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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 14 May 2022 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of awards and nominations received by Daddy Yankee[edit]

List of awards and nominations received by Daddy Yankee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Brankestein (talk) 01:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it wasn't promoted in 2017 and I have since followed the comments made by the reviewer in order to improve the list. Comparing it to that version, I think it now meets the criteria. Brankestein (talk) 01:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your comment. Is there a discussion about the format's change? I would like to read it.--Brankestein (talk) 17:43, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly don't know, but I will take a look around. I do know, though, that every "awards and nominations" list promoted to FL for at least the last three years has used the "one table" format..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:35, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can see, the change can be traced to this FLC from 2018..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:05, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much!--Brankestein (talk) 16:05, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
More comments
  • "80....28....nine" - as these are all in the same sentence and directly comparable, they should all be written as numbers
  • "eight Billboard Music Awards—the most by any Latin artist—," - that "-," looks really weird, is there a way to avoid that? It also occurs a bit further on
  • Wikilink reggaeton
  • "garnering his first and only recipient" - recipient is not the right word here. Probably just say "his first and only win"
  • "Daddy Yankee received the Latin Songwriter of the Year award by the" => "Daddy Yankee received the Latin Songwriter of the Year award from the"
  • In the table, all the entries starting with a " sort at the top followed by everything else. They should all sort based on the first actual letter(s), ignoring punctuation marks
  • The Big Boss Tour should sort under B
  • As the table is sortable, anything that is linked should be linked every time
  • Notes d and e should not have full stops as they are not complete sentences
  • "As of April 2018, the stream count for "Despacito" is 7.5 billion" - that was nearly four years ago, is there not a more up to date figure? If not, change "is" to "was"
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:26, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for your input! :) I have followed your comments, but is there a quick way to link everything? Also, I'm not managing to sort "¿Qué Tengo Que Hacer?" correctly, possibly due to the "¿". (EDIT: Nevermind, I just kind of sorted that song successfully). --Brankestein (talk) 00:09, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I added a bunch of links for you. Usually when I need to add a load of links to the same thing, I open the page to edit, copy the appropriate chunk into WordPad and then do a search and replace. So I copied the whole of the table then did a s+r to replace "|Daddy Yankee" with "|[[Daddy Yankee]]" and it linked them all in one go -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:41, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot! :) --Brankestein (talk) 12:56, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I also fixed the sorting for "Despacito" but the other song titles still need doing so that they sort based on just the words, not including the inverted commas..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:38, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I sorted the rest of the songs but "El Amante" and "Problema", since they don't have Wikipedia pages, are automatically linked to wrong articles. Also, other songs with no Wikipages appear red and I can't add inverted commas without messing up the sorting. (EDIT: Nevermind, I resolved that). --Brankestein (talk) 21:51, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot! No sabía que hablabas español :P --Brankestein (talk) 22:00, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Google Translate es muy útil :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:27, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by AJona1992
  • Latin music should be wikilinked
  • Article is riddled with weak prose: "all of them", "but none of them won", "as the only one to receive a", "his non-album singles"
  • "without wins." - unnecessary
  • "his singles" - he is not part of any group, not sure why emphasis is needed here.
  • Didn't know they gave out awards for songs that earned the title "Latin Song of the Decade". This is a list compiled by Billboard using MRC data, it's not a separate award that is voted on, but a distinguished feat.
  • Not sure why Time magazine's annual list of most influential people is even mentioned here.
  • Since when are hall of fame inductions included in the list of awards articles? – jona ✉ 18:46, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments. Do you suggest to remove Billboard's "Latin Song of the Decade" award? Also, the Hall of Fame induction is included because Daddy Yankee received a physical award for it (the same goes for the Latin Song of the Decade award). --Brankestein (talk) 15:49, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am not familiar with any FL lists that contain that information. It is usually found in the artist's main article, that is why I found it strange. Unless any FL moderator or guideline suggest it is fine, then I'd suggest to remove it. – jona ✉ 16:10, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback. I don't know how to change "his singles". Maybe "the singles" or "the albums' singles"? --Brankestein (talk) 22:11, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am concerned about Note A, Billboard doesn't give out physical plaques for any music chart achievement and the Guinness Book of World Records did specify that he holds "the most nominations" not wins, which you wrote that he "had not received a physical award for those records." so not sure why a note is needed here if the record was for "most nominated" and not "most wins"? Did you mean that Daddy Yankee has never received a plaque from Guinness Book of World Records? Any reason why Notes D and E are missing periods? I also went ahead and c/e the lead to the area problems that were still present. – jona ✉ 17:01, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for editing the lead. Regarding the Note A, Daddy Yankee did not receive a plaque for the most Lo Nuestro Award nominations from Guinness World Records, while he did receive plaques for the records included on the table. The periods on the Notes D and E were removed following a suggestion by another editor. Brankestein (talk) 17:39, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Notes D and E don't need full stops (as I call them) as they are sentence fragments, not complete sentences -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:53, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification. I now support the article's nomination. – jona ✉ 12:40, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for your feedback and support. --Brankestein (talk) 22:00, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)[edit]

  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 19:17, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by FrB.TG[edit]

  • "He rose to prominence with the release" - suggest starting a new paragraph with his name.
  • "All of which were nominated" - this reads strangely when it's not part of an independent clause in a sentence. Suggest replacing "which" with "these".
  • I would probably mention (one/some of) the Grammy categories "Despacito" was nominated in since he was nominated for a Grammy only once and two of these are for the Big Four.
  • Why does the infobox only include five organizations? Either include all or refrain from the infobox altogether. This selectivity implies that these are more important than the others and pushes POV that we as encyclopedia should refrain from.
  • Source 1 - Billboard needs linking.
  • What makes chronicle.augusta a reliable source?
  • Source 6 - Access Hollywood needs to be italicized and linked.
  • Source 7 - latimes.com -> Los Angeles Times (and wiki-link)
  • Source 8 - PR Newswire is an unreliable source per WP:RSP.
  • What makes http://www.hispanicallyyours.com/ a high-quality reliable source? Its website is not even secure.
  • awardsandwinners.com is definitely not a high-quality reliable source.
  • Source 23 - same as source 7 (without wiki-link)
  • Source 35 - Telemundo needs linking.
  • Source 36 - AXS needs to link to AXS (company)
  • I haven't looked to the end of references but so far I see a lot of mal-formatting, some questionable sources, there is an instance of WP:SHOUTING and one source even appears to be dead with no archived link.

I am going to have to oppose for now because of sourcing issues. FrB.TG (talk) 18:14, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. I have followed your comments, linked the articles and replaced the unreliable and dead sources you mentioned. --Brankestein (talk) 18:37, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It looks better although there's still quite some work to be done. More comments below.
  • Source 4 - Tucson.com -> Arizona Daily Star and it needs a language parameter
  • Source 12 - the language is not Spanish.
  • Source 49 - QX needs to link to QX (magazine) and requires a language (Swedish) parameter.
  • Source 57 - BBC News needs linking.
  • Source 68 - iHeart → iHeartRadio
  • Source 96 - Remezcla needs linking.
  • Source 106 - Latin Songwriters Hall of Fame needs linking
  • Source 108 - Terra needs to link to Terra (company)
  • I'm afraid Hispanic PR Wire can't be considered reliable since according to the website, it's "a service of PR Newswire", on whose reliability I commented in my initial review.
  • Source 123 - Univision needs linking.
  • Source 140 is dead; Monitor Latino needs linking.
  • Source 151 - MTV needs linking.
  • Source 159 - WP:SHOUTING in title.
  • I am not sure about the reliability of HispanicAd.com.
  • Source 203 - the link is dead.
  • What makes latinfluencers a reliable source?
  • Source 221 is not formatted properly. The main link is to the archive link. We normally use the |archive-url and |archive-date for this and for |url we use the original link and mark the source as dead in |url-status. FrB.TG (talk) 11:32, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks again for your comments. I have followed them and it's hard to replace some unrealiable sources because the articles made by the awards' organizers were deleted and not archived. For example, I can't find an alternative article for the Tecla Awards nominations (the Latinfluencers.com one) because the event's organizers deleted theirs and the one I used as a source is literally the only one I can find. Brankestein (talk) 21:16, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sadly, this is not the first time where an online source isn't available for such information. I have come across this problem several times. We usually cite sources without any external links. This is not the ideal practice but it has been accepted in the past. See this for what I mean. FrB.TG (talk) 08:26, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I replaced the Latinfluencers.com source with the original title from the Tecla Awards organizers' article that was deleted. Brankestein (talk) 18:22, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Have you tried accessing sources that are normally behind a paywall? What I mean is, if you go through WP: LIBRARY, you get exclusive privilege as a Wikipedia user to access news articles that are otherwise unavailable to an average person. Specifically, I'm talking about Proquestv( free to use for us Wikipedia users)!as well as newspaper.com and newspaperarchive.com, which you can get access to by requesting. Erick (talk) 16:27, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Brankestein and Magiciandude, I personally searched for it both in ProQuest an Newspapers.com but found regrettably nothing for this. Brankestein, I have struck my oppose above. Although my review had a rigorous sources check, I would still like this to go through a formal source review before this is considered for promotion. Now that my concerns have been addressed, I can support this for promotion. I myself have an FLC on an awards page. If possible, review it but it's not mandatory in any way. FrB.TG (talk) 17:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot! Brankestein (talk) 17:35, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support by magiciandude

I 'support this list on the basis of sources being archived and the date format being consistent. Erick (talk) 22:17, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TRM[edit]

  • How do we know that licensing a screenshot from that professional video uploaded to Vimeo is covered by CC 3.0?
  • "Latin Grammy Award for Record of the Year " is overlinked in the lead.
  • Awards such as "El Premio de la Gente" which aren't deemed notable enough to have their own Wikipedia article shouldn't be included in a list like this.
  • ""De Vuelta Pa' La Vuelta"" is linked but redirects back to his discog while "Problema" is unlinked. I'd be consistent.
  • "Sígueme y Te Sigo" appears to have a lower case "y" in our article.
  • Likewise, the "en" in "Barrio Fino En Directo" appears to be in lower case for us.
  • Several spaced hyphens in the refs which should be spaced en-dashes per MOS.

That's all I have for a quick read. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:54, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments. I've edited the list following most of them except the awards without Wikipedia articles. I thought that any award could be included. Also, how do I check if an image is covered by CC 3.0? Brankestein (talk) 16:09, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't believe "non-notable" awards should be included. And If you can't check that image is covered by CC 3.0 then you shouldn't use it. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:29, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I replaced the image with one that is covered by CC 3.0 according to WordPress' Openverse. Also, to clarify, any awards without a Wikipedia page should be removed? (Does this apply to the Puerto Rican Walk of Fame and Harvard University's Presencia Latina?) Brankestein (talk) 03:28, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pamzeis[edit]

Hopefully, not gonna screw this up

  • "his third studio album Barrio Fino in 2004" — commas around "Barrio Fino" per MOS:COMMA?
  • "following singles" — ...uh, what does this mean?
  • "won every nomination he received for the song at the Billboard Latin Music Awards" — is there a... simpler way to say this? It feels kinda long-winded and clunky at the moment
  • "Daddy Yankee received a Billboard Music Award for Top Latin Song for "Con Calma". ... Daddy Yankee received the Latin Songwriter" — a bit repetitive
  • Per MOS:CONFORMTITLE, titles of works should be italicised in citations
  • Check for MOS:QWQ issues in citations

Hope this helps :) Pamzeis (talk) 23:52, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. I followed your comments but I don't understand if song titles should also be italicised in citations. Brankestein (talk) 01:19, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; song titles shouldn't be italicized in general and I don't usually see any italicization in reference titles outside of biology areas. It would be nice to have trans-titles filled in for the non-English reference titles, but that's not required. Promoting. --PresN 15:22, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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