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Possibly unfree File:Blnguyen winter.JPG[edit]

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Is this a joke? YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
LOL Aaroncrick TALK 08:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


DDLJ[edit]

Don't tell me you have watched Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge! Did you like it? Shahid • Talk2me 16:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes yes, it was a classic, although it was also problematic with SRK being silly and implausible in parts, which jars it. Also, same with Karan Arjun etc, the camera work is not very good with how the punches clearly miss by 20 cm or more. Teh technical quality of bollywood films is poor a lot of the time YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:29, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Vital articles/Expanded/People[edit]

You may want to expand the cricket and swimming sections, i expanded the american football section, and i led the discussion of baseball wikiproject about our section. Thanks Secret account 23:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Key biographies is it any important thing that is a start or worse?? YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:29, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yea try to trim it to 51, remove most of the start class articles unless they are really important for the history of cricket, only like 2 articles from the baseball we have are start. Secret account 19:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also the baseball wikiproject is doing a drive to make all these articles FAs or GAs. Maybe you could do something similar to it in your wikiproject. Secret account 19:40, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

report[edit]

have a look at Nadar(caste) article.maintenace templates being vandalized by User:CarTick and filty abuses against editors on talk page reverted by User:SpacemanSpiff.LinguisticGeek 13:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just for the record, i have done this much work before removing the tag. but, he removed POV tag from Nair article and wouldnt let me also add the following blatant omission which is 100% POV. --CarTick 14:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nairs used to practice polyandry until the mid-20th century. A man's property is inherited by his sister's children and not his own.[1] Several unrelated men have a common wife in Nair polyandry. Under Nair polyandry, the only conceivable blood-relationship can be ascertained through females.[2] However, polyandry among Nairs is a contested issue with opinion divided between ones who support its existence[3][4] and ones who do not support it based on the fact that no stable conjugal relationship is formed in Nair polyandry.[5]

  1. ^ The imperial gazetteer of India by William Wilson Hunter
  2. ^ H. W. H., H. W. (12 February 1886). "Primitive marriage". Science. 7 (158). American Association for the Advancement of Science: 147–149. doi:10.1126/science.ns-7.158S.147. PMID 17759687.
  3. ^ A.Aiyappan (March 1932). "Nayar Polyandry". Man. 32. Royal Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland: 78–79.
  4. ^ L. K. Ananthakrishna Iyer (November 1932). "Nayar Polyandry". Man. 32. Royal Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland: 269–270.
  5. ^ Marvin K. Opler, Marvin K. (September 1943). "Woman's Social Status and the Forms of Marriage". The American Journal of Sociology. 49 (2). The University of Chicago Press: 125–148. doi:10.1086/219347.

the tags were removed quite before the edits were done.and polyandry among nairs was linked by me.you can check the edits.btwn the nadar user talk page is full of anon ips abusing me and other wikipedia editors.can a check user be done.you have already blocked one user User:Lindam90 for his disruptive edits on the said nadar page.LinguisticGeek 15:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

check user is a good idea. all the IPs at the Nadar page and all the SPAs at nair talk page could be considered for check user. --CarTick 15:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Damn I should make my editnotice more explicit YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:14, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnam topics?[edit]

You seem to have a ton on the military and politics of Vietnam. Why aren't you aiming for some topics? Nergaal (talk) 17:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heh I don't think a featured topic on military/politics in third world countries can be easily defined as every gets involved in a coup and chasing eveyone's tail and switching sides every 5 minutes more like a ridiculous soap that runs for 40 years and where everyone has been married 10 times, come back to life three times, and is everyone's husband, stepfather, brother-in-lae and simultaneously biological father and grandfather :( I'll have to put some As through GAs while I'm waiting too then :( OK YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:14, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute[edit]

I am sorry to disturb you, but can you help resolve this dispute? I think the edits were made not so long ago. Ruslik_Zero 19:27, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

fiexd I think YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

my user page[edit]

could you please protect my userpage? Thanks. --CarTick 03:55, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yup YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, well[edit]

According to this, "discussion on strengths and weaknesses would be necessary for FA, but not required by a GA." *Sigh* Aaroncrick TALK 08:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I'll be along. Barnes in 48 up. AFL don't have extra time to make more money? Lol. It will overshadow Test and CG now. Have you seen everyone protesting against TonyTheTiger and his GA/DYK/VP flooding?? They're going to try aand DQ himi from the Wikicup YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 08:48, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion is closed, and people have just decided to drive on by and give keeps. Yeah, saw it this morning. He's noming VP's without taking pictures himself. His articles are as short as possible, then people will probably let him get away with it saying things about it's ok for GA. Aaroncrick TALK 09:07, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nalanda[edit]

please show the courtesy to reply to the user whose changes you reverted on the Nalanda page. thanks --vvarkey (talk) 09:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vietnamese films[edit]

Hey, lazy guy. Here is what the fucking film list looked like two days ago.

Where the hell were you when me and Dewaine turned it into a bloody table, eh?

Have you read the talk page yet? When were you in Vietnam?

Varlaam (talk) 05:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a fucking American, and I used to live in Australia.

Where were you during the Vietnam War, eh? I found the first ever half-Vietnamese war film yesterday, put it in the table, and now you are fucking busting my balls over it, asshole.

Varlaam (talk) 05:49, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Try doing some actual work some time. Varlaam (talk) 05:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Try looking at the version of the page from earlier this month after Erik deleted the entire bloody list. Did you happen to notice that, eh? Varlaam (talk) 05:53, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good afternoon, gentleman YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 06:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE barnstars[edit]

The Original Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to YellowMonkey for editing the most articles (63), on the first day of the Guild of Copy Editors' September 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thank you so much for making such a fantastic effort to start off our drive with a bang! – S Masters (talk) 05:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


The Cleanup Barnstar
I have pleasure in awarding YellowMonkey with this barnstar for your efforts in the Guild of Copy Editors' September 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive, for editing a total of 17,017 words (19,652 with rollover). Thank you so much for your contributions to the project. – S Masters (talk) 05:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Leaderboard Award—Most Articles—3rd Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to YellowMonkey for copy editing 63 articles during the Guild of Copy Editors' September 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive–Number of Articles–3rd Place. Thank you so much for your contributions to the project. – S Masters (talk) 05:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 00:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 4 October 2010[edit]

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GOCE 10K barnstar[edit]

The 10k Copy Edit Barnstar
For copy editing the following article of 10K words or more:

during the Guild of Copy Editors September 2010 backlog elimination drive. Thank you so much for all your efforts, and see you at our next drive. – S Masters (talk) 04:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Ho Chi Minh City[edit]

Hello YellowMonkey! Can you help me write the article of Ho Chi Minh City and make it change into a good article? I'm Vietnamese too! Kind regards, NInTeNdO (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Right. I don't have any good sources except history books about some battles/coups in Saigon or the citadel of Saigon. Dragfyre (talk · contribs) was preparing a bunch of child articles about history and etymology of SG but he's been away for a month because of a bereavement. Pity, I had more books and journal articles about Hanoi and Hue that I could email YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 07:42, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vertigo (film)[edit]

Hi YM. Nice edits to Vertigo (film). Are you a Hitchcock fan? Yworo (talk) 12:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User Blocked?[edit]

User:Yogesh Khandke Did you put a block notice on his talk page? Justin talk 12:23, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No not yet, I'd have thought it rather obvious YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just following it up, I nominated the BE article for protection because of the edit warring not realising he'd been blocked. Isn't it usual to give a block notice? Justin talk 13:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Two week sounds a little bit too long to me. He got carried away in the heat of the moment and might have trolled unintentionally, more out of emotion than how a habitual or deliberate troll would. I don't always agree with him but he's been around a while, brings out many good points and is a good, positive contributor to Wikipedia. Troll might have been marginally appropriate reason for the block but POV can go both ways. Zuggernaut (talk) 17:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Caesium/archive2[edit]

Thank you for the comments. I have fixed the concerns you have listed. Nergaal (talk) 21:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tuvalu[edit]

Hello! Regarding this edit, are you aware of this discussion (in which there has been overwhelming opposition to the proposed elimination of the criterion under which the Tuvalu item qualifies for inclusion)? As this was linked from the nomination and appeared to essentially supersede it, I (and several others, apparently) assumed that it was unnecessary to duplicate our comments there. —David Levy 15:40, 1 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]

There's a difference between setting a minimum population and posting an item. YM made the right call. ~DC We Can Work It Out 14:34, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The guideline, as currently worded, reflects consensus to post the item (without the need for a nomination, unless there is a question regarding the article update's sufficiency). The above-linked discussion demonstrates clear opposition to the proposal to modify the aforementioned wording to exclude small countries such as Tuvalu (and support for the logic behind their inclusion).
I provided an opportunity for YellowMonkey to address this (during which the item remained absent from the main page) and was ignored. —David Levy 14:46, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That there isn't a consensus to add a population criteria doesn't mean there was a consensus to post the specific item. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 14:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is consensus to maintain the criterion under which the specific items that it encompasses need not be independently discussed. As noted above, there also is consensus for the principles behind the Tuvalu item's inclusion (based partially upon the input of several editors who participated only in that discussion, which appeared to supersede the nomination).
Additionally, I believe that the aforementioned Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates discussion did result in consensus to post the item (which is based on the weight of the arguments presented, not a tally of "support" and "oppose" votes). YellowMonkey disagreed and overruled another administrator's determination (though he/she apparently overlooked the Wikipedia:In the news discussion, where consensus was considerably more obvious), so I invited him/her to address the situation. As noted above, I was ignored. (YellowMonkey edited in the interim, but he/she did not respond.) —David Levy 15:10, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I don't normally edit on weekends and could only make for around 15 minutes, which wasn't enough to reply to everything. No I did not remove it on the basis of it not having or having consensus, but that the other item had more, so to speak, and ITN was getting flooded. In any case, the next item probably got bumped a few hours later. I saw the original discussion and if it was on account of being flat out opposed to Tuvalu, I would have removed it a day earlier YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 00:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
1. Thanks for the reply.
2. Controversial edits (such as overruling another administrator's determination) often necessitate subsequent discussion. In the future, I suggest that you either refrain from performing such actions when you won't be available to discuss them or provide blanket permission to revert your edits during the relevant time periods (with discussion postponed until you return).
3. I went by your edit summary, in which you stated that "the consensus was highly questionable or invalid or non existent."
4. The Tuvalu item was the second oldest when you replaced it with one that had just been bumped, so you left two older items in place. More than 34 hours later, one of them remained. It was at this point that I reverted, triggering the above responses. The restored Tuvalu item was bumped slightly less than two hours later. So you removed the Tuvalu item more than 36 hours before it would have been bumped.
5. As noted above, "the original discussion" was linked to another discussion, which essentially superseded it. That discussion drew more participation and generated clear consensus. —David Levy 03:12, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Third Anglo-Maratha War[edit]

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Juwan Howard/archive2[edit]

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Something for you[edit]

 Military history reviewers' award 
By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your good work helping with the WikiProject's Peer and A-Class reviews for the period 1 April-30 September 2010, I hereby award you this Military history WikiProject Reviewers' award.  Roger Davies talk 08:10, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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You poor bastard[edit]

All Nyugens are related? Well, as I said to my remote cousin Smith... Fifelfoo (talk) 10:23, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

socks or meats?[edit]

User:ChandranPillaiChandernagar was blocked indefinitely for abusing talk pages and User:Pichaiyan Nadar and User:Robynhood.Pandey suddenly appeared with similar personal attacks in Talk:Nair page. could you please also semi-protect the talk page? --CarTick 04:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Many are socks YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 05:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. --CarTick 00:00, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leonid Brezhnev[edit]

I've recently expanded the article.. You criticised it for having to little information on Soviet involvement in the Vietnam War and Sino-Soviet relations. I've created two sections for both the topics, is it missing any information, are there any concrete proposals? --TIAYN (talk) 11:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This may be a dum question, but what do you meam with "Khrushchev a few times", do you mean Khrushchev is mentioned to much or to little? --TIAYN (talk) 08:14, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
repied YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:24, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graphs[edit]

Thanks for the templates. All we need now is something similar for bowling, especially for someone like Kilner who did more bowling than batting! Might also see if I can do something for the old English players which shows their seasonal averages/aggregates in fc matches as it used to be quite a biggie. --Sarastro1 (talk) 20:29, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Works for FC as well. I put up an instruction page as I found the new excel a bit hard to decode at first YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:24, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good thing you mentioned it, yahoo had put it in my spam! Got it all safely now though, thanks! Harrias talk 06:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Madison_Nguyen[edit]

Thanks much for the protection. I've been fighting this for a week, and I asked for protection a few days ago, but I was given half a loaf. This is much better.

I've been a little worried that I've been going too far in my efforts to protect the page, but nobody's weighed in to say I've been wrong, so I've been assuming I've been doing the right thing. Jokeboy (talk) 01:32, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you know expat Vietnamese politicians are still very much Asian style in politics... anything goes, all feral and all that. So similarly, the articles. And it was a blogspot. On another note, where I am, the Viet ethnic community newspapers just cut and paste off BBC etc and translate if necessary, and a one-man 40-page free weekly paper makes 5k profit a week; 60% are dumb ads and 40% cut and paste copyvio. Amusingly a photo I took of a community centre and school that the govt wants to shut down is on this week's front page, lifted off wiki. YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Breaking up other users' posts at FAR[edit]

Can you please see Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/Simon Byrne/archive1#Breaking_up_other_users'_posts, and help out with regard to this disruption? Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 07:35, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 11 October 2010[edit]

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Potato couch?[edit]

Don't you mean couch potato? ;) --Stephen 23:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He may have been referring to these. Yworo (talk) 23:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well thanks, hadn't ever heard of the potato couch concept YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 00:31, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Adelaide leak[edit]

Finished this for the moment, so stuck it in mainspace. If you get a chance to take a look, I'd appreciate it as I feel like there's stuff missing I can't put my finger on. Feel free to add anything you think needs to go it or to chop it about generally! I'm hoping to add to the 3rd Test article, but may take a while... --Sarastro1 (talk) 20:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe my brain is shot to pieces after too much short pitched bowling but er... which book more about the Fingo and Braddles hate-fest? There are quite a few! Not sure if you mean Growden or Fingo himself. I got in the stuff about the Don's charming character assassination after Fingo's death from Frith and a quite a bit about their mutual admiration for each other. Anything specific? Wasn't sure about the rest from Growden as it struck me as pushing POV to have so much against Bradman from people close to Fingo. For example, putting in Tiger's view may be pushing it if there is no other stuff supporting Bradman. And there is no real evidence either way (although I think we all know who really did it! :) ) --Sarastro1 (talk) 20:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah but Bradman refused to talk to people except a few who turned super-hagiographer. The serious guys like Frith and Haigh severely criticise clowns like Perry, who is basically Bradman's agent. Perry even said that the 1935-39 Aust team were one of the weakest Aus attacks of all time adn the 3-2 adn 1-1 result was due to the genius of Bradman's captaincy; nonsense; Australia had two all time great bowlers and Bradman purged one of them when he was still strong YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:29, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the Fingo stuff. Should prove very useful. I'll have a browse through and stick any useful stuff in. Rather than cramming it into the Leak article, what about a Fingo loves Braddles article? However, my stuff on Bradman is non-existent except for people claiming he wasn't as good as Hobbs/Hutton/Hammond/Sutcliffe/Headley/take your pick cos he couldn't play on stickies! Anyway, I'll probably see about GA for the leak fairly soon as I think the bulk of the main stuff is in there, and maybe add some more bits as I go and if it ever goes to FAC. Re Perry's ... interesting claims, O'Reilly was probably the difference in the 30s as England had a line-up as good as Aus except Bradman. And they had a habit of stuffing up under pressure (so, things haven't changed), picking crap teams (1936-37, Oval 30, Oval 34) or not turning up if Hammond failed. Not super captaincy. Just my two cents! --Sarastro1 (talk) 20:10, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to write up a Bradman v the Irish Catholics but never got round to it. Did you know about the 1936-37 incident where the board hauled all teh Catholics (except Fingo) to a meeting about undermining Bradman. Feel free to pilfer the all the existing articles for snippets of course. Well Perry is useful for Bradman POV but I used his books before I read widely and discovered that he was a copycat. All his books on the Invincibles stuff are lifted straight off "brightly fades" except that he copied wrong. More ironic he is always saying Fingo is a pathological liar on Braddles' behalf and then plunders Fingo relentlessly. He even cuts and pastes the really distinctive stuff eg HAssett being caught by the Yorks keeper like a fishing net, and the joke about the sawdust sausages in 1948 YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 07:42, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Had a look at 3rd Test 32-33 and expanded background from a few places. I thought I'd use your 48 articles as a template. But I've got to ask: is there an easy way to do the scorecard, or is it really as complicated as it looks? :( Might have to call in some help, so I'll probably leave it till last. --Sarastro1 (talk) 11:55, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well there isn't a template for it so that you can enter them in with sequential curly brackets, brick style, and it can be annoying in the existing way as the columns can be mixed up easily YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 00:54, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adelaide[edit]

Why did I start this one? :) I'm up to the end of the first day and can't face the second day tonight! Too much to go in! Don't know if the stuff from the Hele book is from you. It was unreferenced, but it looked interesting, so I'll put back any bits I took out if you've got a ref. Jardine goes into excruciating detail in his book and Frith has lots, but that's all I've got on the match detail. Have you got anything else? I'll probably get to Barnes at the weekend. Kilner finally passed, so I might put up Macca next. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need to snap Hele for you. The other Tiger and McCabe books don't get hung up about it. Frith seems the ultimate in collating all the other stuff I guess YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for Hele stuff. Made some comments on Barnes, but not done much over last few days as I've been out of action for lots of tediously dull reasons. Back to Adelaide any day now... Looking forward to it as much as Dougie was! :) How did you manage to get FIVE tests for 48 to FA without losing the plot? --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:18, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Must have gotten hypnotised at that point. but luckily, I think about 30% of the article was already done by cutting and pasting from the biogs, so it was not that difficult YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 00:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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