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Hello! I am very sorry that I accidentally reverted your edit. I meant to click "thank", but hit "undo" instead. If you are willing to restore the version manually, I would greatly appreciate it. Again, my bad. DestinationFearFan (talk) 16:37, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello Waddles! Thank you again for your work on Leapmotor. I am currently working on a page for Min'an Electric, another Chinese Automotive brand. Could you please take a look at it and give me some feedback? It's fine if you don't want to. The page is Min'an Electric. DestinationFearFan (talk) 18:38, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Hey, WaddlesJP13, I read that you can make userboxes, and that you also like cars! I love cars as well. In fact, my userbox requaest has to do with cars. I will tell you the request when you respond. WeißFocusRS (talk) 19:19, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
@Primefac: This is a bit frustrating, as I am not able to compare any of the page revisions, and it will be hard to re-add anything I previously removed (template, chapter, etc.) because I'm now unable to retrieve them in that scenario. I do also have some questions:
I only removed the userbox and statements that gave away too much personal info. If you would like I can email you the last revision prior to trimming it.
As to your first question, just because a userbox or template exists doesn't necessarily mean that you must use it. There is also no technical means of prohibiting someone from using a template, or using it in a certain way, without making it very obvious who those people are (we actually had a discussion about this recently, with one participant saying "do you really want to create a list of minors for someone to stumble upon?"). A little bit of common sense is required, but since not everyone knows, we leave notes like the one I originally posted. Primefac (talk) 14:33, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
@Primefac: Surely, if Wikipedia allows templates where you can add your name, age, birthdate/place, and social media links, I'd be allowed to use them on my page (at my own risk, if there is anything to lose). I'd never go as far to share my actual name on my page, as I used my first name plus initials, and other important self-identifying information such as my address, email, or phone number, thinking what I had submitted was only basic information which many people show on their own userpages. Also keep in mind that I didn't think that it was required to add your info, and I had added because I wanted to If any of that violated anything somehow... fine, I don't really care that much, but I'm more unpleased over the purging of every single revision, including the very first ever one from 2018 when I joined. I can no longer compare any revisions or retrieve any edits that I want to re-add to my page that I added or removed days, months, or years ago, such as a favorite and least favorite songs template and a collection of animated icons at the top of the page. I'm disappointed and really wish that if there were some way I could get the revisions un-purged, that would mean a whole lot. A lot of work had been put into my user page. WaddlesJP1317:24, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
If you're sure you understand the risks associated with it, I will self-revert and restore the old revisions.
As to your "Surely, if..." statement: we generally hold the opinion that those under 16 are not aware of such risks (which is why they feel free to sometimes put their full name, DOB, and location on a public site like Wikipedia). Oversight is very much a "suppress first discuss second" action, so we will often remove the age/name/etc and then the editor will know and can question it (like you are doing now), and quite often I will receive a note from such editors along the lines of "thanks, I didn't think of that". Anyway, let me know about your userpage. Primefac (talk) 18:53, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
@Sadko: Unfortunately, I am not able to tweak the userbox as it is another user's userpage, and the user who created it (and any users who have it on their userpages) would most likely want the edit undone. Also, the type of border you described cannot be added in; it is formed when an image with a background covers most of the id background and leaves some space left on the sides, thus creating the line. If I were to try to make that userbox have the border, it would fill in the entire ID background red and have the WMC logo placed on to, since it has a transparent background. If you found an image with a solid white background, it would be possible to form the vertical line and I would be able to create my own userbox for you to use.
For me to create the userbox icon the way you requested, I would need a Wikimedia Commons logo without the gray-white checkered background, but rather a plain white one, so that I can cover part of the id background and form the border. WaddlesJP13 3:32, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello again! Just wanted to let you know that on your user page, you used the link Democrat, and it goes to a disambiguation page. If that is what you wanted, you can ignore this message. DestinationFearFan (talk) 21:14, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
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@Catfurball: Hello, Catfurball, if you would like any specific images for me to include in any userboxes, be sure to provide links. If it doesn't matter which images I add or you do not want any images, just let me know. WaddlesJP1322:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
@Catfurball: My bad, I marked the notification ad read hoping I'd remember to do it a few minutes after but instead I got involved in other things and then completely forgot. I create them now. WaddlesJP1322:08, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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@Catfurball: Hello, Catfurball. Share the images you would like me to use in the userboxes, or let me know if you don't want any to be used or I could use the ones in the articles. Also, sorry that I've been a bit inactive lately. WaddlesJP1314:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
@Catfurball: Yeah, I did, sorry about that. I intended to do them after finishing some things up around May 1st or 2nd, but then my computer broke and I was left without it for about a week or two. Unfortunately, before I got my computer back, I had forgotten about them, so I will do them right now so I don't forget again. Sorry for delaying so much. WaddlesJP1320:44, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
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@Dylanstone2: Yes, I can make you a custom userbox, if thats what you're referring to, just send a link to a Wikimedia Commons file if you want an image, and describe various other details like the text you want or the colors if you want to pick them yourself. You can also pick from the many userboxes I've created in the past here. WaddlesJP1317:32, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
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The sources on @properties right now do not justify WP:GNG; the first two do not meet WP:SIGCOV, while the last is just news. Based on a WP:BEFORE search, I am having trouble finding sources outside news. Even the books on Google Books are financial guides or information directories, not RS. I suggest that we review the page for its notability. Wikinights (talk) 22:22, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Hey mate, I undid your NAC at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenny Rae Le Roux and have explained it there. The article (while prod'd) hasn't actually been deleted so while people are still being directed to the AfD, it should probably be open. Some people take issue with non-admins non-admin-closing anything they are involved in other than a withdrawn nomination (speedy keep) but it all seemed to be in good faith to me. Happy editing. St★lwart11106:08, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Stalwart111: Yeah, I do agree and also understand why the reversion was made. Did get a notification for the reversion and comment on the AfD submission and was about to respond when I got your message here, and I do thank you for leaving a polite message about it and can confirm it was all in good faith. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 06:17, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Brilliant. I suspect it will be speedy deleted and then the AfD can be closed, or an admin might choose to close it on the basis of early consensus and delete it formally (so there is a record of why it was deleted). But at that point it probably won't be for us non-admins to worry about. Have a good one. St★lwart11108:06, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
This seemed appropriate given your efforts at AfD, ANI, and on your own talk page. The civility with which you handled having one of your own closures reverted was especially impressive. St★lwart11123:44, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Comradeka: The book is used as a reference in the first and third articles, therefore it is not an actual mention of the book and they cannot verify notability. I'm not too sure about the second one since it appears to just be constructive criticism on the author's claims in the book, rather than a news article or review, from a politically-biased source which may be unreliable. Also, I suggest any of these comments that are relevant to the article deletion be left on the AfD page for other people to discuss. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 04:04, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
@WaddlesJP13: The book talks about Turner's book in the article, stating: "For example, N. B. Turner has argued that both state and private monopoly capital had been established in China and the four largest state-owned banks controlled the “commanding heights” of the Chinese economy, demonstrating the dominance of finance capital. Turner further noted that China had accumulated enormous overseas assets and become one of the largest capital exporters in the world, exploiting workers and raiding resources in various parts of the world"
Garuda Linux Deletion
Clarify how Garuda Linux Wikipedia page falls under Promotion/Advertising, review the Wikipedia page again. I've re-edited the whole thing and made sound less promotional, the German version sounded very informal and maybe promotional.
@Galactic Cake: The article has a promotional tone, very specific details, and no references. It also was previously deleted before this and you received two messages from admins regarding it, and you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia after its deletion. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 07:14, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
@WaddlesJP13: Not sure how there is a promotional tone included in the article. What is the problem with very specific details, more relevant information is better right? I'm working on citations currently, it's hard to translate citations that are in German. Keep in mind that this information is from an existing Wikipedia page, that is still currently online. Almost every is copy pasted. That begs the question, why is that one active and mine is being deleted. It's the same information, expect I've edited mine to sound more factual and formal.
@Galactic Cake: To answer your first question, specific details and relevant information are better, but no so when they are unverified. The references you've included in your article do not verify notability as they are primary sources that cite an article or web page associated with the subject, in this case, links to the product's website, including the download page. To answer your second question, I'm not sure why this article is still up on the German Wikipedia. The article there may be less promotionally-toned with better references, slightly more notable in German than in the Anglosphere where the English Wikipedia is used, or just has not been found by anyone familiar with the guidelines to mark it for deletion. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 17:36, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
@WaddlesJP13: Thanks for being specific this time on what the Wikipedia page lacks. As for the sources that aren't directly from the products website...that's going to be difficult to accomplish. Not much information exists on Garuda Linux as it's a relatively new Linux distribution. I'll look for sources, but that might take some time 1-2 days perhaps. If you could remove the speedy deletion and come back to review in 2 days I'd appreciate it, I'd be given the time to include proper sources. Also I've completely re-written the Garuda Linux Wikipedia page, it's includes more information and sounds less promotional, but it still requires more sources.
@Galactic Cake: If there isn't sufficient information the topic, it is not notable, and therefore should not have an article on Wikipedia. However, if you want to try to save the article from deletion, I suggest that you copy the source text onto your sandbox page then mark the article for deletion under CSD G7, or, alternatively, simply put this template at the top of the article to allow admins and other editors that you are working on improving the article:
@WaddlesJP13: Alright, but I've also recently checked the article an there are more sources available, that aren't directly from the product. I recommend you review the Wikipedia page. Tomorrow I'll be looking for proper sources, I didn't exactly spend much time looking for non-product sources.
2021 Phuket tourist killing article was threatened with speedy deletion. Somebody else took off the warning.
Please keep track of what articles you threaten speedy deletion and the outcome. This would be good data. Later, you can say that you improved the accuracy. How about 99% of speedy deletions notices that were later on AFD were confirmed to be deletes? Charliestalnaker (talk) 06:22, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
@Catfurball: I apologize, I still do take requests and somehow I didn't see this message, it must've been within the pile of notifications on July 28 when I became a NPR and didn't notice it. I also don't know how I missed it when moving talk page messages to the archive and just thought it was weird I didn't get any userbox requests in nearly a month. I will create them right now. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 16:48, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi there WaddlesJP13, I wanted to follow up from my request on my talk page about the page International Free Expression Project. I was surprised to see the entire page deleted, rather than edits suggested / taken. Could you please let me know how we can get a new page up that isn't considered self-promotionary?
Honestly, I was surprised at this classification, since I had made minor edits to the page after it was published (by another person - at that point, I wasn't an experienced-enough Wikipedian to be able to publish my own articles). I couldn't figure out why it was initially fine to publish and exist, but not once I had added the logo and made some grammatical corrections. I'd like to learn how to write future articles, and I was disappointed that you hadn't previously responded to my question on my own talk page to teach me.
@Ddramacat: Sorry, I did not get a notification for the message on your own talk page since you did not ping me, so I did not see that you left one. As for your article, I recommend not recreating it. You might be able to, but I can not guarantee that it would be a good idea, since you have a conflict of interest with the organization, which is a Wikipedia violation, and recreating the article will most likely have it re-deleted again by another editor and you might be blocked from editing or warned by someone. If you want to learn how to write future articles properly I suggest taking The Wikipedia Adventure for getting started with editing and creating articles and everything else. Furthermore, you can check out Wikipedia help pages in Wikipedia how-to for how-to guides on many Wikipedia subjects and topics. I also just recommend creating articles about things you have an interest in that do not yet have articles on Wikipedia that you are not associated with to prevent any further situations like this. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 21:54, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply! I'll take this into account... and yes, I've been working on other, unrelated articles to myself in the meantime. All the best Ddramacat (talk) 16:13, 11 August 2021 (UTC)Ddramacat
Speedy deletion nomination of Elia Rose
Hi WaddlesJP13, sorry I've just seen your message. I'm a French writer for wikipedia since 13 years. I've created more than 300 pages and I'm not a person who promotes this artist. Maybe could you cancel the deletion and I could rewrite the page? Best regards, Isacre (talk) 11:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
@Isacre: Unfortunately, the article was deleted about 4 days ago. However, I believe it's not your fault the article was deleted and that you'll most likely be able to restore it. It turns out that someone with the user Eliarosemusic, either a fan or someone with a COI, bombarded the article with multiple copyright images and content that were taken from news articles and Spotify, which got the article detected as spam and was why I marked it for deletion. It turns out it was a legitimate article and I believe you can restore the article by contacting the admin who deleted it and explaining the situation and asking to restore the article excluding any revisions by Eliarosemusic and any that were made after their edits. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 16:43, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello WaddlesJP13. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Rabbi Douglas Goldhamer, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not all Professors are notable, but it is an assertiob of importance or significance. Thank you. ϢereSpielChequers22:44, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello WaddlesJP13, I added some additional references to Rabbi Goldhamer's page. He has two published books, runs a synagogue and runs a rabbinical school, which I thought was enough to make him notable. Lenrodman (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Tagging pages for Speedy Deletion
Hello, WaddlesJP13,
Pages tagged for speedy deletion have to meet one of the stated criteria for Speedy Deletion, you can't ask for a page to be deleted with your own explanation. That is possible with Proposed deletion and AFDs where you can present an argument or rationale for deletion. But that's not how Speedy Deletion works. It might be helpful for you to review Criteria for Speedy Deletion so you are aware of the criteria, what name space they apply to and when they are appropriate to use. Thanks! LizRead!Talk!04:28, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
@Liz: Shouldn't exact copies of drafts that are still awaiting review be speedy deleted regardless of the criteria? It seems like it would be the best choice to delete these sort of pages, rather than go through an AfD discussion process that would just result in delete anyway. As for the custom rationale I entered, Twinkle gives me the option to use one, however, instead of using Twinkle, I tagged it manually this time. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 04:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
I've run into this before when there were two copies of the same draft. I tagged one for deletion and was told that having duplicate copies of the same article is not a criteria for speedy deletion. The only way around this might be to tag the page for "uncontroversial deletion"...that's kind of a catch all category. Admins vary in how they judge CSD tagged pages so I'd say it's 50/50 whether an admin would delete on those grounds. They might review both copies and see which one is more complete. But writing in your own explanation lands the page into "Unspecified CSD" category and I think those are scrutinized more carefully and are often declined.
By the way, I just ran into a successful AFD you proposed for a book about China and I had underestimated how experienced you were with the deletion process. I hope you don't think I spoke down to you, I just leave messages like this on user talk pages several times a day and I didn't look closely enough into your contribution history. LizRead!Talk!05:02, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
@Liz: Thank you for the explanation, I'll probably go ahead and tag it for the uncontroversial deletion, surely the 3rd time's a charm. Also, you didn't come off as speaking down to me, all is good, since I understand that admins have a much more important and busier job than what I work on and sometimes simple messages are the best option for getting the job done. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 05:25, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi Waddles, Rather than thinking of "3rd time's a charm", may I suggest being even more cautious about second attempts than first, and moving on to other articles if they don't work out? There are people who take the view that multiple attempts to delete the same person's contributions can be a form of harassment. I don't hold that view, but it was at the heart of one of the community's biggest divides in recent years ϢereSpielChequers13:14, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
@ASEN6: Sorry, but I don't primarily work with uploading images, and have only uploaded a few which are mostly ones that I made. My concern is that because it is a logo, it would just be removed since it would likely be a non-free image. I'm not exactly sure where you could go to ask people to upload files for you, but it's probably somewhere on the Wikimedia Commons site, and you may be able to find any basic information on uploading yourself or having someone else assist you at the help center. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 21:37, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello. I plead to you for this thing as the page I recently created in Wikipedia become big and great to me:
Could you please not delete the English-language Wikipedia page that I recently created, namely Ai Tingting, whom she is a Chinese journalist working in the China Central Television? The page has to be connected together with other Chinese-language webs that mentions her.
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I don't know if it is necessary to rewrite the entire profile in English or is there a way to use the same only to convert it to English.
Can you help me with this?
@Diegordeto: If you use Google Chrome, there's a feature to translate the article to English. Since you cannot translate the source code, you can copy the English translation in segments (but remember to include the WikiLinks and references after inserting content) and make any corrections to grammar and spelling that the translator missed or created. However, since the article has been previously deleted per G11, and you have received a COI warning, I recommend not recreating it for now, unless you're 100% sure you're not creating anything promotional. I suggest that if you want time to work on the article to make it good for proper usage on Wikipedia, you should create it as a draft by reading the instructions listed at this page. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 16:37, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Excellent WaddlesJP13!
Thank you very much for the recommendations, the truth is that I have only edited minor things in other profiles, but I consider this important and I wanted to have the best possible profile. But I suppose that if the profile in Spanish works well, I can still use it in English.
I really appreciate your help and I will follow the advice of the draft.Diegordeto (talk) 20:27, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
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@Lord Milner: Hello, I have moved your article to draftspace (see here) and most of the issues are addressed in the tags at the top. I've also moved the article to a proper encyclopedic title format that corresponds with nearly every other timeline on Wikipedia (search "Timeline of" to see it for yourself) as well as a few minor changes to the lead section. Unfortunately, your article reads like an essay or a book, which does not adhere to the Wikipedia manual of style and goes against what Wikipedia is not. Instead of deleting your article, I want to give you some time to work on it and thoroughly read the Wikipedia article guidelines. Your article has potential and I'd like to help assist you, just remember to click the blue button that says "submit your draft for review" and do not manually move it so that an experienced editor can have a look at it. I do just want to point out that Wikipedia is not necessarily "the internet's online library", and is more of a book within one: an encyclopedia, and every article is a page of it. Therefore they should all follow an encyclopedic writing style, which is explained in my two previous links.
Furthermore, I want to point out that the way you have cited your references is not the proper way to do it on Wikipedia, and the reader should be able to click on the footnote and be taken to the source listed in the reference list at the bottom rather than have to search for it themselves. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for more information on how to do it properly. Thanks. Waddles🗩🖉05:21, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
I will follow your suggestions. This draft means a lot to me, so I appreciate it not being deleted.
1. I will use the new formatting guideline.
2. I will convert everything at the end of a line item to a footnotes.
3. My name, although the same as the subject matter, does not imply favoritism. Everything done was rote work, taken from books.
4. Please visit this website and have a permanent sign on to it. It will allow you to access links to footnotes and references, and it will greatly improve your Wikipedia experience. Link
Second Nature at Reads Creek
While I mildly disagree with your assessment, that's not why I'm writing this note. I'm going to steal your user signature format if you don't mind. It's quite nice, clean, and easy to read. rsjaffetalk17:23, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Well, im not that famous at all to have any interviews or anything of that nature laying around the internet for any reliable resource but I am still active as a musician and I am of desire need of a wikipedia page. Why dont you get in contact with those resources that I've stated so that my information could be verified. I have a few songs over the net on projects created by few somewhat famous artists but nothing major.
Thank you,
- Corleone
PS,
If their is anyway where you can create a wikipedia page for me? That would be most flattering to myself, as well. :)
@Nasteewun: Hello, I'm glad you want to contribute to Wikipedia, however, you might want to check out the Wikipedia notability guidelines for living people. Wikipedia should not be used to promote yourself, it is for creating articles about notable topics and building a collaborative encyclopedia. As for verifying your notability, it is required that independent sources, meaning those not made by you or anyone you know, be added to the article to prove you're famous. Unfortunately I cannot find anything about you on the internet, just for Corleone, the city in Italy, and Don Corleone when searching "Corleone producer" and the like. You may have to just scrap plans on making a Wikipedia article about yourself, but you are more than welcome to create articles about anyone else that adheres to the notability guidelines among the other Wikipedia guidelines. I suggest you take a thorough look at some of those before persisting with any other activity on Wikipedia so you don't get yourself permanently blocked from editing by an admin. Waddles🗩🖉05:32, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
RE : Hey
Hey,
Maybe these few resources can help?
I am a featured artist on "ourstage.com'. My profile link on their platform is, "https://ourstage.com/corleone" and under achievements are where you can see my ratings. They are also a verified blue check marked profile on twitter.com as, "twitter.com/ourstage". On that music charting platform, I am a 3x top 10 artist and also a 19x top 40 artist on their music charts, as well.
Also, I am also featured as an artist under my old alias name titled as, "Gifted" on these platforms :
Here is a recent fan of whom I do not know that posted a tweet concerning my music and is supportive of me, while their are possibly hundreds to thousands more if you were to type in "Gifted - Life Of a Thug" on twitter search.
Here is another link to a song I featured on with a famous gospel musician by the name of "Dre Murrary" who also happens to have his own wikipedia page and verified blue marked profile on twitter.com
Is their any more info that you might be needing? Im sure that I could possibly find more sources.
Thanks in return,
- Corleone
@Nasteewun: Just a quick note that this will be my final message for tonight and I will be going offline, and I will be able to further assist you in the morning. I took a look at the sources you provided, and I can't find anything the verifies notability unfortunately. What is really needed here is something such as news articles that are about you or mention you significantly. Unless those exist, nobody will be able to create an article for you. What you are facing right now is a conflict of interest, which is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia, and this should be handled in an Articles for Creation process. To start, I suppose I can move your article to draftspace, just to save it from being deleted for the time being to let you work on it a bit more and let me help assist you, however I cannot determine how long the draft will stay up before someone else chooses to delete it. Waddles🗩🖉06:50, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
I biographical page I wrote on Chuck Nduka-Eze, a lawyer who represented victims of one of the worst massacres of the Nigerian Civil War, at the Truth and Reconciliation Panel of 1999 was deleted - on the allegation promotion or advertising. It was subject to a speedy deletion, before I could respond or challenge the same. The subject is a prominent person, and I am a biographer of the Civil War hence, my knowledge of his role, from an objective standpoint and the basis of the writing of his entry. I would appreciate it if this is reviewed. Thank you
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Hi there, I got your suggestion on the article that I created recently, kindly review the changes that I made and put me through.–––
Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrr.smart (talk • contribs)
@Mrr.smart: If you submit the draft for review by clicking the blue button at the bottom of the page header, a reviewer can determine what exactly needs to be done to the draft to accept it. Waddles🗩🖉17:38, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
That has been done, waiting to get a reply soon, by the way, you could share your email, amazing talk page you have here.–––
Lord Milner Timeline
I have resubmitted this draft, with as many improvements as possible. Please have sympathy about its length. I wanted to make it as complete as possible. Thank you.
@Lord Milner: Sorry for not being able to respond to your messages. Here's the process I recommend:
Replace all source text on Draft:Timeline of Alfred Milner with the on you have saved on your userpage. Please remember to leave the {{draft}} tag at the top of the page. Do not remove/replace it.
Click the blue button on the tag at the top that says "Finished drafting? Submit for review!" When the source editor opens, click "Publish changes" below.
Wait. Submitting the draft will add it to the backlog of other drafts awaiting review to have an draft reviewer either approve/decline it and/or leave a comment with suggestions to improve it. It could take from a day up to several months before your draft is reviewed, and they are not reviewed in any specific order. If it's declined, it's highly suggested that you make improvements to the draft and address issues based on the reason it was declined and the comment that was left before resubmitting it. Failing to do so after multiple submissions will likely result in your draft being rejecting, meaning you will not be able to re-submit it, since the reviewers will believe you plan on not making any further improvement.
As for your requested title: as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia's articles always correspond with each other one way or another, whether it's article title, format, or recommended content within. In this case, you have the preferred title "Lord Milner Timeline", and since personal titles like "Lord" and capitalization of non-proper nouns like "timeline" are excluded from titles, and the preferred formatting for timeline article titles is "Timeline of x", the title should be "Timeline of Alfred Milner". For example, an article titled "President Biden Timeline" should be called "timeline of Joe Biden" (though the 't' will and should be automatically capitalized as it's the first letter of the title).
Hope this information helps. If you have any further questions or need clarification, I will be able to further assist you. Waddles🗩🖉20:27, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hello Mr WaddlesJP13, greetings from this end. You tagged a page I started about 30 minutes ago Cheque (singer) for speedy deletion. Couldn't you have waited a little time before doing that? The page was barely 30 minutes and I'm still adding content and just like that you killed my zeal for this. Things are not being done that way bro. How would you know if the subject is notable if I don't add contents or if you don't make use of your browser? I'm sorry to say this, but reviewers like you are the ones who kills the spirit of editors.😓 It's a voluntary work and I expected encouragement, not the other way around. Sorry if you don't like what I'm saying, but that's just my mind. Thanks. --Idoghor Melody (talk) 15:32, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
@Idoghor Melody: There's no way for reviewers and other editors to determine whether a page is being worked on or not without {{in creation}} the tag at the top, which you appear to have added after I added the CSD tag. If you want to prevent this next time, either do one of these use {{in creation}} when you initially publish the article, start it as a draft so you have time to work on it before it's reviewed, or fully finish the article before publishing it (which is best overall to do out of these). Unreferenced biography stubs are a huge problem on Wikipedia, and can be prodded or speedy deleted under the fitting criteria if the issues aren't addressed soon. Please take note of this, since there's no way for anyone to know when you're editing a page and creating a soon-to-be referenced full article or just leaving an unreferenced biography stub, which is common on Wikipedia. I have removed the CSD tag. Waddles🗩🖉15:47, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hello Mr Waddles, greetings from this end. I sent a message about 2 days ago, you didn't answer. The article Cheque (singer) is ready now, please check it and help review. Thanks. I sent you this message because you are the first reviewer who came across the article and tagged it for speedy deletion, that is why I asked you check and carry out the review. Is it wrong to ask??. -Idoghor Melody (talk) 06:09, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
There are many interesting things that I can add about Mascalls Corner — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toby Farman (talk • contribs)
@Toby Farman: Could you please specify what you mean by 'interesting things'? There doesn't appear to be anything interesting here, it's just a generic suburban intersection. Regardless of interestingness, what's needed most is references, which the article lacks. Waddles🗩🖉17:54, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
@WaddlesJP13: I can get many old photos of it - and mention a large german plane crash in WW2
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Review Request
Hello Mr Waddles, greetings from this end. Please check and help review these pages;
Hello WaddlesJP13, greetings from this side. Sorry to bother you again 🤦. Please help check and review the page Whitemoney, help check the career part of the article, I have this feeling that maybe it's not well written by me, check for any clean up or anything you might want to remove. Thanks --Idoghor Melody (talk) 17:08, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
@WaddlesJP13: Thanks for the review, I appreciate. But I thought it was expanded enough not to be a stub. Just thinking though. Thanks again Sir💜 and thanks for the clean up too. --Idoghor Melody (talk) 18:06, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
You have just made massive changes to these articles. Where was the discussion? Where was the consensus? Small changes can just be done but massive changes like this must be discussed first on the article talk pages. Stepho talk21:53, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
@Stepho-wrs: I decided to be bold and merge/split these articles into one list and several articles for the cars themselves rather than go through an entire discussion process that would take forever and would likely be ignored until it's not worth talking about anymore. This is something I've considered doing for a while but had to find a day where I had the time to do it, and today was that day. My primary reasoning is that nearly all sections were unsourced or poorly sourced (the ones that had proper sourcing and sufficient content were turned into articles; see Toyota RV-1, Toyota FLV, etc., and many more to be created). Many of the content that was too unsalvageable, i.e. one paragraph sections followed by a citation needed tag. These will be redirected to List of Toyota concept vehicles, which will be a properly sourced list article when I'm done creating it. Personally I think one decent length list is easier to navigate over seven very long ones that you have to flip through to find the right information. It will also be easier to add new entries instead of being forced to write a new section when all you want to add is one name of a car. I will say that the vast majority of the entries on this list that are redirect back to the list again will be turned into concept car articles again, and anyone else is 100% allowed to assist. I've made two other lists like this, List of Daihatsu concept vehicles and List of Porsche concept vehicles, only this is the first one where I've been stopped in my tracks in working on, though this is also the first one where I've had to create several articles and merge content. Just letting you know this is all in good faith and I know 100% what I am doing right now. If my changes are restored, I can continue working and explain furthermore if needed. Thanks. Waddles🗩🖉22:09, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
I accept that it was in good faith. However, I disagree with nearly all of your other points. Please choose one of the original concept vehicle list article talk pages and make your proposal there. Stepho talk22:28, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
By the way, even though I am against the particular changes you did, I do appreciate that you are here to help and that you are putting in an effort to improve WP. Much appreciated! Stepho talk23:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
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@Catfurball: Apologies for my lack of motivation to edit Wikipedia. My mental health has been responsible for my absence but I'm thinking of coming back to continue doing my usual work here. I've created the userboxes:
It is usually completely inappropriate to a incubate an article older than a year (in this case, 9 and 15 yrs) back to draftspace, as this is a violation of WP:DRAFTIFY as a backdoor to deletion. Nominate it for AfD instead (once the redirects get R2 deleted). Curbon7 (talk) 18:16, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
@Curbon7: My bad, I had the new pages feed sorted by oldest to newest, so when I clicked on the first article in the queue and went on from there I was draftifying older unsourced articles instead of recently created ones. Waddles🗩🖉18:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
@Catfurball: I can create the userboxes, do you have any specific images you'd like me to use for them? Just be sure that non-free images like logos tend to be removed from the userbox by bots. I can also leave them without images or have text in place of the icons. Waddles🗩🖉00:59, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Just to let you know that you moved this article into draftspace at Draft:The Red Sun four days ago, stating that the article was not ready for mainspace. The article creator has simply ignored this and recreated the article word for word again in mainspace, leaving the draft article behind. Richard3120 (talk) 21:01, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
@Richard3120: Thank you for letting me know, I've just notified them. It turns out someone else started the page and BloodIronFan replaced the redirect with an article I moved to draftspace, so when I moved it they weren't notified. Waddles🗩🖉21:34, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, colleague, help protect the page about the biography of one musician, there are more than 43 sources, it was mined for deletion, please help urgently! --Robotkaka20 (talk) 17:44, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
I was received the message above on this article and I wanted to see if it can be removed, I added the references on the article. Rodrigo1198 --(talk) 20:12, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Waddles! I saw what a prolific user box creator you are and posted a request message on your userbox subpage talk here: User talk:WaddlesJP13/Userboxes. If you have time to make one I'd really appreciate it. I've left the specifications for image and background color there. Thank you in advance, and please ping me if you have questions. Netherzone (talk) 17:52, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
I came across this thank you for your input, however the idea of nominating a promotional non notable article for deletion as opposed to speedy deletion is done intentionally, for a G4 to be applied in the future. More often than not articles such as that one always tend to be recreated, the idea is when the article is invariably recreated then we can do a G4 speedy delete. Thank you for your participation all the same. Celestina007 (talk) 21:35, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi WaddlesJP13, I reverted your edit to Mariot because the entry for John Mariot with the 2 references seemed reasonable for a surname page, and because the page lists only people. Instead, I changed it to a name page, added back your entries, removed the unsourced sentence about the monument in Longarone (I couldn't anything by googling), and added a {{tl:citation needed}} to the name origin material. If you have objections/suggestions/corrections, I'd be happy to discuss them. Leschnei (talk) 13:52, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
@Catfurball: I have created the userboxes (1, 2). The Saint Patrick's Day userbox's image is a bit tall so it makes the userbox larger. Just let me know if you would like me to change it, make it smaller, or leave it as is. Waddles🗩🖉22:05, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
@Catfurball: Alternatively I've added {{distinguish}} hatnotes to the top of each page since human name disambiguation pages require at least two people with same name. Waddles🗩🖉19:58, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
It wasn't clear to me what you wanted with this page. I see two options: If you want to draftify the main space page, just move it to Draft:Wasturwan 2 and this can get sorted out later. Second choice is that admins are used to seeing a Twinkle notice that asks for the move and deletion in one step. If you open up Twinkle's mode for CSD, look at "General criteria", then "G6 Move", you can fill in the page you want to be moved. Then the admin can delete the draft page and move the other page in the same step. Asking for a page deletion prior to a possible move is less common to come across in CSD categories. I think most admins are more comfortable handling the move and deletion themselves once they check out the two pages and see what condition the pages are in. Thank you. LizRead!Talk!22:06, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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You moved Band des Bundes to draft space. While it's a mere stub article, it was linked via Wikidata to more fully-fledged articles on other Wikipedia language editions, and your move broke that link, actively retarding progress toward improving that article. I hope this is not becoming a trend; it breaks one of Wikipedia's oldest workflow patterns: see WP:STUB. -- The Anome (talk) 18:31, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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Why are you undoing the fact that Alpha Motor Corporation is a privately funded sole entity that is unrelated to any other company which is what your reference cites? What false narrative are you trying to create and why? This Wikipedia page is about Alpha Motor Corporation. What you wrote on here is gossip and not factual. 70.227.88.49 (talk) 20:09, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
An article you recently created, Muck The Game, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 20:53, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Oh wow, that's very odd. I've noticed the auto-script doing this more often than it should have. Sorry for the notice, feel free to remove it from your talk page. Regards, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 21:49, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
@Jovanmilic97: No worries! I might've made an edit while a page mover or admin was doing something and I guess maybe I somehow created the page again with that edit. It looks like a couple other duplicate drafts for this topic exist, so I tagged it for G7. WaddlesGobbles🍂🦃21:52, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
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I work with MP Materials, a rare-earth minerals company located in Nevada. I noticed that you are a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Nevada and wonder if you would consider reviewing my Request Edits to the article, which has been pending since August 20, 2021. Here is the link to the MP talk page with suggested edits. Talk:MP Materials#August 2021 Request Edits Thank you for your consideration.Tmy350 (talk) 00:12, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, we have received the notice about our article - read more like an advertisement and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources - but, as you may see, the auther of the article is represented by only one link in referenses and others are independed resourses, including massmedia and organizations. Actually, there is no advertisement in the article, it is totally neutral. May i ask you to outline sentenses or words, which seems as an adverticeing for you. Thanks!Виктория Шмыговская (talk) 07:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
@Виктория Шмыговская: I declined the draft way back in September on the 13th, it has significantly changed since then. This is the revision of the draft I declined. However, at first glance, it no longer looks like an advertisement to me and the only thing that remains is some MOS issues. Waddles🗩🖉16:16, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
@Waddles🗩 Thank you for your unswer. But what is MOS? where can i read about it? By the way, may i ask, is there any tegs to show that the article is sinnished and is waiting for checking or publishing? Виктория Шмыговская (talk) 11:10, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
@Виктория Шмыговская: You can click here to see the Wikipedia manual of style (MOS). There's a lot of useful content within the help page explaining how and when to use sections, external links, font styling, etc. I suppose you can submit your draft for review, now. Another reviewer will come by and see if it's ready and will either accept or decline it. If it's declined, the reviewer will leave an explanation on what's left to be done on the draft before it's moved to the mainspace. Waddles🗩🖉19:03, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
@Btspurplegalaxy: I haven't thought about making custom signatures but I'd be more than happy to make you one. I could try one similar to mine or make one that fits your description. Waddles🗩🖉16:45, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
These are the ones that I played around with that will fit in the signature code box in the preferences. If you would like any other choices or some modifications just let me know. Waddles🗩🖉17:42, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
There is no need to create any consent on a purely technical page. It is a simple surname.
you want to delete it delete as well you want it include include it.
You are young focused on the really relevant things.
Millions of people write bullshit here and you contested a simple techical page.
Best regards
--Peter39c (talk) 16:36, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
@Peter39c: I cannot directly delete the page and there is no speedy deletion criteria valid to delete it, so the only choice I'm left with is to tag it for discussion where people can choose whether it should be deleted or not. I come across "bullshit" pages quite frequently and do tag them for deletion one way or another, and this surname list just happened to be in the new pages curation and caught my attention for its lack of content there, so I started a discussion about it. Waddles🗩🖉16:44, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Let's not waste time on discussions. We don't have time to finish articles and we waste time in discussions.
Best regards
--Peter39c (talk) 16:36, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
@Peter39c: If what you are saying is that you want to delete the page, then you can speedy delete it under CSD G7. If the discussion ends with 'delete' in a week or so, then it will automatically be deleted. Waddles🗩🖉16:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Regarding this draftification, I would have thought it was obvious that the version you reviewed was the result of a copy-and-paste move—a common mistake from new editors—and should have been tagged with {{Histmerge}}. Instead your automated message on the creator's talk page was likely to only confuse them further, since the article only "needs more citations" in the sense that the references were malformed as a result of the botched move. The page did not meet WP:DRAFTIFY. In future please be more careful about relying on scripts and canned messages when they might alienate newcomers. – Joe (talk) 10:29, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
@Joe Roe: I'm not sure how a copy and paste move would be obvious to me unless I did a deep dive into figuring out how the page came to be. It looked like an unsourced essay to me to I moved it to draftspace so the author could add more sources. Waddles🗩🖉17:33, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Then you need to look closer when reviewing. In the version you reviewed, each section heading is followed by the text [edit] and all but one reference was replaced with something like ^ Jump up to: a b. This is what happens when you copy rendered text from one Wikipedia page to another in the Visual Editor. Regardless, the presence of a section headed "References", with a reference in it, should have tipped you off that the problem was not lack of sources. You would not have needed to do any "deep diving" to check the creator's contributions and see that they had recently edited User:Ninadaisy20/Sacred Prostitution in Ancient Greece, where the text was copied from, and honestly new page patrollers should be prepared to put some effort into investigating a page's history.
In any case, even if this was an "unsourced essay", that is not one of the criteria listed at WP:DRAFTIFY. We have cleanup tags for those problems: {{unsourced}} and {{essay-like}}. I understand that new page patrolling is a difficult and largely thankless job, but it is very important to be cautious and take your time, because your actions can easily drive off newcomers before they even begin their editing career. You don't have to know every last obscure policy like WP:HISTMERGE, but WP:DRAFTIFY and WP:NOCITE are essential and, if you are in doubt about what to do, you can always ask for help. – Joe (talk) 18:02, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
This disambiguation page doesn't seem to actually be helpful. I don't see any evidence that Maleno Martínez has been referred to by solely his first name, so this feels a bit weird to have as a disambiguation page.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
@Catfurball: I had a look at the article and I'm not entirely sure whether I think it's notable or not. The article seems like it's properly sourced, but the subject might fail WP:BLP1E. You might be able to start a deletion discussion about it though, and see what others think of it. Waddles🎄❄️️01:49, 22 December 2021 (UTC)