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3 Revert rule[edit]

I understand that you can be blocked for breaking the 3 revert rule. But my question is this, What if alot of Vandilism is going on and I need to revert an article or my userpage for more than 3 times, Can I be blocked for this? Please let me know on my talk--
Sea dog .M.S 18:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you are reverting simple vandalism, then the 3RR rule does not apply to you. However, you should be absolutely and completely sure what you are reverting is vandalism (i.e. complete nonsense, pornography, etc.). If there is any chance that it is considered legitimate, you can be punished. Also, if a page is being hit by a large volume of malicious edits, you may want to let an admin know so that the page can be protected. —K e akealani 18:31, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse Table Of Contents[edit]

Is there a magic word to show the table of contents in reverse order? Or possibly some setting I could add to user .js file? Thanks. Sparkhead 19:57, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, this is not possible. Equendil Talk 21:42, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can I make it a multicolumn box so it's wider and not so tall? Sparkhead 22:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's the case in question? We can suggest alternatives if we know what we're dealing with. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 03:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not an issue at the moment, but in particular it's talk pages. If would be useful, if on talk pages, especially the longer ones, the TOC displayed in reverse order. Sparkhead 20:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I enable cookies?[edit]

Please let me know in simple words so that I can registre.

I suggest downloading and installing either Opera or Mozilla Firefox. Equendil Talk 21:41, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It would help if you told us what you are currently using. I'm using IE6 and my editing and cookies are working fine. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:41, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Main page search[edit]

I am a Wikipedia user and I would like to know how to make my page pop up directly when I type in my name on the search, rather than having to look it up in the index.. For example, when you type in "Snoop Dog" in the search, an article about Snoop Dog comes up, but my name, "Vstyle" won't even though I've created a page... What do I do?

You can type "User:Vstyle" in the search field, or you can click on your name on top of the screen while you're logged on if you want to access your user page. Equendil Talk 22:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What about when someone who is not a user wants to find me? and they want to easily see my page, how can someone find me without having to search the index? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vstyle (talk • contribs) 01:07, 1 October 2006

If you Sign Your Posts, people can click on your name and go to your User Page. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 01:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is an encyclopedia, become famous and someone will write an entry about you. Wikipedia is not the right place for self promotion. Equendil Talk 12:40, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image of magazine cover[edit]

It says on the upload page that images of magazine covers can be uploaded only to articles about the magazine. What about to the page of a short-story author, who has published primarily in that magazine (and whose name is on the cover in the image)? PaulLev 23:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Under fair use, images of magazine covers can only be uploaded to articles about the magazine. In my opinion, uploading to the article about the author would not be fair use as you would be using an image copyrighted by the magazine on an article not about that magazine. However you would get a better expert opinion if you ask at the talk page of Wikipedia:Fair use 61.2.23.74 16:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I was thinking it over, and, given that the author's page prominently mentions the magazine - indeed, almost all of the author's stories are indicated as having been published in the magazine - a reasonable case could be made that the author's article is also an article about the magazine. So I put in the image for the time being - but also asked the question on the talk page of Wikipedia:Fair use, as you suggesged.PaulLev 17:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say that's more illustrative than informational, which wouldn't be allowed by fair use policy. You don't need an image to show where they published. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fast access to recently listed,new third-party articles[edit]

Is there a quick wiki-link to recently listed new third-party articles? Bardwell 00:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what you mean by "third-party articles", but you can view recent changes here —K e akealani 01:03, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And the newest pages are available at Special:Newpages. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Rick, Just what I wanted! (Thanks also to Keakealani.) Bardwell 00:18, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Icon[edit]

Yes, even established Wikipedians can have questions. What is that little person icon next to one's username in the upper-left corner of the page when logged in? --Gray Porpoise^{Phocoenidae, not Delphinidae} 01:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I speculate it's just to help one realize that the links up there apply to you personally and your account, but I'm not sure... Maybe mine should be changed to a contemplative face now. Dar-Ape 02:03, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It would be neat to be able to change the icon in your preferences, or have special icons for administrators, bureaucrats, and normal users. --Gray Porpoise^{Phocoenidae, not Delphinidae} 02:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it only appears in the Monobook skin. When I preview the other skins in prefs it's not there. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 02:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Essjay's MonoMonobook gets rid of it also. —D a niel (‽) 20:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wrong email address[edit]

I just created an account (Evalpat), but I wrote the e-mail address wrong, so I can't confirm it. The address I wrote was evalpat@***.com; I should have written epat@***.com. I hope there's some way to fix this.

Eric Patterson

Simply set a new email address in the Special:Preferences, and you should receive a new confirmation mail. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 09:07, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

finance[edit]

what is swap agreement? discuss the various risk may arise from such agreements.

The Help desk is for asking questions about Wikipedia. Use the Wikipedia:Reference desk for knowledge questions. However, please note that you will not get help with your homework there. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 11:59, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

being added to the Native American artist list,[edit]

I am a new member and want to listed as photographer under Native American Artist—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rezfoto (talk • contribs) .

Every user has a userpage (yours is here) where you can describe yourself including that information. You can also place yourself in the category Wikipedian photographers by adding to your userpage this code: [[Category:Wikipedian photographers]]. The category Native American artists is not a user category, but classifies articles in the encyclopedia article space which are about Native American artists. In order to be added to that category, you would have to have an article posted about yourself. However, most people are not notable enough to be the subject of an article. Please see WP:BIO for our inclusion guideline criteria for articles on people. Note also that it is generally a bad idea to write an article about yourself. Please see WP:AUTO for more on this prohibition. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how to find projects related managment studies with case study[edit]

Hi

How to find projects related managment studies with case study.

You will not find such projects on wikipedia as we are just an encyclopedia. Please try searching google or go to your school library 61.2.23.74 16:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help[edit]

Hi, I have a question--What ranking do you have to have to delete a very contriversial and very degrading userpage? And how do you delete it compleatly? I am very busy but please let me know how on my talkpage--Seadog.M.S 15:45, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to not reply on your userpage but degrading userpages are not allowed on wikipedia. If its someone else's userpage, you may seek admin intervention at WP:ANI and request them to take action. 61.2.23.74 16:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Such pages can probably be speedy deleted based on the attack page clause. You can use the {{db|type your reason here}} tag to inform a administrator to delete it. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:20, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

sections in tables.[edit]

Is it possible to make the first column in a table be a section?

Column 1 of Row 1 in the table[edit]	row 1 column 2
Column 1 of Row 2 in the table[edit]	row 2 column 2

Placing the section code so that the TOC for the article links to the line on the table where that code was placed.

shadzar|Talk|contribs 15:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The "===" has to be at the start of the line (per above). This creates some vertical spacing issues. Depending on the context there are other techniques that might work just as well, but if you really want links from the automatically generated TOC I think this is your best bet. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That didn't quite do it as you can see by my attempt in the List of Avatar the last Airbender Creatures arcticle. It does funy things to the edit link for the section. shadzar|Talk|contribs 20:54, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question about Cairo[edit]

24.118.130.217 16:12, 1 October 2006 (UTC)natalie[reply]

Why is the city cairo not as important as it used to be??

You might want to ask this at Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities, and you might want to provide some more context (for example, if it's a homework question what kind of class you're taking). -- Rick Block (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DSP-1 disambiguation?[edit]

The DSP-1 page currently redirects to DSP (Nintendo).

DSP-1 is also the title of the world's first digital audio mixer, made by Neve in the 1980s.

The Institute of Broadcast Sound web site (www.ibs.org.uk) contains two Wiki sub-sites, one of which is the Audio Compendium. This includes an article describing the Neve DSP-1, which I have compiled from personal knowledge, documentation and interviews. There will be further articles dealing with the histories of other audio consoles and manufacturing companies.

My question is, would it be acceptable to insert a disambiguation page in Wikipedia with a link to the DSP-1 article in the IBS Wiki - and potentially to other future articles - or is it better Wiki practice to copy and paste my IBS article into Wikipedia?

It seems like a waste of web space to do so....

--GOMJohn 16:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The other wiki is not related to wikipedia and the content on wikipedia needs to be released under a free license such as GFDL. Hence its better to write a new article on the topic if it adheres to the Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines. But copy pasting is not a good idea as it may be a copyright violation which is not allowed on wikipedia. Also make sure that the article is not just an advert. 61.2.23.74 16:39, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is English compulsory?[edit]

Hi, while editing articles relating to Turkey recently, I noticed that many Turkish editors communicate in Turkish on the articles' and their own talk pages. This means other editors cannot understand what they are discussing. Are these wiki-communities common? Is it appropriate for me to ask them to speak english, or are they entitled to communicate in the way they want? Any guidelines relating to this (I can't find a specific wiki-law)? Thanks for the info. Yandman 16:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is considered good wiki etiquette to converse in english on the english wikipedia. You can ask them to converse in english especially if they are discussing an article so that others can participate in the discussion too 61.2.23.74 16:41, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They are certainly entitled to use Turkish on their own talk pages; on article talk pages, common sense should apply. If two Turkish speakers are trying to resolve an issue that has arisen between them, I don't see why they shouldn't use Turkish, but clearly if they want their arguments and conclusions to be taken into account by other users they would be better off using English. Palmiro | Talk 22:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User[edit]

Why can't you be a Wikipedia user when your not logged in to Wikipedia?

You can definitely be a user when not logged on. You can edit just like I am and you can read any article. However logging on gives you many advantages such as creating new articles, uploading images etc. 61.2.23.74 16:50, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Missing Contributions to Wikipedia[edit]

I have been contributing for months on a wikiepedia webpage for months with a few other users on Local media outlet personalities. Just today I came to check on it since I hadn't been notified of any activity on the subject only to find it missing. There is not even a deletion or edit log pertaining to the subject. It has been deleted/censored as if it'd never been there in the first place. I only get redirects to disambiguation pages. The topic was in line with the Wiki guidelines for posting and had been in use for months. It has now since disappeared. The links in my contributions page lead to disambiguation or not found pages. How do I revert back to when my page was not deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by User144233 (talk • contribs)

So, Special:Log doesn't show it at all? You still have some contributions in your contributions list, like one on Cubby Bryant. Are you sure you're not mistaken? Things don't just disappear on the Wikipedia. What's the article in question? -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 18:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All my other contributions are untouched. It is a single article that is missing. "Bartel_DJ" or "Bartel DJ" which now no longer exists and I can not access the history log for it. User144233 18:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Contributions to deleted articles are removed from 'your contribiutions list'. The article DJ Bartel has indeed been deleted. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DJ Bartel for a discussion on it. Garion96 (talk) 19:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note[edit]

I accidently deleted several questions on this page earlier today, which was pointed out to me just now. I've added them back, please make sure to check them, starting with section "PLEASE READ". Sorry about that. Equendil Talk 19:02, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Google Links OK?[edit]

Is Google considered a valid source? In the Freddie Mercury article there was a link to an article in CNN which is no longer there www.CNN.com. However, I Google'd it, found it and replaced the now dead link with this: [1]. It shows the CNN article in full. Is there a standard on this? Sparkhead 21:00, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Google itself is not a valid source, but a cache version of a now dead link like the one you described is perfectly fine as long as you provide the entire URL and don't just say source: "google.com" or "google cache version". - Mgm|^(talk) 21:16, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Generally, google cache links should only be used when they provide a HTML version of a PDF or other non-HTML format document. And note that yahoo search also provides cached pages, and often has ones that don't show up on google. Archive.org links are better used for pages that have gone away, as google cache links vanish for missing pages after a time. If you have further questions, please ask. JesseW, the juggling janitor 21:22, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Thumbnails not working for this image[edit]

For some reason, I can't get thumbnails to work for this image: Image:Full_24bit_RGB_palette.png (4096x4096 file). My guess is that it is too small in size (about 80 kB), so the thumbnail is considered "unecessary"? Either way, the height of the thumbnails show up as -1, and the image used is the full sized image.

Does anyone know the reason and a workaround? ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 21:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well one workaround is you could manually resize the image with an image editor. Use that small image for the article and on the smaller image's page put a link to the full size version. It's not very elegant, but it will get the job done. —Mitaphane _talk 02:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

edit shows under IP address, not user name[edit]

A couple of minutes ago, I logged in and made an edit to a talk page: [2]. The edit was recorded as having been made by an IP address - mine, I assume. When I then went to change the signature manually - without logging in, which didn't seem worthwhile as I was not planning to do any further editing - the edit was recorded with my username.

Why would this happen, and can it be fixed, as one of the benefits of logging in is meant to be that your IP address isn't recorded? If the edit is going to show as being made from an IP address, should you not be guaranteed to get the "not logged in" notice above the edit pane? Palmiro | Talk 21:54, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This probably happened because you were logged out while editing. There could be a number of reasons for this such as having your cookies disabled or opening a new window. 61.2.23.73 03:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

travel[edit]

how many sets of locks are there between the Ottawa River and The Falls at Hogs Back?

I think you may want to ask this question at the Reference Desk. This Help Desk is specifically for questions about using Wikipedia. —K e akealani 22:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Toolbox issues[edit]

I wrote an article in english, and a parallel article is also featured in the spanish-language Wikipedia. How do I make the "In other languages" tab appear in the toolbox, so people can read both articles? Thankies in advance

--Rodrigo Cornejo 22:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Use a Wikipedia:Interlanguage link, of the form: [[language code:Title]]; where the language code is the bit between the http:// and the wikipedia.org in the URL, and the title is the page title. Hope this helps. JesseW, the juggling janitor 23:01, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Would like to improve an article[edit]

There is an article on memory foam, and seeing as I've been in the furniture industry for 15 years, I consider myself very knowledgable on the subject. There are a few minor things that are missing from the article which I think need changed. How can I go about changing it myself or sending the appropriate information to the right person so they can edit it? It appearsthat it wason the cleanup list in January which is probably I can't go about changing it like a normal article.

Thank you matt

Your contributions would be most welcome, and you are particularly encouraged to edit articles that someone has tagged with a cleanup tag. To edit any article just click the tab marked "edit" at the top of the page and make your changes in the editbox. Feel free to remove the cleanup tag if you feel that the article no longer needs it. If you intend on making substantial changes, then consider leaving a note for other contributors on the discussion page for that article first (click the discussion tab to access it). --Kwekubo 00:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 2[edit]

maps[edit]

208.131.169.233 00:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)why doesnt wikipedia have aps or diagrams. I need one right now an its getting fucking late and my project is due tomorrow. This is bullshit![reply]

The Help Desk is an area to ask questions about using Wikipedia. If you need helping finding a specific map or diagram (which are actually quite prevalent across Wikipedia), try asking with a more polite tone at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. McMillin24 _contribs^talk 00:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We do have maps and diagrams, but if you don't tell us what kind you're looking for, it's hard to help. Also, you probably should've started looking a little earlier to avoid this situation. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stubs[edit]

What exactly is the difference between a stub and a full article? Is it pretty much up to the writer to decide, or is their a minimum number of words for an article? Thanks S.dedalus 02:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a great deal of overlap - but at least my definition of a stub is an article which doesn't cover the full scope that it could (and probably should). So, the number of words doesn't matter as much as the content and the article itself. Some articles just don't have a very broad basis of information, so a very short article might not be considered a stub. On the other hand, an article that covers a large subject (such as an entire country) needs to be quite fleshed out before I would consider it to be a fully-fledged article, even if it had more words than a smaller subject. But that's really just my opinion. —K e akealani 02:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might also find this helpful as a guidline. Generally, I consider a stub article to be at most a paragraph in length and not doing much more than giving a dictionary definition of what the subject. —Mitaphane _talk 03:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would consider the thing Mitaphane described a substub, and I would nominate anything that isn't more than a dic def for deletion. I think a stub is a relatively short article that misses key information to be optimally useful. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NOTOC[edit]

What does the above do? Thanks.100110100 03:38, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It removes the table of contents from the page it is written on. __TOC__ allows you to move the table of contents to a specific place in the article. MediaWiki automatically puts in a table of contents on pages with 4 or more sections, before the first section. Harryboyles 03:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, for more information, see Wikipedia:NOTOC#Table_of_contents. --MCB 05:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Technical problem[edit]

What's wrong with the search engine and login engine today? They keep failing. Even editing is a problem. When will it go back to normal? Frankie goh 05:56, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We are having a technical problem at the moment. Hopefully, it will be alright in sometime. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{L} 06:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

inserting a photo[edit]

I am creating a new article. I don't know how to get a photo of my subject from my documents to the create page site as I cannot do this with the usual email address. Is it copy and paste? I see that there is a toolbar option...Insert a Picture Gallery. How does that work? Thanks. Andrew

You need to use the Upload file link in the menu to the left, but make sure you read the instructions on that page careful. A visit to Wikipedia:Image use policy and Wikipedia:Image copyright tags is also useful. The gallery button can only make galleries for already uploaded images, but use it sparsely. Articles rarely benefit from having entire galleries of images attached. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how to move photo from wikipedia uploaded file to the subject (article) page[edit]

Hello again. I have successfully uploaded the photo I want to use for my article...it is on a wikipedia Image page. All fine and good, but how do I get it to the top of the page for which I want to creat a new article. I know I can't use email. I'm sure it is an easy process but this is unknown territory to me. Andrew

Put the image's name between double-square-brackets, like this: [[Image:SAVE0011 tmp.jpg]]. It's common to float the image at the side of the article as well: see Help:Image for some examples of the way you can place images more precisely. By the way, when commenting on Talk pages and similarly-structured pages (like the Help Desk), please type ~~~~ at the end of your comment (your signature). (Don't place your signature on articles, only on discussion pages). --ais523 11:01, 2 October 2006 (U T C)

I'm not sure if it points to the same place, but also see Wikipedia:Image tutorial. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Warning people[edit]

When you warn someone with one of the warning templates, are you supposed to sign the warning as well?

--Yaksha 08:25, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Signing warnings seems to be common practice. --ais523 08:32, 2 October 2006 (U T C)

Yes, you should always sign your messages, whether automated or not. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 12:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

Some days when I search on Wikipedia it is so slow and even sometimes IE can't show the page. What causes this--Seadog.M.S 12:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This usually means that resources are overstretched. To ensure that Wikipedia can continue to operate as snappily as you've come to expect, please consider a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation. Thanks, Tangot a ngo 12:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HI There...[edit]

Hi there... my name is Sari, i am 14 years old and I'm from Indonesia... I'm Imoeng's sister Imoeng... My brother asked me whether I want to join Wiki... So I decided to try. But I have a problem... I have no idea how to make a new article... So I was just wondering maybe you guys can help me

Thank you very much!!

pleeeeaseeee answer my question.. thanks once again...VenderBlue SS 13:05, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, please read our list of Very frequently asked questions. Thanks! - Tangot a ngo 13:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Add brackets to every entry on list[edit]

Hi, I want to check a list to see if an entry has a corresponding wikipedia article. If I highlight one entry and use the [[]] on the wikimarkup box the entry is automatically between brackets. The list however is 34 pages. Is there a way to automatically put every entry between brackets? Garion96 (talk) 12:51, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Use a text editor with support for regular expressions. Search for ^(.*)$, and replace with [[\1]]. Make sure it's set to one-per-line mode. You may need to change the actual settings for your editor. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 12:54, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ADMISSION[edit]

Sir,I have been trying to know when you admit student and how to apply - i mean the next admission, which dates does it comes up,but met a brickwall as your website has no info on the amission requisites, processes and in what manner.

thanks Ezeonu Anthony

Hi, you've likely hit the wrong site. We're Wikipedia, a free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, so you're unlikely to find anything of relevance here. Please find the website you want using a search engine. Good luck! - Tangot a ngo 13:07, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question about where find info.[edit]

Good morning!

Do you have info. about www.commercehub.com?

Please let know and thank you for your help!

My E-mail: <e-mail removed (we don't reply by e-mail, we reply here>

As Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, we unfortunetly do not have an article on every website or company in existance. However, if you really do want to find out more information on the site, you could always use either the Google or Yahoo search engines. You can also start a new article on it or request for its creation if it manages to pass Wikipedia's notability guidelines.--TBCΦtalk? 13:51, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need advice about a possible Wikitroll[edit]

A user called Potomacfever has been stalking my edits on two articles over the past few months and, I believe, has a political agenda in his edits. The first article is The Hype about Hydrogen. I did not write this article, but the author of the book happens to be a friend of mine. When I first saw this article, it was not well written, and I tried to improve it. Also, I split the author's biographical information into a separate bio article and expanded that using information available on the internet. Today Potomacfever put the author's bio up for AfD. Potomacfever continues to make accusations about me, and any responses I give just prompt more discussion about issues that are not central to the articles. Indeed the talk pages of the articles are mostly devoted to arguments between Potomacfever and me (and a few others) about issues that have little to do with the article. I would be grateful any advice. Regards, -- Ssilvers 23:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you have any solid evidence that he is stalking/attacking you, feel free to report it to an admin. However, after going through his edits, from my point of view he doesn't seem to have made any attacks or stalked you per se (see WP:STALK and WP:ATTACK), though neither has he been very civil [3].--TBCΦtalk? 13:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

using wikipedia articles in my website[edit]

I would like to know whether it is possible to use certain articles in my website and what is the procedure for requesting permision and how would I reference it on my website?

All text on Wikipedia is licensed under the GFDL license, which basically means you can use an article for whatever you want as long as you give full credit to the article's authors (a disclaimer saying that the text came from Wikipedia and a link to the article's history is generally considered sufficient), and you must include the full text of the GFDL license on your site (which can be found here). -- Ferkelparade π 14:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled question from User:69.250.187.194[edit]

Who is checking to verify edits that users can make to articles? If an error is found, how quick is it removed?

The changes are checked by RC patrollers, and show up at Special:Recentchanges. Some changes can be corrected very quickly; for instance, see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia&action=history (the Wikipedia article is watched by many users; watching articles is a second way in which vandalism and erroneous edits can be caught). There are also several bots (such as Tawkerbot2) which watch out for and reverse obvious vandalism (for instance, see Special:Contributions/Tawkerbot2 and click on the 'last' links over the left-hand-side of the screen). Also, anyone viewing the site (including you) can correct an error if they find it. --ais523 15:57, 2 October 2006 (U T C)

login doesn't hold[edit]

I would dearly love to become part of the Wikipedia community but my login doesn't hold. I read FAQs "Hey! Why was I automatically logged-out?" and "Log in problems"

I log in. Get success result. Then when I go to any other page I find I am NOT logged in. I work on a macbook. Checked the FAQ. I do have cookies enabled. Wikipedia cookies are not disabled. In fact wikipedia remembers my login info correctly. But yet the login does not hold through a change of page within wikipedia. Have tried another mac. The problem is the same there. Is there a bug in the site?

Would welcome suggestions.

ditworac 69.19.14.29 02:28, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How strange. You may want to try clearing your cache, since you might be logged in but it showing an old cached version of you not being logged in....although, it seems more widespread than that. You sure the login is on Wikipedia and not some other Wiki? I can't imagine what else it might be... —K e akealani 04:34, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the "Remember me" checkbox? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestions. Emptied cache. 'Remember me' checked. Still asked to login on next page after getting message 'login successful'. I am stumped. I had hoped to provide some flash motion graphics for article on Random Walk. I could never find out whether they would be accepted because I could never get to upload a file. Whenever I got to Upload File page I was requested to login even though I had already just logged in 'successfully'. Guess I am barred from contributing due to uknown technical error.

Well, for the time being if you'd upload it to a free file-sharing site, and then place a link here, someone would gladly take care of that for you. We'd of course want any help to the wiki that we can get so if you're willing to put a little more effort into getting your content on here while someone figures out this problem, I'm sure we can go the extra step to get it on here too :). Chris M. 22:00, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One possible solution to the problem may be to go via the alternative connection https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page (the https is a workaround that sometimes helps in these situations). --ais523 16:18, 2 October 2006 (U T C)

Help Me - Kenya flag[edit]

I am trying to download the flag of Kenya from the site. When I click on the .svg file to open the larger image, it doesn't appear. I have downloaded other flag images this way and have no problems.

Thank you in advance.

One possibility is that your browser doesn't support .svg files (what format were the other flags in?). Other than that, I'm not sure; it seems no different from many of the other images. --ais523 16:48, 2 October 2006 (U T C)

Vandalism (band)[edit]

Vandalism (band) appears to have been nominated for deletion, although the reasons for this are not clear. The article seems to have been marked for deletion in a clumsy fashion, so no place for discussion regarding this nomination exists. Can the tag be removed? Tug201 16:23, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The nomination seems to have been by a user who wasn't logged in, and therefore couldn't create a discussion page. They don't seem to have mentioned their reasoning anywhere else (I've checked Wikipedia:Articles for creation and their contribs around that time), and that IP also has vandalistic edits (but it may be dynamic/shared, so they may have been by different physical people); I think removing the AfD tag is the only practical option here, as there isn't any nomination reasoning. The alternative is to complete the listing yourself as a procedural nomination (nominate as normal, but then abstain in the nomination). --ais523 16:31, 2 October 2006 (U T C)

Perhaps they submitted a reason to WP:AFC for creation? - Mgm|^(talk) 17:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures[edit]

Hi!!

How do I add a picture to an article?

First, login and click "Upload an Image" in the sidebar. Upload the image. Then add [[Image:*imagenamehere*]] to the article.Wooty 18:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also see Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Archive a Discussion[edit]

I was wondering how I could archive a discussion on an article's talk page? It's gotten rather long, and we discussed and agreed it should be archived. I just wasn't sure of how to technically do it. Thanks! --Bill.matthews 18:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check out WP:Archive for that procedure. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 18:52, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect, thank you! --Bill.matthews 20:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help me - Get a new password with the same user name "Best Gamer"[edit]

Someone logged me out automatically and (I'm just a male person, not a female) when I was unable to remember my password and tried to submit a new password which it says E-Mail New Password, it denies me from sending a new password. Please, I definately need your help. And this history thing mistakenly put User:70.45.55.254 and I am not this user. This has got to be a mistake. Is there any solution? Best Gamer 2 October 2006

Your IP address is shown if you're not logged on. Please report the error message you get, as it's rather hard to help you not knowing why you're being denied a new password. Equendil Talk 20:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IP Of User?[edit]

I suspect that a user is creating new logins to make adverse comments and loading votes. Is there a way to find out a user's IP? Thanks. Americasroof 18:53, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only a handful of administrators can do that, check Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser, however, please try to sort out the problems by other means first. Equendil Talk 20:24, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your quick response. It's unfortunate some folks will hide behind such actions. Americasroof 20:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

help![edit]

how do i let people know that a few of the asp skill level templates are missin

i've only found this one {{User_asp-4}}

Honestly, I don't think this is important for the encyclopedia, you can use {{User asp-2}} though. Equendil Talk 20:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how to find medical terms and their break downs[edit]

i was just wondering if you can find any break downs of medical terms on this site if so please get back to me. thanks!

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, but I imagine if you look up the term you're confused about a definition will be present in the article.... Remember, though, Wikipedia is not for medical advice. Failing that, you may be able to try the Reference Desk; this Help Desk is specifically for questions about the use of Wikipedia. —K e akealani 20:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to check Portal:Medicine. Equendil Talk 21:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Leave wiki and go to NLM National Library of Medicine in the National Institute of Health. Go to MeSH Medical Subject Headings, either in Pubmed MeSH database. Or in the catalog on MeSH. http://www.nlm.nih.gov. Yohananw (talk) 09:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tabs[edit]

Is there a way to use a tab or something to space lists, the lists on my user page are long and they would work better as a two or three column list.A mcmurray 20:34, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can make use of tables, see Help:Table. I formatted the list on your user page on two columns. You can change it to three if you want. Equendil Talk 21:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Protecting Pages[edit]

How do i semi protect pages. I Put up the template but others can still edit. I am trying to do this to the Jew article. Please let me know on my talk--Seadog 01:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Answered on Seadog's talk. NielsF 01:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Counting articles in a category[edit]

Is there a tool somewhere that will count all the articles in a category, including all subcategories? I'm trying to work out the size of Category:Lists but just counting some of the subcategories by hand is an enormous task. Confusing Manifestation 01:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is actually more difficult than you might think since categories don't necessarily form a tree (i.e. there may be cycles). There's a list of tools on the toolserver here. CatScan can be used to generate a list of articles to some "depth" from a given starting category (which is close to what you're looking for). -- Rick Block (talk) 02:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

can't find my contribution. How to move text up on page[edit]

Thanks for your help. I contributed an article yesterday but can't find it in wikipedia. Also I am wondering how I can move the text up so there is not so much space between the picture and print. How do I enter it for categories (i.e. flag, anglican, etc)? Fredericton 03:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give us the names of the articles you're talking about? = Mgm|^(talk) 04:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Numerical Values for Alphabets[edit]

Dear Sir,

Can i get the Numerical values for the Alphabets A to Z?

Waiting for ur reply.

Cheers,

Somas.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. If you're referring to quoted HTML characters like A, try looking at ASCII; otherwise, you probably want to ask at the Reference Desk, which will answer factual questions about anything in the world (the Help Desk is only for questions about Wikipedia). --ais523 09:38, 3 October 2006 (U T C)

How to download Database of Wikimedia[edit]

Hello, How to download our wikimedia database.Please send me the links to (email removed to prevent spam)

Thank You, Shiva Rama Raju.

Try reading Wikipedia:Database download, which has the information that you need in relation to Wikipedia; if you're referring to your own wiki, you may want to check the MediaWiki website, or meta:Database dump, for the answer. --ais523 09:48, 3 October 2006 (U T C)

IS SEVIS FEE REFUNDSABLE[edit]

i had paid for the sevis fee through western union in kenya but never managed to get a visa, so is it possible to be refunded the money back and pay for the next sevis because am planning to school in america

You are asking at the wrong place. This help desk answers queries related to wikipedia only. But you could try the reference desk. They attempt to answer other questions -- Lost^(talk) 10:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to request an article to be watched[edit]

Besides tagging an article (for references, wikify, cleanup etc.) and hoping for some editors to have a look-in, is there any other way to bring the community's attention to an article? I picked up an article on the band Aashiq al-Rasul on NP Patrol last week and cleaned it up as far as I could. My main concern is that the author may be a band member (see his talk page for the concerns I raised with him, to which he has not replied). I don't know anything about nasheed, to know if this band is significant in any way. I'd like someone more familiar with the topic to make a judgment call on whether this article is okay, or whether it is deletable vanity and bandcruft. Zunaid 16:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are two possibilities; if you're really doubtful, use the Articles for deletion process (instructions), or alternatively use some of the templates here (which will attract the attention of editors via categories). --ais523 16:45, 2 October 2006 (U T C)

Hmmmm...I don't want to trample on the guy's first article by dragging it through AfD, and I have tagged it already....maybe a dispute tag will get more attention. Thanks! Zunaid 11:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Display defect?[edit]

Since morning, after logging in, I do not find the top most line which shows my name, discussion, my watchlist etc. I closed the browser (IE6) again and again and started fresh but in vain only. Any solution? -- VMO 03:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting that too, it moves to the extreme left of the page when my cursor passes over the "my talk, my preferences" etc bar. It just seems to have started now... Bronzey 09:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That sort of thing has been happening to me for ages. Some workarounds which sometimes work and sometimes don't:

Press Ctrl-F5
Visit a different Wikimedia wiki (like commons:) and then return to Wikipedia
Log out (if you can't find the logout button use this link) and then log back in again

These solutions have been known to both solve and cause the problem in the past; yhe problem seems to be IE-specific. --ais523 09:29, 3 October 2006 (U T C)

I've tried all those things and nothing works. Would it help if I delete cookies? This has literally just started in the last hour or so, and it's never happened before. Bronzey 09:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If I remember correctly, this is a known bug in IE. It happens to me on hi: There was talk sometime back of writing to microsoft. Dont know what finally happened though. -- Lost^(talk) 10:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To my great relief I just now found the missing top most bar when I clicked View in my IE6 and went to Text Size → Medium. In Larger or above the bar is no longer visible. − VMO 16:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

java[edit]

just hoping you could help me find information about java. thanks

Try Java ? Equendil Talk 13:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Collyer Brothers page[edit]

Hello!

At the bottom of the article, there is a link to a book by Marcia Davenport - "My Brother's Keeper". Clicking there, however, takes you to some cartoon-program page. I've done little edits like fixing typos, and sometimes restoring pages after vandalism, but I really don't know how to re-direct a link.

Hopefully someone can fix this! (The book is a great one,and has stayed with me for forty years).

Thanks!

Juggins

I have now created a red link there (My Brother's Keeper (novel)). Please go ahead and create the article. You will need to be logged in to create a new article however. -- Lost^(talk) 14:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to create an Infobox[edit]

I would please like to know how to create an infobox for Manchester is their anyone who can tell me how? King Konger, 15.:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

The easiest way is to copy an existing infobox and replace its contents. -- Lost^(talk) 14:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

colleges and universities[edit]

I am trying to download a listing of all colleges and universities in the United States. Is there a way that I can do this using wikipedia?209.51.48.71 15:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can browse Category:Universities and colleges in the United States. -- Lost^(talk) 15:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting an article[edit]

How to request an article?

Wikipedia:Requested articles. --ais523 17:13, 3 October 2006 (U T C)

How to download only golf course related pages[edit]

Hello,

I am designing a golf course web site.I am using wikimedia services for golf course details search items.Please any know the download database dump in this site http://download.wikimedia.org/ which link is used to download, under that all xml page links or all link pages need to download.If any one know these details please send me to <email removed>.

Thank You, Shiva Rama Raju.

This help desk is specifically for questions about how to use Wikipedia, not the Wikimedia software. I'm unsure as to exactly where you need to ask your question, but I can tell you with some confidence that here is probably not the place, sorry. —K e akealani 18:31, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Admitted deleter of wiki pages regarding New England[edit]

A fellow lover of the New England coast has deleted most of my additions to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebeague_Island%2C_ME . Reasons given were lack of sources, though obscure data I created was left in, unsourced. Another was bad wording, but the whole entry was deleted instead of just grammatical correction.Data that was well known and sourced was deleted, though an important commentary on the spirit of the inhabitants.

I am confused about this "no non-sourced data" thing... my family has lived on this island for many years. Being an island, there are VERY few websites that verify the things I've added. We're talking about data from our personal experience here, such as wildlife & nature, the unique geography, etc. But the external references are either non-existent online, or written so small as "asides" so as to not be worth citing.

So the only way to have my data NOT deleted on this wiki by this guy is to build my own website first, say the same exact things I typed into wiki last night, then link to it as some official "source"? PS... the deleter in question admits in his profile that he deletes alot... might be time to tone him down, as the data I and likely others add to this subject are HARD to find sources for, if even possible.

It's in our heads. Once we die, it's gone. And that's why I came to wiki. --JINZONINGEN 73 05:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Reliable sources and WP:NOT. The Wikipedia is an encyclopedia first and formost, not a home for anecdotes and "common knowledge". There need to be credible sources behind anything added here, or else it can be removed at any editor's discretion (see the first link, that's the important one). -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 05:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as I said. Other obscure data that likely only the islanders could verify was kept, no sources, while well documented info with sources, was. The deletion seems a bit nonsensical, or as he says in his profile, "fun".

Oh well, guess I'll have to scrape up some money so I can create my website, then be considered as a "reliable source" lol.

X D --JINZONINGEN 73 06:05, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss it in the article's talk page, possibly? -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 06:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even that idea won't hold. Your website is highly unlikely to be considered a reliable source. Perhaps you should scour for some books, newspaper articles or government sources. I would start by referencing those asides you mentioned though, something is better than nothing. Consumed Crustacean is absolutely right about info being removed at any editor's discretion. The burden of proof lies on you (as the person making the claim), not on the person deleting the info. Zunaid 16:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can't believe my eyes: first hand info is not good enough? It's the best. 169.132.18.248 19:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But it isn't verifiable. I can say that the Empire State Building is 6 feet tall, but that doesn't make it true. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 16:39, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How best to improve Wikipedia[edit]

I've been trying to figure out how to best improve Wikipedia since I registered but I am coming up blank.
My problems are

School takes up most of my time
I don't have much background knowledge so I probably couldn't edit something like Economy of Armenia without spending a bunch of time learning about economies and Armenia
Although I have access to the best local library (UCSC) I can't check out any books unless my mom comes with me (she is faculty and thus has the library card)

However I actually managed to find a bit of time (this entire weekend in fact) where I don't have much school related obligations so I can try to dedicate my time to Wikipedia

I can check out some books tonight but what is the best way to make a list of articles that I can check out books on and vastly improve? YoBub 15:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are various categories on Wikipedia that contain articles that can be improved; if you're interested in vastly improving articles, Category:Articles to be expanded will contain articles that need extra information; or look at Category:Stub categories, choose a sort of article you like to edit from the list, and try lengthening it from a stub to a full-length article. You may also want to look at Template:Opentasks for a short list of articles that need improvement, sorted by the sort of improvement needed. --ais523 16:04, 29 September 2006 (U T C)

You say you couldn't edit the Armenia article but that's not totally true. You don't need to know a thing about Armenia itself in order to correct stuff like grammar, spelling and style. Every day I edit articles where I know absolutely nothing of the article's subject but my English knowledge is good so I can correct what I mentioned above. Good Luck - Adrian Pingstone 17:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The best way for me to know what to do is just to hang around. I like to read the articles, so in doing that, if I find a factual error, or grammatical, syntaxical, etc, I just fix it. If I know anything about the subject, it would also be easy for me to expand a stub, add references, graphics, and more. If you know a lot of trivia, or just know a lot about a certain field (say, science), then you can hang around the Wikipedia:Reference_desk to answer questions and participate in discussion. You can go to the community portal and check out the tasks that need doing if you can do those. — X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve)18:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We can always use more help on the Wikification project. There's plenty of info and links to resources on the project page. Every little bit helps push back the 7000+ article backlog. As for other things to do, I'm a big fan of rolling the dice. JubalHarshaw 04:11, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Warnings on my User Page[edit]

Not sure where else to ask this, so forgive me. I add a link to the Derek Acorah page verifying a particular existing statement made there A user, Topov, has now added warning symbols to my page accusing me of inserting spam, even though the linked page is not commercial:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paulmoloney

The user themselves has no user talk or identification page. They have repeated reversed information critical of Acorah. Who do I complain to about this illegitimate use of the warning system? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulmoloney (talk • contribs)

Please create new sections at the bottom of the page else they will most likely be missed. Adding external links is generally not considered good unless the link has matter that is very useful to the article and cannot otherwise be added to the article. If you were verifying a particular statement, do it by means of references. Topov seems to be a new editor. Just explain to him what you were trying to do -- Lost^(talk) 15:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it turns out that Topov is a user who has been reverting all critical information on the Derek Acorah page. Now they have resorted to adding spurious warnings to the user pages of people who have added such critical information. They accused me of adding spam to the page, when the only thing I added was a reference to an external website backing up a particular statement. I have now reformatted all such external references (including those not by me) using the Wikipedia footnote system. The user Topov has refused to engage with any other editors either on the article's talk page or on their own personal talk page; a message I left for him/her there was deleted by them. Since I consider their warnings on my page to be false and done only to scare me into backing down, I have deleted them until such a time as they engage with other users in mature discussion. Can anyone tell me how I can escalate this situation if needs be?

P. - --Paul Moloney 11:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

where is my article, etc?[edit]

I posted a question today...where is my article, how do I move the text up so it is closer to the picture at the top and how do I insert categories. You wanted to know the name of the article it is Compasrose the International Flag of the Angllican Communion. Fredericton 10:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the link to the article: Compasrose Flag of the Anglican Communion. The categories need to be inserted at the bottom. For example if you want to insert the flag category, simply write [[Category:Flags]] at the bottom -- Lost^(talk) 10:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The reason the text is so far below is because the bottom half of the picture is white but very real. Equendil Talk 12:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is it really "compasrose" and not "compass rose"? User:Zoe|(talk) 22:56, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How long before a contribution is posted?[edit]

Hi - I contributed an article and I can't seem to find it :-) After submitting, how long does it take for an article to become viewable? I understand that new items are reviewed for acceptable content, but is this done before it's posted, or is the article posted and then judged?

Also, is there any record in my own account that I have made a contribution? 'cause I can't seem to find anything...

L brophy 12:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It becomes viewable immediately. What was the name of your article? Daniel .Bryant 12:18, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your contribution record shows that this is the only edit you made with this username. If you had saved an article, it may have been deleted according to Wikipedia:Deletion policy -- Lost^(talk) 12:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If we're thinking about edits here, it may have been made while you weren't logged in. Therefore it will be inder your IP address - the only way to find this (depending on your ISP) is for you to make a logged out edit somewhere (just leave a message on here, or my talk page), signing it with four ~'s - and then click on the IP shown in the signature, and then you should be able to look at the IP contribs, which may include yours. Hope this helps! 81.159.71.84 20:32, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

why is this doing this?[edit]

i am a unlogged user, (i don't feel like logging in), the thing at the top of the screen, link to the user's page, user talk page, user watchlist, contributions, etc. sometimes, i move my pointer up to it and it moves to the left side. why is that? --66.218.18.134 20:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC) (unlogged user)[reply]

When I'm not logged in, all I get is "Sign in/create account". I don't get the "my talk/my preferences/my watchlist...". --Kainaw ^(talk) 20:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

that's not what i mean. when i'm logged in it does that, rarely, but it does. --66.218.18.134 20:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's happened to me sometimes, too. Not sure why, though. -- TheGreatLlama ^{(speak to the Llama!)} 20:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be a bug in internet explorer. See here. Garion96 (talk) 20:20, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting... I get that sometimes. --Yancyfry jr 02:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

help template[edit]

Hi all. how does one read about the template which a user can add to their own talk page, to summon help when they have a question? I know that it is the template entitled help me, because i used this once. I just have no idea now how I inititally found it. Where is it described, documented, etc? thanks. --Sm8900 20:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're probably thinking of {{helpme}}. You can find out more at Template:Helpme. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 22:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Downloading Tomeraider file: cannot access page[edit]

I'm trying to download the latest Tomeraider dump but am getting a "page not found" when I click on the "download here" link on the page. What link should I use?

--Welmoed Sisson

Yep, you're right, the link to "Wikipedia in TomeRaider format" on TomeRaider does in fact seem to lead to nowhere. The page m:Data dumps#Where to go for help gives a couple options for obtaining help, though. Sorry I don't have an answer, but I hope that's of some use to you! ~Kylu (u|t) 22:20, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

referencing an article[edit]

My name is David C Saidoff. Would someone kindly instruct me in those steps involved in referencing an article?

<email removed>

If you mean adding references (cites) to articles, please check out Wikipedia:Citing sources, chock full of helpful information to article writers. If you're interested in citing Wikipedia in another work, however, you'll want Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia instead. Thanks! ~Kylu (u|t) 22:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed your email to protect you from spam; Wikipedia is heavily published and making your email address public here is making it very public. —K e akealani 23:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I want to know[edit]

Hi, I am in my final semester at uni and am doin a presentation on how to write business letters. I was wondering if i could get permission to put a link on my powerpoint to you website

No problem. Please see the above question where it shows how to cite Wikipedia, for your convenience. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 22:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excel spreadsheet[edit]

Hi

How do I creat a link to an excel spreadsheet I have uploaded? Is that format supported?

thanks, Jockosaurus

The list of file types that can be uploaded is at Help:Images and other uploaded files, and it does not include .xls files (so, no, excel spreadsheets are not supported). Unless you renamed it while uploading, I don't think you should have been able to upload it. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:12, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Creating an article[edit]

Where would I go to ask for comments on whether a particular website would be notable enough to have an article about it. I realize that users shouldn't create articles about their own site, or about themselves, ect. for the natural inability to be unbiased, so I'm looking for a place where I can get a lot of comments on it. Chris M. 00:33, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You could create an article in your userspace (UserMason11987\Articletest) or read WP:WEB for the guidelines. Wooty 01:19, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try the start now link at WP:AFC or perhaps Wikipedia:Requests for feedback. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:03, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Naval Officers[edit]

I would like to add my brother Captain Robert E. Claytor (Lexington, VA) to the list of Naval Officers and cannot do so. Can you do this for me? Do you need some verification of this fact? He was, in the mid-late 80's the Commander of the Naval Air Base in Guam.... Rita (Claytor) Royce

I'm not sure why you can't edit the page - mind being a bit more specific? Yes, verification is always a good thing - it would be best to cite a published source either on the internet or elsewhere that argues its notability. Generally, we don't do edits for other people, except in the case of articles to be created, so I'm not sure if that's plausible. —K e akealani 04:40, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please explain what article you are attempting to edit? We can't possibly have an article on every naval officer, that would violate our notability guideline. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube[edit]

Are links to youtube allowed? 68.149.157.248 01:53, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes. The relevant guidelines are at Wikipedia:External links. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 02:02, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

something else[edit]

I have read the current Wikipedia entry on the NYC Astor Place Riots. It has one citation (NY Tribune). I like some parts of the article (very vivid details). On the other hand it does tend to ignore some details (the Macready-Forrest dispute) and at least according to sources I cite, has some of the details wrong. I see my suggestions were ignored. Fair enough, but it does seem that something, if only the citations which you did ask for, might be included. Also the setting for the discussion. The Astor Place Riot was not some theatrical business, but a mark of the turbulent, immigrant, class-conscious moment which was to erupt more spectacularly in the Civil War Draft Riot.

I append my suggestion: The Astor Place Theatre (opened 1847) was a focal point of Anglophile New York society. Patrons were required to wear kid gloves. There existed some rivalry between the English actor, William Macready, and the American actor, Edwin Forrest. Forrest had been hissed by an audience in London while playing Hamlet. He, in turn, hissed Macready at a performance in Edinburgh. On May 7, 1849, the aristocratic Macready was to appear at the Astor Place in Macbeth. The more coarse, populist Forrest was opening in a different play further downtown that same night. Two Americans set about to create a disturbance on the opening night. Isaiah Rynders, who was involved with the Five Points gangs (largely Irish, and thus, anti-English), and E. Judson , who wrote cheap novels under the name Ned Buntline, spread the message that this was an occasion to assert American pride. Although the police were armed and ready, backed by the militia, the crowd grew. Macready’s performance was disrupted, but did finish. By the end, the building was being attacked by a stone-throwing mob of 10,000 workingmen and gang members. The soldiers fired on the mob, killing 22. A general source for this is Edward Robb Ellis, The Epic of New York City (1966). A specific source is Richard Moody, The Astor Place Riot (1958). The riot is referred to as illustrative of the violence of New York in the period of Irish immigration, and a prefiguring of the Civil War Draft Riots of 1863 (see Binder and Reimers, All the Nations Under Heaven (1995)).

I think you might have the wrong place. This Help Desk is to answer questions about the use of Wikipedia. If you want to change an article, you are welcome to...anyone can edit. Be bold and make the change. If you want to generate consensus first, you can post on the article's Talk page. good luck! —K e akealani 04:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

UTC Template[edit]

On my page, I want to dipslay the time in my time zone (MDT). And I put the right template (and it shows 12:49). It shows kind of what I want, except how do I make it show in a twenty-four hour format (or for it to say AM or PM if the 24-hour format isn't possible)? Thanks — •The RSJ• ^{(Main Hub - Rants)} 02:40, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

template:utc generates a 24-hour format. MDT is -6, not +6 if that's your issue. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:47, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm probably missing something but 15:02 is already in a 24-hour format. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The difference between -6 and +6 is 12 hours. At 02:04 UTC (the time of the comment) {{utc|6}} displayed 08:04 which is what time it was in Bangladesh and Kazakhstan, on the exact opposite side of the world from MDT, where it was 20:04 (i.e. {{utc|-6}}). -- Rick Block (talk) 13:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, whoops, I did do +6 instead of -6... testing it... 00:49, k it works... thanks everyone! Cheers — •The RSJ• ^{(Main Hub - Rants)} 22:18, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wikipedia database[edit]

i'd like to browse wikipedia offline.. can i download wikipedia database? (i familiar with mediawiki, i just need the database :)

Wikipedia:Database download has the information you need, I suppose. tiZom_(2¢) 05:14, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

external diff and edit[edit]

In your preferences, you have the option of checking "external edit" and "external diff". I tried this once and as a result couldn't edit pages any longer (my brower kept wanting to download the index.php file instead of process it as it normally would) so I had to revert it. I assume there are offline editing tools for Wikipedia which would use this feature. I have browsed around a bit without much luck. Can someone please expand on what the "external" options are for and perhaps recommend a few good editing tools ? Zunaid 10:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's a page about this on Meta at m:Help:External editors. It seems pretty complicated to set up, though, and doesn't have any recommendations about what editors to use. m:Help talk:External editors may be more useful. --ais523 10:08, 4 October 2006 (U T C)

Good grief! Almost seems more trouble than its worth. I suppose in the long run it pays back in terms of having MUCH quicker previews of your edits and saving bandwidth. They should seriously get around to writing a Firefox extension or Windows installer/Linux package for it. Thanks for the help! Zunaid 10:26, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image editing[edit]

Hi guys how are you? Just a short question. Can I edit the existing images on Wikipedia to make a new image? It is like combining some images into one. Probably I will need it for an Indonesian-related article. Cheers -- Imoeng 13:15, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What you can do is to download an image (via its image-description page; click on the image), edit it, and then upload it again; you can either upload it as a new image or overwrite an old one if it's an improved version. Be careful about licensing; it's simplest to use images which all have the same free licence to create the edited version, and upload the new image under the same licence, mentioning the original sources (using tags like {{GFDL-retouched}}; see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags). --ais523 13:26, 4 October 2006 (U T C)

Thank you! Imoeng 13:30, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Font size...[edit]

Hi wikipedia team.....can you please help me by telling how i can increase the font size in the wikipedia main page?? I guess this question is a bit funny but i am unable to increase the size and due to the small font size iam unable to acces to the information wikipedia is providing...so plz help me. Thankyou.

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This is probably due to the browser you are using. On Internet Explorer, go through View and Text Size on the menus to correct it. --ais523 14:31, 4 October 2006 (U T C)

In Mozilla Firefox, hit Ctrl-+. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 16:42, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how to become an administrater[edit]

How do I become an administrater?

In order to become an administrator, you will need to create a username, and then go through a process in which community consensus is gathered to determine whether or not you are trusted to become an administrator. Some sample standards used by the community for this are in a list at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Standards; it is extremely unlikely that you will become an administrator unless you have at least 2 months experience and 1500 constructive edits with the same username. You will also probably need to demonstrate knowledge of Wikipedia policies and not offend too many people, as well as showing a need for administrator priviliges. --ais523 14:44, 4 October 2006 (U T C)

How to Create a User Box[edit]

How can i creat user boxes, and where can i find a list of current user boxes and how can i creat a info box. thanks.

The information you need is at Wikipedia:Userboxes. --ais523 15:24, 4 October 2006 (U T C)

Unfortunately. Sigh. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AUSTER aircraft[edit]

I have several photos of Canadian war-time Mark V AUSTER aircraft operating over England and the English Channel that I believe should go into the Wikipedia 'AUSTER' page, as the Lycoming HO engine types (and subsequent aircraft profiles) are completely different from the post-war AUSTER gipsy-major-equipped aircraft listed on Wikipedia. How can I e-mail these photos to you? All info is verifiable.

Provided those images are not under copyright, you can upload them on Wikipedia and add them to articles, anyone can be an editor here. (See WP:IMAGES for information) Equendil Talk 20:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For sale by owner[edit]

I posted my home for sale online and I have asked them to take it off after it was sold. But they won't. It says in their agreement that it follows the act on your web site. I have had to chang my phone number because they will not take it off of their site. Please help me get it taken off. My house sold 8/1/2006 and they won't take it off.As of today there is around 3800 or more hits on it. Rita Goodwin

We are Wikipedia, a free encyclopedia. Please find the correct website on which to post your query. Thanks, Tangot a ngo 17:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Procedure Codes as opposed to Revenue Codes[edit]

I have been tasked with the job of creating a cross reference between Procedure Codes and Revenue Codes. What I am looking for is really very simple. A downloadable list of currently active Procedure Codes with descriptions that I can look at and know that it is nothing but Procedure Codes. Also a downloadable list of Revenue Codes that I know are nothing but Revenue Codes with descriptions. These two I could then cross reference in order to build a cross reference that would show for this Revenue Code you match this Procedure Code. If anyone can respond to this my email address is [redacted].

thanks

Unfortunately, I don't believe we are able to assist you. This is an encyclopedia, and does not provide software or databases for personal or professional projects. --MCB 21:27, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thumbnail generation error[edit]

I'm not being able to get thumbnails for Image:Gyroscope.gif. The server returns:

Thumbnail generation error

Error creating thumbnail: convert: Corrupt image `/mnt/upload3/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Gyroscope.gif'.
convert: missing an image filename `/mnt/upload3/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Gyroscope.gif/300px-Gyroscope.gif'.
srv##

This happened with all other animations I've recently uploaded, but after a few refreshs the servers did generate a thumbnail, so I find it hard to believe the image is corrupt. They seem to work fine, and in fact, the file in the server is bit-to-bit identical to the one I have in here. But for some reason, I can't get the thumbnails to work at all with this image. Anyone knows if there's a problem going on with the servers, or what should I do about it?

The animation is large (1.4 MB), so thumbnails are very important in order to include the image in article without abusive file sizes. Thanks for your help. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 18:36, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thumbnails here don't show anything for me either. I've seen a similar problem once, but it was just *one* thumbnail of a picture that wasn't properly generated (file had the header but no picture data), other sizes worked, and so did uploading the file with a different name. Most likely a random error. This however, seems to be a little more serious. I don't think anyone here will be able to provide answers, let alone fix the problem. This is something that should probably be brought up to attention of the wikimedia team. Maybe a bug report here : http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ Equendil Talk 19:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When you did get that error message exactly by the way ? Equendil Talk 19:14, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind my question, I tried to access the thumbnails on the server directly and got the error. Equendil Talk 19:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll upload again under a different name. Hopefully it'll fix the problem. ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 20:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, same thing. See commons:Image:Gyroscope_wheel_animation.gif... Maybe it's because of the size of the animation? (almost 200 frames, 480x360?) :/ ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 20:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I made it work. The animation was too long and big, so it was requiring too much memory to generate thumbnails. I reduced it to 44% the original size and half of the number of frames, and now the whole thing works ok. I'll probably have to re-do the animation later to smooth the movement now...

The software should return appropriate errors for this. Anyway, thanks. :| ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 23:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Using a possible copyrighted picture from within Wikipedia.[edit]

There is a picture within Wikipedia (google: Posthuman_Future and click on images), that I would like to know if a copyright exists on. I work for a Non-profit organization and wish to incorporate this picture within a program for an upcoming event, but do not wish to engage in any copyright infringement by using.

Please e-mail a response to: [redacted].

Thank you for your time and attention to this query.

L. Rhodes

For information, Image:Posthuman Future.jpg is the picture being refered to. Equendil Talk 20:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The image referenced is copyrighted and not under a license permitting it to be freely re-used. It appears on Wikipedia only under fair use criteria. Therefore, you will need to contact the image's owner, via the web site listed in the answer above by Equendil, in order to obtain permission. Permission cannot be granted by Wikipedia. --MCB 21:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

getting new password[edit]

My original user name was "engsfra" My password didnt take and i could not get a new one for that account as i did not have my email entered.

 i was forced to create a new name "healthprof" so i could get in. How do i get the computer to send

me a password for "engsfra" which i prefer to keep. i really dont want two accounts. Please answer on "healthprof" talk page. Healthprof 19:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use justification[edit]

What do I have to do to prove Image:Headshot America Ferrera.jpg is fully and wholeheartedly fair use?

The image is from a folder on IMDb that can only contain publicity images for actors. It can not contain commerical photos, such as red carpet pics, which have a seperate folder.

To prove that this was America's official image, I contacted her brother, her official site's webmaster. He talked to her, she agreed that indeed this was her official image for the time being.

I've done everything I can to prove the image was fair use, and eventually had a full extensive list of fair use justification on the image description page, yet Nv8200p, DVD R W, Quarl, and Abu badali all seem intent on killing it permanently. Until there is a resolution, the article for the lead actress in the highest rated new show of this US television season will have her character represent her, instead of her genuine self. -- Zanimum 20:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. —Centrx→talk • 20:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

helpme[edit]

i edited a page before signing up and so my ip was registered - can it be deleted?

No, we need it to keep a paper trail of who edited what, but it doesn't need to be deleted. Your computer sends it out almost every moment you're online and it's easy to determine if an IP exists. If you don't sign this with your name, no one's going to trace it back to you and you run no more risk from getting hacked than any other surfer. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hoa[edit]

looking for a page to start a hoeonwers assocation—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.35.172.5 (talk • contribs) .

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. Note that if your questions is related to starting a homeowner's association on Wikipedia, this would not be an appropriate site for that organization. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:23, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Link problem... just me?[edit]

I was editing the article on *batteries not included and tried to fix the link to what should look like ''[[Amazing Stories (TV series)|Amazing Stories]]'', but the link would not pick up. Instead, it is displayed in red as if the article does not exist.

Is there a known problem with the parser which causes this, or did I just do this the wrong way?

I left the link as ''[[Amazing Stories (TV series)]]'', which is wrong in this context but the link works.

Thanks!

Marc W. Abel 22:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When you tried to make the piped link, you wrote "Series" with a capital letter while it was a small one in the actual article. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Volusia error[edit]

How do i contact or ask a contributor or author of the item titled "Volusia error" what the source of the vote numbers is in the following passage of the item:

"The error cropped up in Volusia's 216th precinct of only 585 registered voters. A Diebold Election Systems voting machine showed that 412 of those registered voters had voted (a perfectly reasonable number). The problem was that the machine also claimed those 412 voters had somehow given Bush 2,813 votes and more impressively had given Gore a negative vote count of -16,022 votes."

I can be contacted at [email removed]

Thank you.

The text is in the first version of the article, submitted by user:Staxringold. You can ask about this at user talk:Staxringold. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can question content of an article on its associated talk page, as well; anyone who is watching the article or edits it frequently might be able to help you. —K e akealani 02:07, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

google[edit]

CAN I HAVE THE LINK TO THE SATELLITE VIEW OF THE GLOBE SIMILAR TO EARTH.GOOGLE.COM THANKS

Please don't yell; it's a little rude >.<; Anyway, this kind of question might be better suited for the Reference Desk, although I'm not sure if they can help you either. —K e akealani 02:57, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://earth.google.com/

This is the Google Earth website.If you need to download googleearth software into your machine and start to playing it.

Coordinate help[edit]

Can someone insert this information -- Latitude 39.98 & Longitude -76.10 -- into this template, and place it into Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania? I've been trying insuccessfully. Thanks! -- Zanimum 15:23, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, this was resolved, thanks to Abdull. -- Zanimum 16:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Citing video...(and using potentially copyrighted video)[edit]

Hi there. Two questions...one, how do you cite a video clip using the "cite web" template? I am wanting to do this because there is citable video media related to an article I want to edit. Two, am I legally allowed to cite it if it is on YouTube? I want to edit the article on the Immaculate Reception to reference a video clip of the play that was originally created by NBC Sports (which, for an article like this, is EXTREMELY necessary...plus it helps source a fact listed at the end of the article) and I'm somewhat unclear about whether using footage from there is a violation of copyright. I know a YouTube question was brought up a few questions ago, but I couldn't really tell from those guidelines whether this sort of video was allowed or not...even if it is, I still wouldn't mind knowing how to properly cite the darn thing. :) Thanks in advance. -- transaspie 05:41, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{cite web}} on a video looks something like this:

{{cite web|url=http://en.wikipedia.org|title=(its title)|
accessdate=2006-10-04|author=(author)|format=ogg (or some other format)|
publisher=(publisher)}}

which produces (author). "(its title)" (ogg (or some other format)). (publisher). Retrieved 2006-10-04. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help). The 'format' field is the important one when citing a video, because it indicates it as a video. For information about which sources are reliable, see WP:RS. --ais523 08:30, 4 October 2006 (U T C)

There's also a {{cite video}} template. Citing YouTube films can be okay as long as they don't clearly break copyright. If the video is available on the NBC Sports website, that one would be preferred, but seeing as they probably aren't trying to make money of it, the video would disappear if it wasn't on YouTube. Especially in cases were videos are otherwise impossible to track down, YouTube is a acceptable alternative. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As per item #5 of WP:EL#Links to be used occasionally:
Linking to copyrighted works is usually not a problem, as long as you have made a reasonable effort to determine that the page is not violating copyright per contributors' rights and obligations. Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States.

Of course, as with all of Wikipedia's policies on copyright, it is better to leave it out than risk copyright infringement. And there have been previous incidents where CBS, the RIAA, and others have forced YouTube to take down videos because of copyvio. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:02, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, iirc, just because any copyrighted material is otherwise impossible to track down, or is out of print, does not negate the copyright laws. Reminds me of one of the reasons why the United States Supreme Court case Eldred v. Ashcroft started in the first place. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:10, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Good thing I asked about this then. Though it's a shame I can't use the video. Now I just to hope that I get REALLY, REALLY, REALLY (etc.), lucky and find a link to this where I can legitimately claim fair use for it. I'm pretty sure the user at YT who hosts the video is not deliberately trying to violate a rule, but for every one that doesn't, there's...oh, I'm guessing one thousand that do? So I understand that you can't make exceptions there...though naturally, I wished you guys would! :) -- transaspie 07:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC) (Smiling through tears because I now have to figure out Plan B with fixing the article...and that's gonna be hard.)[reply]

Unable to access several pages[edit]

~~I believe my ISP is encountering connectivity problems to one (or possibly more) Wikipedia servers, here's a list of pages that I'm unable to access:~~

~~Can any admin help me out by pointing out what servers these pages reside on? I can view the pages through a roundabout process (such as adding ?action=purge to the back of the URL).~~

~~--DeAceShooter 14:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)~~[reply]

This issue has been resolved by my ISP.

--DeAceShooter 06:11, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help with an article Nose grease[edit]

I don't know where to post this; a lot of the info in the article looks dubious. I tagged with fact and tagged the article with a sources template but if it really is rubbish it would be great to get it fixed. Where would the best place be to list the article for checking? I'm actually tempted to flag it for deletion, but I'm a little bit chicken. :-) Anchoress 22:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't do that yet, there are some sources to be found. Google does turn up "only" 500-some results for "nose grease", but if you do "nose grease" photography you get 900, and nose grease gives you completely different results (and a helluvalot more, many or most of which are actually relevant). Honestly, I don't understand how Google generates its results any longer, but that's besides the point. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but google results aren't necessarily sources. I googled '"nose grease" cd', and got a bunch of blog entries and comments on commercial sites. We need a higher standard than that. Anchoress 22:24, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I realize that, however I'm just noting that it might be a little premature to simply nix the article. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and don't forget nose oil and "nose oil". Though I only see one good result out of those. I have no idea if any of these sources are particularily notable. I might help sift through it later. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say give the cleanup taskforce a go at it before you send it to deletion. Almost anything is fixable. It's just a case of finding the right person to fix it. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:38, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, OK guys, but I didn't actually post to ask for help deciding whether or not to flag the article for deletion; I posted to ask if there's a place where the article can be listed to get help quicker than usual for cleanup tags (most of the articles I've added cleanup and sources tags to haven't gotten any help after months). Any ideas with that? Anchoress 22:43, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt that there is, or it would simply become as full and backlogged as normal cleanup is. I was going to do a search on my University's subscribed databases, but my account is borked, and I'm not sure that I would find anything despite that. As it stands, I'm now thinking deletion might be the way unless someone comes up with some decent sources. Things can be undeleted if they come to that point anyways. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 23:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to tag articles seen here at the help desk for deletion (speedy/PROD/AfD), since the new editors who ask about what is often their first article might perceive it as biting the newbies, but this isn't the case with this article (the person asking is not the author), and frankly, it's the kind of thing that should be deleted as soon as practical. It's not remotely an encyclopedic topic, is hopelessly unverifiable, and consists entirely of trivia, silly folklore, and college drinking humor. I typically share Mgm's optimism about cleanup, but unfortunately not in this case. --MCB 23:23, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note: MCB has tagged it for deletion, which you can find here. Zunaid 09:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

clear search box[edit]

Hi - I have read and re-read the FAQ things and can't discover how to clear the history of my Wikipedia search box on the Wiki page. Is it simple but I have missed it or don't understand how to ask the right question to get my answer? Thanks!

The search history is a browser setting. If you are using firefox, you can go to tools>options>privacy>saved forms and click "clear saved form data now". I don't know how to do it in other browsers, though. GeorgeMoney (talk) 02:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think in Internet Explorer you can just use the arrow keys and the Delete button to remove them from the list. It's been a long time since i've used a computer that had that feature enabled on it though. ~ lav-chan @ 16:10, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Replacement of image[edit]

Hi, I have an image that I feel is far superior to one recently posted by someone else in an article about a architectural landmark building. What would be the best way to go about replacing this image? Tug201 02:44, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First, I would make sure the change isn't controversia (bring it up on the article's talk page if you're not sure). If you don't think it won't be a big deal, check out this for information on how to upload images to wikipedia. —Mitaphane _talk 02:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Upload it under a different name and change the link in the article. That way you're not permanently deleting another person's upload. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Username/Password difficulty[edit]

I tried logging into my username, Pele Merengue, and the password wasn't working. I attempted to email myself a new password, but nothing was being sent. Is there anything I can do?

I placed a help tag on the talk page for Pele Merengue if anyone can help me.

I figured a way around it. Pele Merengue 04:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

copying external PD sources[edit]

I have been observing several very common practices:

Putting a notice that part of the article has has been copied from XXX, and not indicating what part
Putting a notice that part of the article has has been copied from XXX, and copying the whole thing intact, without saying so.
Not putting a notice , but doing likewise

this is being done from Public domain sources, and is indeed legal, but it borderline in terms of ethics, non-encyclopedist in nature, and is taken outside WP as an indication of our lack of seriousness. When was there last a discussion of this? DGG 04:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give some examples (current articles, diffs, etc.) of what you are referring to? Thanks, --MCB 05:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I actually ran across this problem (or what i consider a problem, anyway) on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention page. The entire article appears to be copied directly from the CDC Web site... which i suppose is all fine and legal as far as intellectual property (since the CDC site is a government publication), but it does still kind of bother me. I was going to ask about it there until i saw a notice on the article's talk page saying that the article was derived 'in whole or part' from CDC material. Which, i don't know, i guess i assume means it's acceptable as far as Wikipedia policy is concerned.

Now that it's been brought up again, though, it does bother me for a few reasons. Firstly, the notice belongs on the actual article page, not the talk page. A notice regarding the source of the content of the article is not 'discussion'. But i don't know, maybe that was decided on long before i ever looked up the topic.

Secondly, i don't think it says anywhere what parts of the CDC Web site the majority of the text is taken from. There are a few references, but only to specific statements, not to the bulk of the article. (I assume each section is taken from a different page on the CDC site somewhere.)

Another thing that bothers me is... like DGG said, it doesn't really strike me as encyclopaedia material. What's the point of copying information about an organisation directly from that organisation's Web site (legal or not)? That's not an encyclopaedia article, that's not research, it's just copy-and-paste. The body of the article might as well just say 'hey, go to www.cdc.gov', because you'd get exactly the same information anyway.

I dunno, maybe that's just me. And the CDC article is the only one i've noticed this issue with, so i couldn't speak for how wide-spread a problem it is. But it does bother me personally. ~ lav-chan @ 08:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is Wikimedia Database Necessary to Dump[edit]

Hi, I need some help regarding the integration of wikimedia in our own website,as i am currently doing,i need a confirmation that shall i have to directly integrate with wickimedia or shall i have to dump all the Database from wikimedia into my Database and has to proceed,Please help me if any one knows.

Can I connect wikipedia by using the software that the wikimedia has provided to us.

Thank You, Shiva Rama Raju.

I would just get the database dump. That's what all the mirrors and forks of the wikipedia do. Depending on your application, an integration of wikipedia, might take much more time than you'd like.

And no, MediaWiki software isn't made to connect to wikipedia. —Mitaphane _talk 01:55, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I make my changes permanant[edit]

I have only recently joined wikipedia and am still quite confused as to how it works . My problem is that I made some changes in an article but a little while later the changes had disappeared and the article was back to its orignal form.My question is how do I make my changes permanent?

Clicking "save page" will save your changes. However, nothing is really permanent - your changes will be reverted if they are deemed inappropriate - check the page's history and talk page for specifics. —K e akealani 05:28, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Got a message saying my contributions were spam, but they aren't and there is no one to respond to.[edit]

Hi,

I've contributed to several of your Game Boy related sections, but I received the following notification...

"Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! We really can use new content, but some of your recent contributions seem to be advertising or for promotional purposes. Wikipedia does not use advertising in articles. For more information on this, see..."

I checked all of the links and my additions were well within the realm of what you consider okay.

Are we no longer allowed to put external links that are specifically related to the topic?

I'm sorry if this is not the place to ask this question but the message say to type {{help me}} at the bottom of the page for help, but there was no place to type anything.

Please advise.

D.S.

Probably the best way to figure out what you've done is to ask on the talk page of the person who posed on your talk page - usually they'll have signed their name, or otherwise you can find out through the page history.

As for using the helpme template, you can post that on your own user talk page and someone will come around shortly to assist you. —K e akealani 06:01, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New article[edit]

how do i contribute an article to wikipedia06:21, 5 October 2006 (UTC)06:21, 5 October 2006 (UTC)~

See Your First Article. You need to sign up for an account to create new pages or use WP:AFC. - 131.211.210.13 08:56, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

People posting porn on userpages under the "Wikipedia is not censored" banner[edit]

I'd just like to clarify about exactly how far the "Wikipedia is not censored" business can go.

I can't understand imagines on articles when they are relavent (so for example, a picture of a penis on the penis article).

But what about when someone has a gallary full of pictures that basically boarder pornography on their userpage, all under the banner of "Wikipedia is not censored".

The page in question is "User:Kingstonjr/Work Gallery", i'm not linking because i don't want anyone to end up clicking on it by accident.

as far as i can see, the person seems to be just taking advantage of the whole "wikipedia is not censored" business to create a gallary of pictures that boarderline porn.

Is this appropriate and allows? Are people allowed to have a gallary like this on wikipedia? I highly doubt many of these pictures are actually used in any articles, so they're being uploaded and displayed purely as a collection. Are people allowed to have stuff like this on userpages? Furthermore, i have a sneaky suspicion that many of those pictures also violate copyright policies.

According to that individual's talk page, they individual has had the gallary shut down before, and been told that it's not allowed.

Besides being not allowed, pages like this really worry me. The page gets a huge number of views, (more than 3 thousand a day, according to these statistics). The reason i found the page was that i used the statistics tool i liked to above to see which user pages were getting the most views, just because i wanted to get an idea about what the most popular userpages are.

And instead i get taken to a gallary of porn.

Not to mention, the gallary is titled "Work Gallary". Purely misleading.

It's okay to have a gallery of images you uploaded, but fair use ones are not allowed in the userspace. Any copyright violations and fair use images can be deleted from the gallery. Any images he didn't upload himself can be too unless he changes the name as to not imply he took it. - 131.211.210.13 08:53, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The page in question is indeed a bit off-colour, and IMO is getting a bit close to being obnoxious just to prove a point. The guidelines on user pages say that the stuff you have on your user page should be directly relevant to your work on Wikipedia, and in practice a small amount of personal stuff (eg some more information about yourself) is no problem. However, I don't see how this subpage can be in any way construed to being relevant to the user's work on Wikipedia. I randomly checked on some of his pictures and over three quarters of the ones I checked were only linked to his (and perhaps one or two other user's) subpages, and no articles.

My recommendation: first try and discuss this with the user in question. Leave a message on his talk page. Don't be confrontational, argue within the spirits of what Wikipedia is trying to accomplish. Point Images and media for deletion out (many (but not all!) of the images on his page will fall under these rules. Emphasise that this is not what Wikipedia is about, and that if he wants to create a pornography collection he is more than welcome to do this on his home computer or on his private website. You may wish to try a similar sort of thing with some of the other 'similar' pages to whom he links on his user page.

If your efforts fail, try to involve other users and get them to try and talk about this issue. Only if even that fails should you try a Request for Comment to see if you can get a consensus on the appropriateness of this kind of behaviour.

Hope this helps! — QuantumEleven 09:05, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts may also be a good place to try and get a quick outside opinion. — QuantumEleven 09:07, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe very much that something needs to be done about this "Work Gallary", but i don't wish to start an argument with this user. It's clear from his/her talk page that other Wikipedians, as well as admins it would seem, have had discussions with this user about it before. And if they haven't gotten anywhere, i doubt that person would listen to an anon. I will go post at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts, which will hopefully bring this "Work Gallary" to the attention of someone who is able to help.

editing the navigation bar?[edit]

So i just now found the Main Page alternatives and more specifically the editable Main Page, which presumably allows me to customise the Main Page to my liking and force Wikipedia to show it in place of the 'official' one using the JavaScript at the bottom of that first page i linked to.

And that's all cool and everything, but now i'm wondering if it's at all possible to do that with just the navigation bar (over there on the left-hand side of every page). I did some searching and i found like a proposal to change the 'official' navigation bar, and a discussion on how to change it if you have your own MediaWiki installation, but i can't seem to find a definitive answer as to whether a normal user like me can edit the navigation bar in the way that it seems i can edit the Main Page.

Is this at all possible? Even with JavaScript or something? I don't want to do anything fancy, just add like an extra box full of links under the 'toolbox' section. ~ lav-chan @ 08:11, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to get article to appear in search[edit]

I created an article called "Minkey (Mini Hockey)" back at the beginning of July but I cannot get it returned on searches on "minkey" or "mini hockey". Is there some magic which must be done to trigger the article to be searchable? The word 'minkey' appears in the title, and in the text both with and without a capital ... I'm lost.

Squeak(oz) 08:17, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not like a hard-core expert, but no, there's nothing special you have to do to get the article to be searchable. My non-expert guess is that, for some reason (possibly technical difficulties?) the site hasn't indexed the entirety of your page yet, so searches that depend upon the body of the article won't return any results. The page on searching notes that sometimes there may be a delay in updating the search index. :shrug: ~ lav-chan @ 08:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The first entry on the Wikipedia Very Frequently Asked Questions is the answer you're looking for. The internal index that powers the search function is updated very slowly (because it's so enormous), so it may take weeks or months for your article to appear. As Lav-chan said, you don't need to do anything special, the article will be added, but you have to be patient... — QuantumEleven 08:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article about ETUC (ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETUC )[edit]

Dear Wikipedia Staff,

My name is Daniele Melli and I work in the ETUC press and communication department (ref : http://www.etuc.org/a/129 ). I just have subscribed in order to update our page. I updated some data, but I could'nt put our "new" logo that you could find at this adress: http://www.etuc.org/spip/IMG/jpg/LOGO_PHRASE_1.jpg .

Could you please help me to do that?

Thank you

Daniele Melli

Daniele Melli Press and Communication Department (removed other contact details to protect you from evil spammers)

Hello! In order to use your organisation's logo on Wikipedia you need to upload it. Make sure to read all the instructions on the upload page, and also take a look at Wikipedia:Logos for our policy on logos. Once you've uploaded it, you can edit the page on ETUC to use the new instead of the old logo.

If you have any other questions or are having difficulties with what I've described, don't hesitate to post here again! — QuantumEleven 08:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the editor that uploaded the first ETUC logo, so I went ahead and updated it from the address you provided. I left a note on your talk page at User talk:Dmelli outlining the details. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee 16:27, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IP Address is banned[edit]

Hello, I have just found this great site and seen an error on a fact so I trued to edit it and was told Im banned. I have never been to this site before and have read it may be a shared server or something and someone else has been naughty. What can i do? Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Engineer73 (talk • contribs) 10:52, October 5, 2006 (UTC).

Hi there! This happens if your ISP shares your IP address with other users (AOL is particularly notorious for doing this) - so every time you connect to the internet, your IP address will change, and you may end up with one that was previously used by a banned user. However, you have now managed to log in (as Engineer73), which means that this should no longer be a problem - all the edits you make while logged in will now only be attributed to you and no-one else. Try editing the page again, if you're still having problems, feel free to come back here and ask again.

Good luck, and welcome to Wikipedia! — QuantumEleven 09:11, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to deal with a hoax[edit]

Which is the best way to deal with a possible hoax article? See Nicole Bennett. I cant find her or her albums on google or amazon or the record companys named. Also the history of the article is quite ridicoluos. Thank you!--VirtualDelight 10:12, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As per WP:HOAX, the article should be marked with the {{hoax}} tag and then nominated for deletion. ~ lav-chan @ 10:17, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MIcrosoft Word Research and Wikipedia[edit]

Hello, I would like to use Wikipedia in my Microsoft Word Research bar. Is there way possible to do this and if so how to do it? If you also have a link/instructions for OpenOffice.org that would be great.

Thanks Goedfinder 10:31, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My edits keep getting deleted...[edit]

Dear Wikipedia,

I would like to add a couple of external links, if possible, to the "Paul Morphy" page. I tried adding them without signing in, and then signing in, but they got deleted (presumably by an administrator) both times.

I was hoping to add:

Biography of Paul Morphy, his family and chess opponents Paul Morphy blog

The first site in particular has several pages all with good content that would be a useful addition to Wikipedia. Yes I am writing a book on Paul Morphy and the page serves to promote that somewhat, but no different from the other Paul Morphy external links.

The Blog link would allow people to post their own comments in a commmunity fashion and would be another external addition to Wikipedia knowledge.

Please can you let me know how to add these links?

Many thanks,

Matt

Unlikely to be an administrator. You should start by clicking the history link on the page. It will show you the comments from the person who deleted them (e.g. "don't think link is relevant", "not in accordance with Wikipedia policies in Wikipedia:External links" or "evil spam! delete!". Then if you disagree you could raise the point on the article's talk page. Please bear in mind that wikipedia is beseiged by spammers who see a great way to promote their stuff, and so people can be a bit trigger happy. Notinasnaid 14:59, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of featured article of the day[edit]

I thought there was some degree of protection used on whatever article was featured that day, (maybe I'm wrong), but there are malicious people with IP addresses only vandalising the Lord of the rings page, some of them pretty sneakily at that. Can someone protect it for the day or is it a job for the recent changes brigade? 149.155.96.6 12:55, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Main Page-featured article is traditionally left unprotected, to encourage people unfamiliar with Wikipedia to edit it. As well as RC patrollers, it's generally heavily watched by many users (including admins) just because it's on the Main Page, so vandalism to it tends to get reverted quickly. --ais523 13:01, 5 October 2006 (U T C)

I just read the reasons on Raul's page as well, although it is nice to be able to edit straight away, it could also be offputting to people if they see the history detailing just how many times it has needed to be reverted. No need to reply.149.155.96.6 13:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Signature Difficulties[edit]

I'm trying to get a unique user name. What I have right now looks like Mit kebes T , but that's a lot to type out. I wrote this under the signature section of my preference page, but when I add my signature it looks like this  Mit  kebes   T  13:52, 5 October 2006 (UTC). Wikipedia automatically adds a couple extra lines. I then tried changing my signature to raw link to prevent these lines from being added, but it said "invalid HTML tags". What do I do now? -Mit kebes[reply]

You may want to see WP:SIGHELP for advice. If you still can't get it to work, repost your question on its talk page. --ais523 14:15, 5 October 2006 (U T C)

I posted on your talk page. I'll try to help, you can reply to me there if you like. ~ lav-chan @ 15:09, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

URL blocking[edit]

Two questions 1. Is there any non-administrator tool that can be used to establish whether Wikipedia has links to a given site 2. What is the correct forum for making suggestions of additions to the "blocked URLs" list? Notinasnaid 14:53, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Linksearch is available to all users. --ais523 15:06, 5 October 2006 (U T C)
m:Talk:Spam blacklist (on Meta). --ais523 15:06, 5 October 2006 (U T C)

Ensuring an article appears on the relevant category page[edit]

I clicked on a category tag for the article "Harry Nkumbula", but the subject's name didn't appear in the category it's supposed to appear in, which is named "Zambian politicians". How do I ensure that the article "Harry Nkumbula" appears in the category "Zambian politicians"?

Mungo 15:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article is in the category; it's just sorted under H rather than N. You can sort it to the right place by adding '|Nkumbula, Harry' inside the link to the category (just after the category's name). --ais523 15:19, 5 October 2006 (U T C)

What is a talkpage and how do I find it?[edit]

I keep being told to check my talkpage when I ask questions here, but no one has indicated where the heck I find it. I've done searches, searched the site, everything.

Where are these mysterious talkpages?

Thanks,

D.S. —Preceding unsigned comment added by D.S. Cohen (talk • contribs)

Across the top of my Wikipedia page I see a list of things: my username, then "my talk", "my preferences" and so on. "My talk" is your talk page. Right now, there is nothing in it. Each article also has a talk page, which is the Discussion link on the second line. Notinasnaid 15:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Talk page might be helpful. —K e akealani 16:54, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

family tree[edit]

I am trying to research the Politzer family and have been told that I can find some of the members here? True and if so how do I get there? Karin Politzer

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --ais523 16:32, 5 October 2006 (U T C)

Unnamed question[edit]

I tried to add a new website to the travel websites category but it appears that I can only edit an existing website listed ther rather than add a new one.

How do I add a "new" travel website to Wiki?

-Mett

You cannot edit a category directly (at least not to add a new member to the category); instead, place a link of the form [[Category:CATEGORY NAME]] at the bottom of the article you wish to add (replacing CATEGORY NAME with the category's name, obviously :P ), and it will be added automatically. -- Ferkelparade π 18:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Add/Ad (?)[edit]

what would i have to do to plase an add please notify by email <email removed> or <email removed>

I'm not exactly sure what you mean. You were trying to add another external link but were unable to? That doesn't seem possible - I can only assume that the page is protected or semi-protected and that you mistook being unable to change anything with being unable to add that link. At any rate, you should try to develop a clear reasoning for adding any external links; Wikipedia gets a lot of spam, so people are generally sceptical of additions by anonymous or new members. —K e akealani 17:38, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you were asking about placing an ad (as in advertisement), you would edit an article of your choice and place the text of your ad there. You would then see your edit instantly reverted, and a warning would appear on your talk page to please stop adding further ads, links to commercial sites, or whatever. If you persisted in adding ads, you would probably see yourself blocked from further editing. Wikipedia is completely ad-free (it is run by volunteers and financed by donations), and we would like to keep it that way, thanks very much. -- Ferkelparade π 17:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Military Commissions Act of 2006 not showing up in "search"[edit]

Would anyone have any idea why? When you hit "Go" you get it but I would think it should come up under "Search" as well. Thanks... -Jay

This questions is actually asked so often that it has an entry in WP:VFAQ - basically, it takes a while before the search index is updated. Just wait a couple of hours, and all will be fine -- Ferkelparade π 17:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Table of contents[edit]

Help about Table of contents (TOC).How can i use _Forcetoc_ and where.If i use in this sintax doesn't work: _Forcetoc_(table of contents) text(headers)—Preceding unsigned comment added by XandroZ (talk • contribs)

See WP:TOC. —Mitaphane _talk 02:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All letters need to be capitalized to have a magic word like FORCETOC working, also remember to use two underscores on both sides. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:55, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User Page marked for deletion[edit]

Sorry to post this here, but I can't figure out where to mention this:

Someone has marked my user page for deletion, presumably based on one of my userboxes: The one stating that I identify as gay has a deletion box attached to it with the "concern" stated as "All Wikipedia users fit this category." Apparently I can't edit that out of my own userpage, and I assume nobody's actually going to review that. Could someone possibly help with this?

Thanks, Underorbit 19:12, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your userpage isn't marked for deletion. Template:User Earthling is, and because it's a template it's showing through to your page. Using a Proposed Deletion template isn't the proper way to go about deleting a template though (it's meant for articles alone), the user should have used Wikipedia:Templates for deletion. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 19:20, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

redirect issue[edit]

If you search "cast away", it redirects to "Castaway" the improper noun. However, if you click "(Redirected from 'Cast away')", it takes you to the "Cast away" redirect page which I redirected to "Cast Away", the movie/proper noun.

Why does the search of "cast away" take me to the wrong place?

Onionmon 19:21, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to work fine now - if you only just recently edited the redirect page, you probably still had an older version of the page in your browser cache (or you were served a slightly out-of-date version of the redirect page because Wikipedia's cache was not updated already when you tried). -- Ferkelparade π 19:35, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Forest Park Baptist Church discussion page[edit]

Maybe I am missing something. I googled Forest Park Baptist Church Joplin; one of the results was on Wikipedia. I read the article, and do not really understand the notability guidelines, but figured I would better understand what the problem is by reading the discussion page.

However, when I attempt to go to the discussion page, I am instead directed to a page with this message:

Editing Talk:Forest Park Baptist Church From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia We don't have an article called "Forest Park Baptist Church" Search Wikipedia for Forest Park Baptist Church - it might be called something else. ...but you can write it! Type in the box below and click save page to start this article. Your article will be published immediately. Create an account to have yourself listed as the author.

when I click on the link with the words "Search Wikipedia for Forest Park Baptist Church" the article comes up.

I don't want or need to write another article on FPBC. I do not agree that the mention of Rick Warren and his book needs to be in the Mission section, but that is not what I am looking for right now. I want to see the discussion to better understand what the question is on Wikipedia. How do I get to the discussion page?

Thank you Theresa 4.244.66.159 19:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Theresa, what you are getting is indeed the discussion page for the article Forest Park Baptist Church. It's just that nobody has ever added anything to it before, and so you get the chance to create it. So, you can type your comments on the article in the large empty box, and you are set. You might find Wikipedia:Notability (organizations) relevant. It is a rare local church indeed that is notable enough to keep a Wikipedia article. Notinasnaid 19:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, so that's it - the question has to do with the locality! :). Thanks also for the discussion page answer. I have never written or edited anything on wikipedia before, and so was concerned that I would replace or erase something I should not. I have done that before, unfortunately!

Thanks again Theresa 4.244.66.159 20:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming a URL[edit]

Hi,

I would like to rename the URL for an article that I contributed. How can I do this please?

156.80.122.170 20:13, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, you can't, without registering an account. Renaming an article involves moving the article page, which can only be done with registered accounts that are more than four days old (?) if I'm not mistaken. You have two options - one is to request a move, and the other is to register an account and wait until you are able to move the page yourself. I strongly reccommend you consider registering anyway, as there are many benefits to having an account including increased anonymity. Whatever you decide, hope this helps! —K e akealani 20:17, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography[edit]

Where can you find the bibliography on the page?

Most articles cite their sources. If there is a number in a corner (like this: ^[1]) of a word, clicking on it will take you to the source under the heading "references" from which that particular information was found. -- TheGreatLlama ^{(speak to the Llama!)} 23:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also note the "Cite this article" link in the toolbox on the left when you read an article. Most people who want bibliographies want them because they need to cite something. Still, it's probably a good idea to cite the sources the article uses rather than citing the article itself. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fix vandalism[edit]

The page on "Cornwall" has been vandalised. Can I fix it? ---Vernon White 23:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert, I fixed it. If you want to fix vandalism on a page, see WP:RV. -- TheGreatLlama ^{(speak to the Llama!)} 23:47, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Using a template from Wikia on my user page[edit]

Hi.

At the moment I contribute to Wikia (another Wikimedia project) a lot more than I do to Wikipedia. I've just set up a template on Wikia at wikicities:Template:User:Markdarb which I'm then using to have a generic template for my user page on all the wikis I contribute to at Wikia. By updating this one template I update every single one of my user pages at Wikia. I would like to use the same template for my user page at Wikipedia, but haven't been able to do so. So my questions are:

Is it possible to use a template from Wikia in Wikipedia?
Am I allowed to do this?
And if so, how can I do this?

Thanks in advance. Markdarb 23:54, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, you can't transclude templates from one project to another, though some MediaWiki wizard may be able to prove me wrong. If you're going to simply copy it to Wikipedia, though, I'd suggest making it as a user subpage and transcluding it to your main userpage. In other words, instead of Template:User:Markdarb you'd want to use User:Markdarb/myTemplate or other such descriptive name. Hope that answers your question. ~Kylu (u|t) 00:30, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On Wikia projects I couldn't link to a template if it was a subpage from my user page, so I had to do it as Template:User:Markdarb. One of Wikia's founders has done exactly the same thing as I have, and she advises other Wikia members to do the same thing if they contribute to lots of wikis on Wikia and want a generic user page between them all, hence I did. I don't really intend to copy the entire template across to Wikipedia as I could just as easily copy it all into my user page. At least not unless I could then fetch the template from Wikia, thus doing things the other way round! Anyway, it looks like I can't do what I want, but if anyone happens to know otherwise, please say so. Thanks. Markdarb 02:44, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i need this answer quick fro homework reasons please[edit]

where do you find the users that have been banned from using the page?

If you mean those users blocked from using Wikipedia, it's at Special:Ipblocklist ~Kylu (u|t) 00:10, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Peace by Marlene Ubau-Alvarez[edit]

                      PEACE

Our preciuos planet,our preciuos freedom heanvenly father give wisdom to our leaders.

Stop the madness and please stop the pain don't let us make the same mistakes againd.

I beg you Lord for harmony,peace,no weapens,no boms. Please heavenly father destroy all our guns.

                         Marlene Ubau-Alvarez

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.176.210.148 (talk • contribs) .

Those were meaningful words. What did you intend by putting the quote at the help desk, though? --Gray Porpoise^{Phocoenidae, not Delphinidae} 00:30, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright licensing question[edit]

Which copyright license would you guys use if a primary requirement is that the photographer needs to be properly attributed? The Creative Commons License Attribution-ShareAlike should serve this purpose, but how would the GNU Free Documentation License and the Free Art License compare? Shawnc 02:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I dont know about the Free art license but both CC by SA and GFDL are ok and require to provide the credit to the original contributor. -- Lost^(talk) 05:37, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(update) The free art license looks good too but the experts on this will be found at the talk page of Wikipedia:Copyrights -- Lost^(talk) 05:40, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I'll ask this over there. Shawnc 09:06, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a Reference[edit]

I have in my posession a book written in 1912, whose foreign copyright has expired. I'm in the process of digitizing the work as there are few copies in circulation. I wish to use some source material in it to write some articles about Russian Folklore and would like to add it to Wikipedia's knowledge base. How do I go about uploading this reference? Urek 06:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can upload the book to WikiSource. To write an article here, you don't need to upload it. Wikipedia is for articles, not copies of books. Even if it is out of copyright, you should make an effort to write it in your own words instead of copying as most books don't have the required encyclopedic tone anyway. You can cite the book as a source by using {{cite book}} in a references section. See Wikipedia:Cite your sources. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

problem in using telugu versioned wikipedia[edit]

dear sir , i am very thanking you for putting our telugu language artilces in your site. i found somany articles which are very useful to me and my friends. while browsing it became to understood the language. not in telugu , this problem arised when i am reading kannada and hindi. it is not possible to read ur artiles like in original language. so my suggestion is to improve the languge to understood users like me. please refer those local sites which are in that language. for example eenadu.com, vaartha.com, andhravilas.com are best sites for browsing in telugu.i hope u look my suggestion and provide help to me. and my email id is <email redacted> i can help regarding in this matter. thanking you sir. regards venky

Your suggestion is not very clear, but I gather that you are having difficulties in viewing Telgu correctly on your browser. Please see WP:COMPLEX for enabling Indic text support, which is required for viewing the articles in Indian languages properly. Also, do keep in mind that wikipedia is a wiki, whcih means that anyone (including you) can jump in and edit the contents. See Help:Editing for more.-- thund e rboltz ^(Deepu) 07:23, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you're having problems reading a particular language Wikipedia, you should mention it there. Most Wikipedias work separately from each other and despite popular belief, we are not the boss over the smaller editions. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:06, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures overlapping text[edit]

I am having a problem with pictures overlapping text. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattori_Ryokuchi_Park

Can you direct me to the correct place in the FAQ's about this?

Many thanks.

Try WP:IMG. Though, I'm looking at Hattori Ryokuchi Park right now and I don't see a problem. —Mitaphane _talk 11:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks but after a frustating 20 minutes, managed to fix it myself.

Hemerocallis help[edit]

I am recently retired and I am "joining" my wife in the garden. How I ended up on your website, I don't have a clue. I would like the name of a book to show pictures of Daylillies, and all the details. I am near computer illiterate so I am truly overwhelmed with your website. After I read the article I got sidetracked with everything and somehow ended up here. Thank you for your time and trouble.I am putting your site in my "favorite places" so this winter I can look into this mkore. Thank You, Chuck McCord

Hi Chuck. ~~First, you might be interested in our article on daylillies~~ (I think you already read that). There is also an article in our sister project, Wikibooks, on how to grow Daylilies. There are many book searching and buying online websites such as amazon, barnes & nobles and abebooks. This search at amazon.com reveals a number of books that might fit the bill. Finally, please note that though I have attempted to answer your question here, especially based on the fact that you say you are substantially computer illiterate, please note that this help desk is for asking question related to how to use Wikipedia. Knowledge question such as yours are really better suited for the Wikipedia:Reference Desk. If you have any further questions in this vein, please ask them there. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 11:30, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Possible revert war[edit]

QPRocky (talk · contribs) keeps inserting an external link to http://www.netsoccer.biz to Sensible Soccer. I've reverted it twice, because I do not think this Netsoccer thingy is relevant to Sensible Soccer, instead I feel it is linkspam. However, I don't want to get involved in a revert war over this, and don't want to invoke my AdministrativePower® over such a minor matter. How should this be handled? JIP | Talk 11:45, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I for one agree with you that it's external link spam and clearly so. The fact that the link is to a different video game also related to football doesn't save it from being utterly irrelevant to this other videogame. I would suggest as a first step warning the user with a series of {{spam-n}}s or, even better, a personalized message on his talk. The user may very well not know about page histories and have never seen your edit summaries. At least warnings or a talk page message will flag exactly why you removed the links, and provide policy links which might just get his/her attention. If that's not effective, and you don't want to escalate, you could try using time to your advantage. Just wait a few days and then remove. We all see how many people come here to make a one-off series of edits and then leave never to return. Maybe the Wikipedia:Harmonious editing club might be a place for further help on this?--Fuhghettaboutit 12:12, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not QPRocky, only a player of Netsoccer and a previously enthustiastic player of Sensible Soccer (which is in many ways very similar soccer game). The link was probably added to Sensible Soccer's page for the reason that the game creator ( QPRocky ) recognizes the influence Sensible Soccer has had in his work. He has stated that previously elsewhere, even calling the game free multiplayer version of Sensible Soccer.

When I started playing Netsoccer, I found it a fun game largely because of my past experience with Sensible Soccer and the games resemblance to it (compare to PES, FIFA, NSS, Kick Off and the resemblance is more than obvious), so I don't think the link was misplaced. Also it's almost frightening that the game has drawn so many players with "Sensible Soccer Rules"-mentality.

Of course the game is a bit different, being multiplayer, mouse controlled and all that.. but it can be seen as a good direction to continue after beating Sensible Soccer to the limit.

You people naturally decide what in your opinion is best for Wikipedia, but I just wanted to inform you that the link IS related to Sensible Soccer. Thank you, hope this message comes through :)

Why is my article up for deletion?[edit]

Hi. I posted an article on New Zealand based artist Angela Singer which has been tagged for deletion. I am wondering why. I was planning on submitting more articles on New Zealand and Australian artists but see little point if they are to be deleted. I have read the articles on the few other New Zealand artists listed on Wikipedia and I am not being picky but most are far less noteable than this artist. Thank you Dmdesign 08:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At the top of the deletion box in the Angela Singer article, you'll see a bunch of stuff, but the really important bit is "Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry..." Click on "this article's entry" to get to the discussion. This will include the original reason, and the thoughts that other people have had. (People generally write "Keep" or "Delete" but it isn't a vote). Please read the reasons carefully; you might be able to indicate that the original poster has made a mistake. (There is a link to WP:BIO too, which you need to read, as it indicates the general policy on whether or not a person "deserves" an article). Above all, deal with the specific objections, rather than coming up with unrelated justifications (which is what tends to happen, and doesn't help). Good luck, Notinasnaid 08:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you find examples of national NZ papers talking about her work? her work being cited by others notable people? If you can do that then you should be able to provide a pretty strong case for keep. The worse thing to do (and what many people do) is to basically say "well this is silly I know she's notable!!!". Drop me a line on my talkpage if you want to discuss sources and the like and I'll try and assist you. --Charlesknight 08:37, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the current deletion debate on this article, it seems unlikely that it will be deleted. ike9898 13:58, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Password Reset Spam[edit]

Yesterday I nominated a page for deletion, this morning I checked my e-mail and had 112 messages from wikipedia saying that I requested my password to be reset. All of them were sent from IP 69.50.208.4. Is there anyway to stop someone from using wikipedia to spam my inbox like this just because they didn't like my nomination? What is the proper course of action? Beatdown 12:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, not much can be done about it. Just ignore the messages. For reference, see WP:ANI#Email and bugzilla:6427. -- Lost^(talk) 13:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problems[edit]

Let's say that the text in the original version of an article is a copyright violation. No one catches it, and gradually the article changes so that it is significantly different from the original version, but is never rewritten all at once to eliminate the concern of copy vio. Is this OK? I ran across this situation at Construction aggregate. The text still might be a vio as it stands, but my question is whether continuing to change this text will resolve the problem. By looking at the edit history it will be clear that the article was based on a copyright infringement. (In this case I don't actually know for sure that the original version was a vio, but it is suspicious because the very first version had a lot of text). ike9898 13:55, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In such situations it's probably best to replace the article with a stub and start again. On the other hand, the original version doesn't seem to be an obvious copyvio to me (it was quite long, but some users draft long articles using 'Show preview' and then save them in one save). --ais523 15:29, 6 October 2006 (U T C)

Wikipedia keyboard shortcuts[edit]

Hello. A couple of months ago I suggested that the search box have the cursor placed in it by default on startup, like Google. I received a very polite reply explaining why not (though I can't remember it now and can't find the exchange!) which also told me that there is a keyboard shortcut like <Ctrl+I> - which I also can't remember. So...

What's that shortcut again please?
Is there a list somewhere of all your shortcuts?

Thank you for your attention; Charles Wroth.

The list is at Wikipedia:Keyboard shortcuts. To go to the search box press Alt+F (on Windows). (I've reformatted your comments above because the lines started with a space and so were being formatted oddly.) --ais523 15:12, 6 October 2006 (U T C)

Apache Junction Inaccuracy[edit]

There has been posted some completely inaccurate info concerning the City of Apache Junction. It needs to be removed. There are no topless bars, adult bookstores or clothing optional resorts in the City. Also, I'm trying to post factual info about the City but can't see it appearing. Please advise - Pat Brenner, Public Information Officer, City of Apache Junction, Arizona.204.229.37.2 16:22, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone is able to edit Wikipedia, with the exception of protected pages. However, your edits might not appear to appear because your internet is showing a previously cached version of the page, or your changes were reversed. You can check out the article's history and talk page for any signs of such a thing, or otherwise try clearing your cache. Hope that helps! —K e akealani 16:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for contributing. Your edit was indeed made (see [4]) but was immediately removed because you did not write in encyclopedia style. You are free as an editor to become involved with editing the page; or if you just want to post comments on the article you may use the article discussion (talk) page. I think it would be reasonable to completely delete the "fun things to do" chapter, as it is not sourced, and simply looks like mischief. Be SURE to put a suitable edit summary, and to leave the article still looking like an encyclopedia article. Thanks! Notinasnaid 16:48, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

article naming unusual problem[edit]

Regarding the article Matrix-assisted laser desorption/ionization. Is this article name a problem? Think that the forward slash makes the article technically a sub-page, which I believe is discouraged. How ever if you Google search, it seems that this term IS usually written with the slash. ike9898 16:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On Wikipedia (although not on some other wikis like Wikibooks), this isn't a problem. In the Article namespace, subpages are disabled, so a slash in the article name has no special meaning. --ais523 17:04, 6 October 2006 (U T C)

How to get rid of the info in my user page?[edit]

I would like to know how to get rid of the info in my userpage. Mainly because i don't use it anymore. If it could be done i would also like to know how to delete my account?

Thanks in advance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chris2006 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

You can request your userpage to be deleted by placing a {{db-user}} tag on it. (User pages are normally deleted at such requests, but talk pages are often left behind.) User accounts are never deleted but they can be abandoned (it isn't doing any harm just being there). --ais523 17:02, 6 October 2006 (U T C)

Password not being sent?![edit]

I was creating an account a few weeks ago, but had some problems (IP problems from my ISP). My username is Digerati . I'm pretty sure I provided my personal e-mail address. I tried using the "email a new password" service but I checked my e-mail and found nothing! I tried again and still nothing, I gave it some time and, yes you guessed it,nothing! There are 2 possiblities, I might have made a spelling mistake when typing my e-mail :\ or there's a problem with the sending! Please help :(

It's quite possible that you mistyped your email; it's also possible that your email address was never confirmed (check back through your inbox from an old message from wiki@wikimedia.org; if this is less than a week old you can confirm your email address with the link in that email, and if it isn't there then you definitely mistyped your address). However, your account has no contributions to non-deleted articles anyway, so the best option is probably to start a new account (check to make sure you get the email right this time). --ais523 15:26, 6 October 2006 (U T C)

Hm, is there some way you can delete the username and make it available again? To prove and confirm that it's my username I can provide you with my e-mail address (so if it was really mistyped, you can compare). I would really appreciate if that was possible. I never even recieved the confirmation e-mail, so it IS probably a mistyped e-mail. I'd hate to lose that username over such a mistake :/ Thank you for your quick reply :)

See Wikipedia:Usurpation. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

soil erosion[edit]

can you show me some pictures on soil erosion?

Yes, have you checked the erosion article? In the future, please ask questions unrelated to Wikipedia at the reference desk. -- TheGreatLlama ^{(speak to the Llama!)} 19:31, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting photos[edit]

I'm at the help desk because I don't know how to get photos and put them on an article I enjoy checking out. Any info?

See WP:IMAGES. -- TheGreatLlama ^{(speak to the Llama!)} 22:53, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted article[edit]

dear sir

i could not find my artcile imam jafer sadiq in search engines and also on website of wikipedia.com

pls help me in this matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hafeezanwar (talk • contribs)

No article under that name (or any version of it I could think of) has ever existed on Wikipedia. If you are sure you submitted it then it must have been under a different name. If you'd like to start it again, read Help:Starting a new page for more details on how.--Cherry blossom tree 23:53, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am serious[edit]

Is there any other way to make myself more famous and popular on Wikipedia, other than doing great edits or reverts and stuff? There must be some way to advertise my username and to make it well known to the millions of wikipedians out there. --DrZeus 23:28, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What are you trying to achieve - contributing to a free body of knowledge or bolstering your ego? If it is the former then knowledge of your abilities and aptitude will spread as you edit the Article space and add to the Project spaces. If it is the latter, then Wikipedia is not the place to be. Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles is a good place to start. (aeropagitica) 23:41, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ip aDDRESS INFORMATION[edit]

iS THERE A WAY I CAN INPUT AN IP ADDRESS AND SEE WHOS COMPUTER THE ADDRESS IS COMING FROM... NOT JUST THE STATE MORE SPECIFIC LIKE IF IT SAY bROOKLY NY AOL CAN I SEE WHOS SCREENAME?

fRANCESCA RUSSO <email removed>

It may be possible to determine which ISP a particular IP address is registered to, but I'm afraid information much more specific than that is usually difficult to tack down without special access, ISP cooperation, or inside information. If you're really curious, you could ask for more information at the reference desk. Luna Santin 00:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

UPC[edit]

Hi I am a UPC, Apostolic Jesus Name Pentecostal. I own the following websites: UnitedPentecostalChurchInternational.ws UnitedPentecostalChurch.ws ApostolicChurch.ws PentecostalChurch.ws NewLifeApostolicChurch.ws

I would like your thoughts on how to use them. I also like to copy some of you stuff.

Lets talk.

             Robert Ranniger
              509-935-7176

Uh..what? Wooty 00:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He wants us to call him about how he should be using his website, and about copying stuff from the Wikipedia. That's what I think it means, at least. For copying stuff from here, please note Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License, which MUST be followed if you're going to use any of the stuff from here. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 01:02, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why is my article being deleted?[edit]

Why is my article Blob A Jobs always being deleted (x01 *yu 2 =y )

Why is my article Blob A Jobs always deleted? 036gj&*^%"@#0 88.107.40.69 18:13, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why Why Why Blob A Jobs is released tomorrow and I would like to create an aricle about it. It keeps being deleted. Why? PS please answer quick I've got to go out in half an hour

From the delete log, it's been deleted because it looks like nonsense. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Please see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. You might also be interested in Wikipedia:Your first article. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:37, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I add a reference?

See Wikipedia:References, Wikipedia:Cite your sources and Wikipedia:Citation templates. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:32, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention, if this is about something that isn't even released yet, see WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Confusing Manifestation 03:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding redirect pages[edit]

I would like to add a biography of a semi-famous person who is not currently on wikipedia. However, the name of this person is already taken on wikipedia. My question is, when is it appropriate to create a redirect page (full of all the famous people with this name), and when is it appropriate to have one biography take the main article? Is it an issue of 'popularity', or the number of people who know of the person being written about? Thank you. 24.21.119.101 01:04, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. See WP:REDIRECT for your question. However, if you want to create a biography of a semi-famous person just also create a WP:DAB page. One article could be Thomas Tree (baseball player) or Thomas Tree (Governer). Just label these pages and create a disambiguation page called Thomas Tree for example. Add Thomas Tree Governer and Thomas Tree (baseball player) It is never o.k to create a redirect page when you are creating an article with the same name of a person already on Wikipedia unless they can be merged. BTW, don't do Thomas Tree. That was an example. :) Aqua fish talk 03:14, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, make sure that the semi-famous person is at least semi-famous enough according to, say, WP:BIO, to make sure that your article isn't just deleted straight away. Confusing Manifestation 03:17, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The point of redirects is utility (i.e. what is the user most likely wanting when he types in "John Doe"). So the rule of thumb is 'popularity' or what most people know that name to mean (e.g. Bill Gates goes to the Microsoft founder). If both (or all) subjects are equally as popular(e.g. Henry Jones), then a disambiguation is appropriate. If you're not sure about which person is more well known, try the google test. Put the subjects' name into google and see if there's a clear indication of search results going to one subject. —Mitaphane _talk 03:21, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Must I use WikiQuote for quoted material?[edit]

I have been editing the article on the author Jane Roberts and then another editor moved all the quoted material to WikiQuote. The quotes were short samples of her writing set off in a section by themselves.

Is there some hard and fast rule that says that all quotes must go on WikiQuote? I have not been able to find anything in the Help pages about this. My feeling is that if the quotes are not part of the article, few readers will bother to find them on WikiQuote, so they will go unread.

If there is an article in the Help pages about this, please direct me to it.

Thank you. --Caleb Murdock 05:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Separate sections consisting entirely of quotes are, I think, poor encyclopedic style and indeed are usually best off moved to WikiQuote. The best practice, where possible, is to integrate important individual quotes into the main flow of text, using them to illustrate the subject or describe her beliefs or style. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 05:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. I wasn't the one who put the quotes there, but I liked them there.

Another question is, how long can a quote be and still be considered an acceptable fair use? One sentence, several sentences, a whole paragraph?--Caleb Murdock 05:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Images[edit]

Two images I uploaded were deleted without telling me, so I have no reason why they were removed or why they were deleted. The images are image:horler.jpg and image:Crashburn.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sliat 1981 (talk • contribs)

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special% 3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=image%3Ahorler.jpg+, the first of those had a "non-commercial use only" license, which isn't acceptable. You can use the deletion log to check the other. Notinasnaid 11:39, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

acknowledging[edit]

How do I thank respopndents to one of my questions ? DangeoDangeo 11:00, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Find the answered question, and press the edit link to the right of its title. This allows you to edit the question section. At the end, type in your thanks, and press Save page. —D a niel (‽) 11:30, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you'd like you can give them some type of award. For answering a question, I'd suggest either Wikithanks or a Wikicookie. For either of those, respectively, you can use the following codes [[Image:WikiThanks.png|left|thumb|text you'd like to display in image's caption]] and [[Image:Choco chip cookie.jpg|left|thumb|text]]. Alternatively for either, you can take thumb and right out of the code and simply write a message in normal fashion followed by the image code. These would be placed on the user's talk page.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:33, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who decides?[edit]

Who decides whether an article that shares some of the same words in the title with that of another title, should or should not be redirected?
Who decides whether or not two articles that share partially identical titles should be merged?
What is there to prevent the hijacking of an article by someone intent on redirecting it to another article, which may be partially relevant, or not relevant at all, to the article that is being redirected? Bardwell 15:22, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The community decides by discussing and arriving at consensus. In this case, it seems to be an attempt at dispute resolution which is explained step by step in the link -- Lost^(talk) 16:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please Help Me[edit]

I have no idea what to make an article about because Wikipedia has most of them do you have any ideas if you do please contact me on User:Oxford88 talk page.

~~Replying on user's talk page (WP:RA)~~.--Fuhghettaboutit 16:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another user already replied:-)--Fuhghettaboutit 16:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copying material[edit]

why can't i copy any material from wikipedia?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.176.14.3 (talk • contribs) .

Can you state you question a little more precisely? Are you having problems with selecting text and copying it to your clipboard? If so what happens when you try? Are you questioning whether it is allowable to copy text and repost it elsewhere? Please give details.--Fuhghettaboutit 17:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What if someone is using the "F-word" on talk pages?[edit]

Hi, I try to keep tabs on most of the thermodynamics related articles. Entropy is one trouble spot, in that it and the second law of thermodynamics, conflict with religion. Anyway, three users, i.e. User:Jim62sch, User:Dave_souza, and User:FrankLambert are causing problems. The first two are religious advocates, e.g. they work on the Intelligent Design article together, and they are trying to push the original research of User:FrankLambert into the article, by writing up paragraphs on his theories and linking (9+ plus times) to his websites as references. User:Jim62sch uses vulgar language, e.g. said “Helllooooo???!!!! It really doesn't fucking matter”, on talk pages and is doing multiple reverts 3RR, e.g. he's doing reverts on both the article and on 95 kilobyte talk pages. Where do I go for help.

User:FrankLambert makes personal attacks on multiple talk pages directed at multiple people, e.g. he calls us “the insane asylum” and tries to dig into you personal information, such as calling professors at the school you went to. Conversely, User:Jheald, PAR, User:Nonsuch, and User:Yevgeny Kats, who are just your basic physics or chemistry researchers, have been trying to fight this corruption. Basically, the three questionable editors are trying to push website views of User:FrankLambert, who runs a bunch of "entropy.com" sites, into the article. What should I do, I was just reverted three times by User:Jim62sch? I feel as though I should just abandon the article and let them have their way with it? We have been forced to debate the personal theories of User:FrankLambert on the talk pages, over 250 kilobytes, for over three months now. Can someone help? --Sadi Carnot 13:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since Wikipedia is not censored, the use of particular "dirty" words is not itself directly against the rules. However, there are rules against personal attacks that may be being violated, along with other policies such as WP:NPOV and WP:NOR. *Dan T.* 13:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, we have been trying to point this out for months now. Basically, we have a retired chemistry professor, who is now a website guru with no published books or articles of his own, is trying to push is “original” theories and views into an article. Can I get an administrator to help? --Sadi Carnot 13:58, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If someone is making multiple 3RR edits, politely ask them to stop first, then place this text on their page: {{subst:3RR}} -~~~~. If they don't listen that time, make ie 3RR2. Go through the process until you past 3RR4, then report the person to the adminstration. But it rarely gets that far. -Patstuart 14:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest you prove the 3RR before engaging in spurious accusations. None of my edits have been a vio of 3RR. You see, 3RR would refer to 3 reverts on the article -- please feel free to point out these violations, I long to see something that does not exist.

Additionally, the size of the talk page is irrelevant, Sadi, what is relevant is that you are in essence blanking a still-ongoing conversation. That is a violation.

As for the topic of this section, Wiki is not censored. However, Wiki does stive for accurtacy, thus, instead of merely quoting one sentennce of what I wrote, the context in which it was written -- tendentious arguments being made against a source that meets both WP:V and WP:RS -- is important. You should, of course, include a link to the allegedly offensive comments, so that the full tenor of the issue is understood.

Re your comments about Frank Lambert, are simply asinine. They are also humouropus coming from a man who wrote to Frank Lambert, on July, 13, 2006 "one chemical engineer (me) is more knowledgeable than any three chemists (you) put together." [5]

In future, if one is to present a "dispute" one is best off presenting it fully and honestly.

Finally, there is no issue with WP:NOR or WP:NPOV, at least on Frank Lambert's part. If however, one looks into the rather frustratingly tendentious arguments that led to the allegedly offensive statement, one will note vios on the part of several other editors. Jim62sch 19:26, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

where are they now[edit]

Licorice Logking

Excuse me? Aqua fish talk 14:30, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean Brian "Licorice" Locking? --Kainaw ^(talk) 19:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The use of "many critics"[edit]

I thought that I remembered seeing in the guidelines someplace that the phrase "many critics" is to be avoided and instead it's better to cite a specific critic. But now I can't find it again. Thanks. TimidGuy 20:54, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe Avoid Weasel Words? — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 21:04, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes!!! Thanks much. TimidGuy 21:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

search and search history[edit]

I would like to stop Wikipedia from showing me a drop box with suggestions from past searches when I enter a search string. Can I do this? How?

Ask guys here They are software developers. Aqua fish talk 21:39, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That is a feature of your browser. There may be something in the preferences that allows you to turn that off. Without knowing what brwoser you're using it's difficult to say. --Cplot 21:47, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Categories on images.[edit]

I was looking at the category Visitor attractions in Greater Manchester and there is a strange picture at the bottom. After investigation, I discovered that the picture Kamikaze-ManchesterMSI.jpg had been given categories.

I removed them, thinking that pictures should not have categories. A few hours later, they were put back.

Rather than start an edit war, I thought I better check who was right. Can pictures be given categories? MortimerCat 22:22, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The ideal solution would be for the image to be uploaded to commons and categorised there. I have seen images categorised on en.wp. The vast majority aren't, but I'm not aware of any reason why they shouldn't be. --Cherry blossom tree 23:37, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

public domain artwork photo to be deleted...[edit]

i just spent a good amount of time uploading images for a particualr 15-16 century artist and now a bot is tagging them because there is no copywirte info even thought i specifically set them as pd, here's an example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wayfarerbosch.jpg wtf? AlexOvShaolin 23:15, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I'm dealing with it. Aqua fish talk 23:17, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thanx aquafish, but all of the images i uploaded are like that, even though i originally set them to pd, should i just remove the tag, or will they still get deleted? i can post links to them, but there is like ten or so images i believe...

Post links, please. Aqua fish talk 23:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't seem to have the right tag now; it says that the creator of the work released it into the public domain and is the one who uploaded it, but that's clearly not possible for a 16th-century artwork. Isn't there a different tag for works that are in the public domain because their copyright is expired, or the works were created before copyright laws existed? *Dan T.* 23:24, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TerrestrialParadise.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FallOfTheDamnedBosch.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Haywainoutside.jpg also i edited out the bot tag on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Ascent_of_the_Blessed.jpg&action=history so the pd info still needs to be fixed what should i do differently next time?AlexOvShaolin 23:28, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think Template:GFDL though I have no clue. Looking for it now... Maybe one needs to be created Dan. Aqua fish talk 23:29, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The images can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=AlexOvShaolin. The ones I checked all have the {{pd-old}} template, which is correct. Possibly it was an error with Orphan Bot, or possibly it needs to be explicitly stated on that page who the artist was - are they all Bosch? Other than that I'm not sure. If you take the tag off then they won't be deleted - if the tags get re-added then you might want to bring it up with Carnildo, who operates the bot that tagged them. --Cherry blossom tree 23:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i've added alot of images into wikipedia, but today they were all bosch. i guess i didn't mention that on all of image pages tho. AlexOvShaolin 23:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's strictly a requirement, but it was the only thing I could think of. If you remove all the warning tags and see what happens it should be fine.--Cherry blossom tree 23:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

okay, i think the reason is that i used the wrong tag, i replaced pd-old with pd-art, wiki has a very confusing tag system... thanx guyzAlexOvShaolin 23:44, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

games[edit]

dont we get to play warcraft or is it just a screenshot?

I am not sure what you are talking about however there are games such as this and Storytelling. Aqua fish talk 00:23, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article cleanup[edit]

How do I request a article for clean-up?

Just add {{cleanup}} to it. Aqua fish talk 00:38, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Russia Article[edit]

I'm not an HTML genuis, so could someone please edit the Russia article? At the very top, it now says 'Matt Pflanz thinks Russia is GAY' before continuing the article.

Much thanks.

You don't really need to know HTML to edit an article - you'd do so the same way you edited this page you ask your question. However, I'm sure many people are watching the page for vandalism, as it appears okay now. —K e akealani 01:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

editing article[edit]

I submitted my article just now but i'm not sure how to access it for editing. I need to change the description. it is a pdf with the name Degeneration by Lankester Murali284 02:17, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean you don't know how to edit it, simply go to the article and click "edit this page" at the top. -- TheGreatLlama ^{(speak to the Llama!)} 02:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you can submit articles in PDF format, so I don't know exactly how you managed that. —K e akealani 02:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that they uploaded the pdf as an Image here: Image:Degeneration by Lankester.pdf --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 02:41, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Viewing math formulas[edit]

I'd appreciate some advice on viewing math formulas using Firefox. Specifically, I'd like to read the Laplace Transform article, but I get the formulas in a markup language instead of looking nice and readable.

Thanks much.

I'm using Firefox as well, and not having any issues with that particular article. Under Special:Preferences (the "Math" tab), try setting your preferences to "HTML if possible or else PNG." If that doesn't work, "Always render PNG" ought to. McMillin24 _contribs^talk 04:23, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia e-mail address confirmation problems[edit]

Hello, In response to the link below, I only got the following message: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired. Do I have a problem in registering my account? Best regards, Rob Endert <email removed>

> De: wiki@wikimedia.org > A: Dutchguy > Objet: Wikipedia e-mail address confirmation > Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 06:37:45 GMT > Someone, probably you, from IP address 62.202.47.23, has registered the > account "Dutchguy" with this e-mail address on Wikipedia. > > To confirm that this account really does belong to you and activate > e-mail features on Wikipedia, please open this link in your browser: > > href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Confirmemail/49133c2b47eefda01a27d > b6f4687ffad>http:/ /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Confirmemail/49133c2b47eefd> a01a27db6f4687ffad > If this is *not* you, please do not follow the link. This confirmation code > will expire at 06:37, 8 October 2006.

If you request your password multiple times, only the most recent code confirmation email will be valid, probably for technological/security reasons. Not sure if that's your problem, though. —K e akealani 07:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Err, you shouldn't have used the "reply" button or whatever to look at the e-mail? Or are you using some text-based/CLI e-mail reader? The link was split across two lines by the happy triangles. Fixing that, I clicked on the link and apparently confirmed you. Hope that didn't just violate some sort of rule :O. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 07:10, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What Does `[[he:שילה (אתר במקרא)]]` Do?[edit]

Danke.100110100 09:01, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is an Wikipedia:Interlanguage links to the Hebrew Wikipedia. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 09:05, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help, but what bout & ?100110100 09:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is Wikipedia Metric or Backwards?[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Honda_Element&action=history

I was under the impression that Wikipedia was an archive of real knowledge, and that it would use SI units or at the vary LEAST soft metric in all its measurments. I have enough self centered,ignorant, I cant even convieve of what a cm is, nonsense in my every day life I do NOT want to see it infecting wikipedia. Please switch the page BACK to the correct measurments and let users know not to use American Customary units as nobody uses them but us and we should really think about getting out of our little mental sandbox and joining the rest of the world. Thank you, 71.34.80.157 00:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Manual of Style seems to indicate that in articles where the unit can be arbitrary, such as the one mentioned, should have SI units as the primary unit and the alternative unit in paranthese. If the order is disputed, put the original (source) unit first and the other one in paranthese. It doesn't hurt to have both units, even though those archaic units seem useless to most people outside the US. The specific guide-line can be found here. --Pekaje 00:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Saying that people who use american units are "backwards" and attacking them by calling them ignorant is no way to edit on Wikipedia. Please remember to be civil and work towards making the encyclopedia more complete rather than attacking the way some editors were raised an taught (often without option). In the defence of Americans everywhere, you ought to be happy that we at least have the education that we do and stop being stuck up because not everyone can afford to have a custom education in Europe. Thanks plenty. —K e akealani 01:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure that was supposed to be a reply to me, as I agree. However, this particular page seems to be heading toward an edit war. Someone has just reverted the page to SI units again, and cited Wikipedia policy as the reason. However, this is only a guide-line and not policy, and the person in question apparently didn't see the Conversions should generally be included and not be removed and other notes. So please, people, could you not just agree to have both units listed? --Pekaje 09:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Userboxes[edit]

Erm how do you position userboxes? 9693 03:40, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One way is to use <div> anchors. For example,


<div style="float:left">
{{Userbox}}
</div>

Will position the userbox to the left side, or right if you replace "left" with "right". —Mitaphane _talk 07:03, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Layout problem[edit]

In the article on Churchill College, Cambridge, in the "History" section, the last few words of the third line ("plans evolved into the more modest proposal of") are not visible. It seems as though they are "hidden behind" the photograph to the right. A less severe form of the same problem occurs in the following section, "Buildings", where the downstroke of the letter "y" in the final word "by" of the second line has been chopped off. I suspect that these problems have something to do with the use of the "clearright" template, but I don't feel competent to mess with it. Is there a markup expert in the house? Mike Field 05:45, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure exactly why this is happening, but the markup here is unusual. It may be a good idea to float the images by adding |float or |right inside the image code, but if you do this you'll probably have to mess around with the rest of the markup to get the page looking the same. --ais523 11:06, 8 October 2006 (U T C)

Is There Any Way To Make Something Underlined After The Outlink Symbol?[edit]

Ok, so if I have a link to link somthing out like the gay portal to the internet, a website for gays it will stop the underline at '...a website for...' and there will be a arrow coming out of a box after '...the gay portal to the internet...'. Is there any way to retain the arrowcomingoutofabox but still have '...a website for...' underlined in blue & still attached to the outlink or whatever its called?100110100 10:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's this slightly hacky way: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, which is produced by the following code:

<span class='plainlinks'>[http://en.wikipedia.org Wikipedia, the]</span> [[free]] [http://en.wikipedia.org encyclopedia]

I hope that helps. --ais523 10:11, 8 October 2006 (U T C)

raymond j. johnson jr.[edit]

I would like to see the laugh in person Raymond j. lohnson jr. that was popular in the mid 70s. can you direct me to that video clip?

You can try at http://commons.wikimedia.org though google videos will probably be a better option as this seems to be a copyrigted video. -- Lost^(talk) 13:38, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LINK[edit]

How do you link an image to a webpage???Chris5897 13:55, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A Wikipedia webpage? Aqua fish talk 14:11, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can just add [[Image:(title).gif or jpg|thumb|(left, right, center)|200px (any size)]] Aqua fish talk 14:13, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All images on Wikipedia are linked to their description pages here. There is no way to link an image to an external web site, as such a facility would tend to be abused by linkspammers. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No! I would like to link an image to a Wikipedia PageChris5897 14:18, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I misunderstood to TenofAllTrades. However, Chris I answered your question. Put [[Image:(title).gif or jpg|thumb|(left, right, center)|200px (any size)]] on the image. Like linking a picture of George Bush to a George Bush article, right? Thanks. Aqua fish talk 14:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks but i found what I wanted here

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Aqua fish talk 14:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adding HTML META tags for Article Discovery[edit]

I would like to add several HTML META tags to an article I have contributed, with various search terms so that the article may be discovered by search engines according those terms. How can I do this please? Or is there another way to do this within Wikipedia?

Thanks so much. Muzikman67 14:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's no way to do this. Most modern search engines now ignore META keywords anyway, so your best bet is to write good content. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 14:35, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you use search engines, you will notice that they index all articles on Wikipedia in rather high positions. There's no need to try and bump it up further. You also need to take into account that the "article" is not yours or your company's article. It belongs to Wikipedia and anyone using Wikipedia can edit it. The language on the talk page makes it appear that you intend this to be your article with nobody else adding information to it. --Kainaw ^(talk) 14:37, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Subpage[edit]

Given a page, how to list all its subpages? Thanks. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 15:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Prefixindex is what you are looking for. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 15:45, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please Clarify[edit]

Not sure what was meant by the following - can you please clarify what language you refer to?

"You also need to take into account that the "article" is not yours or your company's article. It belongs to Wikipedia and anyone using Wikipedia can edit it. The language on the talk page makes it appear that you intend this to be your article with nobody else adding information to it."

I stated that I contributed an article; nowhere did I state that I own the article.

--71.252.111.181 18:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was the tone of the talk page comments which gave that impression. If that isn't the case, then don't worry. Addhoc 18:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article Deletion[edit]

I just noted that the article "OASIS SOA Reference Model" has been deleted. Please clarify as to why. Thanks.

--Muzikman67 18:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your best bet is to check the article's deletion log. —K e akealani 18:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please Clarify[edit]

I am a native English speaker...my question was asking what in my message (what words) signified the tone that was mentioned, because I did not see it.

Yup, as I said earlier, if that wasn't the case, then don't worry. Addhoc 19:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is YellowDot doing?????[edit]

I'm not sure if this belongs here, but hopefully someone can forward it to the location it does belong. I have a problem with the user YellowDot, and his/her insistence on nominating pictures I have taken (specifically, images of the Pizzitola Sports Center)expressly for Wikipedia for deletion. There is no reason listed in any of the deletion pages; and when i go to the user in question's user page, the only thing on the main user page is

"Rhetoric question of the week: why is it that hard to copy and paste an URL an image was taken from?"

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:YellowDot"

Also, when you go to YellowDot's talk page, there are now seven entries on the page relating to the same problem (out of eight on the page--the only other message is the welcome message!!!). It seems to me that this person, whose page mentions that he/she has only been a Wikipedia member for seven days, is causing much, much more harm than good, and I would like to know how to fix this conflict. Please let me know either here or on my talk page. ToddC4176 18:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you haven't given any examples, but I've found Image:Pizzitola-Front1.jpg where the issue is your image is an orphan, which means the image isn't linked to any articles. Addhoc 19:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, there are two different versions of that picture uploaded and he/she is listing both for deletion. While i don't mind the 1st, i do mind the 2nd for the reasons listed on YellowDot's talk page. In fact, if you go to the Images and media for deletion page, you will see that he/she has listed 12 seperate pictures for deletion, and, as mentioned above, he/she has been argued on at least eight of the twelve on his/her talk page. Also, there is absolutely no reason listed anywhere for why he/she is doing it. It sounds like the user, a member for seven days as of today, has no idea what he/she is doing and needs to be stopped. Also, if you know how to take an image *off* of that list, let me know.... ToddC4176 19:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, looking at his talk page he's arguing with Irpen and Ghirlandajo who are very well established editors and I agree there is a wider problem here. Have a look at WP:DR and possibly speak to the other users involved, you could organize a Request for comment on his conduct for example. Addhoc 19:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article Deletion[edit]

Please restore the article titled "OASIS SOA Reference Model" - its deletion log cites copyright violations, but Carol Geyer (Communications Director) of OASIS posted a talk entry several weeks ago granting permission to post the article.

You really don't need to make multiple headers for every time you ask a follow-up question...and here isn't really the place to contest deletion. Remember that permission isn't enough for an article to be posted on Wikipedia - it needs to comply with GFDL which means essentially that any claim of copyright has to be revoked. Thus, your article was still a copyright violation. In addition, it's generally a better idea to write the article yourself so that it can stick to the style and encyclopedic tone Wikipedia attempts to maintain. I'm sorry that the article was deleted, but you will need to make sure that the article is completely free of copyright. —K e akealani 19:03, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(after edit conflict) Hi MUzikman. Per WP:CP, in order for substantiation of copyright release it is necessary to make a note permitting reuse under the GFDL at the site of the original publication; or send an email from an address associated with the original publication to permissions at wikimedia dot org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation. An assertion of permission on an article's talk page claiming to be someone who has authority is not dispositive proof of permission for obvious reasons, which is why I retagged the article as a copyvio.--Fuhghettaboutit 19:10, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First inquiry about creating a new article in the field of medical imaging and proposed interface guidelines[edit]

Hello,

Can you help me understand if Wikipedia might be appropriate for an article - that I enter - detailing a proposed interconnect standard for data acquisition in nuclear medicine?

See my current web site: www.cpspet.com/bjones.nsf

My goal is to provide a neutral venue for presenting some important interface concepts which are useful for the P.E.T. medical imaging community.

Thanks,

Bill

___________________________________________________

William F. Jones

Senior Development Engineer / Scientist

Siemens Medical Solutions, USA

Molecular Imaging

810 Innovation Drive

Knoxville TN 37932

EMAIL ADDRESS & PHONE # REMOVED

google: siemens molecular imaging

___________________________________________________ Wfjones99 20:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

From your comment I don't know if the standard you're talking about is already "out there" or if it is something you proposed. Wikipedia does not accept original research. In addition, the subject must be "notable". Feel free to write an article about it, if it is notable and you have some citations (I'm not too familiar with the subject matter, but writeups in medical journals, etc should suffice.) I deleted your email address and phone number as because Wikipedia is a very popular site on the internet, your contact information could easily be stolen by spammers. Wooty 22:51, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If it's proposed by some international group of researchers and well-discussed in occupational journals it could be a good topic, but it sounds like something you're proposing. Proposals like that would fall under No original research. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:38, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Usernames[edit]

Wouldn't it make sense to set up Usernames and passwords such that one's Username (and corresponding password) would be recognized by (and reserved in) all languages within Wikipedia, and all Wiki media (Wikipedia, Wikibooks, etc.)? I was surprised to have to create a fresh account in one of the other languages in which Wikipedia exists, and then again in Wikibooks. I would think it would result in confusion and perhaps ill will if two users adopt the same name in different languages or media.

Something like that is being implemented. See single login specifications for more. --Cherry blossom tree 23:48, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Looks good. Of course, I had to create a username and password in Wikimedia!

The reason it wasn't implemented earlier is because it means some technical problems need to be resolved. All Wikis run off their own database and they need some sort of connection to be able to exchange userdata. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:40, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To Move or Not to Move?[edit]

There is a band named Criteria with an entry at Criteria (band). There is no actual entry for Criteria, just a redirect to Criterion, which is a disambiguation page that includes (at the very bottom) a link to Criteria (band). What I'm wondering is: should Criteria (band) be moved to Criteria with an Otheruses template at the top linking to Criterion? Or should I leave well enough alone? Kindly respond on my talk page, if possible. Wyatt Riot 06:30, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confident that most people who type criteria, are in fact looking for criterion. I wouldn't move "criteria (band)". Instead I'd put a notice on top of the article criterion saying: "Criteria redirects here. For the band, see Criteria (band)." - Mgm|^(talk) 20:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Learning to speak Dutch[edit]

I am learning Dutch (Nederlands) and would like to use the 'spoken' feature I see in many of the articles in your Nederlands section. But have been unsuccessful. How do I go about 'hearing' the article I'm reading?

Thank you very much.71.107.252.103 06:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spoken articles are those that contain .ogg files. These can be played through the vlc player or any other freely available player. Just install vlc and you will be able to play the ogg file and thus hear the article 61.2.23.16 14:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The .ogg article should provide you with some ideas on which program to use. I use VLC Player and Foobar2000. Note: The Dutch Wikipedia is not a section. It's mostly written by different people than the English version. The English version may be the biggest Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean the others are sections or translations of this version. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:49, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

job[edit]

how do i get a job?!?!?!?!

What do you mean get a job? A job of a Wikiproject? A member of the board? A sysop? Please be specfic. Aqua fish talk 18:32, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ask for a job application and fill it out, or do a job interview. In either case, you'll need to learn some things as you obviously don't know how the job market works. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:54, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

filtering for kids[edit]

Is there a way to filter wikipedia so that it is child-friendly?

Unfortunately, no (none that I know of, anyway). But if you tell us your exact situation, we might have some useful suggestions. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 21:56, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think m:Wikikids if it is started will be like that? Aqua fish talk 22:04, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems so. It also seems that the exact degree of censorship there is still open to debate. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 22:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. Aqua fish talk 22:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are external things I know of (although I can't remember names right off the top of my head) which can prevent certain words from showing or certain websites...I don't know how useful that is, though. —K e akealani 01:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Look into parental control software. It filters stuff at your end without altering the actual site. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyediting by category?[edit]

I like to go through the list of articles that need copyediting, but sometimes I'd rather do a specific topic. Is there a way to, for example, go to a list of video game articles that need copyediting? Kat, Queen of Typos 00:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so...you can go to Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit and just scan through to find articles you're interested in, but otherwise you're kind of on your own. —K e akealani 01:18, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try a computer game WikiProject. People there will probably have a good idea which articles need copyediting. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Peer reviews[edit]

How do I differentiate between an article's peer reviews, if there are more than one? I'm trying to put the article Xenomorph (Alien) up for another peer review, but no matter what I do the new peer review always links back to the old one. Any suggestions?--Dark Kubrick 15:37, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of putting it under Xenomporh Alien put it under Xenomporh Alien 2. So it's Wikipedia:Peer review/Xenomorph (Alien) 2. Thanks. Aqua fish talk 16:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still doesn't work. Would you mind going to the talk page and giving it a try? Thanks.--Dark Kubrick 19:13, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What do you want on the peer review? I'll do it, but I need to know what you want on it. Aqua fish talk 19:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That was fast. I guess just copy and paste this text: "I'm going to try to keep an out-of-universe perspective on this article, but I need help in knowing what sections to add or delete. I'm planning on adding a "Depiction" section, and rewrite the Characteristics part for less cruft and speculation. Debate and Theories will probably go or be merged somehow. Plus I'll add a concept and creation section. Any other topics the article might need to cover? Thanks." Thanks Aquafish. (Don't copy and paste that :)--Dark Kubrick 19:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

O.K, going ahead to do that. Aqua fish talk 19:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did it wrong the first time; but have done it correctly and listed it at the correct page. See Wikipedia:Peer review/Xenomorph (Alien)/archive2. Aqua fish talk 19:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But where's the old peer review?--Dark Kubrick 19:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See your talk page, Dark Kubrick. Aqua fish talk 21:04, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

Hello,

What have I to write to make appear an image test.jpg I have on the directory c:\brico\ of my computer?

Kind regards M Riat

I don't totally understand your question, but I am guessing you are asking about uploading your image. First, be sure you know the copyright status of the image (if it's self-taken, then you tag it as {{pd-self}}). Second, go to Special:Upload and click Browse, and find the location of the image file. Then for summary add a copyright tag for the image. Like I said above, if it is self-taken, then you can write "{{pd-self}}". Then you're done! You can access the image any time by either searching for it, or going to your contributions. --Nishkid64 20:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Helping out a new user[edit]

I just edited an article from a new user who said a lot of things in the article like "Well, at least I couldn't get the program to work" and "You should be cautious about..." Is this considered POV or is there some other phrase I'm looking for to explain those kinds of statements? Is there a template I can offer on their talk page for this situation? Kat, Queen of Typos 23:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The templates are Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace, I would just use {subst:Welcomenpov}, followed by {subst:comment2} if the problem continued. Up to you though. Addhoc 23:31, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added the welcomenpov template, but inside that template it says {{subst:PAGENAME}} and I can't figure out how to change that to his username. Kat, Queen of Typos 23:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added "subst:" and that seemed to fix the problem. Hope that was ok. Addhoc 23:47, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Kat, Queen of Typos 23:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Video Game Stub[edit]

Hey,

Could somebody tell me how to add the Video Game stub? Thanks,

--RavenStorm 03:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. It would also help if I knew how to find such a thing myself next time.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types has a list of different stub types...I think that should lead you in the right direction. —K e akealani 03:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please Clarify[edit]

Not sure what is meant by tone here...I am new at this and am just honestly asking for help.

Uhm...are you a native speaker of English? You might be having a problem reading subtexts if you're new to the language. I don't know how to explain tone other than that the way you said things made it seem as if you meant a certain thing. —K e akealani 18:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Think of the "tone" to mean "how text is mentally read aloud" by a reader. For example, many people CONSIDER THIS TONE OF WORDS TO BE YELLING BECAUSE THE USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS. Other people consider italics to be a word that is stressed. For most people the Spoken language comes first. Thus, a written language is often treated as a way of seeing a normally heard language.

As Keakealani said, tone (or subtext) might be difficult to understand in a secondary language. In which case, it takes some time to understand what the different kinds of "tones" a language can have. —Mitaphane _talk 04:47, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a place to post requested moves?[edit]

The entrie(s) for the movie Bend it Like Beckham need some kind of fix, I'm not sure what. Bend it like Beckham works, as does Bend it like Beckam, but neither is the actual title. Anchoress 22:05, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think Wikipedia:Requested moves will suit your needs ^^ —K e akealani 22:10, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet! Thanks! Anchoress 22:12, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I don't think there is a page move indicated here. I fixed the problem with Bend it Like Beckham by creating a redirect to Bend It Like Beckham, which is the actual article title, and I believe that's the correct capitalization. The film's poster and web site are no help, as they show the title in all-caps throughout; however, IMDB shows the capitalization as the article has it. --MCB 22:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's cool, but what about the other ones, like Bend it like Beckam? Should we really have redirects that reinforce people's bad spelling? Anchoress 22:36, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it makes articles easier to find for the readers. Garion96 (talk) 22:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only common spelling errors. Otherwise, we'd have more typo redirects than proper articles. There's also people who'd say "bent" instead of "bend" which would open the floor to the same number of redirects with yet another spelling. - 08:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
In Britain, it is common not to capitalise the very little words in a title. This BBC review [6] uses "it Like" but that doesn't demonstrate what the original title was; other BBC pages use "It". The official fox site almost entirely uses capitals, and I wonder if this was a compromise from this very point. I found, however, one case of "It". Well, at least searching for either one works. Notinasnaid 08:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ADMISSION FORM REQUIRED[edit]

Dear sir\madam. please i want to come and school in ghana ,kindly sent me information on how to get admission form i am residing in Nigeria.please sent the info to my email box (e-mail redacted).thanks for asisting. YOURS EYO

Hi there! This is Wikipedia, a free encyclopedia. For admission to schools in Ghana, I suggest you contact the school you're interested in directly. — QuantumEleven 11:34, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Encyclopedia[edit]

If I want to know about Shakti peetha in detail, Then from where i can get encyclopedia for the same.

Regards

Monica

Hi Monica, suggest you try Shakti Peetha. Addhoc 11:14, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism on Hinduism page[edit]

Dear Helpdesk,

There has been a problem for a couple of days on the Hinduism page, which seems to be caused primarily by user Swadhyayee. He has persistently deleted edits of others and replaced them with uncited POV assertions. Basically, he wants to delete the section on "Raja Yoga" from the Hinduism because he does not believe that it is a legitimate school of thought. There is a lengthy discussion on the Hinduism discussion page about this issue (see the part about Raja Yoga). In the course of this discussion, all users who have commented have opposed Swadhyayee's proposed deletions. We tried to reach a compromise but he would not agree to anything reasonable, and he could not provide a single citation to support his view.

There was an edit war over this issue between Swadhyee and other users for a couple days, and it continues. One user suggested resolving the problem by holding a vote. This was done, and so far all users have voted in favor of retaining the section on Raja Yoga except Swadhyayee. Swadhyayee refuses to accept the results of the vote, refuses to provide even a single citation to support his claims, and persists in unilaterally reverting, in which he has exceeded the 3-revert limit. Moreover, he has taken to vandalizing other users' personal pages, and writing insulting messages on talk pages of several users.

As you will see if you read the discussion page at Hinduism, the entire community of editors on that page has tried to reason with Swadhyayee, but he has made himself a serious nuisance, and is seriously hindering others' efforts to improve the page. I hope that you can impose some sanctions on this user so that the community can resume working on the Hinduism page (which, until 2 days ago, had been improving daily). Thank you for your help.HeBhagawan 03:14, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You would probably be interested in some of Wikipedia's dispute resolution processes. —K e akealani 03:20, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you are succesful in resolving this dispute, but take care with the word "vandalism". This sounds like a content dispute, and using the word vandalism only increases the emotional tone. There are other policies involved, for example "insulting messages" may come under Wikipedia:No personal attacks or Wikipedia:Be civil. There is also a procedure to follow if a user breaks Wikipedia:Three revert rule which may be helpful. You should also realise that Wikipedia aims to achieve consensus, and "voting" is considered with suspicion, see for example the essay Wikipedia:Voting is evil. Notinasnaid 12:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Results of move and merge proposals[edit]

The article titled "Windsurfing harness" has been marked with a merge tag since 12 December 2005. Voting took on the corresponding talk page. How many votes are required before an action is taken? In this case, it appears that the majority vote is to leave the article as is or merge into another article on various types of windsurfing equipment. What should be done here?

In another article, "Proximate cause", a survey was conducted to decide whether or not to move the page to Proximate cause (law). After receiving only two votes, the debate was marked as having no consensus for moving. When the majority is so small, who decides on a result? Tug201 11:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On Wikipedia there are no votes, there are only attempts to build a consensus (see Wikipedia:Discuss, don't vote), and straw polls should only be used to attempt to see where the consensus is. Because of that, you don't need a 'majority' or a minimum number of 'votes' to decide an issue. In the former case, it seems most users participating in the discussion are against merging - so even though the pages should be left as they are, an effort should be made to discuss the matter further if the dissenting voice(s) refuse to be swayed by the arguments on the other side.

For the second case, yes, only a few users participated in the discussion. However, the consensus between the users who participated are clearly against moving. If there are users who disagree, you should open a discussion (not a poll) and try to lay out the arguments and benefits of both sides.

Hope that helps! — QuantumEleven 11:26, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In regard to Windsurfing harness, the voting could be closed, as there is a clear majority opposing this merge. With regard to Proximate cause, I would guess the proposed move required admin intervention, so the voting was closed by an admin, when it became clear that a majority in favour was highly unlikely to be achieved. Addhoc 11:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I think that has clarified a lot for me. I am still a bit confused about how a consensus can be reached on a discussion, but I will do some reading on the pages you outlined and hopefully I will then have a better understanding. Addhoc, how does one close the discussion? Tug201 11:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think anything more than indicating the discussion is closed and taking down the merge tags is required. To make this appear slightly more formal, I used the same format that was used in the Proximate cause debate. Thanks for raising this. Addhoc 11:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I feel I should mention, though, that the word "majority" is not really helpful, as it reinforces the idea that this is a vote, rather than a discussion attempting to reach consensus. Admins should not be simply tallying the numbers, but evaluating each response to see how it builds towards a consensus, a process which also includes looking to see if there were newly registered users involved. Notinasnaid 12:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying. You are quite correct that in the strictest sense of the word, it isn't voting and none of the guidelines or policies describe the process as voting. Also, I agree that admins or for that matter ordinary users such as myself, shouldn't merely tally the numbers. Finally, I agree that sock puppets and the like should not have the same influence as established editors. Thanks again, Addhoc 12:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

How do I ask a question to a particular user? --New & need info please 11:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ask on the user's talk page. When you see the user's name, click on it. That is their user page. Click the discussion/talk tab at the top. That is their talk page. --Kainaw ^(talk) 12:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

underground nuclear testing[edit]

no koreans just explosed underground nuclear test. Doesn't this leave a huge, huge, huge crater in the ground, or create a huge earthquake? thank for your lay-mens response

The article Nuclear testing should help you out. In the future, you should ask questions that are not related to Wikipedia at the Reference Desk. Thanks, Prodego ^talk 13:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No right-align and no lines on infoboxes[edit]

Hi there,

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this question, but here goes. I am trying to set up a personal wiki on my home computer using Mediawiki, and it has some glitches that it doesn't have when I read Wikipedia. In particular, it is not showing any lines on tables or boxes, and it refuses to right-align infoboxes (although it will right-align pictures if I include the "frame" tag). What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,Mjklin 05:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think I figured out that it's something to do with CSS. I need to put the common.css file somewhere--but where?

Mjklin 14:29, 9 October 2006 (UTC) [reply]

((help me))[edit]

profanity within article ancient egypt needs to be reported. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.107.215.51 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for reporting this; I have removed the vandalism. In future, please revert the vandal edits yourself. Thanks, Tangot a ngo 15:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Policy" on Disambiguation Pages...[edit]

This really breaks down to a political corectness question, but I suppose I'll ask it. Should I note that Charles R. Saunders on the Charles Saunders page is a black fantasy author? In this case he is quite notable for it, but I suppose I'm unclear about what wikipedia's 'general policy', if it has one, is.

I'd say no. It has nothing to do with political correctness IMO; the purpose of a disambig page is to help users navigate to the correct entry with a similar name. If there were two fantasy authors with that name it might be necessary, but as it stands he's the only author on the list and his article mentions his ethinicity. Anchoress 07:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If we needed to, then i don't think it's politically wrong. But we don't need to. There's no second fantasy writer called "Charles Saunders", so just saying "fantasy writer" should be enough to distinguish between him and any other "charles saunders"... --`/aksha 07:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

K, cool, thanks for the help and all.--Mr Bucket 17:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC) [reply]

assistance with my research work[edit]

Hi i am carrying out a research on EVALUATING THE IMPACT OF TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT ON EMPLOYEES PERFORMANCE IN AN ORGANISATION. I will want to get related topics or empirical research on the topic.thank you

brenda <email removed>

I'm sorry, this is a Help Desk for editors to ask question about the use of wikipedia. I'm not sure what you're trying to ask, but I think you will have better luck elsewhere. If you're conducting formal research, you might want to check your caps lock, too. ^^ —K e akealani 18:28, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

External links for "Paul Morphy" page[edit]

Hi, I tired adding two external links to the 'Paul Morphy' page, connecting to a site and blog that provide additional biographical information, but my links were deleted. There are several other similar external links on the page, such as "A.J.'s Paul Morphy Web page" and "Paul Morphy at chessgame.com" with biogrpahical interests, so I'm not sure why my links were deleted? I added them while logged in. The links are Biographical site about Morphy and Morphy Blog, and I think they benefit Wikipedia users by providing access to more material that follows the tone of the main page about Morphy's life and chess achievements. Can I reinstate them? Can someone 'authorize' this for me? Does someone else need to actually add them, if that's fine, because personally I'm unsure whether I edit the page properly and this is what might be causing the deletion? Thanks for any info. Pcm900 16:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(My reply seems to have been deleted by accident, so here it is again) Wikipedia has over a million articles, so the people on the help desk aren't likely to be familiar with why a particular link was deleted. But you can find out... the first thing is to click on the "History" link for the page, to look for the comment made when the links where deleted. If you don't agree with the reasons quoted (or there aren't any) you can enter into a discussion on the talk page for the article (that is, the discussion link at the top), by adding a new topic at the end. The aim is to reach a consensus among the page's editors, preferably before the page itself is edited, now that you know there is some disagreement. Notinasnaid 16:55, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The history states clearly that the links were removed because they were advertisements, not biographical information about Paul Morphy. I went to the first link in the questioner's comment above and, sure enough, it goes to an advertisement about an author who happens to be working on a book in which one of the characters is Paul Morphy. As such, that link belongs on the author's article (if there is one) and not Paul Morphy's article. --Kainaw ^(talk) 18:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting[edit]

Hi, I'd like to know how to delete articles and how to delete pictures. If anyone should know how to do this, please tell me. Thank You. | AndonicO 18:14, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An admin needs to actually delete the page. If it's something you yourself wrote (and nobody has made substantial changes), you can tag it with {{db-author}}. See Articles for Deletion, Criteria for Speedy Deletion, and Images for Deletion for more information on how to nominate pages for deletion. —K e akealani 18:24, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Importing a Word (or equivalent) article[edit]

I have written a draft of an article in Word in an encyclopedia format, and would like to use it to replace an existing Wikipedia stub. I could convert the document to Rich Text Format. Rather than learn how to convert this to wikiword, I would like to hire somebody to convert it for me. The article has chemistry equations, which means it has greek letters, subscripts, superscripts, diagrams, and so forth. Is there (i.e., do you have) a list of people for hire to do the conversion?12.72.57.69 05:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Leave a note on my my talk page to follow up on this. If you've written it in Microsoft Word and have MathType, open some of the equations you use. Go to Prefrences -> Translators. Set it to Plain TeX and then copy the equation and paste it into the wikipedia edit page along with the rest of the text in the appropreate places. I can then help finish the final formatting. Kevin_b_er 07:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, you're IP changes too much, so there's no direct way to contact you other than this page. If you can publish the document somewhere, I'll gladly convert it for free. Respond here or my talk page. Kevin_b_er 19:53, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Articles" to be removed: if so, how?[edit]

Please consider these two pages: User:Cott12/Notebook, User:Cott12/Sandbox atęcja. AFAIK this is not an appropriate use of a personal page and I think they should be removed. It is original work, "hidden" in the wikipedia sphere, but it may be found and ranked by Google. The second one is a Dutch translation, placed on the English wiki after it was voted unacceptable on the Dutch wiki. The reason I place this problem here is that I find the procedures for removal overwhelming and difficult to understand. How does one proceed on this issue? JohJak2 14:53, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The appropriate process to use for removing other people's user pages is Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. Please see the instructions there. On the MFD nomination, please explain the reasons in detail, including links to the Dutch Wikipedia. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 15:23, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but it went a bit wrong, I think. I placed the templates: [7] and [8] but on the MfD page it was messed up: [9]. Somewhere a page that I was supposed to look for: "Follow that link (to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName)" did not get created, I think. JohJak2 22:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism[edit]

I have been informed that I have "vandalized" a page in the Wilipedia sometime back in July 2006. As I have only used the Wilipedia once before and have nevedr altered or "vandalized" any article in it. I want to know what this is all about. If this kind of accusation comes from using the Wikipedia once I can assure you, I will not use it again.

Mike Kuhne <email removed>

You use an AOL account, which means that millions of other people are editing through your same address. Unless you create an account and log in, other people's vandalism will show as coming from the same account as you. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 22:55, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

high school classifications[edit]

Where did the 4 different classifications of high school come from? i.e. freshman, sophmore, junior, senior. Kathy Cooley 21:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is the wikipedia help desk, for asking question about using the wikipedia. Try the Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Miscellaneous for an answer (or look at the articles we have on the classifcations). —Mitaphane _talk 22:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's The Difference Between 1. January 2005 in Britain and Ireland and Category:2005 in the United Kingdom?[edit]

Danke.100110100 00:02, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CAT#Sort_key -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 00:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Game is a subcategory[edit]

Not sure how to fix this, but the game Planescape: Torment is listed as a subcategory in Computer & Video Games with multiple endings, and there is only one article. I think it needs to be a regular listing. [[10]] (While I'm at it, is there any way to link to a Category page without putting the page I'm editing into that category or making it look like an external link?) Kat, Queen of Typos 00:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article Planescape: Torment is in the category category:Planescape: Torment (it's the only article in this cateogry), and the category has been added to a variety of other categories. You could bring this up on the article's talk page. Off hand, I don't see any particular reason for this structure in this case, but someone did at some point. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:42, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To answer your last question, yes. Put a colon ( : ) just before the Category name, so that [[:Category:Stuff]] becomes Category:Stuff. Confusing Manifestation 01:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Problem creating category[edit]

I have tried without total success to create a Storytellers category. I thought I created it and have added it as a category in 21 articles. However, the link is still red and when I click on it, it says that the article does not exist, even though it has the 21 storytellers listed on it!

Also, how does one designate a parent category? Sign me perplexed, Cynrin 01:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Assuming you've done you're tagging right, the articles should all be member of the category -- the category link itself, however, will continue to show up as a redlink until you put content on the page (usually, a brief description explaining the purpose of the category). Parent categories are easier than they might seem: just put the category into another category, as you would with an article. Hope that helps. :) Luna Santin 02:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to vary width of messagebox?[edit]

The following markup will create a box

{|<float "right"> class="messagebox standard-talk" style="border: 1px #000000; background-color: ffffcc;" |align="center"|<'''How to vary the width of this box?'''</float>|}

How to vary the width of this box?

How can one vary the width of the box, and make the box float to the left or right of text that is outside the box?

Bardwell 23:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{|<float "right"> class="messagebox standard-talk" style="border: 1px #000000; background-color: ffffcc; width:90%" |align="center"|'''You must override the width parameter.''' |}

You must override the width parameter.

The class messagebox is width:80%. Without adding anything else, it will default to 80% width. You can see it in MediaWiki:Common.css in the block of text that starts with the line .messagebox { --Kevin_b_er 02:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but how do I make the box float?

Thanks, but how do I make the box float? The the <<float: "right"> attribute seems to be ignored. Bardwell 04:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image not visible[edit]

I uploaded a picture on Raul Julia's page. The picture is courtesy of his oldest son. I followed the proper protocols but the picture still is not visible. What is the problem? ~~otooledupree

You added an underscore "_" to the image name. I removed it and it works now. Garion96 (talk) 04:31, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

author[edit]

who is the author of wikipedia

Wikipedia is written by various editors. The Wikimedia Board which is in charge of Wikimedia are found at the foundation's website. Jimbo Wales is the current President of Wikimedia the company that founded Wikipedia. Other board members include User:BradPatrick, User:Eloquence, and User:Tim Shell Aqua fish talk 20:03, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Brad Patrick isn't on the board. If you want to the authors of a particular article to cite it, use the cite this article link at the side of each page. --Cherry blossom tree 23:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The cite page functions nicely - if one understands that one should type in the name of the article that one wants to cite. Can't this be made clearer? Kdammers 08:20, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't he just elected as the replacement for Angela Beesley in the board of trustees? - Mgm|^(talk) 20:55, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My Own Headline.[edit]

I've seen people with their own Wiki before. Like "lostpedia" "wikidebia" - How do I go about putting one on my own server?

Ooh, I'm afraid that's a bigger question than I'm used to dealing with. If nobody else here can help you out easily, you may be able to get better help at the MediaWiki wiki. Or Google. Hope you find what you need! Luna Santin 02:06, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

b:Wiki Science/How to start a Wiki. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My e-mail confirmation has expired and...[edit]

... I don't understand your advice for that case: "Have another confirmation sent to you by clicking on the button in the "my preferences" page." Where is that page? (Currently I can neither confirm nor re-create that profile... even though I've already edited articles using that name! ... Help!!) Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.119.130.211 (talk • contribs)

You'll need to log in, and head to Special:Preferences. Email settings are under "user profile," which should be the first page to come up, once you get to your preferences. Luna Santin 07:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My problem is that I cannot login. It tells me that there's no profile for that name. My email settings should be fine (I got the confirmation mail, it's just expired).—Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.119.130.211 (talk • contribs)

If that is the case then that means your account does not exist under the username you are looking for. Try to remember the correct username or create another one. Email is just optional and you dont need to have validated it in order to log in. Do you remember the username that you had created? -- Lost^(talk) 08:29, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Entry marked as Advertisement[edit]

Legg Mason's entry has been marked as an advertisement however the language used was approved from our Corporate Marketing dept and is used in our literature. There was mention the entry would be deleted and I am trying to avoid that situation. Can someone please assist me?

Thank you for your contribution. I think you have answered your own question. I took a look at Legg Mason. When a company writes about themselves, they will use a particular language which makes it look like an advert. To be fair, this is not nearly so bad as most "autobiographical" entries, but phrases like "singularly focused" and "The firm has achieved a legacy of success" really do look like an advert rather than an encyclopedia, and as a general reader I can make no sense at all of the second paragraph. (I think it may use jargon that could be resolved with links to other articles). I think with a little independent editing it has great potential as an article. Notinasnaid 18:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Notinasnaid. I appreciate the information. By chance, do you know how long I have until the entry will be deleted? Thanks again!

Ooops. I tagged it as copyright violation after having noticed somewhere (apparently here) that the article appeared to be from a PR department. I'll try to write a new article in its place, but currently all revisions of it appear to be most from the PR department. This makes none of the text NPOV, and no guarentee that the text is actually licensed under the GFDL. Kevin_b_er 20:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"however the language used was approved from our Corporate Marketing dept". This kind of shows why it is marked as advertising. PR departments aren't interested in writing encyclopedia articles. They want to promote people/businesses, because that's their job. Having the text approved by them, doesn't mean it fulfills Wikipedia standards. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:12, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a new letter and then the name to an index of names[edit]

There is a page with letters listed with names under them. I would like to add a name for which there is not yet a letter. How do I add the letter.

Nothing shows up when I go in to edit it. Nothing! No letters, no names. If something did, it would be easier, I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Canadian_missionaries Suemcp 23:41, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is a category, which means it is generated by linking articles to it. Suppose, for example, that Kermit the Frog was a Canadian missionary. To add him to the category, go to his article (that is, Kermit the Frog), and edit it so that at the very end it contains the link [[Category:Canadian missionaries]]. Kermit will then be added to the list of missionaries. See also Help:Category if you want to know how to include a sort key and other useful things. Confusing Manifestation 00:10, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But I already have an article on the person with the name I wish to add. I just don't have it on wikipedia. I would rather place a link to my article, on my website, just as soon as I can get the letter inserted onto the page, and find out how to add the name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Canadian_missionaries

Suemcp 00:24, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Letters are inserted on category pages automatically when a name with that letter is added. However, we don't just provide links to outside websites without having article content on the subject ourselves. Wikipedia is not a link farm or promotional tool. Also, categories only work for Wikipedia articles and categories. You can't add outside pages to them. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:09, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stagnation in the Mediation comittee[edit]

More than a week ago I filed a request for mediation. Both parties agreed, as required, and we are waiting for someone from the mediation committee to pick it up, accept it, and handle the case.

Eight days passed by already with no activity happening whatsoever. Are the mediation committee members aware of this situation? Maybe some other administrators can help with these issues?

Thanks, --Gabi S. 07:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The request was accepted! Yeah!!! I know, it's just a formal step saying that someone will look at the issues... I hope it happens soon! Thanks, --Gabi S. 14:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Microsoft Publisher[edit]

How can I enlarge the permanent lines that are around Microsoft Publisher. These are The red and blue lines that is around the page when you open Microsoft Publisher.... Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.100.81 (talk • contribs)

If you are talking about the article Microsoft Publisher, I dont see any such lines. If however you are talking about the actual software, then you can either try asking at the talk page of the article or the reference desk. This desk answers queries related to wikipedia only -- Lost^(talk) 14:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

How is it possible to get the whole list of articles from wikipedia ? Anicient articles Special page gives only 1000 articles. is there any way to get list of articles from 1001 to 2000 that qualify as the most anicient ?

Tux the penguin 15:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The whole list of articles runs into millions. Are you interesting in downloading all the articles? If so, see Wikipedia:Database download. The alphabetical list is at Special:Allpages. If you are interested in browsing special groups of articles, you could try Wikipedia:Categorical index for easier searching. And you are right, the ancient articles special page shows only upto 1000 pages. Is there any reason you are looking for nos 1001 to 2000? -- Lost^(talk) 16:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Local information[edit]

please tell me how to find the following information:

Number of people currently employed and unemployed in a local area

Population in a local area, i.e. town city or village etc.

Contact addresses for employers including post codes, and wage rates in a local area.

Main Employers in a local area, various jobs.

Transport links, rail, busses, taxis, trains and local airport, distance from main roads and motorways.

Any additional dempgraphic information available:Mark ohalloran 16:01, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This helpdesk answers queries related to wikipedia only. You could try asking at reference desk, but you will have to make your question clearer -- Lost^(talk) 16:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

e-mail address confirmation[edit]

I want to respond to the standard e-mail address confirmation that Wikipedia generated when I signed up for an account. Two requests had been sent but I was out of the office and did not open them until today. Please advise.

Thank you, Dean A. Matthews, MBA, JD (Knothole Knothead)(email removed to prevent spam)

If the confirmation requests have timed out, simply log in and go to Special:Preferences. Ask for another confirmation mail and it will be sent to you. Giving your email address is optional and you can edit even without providing an email address -- Lost^(talk) 18:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

living person[edit]

How do I add a person's name to the living person's list in wikipedia?

The living persons are not under a list but under a category. If the person is notable, by all means, create an article adhering to the Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines on the person and add the category to the article. You will get more specific guidelines on WP:BLP. -- Lost^(talk) 19:09, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

Can my login be used for other wikimedia hosted sites e.g.wikitionary

No, not as of now. You need to create a username for each of the wikimedia sites separately. But the proposal is being worked upon. We will probably see a common username solution in a few months if I remember correctly -- Lost^(talk) 19:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can't logon[edit]

Hi, I can't log on to my acount (Inuyasha) and the pasword reset button doesn't work at all, it says it has sent the email but I've been waiting a couple of days

Well, User:Inuyasha made a total of 3 edits back in 2003. You may have given another email id back then. I would suggest to simply get a new user id and contribute under that -- Lost^(talk) 19:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Registration[edit]

I have registered in the English section and want to know if that registration is valid also in another language section, like Sicilian. Or am I required to have two separate registrations? Thank you, Gioviddu.

Yes. --Kainaw ^(talk) 20:19, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have registered in the English section and want to know if that registration is valid also in another language section, like Sicilian. Or am I required to have two separate registrations? Thank you, Gioviddu. Gioviddu 20:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As it is right now, you have to have separate registrations. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 20:48, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The answer "yes" was to your question. "Yes. You are required to have two separate registrations." However, you can use the same username/password on each. --Kainaw ^(talk) 20:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify - Don't want to be labelled a spammer[edit]

I have tried to post a link regarding a site but I am always removed. This site that I am referring to is very informative and does not sell anything.

Please help me and tell me how can I post this link properly. I do not want to get banned or be labelled as a spammer.

Thanks for the help in advance. 75.7.151.164 23:55, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The websites you posted, [11] and [12] are both commercial websites that offer little to no informational value. Unless I'm missing something, this does look like spam. If you're someone else, please point us to the site you tried to link to, and the article, so we can help you figure out what's going on. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 23:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

75.7.151.164 21:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC) [13] I will not post that anymore. But the other site is not [14] Please check out the site and you will notice the site's uniqueness. I have looked into this great website and trust me there is no other site out there that offers a more comprehensive description and blown up images of over 20 dolls. Each body part has an image that you can view up close. I think it is a good reference guide. I also looked into the link of Real Doll and it goes straight to their commercial site so I am a little confused about that. Thanks again and I will wait for your reply on this matter. 75.7.151.164 21:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Edit count[edit]

Hi, I can't seen to acsess the edit count - does anyone have any idea as to why this is? I get this message:

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /~essjay/edit_count/Count.php on this server. Apache/2.0.55 (Debian) proxy_html/2.4 Server at tools.wikimedia.de Port 80

Thanking you in advance - Dfrg.m s c ^{1 . 2 . 3} 23:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am getting the same error. The tool is probably down. You could try asking at User:Essjay's talk page -- Lost^(talk) 01:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you could user Interiot's tool. It's working right now. Though it does require you to add something to your .js file.—Mitaphane _talk 00:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

about ME[edit]

I have serached for the article for "Me" on wikipedia. and it seemes to be spammed. I checked te history and it seemed to be spammed a lot. Is this just recently or has it always been this way for the article "Me" 23:31, 10 October 2006 (UTC) Hunter Rose

Looking at the history, it's been a good target for about a year or two. Some article are just natural targets for vandals(see Gay (disambiguation), there's an endless supply of people who think it's hillarious to put someone's name in the disambig entries). Also, see Wikipedia:The Motivation of a Vandal. —Mitaphane _talk 00:59, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Google and Wikipedia[edit]

How is it that some wikipedia articles are highlighted when searched under the search engine Google and not others? I'd like my article from Wikipedia to come up when the subject is searched in Google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtcandel (talk • contribs)

Google treats Wikipedia pages the same way it treats others. That is, if the page is linked to by many other high-ranking websites, and if it's relevant, it will have a higher pagerank. The reason that articles show up on Google so often is that people just like linking the Wikipedia on forums/blogs/etc., not because Google gives Wikipedia a bonus. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 21:20, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It bears noting that there is no such thing as "your" article - other than your user page which presumably is not highly ranked on Google anyway. Remember, "You agree to license your contributions under the GFDL." That is, once you edit something in, it's Wikipedia's, not yours. Just as a note. You shouldn't be using Wikipedia as a venue for increased hits on Google. —K e akealani 01:36, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

my own 16'45" dvd drama[edit]

Hi - I wrote, produced and directed this dramatic piece, "Screech" it has one performer in it, so I am the cretaor and own the rights, but I am a computer dummy so I need help to upload it like: tag 1.1 I suppose and I guess it is a free license. I just need simple to understand step by step instruction. I hope this is not a burden, thank you ----

Upload it to where? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not a movie warehouse. --Kainaw ^(talk) 00:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kainaw is right. Wikipedia is not a file sharing site. If you want to share your work with the world try Google Video. —Mitaphane _talk 01:19, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am being accused falsely of being a vandal[edit]

I have made contributions to wikipedia that are being FALSELY accused of being vandalism. I am not trying to vandalize this site! In fact, my article on the sports promoter George Kennedy is slated for removal because I have been falsely accused of vandalism. I have listed my source at the bottom of the article my source: the book DECEPTIONS AND DOUBLECROSS: HOW THE NHL CONQUERED HOCKEY by Morey Holtzman and Joseph Nieforth.

   I want you to tell everyone who has accused me of vandalism the STOP IT AT ONCE!!

This falsely accusing me of being a vandal is COMPLETELY and THOROUGHLY UNFAIR! I am NOT a vandal!!Corey Bryant 20:11, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read your talk page? I don't see what is confusing in the comments. --Kainaw ^(talk) 20:19, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would take these accusations up with User:Widefox. Looking at some of your edits, I don't see any obvious vandalism. Also, see this for information about resolving disputes. Talk to the user and explain why your edits aren't vandalism. —Mitaphane _talk 01:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I left a note on your talk page corey, and on widefoxes. I think the problem here is that you are breaking the WP:OR policy and Widefox while justifiably reverting your edits, is calling it vandalism, when I see it mostly as someone not understand exactly how wikipedia works. Chris M. 02:49, 11 October 2006 (UTC) [reply]

IPA Characters don't display in IE 6.0[edit]

I keep coming across wikipedia pages where there are characters displayed only as a block, instead of the actual character. An example for me is the pronunciation in this Ciabatta article. I see t*ab*at:a where asterisks here are the block symbol. I can't figure out how to resolve it. I have Lucida Sans Unicode installed, MS Arial Unicode installed, and the "web page font" in Internet Options set to the MS Arial unicode font. Any help?

It must be a IE specific thing. I'm using FireFox and have no problem but when I use an IE 6.0 tab it can't render the IPA characters. Maybe try upgrading to IE 7(if its out yet), or getting FireFox with the IE Tab extension or some other better standards compliant browser?

See discussion below entitled "What does this mean?" for a few additional insights. Tawagoto 03:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What does this mean?[edit]

What does the symbol mean/do in the special characters section (as opposed to clicking-in the IPA characters directly)? Thanks. Tawagoto 02:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. It didn't appear. I mean { { IPA | } } (but without the spaces). Tawagoto 02:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The notation you refer to is a template, a special function used to duplicate content across multiple page. The {{IPA}} (bracketed, as all templates are in Wiki markup) is used to allow fixing broken display of International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) characters in MS Internet Explorer 6 for Windows, and choice of style in any browser. If you're adding any of the characters listed under IPA in the special characters box, they should be included directly following the pipe bar "|" and before the closing brackets: }}. Hope that helps! McMillin24 _contribs^talk 02:39, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that was a big help. It also answered my next question, which was: Why do little square boxes appear instead of phonetic symbols? (Answer: Because it's IE.) Maybe I'll switch to Mozilla Firefox. The problem is, if users DON'T use this template, the little squares appear, and it's very difficult to figure out what they represent. I wouldn't mind copyediting places where they appear (to change them to the { { IPA } } format, but you can't tell what they are in the first place. Tawagoto 03:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Curious[edit]

There is any translation of the pages in tagalog?

There is a Wikipedia project in Tagalog with just over 5,000 articles; the main page can be found at tl:Unang Pahina. McMillin24 _contribs^talk 03:35, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to find infomation about the Wikipedia.[edit]

Can you help me find where the wikipidia was published or posted, when it was published or posted,and who the editor was. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.12.111 (talk • contribs)

You're trying to create a bibiliography, aren't you? If you're doing this for a post-secondary project, don't. Otherwise, see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 01:24, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of information about Wikipedia is located in its article, if you want some general history, But Consumed Crustacean is right if you're looking for citation information. —K e akealani 04:45, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

cv of Dr. Ekwow Spio - Garbrah[edit]

I should be grateful if you could furnish me with information on Dr. Ekwow Spio-Garbrah, a presidential aspirant of the Republic of Ghana, West Africa.

You may want to see if there's an article here. Otherwise, you might be able to get information at the Reference Desk; this Help Desk is specifically for questions about using and editing Wikipedia, while the Reference Desk is for any question under the sun. Good luck! —K e akealani 06:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

create discussion[edit]

i searched for 555 and came up with info on the year 555. the only other page was 555 (number). when i searched for 555, the result i was looking for is titles 555 timer. i was going to go to discussions to reccomend creating a disambiguation page but when i go there it says that the article "555" does not exist and that this will create it. will it really overwrite the 555 article or just create an entry in discussions?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Javawizard (talk • contribs) .

I'm, not sure that I understand your question. Did you click on the "discussion" link at the top of the article 555?. if so you got the message "Wikipedia does not have a talk page with this exact name." By posting your entry there you will create the talk page for 555. Every article and userpage has an associated talk page. When it's red-linked, that means it has not been created yet. This will not overwrite 555. I hope this helps. If I misunderstood, please clarify your question.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:50, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article you want is 555 timer IC. --ais523 07:57, 11 October 2006 (U T C)

Titles Of All Articles[edit]

Aren't the first letter of every word in a title supposed to be capitalized? So why aren't the first letters of all the words in Wikipedia articles capitalized? That would mean the section headings too. And then there's the template that says, i.e.: iPod, the first letter of the article is specifically supposed to be uncapitalized. It teaches the reader how to write iPod, but then none of the articles have a lineatthetop to say [something like] how you're supposed to capitalize the word, when you should, when you shouldn't, i.e.: if it is the first word of a sentence of in a title, or if it compounded into a name, and never in all other circumstances. What's the deal?100110100 07:43, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Naming of articles is covered in Wikipedia:Naming conventions, a policy; the first letter of each article is capitalised for technical reasons, but the policy says that subsequent letters should be lowercased unless they would be uppercased when used in a sentence. If you're unclear about the policy or disagree with it, the best place to ask would probably be Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions. --ais523 07:56, 11 October 2006 (U T C)

Notice sent from Wikipedia[edit]

I have recently used Wikipedia again and have been sent a message stating that I have changed text on certain subject and have also sent nasty messages to other users.

My 11 year old son uses this site under strict supervision for his homeowrk and has never altered text or contacted other site users.

The subjects that you have quoted us as changing are not subjects we have viewed or are likely to view. In the past few months we have used this site to gain information on the Roam Empire and JFK.

Please can you look into this for me and advise me.

Thank you

Janine Heaney

Your IP when you asked that question was 195.93.21.7, an AOL IP. AOL repeatedly changes which IP a user is connected to, so that if one person vandalises a page, it's possible that a different user (in this case you) will get the warning message; most AOL IPs have lots of irrelevant warnings. Ignoring the warnings is the best thing to do; if you want to do any editing, it may be a good idea to get a username. See Advice to AOL users for more info. --ais523 07:53, 11 October 2006 (U T C)

Logging in[edit]

I just created my account. When I log in, it says I've done so successfully. But when I then click on "My Preferences" so I can set preferences, it says I have to log in, and the top right corner shows that I'm NOT logged in.

I've logged in nine times, been welcomed nine times, and been told nine times that I'm not logged in when I try to go to Preferences.

I do NOT want my IP address showing anywhere, but even to send you this, it says I'm not logged in. One of us is wrong. Which one is it?

What's going on???

11 October 2006 (UTC)

What web browser are you using? Perhaps your cookie setting are set correctly. Some more information would be helpful to find out the problem. —Mitaphane _talk 01:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you tell me what "more information" you need, I'll provide it. I've never had a problem with cookies before. If the problem is cookies, why wouldn't it recognize me in the instant after I log on? I'm a computer boob, so you need to tell me exactly what you need to know, or what I'm doing wrong - sorry!

First, what browswer are you using? Firefox, Internet Explorer, something else?

Internet Explorer, but I'm not sure what version. Our computer is four years old and it came bundled.

This could be a major issue. To find out the version number the usual Windows trick is to use Help > About: in this case Help > About Internet Explorer. Notinasnaid 08:31, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This question's been coming up a lot. Three attempts to fix it:

Make sure you've got cookies turned on
Try using the 'Remember me' checkbox
Try using this link: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page

--ais523 08:42, 11 October 2006 (U T C)

OK, I checked and I'm using version 6.0. Is that a problem?

I checked the "Remember me" box when I registered.

I'm not sure how to turn on cookies, but I have no problem with any other website, so I'm assuming that my cookies are fully turned on. (Wait - that didn't come out right. Oh well, you know what I mean!)

Hey - all of a sudden, it's working. I didn't change anything, but I got to my preferences page. I guess it just took the system overnight to digest me.

Thanks for your help.

Introduction to Islam Bibliography - encyclopedic?[edit]

Does anything like Introduction to Islam Bibliography exist on Wikipedia? Should it be here? Dev920 (Tory?) 22:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

After looking through it, I took it to AfD. It seems doomed. Zunaid 09:57, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ref tag, citations, references etc.[edit]

Is there a standard subheading to put the <references/> tag into. On many pages i notice that it follows a rather sensible way of having the subheading as 'References' and then having a further subheading beneath that for 'General references' which holds just references that werent cited in the text. On some pages it uses the heading 'Notes' which doesn't seem to make much sense as almost all of the time the <ref> tag in the article is for a reference, or citation, not a footnote.

Is there any plan of incorporating another <ref> style tag called <foot> or something that will be for footnotes? This would allow a 'Footnotes' section to make sense and could be used as well as a references section.

I suppose the other name for headings could be 'Citations' but 'References' fits in better with almost all printed media, including other ecyclopaedias.

The title 'References' is standard if inline citations are being used; 'Notes' is used if the ref tags are being used for footnotes. I agree that this means that they can't both be used in the same article; if you want to make this suggestion, the Village Pump may be a good place to discuss it. --ais523 12:28, 11 October 2006 (U T C)

how far is nanchang china from shanghai china[edit]

in miles or km

Try asking at the reference desk though a quick search on google should be able to give you the answer. This help desk answers questions pertaining to wikipedia only -- Lost^(talk) 08:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's 605 km, see here. --Gabi S. 14:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

strategywiki[edit]

how do you get to strategy wiki on wikipedia?

StrategyWiki has nothing to do with wikipedia, it is a completely unrelated site (other than the fact that the same software is used by both). Its URL is http://strategywiki.org/wiki/. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 13:53, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia on Palm - Tomeraider[edit]

Hello,

it looks like the link http://download.wikimedia.org/tomeraider/ to dowload tomeraider files for use on PDA is not working anymore. Is that service discontinued ?

Thanks for any clarification.

83.134.219.209 16:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Pascal [reply]

Layout question[edit]

Hi. In the stub Oceanside (Amtrak station), I added two info boxes directly under the one that already existed (all 3 boxes are of train lines). Problem is, there's yet another existing info box on the right of the page which causes the three info boxes in the article to be unaligned and it looks pretty hokey. I realized I'm a little too html challenged to fix this. Any suggestions? --Marriedtofilm 01:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. All you have to do is add a after the infobox the "clear=all" makes sure the next line continues past the infobox. —Mitaphane _talk 08:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Mitaphane!--Marriedtofilm 21:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Someone tried to change my password.[edit]

From: wiki@wikimedia.org

Subject: Password reminder from Wikipedia
Date: October 11, 2006 16:59:39 PDT
To: dafydd@dafydd.com
Return-Path: <wiki@wikimedia.org>
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3-gr0 (2006-06-01) on javelin.gundo.com
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.3-gr0
X-Original-To: dafydd@dafydd.com
Delivered-To: dafydd@gundo.com
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Received-Spf: none (javelin.gundo.com: domain of wiki@wikimedia.org does not designate permitted sender hosts)
Received: from mail.wikimedia.org (mail.wikimedia.org [66.230.200.221]) by mail.gundo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116E666F1F for <dafydd@dafydd.com>; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:32:57 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from localhost.localdomain (srv88.pmtpa.wmnet [10.0.2.88]) by mail.wikimedia.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BFC1A0C93 for <dafydd@dafydd.com>; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:59:40 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from localhost.localdomain (srv88 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9BGxdpP002659 for <dafydd@dafydd.com>; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:59:40 GMT
Received: (from apache@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k9BGxd6K002657; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:59:39 GMT
Message-Id: <200610111659.k9BGxd6K002657@localhost.localdomain>
X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: apache set sender to wiki@wikimedia.org using -f
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Mailer: MediaWiki mailer
Someone (probably you, from IP address 88.105.195.177)
requested that we send you a new Wikipedia login password for en.wikipedia.org.
The password for user "Dafydd" is now "[REDACTED]".
You should log in and change your password now.
If someone else made this request or if you have remembered your password and you no longer wish to change it, you may ignore this message and continue using your old password.

A WHOIS lookup on 88.105.195.177 points to a provider out of London, England. I immediately changed my account to use my most secure password, but I want to log this in case the offending IP address shows up elsewhere.

My PGP public key is available through http://pgp.mit.edu and from http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=dafydd

Thanks!
David
dafydd 18:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately not much can be done about this. Anyone can request a password on your behalf. It will not affect your password though. Unless you click on the confirmation link, your password remains unaffected. -- Lost^(talk) 20:52, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question re references/citation, commercial link[edit]

Hi I was wondering what the WP policy is for using a commercial website, i.e. amazon.com, as a reference for an item, i.e. a music cd, on a WP article about the band. Is it ok, or no? Green hornet 20:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Commercial sites, as long as they are reliable sources and not advocating a point of view are ok to be used as references. For example the ISBN of a book can quite reliably be had from amazon.com -- Lost^(talk) 20:54, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MZ scooter[edit]

i have a mz scooter model moskito rx and need an owners manuel very badley. please tell me how to obtain one thank you keith armstrong

I'm sorry, you have asked in the wrong place. This Help Desk is specifically for questions about using and editing Wikipedia. You may try the Reference Desk, but I'm not sure they can help you. I can suggest a search engine like Google, but otherwise I'm not sure you can get help here. —K e akealani 20:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

trouble displaying copied template from wiki[edit]

I'm trying to start up a wiki based on asian pop culture and would like to start off using the same exact entries in wikipedia for some pages but im having a problem making the pages look the same as on Wikipedia.

Specifically, I'm having trouble displaying the template "Template:Infobox idol" correctly. Please compare:

Wikipedia's site (the way i want it to show up):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_idol

and my site:

AZN Wiki

Can you see the difference? the infobox version on my website is messed up. I've also copied and created the other templates parsed in the "Template:Infobox idol" but to no avail. I have the parsefunctions extension installed and ive created monobook.css and commons.css

I've been spending alot of time installing other templates that I thought would fix the problem but so far nothing. I've been thinking because of that it has something to do with Javascript or CSS, but I don't really know.

Could somebody please help me out?

Thanks, Ryan

  update: im gonna re-install the latest version and see how it goes.

You didn't link to your site. Chris M. 21:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd bet that your installation does not have the ParserFunctions extension, which that template seems to use. If that doesn't work, try asking at the technical village pump. --Cherry blossom tree 21:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan: Well, i just updated to the latest mediawiki and it still doesn't work. Cherryblossom tree, I don't think that is the case since I already have the ParserFunctions extension installed.

got it! see this: http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2767

User Discussion Page[edit]

Is it ok to delete comments from a user discussion page? 67.99.60.231 21:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From your own. If you have a friend on WP and you notice something really irrelevant or offensive on their talk page you can remove it, but generally leave other people's talk pages alone. Anchoress 21:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you may not remove warnings from your talk page - and in general it's good idea to remove comments without having them in a visible archive. Not only is it kind of rude, but it makes it look like you're trying to hide something - which doesn't work because everything is available in the history...Anyway, just avoid removing necessary things. —K e akealani 01:32, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it's not true that you may not remove warnings from your talk page; and it's also not true that it's a convention to remove to an archive. Lots and lots of editors (including administrators) just delete whatever they want from their talkpages. The idea is that if you've deleted it, you've seen it, and warnings aren't meant to be scarlet 'A's that must remain for all to see. Anchoress 05:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There has been much discussion of this topic. For an overview, please see Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Removing warnings.--Fuhghettaboutit 05:43, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry. I'd gotten the impression from reading the Admin boards that users weren't censured for deleting whatever from talkpages. Anchoress 20:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmmm, but this discussion seems to conclude that it is OK. Anchoress 22:45, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to give someone a barnstar.[edit]

How do you give someone a barnstar?MOI 21:58, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look at WP:STAR. Addhoc 22:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can't log in![edit]

I keep trying to log into my account (named PhageRules1), but I am unable to do so. I read the notice provided, but cookies are enabled on my computer already, and I can't access the slow version. If this is an inappropriate place to be posting my question, I am terribly sorry; please refer me to the proper place. Thanks for your help! 69.19.14.22 23:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Editing trouble[edit]

Hi im trying to insert my digital pictures onto a page on the site. iv read through the help page and find it rather frustrating and practically useless because it doesnt explain 'how' to put images into the page. iv had many attempts and failed so il explain what iv done so far. iv uploaed my images onto wikipedia. then i went to the page i wanted to insert them into and clicked edit this page. i then clicked the insert image icon and replaced example with the image name. it doesnt work it doesnt show the image it just shows what i typed what am i doing wrong and how can i resolve this? Martin86 00:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You had the code like this [[Image:Image:Example.jpg]] but it must be [[Image:Example.jpg]]. With only one "Image:". "Example" stands for the name of the picture without the "Image:" namespace indication. --Bisco 00:59, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Getting a Entry Locked[edit]

I was wondering how to go about getting an article to be locked so that vandalism will be reduced. Please let me know. Ud pkp 2005 00:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Hope that helps! Luna Santin 00:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The roman walls of Lugo and Wikipedia[edit]

My English is limited. I would like to upload a small article with eight images about the Roman wall of Lugo, with special dedication to military functionality. It is a virgin territory, therefore how it can, the article, being encyclopedic if all the references go to me? --Ulises Sarry 23:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(Note: copied from Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia and moved here. Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]

How they got the meaning of alligator71.127.231.173 00:59, 12 October 2006 (UTC) [reply]

resume' help!?![edit]

60.231.187.71 02:11, 12 October 2006 (UTC)I need to upload my resume' but it has to be in rich text format (RTF) i didn't know what that was so i googled it.. and it brought me to this site! can u help? how do i put my resume' into RTF??????[reply]

Have you read the article on RTF? This is a help desk about wikipedia. we do have a IT reference desk, but it isn't a free-service station for homework-style questions either. --`/aksha 02:42, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article change from Editor[edit]

Hello!

I've written an article on the conductor Alexander Frey. At the top of that article there are two notices that appeared from Wikipedia: Editing needed and that the article reads like an advertisement. I've shortened it and followed the Wikipedia guidelines. Can you please remove these two notices from the article?

Many thanks, Richard Lauren —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Lauren (talk • contribs)

Remember, you're an editor also so you can be bold and remove them. They might reappear if the editor who added them disagrees that the problem they saw has been fixed. Antonrojo 02:59, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate article and redirect titles[edit]

This morning I moved the page South African Farmer Murders to South African farm attacks per an extensive talk page discussion. After doing so I discovered an entire slew of what IMHO are inappropriately-titled (i.e. violating NPOV) redirect pages. It seems like someone with a POV to push has created these. I PRODed this redirect page (there doesn't seem to be a CSD that covers it) and "tagged on" all the others without actually PRODding them individually. Is this okay? There's PLENTY of them so it would be quite a pain to do them all. Zunaid 13:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, NPOV doesn't apply to redirects so much, so long as something is a possible search term, it should be redirect to the page in question. Of course if it is something that no one is ever likely to search for, and it seems only to exist as a NPOV violation, then you should list it for deletion at WP:RFD, or under CSD G10 (attack pages) as applicable. Prodego ^talk 13:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Listed them all at RfD. Thanks! Zunaid 07:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

E-mails[edit]

Is an e-mail added in the optional box and then confirmed is not shown on a user page or on any part of the site in correlation with the username is it?

If you are asking whether the email address is kept private, yes it is. -- Lost^(talk) 21:28, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

However, it will be shown to the recipient of any emails you sent through the "email this user" feature so they can respond. - 131.211.210.16 09:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User Bios[edit]

I remember a while ago comming across some Biographies of Wikipedia Users, I can't remember if it was on Meta or Here or if I even did come across it, but I am pretty sure I came across something that wasn't a userpage but a Biography of A User, cam anyone help 218.101.117.156 21:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Information about users can be had from Wikipedia:Userpages. You will get a userpage automatically when you get an account with a username. You can write information about yourself there. But go through the above link to see what you may or may not include. -- Lost^(talk) 21:30, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a category, I think, or maybe an article, for Wikipedia editors who have Wikipedia articles about them. Anchoress 21:32, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Notable Wikipedians? --Cherry blossom tree 21:45, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, but that page had what I was thinking of. Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles. Anchoress 09:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you were thinking of wikibios? =- 131.211.210.16 09:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to avoid being bummed out by Wikipedia?[edit]

I've just changed my username (again) because of bad experiences on Wikipedia. I am in no way trying to do Wikipedia harm (although I am being to feel like doing so). There seems to be clicks of people who do you in because you put a "fact" tag or something similar on an article and they don't want to deal with it. Also, they take credit for my work, then call me a vandal. I used to love Wikipedia and genuinely working on articles.

How do I regain that feeling again with all the bad stuff going on? I gave up doing backlogs of wikifying etc. because that is a quick way of getting dumped on. I gave up creating articles because someone else coopts the article and calls me a sockpuppet. Admininistrators have their own agenda so there is no ultimate help from that source if you have no connections because they protect favorate people. I only find out about complaints about me accidently by putting certain individual's talk pages on my watchlist.

Do you have pages or links to help people like me deal with all the negativity here? (You probably won't answer this type of question, I know from experience, and please don't recommend that I take a break by working on my user page.) Xampt 23:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to hear that. =\ If particular users are stalking or harassing you, you may be able to find some help at the personal attacks invervention noticeboard. If you just want some friendly people to talk to, you might be interested in Esperanza. Beyond that, please don't let trolls get to you -- they're a problem everywhere on the internet, and sometimes you just need to keep your eye on the prize and find that one needle in the haystack. There are good people out there, you've just got to keep looking. Luna Santin 00:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to consider not changing your username so much. While I appreciate you can develop a reputation, sometimes due to no fault of your own which can cause problems, in the end your edits should speak for themselves. The trouble is, if you keep changing your username people can't see all the good work that you've done Nil Einne 10:49, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

APA 5th Edition[edit]

How do I cite an article from Wikipedia in APA 5th Edition? I researched Niccolo Machiavelli and now need to cite your source.

See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Keep in mind however, for specific details in a research paper, an encyclopedia might not be a good source. You might want to try out the sources cited within the wikipedia article instead of the article itself. —Mitaphane _talk 03:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On Secure Wikipedia[edit]

I'm a user from the Chinese Wiki. As you know, wikipedia is blocked in Mainland China. I can edit via https. However, today the https keeps failing to resbond, saying an "Http 403" error occurred. Someone to help me? Many thanks! 210.21.29.114 06:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

403 is "forbidden". You may draw your own conclusions. Notinasnaid 09:28, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't Wikipedia unblocked in China as of today, and now only subject to keyword blocks [such as Tienanmen and Fulan Gong (mispelled purposely to avoid Helpdesk being blocked for chinese users)]? — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 10:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Search across multiple languages[edit]

Is it possible to search across multiple language versions of Wikipedia?

MarkTerry 07:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hm. Not in any way that I'm familiar with, unfortunately. You might be able to use interwiki links, once you've found one page. Or Google might be able to help you out, if you can figure out the right search terms. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but let's hope at least one of those is enough to get what you need. Luna Santin 07:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If it's possible, such search thingies will be listed in their section on WP:TOOLS. - 131.211.210.16 09:21, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Very easy with Google. Add site:wikipedia.org to any search (rather than site:en.wikipedia.org). Notinasnaid 09:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to you both - that does the trick MarkTerry 10:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to get database changes in to my web site[edit]

Hi, I need some help regarding the integration of wikimedia in our own website,as i am currently doing,i need a confirmation shall i have to dump enwikimedia Database from wikimedia any modifications done in wikimedia site how can i access those changes in to my website.Please help me if any one knows.(<email removed>)

Thank You, Shivaramaraju.

Take a look at the top. This is primarily for help on using wikipedia. You should instead go to the mediawiki help which is also linked to at the top. BTW, we don't e-mail people... Nil Einne 10:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

About PhotoShop[edit]

Can Photoshop create new image?

This isn't really the place to ask such a question. You could try the reference desk but I'm not particularly sure anyone will be able to answer that question as it's kind of vague anyway as to what you mean and in any case it's a very general question that you shouldn't need our help to answer. Try reading the Adobe Photoshop article. However given the very high price of Photoshop, I would respectively suggest if you don't know the answer to the question, you shouldn't even think if it since it'll be a waste of money to buy it. BTW, please see Wikipedia:Sign Nil Einne 10:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Were you thinking of 'new' in the sense of copyright purposes? In that case altering an image using PhotoShop or similar software doesn't necessarily create a 'new' image for the purpose of copyright. Addhoc 11:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2004[edit]

how do i find out what happend in america in 2004, as i can only find information on other countries but america seems to have been missed off the list, thankyou for your help 12:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Nothing happened in America in 2004; everybody overslept through the entire year, and didn't do anything until they finally all woke up (with a big hangover) on January 1, 2005. *Dan T.* 12:41, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How can a specialty group collaborate with you?[edit]

Dear Wikipedia,

We are a group of doctors representing the mitochondrial medicine society. We specialize in the treatment and diagnosis of mitochondrial diseases. We are also part of and expert resources for our national support group - the United Mitochondrial Disease Foundation (www.umdf.org).

We have had a recent request to create a wiki about the diagnosis and treatment of this condition and were interested in knowing if it is possible to create the wiki via wikipedia?

If so, who would be our contact individual (if one is needed)? Is there a warning or disclaimer needed for posting medical content in the wiki? Is there a way to become an administrator from the beginning as to limit unqualified individuals from editing the page? Do our qualifications need to be verified? As you can see we have more than a few questions. Please let us know how to proceed.

Sincerely,

Docs of the Mitochondrial Medicine Society

Perhaps what you're looking for is Wikia, a for-profit company founded by the same person who started Wikipedia, and using the same software, which lets people create specialized wikis. Or you could install the open-source MediaWiki software on your own server and start a wiki that way. Wikipedia itself is a general-interest encyclopedia, not a place to start up specialized wikis of your own. *Dan T.* 12:33, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

about tourism[edit]

who is the founder of tourism? who established the tourism first in the world?

That's a rather open-ended question. I imagine that, all the way back to ancient times, there have been some people who have traveled to distant places and done some sightseeing for fun when they got there. The increase in affluence, leisure time, and transportation technology of the past couple of centuries has greatly increased the frequency of this, and I believe it's in the mid-1800s that tourism began to be considered an industry in its own right, with such companies as Cook's Tours and American Express (which was into tourism and travel before it got into credit cards). But I don't know all the specific history. *Dan T.* 12:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

translating[edit]

how can I translate articles?

Try using google translation tools for a rough translation. Else you can place a translation request template at the talk page of the article. The usage would be {{translation request|LANGUAGE}} where LANGUAGE would be the the one you want the translation from. -- Lost^(talk) 15:00, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MainPageBG Class[edit]

Where is the MainPageBG style class stored? This is the class used to format tables on WP's main page. I've searched through MediaWiki:Common.css but it doesn't appear to live there, and I don't see it referenced in the catalog. Thank you, dpotter 14:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Protected talk page, what should I do?[edit]

I know of a protected deleted article that could be converted to a protected redirect. Ordinarily I would use {{editprotected}} to make such a request, but its talk page is also a protected deleted page. How should I make this request? Should I create a new page Talk talk:(name of article) or Talk:Talk:(name of article)? Should I put the talk page in deletion review or requests for protection, get it unprotected and blanked, and then make the request to get the article changed? Every possible solution I can think of sounds rawther Rube Goldberg to me. --Damian Yerrick (☎) 01:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, quite the conundrum. If all else fails, there's always the talk page of WP:RFP, the village pump, or even admins' noticeboard. One of those should do you some good. DRV is probably feasible, but might be overkill. Your call. :) Luna Santin 01:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My answer might be different if I knew the page in question, but I would say either Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for significant edits to a protected page or leave a note on the talk page of the admin who protected it. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 01:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The page is NEDM. NEDM is a "fad" (recurring theme) on a web site called YTMND, and the article was deleted apparently for non-notability. I just want to get the article #REDIRECTed to YTMND. I'll try the route that After Midnight suggested. --Damian Yerrick (☎) 01:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's actually a really good idea. Somewhat-notable (but not enough for a Wiki article) fads should be redirected to the websites where they exist. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 10:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They rejected it, claiming that the redirect had been disputed in the past. --Damian Yerrick (☎) 20:49, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish characters[edit]

In citing a book authored by Videgård should I use that spelling or simply Videgard? -GrahameKing 04:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the author refers to themselves as Videgård (Ex. the cover of the book a å), use that, else the Englishification (is that a word?) of the name. Kevin_b_er 06:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm actually of the opinion you should use Videgård unless there is a reason not to, e.g. there is reason to believe that name is preferred by the person or is more commonly used. In any case, you might want to check out Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Swedish) (which is inactive) and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Finnish) (which is based on the Swedish) Nil Einne 10:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both. I've used "Videgård". -GrahameKing 05:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How can I locate an answer to a question I asked before?[edit]

I asked a question about "Ensuring an article appears on the relevant category page" on 5 October 2006 at 15:08. I am looking for the answer page again, but I can't find it. Are answers removed after a certain period, or is it still possible to find that answer?

Mungo 14:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The answers are archived to avoid making the page too lengthy. You can look up the recent archives to look for your question and its answer. Alternately you can ask the question again -- Lost^(talk) 14:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice. Mungo 15:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do we remove duplication of an article?[edit]

The Wikipedia articles "Shiwa Ngandu" and "Shiwa Ng'andu" refer to the same place. How do we remove such duplication of an article? I suspect that the duplication may have arisen due to the different orthographies used by contributors. The apostrophe is often used by indigenous Zambians, whereas non-indigenous people may feel that it's unnecessary.

Mungo 15:11, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is a case for an article merge. The page I linked to covers the procedure, but it basically boils down to (1) tag the articles with a merging template, (2) discuss on one of the Talk pages which article has the "most correct" name, (3) combine the information onto one page, (4) turn the other page into a redirect. Confusing Manifestation 15:17, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article creation[edit]

How do you create articles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki friend (talk • contribs)

See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. -- Lost^(talk) 15:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Biographies[edit]

How do I post my biography?

Unless you mean a few lines on your user page, this isn't usually recommended, see WP:AUTO. Addhoc 16:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How To Put This Special Box Thing In[edit]

[[15]] < This page includes a box to the right titled MCB Director Vote Pages but when I click 'edit page', there is appears to be no code for it. How can this be? --Username132 (talk) 16:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The page you want to edit is actually located here. It has been transcluded into the other page. -- Lost^(talk) 16:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why are all of the First Amendments freedoms important for the maintinence of decmocracy?[edit]

Why are all of the First Amendments freedoms important for the maintinence of decmocracy?

Have a look at First Amendment, personally I don't share the view you have expressed. Addhoc 16:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And please don't ask us to do your homework. :) --ZimZalaBim (talk) 16:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or have a look at Wikipedia:Reference desk — Nearly Headless Nick ^{L} 16:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to display wikimedia results to our Own Website[edit]

Hi,

        I need some help regarding the integration of wikimedia in our own
website,as i am currently doing,i need a confirmation that shall i have to
directly integrate with wickimedia or shall i have to dump all the Database
from wikimedia into my Database and has to proceed,Please help me if any one
knows.

Can I connect wikipedia by using the software that the wikimedia has
provided to us.
Thank You,

Go here, to get the database download of the EN wikipedia. Wikimedia software doesn't not interface with the wikipedia. As far as integrating the database dump into your own wiki goto MediaWiki's site to see how to do that. —Mitaphane _talk 07:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I deal with ambiguous searches?[edit]

When I search for "mks" I get a page about International Systems of Units, because of its derrivation from the metre-kilogram-second system. When I search for "MKS" I get the software company MKS Inc. On that page there is a reference to another MKS, which is a Polish labor organization reference. Obviously all three are valid hits when searching for "mks" so why does the ISoU page get displayed rather than a listing of possible hits? How do you disambiguate the search and pull up the right pages. Alternatively, is it correct to add a reference to the top of the ISoU page referencing the company MKS as the Polish labor link is on the company MKS page?

While I would hate to confuse anyone looking for information about Polish Unions, the placement of the redirect on the software company page is unfortunate as it ends up being the subtitle when you search for terms including MKS. You get search result, the first item being :

MKS

company_name = MKS Inc. | Relevance: 15.4% - 2.1 kB (273 words) - 19:58, 15 September 2006

which is actually the company listing you were looking for, but from the summary, this is not obvious.

Wikipedia:Disambiguation explains it quite well. If one meaning of the phrase is the most well known, the page should direct to that meaning. Other meanings can be put up as a list on MKS (Disambiguation). -- Lost^(talk) 17:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Careful now! That would be MKS (disambiguation) without the capital D. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I created MKS Inc. and an MKS specific page and repointed all references (hopefully correctly).

Fox not on TV[edit]

Why is your Fox Channel not working in the Harlingen Texas area. We are using just a regular antennae. For the past few days, to be exact since Tuesday Oct10,06 all we are getting is a black or blue screen. Please email us so that we can find out when you will be broadcasting again. (email removed) for the email reply Thanks

You are asking at the wrong website!! Please contact Fox on their website. This is Wikipedia - an encyclopedia -- Lost^(talk) 18:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You could ask at the reference desk where questions about things that are not Wikipedia are answered. But contacting the company providing your channels or Fox themselves appears to be the easier option. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

image on my article is broken[edit]

no one changed anything, that i can tell, i wonder why my image now displays the red x?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVDEmpire.com

204.14.177.2 17:59, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you are talking about this image, it appears correctly for me. -- Lost^(talk) 18:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

.40 cal S&W[edit]

On October 7, 2006 I brought up a page from wikipedia on the above subject. I liked what came up and learned from it. On October12, 2006 I wanted to go to that page again and check on something and I wind up with a rap singer and no .40 cal S&W. What happened I wish to go back to the original page again.

Please mention the name of the page that you are trying to access. -- Lost^(talk) 18:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, have a look at .40 S&W. Addhoc 18:44, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

challenging neutrality[edit]

How do I challenge the neutrality of an article? Ta. CAPSPAC 19:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Add {{POV}} to the top of the article, and explain your reasoning well on the talk page. (Click the "discussion" tab at the top of the article to access the talk page.) Grand master ka 19:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

my bio[edit]

I'm a winkapedia subject. Am I allowed to edit my own bio ? Just don't want to break the rules and I didn't see it referred to in the FAQ.Wallykennedy 20:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks <email removed for security reasons>

Try WP:AUTO for the information you need. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 20:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Index.php browser message[edit]

When i try to edit a page, why do i sometimes get a message from my browser, asking me if I want to download a file called "index.php"? What is this for? Should I save it, or what should I do? And should I be worried about this? Anyone else have the same problem? --Sm8900 20:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go to Special:Preferences. In the Editing section untick "Use external editor by default". -- Lost^(talk) 03:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article "PAUX" might be more complicated then neccessary[edit]

Dear help desk team,

your admin steel359 suggested to improve the article with the name "PAUX". Maybe you could help us to find easier explanations for a not so easy topic.

Thanks and kindest regards WissenVeredeln

You may want to take the article to Wikipedia:Peer review where it can get inputs from a wider community -- Lost^(talk) 03:31, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

create an account[edit]

your site won't let me create an account. what am I doing wrong? Keeps saying invalid password.

Try this link. G.H e 23:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where did you get the Zacatecas migratory rate?[edit]

On the page on Zacatecas, Mexico, it says that is estimated that 50% of the population of Zacatecas resides in the United States. Is there any way to figure out where that fact came from? And quick?!?!

If it is not referenced and you think it may disputed, just tag it with {{fact}}. Alternately you can ask the question at the article's talk page. -- Lost^(talk) 03:23, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tool to count articles in a category and its sub categories[edit]

I am looking for a tool that will give me the number of articles within a category and all its sub categories. Can someone point me to such a tool please? Thanks -- Lost^(talk) 03:34, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I asked this not too long ago: /Archive 64#Counting articles in a category. CatScan is supposed to do the trick, but it's not going to do much of a job for the really big categories (like, for example, Category:Lists which I wanted to count). Confusing Manifestation 04:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. You r right. It stopped counting after 1000 articles. The category I am looking for (Category:India) is also very large. I suspect it runs into much more than 1000 articles. -- Lost^(talk) 06:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can make a PyWikipedia bot recursively fetch the category's articles using category.py (you'll have to manually edit category.py to turn recursive to true) and then count the number in the list of articles it gets. It would be pretty easy. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 10:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, the irony of it!! I was looking for this tool to aid in getting a bot approval. And it turns out that I will need to make another bot to get this info :). Well thanks anyway -- Lost^(talk) 13:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it wouldn't really be a bot, as it would not be editing any pages, and thus would not require bot approval. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 13:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I need php5srvlt.jar to run php in Tomcat[edit]

Hello,

I need php5srvlt.jar for running php in tomcat.Please any one know send me the jar file to <email removed>.

I'm sorry, I think you might have the wrong place. This Help Desk is for answering questions about using Wikipedia. The people at the Reference Desk may be able to help you, though... —K e akealani 07:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What Are Floating Images[edit]

Danke.100110100 07:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

With CSS, floating is a property you can give to an image[16]. After insertion of image (aligned to the left or right), the text following the image tag will be displayed around image (see some visual examples here & also see WP:IMG for its usage in wiki markup). —Mitaphane _talk 07:25, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is this file not fount in INTERNET, any help welcom!

tt30[edit]

Hello, An article presenting what is tt30 (the think thank 30 of the club of rome has been deleted) without reason. The think tank "Club of Rome" still has a reference to the young think tank tt30. Thanks and regards, Carlos

Hardly "without reason" according to the delete log [17]. Notinasnaid 08:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Boxes at the bottom of pages[edit]

Hi, I was looking at a page (Dirge of Cerberus), and I noticed one of the links in one of the bottom boxes needs updating. The box I'm talking about is the one that reads 'Dirge of Cerberus -Final Fantasy VII-' and has four rows of links (i.e. the characters, Vincent Valentine - Cait Sith - Yuffie Kisaragi)

Can someone direct me to where I could edit the template of that box?

Certainly, Template:Dirge of Cerberus and if you want to introduce this into articles use {{Dirge of Cerberus}}. The code is visible if you are the editing the page. Hope this helps. Addhoc 09:12, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I make contacts?[edit]

I am a Ugandan based in Kampala. I would like to get in personal contact with some interesting American philanthropists like Ted Turner, Bill gates (or their personal representatives' contacts) and many more. From your website you do not seem to provide any of their personal contacts. Can you assist a bonafide person like me to get their email contacts? I can name more particular philanthropist(s) of interst to me if you respond positively.

Regards Peter Kabanda <email removed>

Sorry, this is a project to write an encyclopedia . Addhoc 09:31, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let me guess... you have the opportunity to obtain the sum of TWENTY MILLION U.S. DOLLARS from a deceased government minister who had the money offshore and left no heirs, but to get it you need the bank account information of an American philanthropist who will be able to keep a share of it. Is that right? *Dan T.* 12:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Subst'ed?[edit]

Someone posted this to my user page: "Just FYI, this template isn't supposed to be subst'ed." in reference to a copyvio template. Where can I look to find a plain English translation? I'm scratching my head over this. Kathy A. 13:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This means you should not add {{copyvio}} to a page, but {{subst:copyvio}}. The difference is the first version leaves exactly what you added while the second version leaves the expanded version of the template. Templates that should be "subst'd" should be so indicated in their usage notes (on the template itself or its talk page). -- Rick Block (talk) 13:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it sounds like the comment you received is the opposite of what is described above. The poster wants you to use {{templatename}}, not {{subst:templatename}}. dpotter 14:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Template substitution also provides an enumeration of those templates that should almost always be substituted and those that should almost never be substituted; {{copyvio}}, FWIW, is, as your talk page interlocutor observes, of the latter set (consistent with Dpotter's conclusion), principally because a substitution produces "far too much wikicode" and because "a bot relies upon it to populate WP:CP with unlisted articles". Joe 16:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both very much -- now I know what was meant, and where to look for more info!

sub sub section link[edit]

I am having trouble linking to a sub sub section on the Chris Young (baseball starting pitcher) page. There are two Game3 sub sections in the 2006 National League Division Series page. I want to link to the second.TonyTheTiger 22:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the link to the second subsection. 2006 National League Division Series#Game 3, October 7 2. Notice, the 2 at the end to differentiate between the two sections -- Lost^(talk) 03:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ThanksTonyTheTiger 14:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image upload[edit]

The following is an e-mail I just received. I have succeeded in gettting permission to use the John Kendrew image in Wikipedia, I gather full permission, but the image has to be low resolution. How do I handle and tag this??

"I have, through various discussions with people here, been able to get approval for you to use the image of John Kendrew on your Wikipedia entry. As you know this is not the sort of approval we normally give, but it was felt that we could in this case. However, we are only prepared to let you have a low resolution image, which is of good enough quality for web pages and people's own use, but if people require a higher resolution copy for publishing or commerical use, they could then get in touch with us. If this is OK then please use the image and credit it to MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology. ANNETTE FAUX Archivist " --Dumarest 13:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Simply shrink the image in a free image editing program, such as the GIMP. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 13:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The image, sent from MRC, is already in the form indicated. The question is what image template/tag should I use in uploading it?? And how to validate that MRC has released it but I am the uploader, and there are conditions [size] but otherwise a released image??

You have to be careful with image permission; permission for Wikipedia only isn't accepted. You should make sure you know what licence is given by the licence holder. If they've said 'fine for any use but it must be reduced size', you can use {{CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat|the image is low-resolution}}; but make sure they have said that! You should send a copy of the request and the response to permissions AT wikimedia DOT org, where Wikipedians can confirm independently that the permission is correct. --ais523 12:31, 16 October 2006 (U T C)

informations[edit]

how can i add my username to a wikipedia-project ? or join the participants list ? Yunis79 14:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the list is a list on the page and not a category, you simply edit it and add in your name. If the list is a category, put your userpage in the category by adding the category code to your userpage. See my userpage for an example: I'm part of WikiProject Anime and Manga. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 16:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

floods[edit]

how do you get a good page about floods?

You type "Flood" into the box at the left and click Go. Notinasnaid 15:11, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, but the question was about how to get a "good page" about floods. In which case, the procedure is to type "flood" into the search box and click Go, then click on Edit, cleaning the text up and finding reliable sources for its claims, at which point you can nominate it as a good article. And voila, you're done! Confusing Manifestation 02:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Largest College Campus by Acreage[edit]

I am trying to find out the largest College Campus by acreage only... Berry College in Mount Berry, Ga. (Near Rome, Ga.) has 28,000 acres. Are there any bigger?

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --MCB 17:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirection[edit]

I was writing a new article the other day and I was wondering how to make title redirection. For instance, if type in "Arthur Wellesley" into the search, it will redirect me immediately to the article on Arthru Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington. Thank you.

You can try this yourself by looking going to the "Arthur Wellesley" article. At the top you will see Redirected from... Arthur Wellesley. This isn't a silly circular link, as it might seem: click on it to visit the redirect page, and then click Edit to see the magic. Notinasnaid 15:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

treatment for cardiac problems[edit]

I would like to know the name of the Irish physician who treated heart disease successfully with his secret 'heart formula' which was revealed to be tincture of hawthorn after his death in the 1890's.

Perhaps you are looking for the reference desk? — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 17:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To elaborate on Dark Shikari's answer, this help desk answers queries related to wikipedia only. To know anything else you can try asking the reference desk under the appropriate section -- Lost^(talk) 14:06, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rogue employee changing company information[edit]

We have an ex-employee that inserts his personal information in our company biography. We don't know what to do and feel a little helpless. What measures can be taken to handle this?

You can request that the article be Semi-protected if the employee is using an IP or sockpuppets to edit the article. If he's using a single main account, you can report it to an administrator. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 19:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

W. O. Larsen, Danish pipemaker[edit]

How do I find the date of death for Ole Larsen, famous pipemaker of Copenhagen? Thanks very much. """"

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --MCB 17:32, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strange watchlist behaviour[edit]

I have had the page 1 Ceres on my watchlist for some time, but it's just today been moved to Ceres (dwarf planet). Now both these pages are appearing on the alphabetic watchlist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist/edit) but neither of them are appearing anywhere on the watchlist itself, not for the move itself or the most recent other change. Is this a known problem with page moves? Cheers — SteveRwanda 18:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reporting Vandalism[edit]

I'm a very occasional Wikipedia reader who noticed that an entry has been vandalized (Olaf_II_of_Norway): is there a simple means for uneducated outsiders to flag this, or does one have to go about creating an account and learning wikipedia protocols etc. to handle it?

I looked over the wikipedia vandalism entry -- it's daunting to a neophyte. Is the best thing to just assume that someone who knows what they're doing will spot the problem and fix it pretty quickly?

207.168.235.190 18:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All you have to do is revert the article. Go to the history, find the last non-vandalized entry, open it, click edit, and save. Use "rvv vandalism" or a similarly useful edit summary to show that you have reverted it. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 19:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This How to revert to a previous version of a page may also be of some help. --S-Ranger 21:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

who started wikipedia?[edit]

who founded wikipedia and when?

See Wikipedia entry :) Equendil Talk 19:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Antwan Jones[edit]

Hello -

I recently submitted an article for Antwan Jones. I checked today to see the status (It was created Oct. 10) but it is nowhere to be found. Please help!

Micheal Kutner

Your article can still be found here: Wikipedia:Articles for creation/2006-10-12#Antwan Jones. No-one accepted (or rejected) the request, possibly because the subject does not appear to meet the criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (academics). If you disagree you are welcome to create an account (at Special:Userlogin) and post it yourself, though it may be deleted. --Cherry blossom tree 22:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

metals[edit]

how do the properties determine the uses for diffrent metals.

Umm, it depends? This sounds a lot like a homework question. You havn't even told us if there's any properties in particular that you're interested in. I mean, there's electrical and heat conductivity, malleability, radioactive stability, density, colour, lustre, and on and on. You could fill a book with the possible answers to this question. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It does sound like a homework question. Knowledge based questions should be asked at the reference desk, but this is probably too general. You should read metal (and articles linked from there) and articles on specific metals (copper, zinc, iron and so on) and if you have a more specific question, try the reference desk. --Cherry blossom tree 22:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Santa Fe Depot[edit]

I erred and can't figure out how to fix it. I was attempting to link the List of Registered Historic Places in San Diego County, California listing of "Santa Fe Depot", which had no article link, to its proper article Union Station (San Diego). Instead of making the html link "[Union Station (San Diego)|Santa Fe Depot]" (outside brackets not shown), I made a redirect of Santa Fe Depot which I'm now positive was the wrong proceedure as the simple title "Santa Fe Depot" likley should go to a disambiguation page.

I've since corrected the "Santa Fe Depot" link at List of Registered Historic Places in San Diego County, California, but now I can't delete Santa Fe Depot or redirect it anywhere. Can somebody in the know fix this? Thanks. --Marriedtofilm 02:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I did the same thing to Topeka Atchison and Santa Fe Railroad Station. Now it wont redirect to Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway as I've assigned it to. --Marriedtofilm 02:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to redirect properly here. Did you try clearing your browser's cache? — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 02:46, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I feel a little embarrassed now. Topeka Atchison and Santa Fe Railroad Station now appears to properly redirect. Can't explain why it didn't work properly for several minutes. But I guess the issue is "Santa Fe Depot" (now redirecting to Union Station (San Diego)) seems like a search term as there could be many Santa Fe Depots and it probably should be deleted. I don't know how to do that. --Marriedtofilm 02:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just broke the Santa Fe Depot redirect for you. Now it won't redirect, and you can go edit it. In the future, when you get redirected, it says "redirected from XXXXXXXX" on the top of the article. If you click on the XXXXXXXXX (whatever the redirect's name was), it'll send you back to the redirect so you can edit it. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 12:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Subscription to the Post?[edit]

Hello everybody. I would just like to ask how you subscribe to the Wikipedia Signpost. I signed up using my other account called Chili14, but I forgot how to do it and I don't want to redirect it all to my talk page because I don't know if it will screw up the bot. If anybody knows how or can refer me to another place, please do so. Thank you very much and please have a nice day.--Ch ili fix 04:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC) P.S Go to my userpage for an update on Chili14.[reply]

To receive a weekly message with the full Signpost masthead, you may place User talk:Chilifix at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Tools/Spamlist; should you prefer a single Signpost box to be updated each week, you may place one of the subscription templates on your user or talk page. Hope that helps... Joe 04:47, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that did help alot!--Ch ili fix 05:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Search problem[edit]

Good day! I created an article Nuestra Señora del Buen Suceso, but when I search it using the Search button, there are no matches. What's wrong with my article?

Thanks, User:Mark j

See Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#An article doesn't show up in the search. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 11:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question on new article[edit]

I have just created a new article and saved it but when I then put the article title in the search box it doesn't find it. Please help. Newworldtapestry 10:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#An article doesn't show up in the search. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 11:03, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks but how long do you typically have to wait? Newworldtapestry 11:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A lot. Usually it's several weeks at least. In any case, this article (The New World Tapestry) isn't in a very good state, and I'm not sure the subject is notable enough. Hopefully others with more knowledge in the field will look into it, and help improve it if it is kept. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. You say it's not in a very good state - do you mean actual content of it or the format/layout. Sorry but I'm new to all this Newworldtapestry 13:35, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly the layout. I can't really comment about the content since I am not knowledgeable about art and have no experience with art-related Wikipedia articles. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 14:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Supress interwiki link[edit]

Hello.
French contributor to WP-FR (french), I'd like to delete the [[fr:SuperCard]] interwiki link in the SuperCard article because it's not the same thing. But I'm blocked with a "anti-spam" blocking from WP. Anyone can delete this interwiki link please ?
Thanks a lot :)
Draky 10:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed it. The problem was that the article had a link to the blacklisted URL http://supercard.netfirms.com/, and wouldn't accept any edit which keeps it. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:12, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot :) Draky 13:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HAVING AN ACCOUNT[edit]

COULD YOU PLEASE HOW DO WE GO ABOUT GETTING A VISA ACOOUNT FOR OUR INSTITUTION?

This is Wikipedia, a free encyclopedia and this help desk is for answering questions about how to use Wikipedia. Knowledge questions are asked at the References desk, but I'm not sure that anyone can help you other than noting that it's hard to imagine any institution easier to look up than Visa who offer sign up and advertize their contact information all over the internet and in businesses in many stores all over the world. Try Clicking here.--Fuhghettaboutit 11:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lost page.[edit]

I have just created and saved a page titled "Police Rugby League (Victoria)". After saving, I can not find it again, please help.

Thanks,

Barry Randall <removed email for security reasons>

You'll find it here. However, I have tagged it for speedy deletion, as it falls under CSD/A7: an article about a club that doesn't reach notability standards, such as having multiple news articles and/or other types of secondary sources about it. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 12:39, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redlinks After Modifying CSS[edit]

I changed the value settings for link colors in my User:CSS after getting help from an earlier post. However, after doing that, I cannot see any redlinks. What tagline do I insert to make redlinks appear red again? Aelfthrytha 13:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

creating a page[edit]

how do i create a page??

See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. -- Lost^(talk) 14:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you are required to have an account - see WP:ACCOUNT. Addhoc 15:14, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Valid use of subpages?[edit]

I am just wondering if the following a valid use of a user subpage. I upload a fair amount of fair use images (in particular album covers). As they require a rationale, and all the albums covers I upload, I would deem to be uploaded under the same rationale, is it ok to create subpage template which I subst, that has the contants specified (mainly the part where it specifies why its fair use e.g. can't replace original etc.)? It doesn't seem to fall into allowed or disallowed uses on the WP page on subpages (it obviously would be a bad idea to create it as a public template, which is why I have it as a subpage). Thanks. - ^Рэд _хот 14:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As long as the template makes sense in terms of the rationale for each case where it is used, I dont see a problem with creating it as your user subpage -- Lost^(talk) 15:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I thought. Thanks - ^Рэд _хот 15:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help with an IP editor[edit]

Don't really know what to do here. 69.40.177.171 has been submitting well-written articles about notable albums to AfC, and I've been approving and creating them. But then, he's gone back to the created articles that he wrote... and removed the sources on all of them?? What should I do, and does anyone have any idea what *he* is doing? — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 16:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I couldnt make out why he removed the source!! Maybe just ask him on his talk page. He seems to have many edits to know the way of the wiki -- Lost^(talk) 18:35, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

HI, I found nowhere a key or audio file to help someone properly vocalize the word Wikipedia. I would really appreciate some help. Is it obvious? A confirmation would put the matter to rest. Thanks. And I would suggest an audio file on your main page would be a bonus.

Sincerely,

Jon R. Venema <email removed>

There is an audio version of Wikipedia's article on Wikipedia, which may be relevant for your purposes. See Wikipedia#External links. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 16:44, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting article[edit]

How do I get an administrator to delete an article in the Boston University Wiki (bu.elwiki.com)?

Thank you, 75.31.107.4 17:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You will need to contact an administrator of that wiki. This is wikipedia. Admins here will not be able to help you with your request -- Lost^(talk) 18:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see the statistics.[edit]

From Special:Statistics page, when I click "Detailed tables and charts of Wikipedia statistics" at the bottom, I get the message saying that "You are not authorized to view this page". What can I do? --Acepectif 19:26, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing, the page is broken at the moment. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 20:06, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help returning deleted article entitled "AEKWONDO HALL OF FAME"[edit]

I am a new user and created the article TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME. It was initially speedly deleted because there was not enough information identifying the source or autorization.

I then recreated it at length see below with extensive detail and clarity and it was deleted again: reason given was due to recreatuionof a deleted article. I am CONFUSED. PLEASE HELP!

The TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME is a non political organization which is based in the USA and founded by Gerard Robbins a 3 Time National AAU Taekwondo Champion and participant in the 2nd World Taekwondo Championship and Pre-World Taekwondo Games held in Seoul Korea in 1975 and 1978 respectfully. *See 1st Official National AAU Taekwondo Team In addition to being the first American to win simultaneous gold medals in form and sparring divisions at an official national Taekwondo event (1975),the founder also won the gold medal at the 1st Pan American Taekwondo Games held in Mexico City in 1978, and the Grand Championship at the All American Open Taekwondo, Karate, Kung Fu Championships, the same event won by Chuck Norris in 1967 and 1968.

The TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME was created for the purpose of: "providing recognition and incentives by the way of awards to demonstrate excellence in the field of Taekwondo which is also referred to as "Tae Kwon Do", and "Taekwon-Do".

Kim Pyung Soo a tenth degree black belt and the first Korean Correspondent for Black Belt Magazine from 1964 to 1968 serves as the Senior Technical Advisor to the TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME along with several other leaders in the field such as S. Henry Cho 9th Dan, Author and Director of the All American Open Taekwondo, Karate, and Kung-fu Championships since 1966, Richard Chun 9th Dan, Author, and former USA Team Coach, John Holloway the only American to medal in both World Taekwondo Federation (WTF) and International Taekwondo Federation (ITF) events. John Holloway also serves on the the Board of Directors of United States Taekwondo (USTA) the governing body for AAU Taekwondo in the USA and charter member of the United States Olympic Committee.

In addition to the twelve (12) technical advisors based in the United States, the TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME ® has representative technical advisors in Puerto Rico, Mexico, Canada, Tahiti, Nepal, Norway, Russia, Nigeria,Australia, Singapore, India and elsewhere making it a truly global organization.

The TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME recently received official registered trademark status ® from the United States Patent and Trademark Office located in Washington DC

Hmm. Because you completely redid the article, it shouldn't be speedily deleted as such. Unfortunately, if you can't come up with any references for any of this, it'll probably be deleted again anyway. Wooty 20:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Going through Google, I can only find a very small number of hits - using an exact search, I get 3 hits, none of which are relevant, and doing a broader search, only a one relevant result. There is no possible justification for keeping this article, it was both advertising which Wikipedia doesn't permit and it was for an organisation that cannot be described as notable (compare with the International Olympic Committee for example) if there was any reason to keep the article, another editor and a Wikipedia admin would have retained the article

Can't seem to find the wikipedia taskbar download.[edit]

I'm not entirely sure what you want, but it's probably listed at WP:TOOLS. --Cherry blossom tree 22:39, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editing an article[edit]

Hi, I have used the Wikipedia much but only just registered and tried to edit.

I have just finished a Ph.D. on empathy and ethics, with a VERY large section on the history of the term empathy. I am wondering why I can't edit the opening paragraph of the Empathy article. Likewise for Theodor Lipps, and for Carl Rogers. I can't seem to find this in the FAQ's. Thanks, kc

There are two ways to do this: edit the whole article (see the "Edit this page" tab on the top of the page), or click on the link to edit the first section, and change the last character of the URL from a "1" to a "0", so it becomes &action=edit&section=0 instead of &action=edit&section=1.[18] — Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 21:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello wikipedian people![edit]

Congratulations! How are you? FML ^{hi me at pt} 21:11, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think your looking for WP:NEW. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 21:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit summary question[edit]

In the edit summary section, I often see people place an arrow that redirects to a certain section in that article, confirming that they edited that section (like this: → *section*). I still don't know how to do this....Answer please? Xtremeblur 23:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you edit by section, it should automatically be filled out for you. For example, the full text of my edit summary, here, is going to be /* Edit summary question */ replying to helpdesk. Hope that helps! Luna Santin 00:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thank you. Xtremeblur 02:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trouble Editing[edit]

I'm having trouble editing the paragraphs I added to the Charleston County School of the Arts citation. I'm not sure why I can't save what I added.

Bill Smyth Curriculum Coordinator School of the Arts

Bill, what happens exactly when you click the "Save page" button after editing? --MCB 20:27, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Assigning Anon posting to username after post?[edit]

Hi, I know I'm rather stupid for doing this, but sometimes I make edits and realise I wasn't logged in, is there any way that I can fix this after I've realised and/or stop Wikipedia from allowing me to post while not logged in so I dont make the mistake again?

Thanks

Unfortunately, we can't reassign edits to different users. The closest we can do is to log in and go back, either signing it (if it's a talk page), or by making a null edit and using the edit summary to claim it, if it's an article or project page. Luna Santin 02:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

unalienable Rights[edit]

I have been looking for a list of the "unalienable Rights" Jefferson refers to in the Preamble of the Declaration of Independence. Can you direct me to a site that will list the unalienable rights that are not mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. On Wikepedia site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unalienable on the third line down from the top it refers to "Several different sets of inalienable rights have been suggested by philosophers". Can you direct me to any of those "Several different sets"? Also, which set would Jefferson be refering to as he wrote?

Thanks, Hikerjim

Try the article Human rights; it might have some more info. Anchoress 01:28, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV issues on Urdu Wikipedia[edit]

A certain user of English Wikipedia User:AFRAZULQURAISH (his talk) has somehow become an administrator at Urdu language Wikipedia. He has been abusing Urdu Wikipedia to impose his own Point of View and often poses personal attacks if confronted. He has had absolutely no regard for other users' opinions and has been writing articles by creating new words and terminologies in Urdu which have no existance in widely spoken and literary Urdu. Most of other administrator (inclding me) have tried to confront him but later backed off. Now he has tried to delete Urdu articles about Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf and Nawaz Sharif, and has created inflamatory titles of categories. Instead of dicussing he is removing deletion suggesting templates. He insists that article about Pakistan should be removed because in his opinion Pakistan has insulted Islam and humanity. I respect his opinion (although do not agree) but Wikpidea is not a place for opinion. He has been refered to Wikiedia Policies but has refused to accept by stating that I am singing the song of policies (it's a contemptuous expression). We don't have many strict policy policing members at Urdu Wikipedia, and I coudn't find a better place to complain about him. My question is what whould we, other users of Urdu Wikiopedia, do and can senior admins of English Wikipedia help us deal with this NPOV violator. Szhaider 01:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure how the Urdu Wikipedia works. Each language pedia has fairly independent working. You may like to take this up with the mediawiki foundation if there are no other official methods of dispute resolution there -- Lost^(talk) 03:42, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scarborough[edit]

Why does searching Scarborough bring you to the English town? The Canadian Scarborough has ten times the population so therefore would be more likely to be looked up. --The Dark Side 01:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is a case for Wikipedia:Disambiguation. Either put a link to the Canadian town on top of this article or make this one a disambiguation page and create links to all towns named Scarborough from there -- Lost^(talk) 03:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seymour Knox[edit]

I would like to request that the Seymour Knox page be moved to Seymour H. Knox, III so that I can create the proper pages for Seymour I and Seymour II. The following links (in addition to the Seymour H. Knox III redirect will need to be moved as well)

Have done it. Please go ahead and create a disambig page at Seymour Knox and link all other articles there -- Lost^(talk) 03:46, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please move Seymour H. Knox III to Seymour H. Knox, III TonyTheTiger 12:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

O.K., now I realize there is no comma before Roman Numeralization. Could you please move Seymour H. Knox, II and Seymour H. Knox, I accordingly. TonyTheTiger 17:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Pages?[edit]

I am wondering if it is possible to revert pages that have apparently been deleted. For example, the article Otaku Ninjas did exist at some point but is not there anymore - can we revert to the page that was once there or is it gone for good?

Members of the Hockey Hall of Fame (chronological)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Articles

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Archive5

List of people by name: Knj-Knz

Members of the Hockey Hall of Fame (alphabetical)TonyTheTiger 02:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators can delete and undelete pages, but generally only do so when a good reason is provided, keeping in mind deletion policy, including AfD, prod, and criteria for speedy deletion. The deletion log for the article in quesiton may have more information (including a reason for deletion), or you could contact the deleting administrator for comment. To request a review of the deletion, please see deletion review. Hope that helps! Luna Santin 03:13, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can see the reason for deletion by going to the URL of the page in question, and clicking on the link that says "deletion log". For example, Otaku ninjas has its reason for deletion as 13:08, 10 April 2006 Flowerparty (Talk | contribs) deleted "Otaku ninjas" (deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Otaku ninjas), and the AfD in question has a little more information. Confusing Manifestation 14:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

vatican city[edit]

1 Why vatican city have been given world heritage listing 2 how has world heritage listing affected vatican city202.76.138.19 03:16, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. -- Lost^(talk) 03:39, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting stressed on this article I've gotten involved in, Anabolic steroid[edit]

Hi,i am so stressed out i love chicken

Condensing Userboxes[edit]

How do I go about "condensing" any userbox I make from a code like

{{Userbox |border-c = color |border-s = size |id-c = color |id-s = fontsize |id-fc = fontcolor |info-c = color |info-s = size |info-fc = color |id = ID |info = blah blah blah}}

To something like {{ShortAndEasyUserboxCode}}?

Or is this only something that happens when your userbox is accepted for public use? State Alchemist 03:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Answered on talk page. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 05:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

About special links[edit]

Can someone please tell me what the links [[es:Liberty Basic]] and [[nl:Liberty Basic]] do at the end of the Liberty Basic page? and how could I have discovered the answer to this without bothering you?-GrahameKing 04:44, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There're links to other wiki's in other languages. They go in a box on the side of the page under the toolbox called in other languages. Hope that helps. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 04:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that, but I still can't find any help on this. The links I mentioned aren't working - if I put in a leading : on the dutch link it takes me to a translation in the Dutch Wikipedia but the other one doesn't seem to work. Should these links be made to work? I mean should they even be there after the category link at the bottom of the article? Should they be in the article at all? -GrahameKing 13:27, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they should. Open the Liberty BASIC page and look at the links in the left toolbar - under the "toolbox" there should be an "in other languages" box, containing links to the Spanish and Dutch versions of the article - those links tell Wikipedia what the article is called in those other languages (incidentally, the es one probably didn't work because the page is titled Liberty BASIC, and there's no Liberty Basic redirect, whereas there is one on nl - it looks like the page now has the correct article links). Confusing Manifestation 14:23, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirecting[edit]

If I want to redirect a single phrase to an existing article, do I have to start a new article about the phrase and THEN redirect it? I'm not a brand new user, but I really haven't contributed as much as I'd like to yet besides editing and fixing typos (which seem to be quite abundant). -Cooter285 05:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you wanted to redirect (for example) hgjd to Games for some reason, you'd start the article hgjd and hit the redirect button in the toolbar (it has a #R), then enter the text to redirect to. But make sure it would be a valid redirect. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 05:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that was fast. As it turns out, I didn't need to redirect anything. The phrase I typed (or NAME actually) was Naji Al-Hadithi, but I got an article for Naji Sabri. It wasn't exactly redirected, but the name I had typed, which I didn't notice at first, was in the article clip on the search page that I was looking at. Thanks for the help anyways! I didn't know how to redirect before, and now I know. Hopefully this will lead me to contribute more to the site, which is something that I've been wanting to do since I joined this summer.-Cooter285 05:20, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even with your problem solved, I must say that no, you shouldn't create an article. Just use piped links, like this:

:In 1999, a [[Movie|movie with the same name]] was released. Which ends up like:

In 1999, a movie with the same name was released.

☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 05:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I saw an example of this in my Naji search as well -> Live from Baghdad. Thanks! -Cooter285 05:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I add a tag to ask for a page to be edited for bias?[edit]

How do I add a tag to ask for a page to be edited for bias?

Type {{POV-check}} and

A Wikipedian has nominated this article to be checked for its neutrality.
Discussion of this nomination can be found on the talk page.

appears. Addhoc 12:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

stats.wikimedia.org gives HTTP 403[edit]

Hi,

does anybody know why the site http://stats.wikimedia.org gives a 403 Forbidden? It was accessible approx. 2 weeks ago but it is not in the last 1.5 weeks. I just would like to know if I can expect the site working again (and when).

Thank you,

Lajos --86.101.71.240 12:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Citing Trouble[edit]

I'm using the one source for different points in an article. But when I put the citation on more than one sentence, half the article doesn't appear. I added nowiki tags to show what I did. For example:

After being spotted at her graduation fashion show, King was invited to New York to begin modeling professionally.<ref name="Model">{{cite web | publisher=AskMen.com| title=James King| url= http://www.askmen.com/women/models/41c_james_king.html| accessdate=October 15|acessyear=2006}}</ref>

By 1997, despite her growing modeling career, King was a [[heroin]] addict and [[alcoholic]], but following the death of her boyfriend, [[fashion photographer]] Davide Sorrenti (who overdosed on heroin) she became sober.<ref name="Model">

After the <ref name="Model"> tag, it would be blank. What should I do? -Lindsey8417 13:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The <ref name="Model"> is the opening tag. It wants the closing </ref> to be complete. However, you can put in the opening and closing tags combined (for the second use) by using <ref name="Model"/>. Try that. Confusing Manifestation 14:18, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Using Wikipedia Images on a website[edit]

I'm designing a website for my school (i'm a student) and I've been using wikimedia images to spice things up and provide information, Wikipedia is cited as the source for the images well enough and I've made a big banner for the Links page saying how great it is =) I know each image has it's own circumstances but is it likely to be a problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean2k2 (talk • contribs)

It shouldn't be a problem as long as you do not use images that are tagged as "Fair use". Note that some licences have restrictions (for example, GFDL images require a link to the place you got them from), and you should probably check to make sure you have the proper requirements for each image. Good luck on your project! Prodego ^talk 13:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

118th Pennsylvania Corn Exchange Regiment[edit]

I am new to Wikipedia and find a few things frustrating. I posted an article called "118th Pennsylvania 'Corn Exchange' Regiment." An unknown person marked it for not being categorized and needing style changes. I have acted in good faith in creating this article and don't know what else to do or where to ask for help. Who marked it? An administrator? I sometimes get things marked or changed and it is done anonymously. This isn't right. I should know who is doing these things and who the administrator is and how to contact them. Often I try to reply in the Talk or Discussion page with pleas for help and never get an answer (refer to my contributions in the article "Military Badge of Merit" and see how an apparent administrator "Hunock" never identified himself and never answered my questions to him!). I don't think this is a way to treat a newcomer. I think the anonymous person that marked my article should tell me what they want so I can do it, or they should be a contributor and just do it themselves. If someone is going to mark up an article, they should be prepared to take on the responsibility to do the work themselves. The way my article was marked up without any explanatin was ignorant. Especially when I see so many other articles out there that have no sources at all and easily get past the censors. Please don't send me links to Wikipedia style, rules, etc. I have already read those and still need someome to answer my questions. I have had enough of the referral links. I have tried to share my expertise on certain subjects in an objective way with sources annotated and void of original research, etc. - in accordance of Wikipedia rules. I feel compelled to contribute because I see basic misinformation with certain topics that can actually hurt and discredit your project.

As a person of expertise in certain areas, I feel I may be experiencing elitism, jealousy and resentment. Refer to article by Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/12/30/142458/25

I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING AND I DON'T KNOW ALL YOUR RULES. I wish I knew more about Wikipedia style, etc. Despite my rule-abiding behavior and efforts, it is becoming a bit of a hassle. As a newcomer that has expertise and experience in research and writing, I feel insulted by the way some are treating me. Why should I continue to contribute to Wikipedia?

Hi, I'm sorry that your experience of Wikipedia so far has been slightly frustrating. Obviously, Wikipedia functions on the basis that anyone can edit the articles. Also, you can see other Wikipedians edits by looking at the "history" tab at the top of the page. I'll have a look at the Badge of Military Merit article. Finally, could I suggest you sign your posts using 4 tildes (~~~~). Thanks, Addhoc 15:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the Badge of Military Merit article plus talk page, I would comment that possibly there is some confusion about Husnock's involvement. My understanding is that although he is an admin, in this case he is purely editing the article and isn't attempting to act in the capacity of a moderator. Regarding stylistic concerns, could you give an example of what sort of information you're looking for. Thanks, Addhoc 15:11, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you getting offended at someone marking your article for improvement? I would think that would be a good thing that they noticed your article and what needed to be fixed about it. For many articles, they just get ignored. Marking your article is not a personal attack on you! — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 15:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the mistake you may be making is in thinking that the tags are a message to you, a demand that you improve your article. But of course, it isn't your article any more, it belongs to Wikipedia. So think of the tags as an invitation to the general Wikipedia community to come in and improve the article. Nobody starts out knowing all of the things expected in Wikipedia – but nobody has to work alone, either. There are lots of people to help. A crucial resource is the talk page of each article, where people can get together to discuss what is needed. But I see the community has already done some of its magic on 118th Pennsylvania "Corn Exchange" Regiment. By comparing what you wrote and what is left, you might choose to learn about how to improve your next article – or leave it to the community if it's still baffling. Nice work! Notinasnaid 20:01, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

translation[edit]

How to translate an article in English to Hindi?

how do i obtain a user name? - I'll leave a welcome note on your talk page that explains how. Addhoc 15:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

what is a users name? - See the User page article. Addhoc 15:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want the search item's as histroy[edit]

Dear Sir, I type some words in the search window. & after that i don't want the history of theses specific words on the serch window's menu. plz tell me the specific function to diasable that facility.

plz do the needful & urgent

Warm Regards, Rakesh patil

It is your browser that does this, not Wikipedia. If you look in your browser's privacy options you will find a way to turn this off and to clear those that are already stored. If you can't find it, say what browser you use and we can be more specific. --Cherry blossom tree 15:29, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No personnal attack[edit]

Hello,

I've been subjected to a personnal attack in page. I don't know how to use the signaling process (things like npa2), I don't understand how to use them. Could you help me please ?

Thank you TwoHorned 15:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

chances of getting pregnant by oral sex[edit]

i just want to know that is there any chances of getting pregnant by swallowing someones semen during the periods.

Please ask this question at the Reference Desk as this desk is reserved for questions about "How to use Wikipedia". --hydnjo talk 15:53, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cladistics coding[edit]

I think i saw somewhere a while ago something about coding (like that for the math code in wikipedia) to made up taxonomic trees. So that by just typing in a code it would create an image, probably in svg format or something, that displays the tree. Does anyone know if i am going crazy or is this actually true? chris_huh 15:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Downloading[edit]

How do I download from the internet specifically wikipedia

See Wikipedia:Database download ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 17:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Will_%26_Grace[edit]

The template at the top of page doesn't seem to link to any project - is there more information about this "series" somewhere? --Charlesknight 16:55, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I gather you are referring to:

This article is part of the "Gay Pride" series on Wikipedia.

There's a discussion at User talk:CyntWorkStuff#Bisexual pride flag 2 which gives some clues... Addhoc 17:24, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Double redirects - what to do[edit]

Not sure how to handle them, as I don't understand the Wikipedia instructions. I discovered this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabini_river which I think falls under the double redirect category. I click Kabini river and get that link. Mattisse (talk) 16:57, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind. I think I figured out that it was a capitalization problem. If I change the spelling to Kabini River, the redirect does not appear. Mattisse (talk) 17:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you come across a double-redirect, it helps if you fix it up - click on the little link that says "Redirected from (first redirect name)", and then edit that one so that instead of redirecting to the redirect, it redirects to the appropriate article. Confusing Manifestation 02:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image problems[edit]

I have just posted an article about a comicbook artist. I am trying to post an image but I am having trouble. I can see the picture on my contributions and when I try to link to the uploaded picture it doesn't work and I get a broken link saying something about tagging. I have tagged it properly or at least I think I have. Here is the address to the picture. can you tell me what i did wrong please? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hellions_no_1_coverCOLOR_by_Clayton_Henry.jpg

Actually, I don't think it is properly tagged, unless the comic was issued with no writing on the cover. To qualify as a cover for fair use, the entire cover must be shown, otherwise it is a piece of art and needs an entirely different fair use claim. Bear in mind too the uses listed in the claim: to illustrate an article about the artist is not listed. That said, none of these will stop your picture appearing in an article. And I do see the picture in Clayton Henry. Notinasnaid 17:57, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do I message somebody?[edit]

I do not know reply or send messages to people. 2 people sent me belligerent messages accusing me of vandalism because they disagreed with my post. They said they can block my ip if I change the article. Can they do that?

I myself have contributed a great deal of time and effort to provide accurate and legible information on a page, only to be turned around and accused of intentionally falsifying or destroying it. Much of the work on this page was created through my time and effort for the sake of the users that browes it. Threats and belligerence are not appreciated. Wikipedia is for users and supported by users through our donations to keep a good encyclopedia free for everybody.

Basically what these 2 people told me was that either I stop editing the article, and let them have their way, or they will "assume" I am vandalizing, and ban my IP. I could not respond stating why I felt my information was accurate. I tried to include it in the edit, but when I edit it, somebody else reedited back the way they had it before even reading my edit. They basically say that it was edited, and took no time to check the edit. They then edited it back.

These are the 2 people that sent me those belligerent messages:

Pursey

khaosworks

Reply on your talk page (ie. click the edit button on the top of User talk:71.57.130.161), or click through their signatures to get to their own userpages, click "discussion" at the top, and respond there. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 19:30, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a dispute over the contents of a page, the place to take this up is the talk page of the article. It is very important to do this. In fact, if you make changes that are being reversed, it is essential, as you can otherwise end up with an "edit war" which is bad for Wikipedia. The contents of pages often have to be discussed, and a consensus reached. Ignoring that consensus is often called "vandalism", rightly or wrongly. If you want to contact a particular user, you can also do this by using the user's own talk page, though this is less useful for discussing just one article (they will probably refer you to the article's talk page). If a message is signed by typing ~~~~, a message includes a link to the user's talk page at the end, like this. Notinasnaid 19:35, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of broken/dead/as yet uncreated/etc wikilinks[edit]

Is there a list of broken/dead/as yet uncreated/etc Wikilinks which do not have articles attached to them yet?

If not, how could a wiki user create one?

Hi, I think this is what you're looking for Wikipedia:WikiProject_Red_Link_Recovery :) M a rtinp23 19:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Genius! thats really helpful thanks a lot! Phil 21:44, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem M a rtinp23 21:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

I found a page that someone edited, that was being a bit carless. (please see bottom of page)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kenoshans

What are some of the steps in place to stop this kind of behavior, and is there a way to restore the page to a state, before this individual decided to be funny.

You can revert to a previous version. See WP:RV for details how (and remember to sign your messages). --Alex (Talk) 19:54, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

trouble with peg tube feeding[edit]

my husband has a peg tube in which i feed him. however i am now having problems with him digesting and passing the tube feed. he seems to be producing more acid than needed, therefore causing alot of residual and not much nutrients for him.

where will i find help on possible an ideal to help him digest. he takes reglan and prevacid. he is a diabetic and i think this is just another issue with the stomach not working proper.

I suggest you go to the Science Reference desk. Thanks. --Alex (Talk) 20:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Better yet, seek advice from your physician. Wikipedia isn't able or qualified to give medical advice. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 21:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Link not working[edit]

Hi, I just finished writing a page for John’s Book of Alleged Dances (a composition by John Coolidge Adams). My problem is the internal link from the John Coolidge Adams page to the new John’s Book of Alleged Dances page is still red and doesn’t connect to the new page. At the moment to only way to get to the new page is through my user page. What am I doing wrong with this? Thanks! S.dedalus 20:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The problem was a character in the article title. In the article it was a single right quote, sometimes called a sexed quote, and in the links it was an apostrophe (') (unsexed single quote). I moved (renamed) the article to use the apostrophe, which is Wikipedia style for possessives. Should be fixed now. --MCB 20:39, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how to report a article[edit]

I found a article and i think it should be deleted where do i report it or what do i do? I think its advetising.

Go to WP:AFD and follow the instructions there. Thanks. --Alex (Talk) 21:28, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Report this[edit]

I looked at those pages of how to delete an article and it makes no sense to me so can someone report this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Its the myspace one, ive seen sites like ps3forums go down because wikipedia considered it advertising and i dont think its fair we let sites like myspace not be deleted as well. If myspace is aloud to continue then the ps3fourms one and many other ones ive seen go down fighting should be aloud to come back up as well. It isnt fair!

how i can put don't fix this in the edit page?, because every time i fix an article someone fix it again

It won't get deleted. The reason being Myspace passes WP:WEB. ps3forums must be non-notable. --Alex (Talk) 21:55, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

THAT MAKES NO SENSE. Its doing the exact same thing the other site was doing. The ps3forums one wasnt even advertising it, it was talking about people and hw they interact with the ps3 and such. They both are just talking about their sites and if one is deleted its not fair the other isnt deleted.

Put it up for deletion then, it isn't difficult. There are instructions down the page if you look. Please reconsider though because I guarantee it will not be deleted. --Alex (Talk) 22:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

sorry if it seems like im mad at you but im just expressing the fact that it isnt fair. I saw all those people, some were really proud of their work, and it got deleted then a site like myspace become a exception isnt right. I read that page about how to report a article and i dont get it just yet.

It's very frustrating when this happens, I empathise with you. However. Proposing for deletion an article because a putatively similar article was deleted is a violation of WP:POINT and WP:AGF. Each article must stand on its own merits. If you feel the deletion was unfair, you should take it up with the nominator, ask for an administrator's help, and/or nominate it for deletion review. Anchoress 22:06, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Often it's a question of sources. Myspace has been in international news quite frequently, it has been the subject of academic articles, and books have been written about it. That means that it's possible to write an objective academic article about it using those sources. To the best of my knowledge, none of these things has happened for ps3forums, therefore it's not possible. See WP:V for more. Ziggurat 22:11, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That still doesnt make sense. Ps3forums has many sources, along with other places. Just because the admin dont produce books about the site doesnt mean they are not credited by other places. Plus ive never seen a myspace book. Just look at gamespot or something and see that they get credit. Also just go there see how news breaks out there and then how fast other site pick it up, its a huge site and is very credible. Its not only them what about places like teambox.com or playstation.com? They are all the same and should be treated equel.

Go and put it up for AfD then if you don't believe it is worthy of being here. --Alex (Talk) 22:30, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would you want me to on your behalf? --Alex (Talk) 22:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Books on Myspace: [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24]. Books on Ps3forums: 0. When we say sources we mean reliable sources: several objective third parties writing about the website. If you have some please let me know, and I'd oppose the deletion of the page myself. I can't find any from searching online. Ziggurat 22:57, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The sites are by no means the same and should not be treated equally. One is famous and well-known outside of its own membership and readership, the other is much smaller, not at all reported on in any reliable source, and probably known only to its own members and (relatively) few others. The issue with the ps3forums article was (presumably) not advertising but rather non-notability. War and Peace is notable and worthy of an article, the short stories I wrote when I was six years old are not. Do you understand the distinction? -Elmer Clark 05:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help Desk horizon[edit]

At the Help Desk: how many days prior to today do you think should remain before being archived? The reason for this question is so that the parameters for the upcoming archiving bot can set. This is not a "forever" decision but our best guess for a starting point. My own review indicates that there are virtually no responses to a question posed more than three days ago and so accordingly, I've removed (archived) all but three days prior. In a perfect world, there would be a deeper horizon that we'all could just skim through or ignore or just start from the bottom of the page and go up from there. In the real world however, the folks with less than optimal bandwidth (say, dial-up) are burdened with unnecessarily long load times and so we need to compromise between the two. Please respond at this page's talk, I've only posted here to gather more user input. --hydnjo talk 22:51, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Vandalism[edit]

The page Pennsylvania has an info bar that reports state statistics, but the governer link and the one right below that are red, and hovering over the link reveals that they are suppose to go to the "Governer of Pennlkjjlkjlkjlkjhl;kjh;k" page or something similar. I can not seem to figure out how to undo this, so any help would be apreciated. 00:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, someone has already reverted that piece of vandalism. To find out how to do it next time, see Help:Reverting. --Kwekubo 01:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New page created today nowhere to be found[edit]

Hi, I created a page "Sleep and breathing" today. Spent a considerable amount of time on it. It is nowhere to be found now.

Please help.

--Rishi Raj, MD, FCCP, DABSM 03:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Per the deletion log (here), it was deleted by User:Adam Bishop. I'd suggest you ask him about it (politely), on his talk page at User talk:Adam Bishop. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Rick.

I have posted a querry on Adam's page as suggested. I am new to Wikipedia and am still getting used to the community. Please review the response and advise if it was appropriate.

Again, I am quite disappointed that a good part of my hard day's sincere work was deleted without giving me a chance to explain myself.

Can anyone delete anything? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rishirajmd (talk • contribs)

No, only admins can delete things. His deletion is odd, as it seems to fall outside of the deletion process. You might be able to make a case for undeletion at Wikipedia:Deletion review; however, it's better to reason with Adam first before going there. The deletion policy page which I linked to might help you convince him. You will also want to see WP:OR and WP:V before pursuing the creation of further articles. Good luck. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 05:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AFC has a nice wizard interface that guides you through the required pre-writing stage of an article. You don't need to use AFC itself to create the article, but it can't hurt to read the steps to see if you are following them. See also Your first article. - 131.211.210.14 11:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User page ideas[edit]

I'd like to update my user page to give it a nice layout in order to present pages of interest, etc. Are there any good examples around, or perhaps even a collection of pages I could choose from (and update as necessary)? CoolGuy 04:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hm... most people who've been here "awhile" tend to sink some time into their userpage, at some point or other. Try looking at userpages of the people responding to questions, here, or the pages linked at the list of administrators. Depending on what you're looking for, I'm of the opinion that User:Essjay is very intricately built; even if you don't go for the style, you can learn a lot just by seeing how the page is put together. If I remember correctly, there's a subpage at Esperanza about userpages. Good luck! Luna Santin 04:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Broken links[edit]

Why does this link Wikipedia_talk:Help_desk#Help_Desk_horizon not go to the specified section whereas this one Wikipedia:Help_desk#Help_Desk_horizon does? --hydnjo talk 04:35, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hrm, they both seem to work, for me. Given that, are you sure your browser isn't loading cached versions of the pages (which might not include the relevant section)? To double-check, you can force a full reload (shift or control plus reload, in most browsers). Beyond that, I'm not sure. Luna Santin 04:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Must be a browser (Safari) problem. When I invoke the first link (with a clean browser cache), Wikipedia_talk:Help_desk#Help_Desk_horizon, I get to the page but not the section but when I invoke the second link (same conditions), Wikipedia:Help_desk#Help_Desk_horizon, from elsewhere (or from here) I get to the page and section. Strange. Oh well, I'm sure it'll be clear to me tomorrow. --hydnjo talk 05:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a new page[edit]

how do i create a new page—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billygilman39 (talk • contribs) .

Please see Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#How do I create a new article?.--Fuhghettaboutit 05:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Talk template to warn on company edits[edit]

Was wondering if there were user:talk templates to do the following:
1. Warn a company editing an article about itself that this is against wikipedia autobiog policy.
2. Warn a company that is creating linkspam that this is against wikipedia autobiog policy.

Grateful for replies to my user:talk. Thanks --Saganaki- 07:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, #1 isn't against policy per se -- as WP:AUTO says, it's just recommended against, but I didn't see any particularly useful talkpage template for warning about that so I'd just write a little message to them. As for #2, looking on WP:TT I'd probably choose one of the {{spam}} templates, probably. Confusing Manifestation 11:14, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

book reviews[edit]

i want to search for book reviews.how can it be done 202.61.56.101 07:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia doesn't do book reviews (they'd violate the Neutral Point of View policy). Try asking at the Reference Desk if you want information on searching for reviews outside Wikipedia. --ais523 08:11, 16 October 2006 (U T C)

Wikipedia logo[edit]

Hi all! Can I use Image:Wikipedia-logo.png for internal purposes? Such as creating a banner for WikiProject Indonesia. I will have to edit the logo though (but not the inner design, just some shadows). Cheers -- Imoeng 08:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically, this may be the only nonfree (and non fair-use) graphic in the whole of Wikipedia. Click on the link in your post for details including ("requires permission"). Of course, it may be used under fair use terms in the same way that Wikipedia uses the logos of everyone else without permission, but in very specific contexts. Notinasnaid 08:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So just treat it as a fair use image right? So can I "put" it inside the banner or not? :P Cheers -- Imoeng 08:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot tell you whether you can legitimately treat it as fair use. What is your specific fair use justification for this case? (Bear in mind too that fair use in Wikipedia is forbidden except in articles (i.e. not in talk pages or templates). Notinasnaid 08:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

D'oh! So I can't use it then. I want to put the logo on the WP Indonesia project banner, and add it for our newsletters. Okay, thanks heaps for your help. Cheers -- Imoeng 08:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are actually plenty of images derived from the Wikipedia logo - Image:Admin mop.PNG (the administrator symbol) is one, as is the bureaucrat equivalent. According to the text on that page it was created with permission of the Board - so it's certainly possible to use it, you just have to get permission first. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 11:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to delete your user profile?[edit]

How do i delete my user profile?

Wanderlust Records 10:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, have a look at right to vanish. Addhoc 10:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In case you meant it to be your userpage – you can place a {{db-userreq}} template on the user space page which you want to be deleted. Make sure that you use it only on your userspace. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{L} 10:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Film[edit]

I am wanting to use Wikipedia in my short film that I am making. Just typing a topic into the search option and then filming what comes up. Do I need to get permission for this?222.155.190.60 10:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I expect that would be allowable under fair use. I'm not a lawyer, though, and if there's any serious money involved then you might be best off talking to one. --Cherry blossom tree 11:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why delete one article but not the other[edit]

Why is it that the ECOPAVE article page was deleted recently without having a proper opportunity to have it discussed in the same way as Eco-cemet did? Eco-cement article page is absolutely no different to EC0PAVE and if you read carefully one can observe the lack of hostility which is how it should be, so why were they dealt with differently?? Does this mean that Wikipedia follows its own guidelines when it comes to the deletion criteria, or is this a case of bias? EC0PAVE article apparently was sitting fine for 2 weeks when 3 admins out of 500 decided to ruthlesly attack it, see this link [25]144.137.45.71 10:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was deleted by community consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ecopave. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 11:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The community consensus was conducted between 3 hostile admins and anyway why is Eco-cement allowed to have their page or does this mean that the 3 admins had a vested interest to Eco-cement ?? Fact Finder 11:03, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was deleted by community consensus as spam. It doesn't matter whether you don't like the people who expressed that consensus, or what their opinions were, or why. Wikipedia does not exist to publicise your company. You can always query the deletion at Wikipedia:Deletion review - but you have little chance of success. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 11:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So, what youre saying is that it is existing to publicise Eco-cement then,Fact Finder 12:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC) Excuse me,[reply]

The request for deletion began by suggesting that the company did not meet the requirements in WP:CORP. These guidelines are created to keep this process fair, so they should guide you and me in deciding which articles are to keep. Are you suggesting that (a) your company does meet these requirements after all? (b) that the other company does not meet those requirements after all? Also, another reason the article was deleted was that there was a claim of copyright on it, which also isn't allowed in Wikipedia. Notinasnaid 11:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All I am saying is this, you cant have one rule for someone and another rule for someone else, Right!,What I know is that EC0PAVE does not want to be in Wikipedia after the way they were dealt with and also the question is about "ballance" and fairness. I believe that if eco-cement passes the Wikipedia guidelines in regards to "advertising" then so should EC0PAVE, what do you think? Fact Finder 12:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you refusing to answer a simple question, Why is Eco-cement allowed to "advertise" by having an article, Fact Finder 11:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because no-one has nominated it for deletion, that issue has never been addressed. If you don't think it should have an article then you nominate it by following the instructions at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. --Cherry blossom tree 11:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is very good advice. But be sure that any nomination is made by reference to specific Wikipedia policies, because claims of unfairness will, I can assure you, carry less weight than quoting policies. Please bear in mind your article was also deleted, according to what I read, because it claimed copyright, something that Wikipedia does not accept. Notinasnaid 11:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It has in fact had an AfD, as a quick glance at the talk page shows. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eco-cement. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 11:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. That'll teach me not to have a quick glance at the talk page before giving advice! In that case, the arguments given on that page are the reason why the article continues to exist. --Cherry blossom tree 11:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But according to wikipedia's own guidelines the eco_cement article is pure self gratification (Advertising)their article appears to be publicising,Fact Finder 12:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you do not think the article is advertisng then you are welcome to improve it, or to place a notice on it - see Wikipedia:Cleanup.--Cherry blossom tree 12:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who decided what this topic was going to be called, Oh! sorry I did since I started this article as Why delete one article but not the other" lol?? Fact Finder 12:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand you. The reasons for dleeting one article over another have been given at the links already provided--Cherry blossom tree 12:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I observe defamation and libel laws and what i know is that you cant say anyhing negative about someone or try to make anyone look bad in anyway or youre libel for damages. Eco-cement has an article in Wikipedia and is protected by free copyright! EC0PAVE does not!!, Fact Finder 12:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We have a policy against making legal threats. Even if we didn't, not having an article on your product does not constitute libel.--Cherry blossom tree 12:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No no no, Cherry Cherry!, I mean libel here and now, besides i wouldnt give a hoot since its not my article lol Fact Finder 12:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where do you think you have been libeled here and now? As far as I can see the discussion has not moved beyond the article in question. --Cherry blossom tree 12:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant Cherry, was that I dont want to be part of any possible libel action from anyone so i better watch what i said thats all Fact Finder 12:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC) I noticed Cherry youve done quite a number of articles in Wikipedia, how long have you been doing this?, Fact Finder 12:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you mean. I'm unsure how that's relevant, but my first edit was in August 2004. I started editing regularly about a year later. --Cherry blossom tree 12:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, how long before you were able to admin, Fact Finder 13:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an administrator. I've been doing some "administrative" tasks (like answering questions here) for maybe 9 months or so. --Cherry blossom tree 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, it can get abit hecktic sometimes I bet, where about from Australia are you from Cherry? Im from Sydney Fact Finder 13:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not from Australia, but I'm afraid this isn't really the place for chat. There are various IRC channels you can use, though - see Wikipedia:IRC channels. --Cherry blossom tree 13:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes, I see now, thanks for that, Fact Finder 13:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While we are on the subject of administrators, though, I observe that none of the three people who signed their names on the deletion discussion claim to be administrators. I don't know why you said that they are. Notinasnaid 15:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Notinasnaid, a good point this was overlooked completely what this could mean is that they had a vested interest to do what they did afterall?, Fact Finder.58.166.40.6 06:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC) Finlay,if I am the author of my words as above, then I should be able to edit my own words, Right Fact Finder 16:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So long as your edits don't make any other editors' replies to your words seem to make no sense after the fact. User:Zoe|(talk) 18:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing[edit]

Good day, I feel after browing this site for references on how to add material that the help areas are extremely confusing, there seems to be no simple guides.

Though I understand you need to obviously be careful of copyright infringement and also accuracy there simply is no basic user guides or help pages for the average user, like a step by step guide.

I have a lot of information which I would like to add to the website however I am at a loss due to this complex nature of the help pages.

Have I overlooked a step by step guide on how to addd content? All there seems to be is links to laws and regulations, which ofcourse is essential for the running of this site but nothing regarding basic guides. I found the amount of information overwhelming also Fact Finder 12:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hope to hear back soon

The Tutorial and Your first article may be helpful. --ais523 12:40, 16 October 2006 (U T C)

FF, I also find the Help system confusing. It's bloated and circular. And I've been editing Wikipedia for at least a year. --A bit iffy 23:41, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image upload redux[edit]

Please refer back to item 2.7 in this thread for the question, answer, and further question. Thanks.--Dumarest 12:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

for registeration[edit]

from where do i get the registration form on line,plz do attention on my request.

if possible plz send two forms for enterence exam.

(contact details removed to prevent spam)

You may have the wrong website. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. --ais523 12:40, 16 October 2006 (U T C)

Membership[edit]

hi how could i become a member in the wiki india project?.so that i could contribute some articles on tamil and malayalam literatures.

Fernando Sudhakar

You probably want to add your name here: Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Members, though you can contribute articles without doing that. --Cherry blossom tree 13:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright question[edit]

I have begun a Wikipedia article, and no-one else has yet contributed to it. Can I use the same text in an article for another publication? And if so, do I need to state that I got the text from Wikipedia? Many thanks. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 13:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. You can use any text that you have written however you please - you own the copyright so no attribution is required. --Cherry blossom tree 13:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sort of... you have, by editing, agreed to license your work under the GFDL, so you have to make your derivative work also under the GFDL and give yourself or Wikipedia attribution. -- Chris chat edits essays 14:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. The work is licenced under the GFDL but the author retains all the rights they had before they licenced it and so can use in any way they like (including non-free ways) and any derivative works do not have to be licenced under the GFDL. --Cherry blossom tree 14:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll echo what Cherry blossom tree has said. The original author retains copyright on the work. By contributing the material to Wikipedia, he has provided the material under a GFDL license under which GFDL-licensed derivative works may be created. However, as the original author retains his copyright, he may do whatever he pleases with the material, including creating his own derivative works under whatever license (if any) he sees fit. (Note that if any individuals have since edited the article in any substantive way, our first author would need the permission of those other authors to redistribute derivatives of their portions of the work.) TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

bugs in the index[edit]

Dear Wikipedia, There are several spots in the list of all articles where not all the columns come up, which means that the articles in those columns get cut off. The bugs that I've spotted so far are in 100, Ba, Ll, and Loose. Considering that new articles are added to Wikipedia all the time, why haven't these bugs been caught and fixed already?

Could you type the URL for us of a page in Wikipedia that shows this problem? Wikipedia is a big place, and I'm not sure where you mean. Notinasnaid 16:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=100&namespace=0 It looks like the glitch at Ba has been fixed already.

Ok, not entirely sure what you mean by "not all the columns come up". Where would I have to look to see that problem? Notinasnaid 16:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing the issue is that with a 3-column display when there are extremely long article names (like the redirect to googol at the link the user mentions) the columns aren't all visible without horizontal scrolling. I don't know of a browser that doesn't add a scroll bar in this case, so I don't think I'd call this a bug. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deletion[edit]

Hi,

I used this: db-userreq (with the brackets) to delete my userpage. But what i really want is to delete my account, so this user account doesnt exist anymore and subsequently removed from the google rankings.

Thanks for you help.

Wanderlust Records 17:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Accounts can't be deleted, but if the userpage and talkpage have gone, it's likely that Google won't pick them up after a few days (page histories aren't Google-cached). --ais523 17:09, 16 October 2006 (U T C)

If you don't want "Wanderlust Records" to be associated with your account, you could change the account name to "Deleted Account" or similar. Addhoc

Mood Ring.[edit]

Oct 16, 2006

To; Wikipedia Personnel Help Desk,

I have added a few more links to the Mood Ring Web-Page that I thought would be helpful. Would appreciate feed-back if these are OK and if I have edited correctly.

I can be E-mailed at: EMAIL REMOVED

Thank you for your time.

Signed, Dawn

Those links were removed because they were ads. Please use the preview function in the future - I count 20 separate edits, which clogs up the page history. Wooty 19:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oct 16, 2006

To; The Individual Who Calls Theirselves- Wooty,

Thank you for timely response and I apologize for editing a little too much- it was my first time. I will try to be more careful in editing in the future. Would the Virtual Online Mood Ring really be considered an ad, when it is there more for entertainment rather than to sell something? - and I had included that as an example (through the link) of the many incarnations beyond the original invention of the Mood Ring.

Thank you again, for your time.

Signed, Dawn

The external links in an article are supposed to provide further information on the subject, and in general only the links which support the information in the article are particularly useful. I would suggest reading the policy on external links, and if you still believe the links do add to the article then it's probably best to discuss them on the article's talk page (go to the article and click the tab marked "discussion"). Confusing Manifestation 02:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Knox Roman Numerals[edit]

I don't know how much prior days are rechecked. At Seymour Knox I posted the reaalization that I am at fault for improper naming convention. Can you help? TonyTheTiger 18:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just figured out how to use the move button on a non controversial move. TonyTheTiger 20:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete My Account[edit]

I would like to know how to delete my account. I was unable to place any information in it because the links don't work.

The account name is: Bpabraxton

I would like to place some information in Wikipedia but can't with links that don't work. I don't understand how everyone has been able to input information into the site. If there is a way to fix the links and keep the account name, that's fine with me.

Please respond to: Celestine Gray <email removed>

Thanks!!

Hi - I've removed your email address from this page, as it can make you a great target for spam-bots, who might crawl this page for email address, and them send all manner of rubbish to you. As for your problem, do you get a specific error/anytihng that happens when trying to edit? M a rtinp23 20:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New message? Article[edit]

When I signed in, I was greeted by the amber thing that said I have a new message. But when I looked at it, I didn't see any new messages. What's the problem?

Also,my article on the hockey owner George Kennedy (sports promoter) was taken down, despite the fact I finally listed my source for the article---Deceptions and Doublecross: How the NHL Conquered Hockeyby Morey Holzman and Joseph Nieforth. Maybe you can explain why. Corey Bryant 20:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk to the admin who deleted the article:User talk:Premeditated Chaos 203.109.204.17 08:52, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Menu boxes on userpages[edit]

How can I create a menu box for my user and sub-userpages such as the one seen here? --teh tennisman ^{Speak your piece!}_{People person!}_{FREE STUFF CLICK HERE} 20:39, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's some information on user subpages at WP:USER, but in a nutshell, User:Luna Santin/Userboxes is a subpage of User:Luna Santin; to transclude it onto a page, I'd add {{User:Luna Santin/Userboxes}} or just {{/Userboxes}}. Tables are at WP:TABLE -- if you have experience with HTML tables, wikitables should make sense pretty easily. Luna Santin 21:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Articles Titles[edit]

Does the entire title of an article have to be capitalized? For example: Should List of Pokémon items be List of Pokémon Items?

Tennis Dynamite 20:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TD, no, not in Wikipedia - it's the "house style". See section 1.1 in Wikipedia:Naming_conventions. --A bit iffy 21:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Tennis Dynamite 21:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Questions[edit]

1. I'm interested in editing a page that pertains to my company. This page was set up by another user. I removed some items that I felt used some negative wording. This user then put them back in there. I need some advice please, is there somebody I can actually talk to?

2. Our company name does not appear correctly in the title of the article - do I have the right to change that?

3. What about linking this page to one I set up, can I do that?

Thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Helenwells (talk • contribs) 07:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

You have the 'right' to change what you like, but note that all changes should be sourced, and all controversial changes should be discussed on the talk page (click on 'discussion' at the top of the page in question). If you want to talk about it, that's one place to start. Another is to contact the user directly; if you look in the page history (click on 'history' at the top of the page in question) you can see who replaced the information and send them a message on their own talk page. You can move a page by clicking on 'move' at the top, but it's always a good idea to discuss this first as there may be a reason why it's at the current name.

Regarding your content dispute in this particular case, however, I'd suggest you first take a look at WP:NPOV. Wikipedia strives to present all sides, and unless you have a valid reason for removing negative information people are likely to keep adding it. This is an encyclopedia, not a tool for corporate propaganda, and you'll note that companies such as McDonald's, Starbucks, and Dow Chemical Company all have sections on criticisms. Ziggurat 21:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Second question replied on user's talk page. Confusing Manifestation 02:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stickam[edit]

I created an article on Stickam. I created it in good faith, but it got speedy-deleted as being "blatant advertising". Is it possible to find out who deleted it so that I can communicate with them to find out why it was deleted without taking notice of the {{hangon}} tag I put on it? Unfortunately, I cannot look at the article's history because, of course, the article's been wiped! (The Talk page is still there, though, at Talk:Stickam. Thanks in advance, --A bit iffy 21:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check out the deletion log. The fact that the article has been created and deleted before is probably what made Bogdangiusca quick on the trigger. You should talk with him. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 21:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Meni. --A bit iffy 21:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 22:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A bit of a problem[edit]

How doother people like the Welcome Group welcome me and talk to me and such?

Hint taken - I've left you a welcome note. Addhoc 21:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Once again..how do I view it?

You can view your personal messages at User talk:King Pong, or by clicking "my talk" at the very top of each page. McMillin24 _contribs^talk 21:59, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

arthritis joint pain[edit]

What medication is suitable to relieve arthritis joint pain in a person with bi-lateral kidney disease with a 35% kidney function?71.53.8.87 22:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC) Martin[reply]

Wikipedia is not for medical advice. That being said, you might find better help elsewhere, such as the Reference Desk, as this Help Desk is specifically for questions concerning the use of Wikipedia. —K e akealani 22:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regitration issues[edit]

I can't register.. My name is Howard H. Levine and e-mail address is <somespambestoppedhere>. What to do? Advise. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.238.101 (talk • contribs)

Exactly what has gone wrong? Did you click the "Login / Create account" link at the top and follow through with it? Did it show an error or something? -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:39, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

adding an English idiom[edit]

i wanted to add an idiom to the English idiom page but there is no opportunity to do so. how can i accomplish this?

By going to List of idioms in the English language, clicking 'edit this page' at the top of the page, and typing in your idiom, using the same format as the idioms already listed. --Kwekubo 23:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

U.K. 1939 population, census results[edit]

I would like to find out the 1939 United Kingdom population. I can not get past thw chasing my tail dilemma at your site.

I can be contacted at [spamproof]

Thank you for time, attention and patience.

William Howes

There was no 1939 census, and the 1941 one was called off because of the war; detailed statistical data is understandably hard to come by, because people were somewhat preoccupied at the time.

However, I have a 1942 source which gives an estimate for mid-1938 of 41,215,000 people in England and Wales and 4,993,000 in Scotland, and a "1937 census" figure for Northern Ireland of 1,280,000. The Channel Islands come to about 90-100,000, and the Isle of Man to a further 50,000. Shimgray | talk | 23:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Backlogs[edit]

Do articles that have a cleanup tag, as well as an uncitable source tag qualify as backlog? --Imdanumber1 ( Talk | contribs) 23:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, a backlog is the name given to a particular administrative page that list multiple hundreds of entries and thus needs extensive work to get cleaned up. Usually the things that were tagged the way you mentioned are easily fixed by either adding or formatting content or find sources to add. Backlogs require much, much more work. Generally, you don't want to add yet another tag to the article. By the way, uncited is not the same as uncitable. uncited is that it doesn't have sources, uncitable is that it cannot have sources. Anything that cannot have sources at all (even if the internet, books, magazines, newspapers, etc have all been searched for info) is unverifiable and not suitable to be included to begin with. Make sure you understand the difference between those two words. - - 131.211.210.14 08:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help Please[edit]

I am trying to get Hinduism to run for WP:FAC and I have already moved the first unsuccessfull run to Featured artilce canidates|Hinduism/archive1, but I am having a hard time setting up the new one. Please help ASCAP--Sea dog .M.S 00:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trouble categorizing request for article on NXIVM/Executive Success Program[edit]

I'd like to request an article on Keith Raniere's organization, NXIVM, formerly Executive Success Program. There are many indications that it is a cult and I'd like to know more about it.

You can request an article at Articles for Creation, or alternately you can Create an account...there are many additional benefits that an account can offer, so I would strongly suggest it. —K e akealani 03:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Entering my opinion on deleting an entry[edit]

An entry called "List of clichés in music" is marked for deletion. I would like to enter my opinion but don't know where or how.

Please advise.

JerryFlattum

The deletion notice has the following line: "Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page"; if you click on the 'this article's entry' part you'll go straight to the deletion discussion. Ziggurat 02:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

regions[edit]

just wondering what the regions are catergorised as in the release dates for dvds. 04:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

This help desk is for questions about how to work on things in the Wikipedia. For factual questions outside the scope of the workings of Wikipedia, see the Reference Desk in the future. For now though, your answer should be at DVD. Dismas|^(talk) 06:29, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Search problem[edit]

I am editing a page on "Hay, New South Wales". The commonly used abbreviation for New South Wales is NSW. If I search for "hay" it goes straight to a page on hay (the stuff horses eat). If I search on "hay nsw" I get various things relating to the town Hay, but not the major page of "Hay, New South Wales" (which should be top of the list). I suspect I should be using a "re-direct", but I'm not sure. What do I do? ikeshut

The search feature isn't very good at approximate matches unless helped by humans. You're correct that a redirect would probably be useful; if you edit Hay, NSW (without the comma the page is likely to be deleted) and place

#REDIRECT [[Hay, New South Wales]]

on it, you will create a redirect that you or anyone else can use to reach the page. --ais523 07:47, 17 October 2006 (U T C)

Type / Font conflict?[edit]

Dear Wikipedias,

I'm on a Mac / System OSX (in case it's relevant).

Every page on my setup is littered with links or italics which, due to some typograhic abberation, appear as complete gibberish - though some, if they are in blue, can be highlighted by hovering over them with a mouse, and in the highlight one can read the actual meaning of the 'gibberish' (so it wasn't Slav after all, phew!) ...

Is there any way I can get round or correct this? It's been a problem for several months at least. can't remember if my old Mac with OS 9.2.2 had the same problem - but that had issues of its own!

As ever, thank you for your sterling efforts.

Best Wishes

Jean-Luke Epstein

You may have better luck if you switch to a different skin. Here are two simple skins: Myskin (which has no special coding at all) and Simple. If either of those works you may want to go to your preferences (Special:Preferences) and change skin. Otherwise, report it at the technical village pump to bring your message to the attention of people who know more about such things. --ais523 07:45, 17 October 2006 (U T C)

username change[edit]

How do i go about changing my username?

Wanderlust Records 09:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, sorry for not saying, the link is: WP:CHANGE. Addhoc 09:53, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to use a Wikimedia Commons image in Wikipedia[edit]

I am trying to enter Image:Riazor Stadium from the commons into the Riazor Stadium article, but can't figure out how.

You insert an image on Commons the same way you insert an image from Wikipedia: write [[Image:Riazor Stadium.jpg]] in the appropriate place on the page (the file extension (in this case .jpg) is important). There is explanation about more complicated formatting on Help:Image. --ais523 10:12, 17 October 2006 (U T C)

Finding the root of a word[edit]

what can do with your website to find the root word for justice

If you're interested in the meanings of words and etymologies, you may find more help at Wikipedia's sister project Wiktionary; wikt:justice has a small amount of information on its etymology. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; Wiktionary is a dictionary, and therefore more suited to dealing with words. --ais523 10:27, 17 October 2006 (U T C)

total deletion of article[edit]

Someone has totally deleted our article regarding the Diagonal Lock and has replaced it with a different item, the 2 items are not related and I cannot understand why our item has been deleted. How can we get it back on? or find out who deleted it and why?

thanks in anticipation

(email removed to prevent spam)

I can't find the article you're referring to. If you know the exact name, you can check the deletion log and enter the exact name you're looking for in the 'Title' field; this will tell you who deleted it and why. For further information, you should contact the admin who deleted it on their User Talk page. --ais523 11:59, 17 October 2006 (U T C)

Subscripts and other characters[edit]

Hey! I was wondering where can I get information on writting the little subscripts and super scripts (ex. squared, cubed, or the numbers in chemical formula reactions). Thanks! Or do I just have to memorize them? --Agester 12:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are several methods. One is to use the box of symbols below the edit box (for instance, this: 3² was entered like that); it looks best in the edit window, but it only works for some superscripts. Another is to use and tags: for instance, 3²+a_x, which cannot stack superscripts and subscripts. Another is to use mathematical markup, such as

a_{x}^{2}

, which is fully general (and therefore has to be sent as images sometimes, like in the example shown there); avoid except for mathematical equations and when you really need to. --ais523 13:08, 17 October 2006 (U T C)

Internet Explorer will not open wikipedia[edit]

When using Mozilla, wikipedia works fine, but it will not work through Internet Explorer. The word done appears in the bottom left corner, but nothing appears on the screen. 165.139.41.20 13:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)cjones[reply]

All versions of Internet Explorer are somewhat broken. Microsoft simply refuses to follow W3C standards. Wikipedia is a fairly sophisticated XHTML site; it displays okay in some versions of IE and breaks badly in others. My personal feeling is that it's a waste of time to cater to IE.

You've got Mozilla; why not use it? John Reid 14:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images not appearing[edit]

Please have a look at the Monkton Combe article. I put a picture on this article yesterday, but it shows a red cross in the frame and no picture. If I click on the picture, the enlarged version shows completely normally so I know the picture is on the server. CTRL-F5 makes no difference. Is there a temporary fault on WP? Thanks - Adrian Pingstone 15:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Subst'ed?[edit]

Someone posted this to my user page: "Just FYI, this template isn't supposed to be subst'ed." in reference to a copyvio template. Where can I look to find a plain English translation? I'm scratching my head over this. Kathy A. 13:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This means you should not add {{copyvio}} to a page, but {{subst:copyvio}}. The difference is the first version leaves exactly what you added while the second version leaves the expanded version of the template. Templates that should be "subst'd" should be so indicated in their usage notes (on the template itself or its talk page). -- Rick Block (talk) 13:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it sounds like the comment you received is the opposite of what is described above. The poster wants you to use {{templatename}}, not {{subst:templatename}}. dpotter 14:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Template substitution also provides an enumeration of those templates that should almost always be substituted and those that should almost never be substituted; {{copyvio}}, FWIW, is, as your talk page interlocutor observes, of the latter set (consistent with Dpotter's conclusion), principally because a substitution produces "far too much wikicode" and because "a bot relies upon it to populate WP:CP with unlisted articles". Joe 16:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both very much -- now I know what was meant, and where to look for more info!

sub sub section link[edit]

I am having trouble linking to a sub sub section on the Chris Young (baseball starting pitcher) page. There are two Game3 sub sections in the 2006 National League Division Series page. I want to link to the second.TonyTheTiger 22:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the link to the second subsection. 2006 National League Division Series#Game 3, October 7 2. Notice, the 2 at the end to differentiate between the two sections -- Lost^(talk) 03:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ThanksTonyTheTiger 14:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image upload[edit]

The following is an e-mail I just received. I have succeeded in gettting permission to use the John Kendrew image in Wikipedia, I gather full permission, but the image has to be low resolution. How do I handle and tag this??

"I have, through various discussions with people here, been able to get approval for you to use the image of John Kendrew on your Wikipedia entry. As you know this is not the sort of approval we normally give, but it was felt that we could in this case. However, we are only prepared to let you have a low resolution image, which is of good enough quality for web pages and people's own use, but if people require a higher resolution copy for publishing or commerical use, they could then get in touch with us. If this is OK then please use the image and credit it to MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology. ANNETTE FAUX Archivist " --Dumarest 13:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Simply shrink the image in a free image editing program, such as the GIMP. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 13:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The image, sent from MRC, is already in the form indicated. The question is what image template/tag should I use in uploading it?? And how to validate that MRC has released it but I am the uploader, and there are conditions [size] but otherwise a released image??

You have to be careful with image permission; permission for Wikipedia only isn't accepted. You should make sure you know what licence is given by the licence holder. If they've said 'fine for any use but it must be reduced size', you can use {{CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat|the image is low-resolution}}; but make sure they have said that! You should send a copy of the request and the response to permissions AT wikimedia DOT org, where Wikipedians can confirm independently that the permission is correct. --ais523 12:31, 16 October 2006 (U T C)

informations[edit]

how can i add my username to a wikipedia-project ? or join the participants list ? Yunis79 14:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the list is a list on the page and not a category, you simply edit it and add in your name. If the list is a category, put your userpage in the category by adding the category code to your userpage. See my userpage for an example: I'm part of WikiProject Anime and Manga. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 16:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

floods[edit]

how do you get a good page about floods?

You type "Flood" into the box at the left and click Go. Notinasnaid 15:11, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, but the question was about how to get a "good page" about floods. In which case, the procedure is to type "flood" into the search box and click Go, then click on Edit, cleaning the text up and finding reliable sources for its claims, at which point you can nominate it as a good article. And voila, you're done! Confusing Manifestation 02:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Largest College Campus by Acreage[edit]

I am trying to find out the largest College Campus by acreage only... Berry College in Mount Berry, Ga. (Near Rome, Ga.) has 28,000 acres. Are there any bigger?

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --MCB 17:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirection[edit]

I was writing a new article the other day and I was wondering how to make title redirection. For instance, if type in "Arthur Wellesley" into the search, it will redirect me immediately to the article on Arthru Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington. Thank you.

You can try this yourself by looking going to the "Arthur Wellesley" article. At the top you will see Redirected from... Arthur Wellesley. This isn't a silly circular link, as it might seem: click on it to visit the redirect page, and then click Edit to see the magic. Notinasnaid 15:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

treatment for cardiac problems[edit]

I would like to know the name of the Irish physician who treated heart disease successfully with his secret 'heart formula' which was revealed to be tincture of hawthorn after his death in the 1890's.

Perhaps you are looking for the reference desk? — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 17:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To elaborate on Dark Shikari's answer, this help desk answers queries related to wikipedia only. To know anything else you can try asking the reference desk under the appropriate section -- Lost^(talk) 14:06, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rogue employee changing company information[edit]

We have an ex-employee that inserts his personal information in our company biography. We don't know what to do and feel a little helpless. What measures can be taken to handle this?

You can request that the article be Semi-protected if the employee is using an IP or sockpuppets to edit the article. If he's using a single main account, you can report it to an administrator. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 19:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

W. O. Larsen, Danish pipemaker[edit]

How do I find the date of death for Ole Larsen, famous pipemaker of Copenhagen? Thanks very much. """"

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --MCB 17:32, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strange watchlist behaviour[edit]

I have had the page 1 Ceres on my watchlist for some time, but it's just today been moved to Ceres (dwarf planet). Now both these pages are appearing on the alphabetic watchlist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist/edit) but neither of them are appearing anywhere on the watchlist itself, not for the move itself or the most recent other change. Is this a known problem with page moves? Cheers — SteveRwanda 18:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reporting Vandalism[edit]

I'm a very occasional Wikipedia reader who noticed that an entry has been vandalized (Olaf_II_of_Norway): is there a simple means for uneducated outsiders to flag this, or does one have to go about creating an account and learning wikipedia protocols etc. to handle it?

I looked over the wikipedia vandalism entry -- it's daunting to a neophyte. Is the best thing to just assume that someone who knows what they're doing will spot the problem and fix it pretty quickly?

207.168.235.190 18:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All you have to do is revert the article. Go to the history, find the last non-vandalized entry, open it, click edit, and save. Use "rvv vandalism" or a similarly useful edit summary to show that you have reverted it. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 19:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to revert to a previous version of a page may also be of some help. --S-Ranger 21:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

who started wikipedia?[edit]

who founded wikipedia and when?

See Wikipedia entry :) Equendil Talk 19:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Antwan Jones[edit]

Hello -

I recently submitted an article for Antwan Jones. I checked today to see the status (It was created Oct. 10) but it is nowhere to be found. Please help!

Micheal Kutner

Your article can still be found here: Wikipedia:Articles for creation/2006-10-12#Antwan Jones. No-one accepted (or rejected) the request, possibly because the subject does not appear to meet the criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (academics). If you disagree you are welcome to create an account (at Special:Userlogin) and post it yourself, though it may be deleted. --Cherry blossom tree 22:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

metals[edit]

how do the properties determine the uses for diffrent metals.

Umm, it depends? This sounds a lot like a homework question. You havn't even told us if there's any properties in particular that you're interested in. I mean, there's electrical and heat conductivity, malleability, radioactive stability, density, colour, lustre, and on and on. You could fill a book with the possible answers to this question. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It does sound like a homework question. Knowledge based questions should be asked at the reference desk, but this is probably too general. You should read metal (and articles linked from there) and articles on specific metals (copper, zinc, iron and so on) and if you have a more specific question, try the reference desk. --Cherry blossom tree 22:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Santa Fe Depot[edit]

I erred and can't figure out how to fix it. I was attempting to link the List of Registered Historic Places in San Diego County, California listing of "Santa Fe Depot", which had no article link, to its proper article Union Station (San Diego). Instead of making the html link "[Union Station (San Diego)|Santa Fe Depot]" (outside brackets not shown), I made a redirect of Santa Fe Depot which I'm now positive was the wrong proceedure as the simple title "Santa Fe Depot" likley should go to a disambiguation page.

I've since corrected the "Santa Fe Depot" link at List of Registered Historic Places in San Diego County, California, but now I can't delete Santa Fe Depot or redirect it anywhere. Can somebody in the know fix this? Thanks. --Marriedtofilm 02:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I did the same thing to Topeka Atchison and Santa Fe Railroad Station. Now it wont redirect to Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway as I've assigned it to. --Marriedtofilm 02:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to redirect properly here. Did you try clearing your browser's cache? — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 02:46, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I feel a little embarrassed now. Topeka Atchison and Santa Fe Railroad Station now appears to properly redirect. Can't explain why it didn't work properly for several minutes. But I guess the issue is "Santa Fe Depot" (now redirecting to Union Station (San Diego)) seems like a search term as there could be many Santa Fe Depots and it probably should be deleted. I don't know how to do that. --Marriedtofilm 02:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just broke the Santa Fe Depot redirect for you. Now it won't redirect, and you can go edit it. In the future, when you get redirected, it says "redirected from XXXXXXXX" on the top of the article. If you click on the XXXXXXXXX (whatever the redirect's name was), it'll send you back to the redirect so you can edit it. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 12:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Subscription to the Post?[edit]

Hello everybody. I would just like to ask how you subscribe to the Wikipedia Signpost. I signed up using my other account called Chili14, but I forgot how to do it and I don't want to redirect it all to my talk page because I don't know if it will screw up the bot. If anybody knows how or can refer me to another place, please do so. Thank you very much and please have a nice day.--Ch ili fix 04:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC) P.S Go to my userpage for an update on Chili14.[reply]

To receive a weekly message with the full Signpost masthead, you may place User talk:Chilifix at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Tools/Spamlist; should you prefer a single Signpost box to be updated each week, you may place one of the subscription templates on your user or talk page. Hope that helps... Joe 04:47, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that did help alot!--Ch ili fix 05:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Search problem[edit]

Good day! I created an article Nuestra Señora del Buen Suceso, but when I search it using the Search button, there are no matches. What's wrong with my article?

Thanks, User:Mark j

See Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#An article doesn't show up in the search. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 11:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question on new article[edit]

I have just created a new article and saved it but when I then put the article title in the search box it doesn't find it. Please help. Newworldtapestry 10:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#An article doesn't show up in the search. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 11:03, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks but how long do you typically have to wait? Newworldtapestry 11:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A lot. Usually it's several weeks at least. In any case, this article (The New World Tapestry) isn't in a very good state, and I'm not sure the subject is notable enough. Hopefully others with more knowledge in the field will look into it, and help improve it if it is kept. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. You say it's not in a very good state - do you mean actual content of it or the format/layout. Sorry but I'm new to all this Newworldtapestry 13:35, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly the layout. I can't really comment about the content since I am not knowledgeable about art and have no experience with art-related Wikipedia articles. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 14:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Supress interwiki link[edit]

Hello.
French contributor to WP-FR (french), I'd like to delete the [[fr:SuperCard]] interwiki link in the SuperCard article because it's not the same thing. But I'm blocked with a "anti-spam" blocking from WP. Anyone can delete this interwiki link please ?
Thanks a lot :)
Draky 10:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed it. The problem was that the article had a link to the blacklisted URL http://supercard.netfirms.com/, and wouldn't accept any edit which keeps it. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:12, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot :) Draky 13:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HAVING AN ACCOUNT[edit]

COULD YOU PLEASE HOW DO WE GO ABOUT GETTING A VISA ACOOUNT FOR OUR INSTITUTION?

This is Wikipedia, a free encyclopedia and this help desk is for answering questions about how to use Wikipedia. Knowledge questions are asked at the References desk, but I'm not sure that anyone can help you other than noting that it's hard to imagine any institution easier to look up than Visa who offer sign up and advertize their contact information all over the internet and in businesses in many stores all over the world. Try Clicking here.--Fuhghettaboutit 11:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lost page.[edit]

I have just created and saved a page titled "Police Rugby League (Victoria)". After saving, I can not find it again, please help.

Thanks,

Barry Randall <removed email for security reasons>

You'll find it here. However, I have tagged it for speedy deletion, as it falls under CSD/A7: an article about a club that doesn't reach notability standards, such as having multiple news articles and/or other types of secondary sources about it. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 12:39, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]