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Link page from wikimedia.Commons with page exisiting on en.wikiipedia with no existing item on wikidata fails

Hello Mike,

I just created a new task on phabricator Link page from wikimedia.Commons with page exisiting on en.wikiipedia with no existing item on wikidata fails which might interest you. Feel free to contribute there.

Thanks --Robby (talk) 22:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Commons category

Articles like Belvoir station no longer display the correct link. Can you find a way to fix this or revert your most recent edit to the template? Cards84664 (talk) 00:38, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

It looks like @Ferret: fixed it with this revert, and has protected that template to stop it from happening again. I'm running through Category:Pages with script errors with null edits to clean up the caching errors from this. @RexxS: I guess that edit completely broke WikidataIB for a change in the date module to have affected the commons link? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 00:55, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Can someone arrange for a scan of unprotected high risk modules? This previously happened with Module:I18n/complex date as well, back in November. That case was unintentional and meant well, but this one was deliberate vandalism (User is blocked now, see their other contribs). -- ferret (talk) 00:57, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
That's not something I know how to do beyond checking the dependencies of Module:WikidataIB, sorry. Mike Peel (talk) 00:58, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
I left a quick section at WP:AN#Scan/check for unprotected high risk modules?, maybe someone there will recall who worked on it last. -- ferret (talk) 01:07, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
@Ferret: Thanks. Your estimate of the number of transclusions is a bit off, BTW - it's actually 787,500 (as {{Commons category}} uses it now). In reality, around 3,000 articles were actually affected, though, due to caching. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 01:12, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Yeah I was just looking at that myself and boggling at the number. 22K I think was just for IBVG. Tweaked AN post to match. -- ferret (talk) 01:17, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
I've template-editor-protected Module:ISOdate, which has the same transclusion count (as it's transcluded the same way). Maybe @Trappist the monk and MusikAnimal: know how to find any others (since they protected the other modules I just checked)? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 01:43, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:DateI18n&action=history - needs protection and range block --RexxS (talk) 03:17, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
@RexxS: protected -- ferret (talk) 03:20, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Probably best to move this to the AN thread. Johnuniq found another one too. -- ferret (talk) 03:26, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Ferret. I had to create that module as we already had a Module:Date which is different from the Module:Date expected by the original Module:Complex date. I really need to spend some time integrating as much code as I can into WikidataIB to improve its portability. --RexxS (talk) 03:33, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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This Month in Education: January 2019

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Pi Bot malfunction

Pi Bot removed a useful link to commons:Category:Minkowski diagrams at Minkowski space. JRSpriggs (talk) 01:47, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

@JRSpriggs: Thanks for letting me know. The 'bullet' parameter doesn't actually exist in the template, so pi bot wasn't looking for it. I've tweaked the code to fix that. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:36, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

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Manchester meetup 36 - 9 June 2019

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Hi Mike, running into a few differences of opinion at Rigel (thought, bugger it, if Betelgeuse is FA then why not Rigel) - questions about GAIA, visual magnitude etc. See talk page for discussion. All input appreciated. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:06, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

WBKE/WTCS Cats

Yeah, but the bot is moving the cat to one that is incorrect. The callsign is WBKE, not WTCS. That should be clear from the rest of the article. - NeutralhomerTalk • 18:27 on February 10, 2019 (UTC)

@Neutralhomer: But it used to be WTCS? There's not much point changing the commons category link to the new callsign without actually moving the commons category to c:Category:WBKE. I've now done that for you. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:39, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, I appreciate that. :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 18:50 on February 10, 2019 (UTC)

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