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Your recent revert

Could you explain this? Mistake, perhaps? — MusikAnimal talk 01:54, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi MusikAnimal. My apologies, I was attempting to remove the edit by the serial vandal Kmvhmv and instead, accidentally undid the wrong edit, thus adding back the vandalism added by User:73.43.100.205. OSX (talk • contributions) 07:04, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
No worries, I figured this much. Just wanted to make sure your account hadn't been compromised or something! Best — MusikAnimal talk 14:14, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!

Happy Halloween!

Hello OSX:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
    – –Davey2010 • (talk) 22:39, 27 October 2014 (UTC)



Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.
Why thank you! And likewise to you :) OSX (talk • contributions) 23:19, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
You're welcome and thanks :) –Davey2010 • (talk) 23:21, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Australian motorsport vehicles

There is a discussion at WikiProject Motorsport you may or may not have an opinion on. V7867 (talk) 17:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Toyota Mirai

Hi OSX. Since you are one of the experts in Toyota's vehicles, I would like to consult with you that now that Toyota named is series production Toyota FCV as Toyota Mirai, shall we renamed the FCV article, or keep the FCV as the concept/preproduction and create a new article for the Mirai? In the mean time I created a redirect from Mirai to the FCV article. Also, please feel free to do any appropriate changes yourself. --Cheers.Mariordo (talk) 13:58, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your query :) My personal preference is to keep concept models with their production cars if there is a strong relationship. As the Mirai is very close to the concept FCV model, they should stay as one article, using the production title Toyota Mirai. I have nothing against articles for concept cars, but in cases where the concept clearly morphs into a production model, I'd consider the concept to be part of the development history/preview of the production car (i.e. treat as a single vehicle). This is how the Chevy Volt and its series of concept models is covered—and it works well IMO. I hope this is of assistance to you. Regards, OSX (talk • contributions) 14:36, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your prompt reply. I will follow your advice.--Mariordo (talk) 17:55, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

"Separating the Eurovans article was not discussed first."

I'm afraid it's not true that it was "not discussed first". It was in fact discussed here almost three weeks ago. I'm sorry you missed it. If you wish to join to the discussion, rather late than enver, please do it there, not here. --Cornellier (talk) 07:12, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

No worries. It is best to link the discussion in the edit summary. I have commented at Talk:Eurovans#Demerger. OSX (talk • contributions) 07:22, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Car stuff

Hello sir, great catch on the Falcon article about the Mustang & Mondeo generation. I've rechecked and at least on caradvice.com.au the Mondeo they quote is the "5th" generation! But you're correction to "4th" is correct... must be because it is known as the "Mk5"? Anyway, also wanted to raise the retail price issues, mainly in the Magna article. I note it was fully referenced but one of the moderators made it go (abusively in my mind). Unfortunately just removing the listed prices has you had to endure has resulted in some sentences not reading right... and I think I have done enough on that page to leave things as they are. UNLESS, you were not to feel compelled to disallow the reinclusion of prices (accidentally or otherwise lol). It is quite farcical that that moderator had an issue with it when (a) the prices were fully referenced; (b) the car is out of production so it can't be said that listing prices can result in people taking advantage; (c) I see prices included in other car articles - e.g. just saw the Ferrari F430 page. Where do you stand on this? P.S. looking to your FG X photography! Cheers CtrlXctrlV (talk) 12:25, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I have already made all the points I feel I need to make with respect to pricing. In short, I do not support the inclusion of pricing for each trim level, etc. See you around. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:39, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Escape

Just noticed you previously moved it yourself [1]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ummmyeahreally (talk • contribs) 04:54, 24 November 2014‎

Your point? Merged as part of major page overhaul as per Talk:Ford Escape#Mariner_Merger_proposal and User talk:OSX#Mazda Tribute Merger Thoughts. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:28, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
My point exactly, the merger proposal was about merging the Mercury Mariner into the Ford Escape, not merging the Ford Escape into the Ford Kuga. Also you conducted the merger after discussing it over a week period (June 19-26), this after you'd already been asked to wait for more rigorous discussion, not a drive by merger that nobody including myself ever got to see, and I'm sure 99% of the people who previously edited the page never saw the proposal either. [[[Talk:Subaru_Baja#Merger_attempts]]. However that merger has absolutely nothing to do with me, what you did do was move the Ford Escape into the Ford Kuga page without ever bothering to discuss it. That is you moved the Ford Escape a vehicle introduced in America by and American automobile company into a more recently introduced vehicle nameplate the Ford Kuga. In poor faith you did not merely move my edits from the Ford Escape into the Ford Kuga page rather removed them entirely. I'm not wasting my time with this rather going straight to admins for intervention since it's obvious you refuse to edit civilly are ultra aggressive in editing demeanor, insulting and have been called out numerous times for this, a quick review of your edit history reveals all this on the Subaru Baja and Suzuki SX4 pages and I'm sure many many more instances can be just as easily found.
Here's my notice for a future admin noticeboard as soon as I get a chance to document your previous edits, I'll do it shortly since I first need to figure out how more details on how Wikipedia operates: Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Ummmyeahreally (talk) 07:40, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Rearranged the subtitle to make more sense

Hi,

It's your best friend Nim

On the article Subaru Impreza I have been changing the subtitle of User:EurovisionNim's photo as then it would make some more sense. Could you please not change it because it is actually my image and I am using this IP because my account has been BLOCKED under my request for three months. I am editing under an IP address because the blocking user User:Graeme Bartlett and then the Wikibreak enforcer is preventing me to log onto the site.

Can you please forgive me if I have caused any hassles. But I like the subtitles to make sense because if a reader wants to know about the car then if it is subtitled properly then they can recognise the model of the car

60.224.249.55 (talk) 09:17, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok, no worries. OSX (talk • contributions) 10:53, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Reverting images

Hi OSX,

It's Nim again

Could you tell me the reason why you needed to revert User:EurovisionNim's images. The images were only illustrating the Australian version of cars available. If you want to revert an image you need to tell why you reverted the images. I am not upset in fact I have most of it removed. It can be slightly annoying when you don't put into the edit summary why you reverted it because then users will not know why it had been deleted.

I miss editing Wikipedia and now I have changed the way I edit articles. If you can could you tell me in brief why you reverted my car photos off Wikipedia without putting it in the edit summary. If you can tell me that would be excellent.

-60.224.249.55 (talk) 04:03, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

I can't recall removing any of EurovisionNim's images lately. You will have to provide examples for me. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:55, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
I was referring to 3 months ago in September. Since July you have reverted a numerous amount of photos from car articles e.g. Honda CR-V, Honda Civic, Peugeot 208 mainly some of the example of car articles - 60.224.249.55 (talk) 07:06, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Well since I have already discussed such edits with you back at the time I won't be doing so again. It is time to move on I think. Thanks, OSX (talk • contributions) 07:12, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
You should've put it in the edit summary why you removed my images, OSX. It implies to all users. - 60.224.249.55 (talk) 07:16, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I should probably do a lot of things—but I don't. When another user systematically inserts their images regardless of the image quality into articles indiscriminately, I will not be providing a running commentary for each case or individual article. You would have already been aware of the reasons because I engaged into substantial dialogue with you in respect to matter right here on my talk page. I told you that images were reverted because they did not represent the best available image, so the previous higher-quality images were reinstated as per the standards set by WP:CARS. Can we move on now please? I'd rather not waste anymore time on this months-old issue. Thank you! OSX (talk • contributions) 08:06, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Opel Corsa / Ford Sierra car size

Just thought I'd drop you a line - the IP editor who kept changing the size on the Opel Corsa article was also active in the same vein on the Ford Sierra article. That page has just had protection lifted, and straight away the IP changed the car size again with no discussion. It's not unreasonable to assume that they may appear back on the Corsa page as well at some point. Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:43, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I will keep an eye out. Thanks for the heads up. OSX (talk • contributions) 13:51, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Holden U platform

I found it here. This could lead to other internet based sources of GM-Holden platform information. (Regushee (talk) 15:57, 5 January 2015 (UTC))

The Original Barnstar

Thank you very much for the The Original Barnstar! I appreciate!--Arado (talk) 18:13, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

OSX II

Is User talk:OSX II linked to you in any way or just a similar name?  Stepho  talk  07:00, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

It is my alternative account for Wiki Commons for uploading images from Flickr, see Commons:User:OSX II. I didn't intend to edit here with that account but I did so by accident earlier. Apologies for the confusion. OSX (talk • contributions) 08:22, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
No probs, just making sure somebody wasn't trying to hijack your good name.  Stepho  talk  10:22, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Clarification

Oh you're a fucking idiot bastard right?! Many of Wikipedia users thinks that my editing is very very very constructive only you're who is too far from constructive comment to any other editing. Wikipedia is free to edit as we are here members and have sufficient knowledge to give information to world citizens am I right hot damn bastard?? James British   05:00, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

How charming... OSX (talk • contributions) 05:01, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

about undoing my edit on the automobile conventions page wikiproject.

I do agree that the citation needed tag should only be used in a article, but there is a reason why I placed that tag there. The reason was that, there is a discussion over whether the category page I created named Super cars, should be deleted or not because it does not comply with the classification rules on the wiki project conventions page. This convention that super cars are not a classification is a big problem. Since, on many pages of cars the info box has super car set for its classification, some even have a reference (although those cars may not be on the category page since I did not add all the supercars in the world on that category page yet. ). This also means that the Wikipedia article supercar should also get deleted if it is not a car classification. Also, the convention seems baseless, anyone could have just typed it in, it is like as if some one says that there should not be a category for electric or fuel engines because they are both engines and should be in a common category named engines. That would not make any sense, so please consider that decision that you made, if you do not want to undo your edit I do not mind, just tell me the reason why. Please respond soon. Thank you. Doorknob747 01:32, 9 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talk • contribs)

Hi. The convention was added by a consensus of Wikipedia editors, it was not just added by "anyone". If you wish to discuss the merits of this convention, the correct way to do so is via the convention talk page. Internal convention pages are not like articles. They are not necessarily based on third party sources, they are based on the consensus of editors. Therefore it is against the spirit of the "citation needed" template to use them in this manner. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:17, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Not to be confused with Studebaker Land Cruiser

What was the reason to remove Template:Distinguish from the Toyota Land Cruiser page? Salmin (talk) 04:53, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

You can add it back if you like, but I don't think there is any realistic grounds for confusion. They are completely different cars with different names. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:11, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
I believe it is useful because Land cruiser redirects to Toyota Land Cruiser. I don't think these two cruisers justify for a disambiguation page, but a distinguish template will help people trying to navigate to Studebaker Land Cruiser. Restored. Salmin (talk) 06:18, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Congradulations

Maserati MC12
This user has been awarded with the Big interest in car award.

Doorknob747 20:35, 19 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talk • contribs)

removable if you want. Doorknob747 20:59, 19 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talk • contribs)
Thanks for that! Cheers. OSX (talk • contributions) 04:13, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

My Holden Commodore edits

Hi, sorry, looks like I am unintentionally keeping you busy tonight undoing my work! I guess I only briefly contemplated the merit of crowding the main Commodore page with more photos or removing non-Chevy Omega photos... no issue with either of your reverts of course. On the Omega article though, why feature a VX Holden when there's a VTII Chevy available? Surely that's fit to feature in that article somewhere? CtrlXctrlV (talk) 12:24, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Normally we use a front 3/4 view image for the infobox. The Holden images are most relevant as they are the closest we have in spec to the Chevrolet Omega. The VX Luminas pictured at Chevrolet Omega previously were based on the Commodore-spec cars; Chevy Omegas are typically based on the Berlina or Calais.
Appearance-wise, the Omega is based on the VT I Calais (1998–1999), VT II Calais (1999–2001), VX I Calais without full-width tail-lamps (2001–2003), VY I Calais (2003–2005), VZ Berlina (2005–2007), VE Berlina (2007–2008), and VE II Berlina (2010–2011).
Finally, please stop uploading copyright violations to Wikimedia Commons. You know what I am talking about. I am working to have the images deleted, please DO NOT upload any further internet rip-offs because you will end up receiving a site-wide ban if you keep up this sort of behaviour up. I think you make very valuable contributions here and I would loathe seeing such events materialise. If you wish to use other peoples' images, you can do so legitimately by emailing the copyright holders and having them grant permission to release the respective images under a compatible license with Wikipedia / Wikimedia Commons (see Commons:OTRS). OSX (talk • contributions) 13:28, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
I think I need to stop by here more often for clarifications prior to major future edits! Cheers CtrlXctrlV (talk) 13:35, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
No worries :)
IMO, Chevrolet Omega ought to be converted into a WP:Set index article as per the pages within Category:Set indices on automobiles. What are your thoughts? OSX (talk • contributions) 13:48, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Normally I'm in favour of this kind of business, but I think that the Chevrolet Omega article is pretty well done as it stands. The trajectory would be a bit lost if it was made into a set index. Cheers,  Mr.choppers | ✎  04:15, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

@CtrlXctrlV, the images at Wiki Commons have now been deleted. I strongly suggest that you DO NOT upload anymore copyright violations in the future. I have not filed any formal complaint this time, but if it happens again you will leave me with no choice but to do this. You will probably end up with a block.

Should you wish to use an image found somewhere on the internet that is not licensed under a compatible Wiki license please ask me to assist you with the OTRS work required to get the appropriate permissions. Regards, OSX (talk • contributions) 07:28, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi OSX, a few pix were legitimate and I may upload them again but do you mean to say that regardless of their appropriate uploads, it will just be assumed that they are without permission? As an aside, I managed to get in touch with the Brazilian owner and photographer of a real Chevy Omega and I think I have the right proforma for him to complete/reply to. If I have time I will attempt to put it through the Wiki Commons procedure. Which would be good instead of having just Holden's there CtrlXctrlV (talk) 07:06, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
If you own the copyright to the photos there is not an issue. The problem is that you were passing of web images as your own. If you took the photo, you may upload it using your CtrlXctrlV account. You should not be using any other accounts (this is a big no-no). Regarding the Chevy Omega, if you can get OTRS permission, then that may also be upload. Cheers, OSX (talk • contributions) 04:23, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Just stopping by to tell you about this page [[2]]. Isn't that your handy VT photography on this manual's website? I guess it's just automated caching off wiki? User:CtrlXctrlV|CtrlXctrlV]] (talk) 05:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it appears that allcarmanuals.com is based on Wiki content (at least somewhat). However, in the case of my photos, as I release them into the public domain, anyone is free to use them as they wish without attribution. OSX (talk • contributions) 09:51, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

FTE pix

Hi there, looks like your photo renaming caused some pix to disappear, from here Tickford Vehicle Engineering and whatever other page used the same material. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 13:08, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

All appears to be OK on my end. Can you please try a different browser or clear your browser cache. This is probably what is causing the images not to display on your end. OSX (talk • contributions) 13:16, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Hmmm tried different browser knowing that's not it. There used to be 6 FTE's in total (including a front shotof the red one) but now it's only 4 in total. Bot cleared the 2 lost ones that weren't displaying. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 14:11, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
I see that the bot removed two images for some reason. I have placed two images back into the gallery. OSX (talk • contributions) 14:30, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Ford Ranger

Hello. I know the Ford Ranger in its first generation was basically a 1983-1989/1990 compact pickup truck. I also know that the Ford Ranger in its first generation and in production as early as January 1991. That's all I know where I see commercials off of youtube so I think the Ford Ranger ended production of the first generation in 1991 of early January. So basically the Rangers model years of the first generation was 1983 to 1989/1990. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.4.56.149 (talk) 00:38, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi, you will need a proper source for this claim (website, car magazine, book, etc). TV commercials cannot be used to source such things as they don't tend to mention production dates. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:12, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Possible attacks on the Perodua Myvi article

Better be prepared, as the Perodua Myvi article might get vandalized within the week due to a controversial car accident in Malaysia. - Areaseven (talk) 16:33, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I will keep an eye out. OSX (talk • contributions) 07:24, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Looks like I overestimated the reaction level of the accident, as there's been only one instance of vandalism on the article. - Areaseven (talk) 13:50, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Image replacement

Hi OSX, Hope you are well and thanks for the comment about my improvements of my photos,

I recently purchased a DSLR so that might've been the reason why they are at excellent quality.

Now down to business :D

I am looking back at the following articles: Holden Commodore (VE) and Chevrolet Omega

Now both of them have the following image: File:2007 Holden Berlina (VE MY07) sedan (2007-03-08).jpg which I think it is at low quality that I do not think is the best because it only shows the rear view of the car. Now have a look at the following image I photographed: File:2006-2009 Holden VE Berlina sedan (2015-05-29).JPG - I believe that image is better because it shows the front view and also shows the sides. I read WP:CARPIX and photographed the car accordingly. I waited for the sun to dim and when there was only a little bit of sun I took a photograph of the car.

Please OSX, could you find which is the better image and reply.

Thanks and keep up the good work EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 07:23, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I agree that your image is more suitable as per the guidelines at WP:CARPIX. Feel free to update the image as you see fit. Cheers, OSX (talk • contributions) 22:51, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposed rename of Ford Motor Company of Australia

Hi OSX. In this comment, did you mean "I'm not proposing a deletion"? Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 00:29, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. I have fixed the typo now. It now states: "I'm not proposing a deletion, just a rename." OSX (talk • contributions) 01:09, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Australian Cars

Pajero Van!
Damsel...

Hi OSX,

Well done on uploading some more Australian new car photos. Looks like you stole the job from me.

I will be heading to singapore and vietnam on a holiday so I will be photographing cars to add to illustrate the different cars available in Singapore and Vietnam. Please if possible can you reply on my talk page and tell me which cars I should be photographing. I will then take those photos of these cars and add them to Wikipedia. I will be taking my Canon DSLR and take photographs of those cars.

If you reply on my talkpage then what I can do is write down the cars and then when I head on holidays on December 22 - January 18 I will if possible photograph those cars and add them to Wikipedia.

Be aware that I will be picking up the pieces of the cars you forgot to photograph.

However if you wish to reply on your talkpage it is not a problem.

Anyway please keep up the great work and happy editing and photographing EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 08:34, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

(talkpage stalker) Nim, just take lots of photos! I am afraid that the cars in Singapore are not very interesting, most of them are very new and very boring - although one can see some strange Chinese cars around. I was there a few years ago and was very disappointed in the car spotting. In Vietnam, you will mostly see Toyota Corollas. Anything that is not a Corolla might be worth photographing. Here are two shots my mom took a few years back. Enjoy your trip.  Mr.choppers | ✎  15:51, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
@EurovisionNim. I am glad you like the new photos. I do not have any special requests but if you see something rare, do your best to get a photo. Also, when taking images of common cars, try to stick to models in original condition with correct wheels/hubcaps and free of damage/dirt/rain, etc. As your recent photos taken with the Canon DSLR are of very high quality, I look forward to seeing more photos from you. Good cameras can make a big difference. I upgraded to the Panasonic DMC-LX100 late last year and I'm very impressed with it. It is not a DSLR, but the image quality is very high for a point-and-shoot camera. Remember, don't spend too much time taking photos of cars when on holidays, make sure you enjoy yourself! Regards, OSX (talk • contributions) 12:25, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Toyota Aygo

You do realize that all of those trim lists are unsourced, right? And that they're UK specific, which isn't appropriate. Plus, the way they're written looks almost exactly like the brochure, which makes me think it is probably a copyvio. So why on earth are you trying to edit-war to keep in totally unsourced information that is UK specific and contains OR commentary to boot? Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 00:38, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Usually I have no issues whatsoever with your edits and they generally make sense - but these reverts really don't, and I'd like an explanation, please. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 10:29, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed this section last time as I had received another message from EurovisionNim after this and this one got "buried" above it by the time got to the talk page. I fundamentally disagree that trim levels are not notable, especially for cars sold in limited markets like the Aygo. Most of Wikipedia is unsourced, but removing unsourced content does more harm than good in my view—it destroys often good information. I agree that the way the trim levels for this car have been inserted into the article are less than ideal (should be in prose), but removing the content is detrimental. The best bet is to tag it as unsourced and try to convert to prose under a section for the UK market. Toyota Camry (XV40)#Market is an example of an article that does this appropriately in my view. To say that trim levels are not notable is like saying iPhone articles cannot mention the various colours and capacities on offer (e.g. white, 16 GB) which are akin to trim levels. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

commas

Hi OSX, I don't know about you, but I strongly dislike using a spacer (comma or space) whenever there is a four-digit number. That is, I would like to write 1998 and 12,043, but never 1,998. I found that the tag "comma=5" allows for just that. Now, since the WP style guide says that the spacer is optional for four-digit numerals, is there any way to make a bot add "|comma=5" to all conversion templates used on automotive pages? I reckon a conversation before such a large scale edit is carried out would be good, I just wanted to know a) if it is possible and b) if anyone agreed with me on this. Cheers,  Mr.choppers | ✎  16:36, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

@Mr.choppers, I recall that you have raised this before to no avail at WP:CARS. I personally use a comma, but I am not particularly fussed either way. The WP style guide ought to "pick a team" to eliminate disputes but they don't unfortunately. You should probably try again for a consensus at WP:CARS, although that page is very deserted these days. Is there any particular reason why the comma is bothersome to you? Not having a go at you, but I would like to know if there is some convention within the greater automotive sphere that I am unaware of. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
I just think it serves no purpose with four-digit numbers. With bigger numbers it is useful, as it makes it easier to grasp the magnitude of the number. There also happens to be a lot of four-digit codes (for metric users) in the automotive world. I figured the comma was a US thing, but maybe I ought to look again...  Mr.choppers | ✎  20:34, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

New page - CSV

Hi, I hope I haven't wasted my time but I just created a new page on Corsa Specialised Vehicles. I just realised its contents correctly states "Specialised" but the title reads "Special"! How can it be fixed? And can you independently review it so that it remains permanently published? Cheers CtrlXctrlV (talk) 16:25, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

I've since marked "Corsa Special Vehicles" for deletion and created Corsa Specialised Vehicles in lieu. Same content, corrected title. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 16:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
A day later - looks like there now needs to be "community" support for this CSV page to stay since 2 users (not from Australia) deemed it appropriate to delete everything, without discussion. Would you (and other automotive enthusiasts you know on here) support/edit it to make it stay? See Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2015_June_21. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 14:06, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I'm not familiar with the CSV brand myself, but I am not opposed to an article for these cars. I do not believe that you should be creating CSV sections at pages like Holden Commodore because CSV is not an official modifier of Holden cars like HSV is. WP:CARS has come to a resolution in the past that only offical variants should be covered in car articles. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:16, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I had not considered what you said above and it makes sense. I guess it's like Ford and Tickford/FPV to the exclusion of others like DJR. Well, sorry it looks like you end up being the one cleaning things up. I will remove anything else that you haven't attended to. Would it however be ok to list the CSV cars as "related"? I will leave them listed pending your further response. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 10:09, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm not sure what the guidelines are for related, I guess just leave them alone for now. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:24, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Chevy Cruze edit

I didn't even do anything wrong, i was jus saying its the de facto replacement. no reason to edit it out. if you want to edit it out, edit out the part where it says the buick verano replaced it in canada. --50.180.208.181 (talk) 21:22, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I removed reference to the Verano because 1) it was unsourced and 2) Buick is a near luxury brand, whereas Chevrolet is the entry-level brand. This model appears to be a supplementary, not a co-replacement for the Chevy Cobalt. OSX (talk • contributions) 23:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Brands at Talbot Tagora

Any reason to do this? © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 02:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Talbot Tagora is a model of car, not a brand, hence the WikiProject is out of scope for the topic. OSX (talk • contributions) 05:49, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
From Car model (bold mine): "An automobile model (or car model or model of car, and typically abbreviated to just "model") is a particular brand of vehicle sold under a marque by a manufacture", therefore, a model is a kind of brand, which makes Tagora within the project's scope as it is a brand of Talbot. If you don't consider car models as brands, you should discuss it at BRANDS, because there are thousand of cars listed under their WP scope. © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 02:40, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Images

Hi OSX,

A lot of your images have been placed however it is cluttering the articles. Some images are fine but is it alright if I use my Canon EOS 700D and photograph the cars in my Nedlands area and they turn up as high quality could I please replace them.

I would suggest having a few images removed but I do like your images with the Panasonic LX100. My aim is to photograph the Toyota Camry facelift but the front view so if you could kindly leave that out if possible. I live not far from a dealership and a mate and myself are catching up over the weekend so I will be photographing more cars. I will be aiming at the newer cars like the Mercedes, BMW, Ford and all the other cars I find.

One question - if my images are of same quality do you have a problem with me replacing your image.

Kind Regards --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 05:58, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Nim, please take as many photos as you want. It does not matter if we both photograph the same model of car, we will just pick the best image available for use in articles. Maybe that will be your image, maybe mine, or maybe a photo by someone else.
You should only replace a photo if you have a better photo to replace it with. Cheers, OSX (talk • contributions) 06:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
OSX, thanks. I would think that my mate would come. Bit of advice, don't pick out images unnecessarily. It will then cause clutter on the articles and would be difficult. I would suggest that you keep up the excellent work. I will resume photographing cars over the holidays then photoshop and use lightroom to brighten the image. Cheers --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 06:13, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Image replacement on article Ford Falcon (AU)

Hi OSX,

I hope you are well. I am focusing now on the Ford Falcon (AU) article. Your image File:2000-2001 Ford AUII Falcon Futura 01.jpg is only showing the rear view of the Futura whilst my image File:2000-2001 Ford AUII Falcon Futura Station Wagon 01.jpg is showing the front view of the car. Do you think my image is better than yours in showing the view of the Ford Falcon AUII Futura. Cheers --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 05:35, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I have added you image as it shows the front view. The rear is also important as it is the only image that shows the updated AU II tail lamps wagons. OSX (talk • contributions) 05:43, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Car Photography

Hi OSX, Again we chat!! I am a bit curious as I have been for a while. Is the car photography you do a hobby or is it a job. Regards --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 11:33, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

It's a hobby. Do you really think they pay people to do this? OSX (talk • contributions) 13:49, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Recalls

(Classic reply above haha). Just wondering, now that I discovered a/the official webpage for recalls by manufacturers, do you think it would be a waste of time or be frowned upon just adding it as an "external link" at the bottom of the articles? CtrlXctrlV (talk) 04:11, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I too found the question amusing. As for recalls, they need to be in scope of a general purpose encyclopedia. As Wikipedia is not a buyers guide, I would leave such links out. Highly notable recalls should be mentioned in the text though. OSX (talk • contributions) 21:15, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

US spec cars

I find them really boring, but it's nearly impossible to find the specs of the everyday imports from the seventies and eighties. I will probably buy a few more old buyer's guides to get some more info. Thanks for noticing!  Mr.choppers | ✎  14:51, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Japanese cars from the 1970s to 1980s are very much within my interests. So thank you for finding all that rare info! It is indeed difficult no matter where you live to find information about cars nobody cares about from pre-internet days. OSX (talk • contributions) 22:08, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Kia listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Kia. Since you had some involvement with the Kia redirect (the move discussion), you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. —Godsy(TALKCONT) 21:03, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class

Please do not edit Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.39.15.225 (talk) 15:06, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I will edit the page as it has been agreed by editors to not have GLE page for now as the content fits comfortably at Mercedes-Benz M-Class. OSX (talk • contributions) 15:11, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Holdens, HSV, Omega

Hi, firstly, I hope I won't have caused any hassles with the Chevrolet Omega re-gig of the photos - just pointing this out, out of courtesy. Secondly, apologies for the extra work I seemed to have caused you lately (e.g. had no idea you should not bold a link, but you learn every day... just unfortunate there's inconsistencies on here). Thirdly, the HSV cars and especially the VN GTS. I have seen on Holden forums that the NZ model was definitely an HSV. Why do you say otherwise? And I think in the VN article, some HSV special editions may have been deleted since my edits. The approach I took was to list as "HSV" any car by them, even if "Holden" badged (the most notorious being the VN Group A SS SV). Is this perhaps where we differ on the "LE"? If it is Holden badged but HSV built, it should be attributed to HSV like the SS above. Not being argumentative, just trying to understand as I just relied on (consistent) online resources to reconcile the HSV list, and you might have superior knowledge and resources. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 17:21, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

There no need to apologise for your edits. While it is true that your edits fill up my watchlist more than anyone else lately, this is a good thing. Thank you very much for all of the many improvements made to Australian car pages this year.
If I am wrong on the NZ specification VN GTS V6, I apologise. However, my research (again, using less-than-ideal Holden forums of various persuasions) suggests that it was badged "Commodore" and featured the Holden logo up front. I agree that the build is likely to have been contracted out to HSV, but does that really make it an HSV? The Vauxhall VXR8 is also built by HSV, but I have yet to see that model referred to as "HSV VRX8". Likewise, the Holden Apollo (Camry) was built by Toyota but it is not "Toyota Apollo". Manufacturer and brand are quite distinct. I am of the belief that the page is best served by the differentiation of fully-fledged HSV models (Clubsport, Maloo, et cetera) and those models contracted out to HSV by Holden and then sold as "Holden" through Holden (not HSV) dealerships. Of course, a mention of this manufacturing anomaly is warranted with the discussion of these cars.
I know I have been haphazard in my editing approach at Holden Commodore (VN) by listing all the vehicles built by HSV (i.e. including DMG 90, LE, LS, et cetera) under the HSV section, but this was done more out of convenience because I stumbled upon the excellent list on a forum and did not have time to properly separate out the list. I did the same for VP as well. OSX (talk • contributions) 13:59, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Photoshopping rims to cars

Hi OSX,

Long time since we haven't had a chat.

I am just curious to find out how you manage to get the cars that have had damage back to factory specifications on Photoshop.

For example some files below:

Can you please give me instructions and uploading on Wikimedia Commons, would that be against the rules for overwriting files, please can you tell me, thanks --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 10:06, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

HI, I cannot explain how I do it really. These are accumulated self-taught skills in Adobe Photoshop. You can only learn these skills by doing them trial and error or by following online how-to guides for specific editing tasks. Changing the wheel trims to the correct form is pretty easy, I just find a different file with the correct wheels and paste the wheel over the top of the incorrect wheel. Then levels and showing, etc, then need to be adjusted so it looks natural. Sometimes, the result looks faked (as with the two images above), other times I have better luck (e.g. File:1992 Holden Statesman (VQ II) sedan (2015-07-09) 01.jpg). It is hard to correct when you are dealing with different wheel sizes. Stretching a 15-inch hubcap over an 18-inch alloy wheel always looks odd. OSX (talk • contributions) 23:52, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Also, if you are restoring the car to factory specifications I would personally overwrite the original file. The non-stock photo is usually not all that useful when judged to WP:CARPIX standards. OSX (talk • contributions) 00:06, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Kind of answered my question, however would it be a violation on COM:OVERWRITE --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 00:40, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
No idea. OSX (talk • contributions) 00:52, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

International Intellectual Property Information

I have come across rather unusual information regarding development histories of various vehicles manufactured during late 20th century and 2000s. Japanese patents have now given a clearer idea of some past models development timelines. This website has full patent filings of various Japanese and European brands, including some with actual approval dates. Apparently it takes a very long time between design freeze and actual launch at Toyota, despite how they "officially" pretend otherwise for marketing purposes. The E120 Corolla Altis/U.S. Corolla was already on by July 22, 1999 and designed many months earlier, despite being launched in late 2001/March 2002.

E110 Corolla was a 1992 design effort, even though some markets had barely received the E100 Corolla that autumn. I work in this area at Jaguar Land Rover (mostly design/production feasibility engineering), so this stuff interests me. The XV20 Camry looked like this in January-February 1994. The Camry Solara design was finished about 2.5 - 3 years before going on sale in August 1998, as shown by this January 18, 1996 patent. For patents sometimes a CGI or CAD file is used or an actual photo of a clay model or master model. In cases of the former, it is almost immediate following design programme approval. The latter or with a running prototype, usually is some significant time afterward (months to 1 year+).----Carmaker1 (talk) 06:34, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for this information, very interesting! I have been reading your recent edits regarding Toyotas to see what you have uncovered. Please note that many of the links you provide do not work as they presumably require a user login. OSX (talk • contributions) 10:49, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
I am so sorry about that, as their patent database does not seem to directly link it appears. Navigating it, I just discovered this issue. I may have to redo many of them, to the main page it seems. Searching for patents requires entering "1208" in "Locarno classification" and the time period of interest (i.e. 20150101:20151231). Sometimes this omits other designs in the database, as the Locarno may not be a complete representation. I have also found many things in the German Patent Database (DPMA), including December 1988 patents for the Honda NSX (later launched in 1990).
I am glad the info is somewhat useful, if even merely trivia in some cases. I will try to be a bit more organised in compiling new information, so as not to detract from the quality of existing articles that so many of us work hard on. Thank you for fixing that Camry Solara page and many more.--Carmaker1 (talk) 20:28, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Out of Business

Hi OSX,

I went recently on a school camp and as a mate passed a soccer ball to play a game, I dropped my compact camera and is unable to be used. I will not be very active in photographing cars in Australia. I will be going to Vietnam and Singapore to take the photographs of cars.

I am going to be purchasing a new camera, an advanced compact, i.e. Nikon Coolpix S7000 or Panasonic Lumix TZ 70. The camera is too expensive to repair and I only have a DSLR however this is used mainly for serious photography.

I will do my best to get back to the project but i have to get a new one to resume photographing cars in Australia. My primary focus will be on Vietnamese and Singapore cars. Kind regards, --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 08:53, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Also to add I will be photographing cars only on my DSLR, if I have it with me and if available :) --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 09:00, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Nim, I am sorry to hear about the damage. Hopefully you can get a new compact camera sometime soon as you are the only West Australian car photographer on Wikimedia. OSX (talk • contributions) 20:24, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi OSX,

Thank you for photographing more cars. I am struggling to find some old cars in my neighbourhood. I am in Nedlands and it is difficult to find those old timers. I am still photographing cars, but not as often as I did before with my compact camera, as I do not use my iPhone as it takes low quality shots. I was lucky to find a Series II Hyundai i30 on Verdun Street as me and my friend were walking around as he has never seen Nedlands.

I am still taking photos of cars with my DSLR and by December should be able to acquire an advanced compact as the camera was not fixable. Have a nice day --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 01:59, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate your interest in my photos as a lot of effort goes into doing this (more so in the identification and uploading as opposed to taking the actual photographs). I am not very familiar with the geography of Perth, but I know that in Sydney and Melbourne certain areas tend to be better than others for spotting older mainstream cars (i.e. the crap most people are not interested in). My favourite areas to photograph old timers are in the inner-city pockets where the trendy hipsters live (a few years ago it became suddenly cool to drive a Datsun 180B or Volvo 240) and the highly ethnic suburbs. Wealthier areas tend to be good for older high-end cars or just cars in general that are in excellent condition. The most boring cars tend to be found in boring, white, middle-class suburbia. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:01, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
By the way, if you want one of the best compact cameras I would take a look at the Sony RX100 IV. I personally use the Panasonic Lumix LX100, which is technically better than the RX but is a bit too bulky at times. The Sony RX100 IV is actually pocketable and still maintains excellent image quality not far behind the Panasonic. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:04, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Like me, I live in Nedlands, which is an affluent suburb in Perth, Western Australia. I always seek the opportunity to grab old timers but it never becomes successful. I am actually a Nikon user. Do you recommend a specific Nikon camera model as I am not paying $1 000 for a compact camera. I am looking at a Nikon Coolpix S7000 or S9900, they are more affordable for my budget as I am not paying 1 grand for a compact when I already have a DSLR. --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 06:12, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
I can't recommend any of the more basic compacts as I don't research them. You did say that you were looking to buy an "advanced compact", so I interpreted that as high-end. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks! Though I haven't been completely gone, I just have been editing from IPs instead of my account. Karrmann (talk) 06:57, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Your talk TOC

How did you make change the font on your table of contents of this page? Catmando999 Check out his talk page! 20:49, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Like this: [3]. OSX (talk • contributions) 21:56, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks M8. Catmando999 Check out his talk page! 23:12, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Two images on Ford Mondeo

Hi OSX,

User:Davey2010, thinks that File:2015 Ford Mondeo 1.6 Zetec Econetic TDCi Estate (16922091829).jpg is better than File:2015 Ford Mondeo (MD) Ambiente station wagon (2015-11-14) 01.jpg. I do believe that my image is better, albeit its brightness. I do believe mine is better because it is better quality and it does not have the other cars surrounding it. Could you have a look and judge through which of the images are better because I do believe mine is the best and I do not want to go into an edit war and end up blocked.

Please can you help and figure out which one is the best, Thanks --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 01:16, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

I tend to agree with Davey2010. Your photo has the unfortunate sunlight issues, which make the paint tones less even (some parts are washed out), and your image also has more reflections on the body work. I do believe your image is better on a technical basis (i.e. sharper) and has a slightly better background. However, overall, I think the UK-spec image has a slight edge. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:28, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
I took this on a sunny day with my camera, so do you believe that the UK image should remain on the top infobox, or should I replace it with the Australian image --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 01:30, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
As I said, the UK image is the better one in my view. So I would be using that one. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:38, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the pings - As I said on my talkpage there's pros and cons with both to be honest but at the moment I'd still say the UK one's better, I did wonder if mucking around with the contrast could help but I'm not entirely sure if it'd work or even look right so probably a good idea not too, (BTW I completely forgot to say anything this afternooon but I apologize OSX for reverting you earlier - Not entirely sure what even happened but sorry anyway), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 02:14, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Rear view of Ford Mondeo

Hi OSX,

About Overlaet's image of the Ford Mondeo rear view, Davey2010 reverted it. I do believe my image File:2015 Ford Mondeo (MD) Ambiente station wagon (2015-11-14) 02.jpg is better than his image, because of there are no heavy distracting backgrounds. I would like you to decide which is the better one. Thanks --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 09:53, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, in this case I prefer your photo. OSX (talk • contributions) 11:36, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Infobox spacing

Hi OSX, Re this edit[4] - Infobox spacing is the norm here and to be honest I assumed it looked okay on them all ?, I use Chrome and everything's spaced fine, Then again I guess if you're using a laptop with a lower screen resolution then it perhaps does look weird, Anyway thanks, –Davey2010Talk 02:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

In my experience, very few automobile articles use such spacing for the infobox to align each field. Maybe this is different for other area. My screen resolution is high enough at 2560-by-1600 pixels, but this may be a Mac/Windows issue (I use Mac). All Macs that I have used do not use monospaced fonts for text input except in Firefox. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:33, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
I think so far I've been the only to change them all, Bloody hell that's higher than mine! (Mines 1366×768), Ah well I use Windows so I guess it's a Mac issue (I've never used Mac but they look pretty cool! :)), Well seeing as you're having issues I won't revert :), Anyway thanks and Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 15:15, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! OSX (talk • contributions) 15:17, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Flickr

Hi OSX,

I understand you're a prolific Flickr user, uploading plenty of pictures of cars. However, I'm having great difficulties when it comes to searching through the "Melbourne" tag for free images of Melbourne, its surroundings, beaches, architecture etc. – and instead of quickly finding said images, I'm constantly finding a barrage of images of cars. Would you be able to, if possible, cease tagging said uploads of yours under the "Melbourne" tag, as it is proving to be quite frustrating navigating through the tag to find images for Wikipedia.

A fellow Melburnian, —MelbourneStar☆talk 08:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi MelbourneStar, I include all my car photos taken in the Melbourne area under the aptly titled "Melbourne" album. I would prefer to keep doing this. However, I know of an easy workaround for you. Rather than just typing in "Melbourne" into the Flickr search field, type "Melbourne -car". By the same token, if you also don't want pictures tagged with "zoo" for example, type "Melbourne -car -zoo". Let me know how you go. OSX (talk • contributions) 08:43, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Oh, my, OSX: You're an absolute gem! it works perfectly. Thank you very much for this, and my apologies for any troubles caused. Best, —MelbourneStar☆talk 09:14, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Changes

Please stop reverting changes I made, except it really needs to change. Juan20102006 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:08, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

I am reverting changes that make articles worse off. Sorry. OSX (talk • contributions) 22:12, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Suzuki XL7

Hi, remember the page Suzuki XL-7? Well,the second generation was really called "XL7". That´s why I created a page called Suzuki XL7 that did not redirect. And I also used it to put it for main article in the page Suzuki XL-7 About Holden Captiva pages: I created those pages. Please stop changing redirects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juan20102006 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

XL-7 and XL7 are almost the same name. It goes against general precedence to create separate articles for such a minor change in name. It is quite easy to keep it in one page and make a note stating the name changed.
As for the Holden Captiva 5 and Holden Captiva 7 redirects, these should point to the relevant sections. The Chevrolet information is irrelevant for those looking for information about the Holdens, hence the section redirects. OSX (talk • contributions) 22:29, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Before, there was a page called Suzuki XL7 and Suzuki XL-7 said "Redirect to Suzuki XL7" Why did you change it? Note: In the Suzuki XL7 page said "styled before 2006 as XL-7" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juan20102006 (talk • contribs) 22:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
The original XL-7 was sold internationally in much higher numbers than the second generation sold in the Americas, see WP:Common name. OSX (talk • contributions) 23:18, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

jeremyg3030 images, please upload

Hi OSX,

Could you please upload some more images from jeremyg3030. I am struggling to find photos of cars necessary for the article. He has some new images of the cars that I can use to replace the poor quality images. I cannot seem to activate my Flickr to Commons, as it requires a lot of work and I am unsure how to activate it.

Could you please do me a favour and upload all the car images from jeremyg3030 so I can use it on the articles, to replace the low quality images, Thanks, and have a nice day --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 09:00, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

I will upload soon, but it is time consuming... just be patient. Good night. OSX (talk • contributions) 12:45, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
EurovisionNim: I am in the process of uploading his images now, are you able to please help with the categorisation? They are all in Commons:Category:Photographs uploaded by OSX — sort. If you want to help out, please replace this temporary category with the correct one(s). Thanks! OSX (talk • contributions) 11:55, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

December 2015

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Suzuki Cultus. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit-warring states:

  1. Edit-warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
  2. Do not edit-war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. 174.23.115.41 (talk) 08:26, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

From WP:MODELYEARS: "Unless the article is about an automobile produced by a North American company primarily for North American consumption ... articles should prioritize calendar years over model years." Which means OSX is correct and the anon-IP is going against agreed WP guidelines by trying to enforce a US-centric view on an international article.  Stepho  talk  08:38, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
From WP:EDIT WARRING and item #2 right in the warning: "An editor who repeatedly restores his or her preferred version is edit-warring regardless of whether their edits were justifiable: 'But my edits were right, so it wasn't edit-warring' is no defense," which means it doesn't matter how correct OSX is; he was still edit-warring. 174.23.115.41 (talk) 09:50, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
It is a bit rich don't you think to place these warnings on my talk page when you have been reverting yourself? I suggest you invest in a mirror, it might do you some good. As I have stated and has been reiterated by Stepho, WP:MODELYEARS trumps whatever you like/feel/think, etc. If you have an issue with the convention, then by all means go to WP:CARS to discuss its amendment. But please do not go around violating a long-standing community consensus by imposing your own US-centric views on the rest of the world. This is hardly appropriate for an internationally focused encyclopaedia that strives for a neutral point of view.
Regarding your recent edits such as this and this, we do not clog up the section titles with needless detail. The appropriate way to document what you are doing is in the prose and in the infobox. For the latter, use both the "production" and "model_years" fields to convey this data. For international (from the USA) cars, one should assume calendar years (although this is more of an ideal given the number of US editors that insist that we all must follow model years and liberally edit pages accordingly). Likewise, for US cars, model years are more appropriate for the section titles. It seems non-US editors are a more respectful and do not go around insisting on the use of calendar years for these pages. OSX (talk • contributions) 11:02, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Being specific about model year vs. calendar is NOT being "US-centric," and it is NOT "breaking WP:MODELYEARS. As for edit-warring, the rule already states that it doesn't matter which edit trumps the other. But my new reversions are on different articles. This warning to you was about your few from the same article right close together. 174.23.115.41 (talk) 11:20, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
I already changed the years back. Using the words I used was not "-centric." 174.23.115.41 (talk) 11:20, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
I never said "being specific about model year vs. calendar is NOT being "US-centric". I was referring to your first wave of edits in my first paragraph. My second paragraph pertained to your more recent edits such as this and this. My final point about US editors changing calendar years on non-US cars to model years was just me venting a frustration at this never-ending practice. If you have a new proposal for a new way of doing things, please make your case at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles. Conventions change all the time, and WP:MODELYEARS, like any other policy is not set in stone. OSX (talk • contributions) 11:48, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Your quote of me in that context didn't even make sense. Try unquoting and removing the "NOT" from there, and then continuing the quotation. And yes, you did imply that my addition of the words "produced from" and "model year" were "US-centric" because you wrote "But please do not go around violating a long-standing community consensus by imposing your own US-centric views on the rest of the world" only after the dates were changed back at Cultus and I had added the words instead. 174.23.115.41 (talk) 12:55, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Reversion has failed, Discussion is obviously failing. Time for an administrator to remove this troll.  Stepho  talk  11:40, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

I agree in principle. But, I would give the IP editor one more chance as they did self revert for their final edit here. OSX (talk • contributions) 11:48, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
You're the troll, stepho, just for falsely calling me one. It's not "trolling" to try to make something on a set of pages more specific. And actually, discussion has not failed. I didn't add those back since the discussion (except only temporarily while reverting my other edits back into place, since osx was too lazy to be properly selective). 174.23.115.41 (talk) 12:55, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi OSX,

Thanks for uploading more files. I have never been more appreciated for someone to take the role.

I am going to be heading to Vietnam next week. I am purchasing a Nikon Coolpix S9600, with my grandmother. I have done all the listing of cars in Vietnam that I need for the articles. I would be using a DSLR and Compact to take photos of the cars that are in Vietnam and Singapore which could be of heavy use for the articles as no-one wants to take a photo of cars in Vietnam. The reason I am doing cars in Western Australia is that I would take care of the cars, however in WA it is very sunny and therefore can cause the images to become washed out. In Victoria normally the images are better quality as the weather is a lot of the time cloudy.

I would have to give up the congrats to you mate, however I will be carefully looking for cars in original condition as I did some research and found that cars in Asia are customised which can hinder the quality.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :) --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 02:23, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words Nim :)
I look forward to seeing you photos from Singapore and Vietnam. My experience with Southeast Asian countries is also that the cars are often modified and not in original condition. The variety of cars on the road there (I'm speaking mainly of Thailand and Indonesia) seems to be quite low—you see the same 20 cars over and over again ad infinitum. In the tourist areas, almost all of the cars seem to be new as well. The standard of cars in Singapore is much better though, but I am unsure of Vietnam.
Regarding the sun, yes, I try to avoid it as well as it tends to negatively affect photos of cars. I guess that is one benefit to the otherwise crappy weather here.
Enjoy your holiday! I'm sure you will have a lovely time. OSX (talk • contributions) 02:46, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
@OSX:I have spoken to two mates at school and asked them what cars I should be taking photos of. I have looked at their photos and they haven't done anything :). So I decided it would be a good opportunity to take a break from taking photos of cars in Australia until January, I am also doing a school project so I will be taking photos of the facelift Toyota Camry and Rav4. Could you leave these cars out so I can take a photo of them and use it for Wikipedia. I would kindly appreciate it, I researched cars on the internet. My dad said that I can just splash images from the internet to the Wikipedia articles but I said to him that I like to use my own images. Therefore I am taking photos of cars there. I was at a school social and I danced off against other boys and girls and aced the dance floor by breakdancing. :) --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 02:52, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Bought a new camera

Hi OSX,

I purchased a new camera yesterday. The model is a Nikon Coolpix S7000. I am back in action with the car photography. I also am catching up with a girl that I really like over the holidays so I hope to take some photos of cars when she and I go for a walk together. She told me that she wants me to find some cars around where she lives as she said that Mosman Park, Western Australia is a good hotspot as well as Cottesloe because that is where most of the well maintained cars are. I have done a lot of work looking for cars around my suburbs. I hope to find some cars that is needed for the article on Wikipedia around WA.

I would like to wish you the best of the festive season :) --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 02:09, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Great news, thanks for the update. Have a great Christmas and enjoy your holiday in Vietnam. OSX (talk • contributions) 05:31, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
You can place a merry christmas message on my talkpage --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 06:38, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas!!
Hello, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia!

   –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 17:14, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Hi OSX,

I would like to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas. Hope for the best in the new year

Please place one on my talkpage please, if you wish. :) --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 22:48, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) LOL he clearly wishes not too otherwise he would've left one much sooner! (Sorry OSX but I just had to reply as I couldn't stop laughing at this! ). –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 23:00, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year, OSX!

Happy New Year!

OSX,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 11:13, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
Thanks again, happy new year to you too! OSX (talk • contributions) 19:34, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
You're welcome and thank you :), Please place one on my talkpage please, if you wish , Sorry I'll FO now , Have a great New Year, –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 19:52, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Australian large car sales graph

I have created a wiki markup version of File:Australian large car sales 1991 onwards.png using Template:Line chart. Looking to see if others are happy to switch from the image to the wiki markup, which will be placed in its own template. Thanks. – Kytabu 00:41, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Replied at File talk:Australian large car sales 1991 onwards.png. OSX (talk • contributions) 12:36, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Generation links

Since we have articles with titles such as Toyota Corolla (E80), what do you think of having redirect pages such as Lexus GX (J120) that links to Lexus GX#J120? The idea is that we can just link to Lexus GX (J120) regardless of whether it is an individual page or a link to a section within another page. It also means that we can start an article with one page covering all models, then later split it up into individual generations without breaking links. Of course this requires us to build up a lot of redirection pages for existing articles but I can do that.  Stepho  talk  01:45, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm not against the redirects such being created, but I prefer to link to the correct sections directly (i.e. Lexus GX#J120). For most models, there is little prospect of generational pages ever being created, so it seems idealistic to link to redirects that will always remain as such. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:49, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Sakes figures by Markskrillex0

I reverted his edit to Lexus GX mostly to prod him into providing references himself. He added figures to a number of Toyota articles without references and so far has ignored my request to add references. Hopefully we can train him to do it right instead of just being a fly by nighter that relies on others to clean up after him.  Stepho  talk  01:37, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

I hope so as well. OSX (talk • contributions) 20:55, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Toyota Celica

Why did you insult me about the pics of the 5th generation Celica? Do you think the pic of your red SX (ST184) with black car in the background is better? Because it's an Aussie spec? Don't you realize that for the pre-facelift, there is a light blue US-spec 1.6 ST (AT180), and the higher model grade is GT-Four? I admit that the pic of red JDM GT-Four A that I took is not so good to be displayed, since it's a pre-facelift but has facelift hood emblem. The pic of my grey metallic All-Trac is a much better one, and currently the black Carlos Sainz model from Italy is the only available pic of the top of the line model which should represents the whole 5th generation (put in the info box). Celica21gtfour 2:00, 8 January 2016

I'm not all that concerned if you were insulted by my statement that your image was lower quality than the existing one at Toyota Celica. On the scale of offence, it surely ranks fairly low.
Given your inability to see for yourself how images can vary in quality, I will seek to make it as clear as I can:
  • File:Toyota Celica ST185RC.jpg — this image is not the appropriate 3/4 view front image and is covered in rain drops. It is also a rare limited edition car, not the best representative model for the infobox.
  • File:Toyota Celica GT4 ST205.JPG — this image is too dark, full of reflections. It is also a rare limited edition car, not the best representative model for the infobox.
OSX (talk • contributions) 01:27, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
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