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The Last of Us Part I is the second redo from the original PS3 game after GTA V?
I know that TLOU Part I is the second redo from the original PS3 game, after GTA V, but there is too many citations around me. CastJared (talk) 03:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- @CastJared: I'm not sure what you mean by "there is too many citations around me", but the information is incorrect (and irrelevant) anyway. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 03:51, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
The Last of Us Viewership vs. Euphoria
Hi, I know that Forbes reported that Euphoria fell apart of viewership because of The Last of Us. CastJared (talk) 05:53, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- @CastJared: Not sure what you mean by "it fell Euphoria apart". In any case, there's currently no notable reason to mention Euphoria on The Last of Us—X got more views than Y isn't really significant unless Y held some kind of record, which doesn't appear to be the case here. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 05:59, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Ratna's actual name
Ibu is Indonesian for Miss as in calling her Miss Ratna. Someone just confirmed it on The Last of Us' Wiki site. Plus, Ratna is her first name. Cosmic2992 (talk) 16:23, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Cosmic2992: I'm aware; that's why the article doesn't use the word "Ibu" anywhere. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 16:27, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
They probably should have its own article. 2001:4455:688:5F00:A0BA:2A16:A4A9:1209 (talk) 23:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
DYK for When You're Lost in the Darkness
On 25 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article When You're Lost in the Darkness, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that three blocks near Stampede Park were transformed into a destroyed city for the first episode of The Last of Us? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/When You're Lost in the Darkness. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, When You're Lost in the Darkness), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
BorgQueen (talk) 00:03, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Doctor Who (season 2)
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Your GA nomination of Doctor Who (season 2)
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Your GA nomination of Doctor Who (season 2)
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The Last of Us series
Hey, there. Just wanted to drop by and thank you for you exemplary work on the Last of Us series articles. After watching each episode, I learn so much about the making of the show from these articles, and I look forward to keep doing so for the rest of the season! :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:00, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
missing song in ep 3
if you turn on the close captioning for the scene where joel and ellie enter bill's basement, it'll reveal the song playing on the computer which is "chains of love". also, do not hesitate to look at tunefind that has all the songs for each ep. Cosmic2992 (talk) 05:56, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Cosmic2992: I'm aware of the song and the scene in which it plays, but I've seen no evidence that it is notable for inclusion; the infobox parameter is not meant to be an exhaustive list of every piece of music. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 05:58, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- so basically the page wants popular songs added to the list? Cosmic2992 (talk) 06:01, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Cosmic2992: Not necessarily "popular" songs, just notable ones that play during key scenes. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 06:02, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- whoever came up with that decision, needs a reality check and that user should've accepted every song. Cosmic2992 (talk) 06:15, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- I disagree; Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. If we were to list every song, we'd have infoboxes bursting at the seams with 10+ tracks, which isn't really helpful to anyone. Limiting the list to notable songs is more beneficial to the reader; if they want a list of every song, they can go to Tunefind instead. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 06:22, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- whoever came up with that decision, needs a reality check and that user should've accepted every song. Cosmic2992 (talk) 06:15, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Cosmic2992: Not necessarily "popular" songs, just notable ones that play during key scenes. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 06:02, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- so basically the page wants popular songs added to the list? Cosmic2992 (talk) 06:01, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Revert
Thanks for this. I didn't even know I reverted until you reverted me. I need to stop using the desktop view on mobile. :\ Mike Allen 14:18, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Infected (The Last of Us)
On 13 February 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Infected (The Last of Us), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the infected creatures in the second episode of The Last of Us were created using prosthetics instead of visual effects? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Infected (The Last of Us). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Infected (The Last of Us)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Bully (video game) Article
on the Bully article I am simply adding more information. is there a word limit on an article, I have learned that there is no specific word limit for any wikipedia article. Andro Keshelashvili (talk) 03:20, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Andro Keshelashvili: Per WP:VG/PLOT, plot summaries should be limited to 700 words or fewer. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 03:21, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Please Hold to My Hand
On 20 February 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Please Hold to My Hand, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that for the fourth episode of The Last of Us, Melanie Lynskey was told her character's brother was "basically Jesus"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Please Hold to My Hand. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Please Hold to My Hand), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Valereee (talk) 00:02, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi Rhain why did you revert my edits
All I did was add a link and credit a woman who worked on the game. why would you not want it to be possible for someone to click on her name as she is credited on her very own wiki as the writer and creator of said games Manicpickmenightmaregirl (talk) 16:07, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Manicpickmenightmaregirl: Hennig is already linked in the infobox, in "Director(s)". – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 16:09, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- you ignored my question, why would you not want it to be possible for her to be linked wherever her name appears Manicpickmenightmaregirl (talk) 16:11, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Manicpickmenightmaregirl: Links should only appear once per MOS:DL. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 16:13, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- you ignored my question, why would you not want it to be possible for her to be linked wherever her name appears Manicpickmenightmaregirl (talk) 16:11, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Amy Hennig is literally the head of design but not listed on the page whatsoever
she was leader of design and art in blood omen and somehow her name isn't in the box at all. that's not right and needs to be changed. Manicpickmenightmaregirl (talk) 16:15, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Manicpickmenightmaregirl: Per {{Infobox video game}}, the parameter is for up to three lead designers. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 16:20, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
considering she was the manager of them she was the most crucial one to list so either she should replace one or the parameters should be changed to 4. She should be in that box as the HEAD of DESIGN to suggest otherwise would be laughable Manicpickmenightmaregirl (talk) 16:32, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Video game aggregators
Hi Rhain, I recall you made a proposal about OpenCritic in 2021. Perhaps my writing about the status of GameRankings is of interest to you (I'm late and already archived). Changing VG MOS is a horrific task, could you offer advice? IgelRM (talk) 19:02, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Also apologies for the way I acted back on the Life Is Strange 2 article. IgelRM (talk) 15:47, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Long, Long Time (The Last of Us)
On 27 February 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Long, Long Time (The Last of Us), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Linda Ronstadt's "Long, Long Time" saw a 4,900-percent increase in Spotify streams in the United States in the hour after the broadcast of the third episode of The Last of Us? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Long, Long Time (The Last of Us). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Long, Long Time (The Last of Us)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Endure and Survive
On 28 February 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Endure and Survive, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Lamar Johnson learned American Sign Language for his role in the fifth episode of The Last of Us? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Endure and Survive. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Endure and Survive), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Last of Us does not indicate linear viewership??
Should be labeled so. It says Viewers. Frustrating that you leaped on my edit without looking at it. Turin07 (talk) 03:16, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Turin07: The "U.S. viewers" corresponds to the "Original air date" column—as in, the number of viewers of the original airing on HBO. I'm told this is standard across television articles. However, your edit was incorrect regardless: for example, "5.88 million" is not a number associated with the first episode in any way, linear or not, and is not supported by any references. I certainly looked at your edits thoroughly before reverting; I'm not sure what leads you to believe otherwise. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 03:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Her Story credits
Hello! I wanted to ask you about this revert where you removed the writer and director credits for Sam Barlow. I very much disagree with your reasoning, as the infobox for a game should reflect the credits of that game in my opinion. While Barlow is listed as the developer, I don't see why that would preclude his inclusion for the other credits as well. Just as a comparison (not saying this is 1:1), the film Primer was written, directed, edited, produced, scored, and starred Shane Carruth, and he is credited in all of those fields.
Is there a precedent for this with one-person games and how they're credited? I figured we would match the credits as is but maybe there's something I'm missing. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts! Sock (tock talk) 15:08, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Sock: I appreciate the message. This is an approach I've seen with other solo-developed games like Papers, Please, Stardew Valley, and Undertale. I suppose the difference with films is that there isn't really an overarching parameter like "Developer" or "Designer"; directing a film does not mean one also wrote or edited it, whereas being named the sole developer of a video game implies writing and designing. I'd definitely support a project-wide clarification on this topic, though. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 15:23, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
GAN
Hi there, I hope you're doing well. I have a request: would it be possible for you to do some reviewing at WP:GAN? At the moment, you have had 62 articles reviewed by others, with a few more nominated, but you've done only one review.
This would also help your nominations, as the ordering of the GA queues has been changed so that nominators with a higher review:nomination ratio are placed higher. If you do no reviews, articles such as The Myth Makers will continue to languish near the bottom of the pile. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I've done a lot more than one review—at least 14, if my records are correct—but I'll consider reviewing more if I have time. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 13:26, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Review credits at WP:GAN
Hi - yes, the bot only knows about name changes if explicitly told to take them into account. If you give me your previous user name I'll add it to the list and it should update quickly. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:47, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Mike Christie: Thanks, my previous username was Rhain1999. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:01, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- I've made the change -- the bot will update the GA pages with the combined number the next time it updates the page for any reason. Let me know if the combined number still doesn't look right. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:26, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Mike Christie: Thanks for that. I can see the numbers have been combined but the issue persists: the bot says I have done three reviews, but I've done at least 14. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:04, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like it was never correct -- this version of the review stats page, from just before I took over, shows only three reviews. I verified you do indeed have 14 reviews, so I've updated the database to show that. Sorry about that -- again, the next time the bot updates the page the new number should show. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:34, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- No need to apologise—thanks for all of your consistent hard work! – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:38, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like it was never correct -- this version of the review stats page, from just before I took over, shows only three reviews. I verified you do indeed have 14 reviews, so I've updated the database to show that. Sorry about that -- again, the next time the bot updates the page the new number should show. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:34, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Mike Christie: Thanks for that. I can see the numbers have been combined but the issue persists: the bot says I have done three reviews, but I've done at least 14. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:04, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- I've made the change -- the bot will update the GA pages with the combined number the next time it updates the page for any reason. Let me know if the combined number still doesn't look right. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:26, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
NY Game Awards in YYYY in video games article
I know you've recently added the NY Game Awards to these tables; I believe that's a bit too narrow of a body of critics to consider as important as TGA, GDC, or BAFTA. I recognize that it is probably one of the few other real awards (ignoring things like Steam Awards), but at the same time, there are also awards like the Golden Joysticks that could be considered larger. The 5 that we presently feature give us the TGAs (press vote), DICE (industry vote), and GDC (developer vote), in addition to the BAFTA (UK centric) and Japan Awards (Japan centric) and I think that's enough.
I now think that it may be wise to include the other awards as a short list under the table in that section on the year pages, though I would still focus on those that routinely covered. but I did want to pass this suggestion first. Masem (t) 20:51, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Masem: Feel free to make any changes you consider appropriate; I trust your judgement. One of the main reasons I added the NY Game Awards was because I noticed Metacritic using it on their GOTY Tracker, but the justification for those five main awards is more logical. Certainly not opposed to a short list for other awards too; film articles do something similar already. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:17, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- I just wanted to make sure if I removed them you were okay/you knew I was doing it. I do think the added list is helpful and will help alleviate some awards we may not be covering. I don't know when I will get to it, however. Masem (t) 01:32, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! I appreciate you letting me know. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 01:49, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- I just wanted to make sure if I removed them you were okay/you knew I was doing it. I do think the added list is helpful and will help alleviate some awards we may not be covering. I don't know when I will get to it, however. Masem (t) 01:32, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you!
I had a small thing I noticed and you posted a note that it had already been cited in another more detailed article. Thank you for being so attentive. The world needs more people that do this work. Quartzlens (talk) 03:02, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
DYK for The Last of Us (franchise)
On 12 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Last of Us (franchise), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the second game in the series The Last of Us was developed by more than 2,100 people across 14 studios? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Last of Us (franchise). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Last of Us (franchise)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Look for the Light
On 21 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Look for the Light, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the season finale of The Last of Us used real giraffes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Look for the Light. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Look for the Light), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
DYK for When We Are in Need
On 22 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article When We Are in Need, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Bella Ramsey struggled to hold a real rifle while filming the eighth episode of The Last of Us? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/When We Are in Need. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, When We Are in Need), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
BorgQueen (talk) 00:03, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Dunder Mifflin
OK, thanks. You should have said that in your edit summary the first time, though. Daniel Case (talk) 19:26, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- I essentially did; I just didn't think it needed spelling out, especially considering the {{Citation needed}} tags. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 21:58, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Left Behind (The Last of Us)
On 27 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Left Behind (The Last of Us), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a same-sex kiss scene in the seventh episode of The Last of Us was censored in some regions? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Left Behind (The Last of Us). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Left Behind (The Last of Us)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Aoidh (talk) 00:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Galaxy 4 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sims2aholic8 -- Sims2aholic8 (talk) 14:43, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Kin (The Last of Us)
On 9 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kin (The Last of Us), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Jasmila Žbanić's experience of living through the siege of Sarajevo influenced her work on the sixth episode of The Last of Us? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kin (The Last of Us). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Kin (The Last of Us)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
BorgQueen (talk) 00:05, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Finally! It's been delayed multiple times ... and you know why
BorgQueen (talk) 02:26, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
The article Galaxy 4 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Galaxy 4 and Talk:Galaxy 4/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sims2aholic8 -- Sims2aholic8 (talk) 16:43, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
The article Galaxy 4 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Galaxy 4 for comments about the article, and Talk:Galaxy 4/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sims2aholic8 -- Sims2aholic8 (talk) 08:02, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
"Standard procedure"
Please point me to where this "standard procedure" is suggested, or where a consensus for it was formed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:14, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- WP:DEADREF, WP:PLRT. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 06:24, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- The links that were converted into Internet Archive links were not dead, so DEADREF is not relevant, and PLRT is about an automatic process, not about editors converting working live links into tnternet Archive links. Neither of these are on target. Beyond My Ken (talk) 08:51, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- DEADREF is also about preventing dead links, so it's relevant here. PLRT proves its prevalence and importance. See also WP:ARCHIVEEARLY. This is very standard procedure—I rarely see articles pass FA without archived URLs. I have no idea why you're so opposed to it; it changes very little about the article besides adding extra security. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 09:22, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- If a link works, there's no reason to change it on the mere supposition that doing so is preventing a future dead link. Look at it this way, if all links were converted to Internet Archive links we'd be putting all our eggs in one basket, and if IA ever went belly-up, ALL of those links would be dead. If they were NOT converted, each separate source, i.e. The New York Times et al. would have to go bad to have the same effect. With multiple sources, there are multiple chances that the links will remain good. When links go bad, they can be converted to IA links, but doing so when they're good does NOT help the project. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:34, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- "if all links were converted to Internet Archive links"—no links are being "converted", though: the original links remain intact, presented in the exact manner they are now. Archiving is just an extra measure to prevent link rot (or other changes to website content)."does NOT help the project"—I disagree strongly, but even if you don't think they "help", they certainly don't hinder, so I don't see any logical reason to remove them. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 12:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with Rhain 100% here. Furthermore, when a still-working URL is archived, the URL status parameter of the cite template is set to "live" so that the main/actual source link still takes you to the original page, instead of the archive. I see no reason to get rid of these clearly beneficial archive links. — AP 499D25 (talk) 14:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note: Discussion concluded here. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 23:06, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with Rhain 100% here. Furthermore, when a still-working URL is archived, the URL status parameter of the cite template is set to "live" so that the main/actual source link still takes you to the original page, instead of the archive. I see no reason to get rid of these clearly beneficial archive links. — AP 499D25 (talk) 14:50, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- "if all links were converted to Internet Archive links"—no links are being "converted", though: the original links remain intact, presented in the exact manner they are now. Archiving is just an extra measure to prevent link rot (or other changes to website content)."does NOT help the project"—I disagree strongly, but even if you don't think they "help", they certainly don't hinder, so I don't see any logical reason to remove them. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 12:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- If a link works, there's no reason to change it on the mere supposition that doing so is preventing a future dead link. Look at it this way, if all links were converted to Internet Archive links we'd be putting all our eggs in one basket, and if IA ever went belly-up, ALL of those links would be dead. If they were NOT converted, each separate source, i.e. The New York Times et al. would have to go bad to have the same effect. With multiple sources, there are multiple chances that the links will remain good. When links go bad, they can be converted to IA links, but doing so when they're good does NOT help the project. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:34, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- DEADREF is also about preventing dead links, so it's relevant here. PLRT proves its prevalence and importance. See also WP:ARCHIVEEARLY. This is very standard procedure—I rarely see articles pass FA without archived URLs. I have no idea why you're so opposed to it; it changes very little about the article besides adding extra security. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 09:22, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- The links that were converted into Internet Archive links were not dead, so DEADREF is not relevant, and PLRT is about an automatic process, not about editors converting working live links into tnternet Archive links. Neither of these are on target. Beyond My Ken (talk) 08:51, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
In regards to Versus
Hey Rhain, I totally get it, I didn’t mean any bad by the question, thank you for your clarification. XJJSX (talk) 07:06, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- No harm done! It was an interesting topic—just not the appropriate venue, I'm afraid. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 12:42, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
(Though, to be clear, that N64 trio would be my pick.) ☔
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DYK for Galaxy 4
On 26 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Galaxy 4, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the gender of the villains in Galaxy 4 was switched to female partly due to the women's liberation movement? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Galaxy 4. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Galaxy 4), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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DYK for List of The Last of Us (TV series) characters
On 27 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article List of The Last of Us (TV series) characters, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the soundtrack of The Last of Us features a song performed by Nick Offerman, who played a character in the series? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/List of The Last of Us (TV series) characters. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, List of The Last of Us (TV series) characters), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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DYK for Music of The Last of Us (TV series)
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Aoidh (talk) 00:03, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
Nathan Drake's relationships section
Hello there,
What are your thoughts on an added section talking about Drake's relationships over the course of the series? I've seen that many other video game character articles have this and why Drake's article doesn't have a section on this as I think it would be helpful for readers learning more about him and who he has worked with. LDMisEditing (talk) 15:55, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- @LDMisEditing: If several reliable, secondary sources discuss Drake's relationships throughout the series, I'd say a section like that would be appropriate. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 23:52, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- Would you consider Screenrant to be considered one of the reliable, secondary sources? LDMisEditing (talk) 01:13, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- @LDMisEditing: Per WP:VG/S, it is considered "situational", so it would be fine for uncontroversial statements. I wouldn't rely on them for an entire section, though. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 01:21, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- sounds good. One more thing: If I were to add a relationships section, can I create the section and add information like piece by piece and not one whole 'completed' section. LDMisEditing (talk) 21:26, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- @LDMisEditing: Of course; Wikipedia is a work in progress, after all. However, since the article is classed as a good article, it's likely your edits there will be more highly scrutinised, so if you'd like to continue building the section in your own time, I'd recommend doing so on your sandbox. Let me know if you need anything else. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:17, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- awesome, thank you. Editing a wiki article is a project we're doing in my college course right now and i'm learning a lot. Your feedback has been great and thanks for being clear and concise about what i'm doing wrong or what i'm doing right. I will probably be making edits soon so you'll see some more changes but any feedback from those changes are so helpful, thanks again. LDMisEditing (talk) 01:03, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- @LDMisEditing: Of course; Wikipedia is a work in progress, after all. However, since the article is classed as a good article, it's likely your edits there will be more highly scrutinised, so if you'd like to continue building the section in your own time, I'd recommend doing so on your sandbox. Let me know if you need anything else. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:17, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- sounds good. One more thing: If I were to add a relationships section, can I create the section and add information like piece by piece and not one whole 'completed' section. LDMisEditing (talk) 21:26, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- @LDMisEditing: Per WP:VG/S, it is considered "situational", so it would be fine for uncontroversial statements. I wouldn't rely on them for an entire section, though. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 01:21, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Would you consider Screenrant to be considered one of the reliable, secondary sources? LDMisEditing (talk) 01:13, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
May 2023
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Rhain (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Two (1, 2) of the five relevant reversions were to fix obvious vandalism which (perhaps unintentionally) broke a template per WP:3RRNO. All other edits were to ensure adherence to the MoS and policy, including after a warning to the user—while these are not exemptions and I obviously should have sought dispute resolution sooner, I don't believe they were intentionally disruptive, especially in light of the severity of the block length. In any case, I will certainly ensure stricter adherence to dispute resolution in future. Thanks. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 07:37, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
Accept reason:
"assured that user understands policy and will not edit war" — MSGJ
If not intentional (as you admit) then it cannot possibly fit the definition of vandalism and so does not qualify for any of the exemptions. Regarding the block length, this was set because it is not the first block you have received for edit warring, so you should be fully aware of the policy. This was a new user who was acting in good faith - the kind of editor we would like to retain. You should be welcoming and supportive but instead you reverted 5 times. Why didn't you just fix the template and give them some friendly advice? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:49, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- @MSGJ: You're right: I think my experience alone should prove that I'm fully aware of the policy, let alone my previous block; and, while I stand by fixing the template, the edit is more likely to fit this description than deliberate vandalism and I should not have labelled it as such. That article feels like a magnet for (actual, obvious) vandalism and disruption so I've clearly let its history cloud my judgement; instead of both demonstrating and assuming good faith, I've done the opposite and potentially driven away a good faith editor. One thing I need to keep in mind more is WP:THEREISNORUSH: obvious vandalism/copyvio aside, it's okay to direct an editor to a talk page instead of rushing to remove the content, whether it's constructive or not. I appreciate your advice. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 08:33, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for this. You are a good editor who just made a mistake this time. Please remember that 3RR is a bright-line rule that should never be broken. "When in doubt, do not revert." I'm unblocking now — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:54, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
Why is Last of us Prologue in 2013?
Do you have proof of why prologue is in 2013? JackBridgestone (talk) 11:39, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- @JackBridgestone: Here are a few sources:
- "In the game's chronology, the Cordyceps pandemic erupts in 2013" (TechRadar)
- "September 2013: Cordyceps infection reaches the United States" (GameRevolution)
- "the outbreak occurs in 2013" (Kotaku)
- "the original game's 2033 setting and 2013 civilizational collapse" (The A.V. Club)
- Hope that helps. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 12:21, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- wow, I'm Surprised 🤯. Thanks soo much for the help and Source. JackBridgestone (talk) 18:27, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of MasterChef: Dessert Makers
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A tag has been placed on MasterChef: Dessert Makers requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a recently created redirect from an implausible typo or misnomer, or other unlikely search term.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Happily888 (talk) 02:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you note
Hi! I don't know how to use this page, so apologies if I shouldn't be commenting this here, but I'd like to thank you for your proactivity pertaining to Ashley Johnson's Wikipedia page! 2600:4040:2C79:B500:E468:E2CC:B057:ED9C (talk) 03:23, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
This article, for best selling PS5 games, are needed to be updated with newer sources. CastJared (talk) 05:55, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- @CastJared: There likely aren't any newer sources available, so there's not much updating to be done. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 02:44, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Portrait of Hidemaro Fujibayashi
I noticed that you added a photo of Hidemaro Fujibayashi to his page, and want to thank you for doing so. However, I believe a higher quality photo should be used. Because you uploaded the photo specifically for this page, I wanted to ask for approval for me to replace the image; I don't want to step on any toes. I'm willing to do all of the work, I just wanted to run it by you first. Thanks. SidekickDART (talk) 02:15, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- @SidekickDART: Thanks for your message. I agree, this photograph's quality is awful; it's just the only freely licensed image of Fujibayashi that I've been able to find. If you can find a better alternative, though, I'd be thrilled to see it replaced! – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 02:36, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I was able to locate a better photo and have updated the page with it. I agree that locating such a photo is/was difficult; It took me over an hour of digging to find a photo that was licensed under Creative Commons. In any case, I'm still glad you used the photo you did. A low-quality photo is better than no photo at all, and it's inclusion directly inspired the location of a more suitable photo. I would not have tried to find this photo otherwise. Thanks again! SidekickDART (talk) 00:29, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of The Myth Makers
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"MasterChef: Dessert Makers" listed at Redirects for discussion
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DYK for The Myth Makers
On 9 June 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Myth Makers, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that while filming the Doctor Who serial The Myth Makers, William Hartnell was jealous of being upstaged by the other actors? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Myth Makers. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Myth Makers), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
BorgQueen (talk) 00:04, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Nathan Drake (Uncharted)
Nathan Drake (Uncharted) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 10:28, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
Re: Character Infoboxes
I've been trying to go through and standardize the character article infoboxes, given that we have far less to contend with now (about 600 total) and it's more manageable, based off standards from the other articles. Primarily focusing on details specific for a reader to understand a character at a glance. Stuff like family and significant others etc has been regarded as WP:CRUFT, while the infobox colors get responses of accessibility issues for colorblind users, moreso with editors just arbitrarily applying any color they feel fit to one. So just trying to explain where those changes are coming from.-- Kung Fu Man (talk) 05:11, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- I'm aware of the reasoning, and appreciate your explanation. I agree that some infoboxes get filled with far too much trivial information (I've actively worked to trim several in the past), but I don't think it's all useless, hence my occasional partial reverts. I'm also aware of colour accessibility concerns and would never intentionally make a change in violation of that. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 05:26, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Well how do you feel about the family/sigother/child/etc parameters at the very least? It's not such a problem on Abby and Niko for example, but it does become one on bigger character articles like it was here, and I'm concerned users will point at the outliers as arguments as to "why can't this article have these?" like kept coming up with Samus in the past when her's were cleaned out.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 05:53, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- I think it's entirely dependent on the character, and the information included. Blazkowicz is a good example of an infobox that took it too far (e.g. seven lines repeated "MachineGames" without actually clarifying what that means—and it's not really a necessary clarification anyway), so I think your removal of his occupation, relatives, and birthdate are logical. That being said, I think some of the information (namely his wife and daughters) is relevant and important, so I've restored those.Personally, I prefer to focus on improving an article based on its own merits rather than worrying about another editor improperly using it as an example to justify their own edits—though, to your concern, I think articles like Abby and Niko would work to your advantage, since those are examples of using parameters selectively and only including information that is important to the character and article (rather than endlessly listing all possible occupations, nicknames, and relatives). – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 06:18, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Well how do you feel about the family/sigother/child/etc parameters at the very least? It's not such a problem on Abby and Niko for example, but it does become one on bigger character articles like it was here, and I'm concerned users will point at the outliers as arguments as to "why can't this article have these?" like kept coming up with Samus in the past when her's were cleaned out.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 05:53, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
TFL notification
Hi, Rhain. I'm just posting to let you know that List of accolades received by The Last of Us – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for July 14. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 21:44, 30 June 2023 (UTC)