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Entry for Alan Howard (Nutritionist)[edit]

This is my first biography for Wikipedia. I will first add the basis and then expand on it. Note that the payment received covers the research for the biography and entry of text. I have learnt about Wikipedia in my own time. I am not a professional editor.

Tomp-uk (talk) 15:47, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Alan Howard (Nutritionist) (April 13)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Heliosxeros was:
The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.
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Help me![edit]

I created a new draft with what I now feel is the incorrect title. Please could the draft be deleted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dr_Alan_Howard thanks

Tomp-uk (talk) 10:00, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dr Alan Howard[edit]

Hi Tomp-uk, You have requested your draft creation article to be deleted and I have place a request on the page. If that is notyour intention then pls read the instructions on the box and action accordingly. Thank you -- CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:05, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Alan Howard (Nutritionist)[edit]

Greetings and thank you for taking interest in Wikipedia. Since you are editing a science related article, you should be interested in joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Science. Now, to your submission. Your submission is a BLP, biography of living person. Hence, all of your points, claims must be inclined with citation. This is because, if any factual conflict arrises in the future, your incline citation will act as evidence to defend your points. If not present, some sections might be omitted from the article and other penalties. Yes, your early childhood section is unsourced, and for example, many sections in your "Academic Career" is not cited with inclined citation too. The first lead paragraph isn't. And Early work on atherosclerosis too. 4th and 5th paragraph of Early Work on Obesity are not inclined with citation too. It will be a little troublesome for a BLP because it is a biography of a living person and information must be as accurate and reliable as possible. And if you have any queries pertaining to reliable sources, please read WP:RS. In essence, cite third party sources: mainstream publications, newspapers, magazines or books. Stay away from homepages and official websites. Sources must provided extensive and in-depth coverage, a whole article that is. For your scientific nature article, journals will also do fine. Cheers. EROS message 04:13, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Alan Howard (Nutritionist) has been accepted[edit]

Alan Howard (Nutritionist), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

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Legacypac (talk) 07:08, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Howard Foundation (UK) has been accepted[edit]

Howard Foundation (UK), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Legacypac (talk) 16:56, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

File permission problem with File:Ray Cooper (2010).jpg[edit]

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A page you started (Ray Cooper (singer-songwriter)) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Ray Cooper (singer-songwriter).

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Ray Cooper (singer-songwriter) moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Ray Cooper (singer-songwriter), appears to have been created as conflict-of-interest or undisclosed paid editing; as such, it should go through review by experienced volunteer editors as part of the articles for creation process. You may submit it for review using the Articles for Creation template on the page. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:35, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ray Cooper (singer-songwriter)[edit]

This is to declare a potential conflict-of-interest as I am a friend of Ray Cooper. However, I have created the entry from an objective viewpoint with appropriate references. Tomp-uk (talk) 19:41, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ray Cooper (singer-songwriter) has been accepted[edit]

Ray Cooper (singer-songwriter), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Antonioatrylia (talk) 03:58, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Vogon News Service (May 30)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by RoySmith were:
This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Unfortunately, this doesn't meet our requirements for sourcing. All of the sources cited are WP:PRIMARY and/or WP:UGC. My own searching failed to find anything better.

That being said, this seems like an important contribution documenting the cultural history of the Internet. Although I never used VNS, I was active on the net during this time period. This was the glory days of Usenet and similar things like Bitnet, DECnet, Compuserve, and so on; the primordial ancestors of what's grown into the current social network services. It would be a shame to lose this writeup. Perhaps it fits better in one of the WMF sister projects? Maybe there's a place for some of this in History of the Internet?

Alternatively, find better sourcing, so this meets WP:GNG. But, like I said, I did a little searching and I'm not optimistic those kinds of sources exist.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
-- RoySmith (talk) 15:23, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Vogon News Service (June 4)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by RoySmith was:
This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Sadly, "there is little in the way of either printed or online references" is the same as saying, "this is not notable". Please see WP:GNG. If this to get accepted, it's going to need reliable, independent, secondary sources. As I said in my earlier comment, this is an interesting and valuable bit of writing, it simply doesn't fit wikipedia's editorial requirements. There might be some other wiki where it will fit in better.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
-- RoySmith (talk) 12:43, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Vogon News Service concern[edit]

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Where to put comments[edit]

Comments do not go in articles. Either the article's Talk, or if you want to directly reply to someone, their Talk. I deleted the comment you left in the article. David notMD (talk) 12:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As to whether it can be raised to Good Article, doubtful for biography of a modestly notable living person. Right now it is ranked Start-class. With some improvement it can make C-class. Minimally, make sure all the references work (many don't) and are properly formatted. When I work to improve an article I do not also upgrade the class. David notMD (talk) 12:07, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Flawed references[edit]

At the Alan article, many of the references do not work. Others refer to the organizations being written about. This latter is considered primary sources and not accepted. Ditto interviews with Alan. All refs should be content written by people who have no connection to Alan or any of the businesses he has been involved in. A ref to a patent is not confirmation that The Cambridge Diet exists/existed. Until this article is much improved, I concur with the header tags. David notMD (talk) 12:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following references either do not connect to any website, or connect but the text in question is not supported by the reference, or otherwise flawed: 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 11, 14, 15, 16, 19, 20, 21, 22. David notMD (talk) 17:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@David notMD:Thank you David. I am working through these now but may have to leave and finish tomorrow. Tomp-uk (talk) 17:10, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@David notMD:I've been through all the references now and removed many (with text) that I think are the problems. Two that I'm not sure about are the book references. Now numbers 7 and 10. There are now what I believe to be secondary references: 2, 5, 8, 13. Is the article sufficient now to remove the header tags? thanks for your help. btw, do you know Alan? Tomp-uk (talk) 19:40, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tomp-uk, please do not edit any page in mainspace where you have a paid relationship – doing so is very strongly discouraged. You may request changes by using {{request edit}} on the talk-page of such articles. Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:58, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Justlettersandnumbers: I am no longer paid for any editing. I was paid for the time it took to create the original entry. I am editing it now to make it comply with Wikipedia rules. As such I am a volunteer although with a declared conflict of interest which has been accepted in a previous edit by an experienced editor. The focus now for this article is on content. I hope this is acceptable. Tomp-uk (talk) 09:34, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I never met Dr. Howard. My own research interests never overlapped with very-low-calorie dieting. I left academic life in 1985 for a series of industry jobs. I did know people in Boston who were involved with the low calorie, protein sparing product that led to user deaths because the protein source was amino acid incomplete hydrolyzed collagen. David notMD (talk) 11:28, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Help me![edit]

Please help me with... I need some help with the page Ray Cooper (singer-songwriter) It has been given the tag {{Undisclosed paid|date=May 2020}} I was not paid anything to create this page. A complication may be that I did accept payment to create another page but that was before I appreciated fully the view of Wikipedia editors towards paid editing. Once I realised this, any editing I have done has been in my own time and for no payment Can this tag be removed? I am also working on resolving the other two tags. I may need some help with that but wanted to tackle one issue at a time. Thanks for your help. Tomp-uk (talk) 11:40, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any connection to Cooper at all? How did you come to be paid for the articles you created for payment? 331dot (talk) 13:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Q1: I am a friend of Ray Cooper. Q2: I was paid to create pages for Alan Howard (nutritionist) and for the Howard Foundation (UK). I was in conversation with his son Jon who, when he found out I have a technical background, asked me if I could create those two pages on Wikipedia and offered to pay me. I'd not done any Wikipedia page creation before but was and am a fan of Wikipedia. It was only later that I realised that some Wikipedia editors are very against paid editing and so am not doing any more paid editing. Tomp-uk (talk) 14:51, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I have decided to remove the paid editing tag based on your answers. I would still encourage you to declare a COI and abide by WP:COI when relevant. 331dot (talk) 14:57, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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