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Your submission at Articles for creation: Independent Social Research Foundation (January 31)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Independent Social Research Foundation
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A tag has been placed on Draft:Independent Social Research Foundation requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://www.isrf.org/funding-opportunities/grant-competitions/#ECF. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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Copyright, notability and conflict of interest
[edit]Thank you for your interest in creating an article for Draft:Independent Social Research Foundation on Wikipedia. There are multiple problems with your submission. You cannot post copyrighted material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder, unless special licensing permissions are in place. In short, a copyright owner cannot offer Wikipedia a one-time license for use. Rather, the copyright to the material has to be released – permanently and irrevocably – into the public domain or under a free copyright license that is compatible with Wikipedia's licenses. This is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, so all content must be licensed for that purpose. You can learn more about this policy at Wikipedia:Copyrights.
The second problem is notability. I am not sure the organization you are writing about is notable enough, as Wikipedia defines it, to have an article. We require write-ups in reliable third party sources such as newspapers, magazines, or online publishers to establish notability. New articles about persons or organizations that are not notable are typically deleted.
The third problem is conflict of interest. Writing an article about your own organization or that of a client is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view.
If you'd like to use the copyrighted content in an article, you can follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission on how to obtain the proper licensing. If you are the copyright holder, refer to Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for how to grant us permission to use your content. Alternatively, you could write a new article that does not closely paraphrase the material available online. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. However you would then still have to abide by the conflict of interest guideline, and even so, there is a likelihood that the article may be deleted due to lack of notability. In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).
I'm sorry this message could not be more favourable. If you have any questions, you can leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:48, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Conflict of Interest
[edit]Hello, Sdgwilson. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).
Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. – Athaenara ✉ 20:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Blocked
[edit]{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. – Athaenara ✉ 20:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Please unblock, this is not a productive or efficient way of discussing the issues, or allowing me to respond to comments...
[edit]Sdgwilson (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
The page I am creating is a work in progress. I asked for it to be undeleted so that I could make modifications and/or grant permissions such that content from the ISRF website could be reproduced on the wiki page. However, no sooner was it undeleted, I was then indefinitely blocked so that I could not make any changes! This 'guilty until proven innocent' approach is so wasteful of time and effort. I am very aware of issues around subjectivity and bias - I would be interested if you could point out a non-objective statement in the draft I was working on? Whilst I acknowledge the Conflict of Interest, such COI's are not unmanageable. I have experience in writing objectively and without assigning undue values to neutral statements, which is what is required on Wikipedia generally, but especially in cases where there is a COI. I have disclosed my COI. The article is not intended as 'advertising, publicising, or promoting' - it is to provide information, in the same way that pages exist for similar organisations such as the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, the Leverhulme Trust, the Wellcome Trust, the The British Academy etc.. Indefinitely blocking me has made it impossible for me to add further secondary sources (though I note that one reviewer said that all the sources were primary, whereas I had already added one secondary source and there are more to come), including mentions of the foundation in the Times Higher Education publication and elsewhere. Sdgwilson (talk) 13:06, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Decline reason:
The issue is more that your draft was almost entirely composed of copyright violations from your organization's website. "Providing information" is considered promotional here; you don't have to be actively selling something. Wikipedia is not for merely providing information; as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state about topics that are notable as defined by Wikipedia. Wikipedia has no interest in what an article subject wants to say about itself. In this case, notability is defined at WP:ORG. Not every organization merits an article here, even within the same field. Please read other stuff exists. Similar organizations meriting articles does not automatically mean yours does too. Each article is judged on its own merits. Being unblocked will involve you agreeing to not directly edit about your organization. If you want to write about topics that are outside of your conflict of interest, please tell what those might be in another unblock request; I am declining this one. If you want to respond to comments, you may do that on this page. 331dot (talk) 14:19, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
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Sdgwilson (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Fyrther to the above. If you could undelete and leave it as an unpublished draft, I could update and add many more secondary sources, and then you could make a judgement based on the full information. I hadn't completed the page, and there is more that I knew needed to be done to meet Wiki standards. I didn't, however, expect the work in progress to be deleted and any attempts to update the work to be blocked. Sdgwilson (talk) 12:35, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Decline reason:
As discussed copyright violations cannot be restored. PhilKnight (talk) 05:57, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
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Someone else will review this block. However, we cannot allow copyright violations to stand for legal reasons. This is why it was deleted and will not be restored. Your Foundation would need to license the content with a license compatible with Wikipedia and its purpose; they may not want to give up their rights to it. I wouldn't, if I were them. Furthermore, original text is preferred even without copyright/legal issues. As I stated, it's unlikely you will be unblocked without you agreeing to not edit about your organization and telling what it is you will edit about instead- but that will be up to the next reviewer. 331dot (talk) 13:21, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- We'll, as I've said somewhere earlier in this, I can either issue the permissions for reproduction of content or - more likely - edit the text in the article such that is not just a reproduction of what's on the website. But I can't do that if I'm blocked and the page isn't undelete and returned to draft form so that I can actually make the edits that have been suggested! I'm happy to be judged on the objectives city - or otherwise - of the page once it's finished, but it's a bit much being judged on it when it's in-progress, and when I can't even take on board and incorporate people's suggestions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdgwilson (talk • contribs) 18:47, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Pages that were deleted as copyright violations cannot and will not be restored, on the grounds that (1) if the editor needs the text that bad they can just go to the source they lifted it from and (2) that would make Wikipedia outright liable for copyright infringement. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Bori! 21:07, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Well, (1) you forget all the formatting, links layout etc., and (2) not of I either give the consent for the text to be reproduced from the ISRF website or - as I've made repeatedly clear would be the more likely course of action - rewritten the text so that it is 'original'. I'm not asking for the page to be made live, but for me to be unblocked and the page returned to draft so that I might actually attempt to satisfy the requirements that have been set out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdgwilson (talk • contribs) 21:15, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Block modified
[edit]– Athaenara ✉ 21:56, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Sdgwilson (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
UTRS appeal #23886 was submitted on Feb 04, 2019 08:17:57. This review is now closed.