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Nomination of Pell Mell for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pell Mell is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pell Mell until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. KDS4444Talk 19:54, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Control copyright icon Hello Luckibrian, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to Citadel of Faith Covenant Church has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

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Hi Diannaa, I am the Website Lead for Citadel of Faith, so I didn't think there would be a copyright issue. (How can I verify this?) The problem is, Citadel of Faith is incorrectly redirecting to "Temple Beth-El" for some reason, so I am trying to correct this. It's messing up our Google search results. Luckibrian (talk) 13:39, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The article Citadel of Faith Covenant Church has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:NCHURCH. The sources provided are closely linked to the church and its pastor, and a WP:BEFORE search yields little substantive content.

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June 2023

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Information icon Hello, I'm Tgeorgescu. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Heli (biblical figure) seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. See WP:RNPOV. tgeorgescu (talk) 19:10, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The paragraph in question currently begins: "If Matthew's genealogy is that of Mary, and Luke's of Joseph...". It appears that a simple mistake was made of interposing the names "Matthew" and "Luke," because the common suggestion is actually that Luke’s genealogy is that of Mary, and Matthew’s genealogy is that of Joseph — not the other way around. In fact, earlier in this very article (in the section titled "Two genealogies of Jesus"), it is mentioned that the common suggestion is "Matthew's account follows the lineage of Joseph, while Luke's follows the lineage of Mary." This can also be verified via the following references: [1][2][3][4] Luckibrian (talk) 00:03, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
To cut a long story short, there is no genealogy of Mary in the Bible. tgeorgescu (talk) 00:31, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then why include an entire section addressing the premise that “Matthew's genealogy is that of Mary”? Why not delete the entire section, or else correct the premise so that it corresponds to the common suggestion that Luke’s genealogy is that of Mary? Luckibrian (talk) 01:01, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We do render it as notable opinion, not as WP:THETRUTH. tgeorgescu (talk) 10:14, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It seems less than neutral to include in this section the relatively obscure opinion that “Matthew's genealogy is that of Mary” without also including the much more common opinion that “Luke’s genealogy is that of Mary.” Luckibrian (talk) 15:11, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't oppose having both views in the article. tgeorgescu (talk) 21:25, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds agreeable to me. Luckibrian (talk) 01:03, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Ironside, Harry A. (2007). Luke. Kregel Academic. p. 73. ISBN 978-0825496653.
  2. ^ Ryrie, Charles C. (1999). Basic Theology: A Popular Systematic Guide to Understanding Biblical Truth. Moody Publishers. ISBN 978-1575674988.
  3. ^ Schaff, Philip (1882), The Gospel According to Matthew, New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, pp. 4–5, ISBN 0-8370-9740-1
  4. ^ Robertson, A.T. "Commentary on Luke 3:23". "Robertson's Word Pictures of the New Testament". Broadman Press 1932,33, Renewal 1960.