanks, - LouisAragon (talk) 15:04, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Principality of Farrukhnagar

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Concern regarding Draft:Khans of Sahiwal

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 15:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Khans of Sahiwal

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:14, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Khans of Sahiwal for deletion

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Störm (talk) 15:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]