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DYK for Homobiles

On 17 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Homobiles, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Homobiles has been called "Uber for drag queens"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Homobiles. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Homobiles), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Question from Omotosho rokeeb on Help:Getting started (07:36, 18 July 2021)

Hello --Omotosho rokeeb (talk) 07:36, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2021-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The tool to find, add and remove templates was updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It was supposed to come to the first wikis on 7 July. It was delayed to 12 July instead. It will come to more wikis later this year. [1][2]
  • Special:UnconnectedPages lists pages that are not connected to Wikidata. This helps you find pages that can be connected to Wikidata items. Some pages should not be connected to Wikidata. You can use the magic word __EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ on pages that should not be listed on the special page. [3]

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  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 July. It will be on all wikis from 22 July (calendar).

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15:30, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Question from Pettrainer (12:32, 21 July 2021)

Hello,how can I upload my videos to rumble.com? --Pettrainer (talk) 12:32, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Pettrainer! Rumble is not part of our network of sites, so I cannot help you with that. If you would like to use your videos on Wikipedia, you can upload them to Wikimedia Commons under a suitable license. — Wug·a·po·des​ 18:58, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Question from Omotosho rokeeb (20:38, 22 July 2021)

How can we make money under these --Rokeeb (talk) 20:38, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi again, Omotosho rokeeb! Could you tell me more about what you mean by "these"? Are you trying to make money by editing, make money by selling articles, or something else? — Wug·a·po·des​ 21:14, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2021-30

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21:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

RfC notice

This is a neutral notice sent to all non-bot/non-blocked registered users who edited Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics in the past year that there is a new request for comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics § RfC: Where should so-called voiceless approximants be covered?. Nardog (talk) 10:55, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

Technical news

  • Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

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Question from Assalamu alaikum 4884 on Category:Project pages with short description (15:10, 2 August 2021)

Bahasa, Halo --Assalamu alaikum 4884 (talk) 15:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-31

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Advanced item If your wiki uses markup like <div class="mw-content-ltr"> or <div class="mw-content-rtl"> without the required dir attribute, then these will no longer work in 2 weeks. There is a short-term fix that can be added to your local wiki's Common.css page, which is explained at T287701. From now on, all usages should include the full attributes, for example: <div class="mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr" lang="en"> or <div class="mw-content-rtl" dir="rtl" lang="he">. This also applies to some other HTML tags, such as span or code. You can find existing examples on your wiki that need to be updated, using the instructions at T287701.
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Problems

  • Last week, all wikis had slow access or no access for 30 minutes. There was a problem with generating dynamic lists of articles on the Russian Wikinews, due to the bulk import of 200,000+ new articles over 3 days, which led to database problems. The problematic feature has been disabled on that wiki and developers are discussing if it can be fixed properly. [4][5]

Changes later this week

  • When adding links to a page using VisualEditor or the 2017 wikitext editor, disambiguation pages will now only appear at the bottom of search results. This is because users do not often want to link to disambiguation pages. [6]
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20:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Re: ArbCom (August 1st)

As an uninvolved editor who doesn't really know anything about these disputes, only what is linked on that ArbCom page...It seems like it would be a perfect case for WP:ARBE. Thoughts/feelings? I hate bogging down ArbE with stuff, but basically all the stuff is already there and ready to be copy/pasted. If people wait much longer, it would become stale. As KL said on there, that isn't ArbCom's job, but my understanding is that it actually is, to an extent, WP:ARBE's.--Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 00:00, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

@Shibbolethink: There are not remedies from the previous arbitration case that could be enforced at ARBE. There are no discretionary sanctions that may be enforced given that the notification requirements are not met. Even if it were possible, I do not believe this is a situation where acting quickly is a good idea. I appreciate your input, but I think you would be happier if you avoided this dispute; arbitration rarely leaves anyone feeling good about the encyclopedia. — Wug·a·po·des​ 01:50, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Wugapodes, oh darn that pesky thing where ArbCom hasn't commented on it. Sometimes I forget because I spend so much time editing COVID-19 stuff where the ground is literally covered in the corpses of fallen DSalert notices.
As an aside, I was just on an ophthalmology rotation, and my roommate said to me: "How can you not love it? They're all so happy there!" To which I gleefully replied "You see that's my problem, I don't wanna be happy."
Now does this mean I want to get involved in some completely unrelated dispute I care zero about? Definitely not. but did remind me and make me smile :) Thanks for the friendly advice--Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 02:08, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

A motion has been proposed

A motion has been proposed in Clarification request: Antisemitism in Poland. You may view the motion here. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 08:29, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

WugBot isn't editing the DYK Nominations and Approved pages

Wugapodes, I hope all is well with you. It looks like Wugbot's most recent edit at Template talk:Did you know was August 7 at 11:00 UTC, and at Template talk:Did you know/Approved one minute after that. It should have run again at 15:00 UTC on the main Nominations page to remove a closed rejected nomination, and didn't. (I haven't done a comprehensive check to see whether any nominations have been passed and not moved, but there was one at 23:20 UTC, about four hours ago.)

Please see what you can do to get the DYK part of the bot moving again. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:28, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: Should be fixed now. Someone added a heading with 2 different dates which the bot couldn't parse. I removed the extra heading and moved the nomination to the proper section. Thanks for letting me know! — Wug·a·po·des​ 06:56, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-32

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Problems

  • You can read but not edit 17 wikis for a few minutes on 10 August. This is planned at 05:00 UTC. This is because of work on the database. [7]

Changes later this week

  • The Wikimania Hackathon will take place remotely on 13 August, starting at 5:00 UTC, for 24 hours. You can participate in many ways. You can still propose projects and sessions.
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 August. It will be on all wikis from 12 August (calendar).
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  • The Wikipedia Library is a place for Wikipedia editors to get access to sources. There is an extension which has a new function to tell users when they can take part in it. It will use notifications. It will start pinging the first users in September. It will ping more users later. [8]
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16:19, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

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Unblocking policy

Regarding this arbitration case comment regarding unblocking policy: as I don't think what I have to say will play much role in whether or not the arbitration committee accepts the case request, I'm commenting on your talk page instead of the case request page. Whereas there is some flexibility in the principle of consulting with the blocking administrator, I wouldn't go as far as to say that it is "notably not policy". Wikipedia:Blocking policy § Unblock requests says, Except in cases of unambiguous error or significant change in circumstances dealing with the reason for blocking, administrators should avoid unblocking users without first attempting to contact the blocking administrator to discuss the matter. I appreciate that different admins have different opinions on what may be an "unambiguous error", thus leading to different views on when an immediate unblock is warranted. isaacl (talk) 22:44, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I read "should avoid" as a statement of best practice, but not a requirement (see also, rfc:2119). Compare that to the wording of WP:WHEEL: "Do not..." or the wording at WP:NEVERUNBLOCK: "almost never" (boldings in original). While it is best practice to discuss, policy in no way states it as a requirement. I've personally unblocked a number of editors without discussing with the blocking administrator and I think it caused a row once, so even if prohibited in word, it is not enforced in practice. You're correct that there are differing opinions on what may be an "unambiguous error", and even if it were a prohibition we would still have issues due to differing interpretations. However, I don't think we need to go that far to identify an issue in the policy. I can just unblock people, whenever I want and for whatever reason, and unless it's bad enough that a consensus of editors rebukes me, nothing can be done about it. That is the problem I was trying to identify in my statement. — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:55, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
As I said, I agree the statement is not a rigid one, and so is subject to individual judgement and inclinations. In my view, policy can cover best practices and recommendations, not just mandatory steps. (Interestingly, the third bullet of Wikipedia:Blocking policy § Unacceptable unblocking actually calls consultation with the blocking administrator the "normal way".) True enough that the reversal of certain administrative actions can go unnoticed. For better or worse, the community of editors interested in discussing these matters support easy restoration of the status quo, and a community discussion to proceed further. The inefficiencies of consensus decision-making then hinders making a decision to act. Various editors with libertarian inclinations or who like the veto power available with consensus decision-making see this as a feature. isaacl (talk) 23:23, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
A feature is a means to an end. I agree that easy restoration of the status quo is a feature, and one that I frequently support. Simply being a feature, however, does not guarantee that using it will achieve positive outcomes. To the contrary, if a feature is exploited in such a way that it routinely produces negative outcomes, the mechanics should be modified to maximize the rate of positive outcomes. I will even go so far as to agree that, in the abstract, the ability to easily return to the status quo is a good thing. But we are not in the abstract. We need to ask: what is the status quo to which we are reverting? In the case of civility blocks, it is reverting to a status quo where a vexatious editor is allowed to continue their assault. Of course, if this were a rare or isolated outcome of second-mover advantage, then there is minimal harm, but we see this dynamic play out so frequently that we have an essay about it and it has been covered by external news organizations. What is the status quo? A culture where assholes are given functional immunity from consequences as long as they write good. That is not only harmful to people, it is harmful to the longevity of this encyclopedia.
To quote from elsewhere in the DangerousPanda essay I linked in my statement: "Some argue that long term editors have rights. However, the argument can be made that everyone has rights." Every editor has the right to an editorial environment where they are treated with respect, and that is so important it is listed as the fourth pillar of Wikipedia. The harm caused by an established editor staying blocked while the community considers whether their incivility justified that block is vastly outweighed by the harm caused by allowing them to continue insulting other editors while we consider what to do. The ease with which we can return to a status quo should be inversely proportional to the likely harms that status quo may cause, and where the harms are likely and particularized, we should strongly rebuke an administrator who attempts to return to it.
In the abstract, this is not even a particularly controversial idea. We make it hard to return to the status quo when it has the potential to be more harmful than the alternative. The BLP policy prohibits returning to the status quo during discussion if that status quo contains potentially defamatory material about a living person. Editors are allowed to revert as many times as necessary to ensure this, and administrators may use their tools to enforce a non-status quo until discussion resolves. The potential harm of oversightable information being maintained, viewed, and copied is so great that administrators are advised to redact as a first course of action, technically prohibiting editors from returning to that revision unless and until teh oversight team reaches a consensus on how to proceed. We are not afraid to prohibit actions when the potential harm is high. The harm of administrative wheel warring can be serious, and WHEEL is so strong in its prohibition that it says so in bold. The individual and systemic harms of returning to a status quo where an editor is able to continue their insults against others are quite serious, and we should take steps to minimize those harms. — Wug·a·po·des​ 02:38, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
I don't need to be convinced of the need to deal with non-collaborative editors. English Wikipedia's consensus-based decision-making traditions stalemate nearly all significant changes. isaacl (talk) 02:46, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2021-33

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  • You can add language links in the sidebar in the new Vector skin again. You do this by connecting the page to a Wikidata item. The new Vector skin has moved the language links but the new language selector cannot add language links yet. [10]

Problems

  • There was a problem on wikis which use the Translate extension. Translations were not updated or were replaced with the English text. The problems have been fixed. [11][12][13]

Changes later this week

  • A revision tag will soon be added to edits that add links to disambiguation pages. This is because these links are usually added by accident. The tag will allow editors to easily find the broken links and fix them. If your wiki does not like this feature, it can be hidden. [14]
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  • In the past, edits to any page in your user talk space ignored your mute list, e.g. sub-pages. Starting this week, this is only true for edits to your talk page. [15]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 August. It will be on all wikis from 19 August (calendar).

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19:26, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Question from Zahalirui963 (01:12, 14 August 2021)

Hi, how do I create a user page? --Zahalirui963 (talk) 01:12, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

@Zahalirui963: Welcome! You can use this link to create your user page. Add some content and then click "publish changes". You may want to read our userpage guidelines to get a sense of what kind of content is useful on user pages. — Wug·a·po·des​ 19:41, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-34

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  • The Score extension (<score> notation) has been re-enabled on public wikis and upgraded to a newer version. Some musical score functionality may no longer work because the extension is only enabled in "safe mode". The security issue has been fixed and an advisory published.
    • The Wikimedia Foundation is looking to fund someone to contribute upstream to LilyPond to improve safe mode. It's nice to see us using funds to help support upstream projects. Hopefully someone steps with the needed skills can help LilyPond and our Score extension. It looks like upstream is written mostly in C if any watchers know it and are interested. — Wug·a·po·des​

Problems

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21:57, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

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20:33, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Avoiding issues regarding my T-ban

Hi Wugapodes, just a quick note to avoid issues regarding my T-ban, I self reverted [16], on the page for List of oldest universities in continuous operation just in case some of the text I adjusted might run into the T-ban area. Initially, I was just correcting some of the facts regarding the university, but there is a reference to the fact that some of the classes originally were held at the Cathedral School and in churches. So, I just want to avoid a similar situation where I stumbled across text that might have infringed on the T-ban. --E-960 (talk) 10:50, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@E-960: The self-revert was a good idea, and I'm glad to hear you're being more careful. The sentence you added is, in my opinion, covered by your topic ban as the content related to Christianity. I also have some concern about it's relationship to secularism given the faculty of theology was patronized by the queen, but even if that is fine, the religious ties in the university's early history place this topic within "Christianity...broadly construed". On an unrelated note, the cited source lists the merged university as "Lviv" not "Lwów" as your original edit had changed it to. I'm guessing this is just a difference in transliteration? — Wug·a·po·des​ 23:53, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Indeed, I starts out with a small correction to the date, and next thing you know I'm reviewing the entire text. Good thing I stopped and reverted. In regards to the Lwów/Lviv University, it's a bit of a complicated issue, the source retroactively calls it Lviv University, as the university is in Ukraine today and the primary language of study is Ukrainian. However, at the start of the 19th century the university was just recently taken over by the Austrians from Poland, with most of the facility still being Polish as was the city itself, and Polish and German as the auxiliary languages. The current name of the university "Ivan Franko National University of Lviv" was given to the school after the Soviet Union annexed Eastern Poland in 1939. There was a discussion a long time ago about central Europe on what to call place names in historical context that changed populations and/or countries, and a soft recommendation was put forth to use the name most appropriate for the time-period. Such issues constantly come up on Central European topics, as so many regions in that part of Europe changed hands over the centuries. --E-960 (talk) 06:13, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello

Hello there I’m a newbie --Geeksquad102 (talk) 03:44, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

How can I agree to the stipulations and talk to someone about the 4400? Geeksquad102 (talk) 03:46, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

What can I find out about the continuation of 4400? Geeksquad102 (talk) 03:48, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Well, did you read my last question? --Geeksquad102 (talk) 03:49, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

@Geeksquad102: I'd assume Wugapodes might be sleeping or otherwise busy - is there anything you need help with particularly? Elli (talk | contribs) 03:52, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Well I happen to love 4400 and I was hoping for another episode or season would be great --Geeksquad102 (talk) 04:17, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi Geeksquad102 and welcome to Wikipedia! As Elli notes I was busy and only just saw your message. I assume you're talking about The 4400? I actually remember liking that show myself, but I didn't know it was picked up for a reboot (see [17]). If you would like to improve the article by adding information on the reboot, we would appreciate your help! Let me know if you need me or have questions about editing. — Wug·a·po·des​ 04:38, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
I have so many questions! I have no idea I’m 61 years old. But I do love that show and I would like to talk to the producers the writers the people that have an opportunity to talk to the doctors to let him know just how important that is especially for us old people it gives us hope! --Geeksquad102 (talk) 04:41, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Yes and I still work every day I’m at collections specialist for is steel importer. I drive 64 miles one way back and forth.
I could be a Defender lol --Geeksquad102 (talk) 04:44, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
@Geeksquad102: I can help you with editing Wikipedia, but I don't believe we have any connections to the show production staff. It looks like the TV show has an official twitter which might be a good way for fans to get in touch. The reboot seems to be produced by Ariana Jackson and Anna Fricke who both have twitter accounts but neither has posted in many years so it's probably not a good way to get in touch with them.
As for editing Wikipedia, you should check out our brief editing tutorial. This will introduce you to how you can open the editing interface, the editing toolbar, and how to publish your changes to Wikipedia (among other topics). If you're interested in the reboot, we have a section on that which you might be able to improve. If you have the time and interest, you could write a new article on the reboot specifically, using the original article as a guide on what to include. Hopefully you enjoy Wikipedia, and let me know if you have any problems with editing. — Wug·a·po·des​ 19:55, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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How might the gender diversity of movement organizers compared to elite editors explain tensions between the community and WMF?
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The graphs article is interesting. I included one here that made me think about this previous report which among other questions asked Why should decisions that affect how information is disseminated around the entire world be made by a handful of participants who are almost certainly English-speaking white males privileged by their access to computer literacy, free time, and awareness of a particular discussion? Our readership and the free culture movement in general are diverse, and the organizational leaders are representative of that. Among the most active editors, and even editors at large, decisions are made predominantly by men, but global decisions are made by a group with greater representation of women's voices. In considering the frequent backlash to global decisions, is this disparity informative? Consider Gamergate, a harassment campaign ostensibly about "ethics in journalism" where predominantly male gamers undertook organized harassment campaigns against women journalists. Taken on their own terms, the goal was to maintain the integrity of the "gamer" identity and culture of which masculinity was an integral, if tacit, part (c.f. Bucholtz 2001). As the culture diversified, represented in part by the growth of female voices and criticism in gaming journalism, cultural conservatives waged a culture war in order to maintain their exclusive conception of "gamer" resulting in the coordinated harassment of women journalists. This graph and the others in the article suggest that our demographics may be feeding a similar dynamic. Interesting to think about. — Wug·a·po·des​ 21:40, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

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16:00, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2021 July

Hi! Could you please elaborate a bit on your reasoning behind the closure, just for the record? Thx. -- RZuo (talk) 17:09, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@RZuo: No one at the move review (besides the nominator) said that the close should be overturned. The only editor who did not outright endorse the close explicitly rejected overturning the close, saying "there is no basis here to overturn". There is no other way I could have closed that discussion other than consensus to endorse the close. — Wug·a·po·des​ 20:17, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

MfD closing

Howdy. I don't envy your task. GoodDay (talk) 21:09, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

@GoodDay: It's why they pay me the big bucks ;). At least it wasn't the worst discussion I've closed. I've found it helps to skip the threaded comments on the first read through and only dig deeper when they seem to be going somewhere. If a lot of people are saying "per X" and there's a thread underneath X, it's important to read, but if it's just a huge thread on a couple sentence rationale that wasn't referenced I find it's usually more heat than light. — Wug·a·po·des​ 21:48, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Well, whatever your methodology, I think it was very sound close which accurately and conscientiously summarizes the consensus itself and the contours of the debate, in the case of a challenging discussion. Thank you for taking the time to work it up, Wugapodes.
On a more personal note, I entered that discussion knowing that the consensus was already all but certain at that point, but feeling that I had an obligation to speak up if I felt there were some additional aspects to the issue that should be raised before said consensus was formalized. I knew that a best-case scenario for me in that situation was to just to have those concerns perceived in the light in which I intended them--i.e. coming from a place of similar priorities to many of the delete advocates, but just perceiving the strategy and nuances differently--and I feel your close was very fair-handed in that respect, so please know that did not go unnoticed or unappreciated. :) SnowRise let's rap 08:03, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
I'm glad you appreciate it; I try to avoid naming particular editors in closes as it can put unnecessary attention on them or wrongly present a particular view. Your contribution seemed worth pointing out so that if editors want to dig further they know where to look. I appreciate the time you took to consider your position and write it out despite the direction of the debate. Language isn't a pre-existing object, but something we constantly (re-)produce through interaction. Setting aside the keep-delete dynamic of an MfD, the discussion was really "how do we as a community understand the meaning of these words and what do we do about it?" From that perspective I found your comment incredibly interesting: the interpretation is obvious, but we can choose to develop and enforce an alternate interpretation to subvert that interpretation. It's quite clever, and has a long history which you rightly point out in reference to re-appropriation of slurs. I believe another commenter proposed modifying the template to use "singular they" with the intent to annoy those using it for political ends with the goal of dissuading its use. These are interesting tactics that, in the right circumstances, could be very effective social responses. When we understand discussions beyond a keep-delete paradigm, we can come up with interesting solutions to problems, and while I personally agree that deletion is preferable in this case, remembering that we have options beyond c2:DisagreeByDeleting and can be quite creative when we need to be. — Wug·a·po·des​ 21:07, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

I was annoyed near the end of the MfD, that 2 or 3 editors were on the border of (if not) breaching WP:CIVIL, WP:ASPERSIONS, WP:AGF, with their comments towards me. Merely because I supported userboxes for white pride & straight pride. But anyways, it's closed now. GoodDay (talk) 16:19, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Understandable. It's part of the insidious nature of dog whistles. They recruit others to the defense of the cause through misdirection, and they create division within coalitions that share the same underlying beliefs. It's a divide and conquer strategy: couch intolerance in facially benign terms, get good people to defend the benign meaning, other good people point out and respond to the hidden meaning and ostracize those defending the benign meaning, bigots claim those defending against the intolerant meaning are themselves intolerant, those who defend the benign meaning ally themselves with those seeking to spread the intolerant meaning in opposing those defending against the intolerant meaning. It's a hazard that comes with defending surface-level meanings or abstract notions of tolerance without regard for the cultural, political, and historical contexts which led to the coining and spread of particular terms. — Wug·a·po·des​ 21:07, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Question from Legit Bronco (13:18, 1 September 2021)

How much time does it require to be a official editor? --Legit Bronco (talk) 13:18, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Legit Bronco: You already are an official editor! There are some buttons that we restrict for safety reasons such as the ability to move pages (4 days and 10 edits) or edit certain controversial political articles (1 month and 500 edits), but most of the encyclopedia is yours to edit whenever you like. There's no maximum or minimum time you must contribute, and even small edits as you read are helpful. Feel free to ask more questions if that didn't help, and if there are specific edits you want to make but can't I can help you figure out how to make them happen. Let me know, and welcome to Wikipedia! — Wug·a·po·des​ 20:12, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank You for Becoming My Mentor (Issue of COVID-19)

Hello, Wugapodes,

You are my mentor for my edits of Wikipedia. I created my Wikipedia account yesterday. I wanted to write for the Wikipedia article, “COVID-19”, and found that I could not and would like to ask you what I should do or can do with Wikipedia regarding COVID-19.

I have thought that because global warming affects the world and because the COVID-19 pandemic has the cases in many parts of it, they are probably related. I have written that for some posts of US President Joe Biden and the UN on Facebook in the past. However, I did not know if some people got interested in my idea as I received no replies from them.

I wanted to write my idea of covering the faces for the article of “COVID-19”. It is to create a helmet-like equipment with a small air purifier inside it. In this way, I think that the infections in many cases could be avoided. Indoors, we can have the air purifiers. Outdoors, we could use the helmet-like equipment. I wrote about this equipment to the US Embassy in Tokyo many months ago, but no one seems interested in it. It might not be useful, but I have thought that it would save people.

I also wanted to write for the article what I heard for the patients who are and will be infected with COVID-19. I heard that a person’s power of resistance is dramatically increased with a shot of Vitamin C, and so it might be possible to save the lives of the people who are and will be infected with COVID-19 with such shots.

Please let me know what I should do. Thank you.Ruby2021 (talk) 01:02, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ruby, and welcome to Wikipedia! We're excited that you'd like to help write and edit. As Steven said below, you should first read our policy on original research. As an encyclopedia, we only write about information that has been covered by reliable, independent, secondary sources. Because incorrect information can be dangerous to readers' health, we have a stricter policy on sources for medical information.
If you'd like to write articles related to COVID-19, I would recommend looking at requested articles on women COVID researchers. This lists women who other editors think we should have an article on and includes a couple sources to get you started. You can use our articles for creation process to get started. Let me know if you have any other questions, and I look forward to your editing! — Wug·a·po·des​ 19:33, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Wugapodes, Thank you very much for letting me know.Ruby2021 (talk) 00:05, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Questions about writing my ideas

I wrote my ideas for the Talk pages of "Chosen people", "Darwinism" and "Catholic Church and homosexuality". Please let me know if it is good to write one's own ideas. Thank you. Ruby2021 (talk) 12:33, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

NO, please read wp:talk wp:or wp:forum and wp:rs.Slatersteven (talk) 12:54, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for letting me know, Wugapodes.Ruby2021 (talk) 00:07, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

WikiCup 2021 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished with over 500 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants, Botswana The Rambling Man and New York (state) Epicgenius, each scoring over 3000 points, and six contestants scoring over 1000. All but one of the finalists achieved one or more FAs during the round, the exception being Republic of Venice Bloom6132 who demonstrated that 61 "in the news" items produces an impressive number of points. Other contestants who made it to the final are Gog the Mild, England Lee Vilenski, Zulu (International Code of Signals) BennyOnTheLoose, Rwanda Amakuru and Hog Farm. However, all their points are now swept away and everyone starts afresh in the final round.

Round 4 saw the achievement of 18 featured articles and 157 good articles. George Floyd mural Bilorv scored for a 25-article good topic on Black Mirror but narrowly missed out on qualifying for the final round. There was enthusiasm for FARs, with 89 being performed, and there were 63 GARs and around 100 DYKs during the round. As we start round 5, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it to the final round; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. For other contestants, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:02, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes

readded Jake Wartenberg
removed Emperor • Viridian Bovary
renamed Ashleyyoursmile → Viridian Bovary

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

Arbitration

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:46, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-36

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

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  • The wikis that have Growth features deployed have been part of A/B testing since deployment, in which some newcomers did not receive the new features. Now, all of the newcomers on 21 of the smallest of those wikis will be receiving the features. [20]

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  • Last year, the Portuguese Wikipedia community embarked on an experiment to make log-in compulsory for editing.  The impact report of this trial is ready. Moving forward, the Anti-Harassment Tools team is looking for projects that are willing to experiment with restricting IP editing on their wiki for a short-term experiment. Learn more.

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15:19, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Legit Bronco on Furkan Andıç (08:31, 6 September 2021)

Hello! How can I put a updated picture with credits and provide the picture where it is missing? --Legit Bronco (talk) 08:31, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

@Legit Bronco: Did you take the photo yourself? If you did, then you can follow the steps at the upload tool on the Wikimedia Commons. If you did not take the picture, but found it somewhere else, you need to make sure that it passes our policy on images that are not freely-licensed. If it does, you can use our non-free file upload tool. If you have problems figuring out whether you can use an image, feel free to give me more information on the image and I can give more specific help. — Wug·a·po·des​ 19:49, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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