User talk:Tim1357/Archive 5
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IMDB
Hi Tim, we have started tagging IMDB sourced BLPS with a specific IMDB sourcing template. would you be interested in doing a specific Bot message to the authors? ϢereSpielChequers 09:40, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- You might have to give me some more detail than that. What is the name of the template? Where are there discussions about this? Other then those questions the task sounds doable. I will be glad to help you out. Tim1357 talk 02:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
DASHBot
How do you make your bot do a task? Or does he do it on his own? Like take a look here » I want all the reviews moved to the "reception" section on the Jane Doe (album) article. • GunMetal Angel 00:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Im going to do them sometime soon. I need a good 2 or 3 hours that I can sit and watch the bot. Otherwise I am afraid to let it go unchecked. Tim1357 talk 02:31, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Wiziq discussion
Hi Tim,
I wrote a response to the prod for the Wiziq page which I wrote a few days ago.
My comments are on the Talk:Wiziq page.
Jjjjjjjjjj (talk) 02:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Abusefilter
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Barnstar_of_Reversion2.png)
You've done excellent work with the abusefilter Tim, its much appreciated. Prodego talk 02:23, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Signature Restrictions
Hello. I am new to wikipedia and was wondering what the Signature restrictions were so I can create a signature. Good bye. --99.235.182.199 (talk) 22:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Signatures gives some guidelines on a proper signature. I am unsure however, if anonymous users can have personalized signatures (at least, the signatures that are generated by using ~~~~). Good luck, and ask any/all other questions you have! Tim1357 talk 22:54, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. Also I forgot to sign in, so that IP is me. Good bye and have a good one. --Cpt.Z (talk) 01:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
turned off a bot related to a picture
The picture was related to an article I was working on. I've since moved the article into public space so I turned off the bot. NRavenel (talk) 02:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Wiki Project unreferenced BLPS
Hello, I was told to add the likely notability of each unreferenced BLP on the figure skating notability page Wikipedia:WikiProject Figure Skating/Unreferenced BLPs. I spent a lot of time going though it and adding the likely notability of each person next to their name. People find this useful so they can start finding references for the skaters who are definitely notable as opposed to ones that may end up being deleted in an AfD anyway. My main concern is that your bot, while updating the page, undid all of my notes. Is there a way to update the page by adding and removing athletes without deleting all the text to the right of the people's name, and can you revert the text next to these athletes names. If not how should I go about doing what I was asked to do so it is compatible with this bot. Thanks --MATThematical (talk) 01:48, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- What other projects have done is run two lists - Australia, Rugby union, Cricket, Japan, football all have the automated-only-names list, as well as a manually updated annotated list. I don't have easy access to the links at the moment (I'm editing on my mobile), but you should be able to find them by searching around the project pages. The bot is working so well now on almost 500 projects I really don't think we should risk making such a potentially complicated change.The-Pope (talk) 03:54, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- For some examples see:
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/DashBot unreferenced BLPs vs Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/Unreferenced BLPs
- Wikipedia:WikiProject_Japan/Unreferenced_BLPs vs Wikipedia:JA/BIO#Unreferenced_BLPs
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union articles/Unreferenced BLPs vs Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Unreferenced BLPs
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket articles/Unreferenced BLPs vs Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Unreferenced BLPs
- Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Unreferenced_BLPs/Full_list vs Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Unreferenced_BLPs
- You could move your annotated list to Wikipedia:WikiProject Figure Skating/Unreferenced BLPs by notability or similar, but you'll have to work out a way of keeping the lists more or less alligned - the list compare tool in WP:AWB is very good for small scale comparisons - it just gets slow for big comparisons, so were better off leaving that to the bot on the toolserver. The-Pope (talk) 05:43, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good solution. While I'm not quite a new comer, I am still in the process of learning the more savvy editing tricks. Is there a way to get access to the code from a previous version of a page without reverting the edit and then changing it back. I guess in the BLP case the bot would change it back anyway if I were to revert it to get access to the old code, but I figure there is a slicker way of doing this (that is less intrusive). Comparing two edits only seems to give access to the code of the differences. --MATThematical (talk) 17:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Go into the article history, click the page you want and then click edit i.e. this. Then if you are running Windows for savvy editing tricks you can select by pressing Ctrl-A to select all, Ctrl-C to copy. Create the new page you want and paste with Ctrl-V. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good solution. While I'm not quite a new comer, I am still in the process of learning the more savvy editing tricks. Is there a way to get access to the code from a previous version of a page without reverting the edit and then changing it back. I guess in the BLP case the bot would change it back anyway if I were to revert it to get access to the old code, but I figure there is a slicker way of doing this (that is less intrusive). Comparing two edits only seems to give access to the code of the differences. --MATThematical (talk) 17:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- For some examples see:
DASHbot
I just noticed DASHbot csd tagging an image that had already been tagged. Thought you might like to know. rʨanaɢ (talk) 05:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
- To tell you the truth I have no idea what went wrong. -1 for me. If this doesn't happen again I'm not to concerned about it.
Tim1357 talk 01:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I don't think it's a problem either, just a curiosity :) rʨanaɢ (talk) 02:41, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Bot
Please turn off the bot and restore the image for page Play On Tour. There is nothing wrong with the usage of image File:CUPlAYON.jpg and it is used correctly under non-free usage. Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Artyem95 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
- No Artyem, the image is not being used anywhere, as shown at File:CUPlAYON.jpg#File links. rʨanaɢ (talk) 14:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
- Ditto Rjanag Tim1357 talk 01:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
List of IMDB only BLPs
Tim, I think this is an excellent tool. However, would it be possible to produce the list as a list of Wikilinks (or URLs) to the pages concerned, so we can get there with just one mouse click? --Kudpung (talk) 02:30, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- Here ya go. [1] Tim1357 talk 02:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
- Brilliant, absolutely brilliant :)
- Do make sure that you publish the existence of this tool everywhere where we BLP people are like to troll. Thanks again for your rapid response.--Kudpung (talk) 01:30, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Unreferenced BLPs
Hi Tim, I've been project tagging some of the unreferenced BLPs without project tags, but I've now thought of an alternate way of looking at this. Would you be able to get me a list of unreferenced BLPs that are not tagged to Wikiproject cricket, but the article contains the word cricket? Thanks ϢereSpielChequers 16:22, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- The only real way to do that is with a database dump scan. These are both slow, and expensive (in terms of tool server resources). In my opinion, using the search function would be quicker and easier. Tim1357 talk 18:30, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
deletion note
Hello, speedy deletion notices on User talk:ProteinBoxBot are welcome. However, this edit was a bit odd... Anyway, I've reverted back to an old version... Cheers, AndrewGNF (talk) 22:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Substituting a template
I saw your note on the talk page for WP:TFD. Is it possible to have your bot substitute a template? I saw the orphan page, but didn't see anything about substitution. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
orphaned photo
Hello Tim1357, DASHBot had requested a deletion of a photo from a Wikipedia draft that is being worked on. Is there an option for the photo to be used in a Wikipedia draft? I look forward in reading your response.
Thank you! Ehudakineah (talk) 04:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Standard process is to use HTML comments <!-- [[image:file.jpg]] --> in userspace, and remove the comments once moved to article space. Josh Parris 07:16, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
DASHbot Problems
The bot keeps repeatedly tagging File:Air Canada Jazz.svg, which is still used in articles, but, for some reason, there is no indication of it on the file page (glitch?) Is there any way to get the bot to stop tagging this particular image? (I've reverted about 5 times) Connormah (talk | contribs) 23:44, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Where is it used? βcommand 00:43, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Connormah, according to the File links section of the file's page, it is not being used in an article. It may be an error of the database, in which case, the file links section will soon be updated. In that case the bot will automatically remove the request for deletion. Tim1357 talk 02:49, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Apologies, I should have specified where it is being used. The page is Air Canada Jazz. Connormah (talk | contribs) 03:17, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, the database does that sometimes. There is nothing that I or the bot can do to detect these weird errors. Sorry that the bot spammed your talk page. Tim1357 talk 22:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Apologies, I should have specified where it is being used. The page is Air Canada Jazz. Connormah (talk | contribs) 03:17, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Connormah, according to the File links section of the file's page, it is not being used in an article. It may be an error of the database, in which case, the file links section will soon be updated. In that case the bot will automatically remove the request for deletion. Tim1357 talk 02:49, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
A belated thank you
The Userpage Shield | ||
For the reverting of vandalism that I took forever for me to notice on my userpage, I award you The Userpage Shield. Spitfire19 (Talk) 03:25, 19 May 2010 (UTC) |
- You're very welcome. Tim1357 talk 22:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Can you stop your bot tagging this image for the time being, it's currently the subject of an RFC and needs to be referred to as part of the discussion, thanks. Exxolon (talk) 14:09, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- The bot is Exclusion Compliant, which means you can tag the page with
{{bots|deny=DASHBot}}
and the bot should leave the file alone. It'd be nice if you could remove the template when the file leaves RFC. Tell me if that does not work. Tim1357 talk 22:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)- Whoops, looks like H3llkn0wz already did. Tim1357 talk 22:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Fair Use Files?
Hi, Tim1357. DASHBot removed an image that I had on my page because "(Removing fair use file(s), per WP:NFCC#9 (Shutoff | Log )) (undo)" Why did it remove the image? [2] The Midna 01:25, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- The bot removed File:Tp.jpg because the file's image page says that it is used under a claim of fair use. Wikipedia's fair use policy says that all non-free files must only be used in the main (article) namespace. That means images used in user/talk pages are not allowed. Tim1357 talk 22:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- May I keep the other two images that I have on my page? The Midna 20:26, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, because both File:Pi-unrolled-720.gif and File:Pi-symbol.svg are not tagged as Fair use images. Tim1357 talk 00:53, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- Okay. Thank you for helping me! The Midna 01:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, because both File:Pi-unrolled-720.gif and File:Pi-symbol.svg are not tagged as Fair use images. Tim1357 talk 00:53, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- May I keep the other two images that I have on my page? The Midna 20:26, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Wayback machine bot
Hey! You had the BRFA for the bot adding archive.com's links for dead urls — what happened to that? Also do you know any other active bot doing this? There's no easy way searching approved bots. Thanks! — Hellknowz ▎talk 18:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Clarify: I meant your previous request that you withdrew (not the current one) and by what happened I mean - were there any problems/issues — as in, is the current request a continuation or a reboot? — Hellknowz ▎talk 18:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- I wrote the old one when I was a pretty novice programmer. I looked at it the other day and none of it was graceful. The new one is a complete rewrite of the bot, with the same goal. Tim1357 talk 18:46, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- How far have you advanced with your current implementation if you don't mind me asking? — Hellknowz ▎talk 19:03, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well, for one thing, the code is readable. Another thing it does is check links asynchronously to make things go faster. Tim1357 talk 19:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- How far have you advanced with your current implementation if you don't mind me asking? — Hellknowz ▎talk 19:03, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- I wrote the old one when I was a pretty novice programmer. I looked at it the other day and none of it was graceful. The new one is a complete rewrite of the bot, with the same goal. Tim1357 talk 18:46, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Hey! Are you still considering WikiBlame as the primary revision checker or will you implement a custom revision checker. — Hellknowz ▎talk 00:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Jonas Episodes
Hi. Your bot directed me to your page because apparently it can't answer any questions, wich I can't understand. Can you please stop it from reverting the color of List of Jonas L.A episodes? It's really unnecessary -70.50.196.129 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:46, 21 May 2010 (UTC).
- I'm sorry, but I can find no instance of my bot ever reverting your edits. Can you give me a bit more context? Tim1357 talk 00:48, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps you meant this reversion? If that is the case, I think you should bring this up on QuasyBoy's talk page -- Tim1357 talk 00:50, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
The bot keeps saying that it can't answer questions. When i reverted the line color of List of Jonas L.A. episodes, simply because I thought it would look better, the bot reverted my edit for no reason. It's not vandalism, and I think the bot made a mistake -70.50.196.129 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:01, 21 May 2010 (UTC).
- According to the article's history, DASHBot has never edited the page. I think you might be confused about who reverted your edit, because it seems that my bot and you have never interacted, except for that you both have left messages on QuasyBoy's talk page. Tim1357 talk 01:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
I did mean QuasyBoy. Sorry, I guess I should have been more specific. The bot (QuasyBoy) said that you are his owner -70.50.196.129 (talk) 01:36, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, I think I see the source of your confusion. QuasyBoy is definitely not a bot, he is a real-life human contributor. However, there is a message on his/her talk page from my only bot, DASHBot.This is the section entitled "Orphaned non-free image File:Infinite.jpg", which was intended to alert QuasyBoy that one of his files up for deletion. Included in that message is a line about how my bot cannot answer his questions about the file's deletion. I would suspect that QuasyBoy will be able to answer your question when he next logs on. I guess my only suggestion is to be patient and wait for him to respond. Tim1357 talk 02:08, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
QuasyBoy said he was a bot, and noted sevral times that could not answer any questions. I left a message on his page, but when he didn't respond I went to your page. If he is really human, why is he avoiding questions? -70.50.196.129 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:34, 21 May 2010 (UTC).
Megafauna man
Hi Tim1357, There's more discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds#Now it's woodpecker categories about the megafauna vandal and your nifty filter. Would mind commenting there, regarding the possibility of adding to the filter, or any other ideas? Thanks, First Light (talk) 20:29, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Images assoc. with pages, being called Orphaned
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mobilicity_logo.jpg was called 'orphaned' when it isn't. It's clearly in use by TWO pages. What's up? AllanVS talk contribs 04:23, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- It seems that the files were orphaned, but then became un-orphaned. The file was added to Michael A. Neuman and added to Mobilicity after DASHBot tagged the image. You'll see that my bot came along and removed the request for deletion after the files were de-orphaned. Tim1357 talk 04:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Because of this, I will revert your shutoff. Tim1357 talk 05:05, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Why is the bot retagging these images ?
Hi - DASHBOT tagged this image for deletion. - File:Sudan_Girl_Guides_Association.png
I then added the Template:Vector version available tag to the file, in which tag it specifically states:
Note: this file will not be deleted for this reason, unless it is explicitly nominated for deletion. Deleting this image might break the “attribution path” for the new SVG image, which breaks licenses such as the GFDL.
DASHBOT subsequently re-tagged this image for deletion - is this correct behaviour ?
I am concerned because there are a whole bunch of these files I converted, and I'd rather not spend the rest of my life reverting tags :)
Or am I misunderstanding something - any advice is welcome - I've not done this type of conversion before, so maybe I missed something ?
update: it's done around 10 of these now, so I've reverted the tags and denied DASHBOT with {{bots|deny=DASHBot}} on those pages until I understand what is correct.
nb: These are all the images to which this query applies:
File:Asociación Nacional de Muchachas Guías de Guatemala.png ;
File:Bahamas Girl Guides Association.png ;
File:Girl Guides Association of Belize.png ;
File:Girl Guides Association of Dominica.png ;
File:Girl Guides Association of Grenada.png ;
File:Girl Guides Association of Kiribati.png ;
File:Girl Guides Association of Saint Lucia.png ;
File:Girl Guides Association of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines.png ;
File:Malawi Girl Guides Association.png ;
File:Sudan Girl Guides Association.png ;
Thanks. Begoon (talk) 05:20, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
- From what I understand, the file may be deleted if it is a orphaned fairuse image. {{Vector version available}} means that the file will not be deleted because it is a converted version of an old file. It may, however, be deleted for another reason. Tim1357 talk 05:10, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, ok, thanks - I understand (the wording in the template is a bit ambiguous). Do you think it's ok to leave the {{bots|deny=DASHBot}} in until I have time to copy the "attribution path" details to the new files, which should, presumably, then make it "ok" to delete the old ones ? Begoon (talk) 05:16, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, that seems fine. Tim1357 talk 11:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, ok, thanks - I understand (the wording in the template is a bit ambiguous). Do you think it's ok to leave the {{bots|deny=DASHBot}} in until I have time to copy the "attribution path" details to the new files, which should, presumably, then make it "ok" to delete the old ones ? Begoon (talk) 05:16, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- From what I understand, the file may be deleted if it is a orphaned fairuse image. {{Vector version available}} means that the file will not be deleted because it is a converted version of an old file. It may, however, be deleted for another reason. Tim1357 talk 05:10, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
How?
I notice that this edit by a particular user was Tagged as adding an e-mail address, but I couldn't find a single @ symbol on the page! mechamind90 07:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- I am not an admin so I can't see that page (it has been deleted). Additionally, I am just about to depart on a week long trip. Therefore I suggest you bring this report to the false positive page, where other Edit Filter managers can help you. Cheers, Tim1357 talk 11:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
QuasyBoys Talk Page
Is there any way you can alert QuasyBoy that I have a message for him? Thanks -74.12.2.76 (talk) 13:22, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- Is there any way you can properly sign your posts, use Edit Summaries, and create an account? Thanks! — Jeff G. ツ 04:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
BAGBot: Your bot request DASHBot 11
Someone has marked Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DASHBot 11 as needing your input. Please visit that page to reply to the requests. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 11:17, 25 May 2010 (UTC) To opt out of these notifications, place {{bots|optout=operatorassistanceneeded}} anywhere on this page.
Bot Removed Image from my draft
Hello, your bot recently removed an image from my draft article. The image was MY property, and was uploaded for use in the article, which is still a draft right now. Please let me know how this can be avoided. Well, time to go deal with h4xors. (Warning is on my talk page) --ANowlin: talk 22:33, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Responded on Anowlin's talk page. Tim1357 talk 23:12, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
BAGBot: Your bot request DASHBot 12
Someone has marked Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DASHBot 12 as needing your input. Please visit that page to reply to the requests. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 11:18, 25 May 2010 (UTC) To opt out of these notifications, place {{bots|optout=operatorassistanceneeded}} anywhere on this page.
DASHBot bot flag missing?
Did DASHBot misplace its bot flag (it's small and easy to lose; I understand!)? Its User page indicates that it should have a flag but its edits do not have one. ElKevbo (talk) 06:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- Nope, it still has it's flag (see here). Which edits are you referring to when you say that the bot is editing without it's flag? With some edits, the bot's actions are meant to be seen in the watch-list, and are therefore purposefully not flagged. Tim1357 talk 11:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Image SarpyCoNE.jpg
The bot tagged this image. When I originally uploaded it I wasn't aware that there was already a higher quality image available. It can be deleted at any time. Thanks --Brianmcfa (talk) 23:23, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- Cool, I changed the tag to {{db-user}} on the File's page for you. Tim1357 talk 01:12, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Barnstar for you
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The Barnstar of Diligence | |
Thanks so much for all the good work you are doing putting infoboxes on articles... Johnfos (talk) 03:07, 29 May 2010 (UTC) |
Replied on Johnfos' talk page. Tim1357 talk 03:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
To free, or not to free?
Hello Tim1357. I've noticed that your BOT had removed one of the images I have placed on my user-page. I've looked up the image, File:Nerds_box.jpg, and written beneath it is "This image has been (or is hereby) released into the public domain by its creator, SCEhardt. This applies worldwide". It also says it it "may qualify as fair use under United States copyright law" On the page which the bot sent me, I am the only one to featre an image with these tags on my userpage. The other offenders had posted obviously Copyrighted images such as the Ugly Betty Logo which is NOT fair use according to the description. I've never had any problems like this and am not sure exactaly of the rules. --iPEEfreely555 05:33, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Non-free image removal
As of now, your bot that removes non-free images does so just by adding a colon to the beginning of it. However, this does rather unsightly things to the article, especially when the image had parameters. Since you already add a comment to the end of the line, is there any chance you could modify your bot to just comment out the full image link instead? Thanks. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 02:13, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I had trouble figuring which would be the politest way to remove an image from a user/talk page. One method i considered was to replace the image with File:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg. Do you have any suggestions for when to use <!--html comments-->, when to use colons, and when to use File:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg? I'd be glad to implement your suggestions. Tim1357 talk 10:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think the colon is ever a good idea, actually. Because, even if there aren't any parameters, turning an image into a link could easily get it lost in the article somewhere. I wasn't aware of that image existing, so maybe it'd just be best to replace all non-free images with that one, instead. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 19:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I had trouble figuring which would be the politest way to remove an image from a user/talk page. One method i considered was to replace the image with File:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg. Do you have any suggestions for when to use <!--html comments-->, when to use colons, and when to use File:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg? I'd be glad to implement your suggestions. Tim1357 talk 10:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Redirects in navboxes
Hi there, I haven't come to say that DASHBot is erring, only that it could have done this edit better. When fixing the redirect, it produced a wiki link exactly the same as the display text, in this case it should use an unpiped link. Thanks, 117Avenue (talk) 03:45, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
DASHbot over-enthusiastic?
First of all, thanks for the highly useful "Bypassing redirects in navboxes" job your bot is doing! However, I think that changing a link to a section link ([3]) is not very helpful -- it does not have the desired effect of bolding the link and has a higher risk of breaking if the section header is changed. Cheers --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 07:32, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- But that's what the redirect points to, so in the event that a section header changes, something will break somewhere in any case. Originally, the bot did not include section headers, but there were instances where the section header was required in order to make the link useful/relevant. Tim1357 talk 11:10, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right there. I still think it makes the markup somewhat awkward, but if it is required in some cases, that can't be helped. Thanks anyway. ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 07:20, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
DASH... sometimes a little to over-the-top
Hi, the bot removed [[File:Tecumseh high school ohio logo.gif]] from my userpage. The file in question is the logo for the high school I attended. First of all, I drew the image and uploaded it a while back. Secondly, we're talking about use of "I went to this high school" which does not detract or defame the school. Thirdly, we're talking about a friggin public high school and could care less and I KNOW does not hold any kind of ofrmal copyright on the logo or anything else. You know, the more I write this, the more I think I should just change the (c) status of the image. What do you think?--WaxonWaxov (talk) 10:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps add
{{bots|deny=DASHBot}}
to the page where the bot has been removing the image. I have to find out what to do when the image in question falls under two licensees. Tim1357 talk 10:51, 1 June 2010 (UTC)- I believe that permission is then needed from both licensees, permission from just one leaves the other's rights unaffected. Note also that, if the image is just a reproduction (e.g. scaned, traced, or drawn without artistic input) of the school's artwork rather than an original rendition of the logo, WaxonWaxov may have minimal or no copyright interest in the picture. But ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions if you want opinions from people who have a better chance of knowing about that sort of stuff. Anomie⚔ 12:24, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Templates and redirects
There is a slight problem regarding the renaming/standardisation of the WikiProject Templates that others are doing - it seems to be causing the DASHBot lists some problems. I've been updating the DASHBot list to match the new template names, but see History of Wikipedia:WikiProject Ohio/Unreferenced BLPs and Eurovision for examples of the drop-off and slow recovery of the lists. I'm not sure if it's related to the job-queue delay, or if there is something in DASHBot's code that makes it slow to recognise which articles are linked to a redirect to the new template name. I've asked Xeno to stop moving the template names until we work out what the issue is? Thanks. The-Pope (talk) 15:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- It seems there was only one redirect on the page. What is it you want me to change? Tim1357 talk 01:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- The problem is that the DASHBot list does not detect all articles linked to old template names, after templates are moved. Explaining it step by step is as follows:
- The DASHBot/WikiProject/Templates list ("the list") is all correct, no redirects listed.
- Someone changes a non-standard template to be standardised.
- DASHBot continues to use the old template name, and AFAIK, now only lists articles with the exact old template name, not any redirects or the new template name.(numbers may drop, depending on how many pages use which old template name)
- Someone notices that the list is using a redirect, so changes the list to match the new template
- DASHBot now picks up all articles that use the new template name, but not all articles that use the old template name, which is now a redirect to the new template name. (numbers may drop, depending on how many pages use the new template name)
- Over the next few days/weeks(?), more and more articles that use the old template name are picked up by DASHBot... but how long will it take?
- The problem is that the DASHBot list does not detect all articles linked to old template names, after templates are moved. Explaining it step by step is as follows:
For a really simple case, see [SCUBA It only had the one article, Stephanie Schwabe, which is still unreferenced, but when the template was changed from {{WPSCUBA}} to {{WikiProject Scuba}} and I changed the link on the list, DASHBot "lost" the article, and now almost a week later still hasn't found the article that is on the old template name. Unless there is some setting missing in the DASHBot code to look at all articles connected to all redirects, I think don't think it's a Bot problem, but a Wiki problem. It may be related to the job queue, it may be a bug... I don't know. Other than just confirming that the Bot is looking at the named template and all of it's redirects, then I think we just have to wait. I wonder if doing a dummy edit to the templates can prompt an update?The-Pope (talk) 11:35, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
A|A links
While fixing this[4] redirect, dashbot left an A|A style link in place. Can the code be changed so this doesn't happen? --JD554 (talk) 14:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Question about the "F5 Bot function"
When looking for whether an image is used in an article or not, does this just look in the "File links" section or does it check the "Special:WhatLinksHere" or equivalent? I'm wondering because of some unfolding drama involving images being used as a references for articles (such as File:Poe 1908May29.gif in George Poe; it's a PD file but I'm curious about what would happen if there are non-free images in the same situation. VernoWhitney (talk) 22:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Aren't the "File links" section and the Special:Whatlinkshere page (with everything but image-links hidden) the same information? All I know is that I use the
imagelinks
table when doing the SQL query. I'm not sure which page that table corresponds to. Tim1357 talk 22:45, 2 June 2010 (UTC)- They are the same, I was asking about it just being regularly linked and not image-linked, but your answer made sense to me. Thanks! VernoWhitney (talk) 22:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
DASHBot tagging non-orphaned images
It seems your bot tagged three Tintin covers as orphaned but as far as I can see they are still in use in their respective articles even though nothing shows up in their respective file links section. This is in reference to the cover images used in the articles The Seven Crystal Balls, Red Rackham's Treasure and The Secret of the Unicorn. If you click the images you see the message left by your bot.--Sus scrofa (talk) 08:08, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- This is starting to frustrate me. The bot works using the "File links" section of the page. If the file is not displayed to be used in an article, it is tagged. The mediawiki software should keep the File links section more up to date than it has been. I am considering opening a bugzilla report for this, because there is honestly nothing I can think of to work around this. Tim1357 talk 03:55, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Small Disambiguation Pages
I just stumbled upon User:DASHBot/Small Disambiguation Pages and I think it will be very useful. However a random sample of pages show that they have 2 entries, not fewer than 2 entries, so are generally valid. If you could tweak the next run so that dab pages with 0 or 1 link(s) show up that would be great. If the page has (disambiguation) in the title then identifying those with 2 or fewer entries would be helpful (per WP:2DAB). Thanks. Tassedethe (talk) 09:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Wildcard cat UBLP search
Tim1357, I've been going through some of the big UBLP lists generated each day by your DASHBot, such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Sports and games/Unreferenced BLPs, to see how many are listed in more specific WikiProjects. In this case, there are about 1400 articles not in any specific sport wikiproject. I found a bunch of archery, field hockey and handball players were unreferenced, but none of those sports have their own WikiProject, so neither the template nor the category method is available for use. I wasn't sure if the wildcard category method worked only on cats on the talk page or also on the main page. Would it be possible to have an extra parameter such as |usemainspacecats=yes to make the bot search article space categories, not talk page categories? I don't want to break it for the wildcard cats that currently work OK, but without seeing the bot's code it's hard to work out why it didn't find anything in these cases. With the wildcard cat search, is it case sensitive? Will the * at the beginning and end mean that it will only find words in the middle, not at the beginning or end of the cats? For now I'm generating the lists myself manually using WP:AWB. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 12:05, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- Basically, when the bot is given a category name with a * in it, it changes the * to a & and changes the SQL search method from = to LIKE. I believe, when using LIKE, all queries become case insensitive. In any case, I am prepared to make a method to search through the article's categories instead of their corresponding talk pages. If you come up with a system of marking the lists that this should be done on, I can work to make it happen. Keep me updated. Tim1357 talk 22:29, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- In case it helps, MySQL 5.0 Reference Manual - B.5.5.1. Case Sensitivity in String Searches has examples of how you can use COLLATE with various character sets to get case sensitive/insensitive results. Begoon (talk) 23:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I've labelled the three lists that need this with a |usearticlecats=yes parameter in the template. Hope you can do something with it. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 13:01, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll get to this in a bit. Thanks! Tim1357 talk 11:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Done It now works. Tim1357 talk 01:54, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot, it works great... now where else can I use the method...The-Pope (talk) 11:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll get to this in a bit. Thanks! Tim1357 talk 11:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I've labelled the three lists that need this with a |usearticlecats=yes parameter in the template. Hope you can do something with it. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 13:01, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
- In case it helps, MySQL 5.0 Reference Manual - B.5.5.1. Case Sensitivity in String Searches has examples of how you can use COLLATE with various character sets to get case sensitive/insensitive results. Begoon (talk) 23:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Tim, are you sure that this is still working? The ones you updated last week haven't changed since. I've also tried to add some new ones but they haven't been updated. Can single sided wildcards be used? I tried setting up Jersey* to avoid getting New Jersey articles too. If you have any other ideas, feel free to update it. Thanks, The-Pope (talk) 12:18, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- Ill babysit it when it runs tonight to see what's up. Tim1357 talk 20:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- A small error in the crontab file. Should work when it runs tonight. Tim1357 talk 22:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Ill babysit it when it runs tonight to see what's up. Tim1357 talk 20:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Redirects in templates
Re this edit. I thought the bot would be intelligent enough to understand that the [[Article1|Article1]] are the same and would change it to simply [[Article1]]. Any way to smarten it up? Renata (talk) 11:10, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, that has already been brought up actually. I think just a simple regex find and replace will work.
Find: \[\[\s?(.*?)\s?|\s?\1\s?\]\]
Replace with: \[\[\1\]\]
- I'll implement that fix tonight. Thanks for the heads up! Tim1357 talk 11:14, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- FYI, it's still doing this (in case you thought you had fixed it). Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 21:19, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Placement of Delete notice
Dashbot placed a Delete notice on this image shortly after a vandal removed the image from the Prue Halliwell article. It seems that this is against WP:PRESERVE, since nobody checks to see why the image was removed. I caught this purely by accident, so it makes me wonder how many files have been deleted without checking why they were removed from articles? Are we certain that this is proper usage of this bot?
— Paine (Ellsworth's Climax) 06:24, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes there are these cases, and unfortunately there is no way for anybody (human or bot) to detect them. Our best defense are the teams of people fighting vandalism, and hope that they restore the file to a page. When this happen, the bot will come along and remove the request for deletion (within an hour or so). Can you suggest any way that the bot can be smarter about this? Tim1357 talk 10:45, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- It doesn't seem right to me to have a bot do things like this. Have the bot detect an orphan image, that's okay. But to also let the bot indiscriminately set the image up for deletion without checking why the image was removed from an article? This seems very wrong to me. Once the bot detects an orphan image, rather than slapping a delete template on the image, follow WP:PRESERVE and make an attempt to save the image. You might have the bot place the orphaned image in a category of "orphaned fair-use images" that will key category watchers to investigate?
- — Paine (Ellsworth's Climax) 21:46, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I just re-looked at the policy, and it looks as though your bot is working to policy. So it would require a policy change to do what I suggested. So you're right, Tim, our best defense are the vandalism fighters.
- — Paine (Ellsworth's Climax) 21:53, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes there are these cases, and unfortunately there is no way for anybody (human or bot) to detect them. Our best defense are the teams of people fighting vandalism, and hope that they restore the file to a page. When this happen, the bot will come along and remove the request for deletion (within an hour or so). Can you suggest any way that the bot can be smarter about this? Tim1357 talk 10:45, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Are these bot edits on your main account?
What is going on here? Anomie⚔ 04:23, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- Semi-automated. Pywikipedia has a function to update pages asynchronously, which means I can approve a large list of edits , and then pywikipedia updates the pages in rapid succession. In this case, I did about 800 pages using this technique. I wrote my script to prompt me with this type of message:
>>>Talk:The Brave Archer<<< This article has {{Infobox Chinese Film}}. Diff: - |needs-infobox=yes + Update the page? ([Y]es, [N]o)
- You can see that it is pretty quick for me to make a decisions using this information. Basically, if the Infobox is present, and it is only removing the |needs-infobox parameter, it is appropriate. If you are uncomfortable with this method of editing, I will gladly choose some other system. This was just the fastest and easiest for me. Tim1357 talk 13:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
- There was some concern brought up privately that you were running an unauthorized bot on your main account, and rather than let others run off to WP:ANI or whatever with hasty assumptions, I just asked you about it. Your explanation satisfies me, and except for the asynchronous nature is about what I do when I make script-assisted edits. Does your script make sure that the pages in question haven't changed between the time you approve the edit and the time the script is about to perform it? Does your script give any context lines in the diff?
- In the future, I suggest including the text "script-assisted edit" in the edit summary, maybe linked to a subpage in your userspace explaining your process, to help head off this sort of issue.
- There was also concern that you denied Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Infobox Bot in part based on insufficient discussion on the wikiproject's talk page but then performed the edits yourself. But if the concerned parties want to pursue that, I'll let them do it directly as my only concern was with the possible unauthorized bot activity. Anomie⚔ 22:48, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
- There were safeguards to make sure there were no edit conflicts. Additonally, the only context given in the diff's was the line where the change was happening. Ill keep the edits synchronous from now on, and add some sort of indicator to my edit summaries.
- In regards to Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Infobox Bot, I denied primarily because User:FinalRapture is an admitted sock of John245. I reported this to an admin on IRC (for the life of me I can't remember who), who then reported to #wikipedia-en-admins. The admins there decided that they would monitor F.Rapture before they made any action to block.
- The consensus issue for the task was not as big an issue for me, as a similar bot was already approved.
- Finally, I'd hope that the concerned parties would talk to me here on my talk page before bringing this to WP:ANI, as I feel ANI is a place for conflicts wherein one party is not listening/cooperating. I believe in people being able to talk things out, without the need of a third party. It is, of course, completely up to them. Tim1357 talk 00:19, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- It was closer to 1500 edits in total, In some cases up to 30 edits in a single minute. My concern is that the bot should have been on a flagged account to minimise unnecessary clutter in recent changes, you of all people should know this is one of the reasons bots are flagged in the first place. My reason for saying this specifically about your bot is that you pre-approved the edits and it then did them in rapid succession, newsletter bots are flagged because they act this way. Lastly, please err on the side of caution against using scapegoat reasons (such as lack of community consensus for a task) to further justify a deny reason when you personally think it's not a big issue, if the operator is questionable, just say it. To say the task hasn't got consensus and then to do it yourself is really pathetic. «l| Promethean ™|l» (talk) 04:48, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- A quick query on the database shows that it was 1025 edits in total, so you're right: I was a conservative with my estimate. I agree with you that my actions were, well, stupid. Seeing annother user deny a bot due to a lack of consensus, and continue to do the task himself would get me angry as well. I should have been clear about my concerns, which did not include the lack of consensus. I got frustrated that this obviously helpful and harmless task got stopped by an unrelated, operator issue. Rather than going through the proper, albeit cumbersome channels, I decided it would be better for me to power them out myself. I'm going to take a break from this form of semi-automated edits, due to the temptation to do these botty tasks, instead of using an approved bot account. Tim1357 talk 01:00, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- It was closer to 1500 edits in total, In some cases up to 30 edits in a single minute. My concern is that the bot should have been on a flagged account to minimise unnecessary clutter in recent changes, you of all people should know this is one of the reasons bots are flagged in the first place. My reason for saying this specifically about your bot is that you pre-approved the edits and it then did them in rapid succession, newsletter bots are flagged because they act this way. Lastly, please err on the side of caution against using scapegoat reasons (such as lack of community consensus for a task) to further justify a deny reason when you personally think it's not a big issue, if the operator is questionable, just say it. To say the task hasn't got consensus and then to do it yourself is really pathetic. «l| Promethean ™|l» (talk) 04:48, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Someone's Blaming Me
None of these things reported on my page by the bots are to do with me... I can only assume that somebody else is signing things with my username. I've had a few "password reset/request" type e-mails since September 2006 up until 2010 (and ongoing); so I presume that someone wants my username. So anyway, if you have some kind of issue with something that you think I've done, please bear in mind, that I might not have done it. Most seem to be uploads of images for electronic music. I have not uploaded anything on wikipedia for maybe 7 years; so, you know, how do I deal with this "spam"? User:Macdaddy
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DASHBot causing issues with redirects in navboxes
I stopped the bot because of this edit and several others like it. Not all redirects in navboxes are a bad thing. Often, a redirect is created as a placeholder for a future distinct article. Take the case of 2010 Michigan State Spartans football team or Weber State Wildcats. Both represent valid topics that could have their own article, but haven't yet been spun off into enough discrete content of their own to merit a separate article. It's highly likely that these articles will be created soon, but for now, they make sense as redirects. In these cases, the redirect link is desirable, because once the article gets fleshed out, we don't want the original link to still be pointing to some section of a different article like Michigan State Spartans football#Future schedules, and it's going to take a lot of work to go through and address all of the wikilinks that got "fixed" by the bot. DeFaultRyan 16:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- I concur. On Template:Supernovae, DASHBot was used to change the link Exotic star to Compact star#Exotic stars. However, this appears to contradict the WP:NOTBROKEN policy.—RJH (talk) 22:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
- I see your point DeFaultRyan, I will not fix any redirects that redirect to sections. Tim1357 talk 22:36, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Unreferenced BLPs
Hi Tim, I've noticed that a lot of articles are being stickyprodded without people bothering to tag them as unreferencedBLPs. Does Dashbot still pick these articles up and report them to projects along with other unreferenced BLPs? The template used is {{dated prod blp}}, if Dashbot doesn't recognise it it would be great if it could do so, if it does then there might no longer be a need to tag these articles with both tags. ϢereSpielChequers 16:09, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
- Or you could add Category:All unreferenced BLPs to {{dated prod blp}}, so that it might add the category to whichever article it is used on. Tim1357 talk 22:39, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Dashbot
Hey, i noticed that someone shut off Dashbot, I dunno if you knew that or not, and if it was supposed to be off or not. They seem to have got a few warnings from them DASHBot, and maybe they were annoyed. Dunno. Pilif12p's Sock : Yo 20:31, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, I responded to the user and reverted the shutoff. Thanks! Tim1357 talk 22:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Canadian Forces Rank and Insignia discussion page
Good afternoon, I have noticed that DASHbot has taken away the right to display the CF ranks and insignia's that I have displayed on the discussion page. I am not contesting the reason, however, I do not understand why it is acceptable on the article page to use the image, and not on the discussion page, on a discussion on how to change the article starting on 11 June 2010 at 0955 PST. Thank you kindly for any answer you may provide me and good day to you. Ctjj.stevenson (talk) 21:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has a pretty strict Fair use policy. According to the policy, all fair use images must be used in only articles. Fair use images generally include logos, movie posters, book covers, ect. I suggest using a link to the file, or a placeholder image on the talk page, because you cannot actually use the image. Sorry, Tim1357 talk 22:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Union Carbide
Hi, Your bot has deleted the logo of Union Carbide. I guess it is a mistake. Pls, check and restore. BR, Lamro (talk) 07:51, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- My bot is not an adminbot, which means it cannot actually delete an image. Instead, however, it can tag an image for deletion. In this case, the image still exists (here) but is still tagged for deletion because it is not currently used in any articles (see the File links section of the file's page). If it becomes used in an article once again, the bot will automatically remove the request for deletion itself. Alternatively, you can re-add the image to Union Carbide, and remove the tag yourself. Tim1357 talk 22:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Dashbot not using Bot flag
Hi - I noticed in my watchlist that dashbot doesn't get hidden regardless of options show/hide bot edits. It appears dashbot is not using the bot flags for it's edits - e.g. here. Can you take a look. Thanks. 7 23:58, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, thats intentional. When the bot messages a user, it does not use its bot flag because using the bot flag would mean that the Orange "New message" bar would not appear. Tim1357 talk 22:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
AlbumBot?
Hi Tim, it's me again with my regular inquiry about when you expect to restart the AlbumBot? I am sorry to be pestering you with this again and again, and yes, I know about WP:NODEADLINE, but I am worried that if we leave this for much longer people will have forgotten about the decision to move the album reviews out of the infobox and we will have to start the discussion all over again. It was already long and painful the first time around. Cheers. – IbLeo(talk) 04:34, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
breaking non-spaces
Hi,
Unless can give a very good reason for removing breaking non-spaces (​), please stop doing so. I used them at Banksia brownii to give the browser more layout option for a long url in a small box, and you removed them.[5]
Hesperian 00:29, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Dashbot images
Hi, I just want to confirm that the images File:TheManIsDeadTheJezabels.jpg & File:ShesSoHardTheJezabels.jpg will no longer be deleted now that I have used them in articles, correct?? WideAwakeInTheStarFire (talk) Tim1357 talk
- Yep. In fact, the bot has already removed both requests for deletion ([6] and [7]). Tim1357 talk 22:03, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
DASHBot
DASHBot appears to have inadvertently perpetuated an incidence of redirect vandalism. If you maintain detailed logs, determine where all the bot replaced "associative thinking" and "magical thinking" with "religion". — C M B J 10:33, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Can you give me an example diff? That is rather worrisome. Tim1357 talk 13:40, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Here's where I noticed it. Perhaps future recurrences can be avoided by telling the bot to only deal with redirects that have been in place for a minimum of X days. — C M B J 20:52, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, that is troubling. Nobody at the BRFA for this task raised a concern about this, but I still feel somewhat silly for not considering this. Unfortunately I have since deleted the logs to save space (Damn toolserver disk quota!). I can't really think of an easy way to retroactively scan for these mistakes. In fact, the only way I can think of doing this is to wait for a full db dump to be completed, so I can scan it for similar mess-ups. That might take a while, because the last reliable dump is from March or something. Tim1357 talk 21:23, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Because all BAG does now is approve each others bots. Q T C 23:39, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Go through the bot's contribs in the Template namespace for the time period in question? Anomie⚔ 21:56, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thats 26039 edits to go through! Tim1357 talk 22:01, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- You could make a script to download all of the contributions into a single plain text file, and then use grep to filter through those entries. — C M B J 22:07, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thats 26039 edits to go through! Tim1357 talk 22:01, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, that is troubling. Nobody at the BRFA for this task raised a concern about this, but I still feel somewhat silly for not considering this. Unfortunately I have since deleted the logs to save space (Damn toolserver disk quota!). I can't really think of an easy way to retroactively scan for these mistakes. In fact, the only way I can think of doing this is to wait for a full db dump to be completed, so I can scan it for similar mess-ups. That might take a while, because the last reliable dump is from March or something. Tim1357 talk 21:23, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Here's where I noticed it. Perhaps future recurrences can be avoided by telling the bot to only deal with redirects that have been in place for a minimum of X days. — C M B J 20:52, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
I was thinking Dump scan because I could compare the links that the bot updated to a list of redirects. For each redirect that the bot scans, the script could check the list of redirects to see if it is still a redirect. Those that aren't would be logged, and can be dealt with by humans (me). Tim1357 talk 22:10, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan then. Given what has been learned from this incident, we should probably also make note of how to prevent it from happening at Wikipedia:Bot policy#Configuration tips. I'm thinking something along the lines of "Bots which deal with replacing internal links (such as double redirects) should check to verify that their source information has been stable for at least 48 hours." — C M B J 22:38, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- I made a proposal here. — C M B J 23:14, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
DASHBot Malfunction
Hi. I noticed that DASHBot was run on Washington, D.C. and Congress Hall. In each instance, the bot marked a few reference links as dead but when I checked the URLs, they came up fine. I thought it may have just been a fluke on the D.C. page, but then when it did it again on Congress Hall, I decided to let you know in case there's an issue. Best, epicAdam(talk) 23:59, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, this is similar to the problem risen below. The websites appear to be alive when viewed using a web browser, but return 404 when viewed using a script. I think I have a somewhat hackish solution to the problem, and I'll work on implementing it so that this thing doesn't happen again. As for now, however, the Dead link task has been halted. Thanks for the info! Tim1357 talk 03:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
DASHbot shouldn't label NYT archives as deadlinks!
DASHbot is labelling links to the pre-1981 New York Times archives as "deadlinks". See many occurrences of this happening to the Mike Gravel article with this DASHbot edit, for example. This action is really misguided, in my view. The pre-1981 NYT archives, indicated by the select.nytimes.com URL aren't "dead", they are just behind a paywall (but are available to all subscribers and home delivery recipients). These archive NYT stories are heavily used in historical articles in WP. They aren't dead! They just aren't free online. There's a big difference. DASHbot should leave them alone. Thanks ... Wasted Time R (talk) 02:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Grr. I hate when websites do this. When I go to the nytimes.com site, it appears to be alive, but when I use python's urlopener, I get error 404. I think this must be by design, because no other website that I have encountered does this. I added nytimes.com to the bot's URL whitelist, so it will assume all nytimes.com links are alive. Thanks for this catch. Tim1357 talk 03:31, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
A note regarding Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Approved
Remember that the template should only be substed when the bot is already flagged. When a bot is not yet flagged, do not subst the template as you did for User:Luasóg bot here. Thanks. Anomie⚔ 02:54, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll keep that in mind. Tim1357 talk 03:02, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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Addition of irrelevant archive URLs
Hi, your bot made rather strange edits to "Feng Tianwei". It correctly identified five dead links, but then added an irrelevant archive URL to three of them:
- Olympics: Singapore enter women's table-tennis team final, Channel NewsAsia, 15 August 2008, archived from the original on August 22, 2008, retrieved 15 August 2008
{{citation}}
: Unknown parameter|deadurl=
ignored (|url-status=
suggested) (help); - Marc Lim (16 August 2008), "At last! S'pore assured of at least a silver after 48-year wait", The Straits Times, p. 1
{{citation}}
:|archive-url=
requires|url=
(help); Unknown parameter|deadurl=
ignored (|url-status=
suggested) (help); - Leonard Thomas (16 August 2008), "A new Olympic heroine: First medal since 1960", Today, pp. 1 & 3, archived from the original on August 22, 2008
{{citation}}
: Unknown parameter|deadurl=
ignored (|url-status=
suggested) (help).
— Cheers, JackLee –talk– 07:50, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Wow, that sucks. In my testing, I hadn't come across a citation system that puts more than one {{citation}} template in a reference. It is easy enough to fix, but I am unsure of how I can easily go back through the edits to see if this happened anytime else. This might merit downloading all the bot's edits, and somehow retroactively checking for errors. Or, do you think other editors will be able to catch them? Probably good if I do the former. Thanks for your vigilance. Tim1357 talk 23:01, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. Thanks. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 07:06, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- Wow, that sucks. In my testing, I hadn't come across a citation system that puts more than one {{citation}} template in a reference. It is easy enough to fix, but I am unsure of how I can easily go back through the edits to see if this happened anytime else. This might merit downloading all the bot's edits, and somehow retroactively checking for errors. Or, do you think other editors will be able to catch them? Probably good if I do the former. Thanks for your vigilance. Tim1357 talk 23:01, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
DASHBot adding archive links to articles that already have them
DASHBot is adding Wayback Machine links to references that are already archived. Presumably it is programmed to recognise only archiveurl fields in templates and just ignores manually formatted references? Bradley0110 (talk) 17:33, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, another thing: Can you program it to recognise when an article uses dmy format? Bradley0110 (talk) 17:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- I concur with Bradley0110's last comment. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 17:45, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- This seems similar to Jacklee's concern. Can you paste a link to the diff you saw here, so I can see what you mean in more detail? Tim1357 talk 23:02, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- This is one example. Notice how the bot ignores the Wayback link in the reference to the London Screenwriters' Workshop and adds a duplicate. The date format issue can be seen in both the LSW reference and the new Wayback link in the Manchester Evening News reference. Bradley0110 (talk) 18:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, no, the LSW reference hasn't been duplicated; DASHbot ignores the existing Wayback and labels the whole thing "dead". I'll find another example with the duplicate. Bradley0110 (talk) 18:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- OK, see here for the duplicate issue. Notice also how it duplicates the archived links to Sendit.com. Bradley0110 (talk) 18:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, no, the LSW reference hasn't been duplicated; DASHbot ignores the existing Wayback and labels the whole thing "dead". I'll find another example with the duplicate. Bradley0110 (talk) 18:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- This is one example. Notice how the bot ignores the Wayback link in the reference to the London Screenwriters' Workshop and adds a duplicate. The date format issue can be seen in both the LSW reference and the new Wayback link in the Manchester Evening News reference. Bradley0110 (talk) 18:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- This seems similar to Jacklee's concern. Can you paste a link to the diff you saw here, so I can see what you mean in more detail? Tim1357 talk 23:02, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- I concur with Bradley0110's last comment. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 17:45, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Cool, I'll add that to the list of things to fix, and the things to retroactively scan for. Tim1357 talk 01:06, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
DASHBOT and The artist formally known as "Love Symbol #2"
Tim, please see User talk:DashBot#The artist formally known as "Love Symbol #2" I had earlier assumed you had that page on your watchlist. However, I noticed your instructions at the top of the page to post here. Greg L (talk) 22:05, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Replied on DASHBot's talk page. Tim1357 talk 22:41, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
DASHBot altering ISBN
Hi Tim, On June 13, DASHBot made some genfix edits to Ender's Game (diff here). Among these, it altered an ISBN to include hyphens...but unfortunately the ISBN was part of an image name, so it broke the image link. Would there be any easy way for the bot to make sure it doesn't edit image names in this way? I just thought I'd let you know, although I'm aware it's probably too rare of an occurrence to be worth the amount of work it would take. Princess Lirin (talk) 01:45, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Stubs
Hi. You maybe are interested in this edit and thousands similar from my bot, User:Yobot. Stub categories should be applied additionally to proper categorisation because stub tags are more likely to be removed at some point. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:21, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Meker-Fisher burner
Tim, Please see User talk:DASHBot#Meker-Fisher burner Peter Horn User talk 22:50, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Python
Python?? Well Tim, I guess that you mean Python (programming language). Peter Horn User talk 22:58, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Your Bot
Hi,
Just wanted to let you know your bot considered the national coat of arms for a few countries as copyrighted works. I'm looking now to see if there are more appropriate tags for those images. Doc Quintana (talk) 12:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
DASHBot
Hi Tim. I am not sure what to do. DASHBot appears to have tagged and untagged about 99 "dead link"s in Minneapolis. The three I checked were all there in archive.org. Can you please tell me what you intended to do in these edits [8] and [9]? Thanks. -SusanLesch (talk) 21:35, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
- I guess I can ignore your bot and just clean up the mess. You seem to be busy. Take care. -SusanLesch (talk) 01:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- Hi again. It seems to me that your bot has fixed everything (with archiveurl etc.). The few dead links that were left are okay now. Great work! Thanks a million. -SusanLesch (talk) 03:54, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Usearticlecats slow edits
I'm not sure what's happened, but DASHBot is taking hours between edits doing the usearticlecats items. Is it too resource intensive doing these wildcard article category searches, or is there some other reason (something to do with the cron file?), or should I just be more patient?The-Pope (talk) 15:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- Also, as long as it won't make the bot run even slower, could the usearticlecats items be a case intensive search? There are some of words that appear sometimes capitalised at the front of cats Category:Handball players at the 2008 Summer Olympics, but lower case in the by nationality cats. Thanks. The-Pope (talk) 14:57, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
- A third option would be to allow the use of the category tree and have a "userecursivecats" option, so you specify the top level and it looks down the category tree. For how I'm using the usearticlecats at the moment, this would probably be the best option, as it is how I'm using AWB when I make up manual lists. No idea which one is the best/easiest/most resource effective for you. All I can see at the moment is that it seems to be getting slower and slower to do these wildcard cat based tasks.The-Pope (talk) 03:48, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Manisaspor.jpg
This logo, was added by mine, is current logo of Manisaspor (copyrighted to them) since 2008-2009 season after Vestel's withdrawing from sponsorship of Manisaspor. If you want, you look at official site of Manisaspor.
Consequently, this logo mustn't be deleted. Other logo in page of Manisaspor was used by them during their name were Vestel Manisaspor due Vestel's sponsorship between 1985 and 1988 and again between 2000 and 2008. Source of this information is: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/sivritepe/1011/0t.html
Yours sincerely, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cemsentin1 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Web frontend for AI bots
Hi Tim,
May I draw your attention to a web frontend for bots with IRC feeds that I'm developing, you might be interested in integrating the IRC feed from your bot into it...
- [WPCVN] - yet another collaborative (it shows other users actions - patrols and reverts) Web 2.0 RC patrol tool that runs in a browser. It has been tested with Firefox, IE and Google Chrome. Currently operates for en-wiki only in the alpha mode. WPCVN aggregates recent changes IRC feed, IRC feed from the MiszaBot and WPCVN user actions. It also uses pre-calculated Wikipedia users "karma" (based on the recent en-wiki dump analysis) to separate edits made by users with clearly good or bad reputation. The tool is open source (LGPL) and uses JQuery/JQueryUI + Django backend.
--Dc987 (talk) 05:20, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Refresh requested
Could we get a bot refresh on Wikipedia:Mistagged_BLP_cleanup? Thanks. Gigs (talk) 14:37, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Done [10] Tim1357 talk 20:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
- I'm going to set this up to run automatically I think, unless there are any objections. Tim1357 talk 20:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! Should be OK. If someone removes a name from the list without removing the citations or the template, will it relist though? Or will it honor ones that we reviewed and decided to leave as-is? It's not super critical either way. Gigs (talk) 23:57, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
- I'm going to set this up to run automatically I think, unless there are any objections. Tim1357 talk 20:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Kudos
Tim, I thought you might like to know that thanks in large part to DASHBot_5, we are now in compliance (as near as possible) with WP:NFCC #9. See this for more information. Thank you, thank you, THANK you for such fine work on bots. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:04, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! Glad to help. Tim1357 talk 20:57, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Very late reaction on feedback placed on my page
Hi Tim, Your bot -DASHBot placed a message on my talk-page on January 2nd,2010 about an article about a living person that had no references. I added two (reliable) refs and removed the unreferencedBLP from October 2009. If this is not according to Wiki standards (the removing of the unrefBLP tag) just correct me. Thank your bot for warning me, but I was on Wikibreak for some months.... JanT (talk) 19:17, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
- Great work and welcome back!
Tim1357 talk 21:16, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
- Great work and welcome back!
Filter 339
I'm not competent at programming, so if my comment does not make sense, just ignore it. I think what you've called the "gay" filter would consume less resources if the condition
added_lines rlike "\b([Gg][Aa][Yy]|[Hh][Oo][Mm][Oo][Ss][Ee][Xx][Uu][Aa][Ll])\b"
was before the condition
'[[Category:Living people]]' in old_wikitext
because "added_lines rlike" consume less than "in old_wikitext", no? Sole Soul (talk) 19:35, 26 June 2010 (UTC).
- Good idea. I'll change that now and see if that's true. Tim1357 talk 00:30, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Note
Here, shouldn't:
if msg['title'] == 'User:DASHBot/Vandalism': self.reloadregexps()
be:
if msg['title'] == 'User:Tim1357/Bot settings.css': self.reloadregexps()
etc..? Sole Soul (talk) 19:16, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
DASHBot
Hey, I granted DASHBot rollback for it anti-vandalism trial, would it find the reviewer rights useful? That way, if it rolls back an edit on a pending changes protected page, the edit it reverts is disapproved and the bot's edit is accepted. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:37, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
- I just wanted to come by here and say it seems to do a nice job. Good work. Also, your test filter is awesome. Thank you – Tommy [message] 00:46, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Bot deletion too
I recently requested for my user page to be semi-protected due to repeated vandalism, but a bot of yours (or not) seems to be blocking my requests for semi-protection and the request page. I just want to be protected against any malicious activity. Daxdigital (talk) 18:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. I can't seen to find an instance of this happening. Can you provide a link to the page where this is happening? Tim1357 talk 14:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Bot deleting
Your bot deleted Abc32newsat10.jpg saying it was orphaned, but it was clearly being used by WNCF. It also did that to Mlsplayoffs.jpg, even thought it was being used by MLS Cup Playoffs. Whats the deal? Revzzz (talk) 23:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- My bot is not an adminbot, so it cannot actually delete anything. However, it seemes that an admin deleted File:Abc32newsat10.jpg because it was lacking a fair use rational. The second image, Mlsplayoffs.jpg, was deleted because it was not being used in any article, and had not been for 7 days. Tim1357 talk 22:58, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Subtle differences
Hi. There are subtle differences between these three pairs of files.
- File:Can Navy shoulder VAdm.png & File:Can Navy shoulder VAdm2.png
- File:Can Navy shoulder RAdm.png & File:Can Navy shoulder RAdm2.png
- File:Can Navy shoulder Cdre.png & File:Can Navy shoulder Cdre2.png
I'm trying to determine if the differences are important, and if so, which ones are "right", and which ones are "wrong".
Your bot has correctly identified that only one of each pair is currently in use.
I agree that one of each pair needs to be deleted.
The current problem is, I don't yet know which ones.
When I have so determined, I will place "{{db-g7}}" on the others.
In the interim, if you don't mind, I'll remove your bot's tags. Are you OK with that plan?
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
- Is there some way you or I can stop your bot looking at those 3 files? Pdfpdf (talk) 15:21, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
- While this may be a bit late, you can. Place {{bots|deny=DASHBot}} on the page. The bot respects this template, and will not edit any page that has this string on it (except, of course, to revert vandalism). Tim1357 talk 14:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Is there some way you or I can stop your bot looking at those 3 files? Pdfpdf (talk) 15:21, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
PBSKIDS
DASHBot: wrong deadlinks
I just corrected two deadlink tags added by DASHBot to very much alive websites, on Candy Shop and Confessions on a Dance Floor after which I turned it off to be on the safe side. They were both from two weeks ago (13 June 2010). I had a look at changes list around that time and unfortunately the bot was very busy creating dead links, all of which seemed wrong to me. Seems like there will be a lot of work undoing it all, let me know if I can help. --Muhandes (talk) 08:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, that was an error that happened a few times. It is not a huge deal, but I am working on a way to fix it. The reason is that a few websites (mtv.com, nytimes.com) regect the python user agent by raising an error 404. This means that any time I use a script to test the links, they appear to be dead while they really aren´t. I could fake a user agent (make the bot appear like Safari, Google Chrome, or Mozilla Firefox) but that seems to me to be a bit sneaky. Anyways, thanks for your vigelance and your patience. I´l ping you if I come up with a solution. --Tim1357 talk 22:36, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Reply to the DASHBot Recieved
I just found that the image File:Asin Pokkiri.jpg which was uploaded by me was orphaned and removed from the article with out any genuine reason. I included all the details and suitable copyright tags already in the image summary when I uploaded it and I also quoted the reason to include the image in the article. I re-added the image. The most interesting fact is that the image was removed by a user because he felt the image as strange. (talk) 13:16, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Mass tag of R from shortcut
Hrm, looks like I just missed you. I replied to your post here. And just wanted you to know that I fully support that task. I just wish I could've seen that earlier, my watchlist is so clogged it's backed up for weeks! I really need to do a major clean of it but it would take too long and a total wipe would be too drastic (I don't want to risk losing some of the older pages I watchlisted.. so was wondering, do you know of any scripts or tools that organize the pages on my watchlist according to the date of *MY* last edit to them? But anyways I'm rambling on..) So apparently all the members at WikiProject Redirect have stopped paying attention to it (in fact this general project-wide apathy towards Maintenance WikiProjects really disappoints me, but, yet again I digress..) so I'm hoping that when you return, if you'll consider resubmitting your bot request and letting me know about it on my talk page? Thanks. I better get some sleep now.. this coffee is terrible! ;) -- Ϫ 18:26, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Re: Orphaned non-free media (File:Somersault_logomark_and_logotype.gif)
Tim: I'm writing because a bot turned off the logo I uploaded. I don't understand why. I work for Somersault and have the necessary authorization to upload it.
I have also written to Melesse the following message. Melesse: The Somersault logo that I uploaded is not intended to be orphaned. It is connected to the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikiloonwater/Somersault_Group that I've written in my User space. I'm new at this and thought I was following instructions by first creating the article in my User space, then ask an editor for approval to move it into the Main space. Can you do that? Thanks. Wikiloonwater (talk) 02:50, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
All I'd like to do is properly write this article and post it with the logo. But I'm getting more confused. Can you help me? Thanks. Wikiloonwater (talk) 11:13, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, even though you are writing the article, you must wait to upload the article until it has been moved to the main. The policy on 'non-free' content is pretty strict, and there are no exceptions made for user-space drafts. When you are ready, leave me a message here and I'll move it for you, and get an admin to undelete the image for you. Sorry about this. Tim1357 talk 14:14, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Re: Orphaned non-free image File:Colton Harris-Moore.jpg
Hi! I got the following message from your bot about an image I uploaded. The bot said that it was going to delete the image because it was an orphaned image and not being used in any articles, but the image is currently being used in Colton Harris-Moore and that is clearly evident in the 'file links' subsection of the image description, as well as by going to the article itself. So I shut off your bot because it most definitely isn't working properly. WTF? (talk) 06:39, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
The Message
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- Hey WTF, the second bullet point in the message says that the bot will remove the request for deletion if/when the image is used in the article space once again. The bot did so here. Hope that clears things up. Tim1357 talk 22:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. However, the image is currently orphaned again because of an eager Wikilawyer eager to impose his view on things. It would help if the image wasn't automatically deleted by a bot while the dispute is occurring. WTF? (talk) 01:14, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- The bot is not an admin, therefore it cannot delete the image. It places the request for deletion and an checks back every hour to see if the image is still orphaned. After 7 days, if the image is still orphaned, an admin or adminbot can delete the image. Tim1357 talk 14:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Hello Tim. Currently 99% of edits to the main space will be tested against the condition "old_wikitext rlike" including very long pages. Adding an "Old page size" condition (say: Old page size < 200 ) will make the filter skip most of the edits before that. Sole Soul (talk) 15:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- I agree, I dont like the filter very much, but I added your suggestion. Tim1357 talk 18:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- A legitimnate question was asked abou the details of this edit to the filter at Wikipedia talk:Edit filter#Filter 342, namely why you used added_lines and old_wikitext (the match for added_lines is removed_lines, and the match for old_wikitext is new_wikitext). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:22, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Stupidity. I'm sorry: I don't know how I missed that. Tim1357 talk 14:16, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Talkback
—fetch·comms 21:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Replied there. —fetch·comms 23:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Replied there again. —fetch·comms 00:04, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- And again. —fetch·comms 00:34, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Replied there again. —fetch·comms 00:04, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Filter 320
Your changes to filter 320 prevented all user talk page edits site-wide for 14 minutes. There's a queue at Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports. Thought you should know. -- zzuuzz (talk) 09:50, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Oh shit. I am so so so so sorry. Damn. Tim1357 talk 12:09, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Re: thanks
No problem. I wish I could do things on Wikipedia all day instead of having to go into work. —Soap— 23:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Dashbot question
Why is this being treated by your bot as non-free? It looks fine, but I don't speak images very well. Hobit (talk) 14:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
- It was tagged as non free. Because it is no longer, the bot should not treat it as such anymore. Tim1357 talk 19:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'd looked at the history and didn't think it was tagged as non-free the day the report happened. Guess I missed something. Hobit (talk) 23:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Jim Newman BLP
Hi. I got a message from your bot telling me I had started a page with a biography of a living person. The "Jim Newman" page I created years ago was for the astronaut. Now it seems to point to an actor I'm not familiar with, and there isn't a pointer to a Jim Newman disambiguation page. Your bot asks me to update references on this page, which would not be appropriate for me to do. SkyDot (talk) 04:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Somebody had changed the subject of your article. I think I've got it fixed now and Jim Newman is now a dab page with the astronaut one of the links. Sorry for any inconvenience, and thanks for bringing this to our attention. ϢereSpielChequers 15:39, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
New Dashbot run plz
Hi Tim, I know we discussed in the past doing a repeat of January's Dashbot run to authors of uBLPs. The hickup we hit before was agreeing where to point queries to, We've now created Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons/Authors of uBLPs for this and if you are still willing would like to do a run to the authors of uBLPs. ϢereSpielChequers 15:12, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Sure. I have to re-run the query when I get home, so itll be 2+ weeks. Cheers. Tim1357 talk 17:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Done ~8000 users messaged. Poke me again when you want another run. Tim1357 talk 17:11, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks Tim, that's brilliant. You mentioned that these 8,000 were authors who hadn't had a message before, but there have only been about 8,000 additional articles tagged as uBLPs since the last run.... and it only took 14,400 messages last time when we had nearly twice as many uBLPs. Would you mind checking your code there as I know some editors have done multiple uBLPs. The people I'm keenest to get messages to are the ones who responded to the last message by referencing their old articles, but for whom we've found some more. Could you check they were in the run? Ta ϢereSpielChequers 19:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Dashbot warning
Hi Tim, I shut-off Dashbot because it told me a file that I uploaded was orphaned, but I was not the one who uploaded the file I just reverted some vandalism on it. Check my talk page for the message if you need it. Regards, Bobby122 Contact Me (C) 16:01, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, thats by design. Technically, because you reverted to the previous version of the image, you are the most recent uploader. This is because oftentime, the newest versions are diffrent from the old. In your case, it is identical, but the bot (and the mediawiki software) label you as the uploader. Tim1357 talk 19:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
AI engine on CSD pages
Instead of cluttering up AN, I figured it'd be easier to ask you here. I'm now intrigued about your vandal-page identification routine. I'm curious any details you'd be willing to share about what you're working on. I might be interested in doing something similar. Shadowjams (talk) 18:34, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Ok. I am using the CRM114_(program) baysian filter engine. This engine is what popular email clients use to dynamically filter spam. I tried using this engine with parsing for vandalism edits, but passing differences in text is not what the engine was designed for, so it worked poorer than I had hoped. It was good, but not good enough to be trusted with a revert button. Since the program is written in C, and I am most comfortable in Python, I used a wrapper to interface to it. What was the "something simillar" that you were planning? Tim1357 talk 18:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. I'm interested in doing something similar with some projects I've been working on in perl, and thankfully, there's a wrapper for that too. The something similar are programs that flag for recent changes that are possible introductions of factual errors. While that program works on the diffs (including redline and blackline portions; I don't think edit filter can do that), I'm interested in extending it more broadly. While that might not have a direct application to what I'm doing (like you said, diffs are too small sometimes) I'd like to tinker with one. Shadowjams (talk) 21:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Ok. I am using the CRM114_(program) baysian filter engine. This engine is what popular email clients use to dynamically filter spam. I tried using this engine with parsing for vandalism edits, but passing differences in text is not what the engine was designed for, so it worked poorer than I had hoped. It was good, but not good enough to be trusted with a revert button. Since the program is written in C, and I am most comfortable in Python, I used a wrapper to interface to it. What was the "something simillar" that you were planning? Tim1357 talk 18:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Question
Was wondering if you could make this File:KSMJ logo2.gif a redirect? The image is still on there for some reason. The image is on File:KSMJ logo.jpg, so this should be a redirect to that, I'm guessing. If you could do that, then that would be cool. If there was something I messed up on, let me know. Just think it should be a redirect, since this is the same image. Thanks. (JoeCool950 (talk) 22:25, 21 July 2010 (UTC))
- It seems the image has been deleted. Hopefully thats good for you. Cheers, --Tim1357 talk 22:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Merge discussion for Manfred_Mann
An article that you have been involved in editing, Manfred_Mann , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. KoshVorlonNaluboutes,Aeria Gloris 17:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
- One minor, automated edit almost a year ago does not qualify me to discuss merging this article. Tim1357 talk 22:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Strange results in unreferenced BLP run
Hi, yesterday's run on Wikiproject India's unreferenced BLP list has dropped nearly 500 articles. They are still unreferenced, but somehow dashbot has missed them.--Sodabottle (talk) 03:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, that is weird. As I am away from my main computer right now, I cannot do much to fix it. However, I checked the bots log for this task and it appears there was no error on my end. It could have been some weird, random error on the database side. Ill keep my eye on that page, but my guess is that the page will fix itself tonight. Thanks for the heades up, Tim1357 talk 08:54, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
- It occurs when the project's template is moved - in this case from {{WP India}} to {{WikiProject India}}. It can take up to a week to be fixed - see Bodybuilding, Football, BBCPhillipines etc for other occurrences. No idea why it happens .The-Pope (talk) 12:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
- In any case, there is nothing that I can do to fix it at the moment. Tim1357 talk 21:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- It occurs when the project's template is moved - in this case from {{WP India}} to {{WikiProject India}}. It can take up to a week to be fixed - see Bodybuilding, Football, BBCPhillipines etc for other occurrences. No idea why it happens .The-Pope (talk) 12:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
xeno-shell
Could I bother you for the code used to generate http://toolserver.org/~tim1357/Static/xeno-shell ? Thanks! –xenotalk 04:18, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- I actually never saved it, so I threw this together. Its slow, so be patient. Ping me w questions. --Tim1357 talk 23:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- D'oh =) I have toolserver access now (yay), so I was going to run it =], but if you've already set it going that's cool. Thanks! –xenotalk 23:58, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I havent started it, but I can. Ill let it run through tonight and check on it tomorrow morning. --Tim1357 talk 00:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Did it stall out? –xenotalk 20:15, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- I havent started it, but I can. Ill let it run through tonight and check on it tomorrow morning. --Tim1357 talk 00:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- D'oh =) I have toolserver access now (yay), so I was going to run it =], but if you've already set it going that's cool. Thanks! –xenotalk 23:58, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- I actually never saved it, so I threw this together. Its slow, so be patient. Ping me w questions. --Tim1357 talk 23:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh, yea it did. Restarted it with error logging turned on, so I can see what happened. Tim1357 talk 13:43, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Dashbot keeps alerting me that the File:Braggin' in Brass.jpg is orphaned but it is in use in the above article HELP!!! DISEman (talk) 05:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yea, that happens sometimes. There isnt anything I can do to prevent this error, as it is on the databases end of things. However, I have reverted the bots tagging action, and forced the bot to ignore this file by adding a {{bots}} template. Cheers, Tim1357 talk 22:47, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
software logo on user page in userbox
hi your bot removed an image from my userpage which was not a draft or a talkpage. it is part of a userbox. i could be mistaken but i thought that it could be used in conjunction with identification purposes, based on the licensing for that image currently used on the software's article. i removed the tag. hope that won't be a problem.
Designsbyd (talk • global contribs • email) 11:12, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Dashbot run to Projects
Hi Tim, we have an interesting little report at Wikipedia:Database reports/Living people on EN wiki who are dead on other wikis. I was wondering if you could use the bot and tables you use to tell projects about uBLPs, to also tell them about any of these that are relevant. I'd be happy to supply a talkpage for the queries. ϢereSpielChequers 15:25, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Great idea. I'll play around with that tonight. --Tim1357 talk 22:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I ran it last night, and it appears 22 wikirojects got alerts that a uBLP may be dead. (See this for an example). Now that I have the concept down, what do you want for a format? Tim1357 talk 13:31, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks Tim. I think it would need to be a separate page to the uBLPs as most of these articles are not actually unreferenced. I would suggest a /Death anomalies subpage with a note to the project talkpage the first time there is a hit. If so I'd be happy to draft some wordings and to say the bot is doing it at my request - so hopefully the feedback comes my way not yours. ϢereSpielChequers 17:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- I ran it last night, and it appears 22 wikirojects got alerts that a uBLP may be dead. (See this for an example). Now that I have the concept down, what do you want for a format? Tim1357 talk 13:31, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Code
Im working on a python based wikitext tool, and I know you have the code from Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DASHBot 11 for tagging links in text as dead. (Im not looking for archived copies just the ability to tag them as dead) If you could lend me a hand I give you my thanks. ΔT The only constant 00:22, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Which bits did you need? Tim1357 talk 16:59, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
- basically the parts that look for dead links and adds {{dead link}}. ΔT The only constant 18:17, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
How do You Make a Bot?
Hi, How do you make a bot? Can you make one for me please? Regards, Beamer103 21:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beamer103 (talk • contribs)
- Well, it depends on what you want to do with your bot. I suggest taking a look at AWB, a program that requires no computer programming skills. Alternatively, you could leave a message at WP:BOTREQ to see if you can get someone to write your bot for you. However, before running a bot, you must get approval from the bot approvals group by filing a request at WP:BRFA. Good luck-- Tim1357 talk 17:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
psp
i feel that the link http://pspportals.freeiz.com/ should be added to the psp page as this website is a custom homebrew for the psp but every time it is added immediately it has been removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liamallan (talk • contribs) 09:38, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hey Liam, I'm glad you've taken an interest in improving wikipedia's articles on Sony's Play Station Portable. Your link, it seems, does not appear to meet what is laid out at WP:EL. If I were you, I would try and improve wikpeida's resources on the PSP in other ways. A good place to start would be to take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games, to see what is on their to-do list. Thanks, and message me with any other questions you may have, Tim1357 talk 13:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
I approve.
Wikipedia should always have at least two regular anti-vandal bots running so that if one goes down, the other can continue.
- But I notice there have been no level 5 reports yet in the contributions. Is it programmed to report to AIV/TB2? mechamind90 02:04, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes it is, but each time that it was appropriate to, there have been little bugs that make the bot abort the reporting process. Tim1357 talk 22:27, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
P.S. - Is there a particular reason that DASHBot only posts once at a time on a user's talk page about non-free images? I think it's a higher priority reminder than that of SineBot. I think DASHBot should be permitted to post the non-free reminder more than once. mechamind90 03:07, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, because I personally would be annoyed to hell if a stupid bot left me 15 messages about how I wasn't supposed to put that fair-use logo in my userspace draft. Tim1357 talk 22:27, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Re: Orphaned non-free image File:333 Green Jelly.jpg and File:Saltsweatsugar.jpg
DASHBot reported that my images File:333 Green Jelly.jpg and File:Saltsweatsugar.jpg are currently orphaned, but, to this date, they are still beng used in the 333 (album) and Bleed American (song) articles respectively. I don't know why it lists them as orphaned if they're still in use in said articles? What's going on?Gen. Quon (talk) 16:27, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- This file was removed (essentially) from 333 (album) when a user caused an error in the infobox. [11].
- The bot tagged it as orphaned, as it was not actually being displayed on the album article.
- The image was restored to the album's article 2 days later when another user reverted the errant edit that removed the image in the first place.
- The bot removed the orphaned tag, 1 hour after the image was restored in the article. Tim1357 talk 22:37, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- This file was removed from the article Bleed American (song), thereby becoming orphaned.
- The bot tagged it as such.
- The file was restored to the aforementioned article.
- The bot removed the request for deletion.
Hope that clears things up. Tim1357 talk 22:38, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
My non-free image is used in an ANI that is not yet closed
I did not turn off your bot but I do want to suggest a slight change to its programming, if possible. I took a screenshot of a Google-ad-filled page of a commercial website as part of a debate about whether or not the site shows ads. If you agree this is a legitimate use for a non-free image, maybe you could ask your bot to check ANIs as well as article space to see if an image is in use? betsythedevine (talk) 11:32, 17 August 2010 (UTC)\
- To keep the bot away while the discussion is being carried out, put
- OK thanks, I did exactly that. I have another question -- would I be able to host the link on my userpage or is that against policy? The image is a screencapture of a page that did not have an assertion of copyright anywhere on it. betsythedevine (talk) 16:45, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'd ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions if I were you. They know their copyright stuff pretty well. Tim1357 talk 16:50, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Typo in bot's edit summary
Hi, just thought I'd point out that DASHBot's edit summary here (and likely in all similar notifications) contained a typo. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 00:07, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Fixed (Thanks). Tim1357 talk 19:28, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Something that should probably be fixed.
DASHBot notified a user not to add any non-free images to their own userpage when actually someone else added it. The message should probably be changed (as it might not have been to a user's own space where they added non-free images) and the user to notify should probably be the one who adds the image. mechamind90 05:23, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
- While I don't right now have the time to change the bot to notify the adding user, changing the message is much easier. You can change the message any way you'd like. The message template is here. Thanks, Tim1357 talk 03:13, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
re: Apologies
No problem at all.--BelindaEdgeworth (talk) 10:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Citing
HELLO!! Hey, thanks to have signalised me the problem with the page... I have now cited a page from the Rome's University where Enrico Arbarello works. It is ok or should I cite a different and (to say the truth) a more reliable source?? Thanks Danieldoz (talk) 14:58, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Danieldoz, thanks for adding that. University sites are useful for confirming that an academic really exists, but we would also like third party references - not all academics are notable, but if he is being discussed in journals etc then that would establish his notability. So I've amended the tag to reflect that we have a primary source. ϢereSpielChequers 15:59, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Picture Deletion
Hi, I am new to using Wikipedia and I thought that I had correctly followed the steps to add a picture. Apparently I haven't, so I would like to ask you if you would be willing to tell the correct steps to follow as I do not completely understand why my picture is deleted. There is a photograph from the same series of books already registered in the Wikipedia files so I would assume just from that alone that the photo by Drew Struzan would be acceptable, if it really isn't could you please also explain why? Thank You. I mean all of these sentences with respect so please do not take it the wrong way. ;)Morphingsmurf (talk) 16:40, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sure. This particular image (File:Personnage-ferus-olin-2.jpg) is what we call a fair use image. That means that it is not released under a free licensee, but we use it because it qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Because we are using it with "fair use", we must obey a few restrictions on the image (see Wikipedia:Non-free content). One of those restrictions requires that the image must be used in (and only in) articles. As your image is not used in any article, it is listed for deletion. Once it is used in an article, the bot will automatically remove the request for deletion. Therefore, I'd try and find a suitable place to put that Image, in the article-space. Hope that clears things up. Tim1357 talk 03:09, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Does that still count even if the article is still being written? Because I have not added links and everything else yet because I am not finished writing the article. peace Morphingsmurf (talk) 23:02, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Re: Stop letting your bot edit my user page
Tim1357, in the future can you please do not edit my user page??!!! I know you DASHBot did it, but I've put a notice in the bottom of my user page stating that you can look at it, and I don't want anyone editing it. I will revert the edits if anyone edits my user page. Understand? Thanks. -> Challisrussia (talk) 17:45, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) The bot is editing your page because you are displaying a non-free image (that is probably replaceable) therein. –xenotalk 16:46, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Will work on Mike Padden article
Your bot brought to my attention that the Mike Padden article has not source cited; I will remedy this as quickly as I can, I promise. Thank you. ProfessorPaul (talk) 22:49, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Awesome. Thanks for taking the time. Tim1357 talk 03:03, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Zihuatanejo
I saw some strange behavior here. The bot reverted an edit on the 18th. I still saw the old version on the 19th. I edited the page, and saved it with no change. Then I saw it correctly, but there is no record of my edit. Any ideas what's going on? BollyJeff || talk 02:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Hey Tim. I really like this new tool. However, I wanted to see if it counted redirects of something, so I tested with {{WPCALIFORNIA}}
. It gave me a message saying "{{WPCALIFORNIA}}
redirects to {{WikiProject California}}
, {{WikiProject California}}
used instead." Does this mean it included uses of WPCALIFORNIA? I'm just curious. Also, you might want to change the link's color that directs people to your talk page for bug/feedback report. The unclicked link color almost blends in perfectly with the background box's color. One more thing I noticed was that it took ~35 seconds for it to load recent changes for articles using {{BLP}}
on the talk page. That seems like quite a large difference to the ~5 seconds it takes for WP California. Killiondude (talk) 06:45, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hey Killiondude. Thanks so much for taking some time to respond to my plea for feedback.
- When you received that message, all template redirects were included in the query.
- I will get on changing the link color right now (I didn't notice it before because the link displays as purple for me).
- Really large projects take a long time to return results, but I found a different query that will work better.
- Thanks, and all other feedback is greatly appreciated. Tim1357 talk 14:45, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Killiondude, I have a second query that works well for really big wikiprojects . Just append
&q=2
to the url and it will use the new query. Here is the watch list for {{BLP}} using the new query. Tim1357 talk 17:03, 23 August 2010 (UTC)- Neat! That's much faster, thanks. Killiondude (talk) 23:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Killiondude, I have a second query that works well for really big wikiprojects . Just append
Toolserver tool security issues
tswiki:Tool considerations#Security explains some of this. --MZMcBride (talk) 06:48, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed and thanks. Tim1357 talk 14:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Another one: http://toolserver.org/~tim1357/cgi-bin/wikiproject_watchlist.py?template=;Brandon+sucks --MZMcBride (talk) 06:16, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Barnstar
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What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar | |
For making the WikiProject Watchlist tool. This will be brilliant for projects. Mr.Kennedy1 talk 14:26, 23 August 2010 (UTC) |
PS. Im helping out with the lists and spreading it around for each WikiProject. Mr.Kennedy1 talk 14:26, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm glad you like it. Tim1357 talk 22:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Fantastic contribution! LunarLander // talk // 02:41, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject Watchlist
Hi Tim, Is it possible to add a watchlist for talk pages tagged with the project template? This will be useful to monitor any discussion that was started on individual talk pages. — Ganeshk (talk) 21:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hope you don't mind me butting in. Tim1357 could probably come up with a better one but I knocked a quick 'talk pages watchlist' for the rugby league project using "Category:WikiProject Rugby league articles" in Related Changes: [12]. I found it was better to use the category rather than the related template. LunarLander // talk // 22:20, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- In any case
Done. Tim1357 talk 22:41, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- In any case
- I found the answer to my question, t=1 parameter. Can you add option to hide bot edits and minor edits? — Ganeshk (talk) 01:12, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Done Tim1357 talk 17:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks Tim! It's an awesome tool. — Ganeshk (talk) 11:55, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- At Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Viewing recent changes to certain articles types DocJames asks if the query could return just the FA-Class or GA-Class articles within that project. Seems like a good idea, but can the tool do it? I suppose that importance=Top or importance=High would be similarly useful. LeadSongDog come howl! 20:14, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Question
Before I upload a few images, I need to know they are allright.
For one, I will be uploading a few from FlickR. They are all copyrighter; however, I have asked each and every one of their authors for permission to upload their images to wikipedia in exchange for citing them. Would that be allright? Here is an example:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fapesa/4381174262/in/faves-50846966@N08/
Would this be cool? Since anyone would be able to see the author stating yes? 1930fwc (talk) 12:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- You need to get the authors of those images to release them under a free license. Here are some of the liscenses that are popular on wikipedia:
- GNU Free Documentation License v1.1, 1.2, 1.3
- Creative Commons Attribution v1.0, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0
- Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike v1.0, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0
- Free Art License v1.2, 1.3
- They can do this directly on flickr, by changing the settings there. Tim1357 talk 19:58, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
A barnstar
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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
For DASHBot which has become a great help to AIV and one of my favorite bots. Materialscientist (talk) 05:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC) |
- Thanks! Tim1357 talk 20:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Did not answer question
I asked you before whether or not the picture deletion still counted even though the article is still being written and I have not yet added links to my article. I would like to point out that the page has not been officially been made into an article on Wikipedia and there are tags on there saying that my page is still in progress and for people to not be in a hurry to delete anything.Morphingsmurf (talk) 14:15, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Dashbot Error Logging link giving an error
Looks like the tool is borked at the moment (server 500 error). I wasn't sure how best to add to the false positives reports in light of that. And in this case I don't think it's a false positive you can fix. The diff is here. The edit DASH reverted was actually just a quote from the movie. As such, it would have been reverted anyway for being unneeded (we try to avoid dialogue quotes in plot summaries if we can) but it definitely wasn't vandalism. And, of course, in 99.99% of all instances where that text would get added, it would be vandalism so I don't know if you can tweak it. But there it is, just in case. If you want me to report this to you in some other way, let me know. I'll tag your page for watching so no need to post a talk back. Millahnna (talk) 05:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, been meaning to get to that and I finally did. Should work now. Tim1357 talk 20:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Rockingham County Schools
Thanks for adding geodata to two of the Rockingham County Schools high schools articles I created/expanded. I believe a third still needs coordinates - John Motley Morehead High School. The New Raymie (t • c) 18:59, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome and I did that last one for you. Tim1357 talk 22:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!
For adding coordinates to so many of the Florida articles. :) --Ebyabe (talk) 20:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome.
Tim1357 talk 21:57, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Uwharrie River edit
I suggest you add the coordinates from the mouth of the Uwharrie River to the Uwharrie River page. In the draft recommendations a river's mouth appears to be the main coordinate for rivers. See this page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Geographical_coordinates/Linear Thank you, Boseidon 23:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boseidon (talk • contribs)
- Ok, cool Tim1357 talk 20:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Dashbot suggestions
The anti-vandalism function of Dashbot is very impressive. Nonetheless, I have a few suggestions that are not a high priority:
- Adding score for replaced (removed) texts, so when "f*ck" is replaced with "fuck" and the replaced word "f*ck" has good score such edit will be ignored.
Done Already. Tim1357 talk 02:42, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Do not revert if the number of consecutive revisions by a user is five or more. The logic is that if a user had made 5 edits without being reverted by a human, there is a good chance he is not a vandal. Example. Sole Soul (talk) 02:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Good Idea. I'm going to read the API manual tonight and then see if I can implement that tomorrow. Tim1357 talk 02:42, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Hey
I edited on your user page if you don't mind. And another thing (just out of curiosity), I would like to know more stuff on how you create user bots and how they are programmed if you have the time. I think it sounds kind of interesting. Jhenderson 777 23:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
There's a request at WP:RFPP for indefinite semi-protection of this page, and I wanted to find out your opinion. On the one hand, there are no useful edits there from IPs or new accounts; on the other, it's a useful vandalism magnet! Regards, BencherliteTalk 18:12, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Tim, just wanted to let you know that I have semi-protected the page due to excess vandalism. If you do not want User:DASHBot/Anti-Vandalism to be semi-protected, please let me know and I'll revert myself immediately. -FASTILY (TALK) 18:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- I couldn't really care one way or the other. Tim1357 talk 20:01, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
"Non-free files in your user space"
"File:Santa Fe F7 300C.jpg" is a non-free image. but the licence says
"This image comes from www.trainweb.com. TrainWeb allows it to be used for any purpose, as long as the text "www.trainweb.com" is printed near the photo or in a photo credits area."
Can I replace the file and use it? Or Am I missing a critical statement?--intelati 05:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've talked to Fastily and s/he agrees with me. DASHBOT has removed the picture twice now.
- BTW the file is File:Santa Fe F7 300C.jpg--intelati 20:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- I dunno about this situation. WP:NFCC says that all non-free media must be used in only articles. Ask at WP:MCQ to see how this applies to user-space drafts. For now you can place the text {{Bots|deny=DASHBot}} on the userpage to keep DASHBot from re-removing the file. Tim1357 talk 20:58, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I remember reading how, but now in times of need I can't find it? Help please?--intelati 21:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks--intelati 21:09, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- I dunno about this situation. WP:NFCC says that all non-free media must be used in only articles. Ask at WP:MCQ to see how this applies to user-space drafts. For now you can place the text {{Bots|deny=DASHBot}} on the userpage to keep DASHBot from re-removing the file. Tim1357 talk 20:58, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Done [14] Tim1357 talk 21:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Nice bot. I'm done with the confusing licsencing stuff though. thanks for your time. --intelati 04:17, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Can't say I'm a fan of the licsencing stuff myself, to tell you the truth. Tim1357 talk 20:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Nice bot. I'm done with the confusing licsencing stuff though. thanks for your time. --intelati 04:17, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
New MDB Feature
Hello! I have just added a new feature to MessageDeliveryBot. It is now possible to have the message delivered on behalf of a WikiProject instead of a specific user. The user who requested the delivery will still be visible in a comment, as well as in the welcome message given to a user if the bot is creating his talk page, however, the bot's edit summary and signature will use the WikiProjects name. To use this new feature, fill in the optional 'WikiProject Name' field when making a request (leave out the Wikipedia: namespace prefix). If this field is left blank, then your username will be used to sign requests, as the bot previously did. Happy editing!
Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of EdoDodo at 16:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC).
WikiProject Watchlist feedback: Albania
Hi Tim, how it going?
Congrats with the WikiProject Watchlist tool. We at WikiProject Albania have had a public watchlist for quite some time now:
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Albania/publicwatchlist - list of articles within the scope (updated once a day by me, with all articles found under Category:WikiProject Albania articles)
- Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject Albania/publicwatchlist - changes to articles
In contrast with your tool, we can see changes to articles and their talk pages at the same time and we can also subscribe to the Atom feed; so we can see the changes without having to fire a web browser, but instead using a feed reader (much more convenient for a guy like me who spends a lot of time in front of the computer; as changes pop-up in my desktop while I might be doing a completely different task than browsing Wikipedia, e.g programming, chatting, watching a film, etc.).
I would like to see these two things implemented in your tool.
Cheers. — Kedaditalk 18:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject Watchlist Feedback: Slovenia
Hi, Tim! A tool like yours has been darely needed by the WikiProject Slovenia for some time now. It will also be a great addition to my private collection of links for watching changes to Slovenia-related articles available at User:Eleassar/SLOMap.
Anyway, I would value very much if you would manage somehow to enable navigation popups in your tool. Otherwise it's better for me to use my own links as they enable me to make quick overview of the changes made without having to actually follow the diffs. I also suggest you adding a link to your talk page to the tool's interface and the ability to hide one's own edits. --Eleassar my talk 19:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Ability to hide one's own edits added. Tim1357 talk 23:18, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Wikiproject Watchlist
A very nice tool to have... One minor thing I'd like to see: a checkbox to display the new articles only. GregorB (talk) 19:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Over?
Did you stop answering my questions just because my picture has already been deleted? I am asking these things so I do not make a mistake like this again. My previous question is listed under "Did not answer question"Morphingsmurf (talk) 00:07, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Terribly sorry for having missed your previous question. In short, Fair-Use policy is something the wikipedia community takes very seriously. There have been proposals (that I support) to allow fair use images in user-space drafts. However, these proposals have been declined. The policy stands that all non-free images must be used in articles, and otherwise deleted. Wait until you finish writing the article before you re-upload the image. Sorry for the inconvenience. Tim1357 talk 00:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, I appreciate itMorphingsmurf (talk) 21:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Re: User:DASHBot
DASHBot's edits were appearing in my watchlist, and generally, almost all bot edits don't appear in watchlists (or at least mine). I was wondering whether this was intended or not. Thanks, SpencerT♦C 01:47, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, there are a few edits that I have the bot do without it's bot tag: such as reverting vandalism and leaving messages on user talk pages. Tim1357 talk 01:50, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying, SpencerT♦C 16:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
DASHBot Anti-Vandalism
The Anti-Vandalism task is missing from User:DASHBot. --UncleDouggie (talk) 09:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject Watchlist Feedback
Tim, Can the tool be made to show changes to project pages, templates and categories too? — Ganeshk (talk) 14:01, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- I tried doing this, but the queries took to long. I'll keep playing around with it, but for the moment it does not look feasible. Tim1357 talk 14:40, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Bot deletion?
A new image was deleted from Reiki article. I understand an olded version of that image had some issue. That images was removed. A new image was up-loaded, which I believe hold the correct details and persmission. But this image was removed as well (02:49, 5 September 2010 DASHBot (talk | contribs) m (68,735 bytes) (Reverting edits identified as vandalism. (settings/false-positives)). I am not sure why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.184.197.222 (talk)
- It seems that the only edit that the bot has done was to revert a case of vandalism. It does not appear that the bot removed any image in doing this. Can you provide a link to the revision when the image was removed? Tim1357 talk 14:44, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Nomination Request
Hello, DashBot. i have a request for you to nominate List of awards and nominations received by Shakira or to help me to out of this problem. This article is really good with good ref. So please help me. Thank you Ashishvats23 (talk), 6 September 2010 (UTC +5:30)
RE:Orphaned non-free image File:Vibram FiveFinger Manual Copyright.jpg
DASHBot's message
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- The image File:Vibram FiveFinger Manual Copyright.jpg is currently being used as a copyright evidence of the Wikipedia page File:Vibram FiveFingers CARE AND CLEANING.jpg, which can be considered as a Wikipedia graphic article, or at least as a part of it since it is included in the Wikipedia article FiveFingers.
- Both pictures come from the same document and it is unlikely to find free images of the same document to replace them. Heathmoor (talk) 15:34, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. I'd leave a message at WP:MCQ but I think the first image is unnecessary. With labels, we can assume that the images of them are copyrighted with all rights reserved. There is no need to prove it. Tim1357 talk 20:10, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
DASHBot warning missing?
In this proper reversion of vandalism [15] to National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, DASHbot does not appear to have put a warning on the editor's talk page: User talk:Georgelopez121. Perhaps this is because no talk page yet exists but it seemed odd, so I thought I'd flag it for you. Thank DASHBot for all the hard work. Regards. Abby Kelleyite (talk) 16:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, interesting. DASHBot's logs don't show an error for that. I can't tell you what happened. I'll look into it but I doubt I will find anything. Tim1357 talk 20:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Wikiproject Watchlist feedback: Military history
This is a pretty neat tool! A couple of suggestions that I think would make it even more useful:
- Right now the tool has "Earliest" and "Latest" modes; what's really missing are "Earlier" and "Later" variants that would let us scroll through multiple consecutive groups of changes. With ~100K articles in our scope, the maximum of 200 changes covers only about an hour's worth of edits.
- Are you tracking articles based only on template transclusion, or can it be done with the presence of a category on the talk page as well? At the moment, it's not possible to use this for our task forces individually, since all of them use the same underlying template; but each task force generates a unique category on the talk page, and it'd be interesting if those could be used to filter the change list.
I'll let you know if we come up with any other ideas; and thanks again for putting this together! Kirill [talk] [prof] 23:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Both are good ideas. I'm working on the first one, and have plans to implement the second later on. Thanks for the feedback. --Tim1357 talk 23:07, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Done with the first. Tim1357 talk 20:43, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Both are good ideas. I'm working on the first one, and have plans to implement the second later on. Thanks for the feedback. --Tim1357 talk 23:07, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
WebCite
What is the status of DASHBot and webcite re. toolserver resources. I want to coordinate so I don't duplicate effort, and make there isn't something I don't know about resource restrictions. --nn123645 (talk) 01:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- I turned off the WebCite querier because the service was always down. Tim1357 talk 01:48, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Dead link recovery
Hey Tim, the bot didn't quite work at Fuel. It processed two working (not dead!!!) urls into webarchive links which don't provide the chart info in question (check the results from history). Also the number of archived links reported on the edit comment is wrong (5 instead of 2). I didn't turn off the bot, since I can't know if this is a special case, but I do think there's a little bug that needs fixing. --Sk4170 (talk) 08:33, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Issues with DashBot
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for your troubles
Your bot recently contacted me about this image being orphaned upon TenPoundHammer removing it from the Christmas (Kenny Rogers album) page. I have protested its removal to TPH, but I also want your opinion on whether the image is still placeable there. My reason for including it was because it's got an identical tracklist to the original, and it was a rerelease fourteen years later with a cover that differs significantly to the original cover in 1981. I personally think TPH was just being bold, but I am thinking he took it a little bit far here. What is your opinion? CycloneGU (talk) 15:55, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
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I just want you to know that it's appreciated that you are involved in starting up WebCiteBOT again. It's going to be a giant leap forward for Wikipedia. -user:Agradman editing as 128.59.179.192 (talk) 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC) |
Need another bot run plz
Hi Tim, any chance of trotting out Dashbot for another major notification run? We have a major copyvio problem involving over 23,000 articles and would like to send messages and create lists for relevant projects and anyone who has edited any of the relevant articles. Discussion is here Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents/CCI#Enlisting_projects_and_other_editors. ϢereSpielChequers 12:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'd be glad to help. Is there a location with more details/ a fuller discussion? If not you need to answer a few questions:
- What are the criteria for someone to be messaged?
- What information should be included in the message?
- Where can I find/make a list of these articles?
Dashbot
Hi Tim - can you take a quick look at this page - I gave a level4IM and dashbot gave a level 1 thereafter. I am thinking that dashbot is not seeing the level4IM in the same way that it would have seen a level4. Thanks. 7 01:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hey 7. The bot did not recognize the <!--uw-biogs--> tag in the message so it assumed the user had not been warned at all. Fixed. Tim1357 talk 02:28, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! 7 03:19, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is HJ Mitchell mass fully protecting templates.
This notice is because you were the one that first initiated this dispute by your ill advised suggestion to WP:RFPP. —Farix (t | c) 13:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)