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Speedy deletion candidates[edit]

Candidates for speedy deletion
Carex × mirata
Carex van-heurckii
Carex wushanensis
Draft:Justin T. Clark
Draft:Saira Shah Halim
User:SourceTimes
Talk:Tropical Depression 05F (2024)
Draft:Wikipedia:Crying "PROMO!"

Articles[edit]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 May 8

Files[edit]

File:Two suspects wanted by the FBI for the bombing.jpg[edit]

File:Two suspects wanted by the FBI for the bombing.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dave Bowman - Discovery Won (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This file is in the public domain per {{PD-automated}}. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 04:47, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Comment: I don't think US copyright has been settled with respect to this kind of image and the fact someone created a template for such a license doesn't necessary mean much, other than someone created a template for such a license. Even the Wikipedia article referenced in the template states that US case law is untested on the matter. Of course, Wikipedia articles aren't reliable sources for any purpose, but being unclear means it's probably best to err on the side of caution and keep this file licensed as non-free. Of course, if you can cite specific US cases in which this came up and resulted in such footage being declared ineligible for copyright protection, please do so since that will help further assess the file's copyright status. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    IMO, given recent case law on AI requiring that, even if directed by a human, works created by machines are ineligible for copyright, I would consider that analogous to CCTV cameras. Further this follows the 2013 monkey copyright lawsuits, where even if the camera placement and direction was done by a human, the photo itself was snapped by a monkey - and it was ineligible for copyright. No human snapped this photo, or any CCTV photo. AI prompting has far more creative input than CCTV camera placement, which in 99% of cases is for purely utilitarian reasons, and that is ineligible.
    Under the law of the US, as exemplified by the AI laws and the monkey case, a work must be created by a human to qualify for copyright. This doesn’t qualify. In works where there is significant human alteration after the fact, that may be another story, but given the developments in AI and machine copyright I would think that carries over to similar stuff like this. Given case law around cases where a non human entity created a photo, even if supervised, have all resulted in ineligibility, unaltered CCTV photos are PD in the US. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Tramp art frame with maker's photograph.jpg[edit]

File:Tramp art frame with maker's photograph.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tramperguy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Derivative work. Needs permission from the photographer of the original picture in the frame (unless the image is in Public domain due to the age) Sreejith K (talk) 18:47, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is an antique frame with a historical image ca 1900. I am the photographer, and I uploaded the image. 108.50.210.104 (talk) 20:48, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Categories[edit]

NEW NOMINATIONS[edit]

Category:Early Germanic music[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now, there's not enough content to support a category right now. There's only one page in here (and Early Germanic music redirects to Early Germanic culture Mason (talk) 22:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Native Americans' rights activists[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Rename to make the distinction between being an activist who is of native american ancestry and someone who is in support of the rights of people who are of native american ancestry. This category is a siblings to Category:Activists for African-American civil rights‎ and Category:Activists for Hispanic and Latino American civil rights, which were renamed following this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_November_4#Category:African-Americans'_civil_rights_activists Mason (talk) 22:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
support per nom jengod (talk) 22:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Albanian rights activists[edit]

Nominator's rationale: I think we should rename this category so it is easier to distinguish from Albanian activists. I think that this category is supposed to be Activists who advocate for the rights of Albanian people, as opposed to activists who are albanian nationals. Similar categories like this one are Category:Activists for Hispanic and Latino American civil rights & Category:Activists for African-American civil rights Mason (talk) 22:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lists of airports in Massachusetts[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Redundant category. Let'srun (talk) 19:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Places" doesn't make sense. Up-merge to Airports in the United States and delete category all together. CaribDigita (talk) 21:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Heliports in Massachusetts[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects. Let'srun (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Punjabi diaspora in Asia[edit]

Nominator's rationale: merge, not enough content for diffusion by continent. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Book of Joel people[edit]

Nominator's rationale: delete, single-article categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Not every Hebrew Bible book must have its own people category per se. There is no need to merge to Category:Hebrew Bible people, the articles are already in Category:Prophets in the Hebrew Bible. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Tuvan independence activists[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Broaden this category so it can include other kinds of activists. Mason (talk) 04:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People from Overseas France by ethnic or national origin[edit]

Nominator's rationale: rename for consistency with their subcategories which are all "by descent", as well as for consistency with Category:French people by descent at the top of the tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom Mason (talk) 04:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 14:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Suicide books[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Dual merge: These categories seem to be extremely overlapping Mason (talk) 02:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Single merge to Category:Books about suicide; Category:Suicide methods does not seem to be an appropriate merge target. Perhaps keep a redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Single merge per Marcocapelle. A book about suicide can be about a lot more than just the methods. Think about motives, underlying causes, social impact, prevention, statistics, cultural depictions and references, etc. NLeeuw (talk) 14:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Great points! Mason (talk) 22:34, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Georgetown College (Kentucky)[edit]

Nominator's rationale: In line with the main article, Georgetown College. Graham (talk) 02:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects[edit]

The Wack Attack Barrack[edit]

no mention and also can't really find any credible news source covering it Okmrman (talk) 22:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Unnotable entires should not deleted, not redirected to their parent category (e.g. an unnotable book shouldn't redirect to Book. Air on White (talk) 23:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lao bai xing[edit]

WP:RFFL jlwoodwa (talk) 21:08, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Porncast[edit]

no mention Okmrman (talk) 20:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oggcast[edit]

Whatever mention that was in the podcast article was removed in 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=942832128 Okmrman (talk) 20:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Porncasting[edit]

not mentioned Okmrman (talk) 20:27, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pod porn[edit]

have no words other than what? like just why. redirect history is as insignificant as the redirect itself Okmrman (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IPod porn[edit]

have no words other than what? like just why. redirect history is as insignificant as the redirect itself Okmrman (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ultraquists[edit]

Misspelling of "utraquists" Godtres (talk) 20:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Plausible misspelling given the commonness of the prefix "ultra-". Receives multiple pageviews a day. Air on White (talk) 22:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of radio broadcasters who also do podcasting[edit]

Says list. No list. It has a page history but the history is clearly not anything to write home about. Okmrman (talk) 20:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Similar to "Auntie Claus (film)"[edit]

Please delete these redirects for a similar reason to "Auntie Claus (film)".

Template:WPSCOUTING[edit]

Unused and unneeded redirect. This will only cause confusion. --evrik (talk) 15:20, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing to whom about what? "WP[THING]" is a really common and helpful redirect for WikiProjects. Keep. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's brand new, and not needed. It's not listed on any of our WP documentation. Unused. Not needed. --evrik (talk) 17:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and create WP:WPSCOUTING → WP:WikiProject Scouting as well. This is a common convention for redirects to WikiProjects (WP:WPRED/{{WPRED}} come in mind due to the venue we're in), so I don't see how it can be confusing. Nom, can you tell us what it can be confused with? --Nickps (talk) 20:08, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've worked with this WikiProject for 15 years. We won't use them and we don't need them. This is cruft. --evrik (talk) 20:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UA (India)[edit]

There is no indication that the abbreviation UA is used in any context for Uttarakhand. There is a vehicle code column in the table at States and union territories of India where UK is used for Uttarakhand, but no UA. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Vehicle registration plates of India, this was the vehicle registration code for the former name of the state "Uttaranchal". Gotitbro (talk) 11:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A 17-year out-of-date vehicle code seems an unlikely search term to merit a redirect from "UA (India)" to Uttarakhand. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It still appears on vehicles in the state, and is also used by the state government in communications (e.g.: https://uaresults.nic.in/; main contact adresses still operating at "ua@nic.in", ua.nic.in) among others. Do not see why it would not be a likely search term. Gotitbro (talk) 13:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Earthquake and tsunami, List of earthquakes and tsunamis[edit]

Unlikely search term. ToadetteEdit! 11:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: too many things unlikely and doesn't Skynxnex (talk) 19:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Unlikely search term, few views and no clear target. Air on White (talk) 22:09, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Milwauke[edit]

Incomplete spelling to disambig, search results shows products which do not have their own Wikipedia entries. No pages in disambig have the title. ToadetteEdit! 08:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hatnote (disambiguation)[edit]

Appears to be a bad cross namespace redirect. Note that the page Hatnote was brought up for discussion multiple times and closed as no consensus. One may not even be searching for this. ToadetteEdit! 07:54, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete I didn't know about WP:R2 at the time. JoshuaAuble (talk) 11:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The project space is one of the exceptions to R2. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agamy[edit]

This term has two meanings in English, one being asexual reproduction and the other "Absence or nonrecognition of marriage, or absence of a pair bond", according to wikt:agamy. The current target is because it existed as a duplicate page of Agami, which would be a transliteration/translation, a synonym/alternate term, or a misspelling. I think Wiktionary is the best target. And it should be noted that it would mean agamy [pt; ca; simple] (agamia in Romance langauges), so this could be {{R with possibilities}} (until a better disambiguator exists). --MikutoH talk! 00:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Templates and Modules[edit]

Template:Parish and Town Councils in Gloucestershire[edit]

There are currently only 2 parish councils in Gloucestershire with articles namely Cirencester Town Council and Tewkesbury Town Council, all the rest are either red links, redirects or linked to the parish its self. Per WP:EXISTING we may create templates with red links, I add red links to templates however there must be a reasonable prospect that these articles can be created but there isn't. We only have articles on 28 parish councils in the whole of England and while its likely the case more could be created most would not be notable or for the same reason as districts the name only exists for a parish like Ashchurch Rural so similar to WP:UKDISTRICTS it would be redundant to the parish article, see Wikipedia:Notability (councils). Template:Local authorities in Gloucestershire which lists the county and district councils as well as the 2 parish councils with articles does a far better job. It may be a good idea to create templates for the parish themselves like Template:Devon parishes or for parishes and settlements like Template:Babergh. Also while deletion isn't cleanup I'd note it appears to contain errors namely it lists Wyck Rissington Parish Council as being in Gloucester district but its actually miles away in Cotswold district. Note that parish councils can cover more than 1 parish so that may be a thin argument for keeping but given such articles don't tend to exist its unlikely it would be useful for this and the parishes themselves would be a better way of navigating. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:20, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2023–24 Premiership Rugby Table[edit]

I replaced the template on 2023–24 Premiership Rugby with Module:Sports table/Rugby, the template is not needed as no other Premiership season articles use a template and all the ones from the last 10+ years use Module:Sports table/Rugby. LouisOrr27 (talk) 17:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2023–24 LEN Euro Cup knockout stage bracket[edit]

Unused, implemented directly in articles with WP:LST. – Pbrks (t·c) 14:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:R from gap in series[edit]

Rarely used RCAT. Almost all of the redirects tagged with this RCAT are redirects to sections about particular countries in annual Eurovision contest articles. Additionally, the instructions are contradictory: the RCAT says it is for topics that "do[] not meet notability requirements to warrant [their] own article[s]", but then says that it should be tagged with {{R with possibilities}} if the topic could be notable. All of these redirects can be sufficiently handled by {{R to subtopic}} and, as appropriate, {{R to section}}. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: notified WikiProject Redirect. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 02:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User warning templates by 71211.21User[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted per G5. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 13:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to simply be worse versions of existing warning templates, often riddled with grammatical errors. No real purpose for these templates to exist. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 12:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete, exact same behavior as now-blocked User:User2802.172 (likely sock of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/User 28062F033EOF457DC93EEFAABBET2C3). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I had a hunch this was someone's sock. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 12:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for finding this one! I just reported it at SPI. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see you just blocked it already. Good call. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Miscellany[edit]

Deletion review[edit]

Wikipedia:No queerphobes[edit]

Wikipedia:No queerphobes (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

I respectfully request that the community overturn the good faith close by ScottishFinnishRadish to No Consensus on the grounds that the discussion was irretrievably prejudiced by selective notifications of the discussion. In particular the notification of the LGBT noticeboard by Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist and the WP:DISCRIMINATION by MikutoH. I note that YNFS has advanced an argument that her notifications were within the bounds of WP:APPNOTE. While arguably within a strict reading of guidelines, it still had the effect of prejudicing the discussion. The latter notification is even more problematic, and do not believe it is defensible under PG. I do not intend to belabor this as it has been discussed exhaustively both on my talk page and at SFR's talk page (currently at the bottom). In summary, my position is that you cannot have a fair discussion and an accurate reading of community consensus when there have been notifications made to editors and forums that as a matter of commonsense are going to disproportionately generate support for one side of a discussion/debate. I will conclude by noting that I am not asking for the page to be deleted. Even heavily discounting the Keep !votes it is obvious that no consensus for that exists. Nor do I currently plan to renominate the essay as I do not believe it would be productive. And in any event the essay has evolved significantly since my original nomination. I still disagree with it and most of the related "No..." essays, but I am not confident that it merits deletion in its current iteration. I have had a number of people on both sides of this express differing opinions on the concerns raised above, and obviously, I have a strong opinion or I would not be here. But I will defer to the community's judgement. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:52, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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