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Talk:Canberra MRT station/GA1
Hi SounderBruce. Thanks for your patience in reviewing Canberra MRT station. Me and my co-nominators had made some progress to the page and in my view, have addressed your concerns. Do take a look when you are free and hopefully we will pass the GA. Welcome any additional comments. Thanks. --Quek157 (talk) 15:26, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Sea Tac/Airport Station
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I see that you're quite an expert in these matters. Do you know if the SeaTac/Airport Station has a bus lane under the station. Looking at Google Maps, it does not. The top photo in the article shows a bus. However, the bus is not stopped but happens to be driving past the station at high speeds. A bus stop is on International Blvd. which you can see in the top photo (bus shelter). Is this correct?
My question is to understand the station because I want to make it a FA. I have just made an article FA and want to do a second one. You can be co-nominated when it's ready because of your work on that article. Vanguard10 (talk) 05:57, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Vanguard10: The bus in the photo is a Port of Seattle rental car shuttle bus traveling on the Airport Expressway. There are no bus lanes under the station itself (just a small parking lot for Sound Transit workers), but there are buses that run on International Boulevard.
- As for the article's FA prospects, I don't think it's ready. The details for the alternative station sites haven't been fleshed out and I haven't gotten around to adding updated information on the covered garage connection. I'm currently focused on the FAC for Central Link and getting the remaining Sounder commuter rail stations up to GA status for a potential good topic, so I'm not looking to add another item to my to-do list. SounderBruce 06:36, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- You're certainly an important person in Wikipedia so I will work very slowly and also wait for your future input. Vanguard10 (talk) 03:22, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
I've made an edit using different wording about the bus stops not being in the station. I am willing to work very slowly and not everyday so you can review edits. I am open to discussion to article improvement. If you want to lay off and watch it improve, that is ok. (I see you are in Wikicup - if you want credit, I will try to get this to FAC eventually and co-nominate you so you can get the credit and 200 points) If you want to supervise and approve all changes, that is ok, if done in the Wikipedia way. If so, I will make it easier on you and make very small changes very slowly. Vanguard10 (talk) 02:47, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of East Link Extension
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article East Link Extension you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ceranthor -- Ceranthor (talk) 17:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Very concerned about a possible lack of cooperation on your part
Thank you for your willing to discuss things on the article talk page. However, I am concerned that you appear very determined to have it your way by reverting all edits. In contrast, I suggest various alternatives when the original is not liked by you. You mention now wasting "digital ink" on a discussion about bus stops but this is just a start of potential problems. The effort to improve the article is great and complex. I choose one of the easiest passages to start.
What is a possible solution to editing? I am open to suggestions. Vanguard10 (talk) 03:29, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Vanguard10: I suggest you step away from the article and try to understand Wikipedia's policies on disputes/discussion and reliable sources before returning. Wikipedia is not a place to generate new information (e.g. the bus stops being adjacent to the station), but rather a place to echo well-established facts from well-established reliable sources (e.g. "the bus stops at the station"). While it's admirable to get a featured article, it should not be seen as the ultimate goal for an article and an editor should not try and burn bridges while rushing towards the "goal". As the primary contributor and researcher, I don't have ownership of the article, but I do have a responsibility to steward the article appropriately and prevent policy violations. I consider the term "lack of cooperation" to be a borderline personal attack, so I'll ask you to keep things civil and less heated. SounderBruce 05:45, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
- No personal attack is intended, whether borderline or overt. May I suggest your very good suggestion, except that you step away from the article? I have a responsibility to steward the article having a demonstrated interest in aviation above and beyond you. I do not have an interest in editing the University of Washington station article or the Angle Lake station article. I do ask you to keep things civil and less heated, perhaps suggesting that you take your advice and step away from the article.
- My concern is that I have chosen the area of least dispute in the article (a simple idea that buses do not stop at the station but adjacent to it) but you have been firmly entrenched in rejecting all compromise. I do not attack you as I commend you for replying to discussion.
- It is not an attack on Sound Transit to not take a grandiose view of this station being huge and having all this bus service. In fact, southbound, it is hard to get to the bus because you must take the overpass to cross the street, go down to the street level, then cross the street back to get to the bus stop (judging from Google Maps). This is far from bus service being in the station and is consistent with the Port of Seattle's description that bus service is adjacent (not in) the station. The Port of Seattle is the owner of the airport and not just a seaport, just as the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is the owner of JFK Airport in New York.
- I ask for your cooperation so that it will not be a huge effort just to improve one or two sentences. At that rate, it will take about 20 years (1000 weeks) of constant editing to do what should take 6 weeks of editing the article. Let's work in the spirit of cooperation or perhaps you can focus your efforts on all the other transit articles that you are working on. But please do not simply revert. I try not to revert back but make many different proposals so stubborn I am not. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Vanguard10 07:02, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
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- Thank you for letting me know your concern. Do know that expression of concern can be interpreted as a false accusation or even a personal attack so expressions of concern have to be worded with utmost care. There was no canvassing. I did not ask anyone to make a comment on any talk page. I am actually very concerned about you. I thought that you might be a good person to work collaboratively but it appears that there is a risk of edit wars based on the large amount of discussion that has taken place just to use the word "adjacent" to describe a bus stop. This is extremely disappointing as I originally thought you were a very esteemed Wikipedian based on your many transit edits. I do not withdraw that public sentiment but hope that you will confirm in my mind your esteemed reputation. Vanguard10 22:00, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Vanguard10: Your message at User talk:MilborneOne is a textbook case of canvassing, using non-neutral tone and trying to rope in an uninvolved user. A template message delivered by Twinkle is not a personal attack. SounderBruce 22:06, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
- Then perhaps you should write a personalized message rather than a template. My message to MilbourneOne is to seek advice on editing in general and did not ask him to intervene or tell him what the editing problem was. Perhaps you should stop using Twinkle because of inappropriate use of a template message. There was no canvassing. Vanguard10 22:09, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Disappointed that you would act like that
I am very disappointed that you would act so aggressively to try to have me blocked in the Edit Warring noticeboard. That effort has failed. Please try to work cooperatively.
I have submitted a request in the WP:THIRDOPINION noticeboard. That page states that it is less formal. It is less aggressive than even RFC.
I also recommend that we think of multiple alternative wordings so that we can come to an agreement (I have done so many times). Your use of Twinkle to simply revert things is not constructive. Please do not jeopardize the current GA by this dispute. FYI, your behavior has caused me to retire from Wikipedia except to reach a conclusion to a few open issues, such as this one. I have no plans to improve the SeaTac/Airport article in other sections because you are, frankly, very difficult to work with. You fail to discuss, just use Twinkle reverts. Vanguard10 (talk) 04:28, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Vanguard10: A report to AN3 does not mean a request for a block. It's a request for some meditation from an uninvolved administrator, which may result in a warning, page lockdown, or a block. The stability of the article, which puts the GA status in question, was interrupted by you with your disruptive edits and revert first, talk later attitude. Retiring over a little content dispute, on an article you have barely had any involvement in, is just childish. SounderBruce 04:51, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- I recommend that you don't call other Wikipedia users "childish". How would you like it if someone called you h_____. I won't stoop to that level, even if true. It's not a content dispute, it is your behavior coming from a long time editor. Vanguard10 (talk) 05:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Edmonds station (Washington)
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DYK for California Senate Bill 827
On 7 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article California Senate Bill 827, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that California's Senate Bill 827 would have affected 96 percent of land in San Francisco? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/California Senate Bill 827. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, California Senate Bill 827), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Let's Move Nashville
On 7 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Let's Move Nashville, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a citizens' group opposing Nashville's transit referendum submitted an op-ed to The Tennessean under a fake name? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Let's Move Nashville. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Let's Move Nashville), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Art+Feminism, Jacob Lawrence Gallery, Saturday, May 12th, 1-5pm
Wikipedia is one of the most wide-reaching repositories of shared knowledge, yet a 2011 survey found that less than 10% of its contributors identify as female, suggesting an alarming absence of voices. What and how information is shared is skewed by this gender disparity. To help change this, the Jacob Lawrence Gallery is organizing a quarterly series of Edit-a-thons to improve Wikipedia's coverage of womxn artists of color.
This Saturday afternoon's gathering will focus on creating, editing, updating, and expanding pages for womxn artists from Latin America and the Caribbean. The Edit-a-thon will feature a talk by Dan Paz, Lecturer in the UW School of Art + Art History + Design, an artist, and an educator who explores the labor of digital imaging production as a collaborative site where the intersections of the image-idea and lived experience are produced and contested. Through videos, photography, and sculptural projects that query the ability of documentary processes to be manipulated—to be multiplied and replicated, stopped and started, rewound and advanced—Dan works within the impossibilities of absolute replication to question the very ability of the image to truly represent. Everyone is welcome. Access to UW WiFi will be provided for non-UW affiliated participants. All you need to bring is your laptop, power cord, and ideas. No previous Wikipedia experience required! Childcare, snacks from local businesses, and editing tutorials will be provided. Please check the Facebook event page for updates. When: Saturday, May 12th, 1-5pm |
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DYK for Sumner station
On 8 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sumner station, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Sumner station (pictured) was designed to resemble hop kilns, referencing the city's historical agriculture industry? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sumner station. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sumner station), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Good Article Backlog
Hi SounderBruce. I am looking to encourage suitable editors to review more articles at WP:GAN. Currently you have 5 nominations awaiting review and as you are probably aware there is a large backlog. This means you and other editors may have to wait months before your articles are reviewed. According to User:GA bot/Stats you have reviewed 5 articles and your user page says you have helped promote 99 articles to GA status. This suggests that you are familiar with the criteria and able to contribute more reviews. Without editors reviewing articles the process falls apart. If you need some help with reviewing feel free to ask me or leave a note at the help desk. Regards AIRcorn (talk) 11:25, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
DYK for The Emerald (building)
On 10 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Emerald (building), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the upper floors of a new high-rise building in Seattle will cantilever over an adjacent building? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Emerald (building). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, The Emerald (building)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Happy Birthday!
![]() | Just a happy birthday message to you, SounderBruce, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Tks, Slightlymad (talk ⋅ contribs) 09:45, 13 May 2018 (UTC) |
Your GA nomination of Sumner station
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Your GA nomination of Sumner station
The article Sumner station you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Sumner station for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Freikorp -- Freikorp (talk) 13:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
- Don't feel obligated but I'm looking for comments on a featured list candidate and also on a peer review. I'll happily review another of your GANs if you comment on both. :) Freikorp (talk) 12:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Sumner station
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A barnstar for you!
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Wow, congrats on your 100th good article, and thanks for your incredible contributions to Wikipedia. AMAZING! --Another Believer (Talk) 00:38, 14 May 2018 (UTC) |
- BTW, I'm anxious to see your final Hotel Deca article some day. I stayed there once! ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: Feels like I've been unconsciously delaying the articles you've been waiting for (Nordstrom and Deca). The wait will be worth it, I promise! SounderBruce 00:57, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- Editing Wikipedia should be pressure free, I just enjoy reading about places I've been. :) ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:59, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: Feels like I've been unconsciously delaying the articles you've been waiting for (Nordstrom and Deca). The wait will be worth it, I promise! SounderBruce 00:57, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Let's Move Nashville
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Your GA nomination of Let's Move Nashville
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DYK for Frederick W. Winters House
On 19 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Frederick W. Winters House, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Frederick W. Winters House is the only nationally designated historic property in Bellevue, Washington? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Frederick W. Winters House. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Frederick W. Winters House), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Gatoclass (talk) 01:27, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Auburn station (Sound Transit)
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Your GA nomination of Auburn station (Sound Transit)
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Your GA nomination of Let's Move Nashville
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DYK for 2017 Cypress Island Atlantic salmon pen break
![]() | On 20 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 2017 Cypress Island Atlantic salmon pen break, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that an accidental release of farmed Atlantic salmon in Washington state was initially blamed on unusually strong tides during a solar eclipse? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/2017 Cypress Island Atlantic salmon pen break. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
— Maile (talk) 01:12, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Mount Baker from Arlington?
Mount Baker isn't mentioned at Arlington, Washington#Geography but surely it is also one of the visible peaks there? ☆ Bri (talk) 02:19, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Bri: Baker is blocked by some of the closer hills. Even in Smokey Point/northern Marysville, it's barely visible from elevated views. SounderBruce 02:47, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, wow. Now I know. Maybe a factoid for the article! ☆ Bri (talk) 03:17, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- I played around with Peakfinder a little and discovered that Mt Baker should be visible from Pioneer Elementary. [1] Ideally, no trees, etc. ☆ Bri (talk) 05:49, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- Even a few hundred feet off the ground, Baker's cap is barely visible. Meanwhile, Marysville has perfect views of Rainier and Baker from street level. SounderBruce 06:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
TFA and DYK
thank you Arlington, Washington, and also for 2017 Cypress Island Atlantic salmon pen break, nice company to "my" Messe solennelle (Vierne) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:41, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of East Link Extension
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DYK for Auburn station (Sound Transit)
On 26 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Auburn station (Sound Transit), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Auburn train station also serves as the venue for a seasonal farmers' market? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Auburn station (Sound Transit). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Auburn station (Sound Transit)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 01:42, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Puyallup station
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Your GA nomination of Puyallup station
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Tireless Barnstar
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For all the work you do on the Wikipedia:The 50,000 Challenge/Pacific Northwest. Thank you for expanding articles on the best place on the planet. Jaldous1 (talk) 19:24, 27 May 2018 (UTC) |
+1 ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:06, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
ITN recognition for 2018 UEFA Champions League Final
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I-90 Business Route (Spokane)
Do you think we should even display the shield? The business route no longer exists. The Sprague Avenue / Interstate 90 interchange—which was the eastern end of the business route—is incomplete, and therefore you cannot even drive the full length of the former business route. Here you can see the original interchange layout, which unlike today has an eastbound on-ramp. What are your thoughts on this? I feel like we should just keep the info about the Spokane business route in the notes section. Howpper (talk) 04:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Howpper: As a former route, the shield should be removed entirely. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, as business routes are a bit outside my field of expertise. The detailed information about the business route should be moved to the business route list's section on Spokane. The notes column for exit lists are meant for very short notes that have no viable spinoff article (like former alignments; note that not all of them need to be listed, especially for routes that were followed by interstates). SounderBruce 04:16, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Jarrett Walker draft
I noticed that you wrote Draft:Jarrett Walker, which hasn't been changed since last December. Do you plan on going back to expand the draft again in the near future? I've been wanting to create an article about him as well -- your draft seems like a great base to work off of, and I'd be interested in adding to it and then publishing it in the mainspace. -- FlyingPenguins (talk) 07:54, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- @FlyingPenguins: I do plan on fleshing out the entry in the near future, but my hands are a bit full at the moment with some more pressing projects, or general distractions. Feel free to add onto that draft, and I'll come back around to polish it up for publication. SounderBruce 07:58, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Sounds good! I expect to add to it in the next few weeks myself as well. -- FlyingPenguins (talk) 16:44, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hmlarson (talk) 21:10, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Martin Luther King Jr. Way
Was surprised you decided this wasn't ready for mainspace. This is completely your area of expertise so I'm not doubting your judgement but would just love to know some of the thinking behind it. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:54, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Barkeep49: Generally, I gather sources and write up short bullet-point lists before going back and converting it into prose with details. There's a pretty significant gap in my notes for the article (concerning when the road was first built), so it was far from ready for the mainspace. I've been slowly pulling back my work from the draftspace because I've had several pages prematurely moved to the mainspace before they were really ready. SounderBruce 02:57, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- As someone who spends most of his Wiki time at WP:NPP and WP:GA (when not editing in my own niche area) rare is the time that a new article is pulled back into draft by its editor rather than pushed out too soon. Having looked at it for NPP, though admittedly not having read it thoroughly, I thought it more than ready for the main space even if it was not yet at the level of quality of other work of yours. Thanks for the answer. I always enjoy insight into how thoughtful editors go about their work here. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
I-405 BRT stations
I'll probably move User:Bri/NE 85th BRT Station to main space tomorrow. Is there a naming convention for the I-405 BRT stations yet? Thanks. ☆ Bri (talk) 05:09, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Bri: I don't suggest creating articles on the BRT stations at all, since they aren't individually notable and will be hard to maintain in the long-term. Sound Transit hasn't adopted official names for the stations, and hasn't really locked down their locations yet, so anything done now would be WP:CRYSTAL. SounderBruce 05:21, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- Uh, you don't think a 300 million dollar project is notable? We have lots of proposed infrastructure articles, why not this one? ☆ Bri (talk) 05:27, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- I'd rather wait and see what exactly gets nailed down. If transit research has taught me anything, it's that the ballot plans are never anywhere close to the final product; I think the best time to set up the articles would be after the first round of scoping meetings. SR 522's BRT project is about to enter that stage of the process, and the plans are becoming much clearer thanks to secondary coverage and the amount of new material coming from ST. SounderBruce 05:32, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- Took your sound advice (see what I did there!) and added the material to Kirkland, Washington for now. Maybe when there's more information and the plans are less fluid, it can be built out. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Bri: I'll clean it up and integrate it with some more detail about general transit in Kirkland, but I think this is the way forward until the project develops further. FYI, the use of a capitalized "Station" is no longer allowed per WP:USSTATION (where there's always a fight about this sort of thing). I'll start setting up navigation/browse templates based on the preliminary names here soon. SounderBruce 02:49, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sure. I'll keep logging sources in the userspace draft as I come across them. I hope they don't use "Bothell" station for one of the three Bothell stations (four if you count Canyon Park). Also, Kirkland stations are inconsistent -- why not "Downtown Kirkland" if they have a "Totem Lake"? ☆ Bri (talk) 03:00, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sound Transit isn't exactly known for having good, consistent names (two Shoreline stations, three Universities, and two 130ths), which is why I don't want to pull the trigger and create a dozen BRT station articles. I think it's safe to create articles for some of the existing transit centers, but only if they're backed up by solid references that point to notability beyond merely existing. SounderBruce 03:03, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Bri: Actually, I think we can safely wait until Sound Transit announces its new branding for the two BRT lines (which is in the works) before putting up any articles. SounderBruce 03:09, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sound Transit isn't exactly known for having good, consistent names (two Shoreline stations, three Universities, and two 130ths), which is why I don't want to pull the trigger and create a dozen BRT station articles. I think it's safe to create articles for some of the existing transit centers, but only if they're backed up by solid references that point to notability beyond merely existing. SounderBruce 03:03, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sure. I'll keep logging sources in the userspace draft as I come across them. I hope they don't use "Bothell" station for one of the three Bothell stations (four if you count Canyon Park). Also, Kirkland stations are inconsistent -- why not "Downtown Kirkland" if they have a "Totem Lake"? ☆ Bri (talk) 03:00, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Bri: I'll clean it up and integrate it with some more detail about general transit in Kirkland, but I think this is the way forward until the project develops further. FYI, the use of a capitalized "Station" is no longer allowed per WP:USSTATION (where there's always a fight about this sort of thing). I'll start setting up navigation/browse templates based on the preliminary names here soon. SounderBruce 02:49, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Took your sound advice (see what I did there!) and added the material to Kirkland, Washington for now. Maybe when there's more information and the plans are less fluid, it can be built out. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- I'd rather wait and see what exactly gets nailed down. If transit research has taught me anything, it's that the ballot plans are never anywhere close to the final product; I think the best time to set up the articles would be after the first round of scoping meetings. SR 522's BRT project is about to enter that stage of the process, and the plans are becoming much clearer thanks to secondary coverage and the amount of new material coming from ST. SounderBruce 05:32, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
- Uh, you don't think a 300 million dollar project is notable? We have lots of proposed infrastructure articles, why not this one? ☆ Bri (talk) 05:27, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
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Hey, I just wanted to thank you for doing such a great job with the FC Cincinnati stadium article, as well as congratulate you on the well-earned DYK. In particular, the Planning section is fantastic—you've done an excellent job of taking what has felt like (at least for us here in Cincy) an endless process, and condensing it into just a few concise paragraphs (not to mention the nice map). Great work and congrats! –IagoQnsi (talk) 03:03, 14 June 2018 (UTC) |
- @IagoQnsi: Thanks and welcome to the league. SounderBruce 04:24, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
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Benton County Route 12
I see you replaced the shield I added with the template County Route Shield, but that isn't the shield that the route uses. The route uses this shield. Shouldn't it display the correct shield on the major intersections list? Howpper (talk) 23:53, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Howpper: The shield was replaced by Imzadi1979 when applying the regular {{jct}} template. The custom shield would need to be introduced into the template.
- Also, I don't think the county route meets the notability standard for a standalone article, so please consider looking into the project standards for county route lists. SounderBruce 00:03, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2018 July newsletter
The third round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:
Courcelles, a first time contestant, with 1756 points, a tally built largely on 27 GAs related to the Olympics
Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three GAs on natural history and astronomy topics
SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with a variety of submissions related to transport in the state of Washington
Contestants managed 7 featured articles, 4 featured lists, 120 good articles, 1 good topic, 124 DYK entries, 15 ITN entries, and 132 good article reviews. Over the course of the competition, contestants have completed 458 GA reviews, in comparison to 244 good articles submitted for review and promoted. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process; several submissions, particularly in abstruse or technical areas, have needed additional work to make them completely verifiable.
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