User talk:Vizualnoiise

April 2023[edit]

Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Abu Hanifa—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 06:39, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The person that put falsified information regarding Abu Hanifa’s biography is the person you need to speak with not me! He’s of Persian ancestry, not “Jat” all Islamic scholars know this! No one says he’s Pakistani it’s ridiculous. I’m fixing a minor error that some Pakistani probably wants and wishes him to be of his ethnicity, but wishful thinking isn’t reality. Please stop with editing it back to fictional make believe. Also, speak to him not me, I’m making it legitimate. Vizualnoiise (talk) 17:16, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Sutyarashi (talk) 14:32, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Abu Hanifa, you may be blocked from editing. Materialscientist (talk) 21:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary, as you did at Abu Hanifa. CodeTalker (talk) 22:05, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why is it when I do it I’m the villain, but when he does it it’s ok? How the hell does that make sense. It’s because of Al Bukhari we know of his ethnicity. Andre wink does not have superiority over Imam Al Bukhari. Vizualnoiise (talk) 00:35, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

watch what Omar Sulieman says about Abu Hanifa on YouTube.Omar Sulieman one of our most famous scholars today alongside with Mufti Menk. He has superiority over these editors. He’s of Palestinian decent born and raised in The United States. He’s one of Islam’s biggest scholars today. Please watch this and see I’m just fixing falsified information. I would willing to work with one of the editors, but I’m not “elite” of editors here on wiki, and he would not work with me. It should say “he’s of Persian ethnicity, and some scholars might say he’s jat”

I wouldn’t mind it saying that. His wiki for years said this and jus a this year it changed. Why is it he’s allowed to change it? Please let me be able to edit and work with the editor. Thanks Vizualnoiise (talk) 00:50, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

May 2023[edit]

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Abu Hanifa, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. CodeTalker (talk) 19:24, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June 2023[edit]

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Abu Hanifa, you may be blocked from editing. Sutyarashi (talk) 08:23, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’m fixing the fact you want him to be Pakistani and not Persian Andre wink is not a reliable source Vizualnoiise (talk) 04:15, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Abu Hanifa[edit]

You appear to have removed referenced information from the Abu Hanifa article at least 4 times. I would strongly suggest using the article talk page. Any further disruption will result in the notification of an Admin. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:46, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’m not doing any type of vandalism. This isn’t the reality of his biography. Everything here in his wiki look legitimate except that of his ethnicity being “Jat” he’s Persian. You can go research this yourself. You can watch any Sunni scholar talk about his biography, and they always say Persian. This is a lie saying he’s Pakistani. You’re fixing it back to something that’s not the reality. Andre wink isn’t even scholar we Muslims look to for anything Islamic. Vizualnoiise (talk) 17:22, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’m not trying disrupt anything. His wiki page never said he was Jat for years! Someone put this a few months ago. It’s not true that’s why I’m deleting that off his page. No one in Islam looks to Andre Wink for any Islamic knowledge ever! And all of Hanifa’s biographies say he’s Persian. This is wishful thinking to say he’s Pakistani, but wishful thinking isn’t reality. You yourself can look into his biography, or even search a biography on him on YouTube, and no one will say he’s Jat. This wiki page for years didn’t say this, and a few months ago someone changed it. How come you didn’t bombard that individual with your conflictive replies of their disruptive editing. Everything looks right except this new edit saying hes Punjabi. Vizualnoiise (talk) 17:29, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Who are they, O Allah's Apostle?"The Prophet did not reply till I repeated my question thrice. At that time, Salman al-Farsi was with us. So Allah's Apostle put his hand on Salman, saying, "Even if Faith were at (the place of) Ath-Thuraiya (pleiades, the highest star), then some men or man from these people (i.e. Salman's folk) would attain it." (Sahih al-Bukhari) Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: If the din were at the Pleiades, even then a person from Persia would have taken hold of it, or one amongst the Persian descent would have surely found it. (Sahih al Muslim) Does the above hadeeth refers to Imam Bukhari (the author of Sahih al-Bukhari), who is also of Persian descent?

Answer

All perfect praise be to Allaah, The Lord of the Worlds. I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah, and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger.

This Hadeeth refers to the virtue of the Persians and the blessings of faith and knowledge that Allaah bestowed on many of them, and it includes Al-Bukhari and other Persian scholars.

this is a Hadith by Al Bukhari about all the ancient Sunni Persian scholars (including Hanifa especially) and you do not see anything about “jat” people. This man Bukhari is who we look to for Islamic knowledge NOT Andre Wink. No one cares for what Wink has to say. This page never said he’s Jat for years! And a few months ago it did, and now I’m trying to fix this error, and you guys never let me! It’s infuriating to say the least! Vizualnoiise (talk) 17:36, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What upsets me the most is that when you google Hanifa’s ethnicity it’s says “thought to be of Persian ethnicity” when he was Persian. It’s like saying George Washington was from Mexico it is that ridiculous. There are famous Sunni scholars today like “Omar Sulieman” whom have a YouTube video discussion about his biography, and he says he’s Persian a few times in the video, and he’s one of the biggest Islamic scholars of our time, and there are others like the Dr.

Shaykh Yasir Qadhi from the Memphis Islamic center who is Pakistani himself and a very known scholar, he will always say the truth, and never say lies. How come when the person that edited that a few months ago didn’t get threatened with suspension of account, or whatever else. Please research it and see if I’m making up things. Vizualnoiise (talk) 18:04, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hadith by Al Bukhari about Hanifa[edit]

Who are they, O Allah's Apostle?"The Prophet did not reply till I repeated my question thrice. At that time, Salman al-Farsi was with us. So Allah's Apostle put his hand on Salman, saying, "Even if Faith were at (the place of) Ath-Thuraiya (pleiades, the highest star), then some men or man from these people (i.e. Salman's folk) would attain it." (Sahih al-Bukhari) Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: If the din were at the Pleiades, even then a person from Persia would have taken hold of it, or one amongst the Persian descent would have surely found it. (Sahih al Muslim) Does the above hadeeth refers to Imam Bukhari (the author of Sahih al-Bukhari), who is also of Persian descent? Answer All perfect praise be to Allaah, The Lord of the Worlds. I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah, and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger. This Hadeeth refers to the virtue of the Persians and the blessings of faith and knowledge that Allaah bestowed on many of them, and it includes Al-Bukhari and other Persian scholars. Vizualnoiise (talk) 17:31, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Warning[edit]

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:32, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We muslims look to Al Bukhari for the biographies on the Imams NOT Andre Wink, he’s not a reliable source. Can you please look into his biography. You can search it on YouTube if you do not want to do research. For years his wiki said Persian, and now this new thing saying he’s Jat happened a few months ago. Look at Arab Sunni Islamic scholars for the truth they will say what his ethnicity is! How come when I change you get upset, but it’s the freaking truth he was a Persian. Vizualnoiise (talk) 04:11, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Complaint about your edits[edit]

Hello Vizualnoiise. Please see User talk:EdJohnston#An editor is removing the claim of Jat ethnicity for Abu Hanifa which is a complaint about your edits. You may be headed toward a block for edit warring. You can respond to the complaint if you wish. EdJohnston (talk) 00:24, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked for edit warring[edit]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

Hello User:Vizualnoiise. Since you continued to revert about Jat ethnicity at Abu Hanifa after the my warning above, I am going ahead with an edit warring block. Even if you turn out to be right on the facts, you will get nowhere unless you are willing to discuss and wait to reach agreement. I first heard about this dispute on my talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 16:12, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked indefinitely[edit]

Hello, Vizualnoiise. Your posts at User talk:EdJohnston are outrageous, with baseless accusations of sockpuppetry against User:Kansas Bear (a long-term, highly experienced editor) and general rudeness. I'm not surprised to see the same rudeness from you above on this page. User:EdJohnston gave you a mild sanction for edit warring a few days ago; apparently you learned nothing from it, but continued your WP:battleground posting here when the block expired, promising to persist in edit warring ("I will never stop changing it"). It doesn't matter what nationality a scholar is; by saying "No one in the Middle East cares about what Andre wink thinks" you merely show you don't understand or care about Wikipedia's sourcing principles. I have blocked you indefinitely for persistent disruptive editing and personal attacks. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bishonen | tålk 06:48, 27 June 2023 (UTC).[reply]