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DYK for Control point (orienteering)

On 5 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Control point (orienteering), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

– RyanCross (talk) 23:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

But not from the part that I wrote. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Lambley, Northumberland

On 11 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lambley, Northumberland, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady 05:36, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the village of Lamberley in Northumberland, England has on display a bell from a small convent of Benedictine nuns that was devastated by William Wallace in 1296?

Nice to be appreciated (apart from the spelling mistake). Twiceuponatime (talk) 11:21, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

My first template

Created my first template: MP for Hexham so that Governance can be added to settlements in Tynedale. One template can cover the many settlements in Tynedale. Later added one for Berwick.

{{MP for Hexham}} Hexham is in the parliamentary constituency of Hexham. The current MP is Peter Atkinson (Conservative Party) who has represented the constituency since 1992. Atkinson has announced his intention not to stand at the next general election.
Berwick is in the parliamentary constituency of Berwick-upon-Tweed. The current MP is Alan Beith, elected 1973 (Liberal Party); 1988 (Liberal Democrats).

Twiceuponatime (talk) 10:15, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

BOF (Table of Associations)

Just done some more work on BOF and wondered what you think? 安東尼 TALK ^圣诞快乐 23:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Moved to Talk:British Orienteering Federation#Table of Associations - include or exclude? for wider discussion. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:49, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Template:infobox UK feature

{{infobox UK feature
|official_name = Bamburgh Castle
|shire_county/state = Northumberland
|country = England
|nation = UK
|United Kingdom Northumberland
|static_image_name = Bamburgh castle268.jpg
|static_image_alt = A wave swept beach leading up to a rocky knoll on which can be seen towers and turrets.
|static_image_caption = Bamburgh Castle from the beach
|os_grid_reference = NU183351
|coordinates = {{Coord|55.609|-1.711|display=inline,title}}
}}

Have created Template:infobox UK feature for those articles which need a location map but do not need the verbosity of the more formal templates. Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Coxgreen/Cox Green

Hiya. I tend to see 'Cox Green' as opposed 'Coxgreen' on modern maps too. If I'm not mistaken, the latter isn't used anymore so I'm fine with the move. Most of the links for the place are on pages with the Places in Tyne and Wear template, so it's just a case of updating the template, and you've fixed them ok (thanks for that).

I've moved the footbridge article too and updated the links. I wouldn't worry about the non-mainspace articles that 'Coxgreen Footbridge' links too, they're not too important. Regards, Craigy (talk) 13:44, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi again. I forgot to ask: I'm not sure if you know the place well enough, but do you think Cox Green is a hamlet, as opposed to a village? Along with Offerton, it's historically a part of Penshaw, neither have had their own church or chapel, and they don't seem large enough to be considered villages. Craigy (talk) 06:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry about it - there is no definition of hamlet/village/town etc. Village is sufficient to suggest it is small. Or, you could use (small) settlement. I have cycled through there - the steps off the footbridge are interesting(!). Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Lit & Phil

Hi there. I have undone your edit to Lit & Phil. I agree that the article is a bit of a mess and needs expanding in many ways. However "A wide selection of current fiction and non-fiction can be found alongside historical collections covering every field of interest." is lifted straight from http://www.litandphil.org.uk/html_pages/LP_home.html so needs to come out. I'm actually a member of this library and tried to make it more neutral once. Once I found two different articles on the library so had to attempt a merge.

Could I also discuss Template:MP for Hexham and say why I don't think a template is right for this? I can understand why you did it, but forcing all these details of the current MP on readers of a large number of pages is probably not appropriate. For most of these places it would certainly be appropriate to mention the constituency in which it lies. (This would typically go into the infobox.) What do you think?

By the way, I like your infobox. Looks good! Martin^msgj 07:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Lit & Phil. I also have to declare an interest – I am a member of the Family History Society next door in Bolbec Hall. The article is fine from a historical point of view but just seems to end without stating the current position, which could lead some people to think that it no longer exists. That is why I put that section back in.

It is not clear why you took it out. Is it because it is lifted from a web page, or because it is promotional? I see nothing wrong with using pieces from web pages provided there is a proper reference - I have done similar things for other articles. It is promotional but I find that acceptable for current activities. I draw the line at blatant promotion but this is not blatant.

MP for Hexham. I started this because I wanted to put some minimal information into all the Tynedale articles (and also Berwick), and not just the bit in the infobox. It started off as simply “Village is in Hexham, Atkinson is the MP”. He then went and announced his retirement, which I felt had to go in; and then the other candidates appeared so they had to go in to avoid bias. It has just growed so I will remove the details of the candidates. I will leave his retirement in as I think it gives the impression that the articles are up to date. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:39, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:MP for Hexham

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AfD nomination of List of people from Northumberland by occupation

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TfD nomination of Template:MP for Berwick

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Template:River item box

Hi - I suspect I owe you a lot appreciation for sorting out a bit of work I never got back to finishing off properly. Working on the Thames I found a need for a common box for crossings, islands, locks, etc so set up the "river item" concept. To maintain compatibility I had different versions for the SUgrid ref option and the "name different from the page name" (thisis). I was embarrassed at leaving it all a bit of a can of worms. It looks as if you have sorted this all out. Well Done. If you want to test it to the limits, you might want to look at Caversham Lock - lock, island and crossing, and Temple Footbridge which has a different chain for the river itself and the Thames Path. Best regards Motmit (talk) 19:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

• Always nice to be appreciated, but a little premature since I was still testing it. However, I have now completed my testing; and have added an option to cover the special cases above. It is now released upon an unsuspecting public. Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:21, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

AutoEd

Just so you know, AutoEd may be able to work in IE6 now... the code behind it was given a real facelift at the end of May. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 21:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Infobox UK place updates

Per Template talk:Infobox UK place#Possible_bot_tasks I completed the first two steps - those of ensuring that the population and area fields contained only numeric values - which were the pre-requisites to the template changes going live. Is there anything holding back the changeover of the template itself? Also, we should just confirm which changes to the image-related fields are wanted. If you'd confirm on the template's talk page when you've cut over the template code we can finalise the next stage, be certain that there is consensus for it, and get the bot's task approved. ClickRick (talk) 22:30, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Delves/Delves Lane

Hiya, I've commented at the AfD for this, but thought I'd mention it here just in case you don't see it. I agree that the articles do seem to be duplicates of each other, but it's probably best just to redirect Delves to Delves Lane. This doesn't require an AfD to do, so I suggest that we close the debate and just do the redirect, unless you have any objections. Quantpole (talk) 16:07, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Whitworth, County Durham

Hullo, I hope you don't mind, but I've changed your speedy deletion nomination for this article into a proposed deletion, citing the same rationale, as I couldn't identify a criterion for speedy deletion that covered your concern. Regards,  Skomorokh, barbarian  14:57, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Prudhoe Mad Dog

YOUR SO UNCOOL STOP CHANGING MY EDITS PLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prudhoe mad dog (talk • contribs) 16:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Template:Northumberland railway stations

Created this new template as part of the updating of the railway information for the north-east. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

A railway station is a railway station

Regarding dozens of your recent edits, I fail to understand why you think that a statement of the form "Trumpton railway station is a railway station" conveys useful information. -- Dr Greg  talk  19:12, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. I have added that as I think it is important to have a link to railway station in the articles, otherwise there is no definition of the term. I do agree that it is clumsy; can you think of a better way of doing it? Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

I can't think of a good answer to that, so I've asked the question at WikiProject UK Railways. -- Dr Greg  talk  19:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Derwent Valley Railway (County Durham)

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• Copyrighted text from Subterranea Britannica replaced with text from three other websites. Since they are very similar, and in some cases identical, it is not clear who holds the copyright. Twiceuponatime (talk) 10:30, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Herefordshire

Thanks for your help with the infoboxes on the various Herefordshire articles, much appreciated. I did tinker for a while trying to make it use the county map rather than the national map but couldn't seem to get it working.

I also noticed you added a "Welcome to Wikipedia" template to my talk page. Thanks but that was quite unnecessary - I've been on Wikipedia since 2005! :) Alex McKee (talk) 21:47, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Primary subject images on disambiguation pages

I do not see what your complaint is about primary subject images on disambiguation pages. There's plenty of empty whitespace and they do not detract from the purpose of the disambiguation page. Seems stupid for the hook page to have all these odd references to something hookish without a simple photo link demonstrating the primary meaning. That's the key reason for having the image.

There is no defined wikipedia policy as far as I can determine against primary subject images on disambiguation pages, so I will probably revert your image removal sometime in the future. DMahalko (talk) 17:58, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages are NOT articles and should therefore be simple aids to navigation i.e. without any unnecessary clutter. The presence of whitespace is therefore irrelevant. That is of course my personal view. In relation to Rock adding images is only going to encourage vandals to add other images - it is already an page that is frequently vandalised. Plus, the image you added was of Gravel NOT Rock which does not help the user. [p.s. I liked the image - it is just not relevant on this page]. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:46, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Orienteering "vandalism"

Hi, I was just looking at this edit and wondering about your use of "vandalism" in the edit summary. The user intended, I think, a link to Encounter (game) which does include mention of a format that they claim is similar to orienteering. Now, that article has multiple issues, and I am not at all sure that the link to it, even if formatted correctly, actually needed to be in the O article: indeed, I think I have a preference for it not being there on the grounds of "too marginal". Nevertheless, I don't think that adding the link was really what we normally define as vandalism and I'd wonder if the other user might be aggrieved by this description. Of course you may have some horrendous history with this user going back for ever, or something, and I wouldn't know about that, so sorry if I have put my size 14s into an existing row - but just on casual observation it did look a bit harsh, perhaps. Thanks and best wishes, DBaK (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

OK, I accept the reprimand. I only saw that the link was to Encounter, a disambiguation page, and assumed it to be vandalism. We do do get periodic vandalism on the orienteering pages. I should have said something like 'This appears to have no relevance'. Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:59, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi - thanks so much for that and please don't think of it as a reprimand! I'm definitely not qualified to administer them!!! But yup it looks waaaaay off topic and yes I know the O article does get hammered a bit sometimes! Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:23, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

St Willibrord with All Saints, Byker

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Thanks

Thanks for the editions to Ovingham Middle School. You have help me loads. Are you a teacher at the school, an ex pupil or a current pupil.

Sco1996 15:28, 23 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sco1996 (talk • contribs)

Thanks Again

Thanks for finding out the contact details for Ovingham Middle School. I found them as well but had not had time to put them on.

Sco1996 15:04, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Help

I need some help archiving my talk page. Sco1996 07:26, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

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I've restored this edit [[1]] as it's supported by imdb.com. I think we owe it to anon editors to at least perform a cursory check before deciding something is vandalism. Gerardw (talk) 12:49, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced

Please don't removed unreferenced tags without referencing the article, as you did on Miles Green. Thanks. Jeni ^(talk) 08:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Godel's incompleteness theorem

What is the reason for this undo[2]? The edit summary of the undone edit is accurate. I'm going to submit an un-reversion. Thanks. 75.62.4.94 (talk) 09:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

• I looked at the edit and it appeared to move a citation from one quote to another. Having had a further look I can see that it moves it to a list so I did misread it. However, my personal view is that the ref should be attached to the relevant paragraph; your method implies that that book supports the whole article. That is a difference in style, and not necessarily wrong. A factor is that you choose to use an ip address, which you explain on your talk page, but does mean that I and others editors approach those edits with some suspicion. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
  • The entire article is in endnote style, so I moved the citation to make it consistent with the rest of the article. I had originally written it as a footnote by accident and then attempted to fix it, but you inadvertently undid the fix. Could you restore the fix please?. FWIW, Wikipedia uses a lot of footnotes in subject areas where it's common for claims to be disputed, so it's helpful to closely match up the citations to the sentences. Those disputes don't happen very much in mathematics articles, so endnote style is more common in them than in other articles. 75.62.4.94 (talk) 10:52, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Mary McKillop

I reverted it as vandalism, too, but it seems to have been more-or-less accurate. http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1000761.htm --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:21, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

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Category:Elbe basin

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Alladale Wilderness Reserve

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• The original infobox was the wrong one (Template:Infobox UK place) which is intended for populated places. The new one is the correct one. It looks bad because the original coordinates were wrong. I have fixed that and it now looks ok. btw in looking for the coordinates I found the website and it appears that the article might be promotional. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

The infobox looks fine now. I personally am not trying to promote the reserve and I tried to use other sources and keep the visitor information to a minimum. I wrote the article because I thought it was an interesting project when I came across a red link in Moose. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:26, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

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  • No, it isn't public domain. The terms are incompatible with Wikipedia's license. MER-C 11:36, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I have gone back to the original source (The Sunday Sun of 1932) and written the history from that. 1932 should now be out of copyright. The text remains much the same as presumably the City Council went back to the same source. Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:23, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Tutbury Article Infobox

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I see you changed my Ballywalter edits? You clearly do not live there like I do and do not know the area. Please respond asap. Cammy6990 (talk) 12:32, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

• I have reviewed my reversion. The edits by Cammy6990 were [3]. To me, this is clearly vandalism. No further action required. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:34, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, I saw on my watchlist that you had changed the infobox on Garratts Wood to use Template:Infobox forest (which I'd never heard of before). I was going to follow your lead on the articles listed on Category:Forests and woodlands of Somerset but find that many use Template:Infobox Site of Special Scientific Interest. Is there any guidance about which should be used if the site is both a forest/wood and SSSI?— Rod ^talk 18:04, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

• Rod ^talk I had spotted the same thing. It is on my list of things to do. Which takes precedent: the SSSI or the forest? Twiceuponatime (talk) 15:42, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
  • I have added it where the article had no infobox, but I think SSSI as it is defined by an external body takes precedence over a poorly defined "wood" or "forest".— Rod ^talk 18:51, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

infobox church

For my information, do you know why the above doesn't have a parameter for the designation number? It has a parameter for the heritage designation, e.g. Grade II*, and a parameter for the designation date. It therefore seems odd not to allow for the designation number, that being the number by which it is held on the designation record. I've looked at the other infobox, religious building, but this contains even less of the information I want to put in. Thanks and regards. KJP1 (talk) 13:13, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

• KJP1 I monitor Category:Pages using infobox church with unknown parameters and have to deal with all the errors that appear. The designation number appears to be a sensible parameter but you will have to raise it on the talk page for that template. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:16, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

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Ginge is the most famous person from Shard End and if you say otherwise then good for you but noone cares Benjw 2005 (talk) 18:44, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

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