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Wikipedia and copyright

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:49, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for info. It is possible that I have missed some sources in a draft. It is still under construction and I will try to improve that. Rordayukki (talk) 21:30, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May 2019

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Icewhiz (talk) 15:19, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, censorship warninig. Thanks! Rordayukki (talk) 15:30, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. However, the posting above is merely informational. Icewhiz (talk) 15:44, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, of course. I believe you like no one. Rordayukki (talk) 15:52, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How so? I don't believe we have crossed paths before, why the hostility? Icewhiz (talk) 16:05, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No hostility at all. I have doubts about last edit wars on some articles. It is not personal issue, rather fear about misinformation on wiki. Rordayukki (talk) 17:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Where in particular? I'd be happy to hear constructive criticism on where my edits have left doubts and even possible misinformation. Icewhiz (talk) 17:07, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion on topics related to this information on the wiki talk pages, so I am waiting for the result for now. Rordayukki (talk) 17:20, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

At Chaim Rumkowski, why are you placing Jewish in nationality? Was he not a Polish citizen of the Second Republic?Icewhiz (talk) 17:43, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Like Icewhiz, I'm also interested in understanding the issue here. What specific "misinformation on wiki" concerns you? Can you be more explicit please? Jayjg ^(talk) 18:40, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

At Polish wiki Chaim Rumkowski is described as a Jew. He was born in Russian Empire in a Jewish family. I have checked other languages. In most cases he is described as a Jew. That specific "misinformation on (english) wiki" concerns me very much. This the phenomen of English wikipedia. Most pages say Jew, even polish wikipedia, but no let's write sth different...

What is the specific "misinformation"? Was he a Polish citizen? Jayjg ^(talk) 18:57, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

According to other languages wiki no.

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechaj_Chaim_Rumkowski Národnost Židovská
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Rumkowski Nationalité Juifs
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Rumkowski Polish Jew
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Rumkowski Narodowość Żydowska
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D0%BC%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%A5%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BC Kraj Żydzi
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Rumkowski Jewish
So, was he? Rordayukki (talk) 19:33, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, are you saying that he was not a citizen of Poland? Please state that specifically, if that's what you mean. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wait, weren't that wikipedia links or some fake mirorrs? You published some hypothesis. I checked the wikpedia sources. Aren't wikipedia links legitimate for you? Rordayukki (talk) 22:15, 22 May 2019 (UTC) PS. I am aware that there is no citizenship in the "personal box", but nationality with slightly different meaning...[reply]

What hypothesis did I publish? I'm just asking a simple question; was he a citizen of Poland? That requires a "yes" or "no" answer, not links to all sorts of pages on other language wikis, which aren't relevant here in any event. Jayjg ^(talk) 13:50, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You said that after birth in Russian Empire he became a citizen of Poland. I do understand that some people think that time do not exists, but in that case. Simple answer is. No, he wasn't a cictizen of Poland in 1877. Also in 1878 and so on. So, once again - Could you please do not manipulate the history? Thanks Rordayukki (talk) 20:54, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Poland being part of the Russian empire at the time. However, lets focus the question - was he a citizen of Poland from 11 November 1918, and in particular was he Polish during the activities that made him notable? Icewhiz (talk) 11:28, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I said no such thing; find the post where I said that. Then, answer my question above, which Icewhiz has now asked again. Jayjg ^(talk) 13:24, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So he was not a Polish citizen at all times. Therefore, you have made an approximation to the forced thesis. I hope you are happy. BTW Do you have any evidence for multi-accounts or the introduction of censorship is an element of the communist wikipedia? Rordayukki (talk) 22:08, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is MOS:ETHNICITY on articles about Polish Jews. Jayjg ^(talk) 19:53, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for info Rordayukki (talk) 16:45, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lehi-attempt of collaboration with Nazis

I see that you are drafting a very interesting article.You might be interested in this terrorist organization which attempted to collaborate with Nazis[1] --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 19:54, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Rordayukki (talk) 16:38, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 2019

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