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February 15

How to request that links on all pages to a specific site be updated from http to https

I have a website that has recently been upgraded to support https. There are number of Wikipedia pages that link to this site, so I would like to update all the Wikipedia links to my site from http links to https. There is a bot called KolbertBot, [1] that regularly performs this function. But I cannot find any instructions for how to run it, or, preferably, to make a request to have it run for the links to my site.Thomas H. White (talk) 00:09, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Are there so many links you need a bot's help? What is the site and how many articles link to it? RudolfRed (talk) 01:50, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

My site is https://earlyradiohistory.us . Google shows that there are at least 90 places in English Wikipedia where the website name is spelled out. However, this is an incomplete list, since Google doesn't see links that are embedded in references that only display the title of the page being linked to. In other words, Google only spiders the displayed text of a page, and doesn't parse the HTML code of the page to see if there is an embedded "a href" entry that points to my site. In contrast, KolbertBot is able to inspect the HTML code to find all the links within the references.

Examples: Google sees the link in reference #2 of General Order 40 because my website name is spelled out. But it doesn't see the link in references #7, 11 & 14 of WGI (defunct), because the webpage name is only within the reference links and not displayed in the article. Thomas H. White (talk) 02:22, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Special:LinkSearch/earlyradiohistory.us shows all links. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:35, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

@Thomas H. White: I believe your best bet would be to contact KolbertBot's operator, Jon Kolbert – he may be able to add your site to his bot's tasks. –FlyingAce^✈hello 02:41, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Map caption

Hi,

On the article Amsterdam Science Park railway station, I wanted to replace the map caption "Location within Randstad" (which is both grammatically and geographically incorrect) by "Location within the Amsterdam metropolitan area" but could not find the setting. Can someone do it for me please since it surely involves templates I am unaware of? Thanks.

PS: I would also like to request two images for the Provinces of the Netherlands article (coat of arms "lions model" of Limburg and North Holland; if you look at the board you will see the difference). Where can I ask that?

WhatsUpWorld (talk) 01:07, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

It looks like that since the map_caption parameter was blank, the caption was generated by the template as Location in xxx, where xxx is taken from the name of the specified map. But any caption can be specified with the map_caption parameter. I went ahead and made the update you requested. MB 02:52, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Where can I ask for the images? WhatsUpWorld (talk) 19:14, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Sources used

Hello. Can you help me with the sources we can use during editinf the articles of wikipedia? This source is a mirror of wiki or we can use it - https://upclosed.com/people/saint-abhai/Lyupant (talk) 08:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps Saint Abhai should be a redirect to our older article Abhai (saint)? John Carter might confirm whether or not these are the same? If they are different, then we need better titles. I assume that Abhai of Hach is a different person? There seem to be lots of mirrors of Wikipedia, so perhaps we shouldn't try to use them as sources. Dbfirs 14:01, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

When it comes to mirrors/forks of Wikipedia used as sources, see WP:CIRCULAR. I have a hard time believing Dbfirs is not aware of that guideline, but readers may be lead astray by the "perhaps" part of the reply above. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 14:49, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, no intention to mislead. I could have phrased my reply more clearly for general readers. The doubt in my mind was regarding which came first, but obviously we should never ever use mirror sites as sources, and I'd assumed that Lyupant was already aware of that principle. Dbfirs 15:00, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your answers and for notes about Saints. Anyway it was useful from both of us.Lyupant (talk) 13:18, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Image annotation popups and {{ImageNote}}

In Commons pages, I have seen dynamic popup annotations associated with specific areas of an image, eg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Menschen_am_Eis_(Bruegel).jpg?uselang=en

Looking at the page source, it does this using {{ImageNote}} and {{ImageNoteEnd}} templates. These seem to exist in enWP, but without documentation. I've tried adding {{ImageNote}} and {{ImageNoteEnd}} pairs to an {{Artwork}} in enWP, but don't see the desired behaviour.

Does this mechanism exist/ work in enWP? Specifically, in a text article about a painting that analyses its structure, I would like to be able to define and annotate rectangles in the preview image to show where the individual details are.

Scarabocchio (talk) 15:42, 15 February 2018 (UTC) (edited)

Untitled

Dear: to whom this may concern

https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B1%D9%86%D8%A7_%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84

The link listed above is a page about me personally not established by me but its about me my issue is at the top of the page it reads:

هذه مقالة غير مراجعة. ينبغي أن يزال هذا القالب بعد أن يراجعها محرر ما عدا الذي أنشأها؛ إذا لزم الأمر فيجب أن توسم المقالةبقوالب الصيانة المناسبة. (أكتوبر 2017)

my issue is that i am want this message to be gone since the information in the page is all true and its about me

thank you very much hope to hear from you soon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranakhalilrk2 (talk • contribs) 13:05, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Ranakhalilrk2: This is the help desk for the English Wikipedia. You would need to take up the issue at ar.wiki. Their help links are here but from what I can gather, the page needs to be edited with verifiable facts and sources by a contributor without a close connection to the subject of the article in order to ensure its neutrality. Eagleash (talk) 14:03, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Sattari Malda

Can someone explain why there is a "New Section" tab on this article?— Preceding unsigned comment added by L293D (talk (talk • contribs) contribs) (UTC)

@L293D: Can you clarify what you are referring to. I could not see any tags on the page. It is however, a fairly new page and probably has not yet been reviewed. I have tidied up some formatting and layout errors. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~).. Eagleash (talk) 14:44, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

I was saying that there was "New Section" tab on the article that I found bizarre. L293D (✉) 14:47, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

It had the magic word __NEWSECTIONLINK__, but that has now been removed. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:10, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Submitting for review

Hi guys - I've spent a fair bit of time editing my article and I think I'm at the point where I should submit it for review. However, it still has some minor issues in it (I can't figure out how to format the See Also section correctly) and am not sure if a few places need additional references. Ideally, I'd like to be able to submit it for review so I can at least get feedback on what I currently have written.

I also need to still add images - how many should I add?

Can anyone tell me what happens after you submit an article for review? Will I get feedback and have a chance to implement changes? Or is there a risk of it getting completely rejected?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CanadianMusicFan3 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

CanadianMusicFan3, it needs some work yet. I've added some wikilinks (totally absent) and done a bit of formatting on the opening sentences, but there are many places where opinions are present as facts, with weasel words like "unique vision". the fact that someone claims it to be so, even in a reference doesn't make it a fact. If i had a penny for every "unique vision" that passes through these pages.... and the endless lists of unsourced non-notable people, venues and events just looks like spam Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jimfbleak - first, I have no clue how to reply to you (this is my best guess??) so hope this works. Thanks so much for your help. I will fix the things you mentioned - really appreciate it. (Also, if there's a better way to reply to you, just let me know? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CanadianMusicFan3 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Oh, also - I'm currently trying to upload a few images and it keeps denying me. I'm now trying it via the Wiki upload page, so maybe that will work? Is there any trick to adding images via the image icon on the Edit Source page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CanadianMusicFan3 (talk • contribs) 15:32, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

• CanadianMusicFan3 Upload to Commons, any images that aren't taken by you personally or have appeared elsewhere on the internet will eventually be deleted. And please sign your messages Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:39, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

• CanadianMusicFan3 if you click on talk to me? it will take you to my talk page. Add messages at the bottom, with a heading, and sign them Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:41, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Response to Jim Bleak Thanks Jim - I won't add any images then. I cannot figure out how to add a message at the bottom of your personal page - I am only able to click on Edit Source of other people's comment threads. But that's okay, I'll just continue writing here. I have removed the long spammy lists on the page, and will now remove unbiased phrasing. Thanks again. Signed: CanadianMusicFan3 —Preceding undated comment added 15:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) (x2)@CanadianMusicFan3: I have moved the see also section to its conventional position. I agree with with Jim on the points he's raised. I went through and made a lead and reformatted at the same time as him but got an edit conflict (twice) followed by loss of connection! Please also see WP:REFB for how to correctly add references and there should not be a space before the opening <ref> tag. Images should ideally be uploaded to commons; click contributions at the top of any page, then uploads then 'commons' in the first line. At commons click upload on the left and it should guide you nthrough the upload procdure and licensing. Images should be your own work; do not copy from elsewhere on the web. Logos have to be uploade to Wikipedia not commons. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Eagleash (talk) 15:47, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Response to Eagleash - thanks for the tips. I did look up how to do proper reference so I'm not sure what's wrong with them? I will delete spaces before the opening tag. Signed: CanadianMusicFan3 CanadianMusicFan3 (talk) 16:01, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

@CanadianMusicFan3: There's not a lot wrong with refs (in comparison to some first goes!) However, for example this ref <ref>Gene Armstrong [https://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/bang-on-this/Content?oid=1087247 “Bang on This: Scrap Arts Music brings in the noise, brings in the 'Phonk!'”]. “[[Tucson Weekly]],” 29 March 2007.</ref> should be written using the 'cite web' template. There is a list of templates to use at WP:CITET. Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 16:19, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

@Eagleash:, sorry for the conflicts! @CanadianMusicFan3: i won't necessarily see messages here unless you start them with {{ping|Jimfbleak}} and sign with four tildes~~~~ at the end. That will send me an alert Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:35, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

@Jimfbleak: No worries! Happens to me all the time trying to assist here. Losing connection had me tearing up the keyboard though (and more conflicts when I finally got back here) :).

@Eagleash: Thanks. So should that example you gave actually look like this? Armstrong, Gene (April 30, 2005). "Bang on This: Scrap Arts Music brings in the noise, brings in the 'Phonk!'". Tuscon Weekly. Tuscon Weekly. Retrieved March 29, 2007. Signed: CanadianMusicFan3CanadianMusicFan3 (talk) 16:45, 15 February 2018 (UTC) @Jimfbleak: Thanks for the heads up. I can't figure out how to post at the bottom of your page (there is no option I can see for that, so I'll just continue to write here. Signed: CanadianMusicFan3CanadianMusicFan3 (talk) 16:45, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

@CanadianMusicFan3: On the ref, it's Fine except that I'd leave the website= parameter blank, it's an unnecessary duplication. I suggest that instead of continuing here, that any further discussion is on your talk page. You can still ping me or Eagleash as you have successfully done above. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:50, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @CanadianMusicFan3: Yes looks right I think. Click new section at the top of Jim's talk page to start a new thread. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). You don't need to ping at his TP but a ping won't work elsewhere unless you use the tildes. If you're beginning to think this is a lot of work, you are probably right! (later) Yes Jim is right website or publisher but both is unnecessary. Eagleash (talk) 16:54, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Ct. Alexei Orlov

I just created a page for Alexei Orlov and it does not appear in the search box. Can you please explain why? I am also not able to upload his picture as well as his family shield.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Carottim/sandbox

Thanks youCarottim (talk) 15:49, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

@Carottim: You have created a draft in your userspace, this will not be searchable except as a user page. I have left a welcome message and some useful links at your talk page. Your draft could be moved to draftspace if you wish to continue to develop it. (it is not ready for inclusion in the encyclopedia as yet). Please ask if you need help with this. Eagleash (talk) 15:59, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Jay Spain

extended article content

John Jesse "Jay" Spain (born July 10, 1957) is an American documentary film-maker. Film In collaboration with Godfrey Cheshire III, Spain created the documentary film, Moving Midway (2007). In collaboration with S. Jay Niver, Jr, Spain created the documentary film, Live and Let Go (2002). Although Spain primarily is known for documentaries, he has made a number of films, such as Immortal (1995), Chesterfield (1998).http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0816675/?ref_=nv_sr_1 The first film Spain directed was the documentary Live and Let Go, An American Death (2002), which tells the story of Sam Niver, a man in Sneads Ferry, North Carolina, who is terminally ill with cancer, but wants to die on his own terms. The film explores the issue of death-with-dignity from one family's perspective. Spain's collaboration with Godfrey Cheshire and producer Vin Farrell, Moving Midway, A Southern Plantation in Transit http://www.movingmidway.com, premiered at New Directors New Films presented by the Film Society of Lincoln Center's New York Film Festival in May 2007. The film explores the issue of race in the America through its southern roots. Acquired for theatrical distribution by First Run Features and released to North American audiences, Moving Midway's theatrical debut was at the Lincoln Center Theatres and the IFC Center on Sept 12, 2008. As a managing member of its privately-funded, film development partnership, Moving Midway, LLC, Spain was involved in every production and business aspect of this critically acclaimed film that was chosen as one of the two “Top Documentaries of 2008” by the New York Observer and New York Magazine and in the “Top Ten Movies of 2008“ by the LA Weekly. Moving Midway can be seen online via iTunes and Amazon Prime and in periodic screenings on 35mm at the Museum of Modern Art in NYC where it is part of the permanent film collection. The film has a 100% approval rating by RottenTomatoes.com (as of February 2018). https://www.rottentomatoes.com/search/?search=moving+midway Spain has filmed and edited numerous broadcast and educational films and portions of other documentary features. His passion for the documentary began while filming and editing his first, Sound & Silence (1983) A Japanese Experience, directed by Ron Kemp, which premiered on WUNC public television with a subsequent national broadcast release on PBS and Discovery Networks. The film followed four university professors during their tenure in the Japan Fellows Program and how each adapted to their work and the culture. Community Service In 2003, Spain began his work as a community activist and leader in his native-home, Raleigh, joining various urban planning groups which led to the board and eventual board president in 2006 of Friends of Dorothea Dix Park (FDDP) the first advocacy group to push for a central park for all people on the grounds of the closed Dorothea Dix Hospital in lieu of development. Teaming with Greg Poole, Jr. of the Dix Visionaries and Bill Padgett of Dix 306 and their groups and supporters, the three succeeded in working with Mayor Nancy McFarlane and the Raleigh City Council and staff in completing the acquisition of the hospital campus on July 22, 2015. Spain continues his work with the Dix Park Conservancy as a founding board member in the creation of one of the world's next great parks under the planning team of Michael Van Valkenburg & Associates (MVVA) with a final plan scheduled for release in March 2019.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayspainfilms (talk • contribs) 17:16, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

@Jayspain: Hello, this is not the place fora draft article. Please see WP:WIZ, WP:AfC and WP:YFA for help in creating content. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 17:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Further, if you have a close connection with the subject you need to read WP:COI and also WP:PAID and make any necessary disclosures. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 17:23, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

RNXS

if you were a member of rns are you entitled to be a member of war veterans for the blind,having sight problems??????is it not part of naval services??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.13.173 (talk) 18:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

This help desk is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. We can't help you with other areas of inquiry. You will need to ask whichever agency provides the benefits you are asking about. RudolfRed (talk) 20:35, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Undo page deletion

Hello, I'm a (relatively) new user and wonder if you might be able to tell me how I can undo a page deletion? The page is for Andrew Rowland. I've read the earlier Feb discussions relating to this page and think the page should be restored but I do not know how to do this. The notoriety (which I think does comply with the Wikipedia biography guidelines) comes at the very least from his elected position representing UK medical doctors as the Head of the UK Delegation to the European Union of Medical Specialists (not least because of his elected role nationally as the UK leads up to Brexit), and as a charity founder, to give just two examples. His notoriety is similar to that of Johann Malawana. How can the Andrew Rowland page be restored, please? Thank you... Sheffield Warrier (talk) 22:53, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Well, if you think the closing admin came to the wrong decision you could bring it up at deletion review but the consensus at the discussion seems pretty clear so I wouldn’t reccomend going that route. What you could do is have it recreated as a draft in your own userspace, where you can work on it to address the issues you mention and then re-submit it to article space. I can do that for you if you’d like. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Hello Beeblebrox, yes if you would be able to do that and recreate it as a draft that would be great. Can you also help me to find my userspace where you will restore this draft article to? Thank you very much. Sheffield Warrier (talk) 23:03, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

 Done. It is now at User:Sheffield Warrier/Andrew Rowland. You can use the page move tool to move it back to article space when you think it is ready. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:09, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

rollback or page deletion

Why was this page deleted instead of being just rolled back? And can the deleted page be rolled back after it was deleted? https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Garci-Gómez Minibon (talk) 22:59, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

It appears that it was deleted for copyright reasons. As to why, unfortunately, nobody here is going to be able to help you. This is the English Wikipedia's help desk. I recommend either talking to the admin that deleted it, es:User talk:Bernard, or posting on the Spanish Wikipedia's help desk: es:Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual. --Majora (talk) 23:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC)