User talk:Xiner/Archive 3

My RFA

Thank You, Xiner/Archive 3 for your Support! Thank you for your support in my RfA, which closed at 111 / 1 / 2. I am humbled and rather shocked to see such kind comments and for it to reach WP:100. Please feel free to leave a note if I have made a mistake or if you need anything, I will start out slow and tackle the harder work once I get accustomed to the tools. Thank you once more, I simply cannot express in words my gratitude.

...fly on littlewing. ~ Arjun 19:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Also being the first person that you ever supported means a lot :). Cheers! ~ Arjun 20:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: The revert on Socialism

Yes, you're absolutely right: your edit was made in good faith and I should not have reverted it without an explanation. Normally I do provide explanatory edit summaries, but this time I decided to use, for the first time, the automatic revert feature of those navigation popups, just to test it out. Since it was my first time using it, I didn't know whether or not the auto-revert function would give me the opportunity to create an edit summary, and it turned out that it would not. Your edits were the unfortunate guinea pig, I'm afraid. ... Anyway, sorry about that! -- WGee 02:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

This adoption thing is paying off!

Hi Xiner,

Thanks to your recent lesson on user warnings and vandalism, I was able to jump on two back-to-back incidents today. One affected WP:BIO, and required a revert. The other was on the WP:BIO talk page. In both cases, the individuals were not logged on as users, so I posted the warnings to the talk pages of their IP addresses.

I wanted to ask your advice about an interesting post on the discussion page of a bio entry I've worked on for a TV producer named Quinn Martin. It turns out that in the 1920s, there was a film critic by the same name. The user suggested that there should be a notice acknowledging that this is a different Quinn Martin. So far, I have not been able to find out much about him, so I do not want to create a new article yet. But without it, I can't disambiguate. Is there a standrard template or statement that could go at the top of the article that would say "if you are looking for the 1920s Quinn Martin, don't look here"? Does that makes sense?

I'm off for dinner. Will check in later. As always, thanks for your help.--Vbd 03:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

what's that now?

Consistent? Am I? I'm so distracted sometimes I don't know. If I'm consistent, it's probably my subconscious playing out on the keyboard, because I can't keep enough lists in my head of what I've said in the past. What spurred you to say that, anyway? — coelacan talk — 05:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi User talk:87.102.9.117

Just got your message - very odd - you've just replied to a query I had on the help desk about spam and the levi article.. But I haven't edited Talk:Loma Prieta earthquake - some sort of mix up perhaps??87.102.9.117 19:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Qestion that was deleted..

I asked an important question on the Humanities desk which was subsequently deleted by User talk:87.102.9.117 who you have asked not to delete questions or comments of other users without their permission. Could you help me restore the question and the responses which folowed so as to avoid a situation where the act of its deletion can prevent ligitimate responses to the question? Thanks. -- Barringa 20:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello again

I did remove a question see here for my reasons Wikipedia_talk:Reference_desk/Science#question_about_jews87.102.9.117 21:37, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly if I have done this right but I will try to be more cautious in future..87.102.9.117 21:39, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello again, again

Ok right - sorry - I didn't think it was wrong at the time - it's a habit I've picked up on the science desk where adding links eg to sodium chloride is not seen as being contentious but merely a help to others. I'll certainly take into account what you said.87.102.9.117 21:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you SOOOOO much, Ziner! You helped a lot! I saw your user page, and I think I would like to be adopeted by someone (or you). --Cremepuff 01:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, AGAIN!

Thank you so much! I have no problem with your "off-handness"..., I'm that way too! See ya around! (P.S. : My user page has some pretty sweet user boxes!) --Cremepuff 02:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

HW completed

I'd already read WP:3RR once or twice, but I read it over again a little more carefully. Did I inadvertently violate it? --H-ko (Talk) 03:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Haha! Okay; what's a little more homework these days? ;) --H-ko (Talk) 03:43, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Not yet--it hadn't come up trying to figure out how to do anything, and I'm not interested in becoming an admin myself. I will read it, sensei.--H-ko (Talk) 03:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! :-)

Thanks for the barnstar! In all my time on Wikipedia, I haven't received one yet, so it means a lot. And thanks for pointing out the spelling of "userfy". Looking into it some more, I have found both are used, but userfy is more common, so I have corrected the definition. :-) --Grimhelm 14:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Ongoing negotiations with articles of interest.

Namely, adolescent sexuality, you've been involved with this before. And it'd be GREAT if you could get involved again. see talk:adolescent sexuality for more details. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nateland (talk • contribs)

{] brackets [}

hey, retard, my post to Hillary Rodham Clinton was perfectly accurate, if a little politically incorrrect, and if you people at Wiki were a little less biased, maybe you'd get more attention and might even possibly become . . . i don't know . . . like, a DEPENDABLE WEBSITE!!! oh, horrors!

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Edoboy (talk • contribs)

Hi

Umm but I use 6.0 soo ya do u know? —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiMan53 (talk • contribs)

Yankee vandalism.

If the vandal is the IP address itself, try reporting the IP. If this is a bunch of different usernames you'll need to request an audit by listing the names. If any match, they and the IP will be blocked. BuickCenturyDriver 03:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

This was meant for Crimson30 who asked about this on Helpdesk. BuickCenturyDriver 03:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Dixie Chicks

Should we semi-protect this article for 24 to 48 hours (while the world blows up!)? ZueJay^talk 04:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Bugger. I just added it to the page - is that an administrator only priveledge? Should I remove it? Booger. ZueJay^talk 04:24, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Good to know. I was really worried I frigged that up. Maybe the tag alone will discourage until an admin protects the article. Thanks! ZueJay^talk 04:28, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Just signing on for a few minutes. What's been happening? ZueJay^talk 19:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Polar Bear edits

If you had followed the link in my edit summary, you'd see that the purpose applying dates to links is for auto-formatting of dates in accordance with individuals' Wikipedia preferences. Wikilinking dates, especially just years in isolation, was never supposed to be used to add importance to them. 1774 is no more interesting than any other year, regardless of what was discussed on the Talk page; all that it means is that the participants in the discussion were ignorant of Wikistyle and policies. Furthermore, your removal of the word "Some" at the beginning of the second paragraph implies that all scientists share a particular view. Can you substantiate this edit with facts? —Quicksilver^{T @} 19:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Independence

Looks like a heated battle that is going nowhere. You have a form of Mission creep which I refer now to as info creep. If I read it correctly someone is trying to add additional info that clarifies where Bush came from. Without looking at all the edits (my head feels like a balloon ready to burst due to stuffy sinuses), the info creep has gone beyond what you as an editor would like to see in this article. I have seen and been in similiar efforts regarding other articles. Your problem is you are up against an obstinate person who is not going to give up on the issue. Unless you can find some other contributing editors who will back you in the dispute, it will rage until a compromise is found. 3RR issues could arise (if they already have not).

Basically I see this as a statement that has a very slight error in it. Most people think Bush is from Texas for all the obvious reasons. Trying to get the anon IP to agree to that will be difficult because of the info creep about his CT origins.

From an outside perspective, the best recommendation is to come up with a one line explanation which could be difficult as it involves an unsourced statement but one that is obvious. Maines' statement about Texas could be construided as slightly incorrect because Bush is originally from CT. IMHO, that has been done on the DC's talkpage. But, to reach compromise or consensus should be your key. Either get it with other editors who have contributed to the editor or place a statement that you can live with in the paragraph. 23:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

From my perspective, yes, from Texas describes the Bush family almost to a tee. However, from the bigger NPOV context, from CT also factors in. Either fight on, seek consensus or move along little doggie. My vote still is for consensus. Ronbo76 23:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Better, the transplant statement a bit awkward but fitting. I was just watching Inside Edition and they said the emmy wins were a vindication of the DC vs B from a Hollywood/US perspective. I hope the olive branch works and is one the other side can live with. Ronbo76 00:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Do me a favor and look at the edit history of this user talkpage User talk:141.157.198.75. Thanks, Ronbo76 01:44, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

He just attacked my user page again at the top. I was about to put dbattack on it. Ronbo76 01:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

It would be better if another editor did that. I do not want to be seen as a 3RR on his talkpage. Ronbo76 02:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't mince words especially any where they can be seen in public (think about our previous discussion). I was reluctant even to ask you but figured you would read between all the lines. Ronbo76 02:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Aluminum cloud crusing for a bruin angels 280; winds 270 at 29; background clear. Armed for polar bear. ronbo76 out. Ronbo76 02:58, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Aluminum cloud = F-14 Tomcat. Bruin = bear (as in vandal fight). Polar bear = the guys on the other side wearing the red star. (Smacking my head even though it's stuffed up.) I guess I do need to speak in fourth grade English. Ronbo76 03:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Wow, and here I was trying to rhyme cruising with something Russian related (as in Tupolev Tu-95. I just saw an article the other day that had a Navy plane intercepting one here USS Oriskany#1975 .E2.80.93 2006 (picture at right). Just I struck a sore paw (aw man, bad pun).

Viper, ronbo76 checking in angels 280. Switches hot, clear to engage. Eyes of Texas upon ya. ronbo76 out. Ronbo76 03:34, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

edit summary

I do apologize as I am a new user and am seeing the value of the edit summary. While I hope that my edits are intelligent and well-informed, I will always provide an edit summary from now on.

Cain —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cain47 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 13 February 2007 (UTC).

RfA

Thanks for the inquiry. I like to think I could pass an RfA (I know, it's not a trophy, but it is at least a vote of confidence), despite having used "ARE YOU STUPID?" as an edit summary and section heading in a posting last year (September?) (I was just trying to get the guy's attention, unsuccessfully, it turned out, not attack him; it's a long story). But I'm not interested, at least for a while -- I don't think I would add the most value by being an admin, as opposed to some of the other things I want to do to improve Wikipedia (for example, the index I've been working on).

I'm flattered to be asked, and I congratulate you on getting someone else into the RfA process in what looks like a probable success. Please keep up the good work; as I've commented elsewhere, the more (good) admins we have, the better. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

dumb question

I know, I know . . . there's no such thing as a dumb question. But I can't quite get my head around why there is a category "living people." Can you explain the rationale? Cheers! --Vbd 02:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Because not everybody is alive? Mathmo ^Talk 03:02, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I can't believe you got it wrong, Mathmo. :) If that were the only reason, I'd say it's trivial and should be deleted. Xiner (talk, email)

I'm in a bit of a hurry, but my cursory review of the discussion provided a couple of insights as to why the category was kept: (1) because Jimmy (Jimbo) Walsh said so; and (2) it provides some administrative function that allows editors to more easily monitor vandalism and potential libel.

• Thanks for the heads up on the WP:3R; I had skimmed through it before. I hope not to walk that line.

• You also had something about a user not signing a talk entry. So if I don't sign this now, then I could come back later and add {{unsigned|Vbd}} and it would show up as —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vbd (talk • contribs) . Kind of cool. Thanks! Must run. Must try not to WP again today. --Vbd 21:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

• You wrote in response, "The {{unsigned}} template is usually used when someone else forgets to sign their message. It's useful to let others know who the author is." Makes sense, but how am I supposed to know who the unsigned person is? I guess that if I don't sign this post, you would be able to add the {{unsigned}} template to it. But in other cases?--Vbd 23:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Sorry about the comment.... Sensei, I use internet explorer..., would that be the problem? --Cremepuff222

Alright, thanks! --Cremepuff222 00:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Please help me!

Hello, Xiner. I'm probably really getting on your nerves, but I need help with something. You recommended for me to add a link to my talk page in my signature, but I'm not sure how. Thanks for your assistance! --Cremepuff222 00:50, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Xiner. As you can see, I figured it out. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Just wondering...what are barnstars, and how does one get a barnstar? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 02:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Does one just post it on a page? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 02:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! --Cremepuff222 (talk) 02:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

Hello, Xiner. I saw your werdnabot archiving thing in your discussion page, so I added it to my discussion page. I'm not entirely sure if I did it correctly, so could you check it for me please? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 00:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I see what I did wrong. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 00:14, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

For the vandalism assignment, what kind of vandalism should I report? And afterwards, should I tell you that I'm done? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 00:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I think that I am done with the assignment. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 00:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello, just wondering if you could give me a hand on making userboxes. I read the article, but the most I figured out to do was to change the box and information text/color. Specifically, I would like to learn how to add a picture. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Fact stuffing

When you get a moment. . . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.142.210.148 (talk) 15:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

Dixie Chicks

Hi, yeah I just felt kinda uneasy semi-protecting straight away because this I felt that this would basically be breaching “[[[WP:GF|good faith]]” practice – we’ve got to give people a chance to participate on equal footing. If the IP user does not engage on talk page, I think we can say that this chance has been given.

As for your request for protection; I think if you’d put in the semi a couple of hours later, it would have been accepted. Bare in mind that we tend to approach the protection page with the logic that not protecting is the better choice if unsure. You could request straight away but it may get turned down as being pre-emptive; you could wait a day or so after full protection is lifted and if vandalism resumes, then re-request.

In this case, I’ll be happy to semi-protect (with no need for a request) by Friday evening (UK time; that’s the same as UTC times), if signs are that vandalism will return to the levels it was at previously. Robdurbar 16:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid I couldn't say. There are no guidelines and as rule most admins don't count numbers (I've never heard of an 80/20 rule when closing xfd's, though its not something I do very much). You can see my own personal rationale, but I would say that my judgement tends to be slightly towards not-protecting (though only, I hope, slightly!). Remeber that the nature of the vandalism is important too - for example, if "Dixie Chicks" is being replaced with pcitures of penises or with vulgar/offensive/racist stuff, we'd be much more quick to lock it down than with people writing "hello mum" or "you smell".

In general, if a page has had over 5/6 vandalising edits from multiple different ips in a day for a prolonged period, then it may be semi-protected, but it depends on the type of vandalism etc. If its at levels of over about 10 a day then it definately will be semi-protected. --Robdurbar 12:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to go back on what I've written above, but I've just had a massive research proposal thrown at me that I've got to get working on immediatly. Basically, I'm not gonna come onto Wikipedia for a couple of weeks, so I won't be about to semi-p DC if necessary. Again, I advise you to leave it at least 12 hours/1 day once the page is unprotected, to check that vandalism/disruption returns. Hope all goes well! --Robdurbar 15:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

infoboxes

Hi, im afraid i dont know what they are or what they do... info would be appreciated greatly. thanksJ.Mraz 03:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

The dot is a bullet?

Is a bullet like a paragraph indent? The other "bullets" do not appear with the squared dot. 71.143.3.205 04:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

VegaDark's Request for Adminship

Xiner/Archive 3

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Thank you for supporting my RfA. It was successful at a unanimous 52/0/0. I hope I can live up to the kind words expressed of me there, and hope to now be more of an asset to the community with access to the tools. Please feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any suggestions for me in the future. Thanks again! VegaDark 06:41, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

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More Box Problems

Hey, Xiner! I've successfully created a couple user boxes, but the coding for them are longer than what I normally see. How can I change the coding into a smaller size? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:17, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, I figured it out. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:36, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Infoboxes

I was creating an article on Armi Perazzi, a shotgun maker and an administrator suggested i add an infobox J.Mraz 03:02, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Help desk HagermanBot

Yeah, I was getting fed up with having to search through the history and sign it myself. Unfortunately, on the first test it doesn't appear to have worked...maybe something to do with people adding questions via the button rather than direct editing? Trebor 16:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I dunno, the user page says it should act after only a few seconds. Might just be a glitch; I'll wait and see. Trebor 16:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Archiving Problems

Hello, Xiner. My archiver bot thingy doesn't seem to be doing its job because I've had a couple conversations on my talk page ever since I first started Wikipedia. Knowing me, however, I wouldn't be surprised if I screwed something up myself. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 20:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

What was wrong? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 20:48, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Help Desk

Good morning, I just created a new userbox that I figured you would be interested in {{user help desk}} since you spend so much time there. I though you might like it.Cheers — WilsBadKarma ^(Talk) 10:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Subcategorising

Hi Xiner, I would like to ask your opinion about something. I've re-read WP:SUBCAT and I remain uncertain about doubling-up on categorisations. If someone is listed under Category:Canadian immigrants to the United States, should they also be listed as a Category:Canadian Americans? I used to think the answer was no; now I am not so sure. Any thoughts? Thanks!--Vbd | (Talk) 18:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

• I realize that the answer in WP:SUBCAT is essentially, "It depends." That's why I am looking for some input. Do you have an opinion about categorising these bio articles?--Vbd | (talk) 01:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks! You're a big help!  ;-) I'm signing off now; will get back to you later.--Vbd | (talk) 02:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

• Well, I'm trying to come up with a consistent rationale for a bunch of bios. Compare Eric McCormack and Michael J. Fox. Both are Canadian actors who have had successful careers in the U.S. and have become U.S. citizens along the way. This qualifies them both to be categorised in the subcategory Category:Canadian immigrants to the United States. But McCormack is also listed in the main category, Category:Canadian Americans, and Fox is not. Either they both should be, or neither should be.

So, to go back to my original question, I'm uncertain about how to apply the principles set forth in WP:SUBCAT. I'm beginning to think that the Secondary categorization rule might make sense. I'm just looking for some feedback. (I've posted this on the talk page for the cat., but have yet to get a response.) --Vbd | (talk) 08:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

More on subcategorising Canadians

Saw your nomination on Cfd; still not sure how I will weigh in on your proposal. I found it interesting that you make the following statement: "[I]t'd make better sense to list 'Canadian emigrants' and 'Canadian Americans' on [Michael J. Fox's] page to denote where he is from, and where he is now" (emphasis added). To me, the one category, "Canadian immigrants to the United States," conveys exactly that information.

It is the "Canadian American" category that I have a problem with. Should it encompass immigrants and expats and people of Canadian descent? Or should each of those be broken out into subcats? I lean towards subcategorising more, not less.--Vbd | (talk) 19:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

• Aha. So I haven't picked up on the presumption that "Canadian American" is the label for Canadian who have become U.S. citizens. I see your point about redundancy, but I think the "Canadian immigrants..." is clearer and more obvious. Who is not included in "Canadian American"? expats? What are your thought on "Americans of Canadian descent" (born in U.S. to Canadian parents)?--Vbd | (talk) 19:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Note: There are about a dozen subcats of "Foo-ian immigrants to the United States" under Category:Immigrants to the United States. Are you proposing mergers of these as well?

• Slightly separate question that has come up coincidently with our discussion . . . Michael J. Fox was a "Canadian expat actor in the U.S." until he became a U.S. citizen and stopped being an expat. Does his past status as an expat mean that he should still be included in Category:Canadian expatriate actors in the United States? Are there guidelines on retroactive application of categories?--Vbd | (talk) 19:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Categorising people

From Wikipedia:Categorization of people: "People are usually categorized by their nationality and occupation. . . . People are sometimes categorized by notable residence, in the form People from Foo (not "Natives of Foo"), regardless of ethnicity, heritage, or nationality. . . . Nationality is reflected by the occupation category (above), not country or county or city of residence. The place of birth is rarely notable."

• From this, Michael J. Fox can be categorized in Category:Canadian actors and Category:American actors because he is a dual citizen. He should not be listed in the category Category:People from Edmonton because his place of birth is not notable.--Vbd | (talk) 21:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

RE: WP:AIV

Hi. I see that my report of an IP was rejected for having the last warning being 10 days ago. I can't find a guideline for what to do -- there doesn't seem to be a consensus. How many days would you say should go by before the testx sequence has to be repeated? Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 21:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I am not sure exactly which report you are referring to so I can't comment on the specific instance. In general, unless it is clear that the IP is not shared, the last warning should have been very recent as an older warning is very likely to have been directed at a different individual. You are corret that there is no definitive duration (WP:AIV says a "recent last warning"), but I would say that it should be within the last 24 hours. This is clearly a grey area, but 10 days would be too long in most cases. Hope that helps. Cheers TigerShark 18:18, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

User:日の丸

Um, you welcomed and warned this user HOURS after he was blocked indefinitely. Click the link to see :p Nardman1 18:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Argh, so I have to check the userpage of users now? :) Xiner (talk, email) 18:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Dixie Chicks

I was viewing the article on a MacBook 1280 x 800 screen. The illustration of the Time Magazine cover extended below the start of the lyrics of "Not Ready to Make Nice". The result was like this:

|                                          | On March 16, 2006, the Dixie Chicks released the single "Not Ready to Make Nice" ...
| The Dixie Chicks featured on the May 29, | alongside Dan Wilson, it directly addressed the political controversy that had ...
| 2006 cover of Time Magazine              |
+------------------------------------------+ I’m not ready to make nice
                                             I’m not ready to back down
   I’m still mad as hell and I don’t have time to go 'round and 'round and 'round
   It’s too late to make it right

--75.41.57.250 (talk) 19:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Template problems

Hello, Xiner. Several days ago I created a couple templates, and now I can't find the page that I placed them on. Were they deleted or something? Or is this part of that user box migratin thingy? Sorry to waste your time. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 20:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Computernurd22

I am a friend of Cremepuff222 and I am looking for adoption. I would really appreciate it if you would adopt me. --Computernurd22 (talk) 15:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I really enjoy grammar and editing pages for that. I also love to program, though I am quite a beginner. I am interested in the counter vandalism unit, but I don't know much about it. By the way what did you mean about the userboxes? I have absolutely no problem getting rid of any; I am just curious as to why. --Computernurd22 (talk) 00:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I understand. Thank you very much for adopting me. Cremepuff said something about assignments, so if I need to do soething, I'm ready. --Computernurd22 (talk) 01:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I am an extreme beginner, so how do I make a subpage, or do I find one? --Computernurd22 (talk) 01:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Should I get rid of all of them, or would it be better to leave a few? --Computernurd22 (talk) 01:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I moved most of them. --Computernurd22 (talk) 02:04, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I put this: {{uw-upv1|User:Computernurd22}} in the sandbox, but I think it was deleted. --Computernurd22 (talk) 02:56, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Cleaned House!

Hey, Xiner. I cleaned up my user page. Just to point something out, on internet explorer with standard settings, my user page is pretty organized. But using the school's internet, Firefox, the page is very messy.

Also, just to put in a good word for my dear friend Computernurd22, he's a very attentive student, and I'm sure that he would benifit A LOT from your teaching. See ya. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 22:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 22:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I made some major updates to my user page! THough it isn't informative, it looks pretty cool. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

ok i think

im not quiet sher wat u mean but i think i understand i just figuerd since corected me on the help page or wat ever it was that i would try u ok cya --Rsivad 02:07, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

how did u make ur user page all cool and stuff

how did u put all those pictures and stuff on ur page all i can do is rite articles and stuff thx agin... er wat ever thx--Rsivad 02:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Assignment

Sorry to bother you. Okay, I reported vandalism in the sandbox. I think I have the hang of it, so what page should I report vandalism on? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 02:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll just post it here:

Never mind. Still wondering: what page should I post the vandalism on? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 22:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Adopt-a-user

Hi Xiner,

The page I think you are looking for is this one: [1]

Hope that helps Cheers Lethaniol 23:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Assignment, I think.

[it is!] --Cremepuff222 (talk) 23:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

This has to be right! [[2]]. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Is this right? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:19, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

WOOO HOOO! I think I'll give myself fifty pats! --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

By the way, is my signature too distracting? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll put changing that on my list of things to do, as am in the middle of organizing my user boxes on this page. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. So, what will my next assignment be? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 01:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

(Is this signature less distracting?) --Cremepuff222 (talk) 02:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Is my talk page okay? And how about my next assignment? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 02:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 02:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

China

Thank you for your contributions to China. Although they are small, they are quite helpful. I hope you will continue and expand your involvement. --Ideogram 00:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know

user:76.197.203.42 has already been turned in the page for blocking is backlogged but in a few minutes (hopefully sooner not longer) he will be blocked. See you around. --Xiahou 03:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

uhh well he's blocked a whole 48 hours. Whoopie. Sometimes I just don't get the blocking #s. I saw a guy who had over 30 vandal edits in row right after coming off a 16 hour block they just give him 31 hour block. Guess what he did after 31 hours. Started again. Ah well someday I hope to aspire to possibly make it to admin and justly dole out appropriate block times. This guy for example at least a week for sure. Anyway thanks for your time. --Xiahou 03:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

image question, continued

Hi there,

Thanks for helping me. So I already uploaded the image onto a page. It is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acne_amy

Now, I am confused about where on the image page you mean about there being Licensing info - I do not see any link that says that. Here is the page where the image exists already...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Acne_amy.jpg

Clearly I should have checked out the copyrighting stuff prior to uploading but I didn't realize there was a whole process :)

Thanks!

Girona7

--

Cool, thanks for the info!

Girona7

--

Thanks, I appreciate the help. It certainly seems more complicated than it is but I'm glad Wiki has this copyright protection stuff. Ciao!

Girona7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Girona7 (talk • contribs) 2007-02-14T23:00:28

i want to be adobted sory if this isnt how im suposed to do this

as u can see im new at this but i read about the adoption thing and how it like teaches u how to do stuf lol. (((adoptme))) or sumthing like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsivad (talk • contribs) February 20, 2007 01:48:28

Proposed RFA nomination

Hi, you left comments on my Editor review a little while back and I sad that I would be happy to nominate you for an RFA in the near future, well I would like to now. You have over 2100 edits in mainspace alone, as-well as one away from 2000 in Wikipedia (not the mainspace the actual wikipedia bit), and your communication with other users is excellent as you hav over 3500 in User talk, as-well as volunteering at the help desk and adopting new users and heling them along the way in which I'll show references to on the RFA if you accept it. I have not yet created the RFA but if you acccept I will happily nominate you for adminship. Please reply on my talk page and tell me whether you would like to be nominated or not! Happy editing.Tellyaddict^{Editor review!} 16:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC) 16:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, I respect that! I had a failed RFA back in early January and I'm gonig to go in about June if I feel ready then. When you feel ready for an RFA please ask me and I'll nominate you and I hope it would be the same for my Rfa too! Thanks --Tellyaddict^{Editor review!} 16:47, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey Xiner -- Thanks for your help re: infoboxes. I've posted a follow-up question on the help page. I also appreciate your doing some clean-up on the Brett Somers article. I was in a hurry when I was working on it and totally spaced out about creating the references section. Lo and behold, when I went back to take care of it, you had already done it. You rock!--Vbd | (talk) 20:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Checking in

Thanks for your assistance at the Help desk. I was trying to give you a break from bothering you directly! I have added a follow-up question about cleaning up Category:People infobox templates. Please let me know what you think.

I've been following your Cfd re: Canadian immigrants to Brazil. Have you seen this discussion about overcategorization? You might find it interesting.

There was a cute cartoon in this week's New Yorker -- its caption was, "I'm giving up Google for Lent." I've been thinking about giving up WP for Lent (though I am not Catholic), but I seem to be hooked. How long have you been doing this? How many hours a day do you spend on it?

Regards,--Vbd | (talk) 08:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Blocked user editing

Blocked users can still edit their own talk pages. This allows placing of unblock requests and so on. (We can of course protect the page from editing if need be). --pgk 20:50, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Nono existant link

http://mozdev.mozilla.org Dosent exist. Please give the Ip a real link. Thank you, --Darkest Hour ǁ 22:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: your note

Hi, I just got your note on my talk page. The relevant comment was quoted in the deletion review for the old user categories, I'm looking for the source, if I find it I'll let you know. Wintermut3 00:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Category:Djibouti Wikipedians

Don't care to keep it. I think I only created it while going through wanted categories. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Abbas Kiarostami

Hi Xiner!

Over the last few months I was working on Abbas Kiarostami to make it a feature article. Tha article have been copyeditted numerous times and also it had peer review for A-class assessment. It also passed GA assessment. Based on the feedbacks I got from peer reviewers and also during GA assessment, I think the article is pretty much ready to become FA. However it may be better to have a final round of copyeditting preferably by English native speakers. Would that be possible for you to help me in this final stage? Thanks! Sangak 11:57, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Archives

Hello, Xiner. Just wondering when to switch archives. Bye! --Cremepuff222 (talk) 18:27, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, can you show me how to add a link to another part of the same article? Or is this even possible? Thanks for your time! --Cremepuff222 (talk) 18:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I figured out the link thing. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 19:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Do you think that you could sign my Signature Book? --Cremepuff222 (talk) 20:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Okey Dokey. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 20:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Just to input my opinion, I think that an autograph book is a good tool for getting a hold of users with similar interests so that people can work together on different articles. As long as the book isn't used a friend thing, I think that it is okay. --Cremepuff222 (talk) 21:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

HA HA HA HA! THANKS FOR SIGNING MY BOOK, MR. #7! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Empty cat

Hi. I thought someone belonged to Category:Wikipedian bankers, but after the rename it's become empty. Did the person withdraw from the cat? Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 18:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Someone did, though the use of a userbox. When I adjuested the userbox's category, I missed a part. It should be fixed now. Good catch : ) - jc37 10:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Help desk

Hey, Xiner - Can anyone answer a question on the Help Desk or does one have to have been vetted in some way?--Vbd | (talk) 13:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Assignment

Hello, Mr. Xiner. I'm ready for my assignment! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 18:15, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Do you like what I have done with my user page? --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

!

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For all your help at the help desk, I award you the Random Acts of Kindess Barnstar. Keep up the great work! >Kamope< Talk · Sign Here 19:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Arsen Wenger

Didn't Arsenal lose the league cup final to Chelsea? so doesnt that make Wenger the runner-up of the league cup? Zarif 01:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Assignment

When do I get my assignment? --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 18:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, I'm not sure if my werdmabot is working properly. I've had a couple articles for quite a while. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 18:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I saw you talked to Mr. TimVickers, so I know you can respond to my message. Do you want me to do the unsigned comment assignment that you've already given several other of your adoptees? --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 22:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism of shaolin soccer

Since multiple IPs are involved I have semi-protected the page for 2 weeks. TimVickers 20:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll watch that user page, if they continue to get warnings I'll block them. TimVickers 21:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Assignment is DONE!

Sorry to bother you. Here is the diff. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 22:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Excellent! Good idea for the adoptee subpage! That should save a lot of time. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

What does "anon" mean? Anonymous? --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Figured it out. I'm done with the assignment, by the way. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean by bookmarking my watchlist? I have my userpage (and several other pages) in my watchlist. Can I make it so that I recieve a message when a page on my watchlist is changed? --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Got it. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:12, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Technical question

Hey Xiner! Thanks for the assignment; I'll get to it later. I appreciate having the templates, particularly the "edit summary" one. Thanks to one of your earlier assignments, I have been tagging vandals regularly.

My technical question is tangentially related. I have noticed in a couple of instances, when using templates that include my signature within the "}" brackets, that my signature gets truncated. The "talk" link and the date and time stamp don't appear. It happened with the welcome "known user" template you provided. If you want, take a look at my sandbox and compare a Cfr example. In that case, I could simply move my signature outside of the "}" bracket. But I don't think I can do that with the welcome message. Thoughts? --Vbd | (talk) 02:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

• For example,

{{subst:cfr2|OldCategory|NewCategory|text='''Rename''', Your reason(s) for the proposed rename. ~~~~}}

becomes

Category:OldCategory

Propose renaming Category:OldCategory to Category:NewCategory

Nominator's Rationale: Rename, Your reason(s) for the proposed rename. Vbd

Note how you only get "Vbd" for my signature.

But if I manually move the tildes outside of the curly brackets,

{{subst:cfr2|OldCategory|NewCategory|text='''Rename''', Your reason(s) for the proposed rename.}} ~~~~

then my usual signature appears:

Category:OldCategory

Propose renaming Category:OldCategory to Category:NewCategory

Nominator's Rationale: Rename, Your reason(s) for the proposed rename. Vbd | (talk) 02:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

The registered user welcome template that you have posted -- {{subst:w-basic|cookies=true|heading=true}} -- does not show the tildes within the brackets (they must be embedded in the code) but creates the same truncation problem.

Whaddya think?--Vbd | (talk) 02:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

• Okay, but I'm not the one creating the templates. I can manually fix the signature when using the Cfd template, but I can't with the w-basic template. And you are right, the welcome-anon template does not include an automated signature.--Vbd | (talk) 03:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Aha! You are brilliant! And a great adopter! Thanks!--Vbd (talk) 03:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Response

No problem. I just got finished greeting a TON of users. Is there a bot that takes care of this automatically? --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay. I'm done on Wikipedia for about 18 hours (sleeping, school, etc.). Bye! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

A question

Is there a WP-etiquette about rallying support for CFDs or other discussions?--Vbd (talk) 14:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

It does seem to be frowned upon. There's a fine line.

Thanks for the counters! I particularly like Essjay's. I check my watchlist constantly, so no worries on that front. --Vbd (talk) 16:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:your note

Thanks Xiner! Hope you are fine! Take care. Sangak 16:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

In case you are still interested, you can comment here Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Abbas Kiarostami. Thanks. Sangak 16:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Xiner for your kind helps. It would be also very helpful to have your idea about the article here. In the evenings I have usually more free time and I can improve the article if there is any thing. Take care. Sangak 20:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, actually we did this. The article was much longer. some 17 copyeditors worked on it. It has been copyedited countless number of times. Each paragraph has been rewritten several times. This is the result. We splitted the article into 4 articles. It's a long story:-) Sangak 20:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Welcome to Wikipedia!

Hello Xiner, thank you for giving your welcome here, but I am Freddyballo not logged in. Bye :) Freddyballo 20:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Xiner. I also want to thank you for the welcome. =) Leaf of Silver 03:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Reporting Bad Names

Hello, Xiner. I've run across several innopropriate names lately. How do I deal with them? Thanks! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 23:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 23:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Do you have any idea how many Wikipedians help greet new users using that nifty template on the assignment? --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 23:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. If I got an extra 1% as extra credit for each extra user I greeted, I reckon I'd have about 150% on this assignment. (I know, it's not graded!) --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 00:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

If you're busy, please don't respond to this comment. Do you know of any articles in Wikipedia regarding wiki-mark-up that I could help out with? --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 00:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 00:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't mean to brag, but... Special:Contributions/Cremepuff222 --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Checking in

Hi Xiner,

Do you ever find yourself getting frustrated w/ WP? Maybe I'm just having a bad day. I think I may try to take a break, a breather, a few days off, and let my frustration dissipate. --Vbd (talk) 05:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Bold text

Hi. Please see my edit to your post to see how to create bold text. For more info, please see Help:Edit#Most_frequent_wiki_markup_explained. Cheers. Xiner (talk, email) 15:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I know how I am supposed to make boldness happen; however, it just wasn't working. The triple-apostophe was listing just then as a single apostrophe and then two more: so I got italics after an apostrophe. Grrrrr. Thanks for your help, though. OverMyHead 15:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I see. Well, I think it was because you had two single-apostrophes before the word "Wooo" and three of them after the word, so the software got confused. Xiner (talk, email) 15:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

D'oh! Thanks for the help. OverMyHead 15:52, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: RefDeskBot

Certainly - when I get the bot back online after my recent absence, I'll change the code to make the help desk longer. Just to check - is there a consensus for this change on WT:HD (in the archives, perhaps) - if not, I'd like to see at least some communication before making a unilateral change :). Thanks, Martinp23 21:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Calendar

Hello, Xiner! Sorry if you're busy, but I was wondering if you could show me the template for that nifty calendar on your user page. I tried to find it, but failed. Thanks! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 23:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh! Alright, I'll try to find it. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 23:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Found it! I made a template (in my user space). It's {{User:Cremepuff222/Calendar}} if you want it. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 23:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Oops! Four tildes, not explantion points! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 23:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Ha, ha, ha! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 23:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Here you go...

You've seemed pretty stressed lately. Have a nice, warm batch of cookies! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book)

Stamford Bridge

hi,

was just looking at the stamford bridge page... seems riddled with vandalism. I'm too much of a n00b to know how to revert it, so would you mind? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.29.57 (talk • contribs) 2007-02-28T20:16:04 {UTC}

Polar bear

I was trying to use the template but I didn't know what to write on it. If you look at the previous version, everything below that line didn't appear because <ref> wasn't written correctly, so I did that change. —MK (talk) 02:16, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Golden Globes

Hi Xiner. Turns out I can't stay away entirely, but I am trying to stay low-key. (Did you et my e-mail?) I was just re-visiting a discussion that you and I both participated in a few days ago in which you commented, "I think the Golden Globe for films is not notable enough to get a category." So I wanted to invite you to consider a Cfd I've posted (also here). Thanks.--Vbd (talk) 04:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: User:65.120.148.3

The only contribution from that IP today was a harmless newbie edit, not drastic vandalism that demands retribution. I agree with you that a school block is a fairly innocuous way to deal with vandalism, but in my opinion that specific report to WP:AIV did not require a block. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 18:19, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, step back and take a breath. That edit was a minor mistake that replaced ==Lyrics== with Author:James Weldon Johnson - the author responsible for writing "Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing." It was a minor faux pas, inconsistent with WP:MOS, but utterly harmless and probably made in good faith. I salute you for fixing the error, but posting {{non-admin fwarn}}, much less posting the IP on AIV because of such an edit is a perfect example of needlessly biting newbies. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 18:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I give up. Xiner (talk, email) 18:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Relax, we're on the same side here :) ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 18:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Today there were two distinct contributors originating from that school. One was copyediting Lance Armstrong, the other was vandalizing Bessie Coleman. Do you mean to point out that vandalism was eventually posted by that IP? Fine, but in hindsight I still agree with the initial assessment to dismiss yesterday's report. I've been an administrator for less than a week, yet it is already apparent that a large part of the job is determening when not to act - when to take WP:AGF to heart. ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 22:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't call the change substantive, but it is accurate[3]. Look, with a myopic enough analysis you can find malice behind anything. I don't want to continue nitpicking this IP's edits with you, it's obvious that our opinions differ. I am all right with that and you should be too. Good luck on RC patrol ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 23:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Am I really new?

Yep -- I did make anonymous contributions for about two years before I signed up though. =) Leaf of Silver 19:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Greeting

Hello, Xiner! I thought that the template for the greeting you showed me was pretty boring, so I created my own! Can you tell me if I've included all of the important things? It's located at User:Cremepuff222/Greeting. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 19:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I suppose it is slightly large. :) I'll see what I can do. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 19:45, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Aye. I see what you mean. When I first started, the size of Wikipedia was overwelming! (It still is!) --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 19:51, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Jimbo Wales Imposter

Hi, Xiner. I recently had an incident at my autograph book and I reported it here. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 21:06, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

User:168.9.44.2 (talk · contribs)

Thanks for pointing that out. At the moment, the vandalism seems to be pretty localized, and it is a shared IP, so it doesn't seem like blocking right now would do much good. If it does start to vandalize continuously, though, then we might consider it. -- Natalya 00:58, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Help_desk#Minor_error_in_article:_Hobby_Products_International

You said there was an anon who gave incorrect info, where you talking about the IP posting this comment? If you did, Mishatx's edit should be reverted. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)