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March 10

Regarding Creating a Wikipedia Page for Great Learning

Hi,

I have seen that for most of the brands you have created a wiki page and similarly I want to create a wiki page for my company Great Learning. It is an ed tech company like coursera and simplilearn and dealing in the same business. Kindly let me know how we can proceed here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.36.182.129 (talk) 06:21, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

There have been two articles (not "pages") titled Great Learning, and both have been deleted for not being notable. Here are the discussions: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Great Learning (company) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Great Learning (Company). You might have more luck adding a little more info to Byju's#Acquisitions, where the notability threshold isn't as high. You only need one source for each item you add to an existing article. But keep in mind that if you include info about Great Learning, it won't look right unless someone also balances it out by adding info about Byju's other acquisitions. Also, with regards to the other EdTech articles, see WP:OTHERSTUFF. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 07:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Публикация

Добрый день , раннее внесены все поправки на публикацию статьи.Опубликуйте пожалуйста статью, которая находится на моем личном кабинете. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ratatuy777 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratatuy777 (talk • contribs) 07:19, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ratatuy777:Я не вижу никаких материалов от вас. Возможно, вы ошиблись энциклопедией. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 07:43, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia search engine

I am a writer, particularly in the field of history and politics. Of course I do a lot of research on the web. My researches normally start with simple questions asked on google. I notice - as everyone I suppose - a progressive deterioration in the quality of Google responses. Content of answers is mostly driven by advertising, answers are often totally misleading, nothing to do with your request. You have to waste a terrific amount of time and patience before getting to something really pertinent to the problem you are searching on. If you are lucky you end up finding exactly the info you were looking for. Why does it take so many steps to get to it? I suspect that money plays an important role in the poor performance of Google. Before being a search engine, Google is a money machine. Of course Wikipedia has its own search engine which is not influenced by money, but its capacity to answer complex questions is zero, despite the fact that somewhere you have often the anwer. Improving your search engine could be good business? I would be willing to pay for a better service. It would be more than natural paying a fixed yearly fee to Wikipedia, which is what I already do voluntarily. Best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.53.234.62 (talk) 11:29, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia's search bar is not meant as an internet-wide search engine to answer questions, but a way to locate particular articles(or other pages) here on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is in the encyclopedia business, not the search engine business. 331dot (talk) 11:37, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Wasn't there a WMF-project about making a search-engine at some point though? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:05, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

The Wikipedia active editor community basically stomped that idea flat, after the WMF wasted an incredible amount of money exploring the possibility. The community's almost unanimous conclusion was that a search engine was not what we needed to focus our time and programmer energy on, and not just because we'd be competing with some of the richest corporations on this planet. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:54, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

You could create an account and work towards extended confirmed user rights to become eligible for access to the Wikipedia Library, which offers access to partnered databases. Wikipedia's search features are dependent on the quality of articles, which, as a user-generated site, may not always be what you're looking for. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

You might also like to try out the various Wikipedia reference desks, listed at WP:RD. I can't speak for the Humanities one but the science one to which I and many other volunteers contribute is a pretty helpful place for questions asked by researchers who are genuinely interested in a topic. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:45, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Ruth Fraser MBE

I would like to start a biography page regarding Jean Ruthven Fraser MBE.

She was the first manager of the Red Cross Blood Collection Centre in 1967, reporting to the management committee daily at first , weekly then monthly. She organised the collection of blood, donor recruitment and forward planning of mobile unit visits.

Initially, the management committee thought the collection centre would be staffed by volunteers. It became apparent very quickly and Ruth had to advise the management committee a more formal structure was the only way forward and insisted that everyone should be paid as if they were employed in a civil servant basis.

Each step was a new begining.

The original management committee were:

Run Run Shaw Margaret Castles And others

The original staff were :

Ruth Fraser - SRN - collection centre manager. Mo Bailey - SRN - mobile unit in charge . Dorothy - SRN - mobile unit in charge.

Hermine - Secretary to Ruth Fraser

Vallery Hoffer - Donor Recruitment Pat Arculli - Donor Recruitment

In the begining she sent out mobile units to British and Austrailian Ships in the harbour by hiring Chinese Lighters , little San-pan vessels, and knock on the side of the ships asking them if they could come and collect blood. Ruth and her staff didn't have access to phone numbers or shore agents offices. It was all on an adhoc basis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by All-is-History (talk • contribs) 12:44, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@All-is-History: You're going to really want to read WP:YFA, and find reliable sources (especially those that establish notability as Wikipedia defines it) to get a good starting point for a draft. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:08, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia IP Address revelation to public.

So I was trying to check out Wikipedia, and accidently ended up editing a page (I have never edited on Wikipedia and don't plan to do so) without intent, and as far as I remember I think I made absolutely no change to the page, and then ended up closing the edit page, I am not sure if my IP address was public but out of fear I ended up signing in to avoid revelation to public, I received up to 3 messages by admins about declining my wish to (accidently) edit. Now I don't know if my IP address is public but kindly help me, if it is indeed public I hope it can get suppressed forever too. Please resolve my problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ANH Anakin (talk • contribs) 14:25, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia recently removed IP addresses from being displayed to the public, with only certain users being able to see them (such as administrators). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:49, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

ANH Anakin (talk) 14:53, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

You may contact an oversighter, instructions at WP:OVERSIGHT. 331dot (talk) 14:55, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

When you are not logged in to your account then your IP address is recorded publicly next to every edit you make. There is a masking feature coming but AFAIK it hasn't been implemented yet. If you are logged in, then your IP address is recorded in a private log that only a small set of trusted users have access to, and those users have to sign an agreement that they will not disclose that information. There does not seem to be a public link between this account and your IP address right now, but if you are concerned about someone finding it then yes, you should contact oversight - they can remove your IP address from public view. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 15:32, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

[1] link content

How to make [1] link content? 47.234.198.142 (talk) 15:18, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

If you write your link between a single set of square braces, mediawiki will render it as an external link, like so: [https://some.web.site] becomes [1]. If you want the text of the link to be something other than a number, write it after the link inside the braces, like this: [https://some.other.site This is a link!] = This is a link!. You can experiment with this in the sandbox, but before you add any links to articles please familiarize yourself with our external links guideline; most of the time external links should not be in articles at all. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 15:25, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

You may also be looking for how to make citations. Something like <ref>{{cite web |last1=Blah |first1=Blah |title=Best Source Ever |url=www.bestsourceever.com |website=Awesome Website |access-date=10 March 2022}}</ref> will produce this:~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:33, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

References

~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:33, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Fixed {{reflist talk}}

The error message in your example because cs1|2 templates require properly formatted urls in |url=. In this case, |url=www.bestsourceever.com is missing the scheme (typically http:// or https://. When demonstrating external links or cs1|2 template linking to someplace, http://www.example.com is a good place to link.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:53, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Moving a supposedly public-domain image to Commons

Hi everyone,

I'd like to move this (or a PNG version of it):

 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Signatureprogram.gif>

to Commons but, after reading

 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Moving_files_to_Commons>,

I'm not sure what to do. Reasonably, the person who uploaded it is its author, and released it into the public domain. But how am I supposed to verify that? —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 15:50, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Gennaro Prota: I'm not sure how to answer your question in the general case. In this specific case, I do not believe that this content rises to the level of creativity as to be copyrightable in the first place, except for the actual Windows window which is not the "author's" work anyway. For this specific case, I recommend you create a new image yourself by running the C program and capturing the output somehow (maybe as a text block in an SVG file) and then releasing the result as your own work. -Arch dude (talk) 16:49, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Gennaro Prota: here is my first third attempt. I will fix it up after two fixups:

Sierpinski triangle signature program output

@Arch dude: Thanks. In fact, you made me realize that we don't need an image at all (how did I miss this?). I'm sorry you spent time on it, but it seems that the best solution is to just insert the program output as preformatted text and request deletion of both your image and the one I was asking about. What do you think? —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 15:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Gennaro Prota: If you just add the ASCII art inline, you can and should remove the existing file from the English encyclopedia as its copyright is slightly sketchy. There is no need to remove my little effort from Commons: it can just sit there with no harm done. As to the effort, if I were not having fun I would not have done it. -Arch dude (talk) 16:16, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Arch dude: That makes sense :-). I'll do as you suggest. Thanks. —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 14:54, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Done, now. See:

- Signature program (replaced image with inline text)

- File:Signatureprogram.gif (proposed image for deletion)

Thanks again. —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 15:41, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Image keeps being pushed down

Created/editing the page Omameda Towako and Her Three Ex-Husbands. Uploaded the poster (fair use, checked) with the purpose of it being in the cast section, but the infobox keeps pushing it to the external links. Is there a way to fix this? --FreeChurros (talk) 17:59, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Try moving the picture to the left (put left instead of right in the template), then put {{clear left}} after the picture. Does that create a good result? --Verbarson ^talk_edits 20:19, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Puts it on top of the cast list but the placement still feels a bit awkward. --FreeChurros (talk) 20:37, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@FreeChurros: I used {{stack}} to fix the placement. GoingBatty (talk) 21:47, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Merge

How does one go about proposing an article merge? I'm seeking to merge the little content found here: Jules Podell and the similar content covered here: Copacabana. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 18:39, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

I think you can read WP:Merge. Ruslik_Zero 19:53, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

How to publish an article?

Hello I just finished an article about a publisher from Vermont. I believe i followed all the rules, but would welcome feedback. But the article does not show up in a search. What did i do wrong?

Thank you for any help. The article is “Suzanne Gillis” Shari — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shariba (talk • contribs) 22:05, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

The article does not "show up" because it is not an article. You have created it in your own user page, User:Shariba. Your user page is not intended for use as an article, but for information about yourself, as relevant to your editing activities in Wikipedia. I suggest that you move its content (apart from the "paid editor" disclosure at the top) to a draft with a suitable title; or it you don't know how to do that, ask someone here to do it for you. Maproom (talk) 22:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Comment - article is now at Suzanne (Sue) Gillis. GoingBatty (talk) 02:15, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Own profile

I need to make my own profile on my name in wikipedia as a social worker. I don't know how to make my own page and what documents will need to upload, Please let me know all about.

Thanks and Regards. Raj Muqeet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raj Muqeet 21 (talk • contribs) 23:41, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Raj Muqeet 21: I am rather concerned that you "need" to have a page on yourself here. Wikipedia is not a directory and the encyclopedia has no interest in an article on you if you are not notable by its definition. Your purposes would be best fulfilled on a social networking site like LinkedIn. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:43, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Raj Muqeet 21: Unless you've been written about extensively in the media for your work, it's unlikely you will have enough sources to demonstrate notability. It's also very hard to actually write a good article that will be approved. The LinkedIn advice above will save you time and frustration. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:38, 11 March 2022 (UTC)