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September 24[edit]

hi[edit]

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just want to use wiki because i like to know about fictional people that is why I want to use it for —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.179.218 (talkcontribs) 02:23, 24 September 2009

Welcome you are. --AndrewHowse (talk) 03:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
anyone want to edit the grammatical errors, or should it just be left alone? - Ennybey (talk) 04:34, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It should be left alone. (It is pretty lucid compared with a lot of post here.) —teb728 t c 05:34, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AncientPages[edit]

Why doesn't the Ancient Pages page work past the first 1000 articles? Jc iindyysgvxc (talk) 02:39, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because, I guess, the underlying data set only includes 1000 articles. It's not clear that the list is current either; WP:DUSTY might be more recently updated (although it only shows 100 pages). --AndrewHowse (talk) 03:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is because in the early days of Wikipedia, we did not have such sophisticated features as stable page histories. (I was not around back then, I read it in the Wikipedia namespace) Intelligentsium 21:41, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

publishing dates[edit]

how do i find the publishing dates of an article

The most recent revision date will be found under the "history" tab at the top of the article; but of course, that will change whenever the article is edited next. Do you perhaps need a link to the article on "How to Cite a Wikipedia Article"? --Orange Mike | Talk 02:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HELP[edit]

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just signed up for wikipedia and I made a page for Will Hurd, potential candidate for Congress. but it was deleted, speedily. What in the heck? Someone please help.

Will Hurd has not yet been deleted. Please go to that page and follow the instructions in the large box.
 —  .`^) Paine Ellsworthdiss`cuss (^`.  04:03, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You need to find signifigant coverage from independent sources that verify notability. You need to read (reread) the folloing guidelines at:
  • Notability: Wikipedia:Notability (people) "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." WP:POLITICIAN is also on the page: "People who have held international, national or first-level sub-national political office, including members of a legislature..." and "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of 'significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article.'"
  • Interst based: WP:PROMOTION (not promotion or soapbox or the candidtate) and WP:CONFLICT (although not directly prohibitied, your editing is discouraged and frowned upon by the community if you are associated with the subject). "You can visit Will's website at Texans for Hurd to stay updated on events and fundraisers." is a big problem.
  • Sources (signifigant coverage}: WP:SOURCES (you need to find sources to verify what you are saying in the article as well as assserting notability of the subject. I porefer google news searches. ":. No matter where his travels have taken him, Texas has always been home and he could not be happier to be back." is a problem.Cptnono (talk) 05:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Follow-up: I just blanked (not deleted) the article since it is an exact copy of the website. Copyright concerns are also a problem.Cptnono (talk) 05:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Old Debate[edit]

Articles that are suppose to be deleted are debated for 7 days, and then they are suppose to be deleted. How do you get the article to be deleted if the debate started almost two weeks ago? ---Shadow (talk) 04:47, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well if consensus have been reached to delete, you may contact any admin to do so Template:Scarce signature 04:54, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image blink[edit]

Is there something I can use to make an image blink? Like an image version of this? ©Ξ 05:43, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can animate it. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 06:40, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
For some examples, see Commons:Category:Animated GIF. --Teratornis (talk) 21:27, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Page move help[edit]

Can someone help me to move back SquashSquash (disambiguation) and Squash (sport)Squash. A user recently moved it without proper discussion and without citing concrete reason. Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 07:53, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, if one were to simply revert the moves that would be walking into an edit war, instead disscuss your concerns with the users involved. Bear in mind that the pages were actually moved by Grutness without disscussion in January 2009, and Commander Keane and Tatterfly were actually reverting his change. I suggest you contact Grutness, Commander Keane and Tatterfly and start a disscussion at Talk:Squash with them. Do not launch into an edit war, kind regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 09:00, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Port[edit]

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 – Referred to Ref Desk. – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to know if there is a shipping line to Port Rashid to Potti Georgia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.21.216.161 (talkcontribs) 08:49, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. —teb728 t c 09:03, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

chellame[edit]

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 – Referred to Ref Desk. – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
storyline

storyline
chellame(episode 1-8)

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episode 1
shown the entire cast in a temple...it is a sivan temple n they show one cast after one in a slow motion...then chellamah(radhika) will go n call thavasi(delhi ganesh)who shown cooking for annathanam n he will be quarring with a guy for charge extra for coconut which they order...then chellamah will call him saying everyone waiting for him it is archanai time..then they show delhi ganesh as a stingy guy when he will only give 100 rupees for the iyer n say dunt ask darchana from every1 in the family then the iyer will show a huge amount of money already paid by chellamah father... delhi ganesh is chellammah father's close buddy n he will scold his fren dunt spent money like water..then he will tell god will take care of us..then the next scene is when the iyer or chief priest will come n tie the scarf in the head(a kinda of respect for the man of the family)afta that they will show chellamah dad will tell the next generation should take over this n everyone is a kinda shock...n then all will say put for radha ravi as the elder son then radha ravi will tell put for the son-in-law(chellamah husband who is played by a young guy)then he will get that..the nect scene when every will get 100 rupees from chellamah father n get blessing from him which they do every year..the episode ends when chellamah sista who cries coz every1 will come wit their partner but onli she will end up with no husband..then chellamah will console her tellin her husband who run away will come bck n they end it with thavasi tellin the same thing..

episode 2
they will show all the couples talkin about the 100 rupees they get from their dad...then the next scene where chellamah with her husband with all the kids in a fun fair..then chellamah fren will ask her which one is your child...both husband n wife will keep tellin this is my sista child,my bro child then her fren will ask k but which is ur child..both husband n wife will tell we are child for each other...then they show chellamah n her gang going bck to temple her fren n fren husband will tel look at them our they cover sayin they dunt have child then her fren will tell though she hapi outside deep inside she is sad...the next scene is they puttin anathaanam n her they also reveal that they have chain of restaurant by the name hotel chellamah...the next scene they show chellamah puttin food for beggars n she come across with a suspicous beggars...then when they give archanai the same suspcious beggar will come n chellamah will ask him to stop runnin..they ends it will she chase him

episode 3
it is revealed the beggars is chellamah husband brother who run away n her sista husband..then they wil show they cut his hair n shave n reveal a good lookin guy..then the next scene is chellamah mother in law house which is her fathers sista hse n they show some flashback...then they will show all guys playin cards then they will end it show them arguing n the driver basha will go n backfire to chellamah...

episode 4
the driver will tell chellamah give some money ur husband askin then she will give 1000 ruppes..then the driver will ask never ask for what i ask the money when he reveal for playin cards she will give him more money then the driver will tell u r spoilin them they goin to fight n kill each other...chellamah smile n he goes away...later the will show all of them play the money in order for the driver to take the money...then the driver will tell chellamah sorry for suspectin such a nice ppl..the next scene the will show chellamah sendin her sista to go n sleep with her husband i.e. start ur new life....afta that they will show those sista law teasing her n she cry then they will tell we disturbin u go n start ur new life...they will show her enterin the room n it ends here..


episode 5
they will show both husband n wife like goin to start new life like that but suddenly they will show the gal sleepin down..then she will tell her husband u left me n went n i was cryin all the time so this is a kinda punishment it is between both of us onli let them think we are hapi especially chellamah akka..the next scene is chellamah makin every1 to go to bed n sleep n 2 youth in her house back home drunk she make them to eat n tell them nothin wrong it is a kinda a comedy scence..then they end it in a very interestin scene where chellamah dad n his sista goin n see one guy in their village i.e. sammiyar n he every year tell kurri for the family this time some bad sign is shown but the guy will lie to them the end the episode by showin the samiyar askin his wife to throw the money to temple unduli n throw is oduchudi in the fire coz he lied that chellamah family will do well like every year but the actually true is the family goin to destory one by one..


episode 6
they show the whole family goin bck to chennai..they show 2 children fightin over a gift box which fall from the staircase n broken...then it is revealed that god statues..then they show the boy mother wackin then chellamah stop sayin small kid onli what we can order more statue..then that time chellamah sista will tell outsider item then chellamah sista in law will get angry n shout bck how u dare sayin we are outside then they will show chellamah father askin chellamah sista to go n stand in the kuthuvilakka which the family tradition to tell sorry to every1...then they show all get back together n laughin each other..the followin scene they will show chellamah headin to head office with driver basha..in head office she see her husband brother doin hard work n her sista husband just lottering..then she will ask him why u doin all this n not in the cash counter..it end will chellamah lookin at her husband brother..


episode 7
the will shoe chellamah putting him bck in that department..the next scene the will show radha ravi wife bring her gal to the hse n tell to chellamah mother in law that this gal from our village n want to work in our restaurant n today it is the interview day n will ask recommendement letter then she also will give after that they will show she goin for the interview then when thavasi see the recommend letter he will tear n say no work for u go out..then they will show radha ravi wife complainin to chellamah mother in law this must be chellamah work that she never appoint this gal just coz i sent here..then chellamah mother in law will tell dunt rush to any conclusion..then they will show chellamah her husband n delhi ganesh each other

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Shastidaran (talkcontribs) 09:47, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 10:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eliminating leading/trailing spaces[edit]

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a function in Wikipedia that trims leading/trailing spaces? For example, if a template is entered as {{template| argument one }}, I'd like the add a function to the code so that {{{1}}} can be changed from " argument one " to "argument one". This is an important distinction for use of parameters in URLs. Thank you. —Zach425 talk/contribs 09:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We have a template to do this— oddly enough it is called {{StripWhitespace}}. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 10:19, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Header 1 title changes[edit]

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

the title has a slight typo in it: reads Meli Melo Artist Alliance, should be Meli Melo Artists Alliance. can you tell me how to rectify this error? Artjamming (talk) 10:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. There should be an option on the top of the page named "Move". You have to click on that and move the page to another title. ƒ(Δ)² 11:06, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Collapsed template[edit]

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone make the only template on this page collapsed ? Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 11:58, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 12:37, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks mate ! Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 17:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding to a table?[edit]

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to help on the discography of Shirley Bassey, but cannot work out how to add a new item in an existing table. For eg. I wish to add in 1975 a new album. The addition springs into the box on the right or the alinement is wrong? How can I edit exisiting tables? 80.100.26.222 (talk) 13:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Change the code like this:

|rowspan="2"|1975
|''Good, Bad, but Beautiful''
|13
|186
|54
|Silver
|-
|''New album''
|1
|—
|—
|—

Does that help? ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 13:21, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - Thank you I finally got it to work. 80.100.26.222 (talk) 14:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

malicious content[edit]

How do I stop malicious content being constantly reposted to page about my company after I delete it? We believe a rogue ex-employee of the company, who left out business due to his illegal activities, continues to try and exonerate the gaps in his CV by posting malicious content on this dubious website —Preceding unsigned comment added by GDNeil (talkcontribs)

To answer your question accurately, we need to know which article it is you refer to. Regards, decltype (talk) 13:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for asking and not getting involved in an edit war.
  1. Read Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations, especially the section "The article on me/my organization is an attack! What can I do?"
  2. Read Wikipedia:Vandalism
  3. Discuss the issues on the article talk page; ensure you disclose your relationship
  4. If you still have questions, come back here and ask.
---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 16:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Strange redirects[edit]

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why when I enter "Rff" in the search box, it redirects to "RFF" with "(Redirected from Rff)", but when I enter "Tgf" in the search box, it redirects to "TGF" without "(Redirected from Tgf)"?--Mikespedia (talk) 15:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Put simply I think the "Rff" page is redundant as it contains the exact same characters as the "RFF" page but someone created Rff and made a redirect anyway. For example if you search for "Axl rose" you get brought to the "Axl Rose" article without a redirect but if you go to the "Barack obama" page you get redirected to the "Barack Obama" article. Jeffrey Mall (talkcontribs) - 15:36, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The search tool will automatically try to match a nonexistent title with an existing one differing only by case, and take you there without comment. (Where is the search tool's current behavior documented, BTW? I know its behavior changed recently and that WP:MIXEDCAPS the requirements went away.) Anyhow, if you link to your search terms (or enter them directly in the URL) you will see the difference as Rff exists (as a redirect), but Tgf does not, and is thus a redlink. -- ToET 16:03, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Go button is documented at Help:Go button. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Linking to a section title containing a nonbreaking space[edit]

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do I fix this broken redirect: Girl Scouts of the Desert Southwest - Southern New Mexico & West Texas? The target section title contains a hard space (&nbsp;) before the dash:

=== Girl Scouts of the Desert Southwest&nbsp;– Southern New Mexico & West Texas ===

that is getting encoded into the anchor id as ".C2.A0", but that same hard space is encoded as just a space (that is, an underscore) in the link Scouting in Texas#Girl Scouts of the Desert Southwest – Southern New Mexico & West Texas. Using a "%C2%A0" does the same thing: Scouting in Texas#Girl couts of the Desert Southwest – Southern New Mexico & West Texas -- ToET 15:51, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it from both and the redirect is now working. Some scripts will change a space before a hyphen into a non-breaking space, but it is an invalid characters in HTML ids. I think I got all the council redirects updated from the last round of GSUSA merges— their naming is just not consistent. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 16:38, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a Category/SubCategory[edit]

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How to create a Category or Sub-Category? How to include pages to the above created Categories? --Thaejas

Let's use dogs as an example. Search for it like you would a page, except in the category namespace. You create the page named Category:Dogs. Then, add [[Category:Dogs]] to the bottom of pages you wish to add to the category. You create subcategories the same way, except you add [[Category:Dogs]] to the subcategory page as if it were an article. For more information, see Help:Category. hmwith 16:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help. -- Thaejas (talk) 18:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a picture to discography info box[edit]

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am tring to add a picture for the discography of Shirley Bassey, to the album The Fabulous Shirley Bassey info box, cannot seem to find out on the pages how I a can add a picture from my own PC. Dutchdean (talk) 15:58, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have a read through the picture tutorial. Jeffrey Mall (talkcontribs) - 16:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have tried to find it there but cannot find anything on adding a picture to an InfoBox. Dutchdean (talk) 16:16, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Try this

{{Infobox Person |name = Person Name |image = Picture.jpg |image_size = 180px Thaejas (talk 16:28, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have tried this but please see what happens...It is still not working... Dutchdean (talk) 16:33, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Check this [2] --Thaejas (talk) 16:46, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thaejas your link goes to Bad Link? What is wrong with what I am doing - the file is on my pC is 180 pix en has a .jpg name. Please can someone help me, do I need to upload a picture first? Where too? Dutchdean (talk) 16:50, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pls recheck the link again. Have corrected the link. Yes. You can upload the file by clicking on the Upload file in the toolbox (left navigational panel)--Thaejas (talk) 16:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I have managed to get it uploaded BUT now seem to have a licence problem?? Where is the Fair Use link? I cannot find any reference to Album covers here either? Dutchdean (talk) 17:11, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a picture to the page The Fabulous Shirley Bassey but there seems to be a problem. Can someone please explain how I can add an image using FAIR USE for ALBUM COVERS. Dutchdean (talk) 17:45, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Add the following to the image description page:

== Summary ==
{{album cover fur
|Article=The Fabulous Shirley Bassey
|Use=Infobox
|Source=http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre500/e582/e58232see60.jpg
}}
== Licensing: ==
{{Non-free album cover}}

∙ AJCham(talk) 18:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I now see that you have uploaded the image to Wikimedia Commons. Non-free images cannot be used on Commons, so the image should have been uploaded to Wikipedia instead. I'll sort it out. ∙ AJCham(talk) 18:38, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The image is now at File:FabulousShirleyBassey-Cover.jpg with the correct copyright information. The one on commons will soon be deleted. ∙ AJCham(talk) 18:44, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

font size in wikipedia display[edit]

For some reason wikipedia content text is way too large. is there any toolbox that will allow me to view wiki pages / text at the normal size?


You may be zoomed in - if you are using Firefox, try Ctrl & 0 (zero) to return to normal zoom, or Ctrl & - (minus) to zoom out. ∙ AJCham(talk) 18:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

cleanup[edit]

At the top of a page on Paul Shackel I created, there is a warning box about how the page needs "cleanup" to meet wiki standards. What exactly should I do? Also, there is another warning directly under the first one about needing additional citations for verification. Before the page was an orphan, but that warning went away. What should I do to get rid of these?

(CwAnth09 (talk) 18:55, 24 September 2009 (UTC))[reply]

See the links in the template: WP:Cleanup process and WP:Manual of Style. Also, check out WP:Cleanup resources. hmwith 19:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

rename page/redirect page[edit]

I have already change the page on Paul Shackel so that it would be redirected to Paul A. Shackel. It worked for a while, but now the redirection has reversed and whenever I try to access Paul A. Shackel I am redirected to Paul Shackel. I want it to be changed back! Was it changed automatically? How did this happen and how can I fix it?

(CwAnth09 (talk) 18:57, 24 September 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Someone else changed the redirect. Why do you want it changed back? Tim Song (talk) 19:08, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(e/c) It appears that two distinct pages grew up at about the same time. The current target is better laid out and referenced, so the other page was redirected to the current target. That seems appropriate to me. --AndrewHowse (talk) 19:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted it changed back because that is the way Paul wanted the page to look. I am trying to create this page for him. CwAnth09 (talk) 17:22, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading album cover scans?[edit]

Non-free images cannot be used on Commons, so the image should be uploaded to Wikipedia instead. How do I upload to Wiki without going thru the Commons upload? Dutchdean (talk) 19:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Click the "upload file" link in the "toolbox" on the left side of the screen over there <----. An upload wizard similar to the one used at Commons will walk you through the process. --Jayron32 19:51, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Walther PK380[edit]

I would like to see an article/information about Walther's new PK380 pistol in .380 caliber. Can this request be posted on Wikipedia for the public at large to respond and place an article accordingly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.38.2.150 (talkcontribs)

You could
  1. make a request at Wikipedia:Articles for creation if you have the source material but are not a registered user and so cannot create articles.
  2. make a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles if you do not have source material, or if you just want to make a general request that somebody else create the article based on their own interest or research
  3. Register your own account and make the article yourself, using the handy Wikipedia:Article wizard 2.0.
Hope one of these options works for you. --Jayron32 19:55, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Need formatting help[edit]

I am trying to "build" a music album page for the group "psydafect". I have a copy of thier self titled cd. I've started a page with some infromation from the cd. I don't know how to call up the page format for a album. Also can I use the cd cover on the page ?--Mark Pearcy (talk) 19:54, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Before you worry about formatting, please read WP:BAND and WP:ALBUM. The current draft on your user page will almost certainly be speedily deleted if moved to the mainspace in its current form. – ukexpat (talk) 20:45, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism to "Dimitri The Lover" Wikipedia[edit]

My name is Shawn. I am Dimitri The Lover's manager. My IP address is 149.99.9.122. I have someone from 99.141.52.107 deleting a section of the wiki that has been SOURCED with the appropriate reference. Basically, we released some voicemails last year which were viral marketing for a film being produced about Dimitri The Lover by Brad Goodman, who worked on Bruno and Borat. We cannot come right out and say that until his IMDB is updated next week, but we added a section that refers to the leak at progressiveadvertiser.com. They have CONFIRMED the movie to be true (check the link). I need this change reverted back to my original which mentions the leak, then if possible to have the article locked down as is with only senior wiki editors dealing with it. Dimitri The Lover is VERY CONTROVERSIAL and once word hits the mainstream media next week, it will be vandalized further. HELP !!!!!!!!1111 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.99.9.122 (talkcontribs)

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia cannot lock articles in a preferred version. There is only a limited form of page protection available and it only used rarely. Furthermore, if you have a conflict of interest regarding an article, you are discouraged from editing it. TNXMan 20:42, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
First off, at least I'm being HONEST about who I am. Secondly, what is the policy when two individuals are in an "undo" war? A senior wiki editor has to intervene at some point to decide if a paragraph stays or goes. Also, at what point is page protection enabled? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.99.9.122 (talkcontribs)
Being referenced is a necessary but not sufficient condition for including a nugget of information in Wikipedia. Even if it is referenced, it should be relevent to the article in question, not violate major policies like WP:UNDUE and WP:BLP and the like. Having a source is not a stick you can weild to force others to accept your personally preferred version of an article, and continuing to add a contested bit of text BACK into an article over and over can lead to a block for edit warring even if the bit of text has a source. Please stop and discuss this on the article talk page WITHOUT returning the contested text and source. --Jayron32 20:51, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good points. OK, to address them, the information is relevant in that there already was a section on the voicemails in the article and the progressiveadvertiser.com link clearly states "Many people have contacted us demanding to know how we can be so sure that the voicemails are viral marketing hoaxes for a Dimitri The Lover movie. Please note that we did not rely solely on heresay posted on the internet. We did our research and obtained reliable information from sources involved in the Hollywood movie project." So, they are saying it is CONFIRMED, and not heresay. We were trying to keep it under wraps for months, but when they finally broke it, I added it. Also, when I undid the offender's undo (lol), I stated that I wanted him to go to the discussion page and chat with me. He did not. He is not being reasonable. As a senior editor, could you please look at the source I have used as a reference and make a decision here.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.99.9.122 (talkcontribs) 149.99.9.122 (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
There are no "senior editors", we are all just "editors", even admins, except they just have a few extra tools to keep the place running smoothly. We decide issues by consensus.  – ukexpat (talk) 21:19, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If anyone's interested, there's an AfD of the article going on now. Xenon54 / talk / 21:44, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

MOST IMMEDIATE & HIGH/TOP PRIORITY BASIS HELP!!!![edit]

MOST IMMEDIATE & HIGH/TOP PRIORITY BASIS HELP!!!!

RESPECTED SIR/MADAM

WHILE WE WERE IN THE VERY MIDST OF THE PROCESS OF THE UNDER CONSTRUCTION OF OUR PREVIOUS 'ARTICLE' TITLED 'The Marghuz Va'li Illustrated' THAT IT WAS DELETED.

Now as Very Kindly Directed by Wikipedia we have started our New Article at the Special:My Page/The Marghuz Va'li Illustrated.

YOUR GOOD SELVES ARE MOST HUMBLUY REQUESTED TO TRANSFER ALL THE TEXT & IMAGES (AT THE LAST EDITION OF THAT ARTILE ON 22/23.09.2009) TO THIS NEW ATRICLE. AS IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO RE-WRITE THAT TOO MUCH HARD & DETAILED WORK WITH THE INTERNAL LINKS, REFERENCES ETC. ONCE AGAIN.

WE HOPE OUR THIS MOST HUMBLE REQUEST SHALL BE ACCEPTED IN THE GREATER INTEREST OF THE SPREAD OF THE LIGHT OF THE TRUST WORTHY KNOWLEDGE WHICH IS THE SOLE AIM & OBJECTIVE OF THE WIKIPEDIA.

WAITING MOST EAGERLY FOR YOUR THIS INFINITELY HIGHEST FAVOUR.

THANKING YOU RESPETED SIR/MADAM

YOURS VERY CORDIALLY

EDITING USER:

SwabiVal'

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SwabiVal' (talk) 22:23, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So where's your article? User:SwabiVal'/The Marghuz Va'li Illustrated is blank. Also, a quick primer on basic Internet etiquette: SHOUTING and lots of exclamation points will get you nowhere. And you only need 4 tildes, not 19, to sign a post. Xenon54 / talk / 22:32, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article was deleted as not being notable (just a gallery of photos) - see the AfD. I never saw the article itself, but from the comments left at the AfD, it doesn't seem as if it would actually "spread of the light of the trust worthy knowledge", to use the creator's words above. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 22:45, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Odd strings[edit]

I recently tried to add a section for newpage monitoring on my userpage, but there was some sort of error with {{Special:Newpages}}, and a nonsense string, UNIQ42e98bee533bca26-h-0--QINU?, is somehow added to all the subtitles. This problem also occurs on Template:Dashboard. What could be causing it? Intelligentsium 22:41, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what is causing it either - it happens with all the ==<title>== section headings on the Dashboard template (I added ==test== to the template and previewed it, and it happened to that too). Level 2 headings elsewhere aren't affected, so maybe that can help someone narrow down the problem. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 22:57, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The folks over at VPT might be able to help you further. It sounds to me like a software bug... Xenon54 / talk / 23:27, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]