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Jikirum Adjaluddin wikipedia details/info

Jikirum Adjaluddin wikipedia details/info are partially wrong. He didn't die at young age. he even serve the country as a decorated soldier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2400:4151:8341:1D00:A125:A86C:AD31:41BF (talk) 00:04, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

if you have suggestions to improve the article, you can start a discussion on the article's talk page. There may be more than one person by that name, so perhaps the article is not about the person you have in mind. RudolfRed (talk) 00:29, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Jikirum Adjaluddin. The infobox states he died aged 26 – that seems quite young to me (though the article makes no textual comment to that effect), but is nevertheless easily old enough for him to have served militarily (though the article makes no mention of this either); my father was in action at the age of 19. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.209.123.164 (talk) 05:06, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

website loading & change the URL

I have a corporate website hosting with hostinger and now i have a lot of problem of loading website and i want to change my website URL please help me ASAP. we are helpless — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.179.161.162 (talk) 01:12, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello IP! This sounds like something you should contact Hostinger's support team for. Wikipedia cannot help you with issues not related to Wikipedia. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 01:18, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Weird talk page

I found a talk page, User talk:Tunakanski, and there's a message from someone calling the user cringe and someone replying "go fuck yourself". and apparently these users know eachother IRL or something, according to this and their user page has "weezer is ass", is this allowed on Wikipedia? --The Tips of Apmh 02:00, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@The Tips of Apmh: Personal attacks are not allowed, but if these users are using it in a friendly way then it is OK. RudolfRed (talk) 02:18, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Berney baronets

Ref number 10 should say the author's name - it is a journal. Please fix. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.23.77 (talk) 02:50, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

First, you don't say what name should be added. Second, you can fix this yourself. Add |last1=LASTNAME | first1=FIRSTNAME| into the {{Cite journal}} there (click for more details) and that will put the name in. RudolfRed (talk) 03:42, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Third, it doesn't look like a journal. GoingBatty (talk) 03:44, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Georgian help needed

I would like to write a Wikipedia article about chashushuli, a tasty Georgian dish I have eaten recently. However, I am having trouble finding any material or references about it. Neither the English or the Finnish Wikipedia has an article about it, and all Google turns up about it are recipes. I have looked at the Georgian Wikipedia's article about Georgian cuisine, but the problem is that not only do I not understand Georgian, I can't even read the alphabet. If there is even some article at the Georgian Wikipedia where the dish is mentioned I could machine-translate it to English and use that as basis for writing my own English article. Could someone point me in the right direction? JIP | Talk 03:33, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@JIP: You might try posting on the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Georgia (country). As a long shot, you might try asking Labrang, since that user's page indicates a strong interest in Georgia. I found the user by looking at contributions to the Georgia (country) article. -Arch dude (talk) 05:27, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

thanks for pinging me. I am not a cuisine storyteller really ;-). Will check some later today a book that I have if it has something more than a recipe, but background stories are hard to get by generally, @JIP. --Labrang (talk) 10:54, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, JIP. I tried searching for ჩაშუშული and ჭაშუშული (which are the most plausible transcriptions of chashushuli) in ka-wiki, but neither found anything. There's nothing with that name in ka:კატეგორია:ქართული სამზარეულო which is the Georgian counterpart to category:Cuisine of Georgia (country). The nearest is ka:ჩაქაფული which is Chakapuli. There are some subcategories I haven't looked into. --ColinFine (talk) 13:51, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

And the Georgion "Cuisine of Georgia" article is divided (as the English one is) into different regions, but the heading ქართლი (= Gerogian) has only a single paragraph, and points to a redlinked article ქართლის სამზარეულო.--ColinFine (talk) 14:45, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Edit request defcons?

Hi, just wanted to ask everyone if there exists defcons for the various types of pending edit requests the way {{Pending Changes backlog-defcon}} does? I can't find them. If they don't exist I'll consider creating one. Thanks! ---CX Zoom(^he/_him) (^{let's talk}|_contribs) 04:43, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

I havent seen any, but if you make some for Template:ESpTemplate:ECOITemplate:EEp, I would absolutely use them, I just don't know template syntaxes to make them myself. The only thing kind of ike it I think is at the admin dashboard where over a certain number will cause a red background. (courtesy ping @CX Zoom:)Happy editing--IAmChaos 19:41, 1 February 2022 (UTC) (E2A: I'm not an admin but doing Interface requests and Full requests would probably be good too, I just wont use them myself 19:43, 1 February 2022 (UTC))

Error

Afaan Oromoo Native speakers Is not 37,400,00 million .Only In Ethiopia There Are Over 50million Afaan Oromoo Native speakers are there.Oromo is the most widely spoken Cushitic language and among the five languages of Africa with the largest mother-tongue populations . Ranks Of Largest African Languages. 1. Hausa 2. Swahil.3 Afan Oromo. oromo live in Most part of African Countries, Over 50Millin live in Ethiopia, Over 30Million Oromo Live in Diffrent part of African Countries Like Kenya, South Africa,Uganda, Ruwanda,Sudan ,Egypt,Mali,Burundi, Tanzania,Somalia ,Somali Land, Djibout,as their mother land.and also live in diffrent countries in Europe ,America,Canada,Australia,Arabia In Asia,Russia For Work,to Study ,To Live and Other Case .Thanks.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.156.96.25 (talk) 11:53, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Afaan Oromoo Native speakers Is not 37,400,00 million .Only In Ethiopia There Are Over 50million Afaan Oromoo Native speakers are there.Oromo is the most widely spoken Cushitic language and among the five languages of Africa with the largest mother-tongue populations . Ranks Of Largest African Languages. 1. Hausa 2. Swahil.3 Afan Oromo. oromo live in Most part of African Countries, Over 50Millin live in Ethiopia, Over 30Million Oromo Live in Diffrent part of African Countries Like Kenya, South Africa,Uganda, Ruwanda,Sudan ,Egypt,Mali,Burundi, Tanzania,Somalia ,Somali Land, Djibout,as their mother land.and also live in diffrent countries in Europe ,America,Canada,Australia,Arabia In Asia,Russia For Work,to Study ,To Live and Other Case .Thanks.' Subject: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.156.96.25 (talk) 12:06, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

If you have suggestions to make about the article Oromo language, please make them on the talk page Talk:Oromo language. You will need to back your suggestions up with reliable sources: the numb 37.4 million is cited to what appears to be a reliable source, though it is dated 2018. --ColinFine (talk) 13:54, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Detail grade in infoboxes

Is there some general information available on how detailed the contents of an infobox should be? I thought an infobox should provide a very brief summary of a few core facts, but it might well be that extensive infoboxes are desirable - I never stumbled across any info on the "philosophy" behind infoboxes. (The trigger was the infobox in this article.) Thanks and kind regards, Grueslayer 13:15, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

I suspect that all youll find is at WP:Infoboxes, and perhaps at its talk page, Grueslayer. --ColinFine (talk) 13:55, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Grueslayer: ...and in the template documentation for each infobox. GoingBatty (talk) 14:17, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Grueslayer: In some science articles, especially for chemicals (including medicines), infoboxes can be and often are very large. This is because they deliberately contain the very many cross-references to science databases and routine properties, which if placed in the main text would make it very tedious for readers. The data in infoboxes is machine-readable because it takes a standard format, which helps search engines make the correct links. See Vitamin B12 and pyridine for examples. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:53, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! The pyridine infobox is also quite long, but for a reason as you pointed out. I found Help:Infobox#What should an infobox not contain? which reminds to keep them brief - guess I'll stick to that when using one that offers a large amount of parameters. Kind regards, Grueslayer 17:54, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

I personally just use every parameter that can apply, but that may not be a good way to go about it. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 05:28, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

IP making lots of edits to page

Hello! I came across the article Pixel art while looking through recent changes and it appears 1 IP address has been making many changes to the article. I can't tell if the edits are constructive or not because of the sheer amount of edits the IP has made which is making it hard for me to identify a good revision. Could someone help me out on this? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:46, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: I've left the IP a warning at their talk page asking they use the preview button in the future. Aside from that, there is not best way to check for good or bad edits in situations like this besides comparing how the article was before they begun working on it and how it is now, and verifying what was changed. From a quick glance, it's mostly the software list being refactored. It's for editors to choose whether that refactoring is constructive or disruptive to the article, and discuss in the talk page if needed. Isabelle ^🔔 16:00, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Isabelle Belato: Alright thank you! Situations like this always bother me because it makes determining the good edits harder because so many of the recent edits have been made by a single user, sometimes with other users intermixed making it even harder. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:02, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf:: I know nothing about the topic either but the edits appear constructive. The Preview suggestion is good because some of the edits are corrections that could be avoided with visual proofing. Then again, is the IP going to check his/her Talk page? Worth another look in a day or so. Allreet (talk) 05:27, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

How to edit a already created page using the sandbox feature and not directly editing.

I would like to edit the Jacobi medical center page but i am inexperienced and would instead like to edit it under sandbox before actually editing it. Megabits13 (talk) 15:50, 1 February 2022 (UTC)Megabits13

Megabits13 If you would like, you may simply propose what you wish to do on the article talk page. If you would like to do it yourself, you can copy and paste the text into your sandbox and then practice editing it. If you make a mistake in editing the actual article, do not feel bad; it can be easily reversed. 331dot (talk) 16:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Megabits13. If you want to test your edits to an article, you can either directly edit it and use the preview button to see how it looks before saving or, if you plan on working on it for a longer period of time, you can always copy and paste the content to a personal sandbox (usually at Special:Mypage/sandbox), where you can edit freely. After you are done with your sandbox, apply those changes to the article at main space, taking care not to undo any new edits that might've been made to it in the meantime. Isabelle ^🔔 16:08, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Megabits13 (talk) 17:50, 1 February 2022 (UTC)Megabits13

Article George Sargent (businessman) has been distroyed

According to George Sargent George Sargent (businessman) (1859–1921) is an Australian businessman, obviously ist is this person. But the article has been umformulatet beginning with this edit, now it is an radio announcer born (or active since) 2001. That should be corrected. -- Jesi (talk) 16:30, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

I've returned the article to the state it was previously in. The recent edits have been undone. --Jayron32 16:35, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. -- Jesi (talk) 16:44, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

how to update my information

how to update my information

Azeem Dar Is An International Artist Based In Dubai, Singer, Actor, Event Planner & Media Personality, As Well As A Great Businessmen Story Of Young Energetic Personality, Pronounce His Name As Brand Azeem Dar Group, Azeem” has started his showbiz career from childhood belongs to very well-known Showbiz Family, He is Nephew Of Famous Pakistan Television Director Rashid Dar, He has work with Hollywood Bollywood Pakistani & Arab Celebrities, Azeem Dar” First Music Album Mammy Daddy Bachay Coming Sooon. And Many Other worldwide Live Concert are Line-up Stayed Tone To His Social Media Platform, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azeemdaar (talk • contribs) 16:31, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for this Azeemdaar, but you should be aware that Wikipedia is not a social networking site or other means of promoting yourself. You may use your user page for giving basic personal information about yourself, but in the main article space, people should not post their own personal information. --Jayron32 16:33, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Azeemdaar: Also, you should not hijack the existing article about the cricketer Azeem Dar by replacing it with information about you. GoingBatty (talk) 16:45, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Is this block evasion, seeing as they were blocked for the above? - X201 (talk) 16:50, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@X201: I just opened Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Azeemdargroup - hope that was the right way to report this. GoingBatty (talk) 16:56, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Creating a page

Hello! I was wondering how to make a Wikipedia page. If you could redirect me to where I can create a Wikipedia page that would be great. Thank you! Have a good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UsernameUnnamed (talk • contribs) 17:28, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, UsernameUnnamed. Please read Your first article. It is quite challenging for a new editor to create an acceptable article, so be careful to follow the policies and guidelines. Cullen328 (talk) 17:37, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

User has been blocked as a vandalism only account. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:35, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Restoration

I was creating a page, and it self reloaded, causing my edits to be lost. Is there anyway to restore this? Hcoder3104 (talk) 17:50, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Hcoder3104: Hi there! Unless you can use the back arrow in your browser to get back to it, then it's lost for good. I suggest making small incremental changes in the future. GoingBatty (talk) 19:40, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Hcoder3104: Something that I do is to frequently copy the whole text, you can then either paste it somewhere else (like a notepad file) or, if you have the windows clipboard function on, it gets automatically saved. Isabelle ^🔔 22:09, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Unsolicited welcome for joining Malay Wikipedia

This morning I got an email that pointed me to a note on my talk page that said, "Thanks for joining Malay Wikipedia". While I have a personal interest in Malaysia, I do not recall explicitly joining anything other than en.wikipedia.org. I don't even know if there's really a difference between Wikipedia sites, in terms of identity and access management. I am suspicious, however, to have randomly received this message. Any idea of what might be going on? Jyg (talk) 18:12, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Jyg: My guess is that you had simply visited the main page of Malay Wikipedia and since you were logged in it gave you a welcome message since it was the first time you had visited Malay Wikipedia. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:13, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Jyg: Your login information will work on any Wikimedia Foundation project; other language versions of Wikipedia, Wikitionary, and so on. As Blaze Wolf correctly notes, any brief contact with another project might trigger such a message. It's normal. 331dot (talk) 18:17, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Jyg: Special:CentralAuth/Jyg shows your Malay Wikipedia account was created 27 May 2021, probably because you viewed a page while logged in. Today a bot posted a welcome message to your talk page and thousands of others even though you have no edits there (meta:Welcoming policy is a proposal by me to disallow that). This triggers an email notification if it's enabled at your Malay preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:33, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks to all of you for putting my mind at ease, that this wasn't some bad actor activity. Jyg (talk) 02:24, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh, super helpful. I wondered why I got an unexpected Malay email but hadn't dug into it. Star Mississippi 02:18, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

A Night at Switch n' Play director

I have been asked to prove I am the director of a film in order to request changes to the wikipedia page. How do I prove who I am?

Crs363 (talk) 19:20, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Crs363 Your edit history has no edits aside from this one, and I don't see any such questions of anyone at Talk:A Night at Switch n' Play; where were you asked this? 331dot (talk) 19:26, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

If you claim to be a specific notable person, you can request verification of your identity through our Volunteer Response Team. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:29, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

They have raised a concern that the descriptions that were used in A Night at Switch n' Play were possibly offensive, or incorrect summations of the performers' gender identities. As of now, I've removed the descriptions from cast members as an interim solution. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:30, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

I am only notable in that I directed the film. This is the talk page where I was asked. User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish#A Night at Switch' n Play Here is the specific quote "you could make an account and reach out to WP:OTRS to prove, at least, that you're the director, at which point it's possible we can take you at your word that there we're describing the individuals offensively." Crs363 (talk) 19:34, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Format Company Pages

I noticed some company pages have a "controversies" section while others don't. The same section is sometimes called "litigation" or "lawsuits". Would it be acceptable to rename those sections to "controversies" or "controversies and criticism"? People would then be able to add cases not involving litigation on every page, avoiding confusion and discrimination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:8B17:1B00:A9CC:145E:BE9C:4C61 (talk) 20:58, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. The consensus, I believe is not have a "controversies" section in any article, whether it is about a company or anything else. See WP:Controversy sections. --ColinFine (talk) 22:01, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

The addition of routine lawsuits is often a tell of a competitor trying to make a rival look bad. WP:UNDUE addresses this. I've also seen disgruntled customers angry after a bad customer service experience, and try to add negative info about the event as a "controversy". A single incident does not a pattern make, so keep an eye out for those types of edits also. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Lawsuits against companies may have nothing whatsoever to do with their competition, for example, product liability suits by consumers or civil suits filed by the government. While the reliability of sources is one question, we also have to be concerned about the motivations of editors who could have their own axes to grind, since just about every large company has faced litigation of some sort. WP:UNDUE/WP:NPOV doesn't really help in certain ways. For example, news media may report cases (providing us with sources) but their stories tend to "go away" for all but the most egregious of cases. By contrast, what we publish becomes relatively permanent, since on our pages notability does not diminish with time. I have no answers to any of that other than such things need to be considered. Allreet (talk) 01:19, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm still very confused. Let me try and clarify using examples:

https://www.latimes.com/food/sns-dailymeal-1868348-drink-monster-energy-sued-by-former-employees-over-harassment-claims-012618-20180126-story.html

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2020/10/15/netflix-cuties-controversy-texas-indictment-what-happens-now/3645613001/

https://www.courthousenews.com/mcgraw-hill-sued-over-sps-fall-from-grace/ (Article concerns McGraw Hill's role in the financial crisis. Company is now named S&P Global Inc)

Which of these should never appear on a company page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:8B17:1B00:F94B:E88E:C341:2365 (talk) 19:34, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Format Company Pages 2

Would it be appropriate to either add or edit a "controversies" section if you avoid the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations#The_article_on_me/my_organization_is_an_attack._What_can_I_do?

Or is it more appropriate to add such sections as "litigation"? I'm not sure what that would mean for large sections on the Apple, Mastercard, and Visa pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:8B17:1B00:7CDC:4F13:84D8:8E87 (talk) 12:26, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

IP WhoIs location changed?

Hello! I recently came across an IP who had the shared IP edu template saying the IP is from the University of Nebraska (which I had previously changed to be UNL only to realize that's most likely incorrect, but it was originally non-specific) which was added by a user who has since passed away. I took a look at the WhoIs and it appears to have changed to be a different location (didn't necessarily say it was school district but looking at another IP from a school in Nebraska the provider appears to be a school internet provider), however this is the first time I've seen an IP being changed to a different location. Is this something that can happen or would it most likely just be a mistake from the now-deceased user who added the template? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 21:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: It can happen. Blocks of IP addresses can get reassigned to different companies or ISPs. Also, Geolocation is an imperfect art. See Internet_geolocation#Errors. An extreme example is 600 million IP addresses that were "relocated" to a farm in Kansas. RudolfRed (talk) 23:16, 1 February 2022 (UTC)