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April 26[edit]

Reference error on the Legacy section of the Bonanza page.[edit]

<Apparently I did not enter the reference correctly in the Legacy section of the Bonanza article. I was listing a scene from the movie City Slickers and U-Tube (where the scene may be viewed) was my reference. Thanks for any help!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:bdc0:cf90:c9d7:2d7d:8e87:74df (talk) 00:34, 26 April 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

The error message on the page said "Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page)", and the words "help page" were in blue indicating that it was a wikilink, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input. Another editor has reverted your edits. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:52, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing errors on Orthostatic headache[edit]

Reference help requested. How do you use a reference multiple times so it does not show up in the reference section twice? Thanks, RReilles24 (talk) 02:17, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well RReilles24, a reference you would like to cite multiple times needs to be given a name. That can be accomplished like this. You know how a reference is sandwiched between tags? It looks something like this:
<ref> (reference goes here) </ref>
To give it a name, change it to this, replacing "name" with the desired name (Keep the quotes though!):
<ref name="name"> (reference goes here) </ref>
Once that is done, you may cite it elsewhere in the article by placing the following where you want to cite this source:
<ref name="name" />
That's a basic explanation. Make sense to you? I hope it was helpful! SarrCat ∑;3 02:32, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) You had tried to use a named ref without having defined it. I've sorted it out in this edit. I've also tidied up a number of cases where there were spaces between punctuation and a ref; according to the Manual of Style the ref should follow immediately after the ref without spaces. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:46, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Creating Two Draft Articles and Unmerging Their Histories[edit]

Let me try to explain what I am asking about. In a particular case, I would like to create or request the creation of two draft articles, about two different people with the same name, whose draft BLPs have been in the same page. I know that in this situation the people have to be differentiated by disambiguation. That isn't the question. The article in question is Draft:Jeff Cavins. It seems, on reading the history, that the draft was a BLP of a technologist, and was worked on inconsistently, and never made it into article space. Then someone overwrote it with the BLP of a different person, a Catholic writer. In my opinion, they probably should have created a separate page, and disambiguated it, but they probably didn't know any better, being new. What I think needs to be done is a sort of "history unmerge", to create two draft articles, one for each person, so that different editors can at least try to establish notability for either of them. If Wikipedia had a "Save As" function that would move an old historical version of the page, that would do what I would like to see done. Is this something that can be done within Wikipedia? How can we recover from this understandable newbie act that seems to have now muddled two people? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:06, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Robert McClenon: There is a way to do this but only an admin can help you. A HISTSPLIT has to be performed on the page splitting the page into two and moving the relevant history where it belongs. If an admin doesn't respond here you may want to poke someone at AN or on one of their talk pages. --Majora (talk) 03:36, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. It has the right name, a "history split", as it is the opposite of a history merge. I will take your advice and wait a few days, since this forum is watched by several admins, and will then poke around. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:50, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As the page says, it is for a situation that in theory shouldn't happen, because the two topics are different, but in this case the reason is that two topics have the same name because two people have the same name. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:52, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page archives Talk:Buddhism/Archive 17, Talk:Buddhism/Archive 18, and Talk:Buddhism/Archive 19 are not showing up in the talk header archive list on Talk:Buddhism. Does anyone know why? Thanks--76.14.40.2 (talk) 03:10, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

16 was deleted, 18 and 19 are redirects back to the main talk page. 17 seems to date back to round about the time of archive 12 or so (in 2009 & 2010). I was going to say that it would be best to ask Viriditas, as he did a lot of manual juggling of archives at that time, but I see that he hasn't edited since February and his last edit talks of health problems. 15 is the latest in the current automated series. - David Biddulph (talk) 03:33, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like Archive 17 belongs in-between 12 and 13. I'll manually move half the content to Archive 12, and the rest to Archive 13. Once that's done, I'll just leave Archive 17 blank so that it can be used later. -- The Voidwalker Discuss 16:21, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Collapsible list[edit]

I'm wanting to create a collapsible list for an article, but I don't know how to do so. Can anyone give me pointers? Thanks. --Beneficii (talk) 03:26, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see this page (Template:Collapsible list)? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:39, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Missed it. Thanks! --Beneficii (talk) 04:15, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:05, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

we want to register wikipedia[edit]

Hello we want to register on wikipedia our company name is Asian Granito India ltd website www.aglasiangranito.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruchirjethva (talkcontribs) 05:45, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ruchirjethva Wikipedia is not a free advertising or web hosting site- only companies that pass Wikipedia's notability guidelines will have an article written about them.
If after reading Wikipedia's notability guidelines you believe your company passes them, you can request for an article to be written here. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:07, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Moving an Infobox[edit]

Is it possible to move an Infobox to the left of an article please? On the page Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire (motor car), the right-justification of the "Sapphire 234 engine" infobox makes the page look very clumsy. Is it possible to move this to the left side of the article, directly under the "Sapphire 234" text? GTHO (talk) 05:46, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion for Sapphire 234, no guarantee that the accessibility folks (screen-reader, mobile, ...) tolerate this. –Be..anyone 💩 06:32, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Complementary colors: is there some mathematical way to determine the hex code of its complementary color?[edit]

If I have a hex code for a color, is there some mathematical way to determine the hex code of its complementary color? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:37, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes: subtract its hex code from FFFFFF. So, taking the 2A8000 you mentioned earlier, we do the subtraction
   FFFFFF
  -2A8000
  _______
   D57FFF
getting D57FFF as the result. The subtraction is easy, there are never any "carries", we just replace 0 by F and vice versa, likewise 1 & E, 2 & D, 3 & C, 4 & B, 5 & A, 6 & 9, 7 & 8. Maproom (talk) 08:53, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure? I just found a website. Here: [1]. When I type in 2A8000 (a dark green), it says the complement is 560080 (a dark purple). Your D57FFF is a light purple, almost pink or rose-colored. Why the discrepancy? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:40, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I see. I understood "complementary" to swap dark for light as well as green for purple etc. That site adjusts the brightness so that the brightness of the highest RGB component is the same as the brightness of the highest RGB component was before (which seems to me an odd and arbitrary thing to do; adjusting the total brightness to be what it was before might be reasonable). I can provide a fairly simple procedure to do what that site does, if it will help. Maproom (talk) 17:43, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Thanks. All of this is "over my head" and I don't understand it too much. So, let me ask. Shouldn't the word "complementary color" mean the same exact thing to you as it does to me as it does to anyone else (including that web site guy)? And, therefore, wouldn't anyone and everyone come up with the same exact hex values? (I am totally confused.) Also, yes: if you could provide me with the math formula, that would be great. What I am looking for is this. I want to use two colors (in an art or graphics project). One color I have selected (the "original color"). And I want the other second color to be the "best" fit or the best "contrast" or the best "match" to pair up with the original color. In other words, the most aesthetically pleasing (from a color perspective) combination. I assumed that "complementary colors" does just that. That they "complement" each other best. But I could be wrong. Please let me know. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:15, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I won't comment on what "complementary" ought to mean. I will just point out that [2] says that the complementary colour to black is black, and to white is white; and that my view is different.
To do the sum as that site does it: take the original value; find the highest individual component as specified by its two hex digits; write three copies of those two hex digits; and subtract the original value from that. For example, starting with 2A8000 again:
   2A8000 
           components are 2A 80 00, highest is 80, so
   808080
  -2A8000
  _______
   560080
Maproom (talk) 18:29, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Joseph A. Spadaro: The first two sentences of the article Complementary colors says: "Complementary colors are pairs of colors which, when combined, cancel each other out. This means that when combined, they produce a grey-scale color like white or black." Thus, unless your original colour has maximum brightness in at least one of the 3 components, there will be a range of complementary colours which when combined with the original colour give varying shades of grey. You mention "aesthetically pleasing", but that is a subjective judgement. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:43, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I now realise that while my account of what that site does is correct, my explanation of how to do it is wrong, though both the methods I have given above correctly select a colour from the range mentioned by David Biddulph. Joseph A. Spadaro What do you think are the colours complementary to black, and to white? If I knew that, I would try to provide a method of doing the calculation you need. Maproom (talk) 21:12, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what is the complementary color for white or for black. I really don't even know/understand what a complementary color is, in general. So, back to what I am looking for. What I am looking for is this. I want to use two colors (in an art or graphics project). One color I have selected (the "original color"). And I want the other second color to be the "best" fit or the best "contrast" or the best "match" to pair up with the original color. In other words, the most aesthetically pleasing (from a color perspective) combination. I assumed that "complementary colors" does just that. That they "complement" each other best. But I could be wrong. Please let me know. Thanks. I assumed that a complementary color is that which complements the other best and, thus, is the best pair together (most pleasing aesthetics). Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:37, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, definitely *not*. In general, you want to avoid put complementary colors next to each other), it tends to be far too harsh. Just look at the examples at the top of Complementary colors. Complementary colors have to do with a technical definition of the spectrum, and really nothing at all it terms of aesthetics, although they do tend to be close to the maximum possible contrast. You want to show differences or classification, not make peoples eyes hurt. There are many articles on choosing color in design on the Internet. Rwessel (talk) 05:54, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say the source cited by maproom is likely incorrect. I'd consider this one more authoritative. The complement of black is white. Not black. That should be obvious. Also, the RGB calculation gives a complement in RGB units, but that doesn't equate to the concept of complementary colors being on opposite sides of the color wheel. The RGB calculation simply gives you a new point diagonally from the first in a color cube, not quite the same thing. ~Amatulić (talk) 06:01, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up[edit]

Let me change my question. I guess I never should have used the term "complementary color", since I did not know what it meant and I was only assuming what it meant. And what I thought it meant is not what it actually does mean. So, let's forget complementary colors, altogether. So here is my new question. If I want to select two colors for an art/graphics project, is there any "correct" way to select the two colors that complement each other best? That give the "best" aesthetic appearance? I assume that art people (graphic artists, etc.) have some basic "rules" or guidelines. (Like, for example, you should never use purple with red. Or whatever. I just made that up as an example.) But, I assume artists and the like have some standards/rules/guidelines as to how to mix colors. Yes? By the way, I am not talking about actually mixing colors (like one might mix two paint colors together). I am talking about using two colors side by side. And want one color that best complements my other color. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 14:47, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No. There are no rules that 'artists' must obey. If there were, there would be no 'artists'. Artists are, and should be, the people for whom 'ignore all rules' was invented. Graphic artists are, by nature of their occupation, beholden to their clients whose color sense, if it exists, directs the graphic artists color choices. Find two colors that you like, but, if you are using those colors at Wikipedia, make sure that the colors you have chosen won't make life difficult for those who have color-sight / contrast problems. See Web Content Accessibility Guidelines and this contrast checker
Trappist the monk (talk) 15:22, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but you miss my point. And I am quite sure there are basic "rules" that artists follow. Even though "rules" is not the correct word. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:32, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect example: Rule of thirds. And it actually is called a "rule". Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:35, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
'Artists' who follow rules might as well be painting by number. For those of us who are not artists, there are rules, like rule of thirds, that can help us to make more pleasing pictures but that doesn't make us 'artists'. But you didn't ask about us; you asked about 'artists', and they do not have rules. My comment stands: For here on Wikipedia, use colors that you like, but make sure that you maintain accessibility.
Trappist the monk (talk) 17:58, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you being so pedantic, man? Seriously? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:53, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Because Wikipedia is available to be viewed by anyone, including those who are colorblind or find it difficult to read low-contrast text. We should not choose colors that make reading Wikipedia difficult for some readers. You will notice that there is very little in the way of color diversity in Wikipedia articles. There's a reason for that.
Trappist the monk (talk) 19:04, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My reply: (1) I was not referring to the "accessibility" issue. (2) I was referring to your being "pedantic" about the word "artist" versus "non-artist", etc. (3) There is a great deal of color diversity in Wikipedia articles. I can link many examples. Not the least of which are the many, many, many articles we have about color, proper (example, List of colors (compact), List of colors: A–F, Web colors#Color table, and the like). If you don't see "color diversity" there, then I am at a loss for words. Those articles essentially contain ever single color that exists. How much more diversify in color can a Wikipedia article possibly contain? Really? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:52, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
When you reply to the whole of what someone says without identifying a particular point, then the other person is left to decide what it is that you are talking about. In this case, you did not say that you were referring to my opinion regarding artists. Since you described what I said as 'pedantic' and since I know that a pedant is a stickler for rules, I understood you to be referring to the accessibility part of my post which does involve rules. My opinion about what constitutes an artist does not involve rules; it is just an opinion.
When the totality of Wikipedia articles are taken as a whole, not a select few, you will notice that there is not much color diversity. The background is mostly the color you see here; same with the text color. There are minor flashes of color in infoboxes, nav boxes, etc.; there are color images, icons, ... But, as a proportion of total screen area, these flashes of color are insignificant.
Trappist the monk (talk) 16:38, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, it goes without saying that 99.99% of Wikipedia consists of black words (text) on a white background. That is not what we were discussing, however. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:06, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The colors used on Wikipedia and accessibility criteria are exactly what I'm talking about, that little distraction of my pedantry notwithstanding. In every post I have made in this conversation, I have had something to say about accessibility and color. I know you started this topic on the subject of rules for artists. I intentionally have dragged it away from art and to accessibility because Wikipedia is not art so making color choices as an artist might is not appropriate here. Color choices must be made with accessibility firmly in mind.
Trappist the monk (talk) 23:32, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New Article Submission[edit]

Hello Wikipedia, I'm here to submit my article and I wanted to know the requirements of it. Waiting to hear reply from you.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fjackets (talkcontribs) 07:48, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Fjackets. Please read WP:Your first article very carefully. Personally, I wonder why a new user would even think of plunging straight into one of the most difficult tasks there is, and would strongly advise you to spend some time editing existing articles before you even start. --ColinFine (talk) 08:30, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Issue in Article Name[edit]

Institute of Energy Management and Research

The name of the institute is now "Great Lakes Institute of Management, Gurgaon" and the current website address is http://www.greatlakes.edu.in/gurgaon. The erstwhile website www.iemr.in is also getting redirected to the new web address. It is requested to kindly make the changes in the Article as well as the web address. Dsachdeva123 (talk) 08:28, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dsachdeva123 I've moved it to Great Lakes Institute of Management, Gurgaon, and added a note on Great Lakes Institute of Management linking to this page. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:48, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have found it hard to correctly format a book on this talk page. Please help. Please leave in all of comments. Thnaks so much 101.189.0.102 (talk) 08:30, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Maproom (talk) 09:09, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Phallocentrism[edit]

Hi: I want to move User:Jacobisq/Phalllocentrism to Phallocentrism, but am blocked by a redirect at the latter space pointing to Phallogocentrism. It's a redirect with possibilities, so there must be a straightforward way of doing this, but I've not been able to find it....Jacobisq (talk) 09:32, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Maproom: There is actually no straightforward way of doing it: since the redirect to be overwritten has a non-trivial edit history, you need an admin to delete it first. You can request this under G6, using the template
{{db-move|page to be moved here|reason for move}}
on the page to be deleted. For more detail, see WP:MOR. —  crh 23  (Talk) 09:39, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Have replaced redirect by the desired text, but guess that leaves the edit history/talk page as problematic still...Jacobisq (talk) 15:09, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Since the history of User:Jacobisq/Phalllocentrism consists of just one revision, it is a rare case where the cut and paste move was appropriate. Ruslik_Zero 17:53, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Music quotation[edit]

How to insert a music quotation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoreno1 (talkcontribs) 11:03, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:Manual of Style/Music#Images and notation. General Ization Talk 13:23, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

refs 15 and 21 are hopelessly wrong. They are both form the same book. The page number is 131 footnote 30. Please include this information in the refs. I am sorry I got t all wrong. Sorry 101.189.0.102 (talk) 11:10, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It appears this was fixed.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:39, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Finding a contribution[edit]

Sometime in the last week, I made an edit (I created a user page for my Maproom account) at some English-language Wikipedia project. Now I can't find it. It wasn't en.wikipedia.org, or commons.wikimedia.org, or meta.wikimedia.org. Is there a way I can search for it? Maproom (talk) 11:13, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You might be able to find it in your browser history (Ctrl-H in Chrome/Firefox/IE). AndrewWTaylor (talk) 11:18, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The bottom of user contributions has an "accounts" link which shows where you have edits. mw:User:Maproom was created 22 April. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:20, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
www.mediawiki.org - Try the "Global contributions" link at the foot of your Contributions page. David Biddulph (talk) 11:21, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Maproom (talk) 11:32, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Patrolling query[edit]

I've been using Lupin's live spell-checker to correct a few thousand pages in recent weeks. I've just noticed this patrol log on my account. I'm unclear of its meaning and am concerned I might have accidentally been flagging pages as 'checked' in some way, when all I've been doing is looking for typos and reverting obvious vandalism. I can't see why just a handful of pages have been flagged in this way, when myriads of others I've edited haven't. As Lupin's talk pages aren't monitored much nowadays, I thought it best to seek assurance here that something I've been doing isn't causing problems to, or undermining, the work of others. Parkywiki (talk) 14:02, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It looks as if those marked as patrolled are those with pending changes protection. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:08, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks David. Sounds like I needn't worry I've been unwittingly causing problems! Parkywiki (talk) 14:17, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref[edit]

Why is this message showing? Can it be removed please do I can reference the last point.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by FinnRiver180 (talkcontribs) 17:24, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is David Pearce (Boxer) it says the ref is missing a tag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FinnRiver180 (talkcontribs) 17:26, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand this. When I looked at David Pearce (boxer), it didn't have a references section. It cited references, but they weren't shown anywhere. I added a references section, and none of the references that appeared there has an error message. Maproom (talk) 17:52, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The question was asked prior to this correction. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:13, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How do I add a picture? I keep trying to upload one of David Pearce to the page and it won't let me?

Can anyone help????

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input[edit]

Hello, I am trying to cite a reference on a matter, I cannot appeR to complete, please advise how I can add ISBN number9781781171882? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macaedha (talkcontribs) 19:20, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is Template:Cite book what you are looking for? You need the title and author as well as the ISBN. You are correct that it needs to go between <ref> and </ref>. Try: <ref>{{cite book |last=Bloggs |first=Joe |date=1974 |title=Book of Bloggs |url=http://.... |publisher= |page= |isbn=9781781171882 |access-date=April 26, 2016}}</ref>, filling in the appropriate information. Dbfirs 20:45, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Heading added by ColinFine (talk) 21:09, 26 April 2016 (UTC)>[reply]

I am the sister is Patrick Moten and he has been mis represented We did not approve anything to be put on wikipedia therefore we are requesting certain things be removed for it is false information contact us at sales2SILKYTHECAP.COM IN REFERENCE TO: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taychysav (talkcontribs) 20:59, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Taychysav. Nobody is going to contact you except here. Your approval is neither sought nor required: you do not have any control over the article about your brother. If there is information in the article which is unreferenced and contentious, anybody may remove it; but because of your connection with him, your best bet is to follow the instructions in WP:AUTOPROB. --ColinFine (talk) 21:09, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semiprotected page[edit]

Heading added by ColinFine (talk) 21:09, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I only signed up one week ago but I would like to add valuable information to a page which says editing is prevented to protect against vandalism. When and how can I gain the appropriate access to edit this page to add valuable scientific information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reallysomething123 (talkcontribs) 21:01, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Reallysomething123. In order to edit a semiprotected page, you need to be autoconfirmed, which happens when your account is four days old and has made ten edits; this is one, so you need to make nine morer edits, anywhere in Wikipedia. Please make sure that the information you want to add is cited to a reliable published source: unpublished information is not acceptable in Wikipedia articles. --ColinFine (talk) 21:13, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you ColinFine

This requirement to make 10 edits before editing a semiprotected page seems like it could encourage users to make unnecessary or non-valuable edits to other pages just so that they could gain permission to add content to the semiprotected page they are trying to edit. I don't want to go make 10 edits to pages randomly just to gain access, I'd just like to contribute something valuable to one page in particular. I think Wikipedia needs to consider changing this policy. Perhaps a user could verify their Government issued ID by uploading a picture of it to then be a verified user or something else of the sort. There could be many other possible solutions which would not encourage superfluous or unnecessary edits of random pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reallysomething123 (talkcontribs) 21:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Reallysomething123: The policy is not going to change. 10 edits to any other page is a very very low bar and it stops an enormous amount of vandalism. Pages are protected for a reason and there are literally millions of other articles, many of them on the same general topic, that are unprotected. In addition, we have a mechanism that users can use if they want to make an edit to a protected page but they do not have the proper permissions to do so. See WP:Edit request. All you have to do is click the "view source" button on the top and then the "submit and edit request" button in the header. This will load a template onto the talk page where you can request what you want to change and other editor can approve (or deny) the change and make it for you (or tell you why it was denied). --Majora (talk) 21:53, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Error/possible trolling on page "Feminist theory"[edit]

Hi Wikipedia,

The page "Feminist theory" Feminist theory lists "Piers Morgan" as a prominent feminist thinker. Piers Morgan has deidcated much of his career to attacking feminism, and should not be listed on this page at all. Please update this page so users are not led astray! Also please be aware that pages with subject matter like this one are regularly being mis-edited to undermine the integrity of the content; I suspect a concerted trolling effort targeting pages about feminism. As of today most errors have been fixed, but this one remains. Also note that the source cited for the statement in question says nothing of the sort. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1008:B05A:AE16:DD64:CBC4:178F:FE9B (talk) 21:04, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for expressing your concerns. When identifying an article, it is better to provide a wikilink, such as Feminist theory, rather than a URL. That is especially true because the URL is different for users of the mobile app and users of the standard app (whether using full-sized desktops, full-sized laptops, or mobile devices that handle the full interface), and because either URL causes difficulty to users of the author. I have changed the URL to a wikilink. When a wikilink is used, the software displays the appropriate format for the user. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:00, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Vandalism in this edit; I've reverted the vandalism. David Biddulph (talk) 21:11, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In this case it is obvious vandalism, but I'm concerned that the article is almost completely silent about critics and detractors, which leaves the article unbalanced. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:03, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ClueBot[edit]

Hi User:Tony Fan123 just asked about the "warnings" that ClueBot has given them. From my review of the edits in question I couldn't find any obvious reason why they were getting reverted. So my question is should we strike out or delete the invalid warnings on the user's talk page? Feinoha Talk 21:31, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The user should report the false positive and remove the message, as the warning instructs. RudolfRed (talk) 22:24, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BOXES[edit]

How do I get one of those boxes with the person's picture, name, birth date, death date, ad stats? I am new please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarakasm (talkcontribs) 22:47, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Sarakasm: On which page do you want it? If it's a search engine page like Google, Yahoo or Bing then it's made by them and not controlled by Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar is not my strong point. Should there be an "s" added at the end of the words "Peter H. Wilson" in the section - Marriage and wife's family background - on this page? The book he wrote belongs to him - should there be an "s"? Thanks for your help.Srbernadette (talk) 23:44, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Srbernadette: Ja, there should. I've done it, and thanks for mentioning it. Jjamesryan (talk | contribs) 23:51, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]