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February 25

Vandalism help request from 2601:192:4E00:4100:5909:32B3:1C84:8E85

I have noticed some vandalism at [[1]]. Namely, the passage in the introduction that reads "All VIRGINIANs’ think (If they were allowed to think) that opposites attract. That is socially prison. No, opposites do not attract. Thus the Limits of VIRGINIA war or peace." and the passage in the Jeanes Hospital section that reads "What is the next move after the Episcopalian Church eliminates everything Jesus Christ could be? The Government only authorizes Jews and Episcopalian’s for Religion. KJV John 19". Would an editor please assist me with fixing/removing these passages? Thank you, 2601:192:4E00:4100:5909:32B3:1C84:8E85 (talk) 00:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Removed it, thanks for letting us know -- TNT (talk • she/her) 00:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

including tables

There is discussion above about edit links, which came do to testing of included tables. So far, I only have table includes in my sandbox, but would like to put them into some articles. The tables are computer generated, and should not be edited. Is there somewhere discussion or help pages on table inclusion? For one, where the tables should go? Gah4 (talk) 02:52, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Gah4: Table transclusion works like any other transclusion so I'm not sure which help you want. If tables are transcluded into articles then they should be in templates. There are ways to store multiple tables in the same template and only transclude a selected table. See Help:Labeled section transclusion for one way. Above I wrote: "If a transcluded page has section headings then they are included but the section edit link goes to the transcluded page with the section code". You can avoid such section edit links by outputting the section header with a parser function, e.g.: {{#if:1|== Section heading ==}}. The section edit link will also be omitted on the transcluded page. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

One question is where the transcluded tables go. I found out once, unrelated to tables, not to put subpages in main space, otherwise that would be my first thought. Mostly I am wondering about conventions that people use and expect. Gah4 (talk) 07:20, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Not that I am in a hurry, but any thoughts on this one? 06:44, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

How to create page on wikipedia

I would like to ask assistance how to edit the page i am working on since it is my first time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mariatisha/sandbox Title: Adana Mam-Legros

I want to add links for references, also how can I add the references in the paragraph. Mariatisha (talk) 02:53, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Mariatisha, User:Mariatisha/sandbox already has references within its paragraphs. And every one of these references has a link (or anyway something looking like a link; I haven't clicked on most of them). What do you need to know? ¶ One problem is apparent: although your opening paragraph ends with a reference to this web page, the web page doesn't back up anything that's been said. (Perhaps pages linked from it do. If so, you should link to these.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't think the article needs an external reference (link) to the front page of the subject's Instagram account or Facebook account... 73.127.147.187 (talk) 06:26, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Why is my added alt= not taking?

The alt= I tried to add to this picture isn't taking, and I can't figure out why after maybe 30 minutes RTFMing: the syntax ||Wikipedia:Extended_image_syntax#Alt_text_and_caption|looks right to me]] but the inspect tools in Chromium and Firefox both still show an empty alt=. The two possible reasons I can think of are alt text length (does Wikipedia have a limit on that?) and a Wikipedia-internal cache (clearing cache didn't help in either browser). Is there something else, maybe obvious to others, that I'm missing? The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 11:59, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Shows up for me. How are you attempting to show the alt - a screen reader? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:20, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

[2] shows it. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Interesting. It shows up for me now. I'm not sure why it didn't before in either browser I tried. (And no, I used the Inspect context menus on the image. They've served me well in the past.) Thanks. The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 22:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Watchlist interface

Is it just for me or did the watchlist interface change for everyone? ---CX Zoom(^he/_him) (^{let's talk}|_contribs) 13:47, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@CX Zoom: It didn't for me but several settings at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rc and Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist can influence it. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

What do I do if someone keeps adding edits that are unconstructive even though I reverted them and reverts my reverts (and if that person doesn't follow WP:BRD)

There's this editor who are adding good-faith, but unconstructive edits (not improving the article) and when I reverted them I had a discussion with him/her on the talk page but that editor still keeps reverting my reverts even though no consensus has been reached. What do I do? It's not vandalism so I can't report them.

This also happened before where some editor kept replacing an infobox image with one they personally like and reverted anyone who reversed it back to the original. That editor who replaced the image didn't have a consensus and there was an edit war going on. Ak-eater06 (talk) 14:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

If someone isn't willing to discuss, then you can leave warnings on their talk page. Remember that WP:3RR is a thing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

User:Lee Vilenski they are discussing but at the same time reverting my reverts. Ak-eater06 (talk) 14:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Stick to WP:3RR, get some visability on the discussion. If they are talking, then getting more users to gain a stronger consensus is the way forward. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

User:Lee Vilenski should I just list the discussion as an RfC? Ak-eater06 (talk) 19:47, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Air Force Bases in the US

You left out Minot Air Force Base in Minot, ND — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.31.218.189 (talk) 16:26, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

It is included in List of United States Air Force installations and List of United States military bases perhaps give us a clue if you have been looking somewhere else. MilborneOne (talk) 16:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

And it's had its own article since 2002. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.209.121.1 (talk) 17:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Unable to upload image from eng wiki to czech wiki

Hello, I'd like to translate a video game wiki article to my native language wikipedia, however they have an infobox cover, which I am unable to replicate - the File:cover-art.jpg cannot be found.

The english article with the cover art mentioned is here: Video Game [Cover Art]

If possible, how can I upload the cover art to my native language wiki infobox? I thought it had to do something with copyright, but if it exists on one wiki page, why couldn't I do it on my native one? Especially if I am allowed to use instead other similar content from said video game art?

Native language wiki article about said game — Preceding unsigned comment added by S3M1CZ (talk • contribs) 20:38, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@S3M1CZ: The image File:Hearts of Iron IV packshot.jpg is on the English-Language Wikipedia and has a {{Non-free use rationale video game cover}} to explain why it is okay to use this copyrighted, non-free image on the English-Language Wikipedia article for Hearts of Iron IV because of fair use. Czech Wikipedia doesn't allow fair use exceptions because of how Czech copyright works. See cs:Nápověda:Fair use. Umimmak (talk) 20:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@S3M1CZ: Looking at other Czech-language Wikipedia articles about video games it seems like the common thing is to use an image of just the text of the logo, so you could use Commons:File:Hoi4-logo.png. Umimmak (talk) 21:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Each Wikimedia Project can only use media which has been locally uploaded to that specific project, or which has been uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia Commons does not allow "fair use", and since the czech Wikipedia doesn't appear to allow fair use either, I am afraid you cannot use this file there. Victor Schmidt (talk) 21:00, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

When entering coordinates for something in an article, which is preferred - degrees/minutes/seconds or decimal degrees? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 23:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Bubba73: {{Coord}} allows both and MOS:COORD also says both can be used, so I think either works depending on how you're getting the coordinates (though {{Coord}} also allows conversion). You might also want to look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates for guidance. Umimmak (talk) 00:10, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I prefer decimal degrees because they are more efficient as far as accuracy, and I'd rather enter decimal degrees into a GPS. degrees/minutes/seconds seems so archaic. About a day ago I made a change at Milam Residence from D/M/S to digital degrees to get it right on the house. It was reverted to D/M/S today. I got the coordinates by moving a marker around on a satellite view, and it gives decimal degrees. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 01:21, 26 February 2022 (UTC)