User talk:Oldfriend

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World Youth Organisation article[edit]

Hello, I’ve just read this article. Thanks for writing it but I'm a bit concerned that this organisation might not be notable enough to qualify for a Wikipedia article. That link goes to a guide, but basically any coverage of a organisation on here is supposed to be based on being covered in reliable sources, like newspapers, in the form of full articles and not just things like business listings.

Are there any extra citations you can add about this organisation showing it's notable? I'm concerned since the article may get deleted otherwise. If so just edit the article and add citations using the cite tool. If you've got any questions just reply below this and I'll try to get back to you. Blythwood (talk) 14:36, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I understand. What about these links?

http://studentblogs.warwick.ac.uk/politics/entry/world_youth_organization_/

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/shaniqua-benjamin/attending-the-world-youth_b_9009652.html

http://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/education/haverings_teen_launch_global_youth_charity_1_4379040

http://youngpeopleinsight.com/2016/01/15/official-launch-of-the-world-youth-organization/

http://www.bowerpark.havering.sch.uk/news/world-youth-organisation-launch.aspx

Oldfriend (talk) 15:28, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

February 2016[edit]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Draft:World Youth Organization into another page. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. The attribution has been provided for this situation, but if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, please provide attribution for that duplication. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 16:25, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Thank you for your attention. Actually I just renamed one article and placed new one with the previous name. In other words I have renamed article A with the name B and then created article with the name A. Nothing was copied. The reason of renaming we are discussing currently with Blythwood Oldfriend (talk) 16:43, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oldfriend, the copying is evident in the history. The new article was created as a word-for-word copypaste (including grammatical error) from the Draft article as seen in your edit here. Also, I am unable to find any conversation with User:Blythwood in which you discuss the renaming of the article. The only discussion I see is the one above and that only concerns the problem of notability. Have you edited Wikipedia under any other account names? — CactusWriter ^(talk) 17:12, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In the beginning there was an article "World Youth Organization" about Indian foundation which I have renamed to "World Youth Organization (India)". After that automatically everything from "World Youth Organization" was redirected to "World Youth Organization (India)". So on the redirection page I created new article about UK organization which is really WORLD one to remove redirection (I was suggested this in the IRC channel - can provide logs and screens). Probably there were some intermediate editions since I didn't know how to make renaming properly. So all the copies are mine and probably you are right I wasn't logged in on some stages (but this can be checked by IP I think - it should be the same).

As for the discussing just visit this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oldfriend

Also may I ask if there any way to set up name of the page and prevent it's renaming? Oldfriend (talk) 19:26, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oldfriend, I have now rewritten World Youth Organization as a disambiguation page to prevent further disruption by editors trying promote one page or the other. More importantly, I just warned you about copy-pasting text written by other editors -- yet you did the exact same thing again [1]. Please note as explained: cut-and-paste moves are a violation of Wikipedia copyright policy. Consider this as a final warning and that further persistence may result in being blocked from editing. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 21:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I understand, but please answer what should I do to save for my article name "World Youth Organization"?

Also there are already duplicated pages World Youth Organization (WYO) and World Youth Organization (India). Is it allowed? Oldfriend (talk) 21:43, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will say the same thing as I explained to the other editors. If there are two organizations with the same name, then the article titles should be distinguished through our rules of WP:DISAMBIGUATION. That is what has been done now. Any disagreement about whether or not one article is a primary topic should be discussed among the editors on the article talk page. Discussion among the parties should always be the first, second and third courses of action. And, no, duplicate articles are not permitted but I do not see any currently. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 23:19, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

August 2021[edit]

Hello, I'm Tymon.r. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Jordan Laws—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Tymon.r Do you have any questions? 22:39, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Tymon.r, may I ask if you are fine and what experiments you are talking about? If you are seriously now please let me know the real reason for the reverting.Oldfriend (talk) 22:47, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Oldfriend: Sure. In your edit [2], you may have added "a fact from life", but at the same time pretty much blanked and damaged the article removing, among others, infobox, categories, references, authority control, and the entire section about subject's discography and videography. Best, Tymon.r Do you have any questions? 22:50, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for the explanation, however, I saw the message about the session timing out with the offer to try again. Well, I tried again, but really didn't notice all these damages. If they were really sure it's completely my flat. May I ask you about the change itself? Can it be implemented? Oldfriend (talk) 22:55, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I have implemented the change again and seems now there are should NOT be any damages, thank you for your help.Oldfriend (talk) 23:17, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]