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Speedy deletion nomination of 2 Years to Apocalypse

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September 2018

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on Method Man. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Binksternet (talk) 18:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

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A tag has been placed on Blackbriar (band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Hello, I have declined the speedy delete request for this page because you tagged it as under construction. However, I agree with Tagishsimon that the article doesn't credibly indicate why the subject is important. You will need to expand the article to address this issue in the next few days to avoid having it nominated for deletion again. -- Scott (talk) 18:35, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello Scott, the drummer of the band Blackbriar has sent me the correct information, which I have just added to the page. I'll be awaiting your response. -- Ruurd (talk), 20:48, 26 November 2018 (UTC+1)

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Ways to improve Blackbriar (band)

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Thanks for creating Blackbriar (band)! I edit here too, under the username Doomsdayer520 and it's nice to meet you :-)

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Ways to improve Magic-O-Metal

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Thank you for creating Magic-O-Metal.

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Nomination of Magic-O-Metal for deletion

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Speedy deletion nomination of Ad Infinitum (Swiss band)

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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Ad Infinitum (Swiss band) for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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Ad Infinitum (Swiss band) moved to draftspace

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ad Infinitum (Swiss band) (April 13)

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Gabriel Jacob-Cross moved to draftspace

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I've just created the page for Ayreon's album Transitus. I've also sent the link to Arjen Lucassen himself through Facebook, with the request of checking the page if everything has been added correctly. RuurdWoltring (talk) 08:33, 25 September 2020 (UTC+2)

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Hello, FireflyBot, I just don't have the time to work on this page anymore, because of privacy reasons. Therefore, you have my permission to nominate it for deletion under CSD G13.

Thanks for you time. RuurdWoltring (talk) 08:45, 25 April 2021 (NL time)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Aeranea

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 06:14, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Sushi Kids

Hello, RuurdWoltring. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Sushi Kids".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:22, 23 November 2022 (UTC)