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November 20

Glen Affric

Ref number 26 should have its IBSN number, which I cannot find. Please fix and leave in quote please. Sorry and thanks Srbernadette (talk) 00:46, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

concerned about what im looking at on wikipedia website

Hi Jason Edelman the concerned being and as _ the being .';lnjncjhsnbdchjsnbdhjbs also dont want people looking at my pages is not private . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.33.100.190 (talk) 00:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Is this about Jason Edelmann? Are you that person, and, if so, would you like to have unreferenced information removed? Dbfirs 10:37, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Finding number of deleted edits for an article

On October 27 2018, the article The Foundations of Psychoanalysis was deleted, then restored, as can be seen here. My question is whether there is some means of discovering the number of edits that had been made to the article at the time it was deleted - something which is not now apparent from its revision history. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 01:26, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

There are 570 deleted edits to that page. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 01:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Upload picture to commons

Hi. I am a user from the German Wikipedia and I am writing an article about Michael Strangelove right now. Could you please upload the photo from your English language version article into Commons so that we could use it too? That would be awesome. Best regards. --Florean Fortescue (talk) 02:55, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

• @Florean Fortescue: Done. See Wikipedia:Moving files to Commons to do it yourself next time. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 13:25, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Dancing with the Stars Season 27

It appears that the final results of Dancing with the Stars (U.S. season 27) have caused numerous vandals to make edits that shouldn't be allowed on this website? Is there anything that can done to stop this? And1987 (talk) 04:50, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@And1987: The page has been semi-protected so unregistered and very new editors are less able to disrupt it. For future reference, page protection can be requested, in cases of persistent vandalism, at WP:RFPP. Eagleash (talk) 06:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

My company page is deleted. I want to restore it.

I am part of marketing team @Subex. Subex wiki is deleted and i want to restore it. Could you help me with the process.

This is the URL: https://web.archive.org/web/20170518114448/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subex — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.65.87.66 (talk) 08:49, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Articles called Subex have been deleted eight times - maybe not all of them were about your company, but I'm sure some of them were. Judging by that, and what you have said above, it sounds as if you (like many other people) have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia - it is not a directory or advertising medium. Wikipedia can have an article about your company only if there is substantial reliably-published material about your company by people who have no connection to it. If there is such an article, it should be based almost completely on what those independent people have said. It will not be your article, and your involvement in it should be limited to making suggestions on the article's talk page. It should contain little material that comes from your company, and the company would have no part in deciding what should and shouldn't go in the article. --ColinFine (talk) 11:17, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Article Help Please

My name is Scott Larson and I am a student that is enrolled in Prague. I am enrolled in an International Economics and one of our projects for this semester was to write and publish a page on wikipedia about a topic in international economics. My wiki page project was on the Economic History of New Zealand. I have submitted and re-submitted my article a few times, due to errors on my own behalf, but the deadline for the project is coming up and I am worried that the page may not be reviewed in time. I spoke with my course instructor and he recommended I reach out to the wiki staff to ask if there was any chance my submission may be reviewed so that I may make any changes necessary to be accepted by the deadline. So, I am asking if there is any chance this might happen. Please. I appreciate your consideration. Please find the link to my page below.

Thank you very much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Economic_History_of_New_Zealand

Scottlarson96 (talk) 08:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@Scottlarson96: Wikipedia does not have a "staff"; it has volunteers. All articles draft that need review are reviewed by such volunteers, who do what they can when they can. There are thousands of drafts to review and it takes time to work through them. Someone might see your post above and take the time to review your draft, but there are no guarantees. Does your course instructor work with the Wikipedia Education program to design their lessons? 331dot (talk) 10:52, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Note: The page has been accepted and is now in mainspace (as of 09:06 UTC 20 November) Eagleash (talk) 14:45, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Artists For Trump Coalition page

Dear Wikipedia volunteers, First let me thank you for your time and effort. It is much appreciated. I have attempted to write a brief page about “Artists For Trump Coalition”. I don’t think it worked as I can’t find it on en.wikipedia.org What am I doing wrong? It’s probably better if someone else writes this brief, how do I get that to happen?

Best, Bigbillywham — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigbillywham (talk • contribs) 11:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@Bigbillywham: You seem to have created it at your user page User:Bigbillywham. There is also a version at User:72.219.247.34/sandbox. —teb728 t c 11:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

In order to have an article on Wikipedia, a subject must have received significant coverage in independent reliable sources. I can't find such coverage with Google. —teb728 t c 11:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@Bigbillywham: You asked this as the Teahouse, please only ask a question in one location. Thanks 331dot (talk) 11:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Accident

I was in an accident Saturday Afternoon in Dillon SC and my car was towed. I cannot find out who towed the car and the insurance company cannot find it. Is there a place I can get this information since a trooper called the wrecker service? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.176.232.215 (talk) 14:34, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. This is not such a question. That said, I would start by calling the police department that sent the trooper who called the wrecker service. It might help if you have a copy of the police report and/or the trooper's name. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:37, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Catalina Cruz and Catalina Cruz (politician)

Hello, helpdesk.

We have two different Catalina Cruz on WP, one is an active politician and one is a (retired, I think) pornographic actress. Would it be proper to move the later to Catalina Cruz (actress) and the former to Catalina Cruz? I'm not sure what policies and guidelines are relevant here. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:38, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

See WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for guidance. If the porn actress is more widely known, she is the primary topic, and the undisambiguated titled should be under her name. If the politician, then the primary topic should be under her name. If neither has primacy over the other, the undisambiguated title should be used as a DAB page. --Jayron32 14:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

If you believe that the pages should be moved, then go to WP:RM#CM for instructions on how to make a move request. Iffy★Chat -- 14:49, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

(ec)That's what I wanted. So:

• A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term.
• A topic is primary for a term with respect to long-term significance if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term.

This is IMO not clear-cut in this case, editors may have different views. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:52, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Page view analysis seems to favour the actress, and she has articles in 18 languages to the politician's one (which might suggest that the actress currently has more of a world-wide notability, though this may change in time). --David Biddulph (talk) 14:56, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

I was just thinking that the actress was more likely to have the bigger international fan-base. I will drop this. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

my wikipedia page has not been approved after so many months

goodday wikipedia my page has not been approved after making all possible corrections please help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davy2000 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@Davy2000: I assume you are the person the draft is about. It is basically your resume, and it will never be accepted as a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not social media to post your resume or otherwise tell the world about yourself. As such, I have deleted it as promotional. You should use actual social media to tell the world about yourself. Please read WP:AUTO before attempting to write about yourself, as well as Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 16:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

A external links is needed on the Michelangelo page which is protected

I run a website called "michelangelomodels.com" It displays the history of the clay and wax models used by Michelangelo to make his statues and paintings. It has been in the external link section of the wikipedia michelangelo page since the early days of Wikipedia. I used to keep putting it up in external links because others (wanna be art experts would take it down) My web page is a labor of love. Michelangelo is my favorite artist and art teacher. I do not advertise on the net as I cannot afford the thousands of $ for downloads it would get if I put it up on Youtube. The site exists as a resource tool for other Michelangelo students who are not aware that Michelangelo used clay and wax models to make his paintings and sculptures. The paperwork or provenance of the models is very good and goes back to Michelangelos time. I have not checked the Michelangelo page in Wikipedia for years due to a serious accident. Lately, I noticed the page is locked and the external links cannot be edited. Is there Is there some way my web page can be added to the external links?

proof that the models are by Michelangelo http://michelangelomodels.com/m-models/mproof.html

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The link info us here

external links at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelangelo

ny link:

<a href="http://michelangelomodels.com"> Models of wax and clay used by Michelangelo in making his statues and paintings</a>

Thanks john of michelangelomodels@charter.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnjohn29 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@Johnjohn29: I'm sorry, but Wikipedia articles are not for listing every possible external link about an article subject, nor is it for posting original research. This is why the link was taken down before, and will not be permitted to be added now. You seem to want to do so to promote or publicize your website, which is not permitted(see WP:PROMO). 331dot (talk) 18:38, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Yves Engler page

My edits keep getting reverted by what seems to be a biased user. I would try to take the relevant comments into account (some ignore other details), but I suspect he will revert anyway and I'm not interested in an edit war. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=869795642&oldid=869749826&title=Yves_Engler — Preceding unsigned comment added by Punkyboy (talk • contribs) 19:17, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

The best place to discuss content is at the talk page of the article. Dbfirs 19:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Creating a new page

Hello,

My name is Jessica Weidman. Is there anyway I could submit to have a page created for me? I travel overseas as a singing missionary and many of the locations that I am asked to sing at like to look me up for information on how I got into singing and offering my services for various charities. Although I hava a website and am located on Itunes and Spotify along with several other digital music websites, abroad they do not always have access to those websites due to security filters. So, I am requesting to have a page created about me. I would be happy to submit information or even create one myself but I feel that could be a conflict of interest. I would like your imput on this.

Thank you,

Jessica Weidman www.jessicaweidman.com

Jlweidman (talk) 21:16, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Jlweidman You are absolutely correct that creating one yourself would be a conflict of interest, and you should not do that. As for the rest of your post... Take a look at our criteria for when a Wikipedia aritcle about a musician is appropriate. Do you meet any or all of those critera? If so, can you point us to published sources independant of yourself that indicate you meet those criteria? If so, then let us know. On the other hand, if you don't meet any of those critera or there are no sources we can use to write the article, then it is not appropriate for us to have an article about you. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 21:25, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@Jlweidman: (edit conflict) Hello and welcome. I'm afraid that you have a common misconception as to what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not social media or other forum for users to tell the world about themselves and advance their careers. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about article subjects shown to be notable as Wikipedia defines it. As a musician, the relevant guidelines would be at WP:BAND; you would need to meet at least one of the guidelines listed there to merit a Wikipedia article. If you don't, you would not merit one.

You are quite correct that it would be a conflict of interest to write about yourself; per the autobiography policy, autobiographical articles are strongly discouraged. This is because people naturally write favorably about themselves, and not with the neutral point of view required. You can visit Requested Articles to suggest that an article be created about you, but it is severely backlogged, and even if it weren't without independent sources, there would be nothing to base an article on.

I would suggest that to do what you want to do, you would be better off investing your time in a blog or other personal website that you can use to introduce yourself and tell your story to anyone interested. I understand that Wikipedia ranks highly in search results, but frankly it has no interest in helping out anyone's career; our concern is to build a neutral encyclopedia according to our guidelines. I know I've thrown a lot at you, and I apologize, but I wished to be clear. 331dot (talk) 21:28, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Correct Citation Style for Display Boards

I'm working on a rewrite of Holy Trinity Church, Sunderland (my draft is here), and I'm uncertain on the correct way to reference a large information board which is setup outside the building? Here is an image of the board in question. It was installed and compiled by the Churches Conservation Trust, who are a reputable source, but they haven't published the information anywhere else I can find, so I'm forced to reference it directly.

Thanks, GEbb4 (talk) 22:25, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Published means made available to the public. Consider {{cite sign}}.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:42, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Exactly what I needed - thanks! GEbb4 (talk) 16:59, 21 November 2018 (UTC)