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"Rowspan vandalism" source

Hey, do you have a source that this [1] is "rowspan vandalism" please? Similar edit [2], looks better without rowspan in this case but not reverting based on that alone. Thanks, Indagate (talk) 11:25, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Are you edit stalking me?... The established style at the article is to correctly use "nested rowspan" for readability (this used to be required under MOS:ACCESS, and is still generally followed at WP:FLs). Plenty of other articles use table rowspan poorly, especially in 'Awards' tables' (to the point where some of them become absolutely unreadable), and it's not a practice that should be proliferated. Regardless, at the Zendaya article, WP:STYLEVAR applies, so please do not irresponsibly revert my proper edit. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:47, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Nope, edit summary got my attention from watchlist and had question about related edit on other article similar time. Your version looks better on Zendaya so wouldn't revert you, I support rowspan in the left most column, then later columns if rowspan before, so oppose rowspan in either example I linked above. Issue is with the Spider-Man: Far From Home which added rowspan, status quo there is with rowspan so stylevar doesn't apply like at Zendaya. Why is rowspan allowed in the ref column in that Zendaya article for some tables like Primetime Emmy Awards, Black Reel Awards, MTV, etc, seems to be rowspan after non-rowspanned cells, standard practice across articles but seems against ACCESS. Thanks, Indagate (talk) 14:02, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Cool. I agree that "nested rowspan" is the proper way to go (for readability) in tables, if you're going to use rowspan, even if some WP's (e.g. WP:DISCOGRAPHY) ignore it... As for 'rowspan' in the far-right 'Refs' column, I admit that I don't like it (as it violates the "nesting" principle), but feel that it's minor enough not to bother with, and rowspan there really doesn't negatively impact "readability" like it does when used improperly in earlier columns... On Spider-Man: Far from Home, you could try imposing "nested" rowspan in the table (emphasize the readability and "nested rowspan" issues in your edit summary), but if you are reverted, then you have to leave it, unfortunately. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:07, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Sure, thanks. Think it can impact readability on larger tables, think be better to have refs in same cell as result or individual cells, but it's so prevalent not really worth it. Indagate (talk) 15:21, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Alma mater

Template:Infobox person says "It is usually not relevant to include either parameter for non-graduates, but article talk page consensus may conclude otherwise, as perhaps at Bill Gates." What makes it relevant for DiMarco? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 16:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

He went to McMaster for a year, before switching careers. I guess I think it's relevant. But you can bring it up at the talk page if you want to see if others feel otherwise. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:02, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
It would have been relevant if he was pursuing said career. But he isn't. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 16:05, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
He was pursuing a career. Like I said, if you feel strongly about it, you should take it to the Talk page and see what other editors think. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:06, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
If you ain't gonna listen to something so basic (made in the utmost good-faith), simply to make a point about being right, I have no interest in pursuing it further. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 16:09, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Which is an attitude that it pointedly not conducive to Wikipedia editing. When two editors have a disagreement, the best thing to do is solicit wider opinion – the worst thing that happens it that no one responds. I, personally, would like to see what other editors think on the question. On my end, I think it is relevant, but I'd be willing to hear other opinions on the matter. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:12, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Silly Mountain (Arizona)

Good evening @IJBall! Due to an Educational Project, my team and I were creating this draft: Draft:Silly Mountain (Arizona) - as you can see on the Talk Page-. We were thinking to publish it, but we want to ask your thought, in order to improve some parts or to fix something wrong. Could we ask you for your opinion? Thanks in advance! Team5DTVanessa (talk) 17:12, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

@Team5DTVanessa: I think that would be passed by WP:AfC – I would submit it for publishing using the {{AfC submission}} template. It looks sourced enough to me (maybe be too many primary sources, but still enough secondary sources...). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:54, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
@IJBall Many thanks for your quick response! I'll add the {{AfC submission}} template to the article. I assure you that we will fix all the problems related to sources in the next few days. If you have other suggestion, we are ready to listen to you. Team5DTVanessa (talk) 18:29, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Local TV Templates discussion

There's a discussion here regarding Local TV templates that I'd like you to take a look at. 100.7.44.80 (talk) 02:58, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

I really have no thoughts on the subject. If I did, I would have commented. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:21, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

That Girl Lay Lay

If you're interested, there's a move discussion on the talk page. Ping Geraldo Perez and MPFitz1968 as well. Amaury • 22:22, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Velca Design

I hope not to bother @IJBall, me and other users had to create (for an Educational Project) this draft page: Draft:Velca Design, we have submitted it on 9th of December and we wanted to kindly ask you if you could have a look and tell us how to improve it in order to fix all the mistakes. Thank you for your time. Fraliuc2 (talk) 14:10, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

@Fraliuc2: I'm not sure how much help I can be in this case, as I really don't ever deal with WP:NCOMPANY-type articles, so I really don't know what the "threshold" level is for these kinds of articles to be published. An additional challenge here is that it looks like all of the sources are in Italian, which will make it difficult to appraise for English Wikipedia.
My general comments are is that 'Early years' and possibly the 'Velca designers" sections looked under-referenced, and that the article can be improved stylistically in terms of MOS:REFPUNCT and MOS:HEADCAPS... But, beyond that, I can't really offer much more of an appraisal. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:39, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Dylan O'Donnell

Good afternoon @IJBall! Me and a group of other students are working on creating an article on Wikipedia for an Educational Project. The Draft is the following: Draft: Dylan O'Donnell; we have submitted it for review on 14th of December and we are looking forward to receiving any feedback. Therefore, we would be glad if you could review it, telling us if it needs any improovements or if there are any mistakes that have to be fixed. Thanks in advance for your time!LIUCLucrezia03 (talk) 19:37, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Character page polices

Where are the character page policies that stat what that you have to have 5 episodes to list them? I have seen many character pages that have only two or three appearances for example, List of Bob the Builder characters and List of Thomas & Friends film characters (including the main page). I am trying to talk through the issue, but seem not to be getting an explanation of the polices where it states such. Magical Golden Whip (talk) 00:18, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

OK, not sure what you are referring to. But:
  1. It's long-standing WP:TV practice that characters aren't listed under 'Recurring' cast unless they have appeared in/been credited for at least 4–5 episodes, and
  2. American TV series (esp. comedies) often have crediting "levels" – "guest starring", "co-starring" and "featuring" – and it is also long-standing practice to only look at guest cast in the first of these crediting levels ("guest starring"), as characters/actors at the other two levels are "minor" characters, and shouldn't be included as per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, including in the 'Recurring' section (unless someone can dig up significant secondary coverage on the character).
Hope this answers the question. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:49, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, I think that helps. I was mainly wondering where the policy was coming from as I was trying to add in a few characters but kept getting reverted, but nott stating where it came from and just 4-5 episodes. Magical Golden Whip (talk) 01:07, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

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About AidanH123

Hi. I saw that you reverted an IP at Henry Danger (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), who then went on to edit-war and accuse Amaury of being a sock in their edit summaries. Would you take a look at AidanH123? It's the editor who first added the information to the article here, which the IP then went on to readd repeatedly. I checked the editor's contributions and it's mostly limited to incorrectly adding or removing commas, and then to edit and revert themselves repeatedly over commas. They seem to be attempting to get to a certain number of edits fast and I suspect they might be a sock. Is this behavior you recognize from a problematic editor? In your edit summary you compared the IP to a certain Orchomen. Do you if this should be taken to WP:ANI, WP:SPI, or some other venue? —El Millo (talk) 23:49, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

@Facu-el Millo: Just based on edit history alone, and articles and subject matter edited, I don't think AidanH123 is an Orchomen sock. (And, BTW, the SPI case for Orchomen is here.) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:52, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

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Max & Shred

I may need some eyes here on an already settled issue, as the user is ignoring the talk page discussion and refusing to abide by it. They are also failing to follow WP:BRD and WP:STATUSQUO. Ping Geraldo Perez and MPFitz1968 as well. Amaury • 04:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Just following up for myself that this seems resolved now. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:35, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Genuinely curious

What was the fix in Special:Diff/1131429785? Primefac (talk) 10:49, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

@Primefac: I'm not exactly sure what the initial ":" does, I just know it's used especially before templates and categories and files, esp. if you want to just "link" to them and not "call" them – e.g. Template:Infobox television, Category:1975 American television series debuts and File:Jennifer_Lawrence_at_the_83rd_Academy_Awards.jpg. (Try removing the initial ":" with especially the last two, and see what happens! – Not using the ":" no longer seems to be an issue with templates, but I swear it used to be.) I've also seen this done in WP:Requested move discussions, esp. in regards to redirects – e.g. Fox (American TV network)... So I'm not sure what the exact function is – I just know that the ":" works, and seems to be preferred in some cases. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:41, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Filmography on Jane Krakowski

Please check the changes on that article's filmography. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:34, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

@Geraldo Perez: Reverted, and commented further at User talk:YUEUE. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:44, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
I was also concerned about the addition of a "Directors" column and details about the film that were not about what she did in the film. The add "Directors" column seems to come up fairly often, but the FILMOGRAPHY guideline doesn't mention it and I think it inappropriate in an actors page as it is, again, info about the film itself, not the role played. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:54, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
@Geraldo Perez: I missed that – yes, 'Directors' columns should almost never be added to actor Filmographies as they are considered extraneous or trivial. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:58, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
@Geraldo Perez: Editor is now officially edit warring on this – I strongly advise reporting to WP:ANEW, as they are clearly ignoring the directions you and I are given them. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:52, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
I would like to see an edit after the 3RR warning for ANEW report. 3RR warning also serves as final warning so AIV is possible too as DE and failure to communicate, WP:NOTHERE. He might stop now after the warnings. He has a bunch of Peruvian IPs he also uses for same pattern of filmography edits. Surprised he popped up in an old account today. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:31, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Feel free to try AIV, but for this kind of stuff they're only effective some of the time. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:33, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
I'm aware. Right now for this type of edit pattern, 50/50 chance depending on who is handling the reports. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:40, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Regarding Spider-Man's episdoe guide and explaining myself

Hello again. Regarding what I said before about "List of Batman: The Animated Series episodes" :I'm sorry for the mix up, I actaully was talking about a Wikipedia page, not a wiki, I just shortened it to "wikI" to make more space for my message. Like I said, this wikipedia page makes note of each adaptation in a manner close to what I did for Spider-Man, and these notes are not sourced either, I don't mean to seem uppity or angry but I almost want to argue that what I did, (listing each issue number, the year it came out, and the title of each story making it easy to seek out) could be seen as a type of source giving. Why should this page have a different set up to that one?

You say this could be considered trivial: My reasoning for this being info worth noting is that since these episodes would not exist without their respective source materials, and the show itself is technically an adaptation I think it's important to make note of stories lifted and recreated here, s it's the name of the game. I think listing these could make some researchers life's a tad bit easier, be it for critics wanting two things to compare, or fans of the show who might like to check out these issues that inspired it.

You say I must add sources: this may sound half witted of me, but I don't know what to do about that. Am I to look for past interviews with people who worked on this series and find statements confirming each episode I listed? Am I to source other wikipedia pages for each issue so that someone could read their write-ups to see that they are contain lifted elements? (Because not every issue mentioned has a wikipedia page, though they do have Marvel Database pages.): Please friend, if you tell me what it is I am looking for to source here, that'd help a lot, thanks!

2601:486:200:590:1CA6:F991:5707:25D5 (talk) 02:24, 17 January 2023 (UTC) D-Man

If there was a book (or books) written about the original Spider-Man TV series (or at least books that cover the original 1967 series in some detail), and some of the episodes are based on actual comics issues, the book would almost certainly make mention of that. So far, the only likely relevant book currently cited at the article is American Comic Book Chronicles: 1965–1969. If you can get access to that, I'd start there. But I'd also look to see if there are any books about the 1967 series specifically, or that cover Spider-Man "in media" as that would pretty much have to cover about the 1967 series as part of the topic.
But, yeah – if episodes are based on specifics issues from the comics, and that is not indicated in the episodes' credits, then we need a secondary source to verify the claim.
P.S. It would have been better that this discussion go to Talk:Spider-Man (1967 TV series). I may yet move it there, esp. if you do find some relevant sources. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:46, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

List of Lab Rats characters

You know what I don't understand is why sometimes random edits like that have the "reverted" tag. Amaury • 20:32, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Dakota Fanning

And a stale discussion being around for 3 years is? Amazing. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 19:51, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

@FlightTime: The obsession for nearly empty Talk pages makes no sense to me – it is often true that relevant talk discussions from 2, 3 or even 5 years previous should be seen by people looking at the Talk page. For all but the busiest talk page, an archiving time of 60 or 90 days is absolutely not helpful. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:53, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

List of I Am Frankie episodes

I may need backup here—and on the parent article, depending on things—due to an IP likely using different IPs. I don't think it's our usual suspect since they're not in the UAE, but their edits are clearly not improvements. Their wording makes it sound like only Alex Hook is starring, which she isn't. Thanks. Amaury • 23:34, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Surprisingly, 2600:1001:b009.* does not appear to be the same editor as 69.116.88.150. However, none of the edits from 2600:1001:b009.* look to be improvements – certainly not without a talk page explanation for some (other edits were just not good). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:45, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
@Amaury: I take it back – despite geolocating to different (though somewhat nearby) places in the U.S., based on the behavior of 174.206.* (see List of Martha Speaks episodes history), all three of these IPs must be the same editor. If you see any other funny business here, please let me know – if it happens again, I would advise also looping Geraldo in. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:48, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Will go ahead and make Geraldo Perez aware now. Amaury • 22:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 January 23#Draft:Zombies 3 and User:Amaury/sandbox/Zombies 3

Please have a look at this, as this IP in particular appears to be obsessed with me—or, more specifically, my pages. For some examples, see the history of the following pages:

See also their messages to my talk page, which I deleted, here and here. You added a discussion with the next edit after that second one. I'm not necessarily asking for something to be done, at least not right now, as there's nothing to be done, but just to take a look. Thanks. Add: In the particular case of Zombies 3, the point is moot since the film has already premiered and my page was moved to mainspace (by yourself). And I usually have my sandbox pages deleted instead of becoming redirects, as you well know since I'll usually ask you not to leave a redirect, but still. Amaury • 22:57, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

I've voted keep at WP:RfD – you can see my rationale there. You reverted at your Sulphur Springs sandbox – as long as they don't do it again, there shouldn't be a problem there. The edit at The A Girl sandbox is technically correct. As for your LoE for PAW Patrol sandbox, I would advise either turning that into a proper redirect or WP:U1ing it. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:14, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Salute Your Shorts episodes

I tried my best to make it my own words this time around. So what? The descriptions should be left blank? 2600:6C50:23F:406E:9A87:8F47:144A:9359 (talk) 19:31, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

You can't paraphrase – episode plot summaries must be 100% in your own words after having watched the episode. As a general rule, if it's less than 100 words, it's less a plot summary than it is a "teaser synopsis" which is unsuitable for use on Wikipedia. It's a choice between the latter and "leave blank", "leave blank" is better, yes. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:35, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Was A Monster in Paris Original Language Was In English Or French.

You May Think The Original Language Was In French And The English Version Was Dubbed But You Apprently Actually Wrong It's The Opposite. Apprantley A Monster In Paris Original Language Was In English According To Matt Jones The Storyboard Artist On A Monster In Paris And Bibo Bergeron The Director Of A Monster In Paris. A Article On AnimeSuperhero By Ed Liu And From April 11, 2013 Called "A Monster In Paris"- Press Release Interviews, Clips, Slides Shows, & More. [3]

In So The Songs Were Recorded Before He Started The Animation Process, But What About The Other Voices? Bibo Bergeron Said EuropaCorp Asked Him To Recorded The Voices For English-Speaking Version Of The Movie Before They Started Animation. This Was Hardly A Novelty Or A Challenging For Him Because It Was How He Worked On His First-Two Movies (The Road To El Dorado And Shark Tale). So He Cast The American Voices And Flew Out To L.A. To Recorded Them. They Recorded The French Voices After The Animation Phase. A Article From CartoonBrew In June 15th 2011 By Amid Amidi Called TRAILER: Bibo Bergeron's "Un Monstre A Paris" [4] In The Comments He Said Although They Began Production In French The Film Was Eventually Animated To English Dialogue & He Guess That Will Be The Original Version, While The French Version Is Actually Dubbed! There's Even A Article About The Original/English Voice Cast Was Announced In February 12th 2010 By Borys Kit, AP On The Hollywood Reporter. [5] 2601:5CA:C303:E680:FC67:CB68:FD92:C25D (talk) 04:18, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

OK, first, TL;DR. Second, you saying that "it's true" is meaningless – you need to produce actual Reliable source references that back up your claims. And, even if you have that, it probably doesn't mean anything – this is undeniably a "French film", so its native language is "French", even if for some reason the English dub was recorded first.
Bottom line: You need to stop insisting that you "are right", and go to the article's talk page, and make your case there, with actual reliable sources to back your case up. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:29, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Incidentally, for reference, this is THR piece in question, and it says nothing about when the voice recordings actually took place. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:33, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

List of Fuller House episodes

I will also ping Amaury and Geraldo Perez. IP has been adding trivia or false info concerning the character of Michelle Tanner, or her portrayers Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, into episode summaries. It has been documented enough that the Olsen twins didn't participate in this Full House revival, and they are trying to emphasize WP:UNDUE-ly anything alluding to Michelle in these summaries, or making stuff up. May want to keep an eye on the parent article as well. MPFitz1968 (talk) 19:00, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

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OK, then I'm going to let you two work it out on the article talk page (or each other's talk page). No further discussion needs to take place here. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:03, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Are you able to fix this, for some reason I can't get it working. Thanks! If you can link the policies on tables that maybe helpful. Magical Golden Whip (talk) 17:15, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

@Magical Golden Whip: Which article are we talking about? --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:56, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
@IJBall: Sorry, thought I added it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven%27s_HomeMagical Golden Whip (talk) 19:24, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
(edit conflict) They're talking about Raven's Home (see history). The latest edits seem okay, other than adding an unnecessarily long list of awardees instead of just having the name of the series. In any case, instead of discussing the issue on the talk page to gain local consensus on the matter, they are once again complaining and have this time unnecessarily dragged me to ANI—to complain some more—because they don't know how things around here. In this case, actually discussing matters (WP:BRD), but I'm not going to continue to play their game on this one. They are also misgendering me. Not that I care or that it that bothers me, just pointing it out. They are trying to make an argument, but yet don't care enough to get a person's gender correct. And if gender is unknown, just go with neutral language. Amaury • 19:28, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
@Amaury:I explained in the edit summary when I reverted I took out the actors and just added back in the 2023 award, but you reverted. The edit was fine expect one actor I forgot to take out and the table being broken. While the table is still broken I am trying to learn how to fix it. Being a new user I don't know everything and trying to learn. The only reason I asked you to join the discussion on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television as I wanted your in put since this seems to be an ongoing issue as several shows have the actors included and others don't. I would like to take actors out of other iCarly, Drake & josh, Victorious, and other shows but since there is a conflict I am waiting. There was no reason to go to the Raven's Home talk page. I didn't do the ANI to complain, but find out how to deal with these issues between us. I am asking you questions when you just ignore and/or revert.Magical Golden Whip (talk) 20:00, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Award removal

I know there is the awards discussion going on, so is it okay to remove the favorite Actors from the iCarly, Victorious, Drake and Josh, and Zoey 101 pages? Or should I be waiting until a clear answer given for the discussion. It seems mixed right now. Magical Golden Whip (talk) 21:33, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

At this point, you can try it, and see if it is reverted – if it is, you leave it as it was. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:47, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, Yeah if it gets reverted I am just going to leave it alone. Magical Golden Whip (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Regarding Disney Channel original series

Apologies for the redirect change, but there is also Disney Channel Original Series, which currently redirects to List of programs broadcast by Disney Channel#Original. Given that the only difference it two letters that are capitalized/uncapitalized, shouldn't these redirects match (whether to the specific section or just to the article)?... Magitroopa (talk) 15:41, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

@Magitroopa: They should both redirect to just the article – the issue is that multiple sections ('Current programming', 'Former programming') deal with "Disney Channel original series", so you can't just redirect to the 'Current programming' section.
Incidentally, the fact that there are multiple (sub)sections with same section header is a MOS:HEAD/MOS:SECTION issue at this article (and others like it) – in other words, no two sections should have exactly the same header (e.g. 'Original', 'Acquired'), which is happening here. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:12, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Regarding In Pursuit of Honor at Gabrielle Anwar

Sorry --173.244.49.15 (talk) 20:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

No prob. Just remember to check the 'Television' section of the WP:FILMOGRAPHY section next time. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:40, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Powers (American TV series)

The bot User:MenoBot which "fixes" redirects after a move does a horrible job. If you do a merge again like you did at Powers (American TV series) and there are episode redirects, please let me know so I can do an easy AWB job to fix them. Gonnym (talk) 09:24, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

@Gonnym: Wow, there were episode redirects for that show?! I didn't even consider that!... Anyway, OK, I'll try to remember to let you know if I do another one of those. (And I want to say I have seen another one lately that should probably be merged... But I usually tag them for a few weeks before I merge, so there should be plenty of warning.) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:53, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Odd message about Darcy's Wild Life

Hello IJBall! I notice you keep an eye on the Darcy article, among others, just thought I'd let you know about an odd message I got on my Talk page from an editor related to it, here. Basically telling me not to change the producer and distributor again, problem is I didn't. I let them know that & also replaced the five references they removed without explanation from the Darcy article as part of their edit to restore Discovery Communications. Ugh, I've been desperately trying to avoid any controversy & just improve articles but something always seems to come my way. :( Anyway, just wanted to let you know in case you were wondering what was going on in that article. Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 18:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Commented on your Talk page. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:41, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Ned's Declassified cast edits, adding source for podcast

Hi, sorry about my recent edits. I'm still new to making more substantial changes. I've updated the Devon Werkheiser article with a new source from Variety, which I should've let you know about before reverting your revert. Is that a satisfactory source? Would it be ok to apply to the other cast member pages? Thanks. Fuser55 (talk) 18:26, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

@Fuser55: I am still not totally convinced that this is WP:DUE, but Variety at least makes it probably DUE for Werkheiser, and maybe(/maybe not) "DUE" for his two co-stars. (Note, I cut out one of the Primary sources for this as unnecessary.)
I still say it is WP:UNDUE at Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide, and would oppose its inclusion there, even with the Variety source. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:47, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Understood, and I agree it should not be included in the show's page. Thanks. Fuser55 (talk) 19:00, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

User ZohoOneFan88

A user to keep an eye on. I've just done a mass revert of not all their edits, but all their edits on anything related to Zoey 101. Other edits likely should be checked out, but I only did those. The user in question added many non-notable episodes to disambiguation, and disambiguation pages require a page to exit and have a link. Non-notable, by which I of course mean not notable enough to have their own episode articles. The user in question also added a lot of unsourced birthdate information, and I've given them DE and unsourced warnings. Ping Geraldo Perez and MPFitz1968 as well. Amaury • 20:14, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Dear IJBall,
I am sorry for apologizing to Amaury that I will not add any non-notable episodes to disambiguation pages ever again.
Thank you.
ZohoOneFan88 (talk) 22:46, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Big Time Rush and the current discussion at WT:MOSTV#Streaming service coverage

I've been following the discussion at MOSTV and it seems we should not be including something like the following (this comes from the Big Time Rush article, under the "Broadcast" section):

As of March 2021, the series is available to stream on Netflix and Paramount+. The series was previously available to stream on Hulu until it was removed in March 2021.

I just reverted an IP who added to that set of sentences, about when it's going to leave Netflix. [6] That, plus the above, is going against the current discussion at MOSTV. Should this streaming mention in Big Time Rush be removed? MPFitz1968 (talk) 16:10, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@MPFitz1968: Correct – you would only mention something like this if it gets significant secondary source coverage – something like The CW's deal for its shows on Netflix. Garden variety "rerun syndication" on either broadcast TV channels or on streaming does not merit mention in TV series articles, as per basically WP:NOTTVGUIDE (among others).
(This reminds me that I have to work on rewording that section of MOS:TV this week...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:22, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Your talk page note and abrupt revision of my edits

Your revision of my constructive edits did nothing to enhance the page. You referenced that I overlinked? I added no links. I did correct the two links to the city of birth and university, and there is no reason for you to view that as anything but constructive. And I changed the heading "Early life" to "Early life and education", which is proper given that the content includes education and is the more commonly-used heading. In summary, you seem merely to be protecting the page from ANY edits and your assertion that mine were not productive seems baseless. How so exactly? Your reaction seems disproportionate to what, in summation, were routine and useful edits. Keystone18 (talk) 20:38, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

It's hardly "disproportionate" when it is in response to a continuing pattern from you. Beyond that, a lot of the edits were questionable – changing the section heading was probably unnecessary. There was no reason for you to violate WP:ELMINOFFICIAL. And you continue your clear WP:OVERLINKing editing, after having been warned about previously, unnecessarily changing "Philadelphia, Pennsylvania" to "Philadelphia, Pennsylvania" (so, no – you did "add a link") – the correct course of action here is to either leave it alone, or change to just "Philadelphia, Pennsylvania". It's pretty much impossible to assume that this is an "innocent mistake" when you've been warned previously about exactly this kind of editing... If you want to restore the "B.A." stuff, that's fine. But a lot of the rest of what you did was either unnecessary or contra-MOS. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:45, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
There are no violations of those policies you reference (have you actually read them?) in my fixing two misdirected links. The linkage of city and states next to each other is not specifically addressed in the policy and maybe should be but you would commonly see it structured the way I did it and almost never the way you are proposing as a conscious redirect. The edits were minor and entirely consistent with editing policies. And I will reinstate them; I don't need your permission for that, actually. Keystone18 (talk) 20:59, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
This response proves I was right to distrust you, and right to assume that you have not changed your attitude (which is basically WP:OWNish of most Pennsylvania-related articles, and which is also WP:SPAish), or your bad editing. If you restore any of the edits I have objected to, I will simply revert them again. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:03, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
@Keystone18: I told you actually how to "fix" the Philadelphia link. What did you ignore this?... Again, WP:NOPIPE and WP:NOTBROKEN are "things" that are relevant. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:14, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Punky Brewster

There is a disruptive IP adding to the article, for the original series of the show, that its revival in 2021 is Season 5. As I looked thru the archives in the talk page, specifically Talk:Punky_Brewster/Archive 1#2021_Revival, I saw your comment about if sources didn't identify the revival as a continuation of the original (aka "season 5"), then info about the revival shouldn't be added into the article as if it were part of the original series. MPFitz1968 (talk) 02:06, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Get 'em blocked! – If no WP:RSs call it "season #5" (and I don't think anyone did), then what the IP is doing is pure WP:DE/WP:Edit warring. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:08, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Xenia Goodwin

 – --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:26, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

grace van dien

please do not put back that article from variety on this page. the actress herself has confirmed it misquoted her and ran without her consent 67.83.25.239 (talk) 00:49, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Take it to the article's talk page please. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 01:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Location of dispute noticeboard

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Suggestion to DCOM intro

Hi IJBall, it's been long since we had a brawl on on the health and updates about DCOM here on WP. I want a suggestion from you about restructuring the lead section as it has become obvious to those who track that page on their WP visit. I want it something like this:

"American children-and-family-oriented basic cable channel and former premium television channel, Disney Channel, has aired multiple television films since its launch on April 18, 1983. They were broadcast under the banner name of Disney Channel Premiere Films until October 1997 and Disney Channel Original Movie thereafter."

Also on my last question, you mentioned that sources should be provided about DCOMs moving to Disney+ since 2020. I'm wondering after reading through Spin and Zombies 3 that the sources go individual rather than collective, but I'm seeing a hidden trend there; maybe you just aren't seeing it. Regards!! Intrisit (talk) 20:05, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

@Intrisit: To be clear, I don't think anything is much wrong with the current lede opening, and the current is clearer that these films have been "produced for" Disney Channel. Your version would need to be revised to say "...multiple original television films..." or "...multiple originally-produced television films..." or even "...has produced multiple television films for broadcast since its launch..."
The other thing is that I think we should actually wait to do any revisions until your second point is dealt with. It has already come up on the Talk page at the Talk:List of Disney Channel original films#“Disney Original Movie” Branding. I think we are now waiting to see what happens with this going forward. If we get 4–5 of these films branded as "Disney Original Movies" rather than "Disney Channel Original Movies" then we are going to need to do a wider revision of the article at that time. So I would rather wait a bit on any major revisions... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Siena Agudong

I may need more eyes here. Amaury • 03:34, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

And I'd say it's clear it's the same person whose account was recently blocked for this exact disruptive behavior based on the IP's comments. Amaury • 04:05, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Either you should report to WP:AIV, or let Geraldo know and he can. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
@Geraldo Perez: A report might be better coming from you at this point. Definitely at AIV, but perhaps RFPP as well, though I don't know if the latter is warranted yet. Amaury • 04:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
@Amaury: I did report as a sock but the article got protected instead of the sock blocked. Also see my note on the talk page. I think we should use her own words in describing herself and I don't think ambiguous passing mention from a Philippine source have much meaning beyond Filipina from Hawaii. Geraldo Perez (talk) 07:30, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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2600:1700:9DD0:8FD0:90D7:2623:8DD:A912

I don't have time right now, but seems this IP is just a troll. Please keep an eye on them. Logos are fair use. And every time I uploaded them, I just copied and pasted the information using the framework that Alexiaa (formerly Nyuszika7H) provided, since at the time I didn't know that much and had just begun doing that stuff. Amaury • 14:49, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Not all logos are protected by copyright. Logos that contain simple text/shapes generally fall below the required threshold of originality for copyright protection, at least in the United States. Examples include File:AT&T logo 2016.svg, File:Google 2015 logo.svg and File:McDonald's Golden Arches.svg. 2600:1700:9DD0:8FD0:90D7:2623:8DD:A912 (talk) 15:56, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Logos and such are above my pay-grade – maybe Geraldo Perez can shed some light on this issue (at Sydney to the Max(?), specifically). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Logos might be uncopyrightable based on lack of originality, but that is a judgment call and unless it is something like trivial lettering it is best to leave that judgment to the lawyers. If you see Disney in the logo using the stylized Disney it is likely not free-use. Generally all free-use stuff should be on Commons and Commons tends to reject any logos uploaded there as non free-use if there is any doubt. Best to upload show logos to enwiki and tag with the appropriate non-free-use logo rational and limit use to a single article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:19, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Fantasy Island

Thoughts? Does this seem like an attempt to list every single guest stars or not? Pinging Amaury and Geraldo Perez. — YoungForever(talk) 01:24, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

@YoungForever: I have reported them to WP:ANEW for their WP:IDHT mentality and refusing to abide by WP:BRD, WP:ONUS, and WP:STATUSQUO, as well as making up their own definition of things. Amaury • 01:44, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
@Amaury: Thank you. Btw, 2600:8807:a00:23:e1cf:8c1d:152a:60c3 is also them as they were doing the same disruptive edits and 2600:8807:A00:23:5568:8D8F:965C:8528 replied on 2600:8807:a00:23:e1cf:8c1d:152a:60c3's talk. Based on a general consensus on WP:TV and MOS:TV past discussions, we most certainly do not list every single guest stars on a main TV series article, especially when a TV series have a lot of new guest stars every single episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YoungForever (talk • contribs) 02:02, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
Somebody was trying to do something similar at Gotham Knights (TV series) – I put a stop to it.
Also, crediting level matters – somebody tried to list someone under 'Recurring' at The Ark (TV series), but the actress only gets co-starring credit, and more importantly the character has never gotten an independent storyline.
Bottom line – only "notable" guest (or recurring) stars/characters should be listed: either independently notable actors, or guest characters that play substantive parts in an episode's or TV show's storyline(s). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:12, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
They also added majority of season 2 guest stars repeatedly as shown here. — YoungForever(talk) 04:20, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
They got ranged blocked for a week, but is evading block by using other IP addresses outside the range blocked. — YoungForever(talk) 17:10, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
You will need to keep report the new IPs/IP ranges to WP:AIV. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Contested a WP:PROD at Lauren Lindsey Donzis

The editor proposing the deletion via that route cited that there's "zero good sourcing" and none of the sources establishes WP:GNG. While I agree with that, I also see that Donzis has multiple significant roles, across three different series, and per WP:NACTOR, that is sufficient, if only barely (especially with all three series she was involved in, it was for one season each). I'd rather see some additional feedback from other editors via AfD, rather than just letting the PROD go its seven days (it was four days in as of my contesting) and see the article deleted like that.

Honestly, I'd say the chances that the article survives AfD is pretty small ... and I'm not sure if Donzis has other acting projects going on right now. But given the NACTOR criteria for this one, I think PROD wasn't quite the right move. Also, I am thinking NACTOR needs to be more clear, like what constitutes "significant" and whether duration in a project, e.g. TV/streaming series, should factor in (I recall some argument made on the latter regarding Larry Joe Campbell's notability a few years back, because of his long involvement on According to Jim). Bottom line, does main cast always = significant? MPFitz1968 (talk) 21:12, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

An actor/actress can credibly "technically" pass WP:NACTOR, but still fail the far more crucial WP:BASIC criteria. (Canadian actress Kendra Leigh Timmins was found to be an example of this, and honestly I think Donzis is in a similar situation...)
So, I'd likely vote delete here, unless someone can find a lot more sourcing to satisfy WP:BASIC – she simply has not had high enough profile roles in high enough profile projects IMO. (That could change in the future if she doesn't retire from acting now that she's college-aged.)
The issue is that there seem to be a lot of inclusionists prowling AfD recently, and it wouldn't shock me to see some of them try to argue that Donzis is notable... But, IMO, she's not right there now, and I'd likely vote delete at AfD based on the current state of the article. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:34, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
I was taking a look at the AfD for Kendra Timmins, and I've become more convinced that GNG or BASIC must be met, even over things like NACTOR, NSINGER, etc. While I won't comment regarding my position with Donzis, it has me thinking about another article that should be taken to AfD - and I know you suggested it a couple of years ago, per User talk:IJBall/Archive 35#Olivia Sanabia. (I also know you weren't going to touch that after it failed an RfD.) Reviewing the existing sources there, and discounting the three about a couple of songs, plus one about Young Artist Award nominations, the remainder, just two sources, fail to convince me that she would pass BASIC - just fan fodder like her favorite things or stuff in the context of Just Add Magic. What do you think?
Before I take this one to AfD, I'll see if I can find more significant coverage about her, which the article in its current state of sources doesn't have. MPFitz1968 (talk) 16:23, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Let me know if you take either to AfD - I will probably take a look at those... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:09, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Donzis is currently at AfD here, nominated by the same editor who PRODded it. Oh, I also noted Sanabia's co-star in Just Add Magic, Abby Donnelly (who plays Darbie), was recently deleted via an AfD, and it appears she had multiple significant roles (also main cast in Malibu Rescue, which like the shows Donzis has been in didn't last long) but from the discussion didn't pass BASIC/GNG. Another case where a redirect wouldn't be feasible, like with Sanabia, should her article see the same fate. MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:35, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Terrible attitude

That was a ridiculous thing to do. You reverted me, then used almost exactly the same phrase to claim the edit as your own.

Page ownership is a terrible thing. Chaosdruid (talk) 16:56, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

@Chaosdruid: It wasn't ridiculous – on balance, your change was not an improvement over the original: you didn't seem to understand that "recur" can be a verb, and you changed "the" role to "a" role, which was basically incorrect in context. But, in looking at your clause order switch, I decided that that was a net improvement, so I did that part.
This whole thing could have been avoided if after the first reversion you had asked me what my objections were, instead of blindly re-reverting. That's why it's called WP:Bold, revert, discuss. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:59, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
Or you could have talked to me and explained that, without reverting ... but after seeing all your reversions, page controlling techniques and quoting of various "rules" back at people, I know what you are.
"If your reversion was reverted, then do not re-revert to your version." Chaosdruid (talk) 00:39, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Olivia Sanabia now at AfD

Just wanted to drop you a note on that, since you requested it. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olivia Sanabia. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:11, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Tom Nowicki

Hello @IJBall:, could You please help me with this draft of American actor Tom Nowicki for later be summited? Votbek (talk) 23:31, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Journeyman character actor. The issue is that character actors have lots of roles, but not necessarily significant roles. They also tend not to get secondary source coverage. The draft does seem to have some sourcing/coverage (though maybe more from the wrestling side than from the acting side). If you can find more coverage like that, you might be able to convince WP:AfC to put the article in mainspace... One piece of advice – for someone like this, I would advise doing a "Select filmography". For a subject like this, a "complete filmography" will contain too many entries, and will contain a lot of minor roles. For the Filmography, I would focus on the more important, notable roles. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:54, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
I found an interview of him here, that might help to convince WP:AfC to be on mainspace, also I would like your help to put The information of the sources to the article. Votbek (talk) 00:10, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
Also, can you help to find a image of him that can available on Commons? Votbek (talk) 00:16, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
Interviews are generally considered WP:Primary sources, and thus are considered to not contribute to notability. On images, I'm not much help – all you can do is search Commons: if you find nothing, it means there are likely no images that can be used on Wikipedia. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:15, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Tyrel Jackson Williams

Please forgive my confusion, but what do you mean by secondary sources? In this case, would they be sources that are different from those seen on the Coy Stewart page or would it be something else? BlueSpikez 19:02, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

@BlueSpikez: Anyone can be in a "band" (etc.) That doesn't make it an encyclopedic concern – it may just be a non-notable hobby. It is merits mention in Wikipedia if other people notice it – i.e. if it gets significant Secondary source coverage in press/media outlets. Members of the band publishing info on this to their social media is a Primary source, and thus not "independent" of the subject. IOW, it's only noteworthy if it gets "press coverage"... Incidentally, the same applies to the Coy Stewart page – IMO, this should not be mentioned there either. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:10, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
Okay, thank you for the clarification. BlueSpikez 19:15, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
Also, I have stumbled upon an example of press coverage for the topic. Would you mind reviewing it to make sure it's reliable? BlueSpikez 19:16, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
@BlueSpikez: What is the link? (To answer: It depends on the "quality" of the source – if it's a single source and it's something like a "teen gossip mag", then that is not good enough; but if it's several sources, at say the Seventeen magazine or higher level, it would likely be acceptable.) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
I have one from The New Yorker and one from Vice. Here are the links: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/11/02/grouptherapy-embodies-a-new-model-of-cultural-versatility https://i-d.vice.com/en/article/g5pj97/grouptherapy-los-angeles-music-collective-interview-raise-it-up
I am not sure on the reliabilty of the Vice article, however. BlueSpikez 20:45, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
@BlueSpikez: The New Yorker is good enough – that merits a mention in the article (using this article as a source). The Vice source is probably less good, but I would go ahead and include it as well. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:47, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you so much! BlueSpikez 20:48, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

All the World Is Sleeping

You changed the year of the movie to 2021, because it was shown that year on the NY festival. In the infobox stands still the worldwide release date (the date when it came on ondemand and in cinema).. should we change this to? Greetingz RuedNL2 (talk) 12:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@RuedNL2: The festival release date needs to be added to the infobox too – there are many example of this in film articles: for one off the top of my head, see Pyewacket (film). But it is long-standing practice in WP:FILM that the "release date" is the first time a film is shown publicly anywhere, not its "wide" release date. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 12:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for the quick replay, I have changed the release date in the infobox so that it looks like Pyewacket (film). RuedNL2 (talk) 12:45, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you

The Special Barnstar
This is to thank you for all your help on Galidor: Defenders of the Outer Dimension. I've never tackled a project like this before, and I'd probably have fallen flat if not for the sources you found, and the advice you and others gave. Without it, I doubt I'd have been able to find as many sources as I did for this extremely obscure media project. I'm planning to let the article rest for a while, then take it to GAN with a fresh perspective. Once again, many thanks for your help, and wishing you well in your future Wikipedia endeavours. ProtoDrake (talk) 22:51, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Gotham Knights

I added the statement to show how The CW has had to handle fundinv the series, which clearly satisfies the "Production" part. It wasn't about any potential cancellation. Please don't remove my edit again. Linkin Prankster (talk) 20:32, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

@Linkin Prankster: It is incredibly rude to make "demands" like this, and WP:BRD applies. I am going to revert. Take your discussion to the article's talk page. If other editors find your addition relevant, it can be added back. But I don't find it relevant, absent a renewal/cancellation decision. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:35, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
It was not a demand and I don't get why you think so. BRD is not a policy and I'll revert you if you revert me again. Wikipedia is not owned by you. Linkin Prankster (talk) 20:36, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
So your solution is to edit war, rather than discuss? Got it – you should not be editing Wikipedia, from the sounds of it. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:37, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
You're edit warring yourself in case you're unaware. Linkin Prankster (talk) 20:38, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, no I am not. But I'm about to leave you a warning. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:39, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

IP 165.51.226.131

Please keep an eye on this IP. I've already issued a final warning, so any further disruption should result in a report. I mass reverted all of their edits, save a few who were already reverted by others. Ping Geraldo Perez as well. Amaury • 17:31, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

FYI, this is an LTA- User talk:Magitroopa/Long-term abuse/Television vandal from Tunisia. Magitroopa (talk) 19:48, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
This is also the same LTA trouble previously discussed at User talk:Geraldo Perez/Archive 28#Need Some Assistance, re: List of American television programs currently in production, User talk:Geraldo Perez/Archive 29#Tunisia IPs, and WP:ANI#LTA Tunisia IPs- yeah, it's a massive issue that will just continue on. Just revert and report at AIV as soon as you see a new IP/range. Magitroopa (talk) 20:05, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Now at yet another IP, so watch out for edits on the range. Magitroopa (talk) 22:00, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
@Magitroopa: You're more familiar with this than I am. Could you provide more details/context over at my WP:ANI WP:AVI report, please? Thanks. Amaury • 20:40, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
I think you mean AIV. Already blocked. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:46, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Ben Roberts-Smith

Hi, I've started an RfC on the talkpage of Ben Roberts-Smith that may be of interest to you. AlanStalk 09:25, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

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