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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022[edit]
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The Signpost: 31 October 2022[edit]
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The Signpost: 28 November 2022[edit]
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Women in Red January 2023[edit]
 
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The Signpost: 1 January 2023[edit]
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DYK for Joan Fubbs[edit]
On 2 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joan Fubbs, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the parliamentary sign-language interpreter could not make out what South African MP Joan Fubbs tried to say in her tribute to President Cyril Ramaphosa? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joan Fubbs. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Joan Fubbs), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023[edit]
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The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
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The Signpost: 16 January 2023[edit]
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Wikipedia birthday pics[edit]
As promised, some pictures from yesterday's Wikipedia birthday party. You can also see the category Category:Wikipedia birthday 2023 for more.
Discott (talk) 08:09, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, @Discott:, thank you for organising the event, the high-quality photos and cake. My younger siblings devoured the slice of cake I brought them, before we even reached the turn-off to the N1! Best, Lefcentreright Discuss 12:26, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 4 February 2023[edit]
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The Signpost: 20 February 2023[edit]
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The Signpost: 9 March 2023[edit]
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The Signpost: 20 March 2023[edit]
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The Signpost: 03 April 2023[edit]
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New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive[edit]
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The Signpost: 26 April 2023[edit]
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- In the media: Contested truth claims in Wikipedia
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The Signpost: 8 May 2023[edit]
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DYK for Kay Moonsamy[edit]
On 6 June 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kay Moonsamy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that fifteen years after South African anti-apartheid activist Kay Moonsamy went into exile, he saw his wife and children again? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kay Moonsamy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Kay Moonsamy), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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The Signpost: 19 June 2023[edit]
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Women in Red July 2023[edit]
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The Signpost: 17 July 2023[edit]
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Women in Red 8th Anniversary[edit]
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The Signpost: 1 August 2023[edit]
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The Signpost: 15 August 2023[edit]
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Photo with Jimbo[edit]
I thought that you would like to know about this photo of you, Ingrid, and Jimbo Wales. Discott (talk) 04:44, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 31 August 2023[edit]
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I assume her mother must be Maureen Thelma Watson, but can't find any sources that confirm. Might be worth investigating. Cheers, Number 57 19:52, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Number 57, I'll try my best to find a reliable source confirming it. Best, Lefcentreright Discuss 13:26, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 16 September 2023[edit]
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Cabinets[edit]
Hi Shamwari, I've been thinking on this and want your thoughts... I don't think we should call it the "First" cabinet / "Second" cabinet etc - because it's not. Mnangagwa has reshuffled a bit during his last term in office, so there are several cabinets therein. I think of the British articles that talk about the "First May ministry" or the "Second May ministry", which also reflects the differences in the composition of cabinets during a term of office. I think this is more sensible and also logical for the realities of reshuffles.
On the one hand, I'm reluctant to call it the "Third Mnangagwa ministry", as the presidency is not really a ministry in that sense. However, under the Constitution, he is only still serving two terms - as the stint after the coup does not count as a full term, but merely an extension of the term he won after the 2018 election. For that reason calling it the "Third Mnangagwa presidency" would be wrong, as we are currently in the second term. He can not constitutionally have three terms.
So that just really takes us back to the "Second Mnangagwa ministry" or "Second Mnangagwa office" or "Second Mnangagwa term". What do you think? Mangwanani (talk) 00:06, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, @Mangwanani:. First of all, I would just like to thank you for your edits to Zimbabwean-related content over the past couple of weeks. Now, for my thoughts on your query.
- This is how I view it, when Mnangagwa was sworn in to complete the term of former president Robert Mugabe in November 2017, he appointed a cabinet, which one can now call his "first cabinet", because he has served more than one term. Less than a year later, he won the 2018 presidential election. He was then sworn in for his full term as president in his own right and appointed a cabinet which is basically his "second cabinet" because it succeeded the first. He reshuffled it quite a bit during his first full term, but did not appoint a new cabinet. Now, less than a month ago, he won the 2023 presidential election. He was then sworn in on 4 September for his second full term. On 11 September, he named a new cabinet following his swearing-in which one can call his "third cabinet" because it replaced the second.
- Looking at the UK ministries articles, for instance, the May ministry disambiguation page. In July 2016, Theresa May shook the Queen's hand and became prime minister. May then appointed the First May ministry which succeeded the Second Cameron ministry of former prime minister David Cameron. Less than a year later, when May lost her majority in the 2017 general election, she once again visited the Queen and was reappointed as prime minister since she led the Conservative Party which had the most seats in the Commons. She reshuffled her ministry in January 2018 which the Second May ministry article calls the "Second Cabinet of the Second May ministry".
- I don't understand why the Second May Ministry article calls the 2018 reshuffle the start of the "Second Cabinet of the Second May ministry" because in my opinion, it should just be the "Second May Ministry".
- Section 104 and onwards of Part 3 of Chapter 5 of the Zimbabwean constitution makes provision for the appointment of a cabinet comprising the President, Vice-Presidents and Ministers as well as Deputy Ministers to assist the Ministers. A minister leads a ministry like the Minister of Finance leads the Ministry of Finance. Now, Section 108 deals with the tenure of Ministers and Deputy Ministers.
- Section 108 (1) says: The office of a Minister or Deputy Minister becomes vacant—
- (c) upon the assumption of office by a new President.
- Section 108 (4) says the following: "Subject to this Constitution, in the event of a dissolution of Parliament, Ministers and Deputy Ministers continue to hold office as such until the President-elect assumes office after a general election".
- What I understand from above is that when a President-elect assumes office to complete the term of the immediate former president or won an election for a full term in their own right, the cabinet of their predecessor or the President-elect's preceding cabinet is dissolved when they take office. The newly sworn in President then appoints a new cabinet. From what I also could gather is that nowhere in the Zimbabwean constitution is provision made for multiple cabinets during a president's term. The president can reshuffle the cabinet and appoint new ministers and dismiss old ones but that does not equate to a new cabinet being formed, if I understand what I read correctly.
- In conclusion, I think calling it the "First Cabinet of Emmerson Mnangagwa", the "Second Cabinet of Emmerson Mnangagwa" and the "Third Cabinet of Emmerson Mnangagwa" is the correct terminology to refer to the cabinets he named in 2017, 2018 and 2023. I've spent more than two hours writing this reply.
- Best, Lefcentreright Discuss 21:35, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
- Oh my goodness! I'm so sorry! I didn't want to cause you such headaches and take over two hours of your time. It was just a thought that had been niggling away at me and I didn't really know the answer...
- I think the situation Zimbabwe finds itself in is a strange one. It is sort of following the Westminster systemn as close as it can until 1987, where Mugabe makes himself executive president. We have then the reappearance of a Prime Minister with Tsvangirai and the GNU. We're now into the new Constitution, which is still trying to model itself on the Westminster system, with constituencies and ministers taken from Parliament (bar 7...), but is altogether a creation of its own.
- Looking at the Second May ministry is interesting, because a "new" cabinet is only formed after a complete and formal reshuffle with several people changing roles. Yet if you look at the Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union, for example, in the 2018-19 cabinet, we have three separate people serving in that role in one "cabinet" as they resigned etc. So a new cabinet is not formed when only one person is replaced
- I think what I am keen for us to establish is some consistent names for things, so that we can work backwards fully and develop Mugabe's various cabinets, as well as set a solid foundation/precedent for future ones.
- A thought has suddenly struck me as I write this reply to you, though I'm not sure what you might think of it.... Rather than call it the nth cabinet of whichever President - why do we not call it the nth Government of Zimbabwe? If we are establishing cabinets in the lines of the Constitution, ie between elections, then ergo they are the cabinet of the nth Government. This would work well in lining them up alongside the Parliament pages (alebit most haven't been created yet...) and people could easily navigate between the Parliament, the members of Parliament, and the members of the cabinets. That then resolves any confusion that might arise from the fact that, legally, ED (and future Presidents in a similar situation to him) will only serve two terms of office, as that first pre-election stint wasn't long enough to count as a term. Mnangagwa therefore merely brought the 8th Government to a close... Also the new Constitution makes it abundantly clear that the Head of Government is the President, while the Head of Parliament is the Speaker, so that keeps a nice legal consistency there too.
- This suddenly seems to me to be a happy via media - but you might think otherwise. Mangwanani (talk) 14:59, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
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