User talk:Maineartists

Well. I'm back bitches! Someone hacked my account after 7 years editing. It was just my time I guess. Here we go again! I've got a lot of edits ready for contribution! and they're off! Maineartists (talk) 22:52, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back

A belated welcome back to Wikipedia. Clearly you know what you're doing, so I won't give you the Wiki for Dummies stuff. Hope you stick around this time.

For full disclosure, I would suggest that you post your former username on your user page. If it's compromised, like you mentioned, we should probably get it blocked if it isn't already, just to be sure.

Thanks, Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

• Hi, Oiyarbepsy! Thanks for your kind welcome back. I was discouraged there for a while but I gathered the troops and got back on the horse as they say.

Thank you for recommending that I disclose my former username but I'm almost 100% sure that it has been blocked already as I went through a rigorous ordeal for weeks afterwards. I type it in on occasion just to be sure it has never come up since. I don't know if it was a fluke during the time when a bunch of other users were hacked or if I may have upset someone on here. Either way I'd like not to associate my new username with the old. Just to be safe.

Peace! Maineartists (talk) 02:43, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Lois Wright article

Hi, thank you for your kind words. And thank you for all your work on that article. Creating a new article is no easy task, and you've done a beautiful job. A few responses to what you wrote on my page:

• "central character in the lives of the Beales at Grey Gardens" still seems overly wordy and vague. Would "close friend" or "caretaker" be appropriate? How is this relationship described in the articles cited?

• I changed "hosts her own local cable show" to "hosts a television show", as LTV is described as "East Hampton LTV cable access". If LTV is described once, I didn't see a need to repeat the description in the show.

• "The Old West" versus "American frontier" – I changed this because there's an article about the American frontier to which Old West redirects, but I'll change it back if the 2 aren't actually equivalent.

Additional thoughts:

• External links: Internet Movie Database is not considered reliable (WP:CITINGIMDB), and some of these links aren't specific to the subject of the article. Is there a reason we should keep them?
• Infobox: Is the AAEH link in the infobox an official website? IMDb lists "loiswright.net" as her official site, and that is not linked in the article at all.

WikkanWitch (talk) 14:13, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

• Dear WikkanWitch. Oh, you are wonderful! Yes, "close friend" would be perfect, as all articles, books, magazines, and related coverage support this claim since her mother and "Big Edie" were long life friends, and Lois knew them since she was a teenager. (would you mind changing this?) Brilliant regarding the LTV sentence, and as well with the American Frontier, once I clicked on it, I saw immediately your genius in linking the two.

• Regarding the additional thought: absolutely. I just see linked on so many others that I just assume it normal external. Please remove. You are right. 100% as well with the AAEH. Absolutely. I'm so glad there are amazing Wiki editors like you to correct all the errors of contributors like me. Thanks so much!

maineartists (talk) 12:24, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

• Dear WikkanWitch

Absolutely incredible! Your edits and additions are simply marvelous. Thank you so much for cleaning up this article. I'm so happy that you were there to help. I love what you have brought it up to be in such a short time. Just a quick question: did you mean this grammatical sentence change:

"Wright is shown to be a close friend the Beales at Grey Gardens"

It seems as though there is a word missing. It may just be me. Again. Thank you so much.

maineartists (talk) 09:12, 02 October 2014 (UTC)

Good eye! I just fixed that. For small copyedits, always feel free to edit the article directly without consulting the other editors. Also I guess we should probably be using the article's Talk page instead of this one! But I think we accomplished something good here!

WikkanWitch (talk) 14:15, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Harry Warren

Hi. Thanks for the discussion there. Do you know of any of Warren's songs that do not have their own articles but really ought to? If you can find any good sources that say that the songs are of particular interest, importance or popularity, I would be happy to help you write an article about them. Let me know on my talk page if/when you want to get started on one. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:41, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

You know much more about Warren than I do, so I heartily approve your list of songs. When you begin working on the articles, let me know, and I will be happy to help out by proofreading, helping with formatting, etc. If you have not started a new article before, one way to do it is to copy all the formatting for an existing article like this one into a new article, and then keep the structure, but replace all the information with the new information about the new topic. As for adding something about the piano vignettes, yes, absolutely! Just make sure that you cite a published source for the information. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:49, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Were the vignettes all released at once on one album? What year? Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Ssilvers The first LP was released in 1975 on Antilles - not Four Jays - with pianist Hugh Delain and included titles that were not recorded by Warren later released in 1990 (cassette) and then again in 2006 and 2008 on CD with entirely different titles. It is unclear when he wrote them all since by 1975 there were only 12 recorded; then by 1990 we have the rest (without the 1975 titles) recorded by Warren himself, which suggest he wrote them continuously throughout his lifetime - before and after the 1960s. See: http://www.discogs.com/Harry-Warren-Harry-Warrens-Piano-Vignettes/release/5272156 Unfortunately, there just isn't enough Copyright material or Biographical resources enough to really pinpoint these pieces. I think we may need to reword the edited contribution as it stands now. Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 4:27, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

OK, I took a stab at it. See if I've got it right now. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:27, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Nailed it! Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 5:09, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Harry Warren it is Rose Bulma how are you doing

Rose Bulma (talk) 15:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For starting Lois Wright and thus helping ensure Wikipedia covers Grey Gardens properly. You can always take this barnstar off and use it as a cape. I think this is the best costume for today. —Tom Morris (talk) 14:31, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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Lydia Cornell

Leave dead links, flag them with template:dead link See wp:KDL (Keep dead links) Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 03:40, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

• Jim1138 Thank you for your suggestion. I would have appreciated the suggestion with a bit of time to comply with your request before your revert; or perhaps even your own assistance in reinstating the few removed dead links with the assigned templates. Since the time involved correcting the grammatical errors and checking the links was extensive. Perhaps next time a little leeway and understanding would be more helpful rather than a drive by revert. Still, I appreciate the direction. Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 04:23, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate your willingness to follow through. I primarily do wp:RCP. I see a number editing issues. I tried making requests to the editors to fix their edits and made notes the event. Later checking back, I found that the vast majority (80%+) did not reply nor make any changes. So, I rather gave up on that. I usually just revert with an edit summary. I tell people if they ask or complain that they can always undo my edit through the wp:page history. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 09:10, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Jim1138 for your candidness and honesty. I appreciate that. I do follow through however and will devote my time in learning how to better edit through my mistakes. I believe in the grammatical issues with this article and will apply the dead link template where needed upon going back in. Thanks again. Maineartists (talk) 12:47, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

I came here to comment on the same edits. I'll only add that that first edit changed content substantially - enough to make the edit-summary seem a misrepresentation. Especially with biographical information, it is important to identify large deletions and additions of content. --Ronz (talk) 17:41, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Ronz I see (and understand) that now. I should have addressed those issues on the talk page first and listed all discrepancies with the sources and inline quotes first before removing poorly reported biographical information. My apologies. Once again, it always serves as a penny saved (penny earned) when a well knowledged editor drives by and assists a "still-learning" editor with words of wisdom. Thanks! That being said, those references have issues. I hope to improve them. Best, Maineartists (talk) 02:43, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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The source of the photo states that they were performing Haydn's Toy Symphony and that is why I added it to that article. Please see the Strand Magazine of November 1897

Part of an article published in 1897 about a group of musicians performing the Toy Symphony

GinnevraDubois (talk) 02:23, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

GinnevraDubois The article is incorrect. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] The instruments shown are not those in the "Haydn" version, but in the Romberg. Famous sketch: [6] Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 02:42, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Recent edit to Rip Taylor

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Materialscientist Thank you for your "template message". I assume that your removal was done in haste as a drive-by edit. Please refer to the talk page discussion that references 3 cited sources for inclusion here: Spouse of Rip Taylor. Please choose one of these (or all three) that you deem reliable, and reinstate the inclusion; since I am new to Wikipedia and obviously still need help in the simplicity of providing inline citations. Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 16:25, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

For the cupcake! Eagleash (talk) 00:31, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

December 2016

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Maineartists", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it seems to be that of a group. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing this form, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 19:46, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

331dot Thanks so much for pointing this out! Although I am far from "new" to WP, I understand the template. That being said: I actually never thought of it before and never had an issue with the name before your noticing. I appreciate the connection you have made with the plural. Ironic, since I am not an artist myself (although I wish I was!). My initial choice for the username was for my original use of WP, which was to create, edit and better resource article that relates to Maine within the Arts. However, my attention was diverted to other categories and interests, and the name no longer applies. I am reticent to change it and start over, since it has never posed a problem. However, if you think it appropriate, I certainly will heed your advice and look into the process. I welcome further comments and suggestions. Best. Maineartists (talk) 00:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Since you state the name is not that of an actual group, it probably is not terribly problematic. The only issue then would be that the plural suggests shared usage- which you clearly state is not the case in actuality. You probably don't need to immediately change your name given this statement, though I might think about doing so in the future. I assure you I will not speak any more of this; just something to keep in mind. Best wishes to you. 331dot (talk) 00:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

@331dot:Thank you. I seriously never gave it a second thought, but honestly: now that you have brought it to my attention I should have seen it far long before I chose it for a username! (Good eye!) How foolish of me! again, I thank you for pointing this out. If another editor at WP should bring this to my attention, I will change it without a second thought. Best. Maineartists (talk) 01:51, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

I know that I am super late and apologize for being that guy, but could we possibly consider changing the username? I agree that this is more of a borderline case given what you have said above, but do still think that changing it is probably best to avoid any potential username related blocks. I can help you change it as I am actually a global renamer & am happy to help you do so. I came across this as your username is listed in Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues due to the above template. With all of this said, I truly do thank you for your contributions and do hope that you continue to contribute when you can/feel like it . --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:35, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

• On a separate note: I see that you have contributed several articles relating to the state of Maine. Thank you! Maineartists (talk) 01:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Help desk.

Thanks for answering me at the help desk.Thanks for your opinion. You used the perfect word, exhausting. That's how I felt trying to make the a single edit to remove the screenshot/image. I will probably not bother anymore with trying to remove the screenshot. It's too tiring, I also don't stay on Wikipedia all day long like some others do. I know if I remove it, it will be added back, and I don't want to edit war or be dragged to an even longer discussion board for just removing a screenshot. It's reasons like the simple edit I wanted to make, that make me not want to edit Wikipedia. 2601:483:100:CB54:2921:709C:47A2:195E (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

I can hear (and understand) your frustration. I honestly believe that the article in question does not display WP at its best. In these situations, to save your sanity, it sometimes is best to simply step back - or even walk away - and hope that an admin or a stronger-willed editor will step in and do what is right to better the article. Best. Maineartists (talk) 01:05, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Mike Leeson - categorization

Hello Maineartists, based on the recent help desk discussion I have nominated the category Category:Songs written by Michael J. Leeson at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 December 27. Any additional input and background information for this discussion would be appreciated. Best regards. GermanJoe (talk) 17:50, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

@GermanJoe: Great! I will head on over! Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 17:32, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Patricia Elliott / Dana Ivey

I don't understand how to use Wikipedia or edit an article. I tried to add info about Patricia Elliott in her bio. We went to LAMDA together in 1963-64. There is no outside reference, only my personal experience of being in class with her for that year and being a friend of hers. I have had an account to sign into with Wikipedia for many, many years, but I d not try to edit any more because it is so complicated. I am not a newcomer and this is not a new account for me. I have received several "Welcomes", which are unwarranted. I am Dana Ivey who was in Sunday in the Park, yes. Patricia was a friend o mine. Her Early Life bio does not mention LAMDA> I thought I was trying to help out but it is too complicated., and not worth it to continue.

Thank you, Maineartists. It took me 5 minutes to find out how to write you again. Wikipedia is SO complicated. I don't understand the "talk" page or how to use it. Thank you for fixing Patricia's bio. Now I wonder if you could fix my Broadway credits section, which doesn't list Present laughter (1983), Heartbreak House (1984)Dariv (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC), Marriage of Figaro (1985) or Importance of Being Earnest (2011). And actually my first screen appearance was in "Explorers." The 2011 "film" version of Importance of Being Earnest, was not technically a film -- it was a taping for a closed sort of Broadway View showing and hasn't been seen since. So it shouldn't be listed under film.Dariv (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC). Oh, please, how do I reach you again more easily?I don't understand "talk " and "edit" and am not sure what I clicked on to open this window.Dariv (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

• @Dariv: No worries. I've moved our conversation to my User Talk Page here. However, I am going to re-direct you to your own subject article on Wikipedia and start a New Section on your TALK PAGE here: (click on this link) Talk Page Dana Ivey. Please see: "DANA IVEY REQUESTS"

All you need to do is follow these instructions:

• 1) Click the blue highlighted "edit" next to the Title: "Dana Ivey Requests" section.
• 2) Type in what concerns you have on your page (below existing text).
• 3) Sign your entries with 4 tildes: ~
• 4) Hit "Save Changes" when you're done.

That's it. An editor for the page will assist in updating your page and gathering reliable sources. As for the above, I will get right on it! To reach me again, click "edit" on this section and simply type below. I will keep "pinging" you for notification. You can also click "WATCH THIS PAGE" for notifications, as well. (There is a "Watchlist" tab in the upper right hand corner that you can click on that will show you the pages in your Watch List) However, for now, I'd say keep a close eye on your TALK PAGE (which is on your article page -- next to the "ARTICLE" tab above your name to the left). Scroll down to find the section "DANA IVEY REQUESTS". Best. Maineartists (talk) 01:36, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Alexandre Mars ‎

I saw your note on the article talk page. I assume you also read the discussion on ANI that resulted in the sanction being imposed. There has been a long history of disruption by that paid editor. Toddst1 (talk) 21:30, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Absolutely. Read it all. You're both too close to this. The frustration is apparent and the language speaks volumes. I am not entering the ring for any other reason than to break the cycle and offer a fresh view point and sounding board. I actually do not plan to "edit" the article in any way but provide another voice of WP reason as to what is notable for inclusion and what is unnecessary filler for a subject that (honestly) is just barely squeaking by for WP:N. My invitation is to keep her out in the open and honest; and more importantly: working with WP rather than against (judging from her history). Honey / vinegar scenario. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 21:46, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

MelanieN I do know the backstory and have read all necessary history involving this editor. I'm coming in as a fresh set of eyes only. Maineartists (talk) 03:23, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Template:Nazism sidebar

Because of a multiplicity of new options, I've withdrawn the RfC you participated in and replaced it with this one Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:42, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Help desk volunteering

Instead of doing a drive-by, would you prefer I stop answering questions on the Help Desk altogether? †dismas†|^(talk) 21:42, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry ... was that really an answer to the question? That's like when someone stops you for directions, and although you know the address, you say: "There's a corner store that sells maps." Maineartists (talk) 00:24, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes, it was. It directly addressed his concerns about turning bare URLs into "viable references". And I notice you never left the message on his talk page as you said you did.

I don't have a lot of time all the time to answer every question with an in depth answer. But I try to point people to at least something that addresses their concerns. †dismas†|^(talk) 00:16, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

• Like I said I did? Please direct me as to where I said that ... in the meantime, let me direct you to this: Talk Kamar Baldwin where I invited the editor to see how to reference hands-on. Shall we keep doing this? Maineartists (talk) 00:26, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

I've already done so with my first comment. But no, we don't need to keep going. †dismas†|^(talk) 20:55, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

"Amendments"

Eh, "amendments"? I don't have to slow down--we have a bot that fixes those things. BTW, adding this kind of stuff only makes the article more promotional. Drmies (talk) 23:41, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

What is "this kind of stuff"? I never added that. I merely restored both links that were removed when you deleted the source but forgot to restore the <ref name> references throughout the rest of the article. You know, if you put in as much effort in "improving" as you do "proving", you'd actually be pleasant to be around. Maineartists (talk) 23:51, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

• If you'd bothered to look at the actual edit history, you'd see that the reliable source that I provided for the film was moved from the filmography section and then replaced "this kind of stuff" that you have falsely accused me of contributing. Maineartists (talk) 00:00, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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Abrasive Tone

Can you expand on your comments made towards me? It's clear you misunderstood my comment, but I don't understand or appreciate the abrasiveness shown in your responses. Thank you. nihlus kryik (talk) 05:33, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

If they were received as abrasive, please accept my apologies. Tone is sometimes lost in exchange at WP. But I wholeheartedly disagree with the excusing of said admin in this case - who now has been reduced to a simple editor - since when does the vast knowledge of adminship leave one's understanding while editing? "...should not be viewed as someone who's acting as an administrator, but as a fellow editor who has rewritten an article" More blame and responsibility was placed on the OP (a non-admin) in this thread than the admin themselves, who IMHO should have known better: "However, per WP:AGF, you should've assumed that he had a reason for doing so ..." (??? their Talk / page history would not confirm this statement) - " ... and initiate a discussion with him, at least to explain why you reverted him. I note that you still have not done that." Where was any of this on the part of the admin? I for one think the "editor" was indeed acting as an admin in that they thought they could do this without the need of 1) assuming good faith, 2) initiating contact, 3) which they still have not done. So my question is: for all the "you could have done more" directed toward the OP - where is the follow up with the admin who initiated all this? (yes, I know he was notified to the discussion, but he never joined) Last: telling another editor that "Anyone can remove info, edit info, or remove references as they see fit (making sure it aligns with Wikipedia policy) since no one owns the articles" IMHO is one of the most overused answers on WP today; especially when the OP never even said such a statement: "I am the original creator of the page, who posted it live to Wikipedia." WP keeps track of how many pages an editor has created, even admins are judged accordingly on this: why shouldn't they raise issue with this detail? Nelly GTFC created an article, the admin created a stub; deleted their article, and replaced their article with his stub. If I misunderstood your comment, I feel (and it's my own opinion) that you initially (along with user:swarm) misunderstood Nelly GTFC's. I still feel a reach out to Giant Snowman is in order here just as a follow up as to procedure and proper etiquette. The editor came to the admin board seeking help and justification; not a lecture and endless wiki-links to policy. The admin in question has a lengthy list of stub articles [7] to move: if another editor creates an article and posts live in the meantime: who is to say they won't do it again? Tone aside, these are my thoughts. In addition, I personally feel that Swarm closed out the discussion far too soon for any constructive resolution. IMHO. Maineartists (talk) 17:43, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Band name

	Free Record
	the Name of my band is THE CLAP formed in 1978 and still touring ! www.theclap.co Johnnyshutup (talk) 01:20, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks! Let me do some research and I'll look into this! Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 01:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

"Helpful advice"

I've never noticed italics used sarcastically before. I hope they both understand. Maproom (talk) 18:52, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikilinking

Hi. You seem to be approaching wikilinking the hard way, at least on the Reference Desk. For example,

• instead of typing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoetrope Zoetrope], a shorter approach would be simply [[Zoetrope]].

Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 17:45, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

I know. Every time I do that I smack my head and think: why didn't I just direct link? It's a hard habit to break, obviously. I may need to smack harder. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 18:04, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

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Hi, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง. It's a bit premature for you to place multiple tags on an article that has reliable sources and notable claims backed by WP requirements listed at WP:NMUSIC. You really should check yourself before placing such tags on an article that presents itself at the very least as a "stub" or "general notability"; without question qualifies as an article of submission and inclusion if you (as an editor at WP) could easily improve with a little bit of research and contribution. I reject your tags on principle and will remove them as such. Best, Maineartists (talk) 03:54, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

I had already passed this article as accepted. Nevertheless, if you can't create an article that is ready for publication, please consider creating it as a WP:Draft or in your user space first. Please note that Wikipedia editors or New Page Reviewers are not here to complete your articles for you if they are no so disposed. I have no hesitation in tagging articles for maintenance that do not meet our criteria. You are not aware however, that I had already also asked our opera specialist at here to check my opinion. Please also be sure to avoid using inapropriate edit summaries. Thank you.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:10, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello, User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] First of all: "our" is not a pretense that I adhere to ... meaning: I do not need to "prove" myself to "you". WP is a community ... I have never used the royal "we" and never will. I have no idea who Kudpung กุดผึ้ง is ... and I strongly believe that the WP community will support me when I say that the "requirements" for inclusion for notability were met for this subject for and beyond the cited sources. Do not school me in the procedure of how to "draft" an article for publication without reviewing my history. My "edit summary" was more an (sic) inapropriate. Maineartists (talk) 04:30, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

I always review users' history befor disussing anything with them; do you? I told you already that I had passed your article for inclusion. You are now leaving me with the opinion that a) you just like to complain, and b) you like having the last word. 'take a step back' and 'Move on' - please. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:55, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Really? Then you would find that in all my history, that I take discussion to the Take Page first before ever instituting edits such as "Monday Morning Quarterback" edits; and allow other editors to administer rv through consensus. Your grammatical errors in spelling is clear enough that you are not "reviewing" such history; allowing you to hastily (WP timeline) respond without consciously presenting a defensible argument. Re: having the last word. That is a cliche for those who cannot defend themselves past a certain point of argument. Maineartists (talk) 05:11, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

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A friendly tip: One of the editors you are going back and forth with at the Bourdain talk page will unceasingly wiki-lawyer you and the discussion to death ala beating the proverbial dead horse long past rigor mortis setting in. For days, if given the opportunity. You'll be doing yourself and the discussion a favor by not getting sucked into it and keeping it going. Just saying. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 17:59, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh. Thanks. I had no idea. Thanks so much for pointing this out. I get sucked in very easily. (As you can see) There's no need for me to aid in beating that poor horse further. Zimmerman eats horses, not Bourdain. Maineartists (talk) 20:34, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

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Please see this edit and this one. Note the edit summaries. In particular, try to avoid links to Amazon in general book citations. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Still learning! Thanks so much for the Amazon tip. I had no idea. Certainly didn't know to actually place the book within the article, either. Thanks again. Question: where did you find the info for Anchor Books 1982? The first edition from Simon and Schuster was the only one I could find. Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh. I googled your ISBN. You found the 1993 reprint [8] published by Anchor Books. I was referencing the first edition in 1982 throughout the article, which was published by Simon and Schuster in 1982. Should we change the inline citation to reflect the correct ISBN, publisher and year? Maineartists (talk) 19:24, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I took it from the bibliography in the main article Leonard Bernstein. Yes, please correct to the original publication year, publisher, and ISBN. Note that {{isbn}} forms a link to a page whre a uer can find a variety of library and commercial sources for a given book. Thank you for the correction. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:02, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

• DES Quick question: what do you call it when an article has a title; but a WP search brings you to it via a different title or wording? The "Tribute" is well known as "This will be our reply to violence". Is it possible to (redirect) a search with this title so that it brings one to the "Tribute" page? I hope this question makes sense. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 18:04, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

  That is known as a Redirect, Maineartists, and any confirmed user can create one. The linked page explains exactly how to create a redirect, and what sorts of titles should be redirected. Feel free to go ahead. We should probably add a line in the article that "This will be our reply to violence" is sometimes used as a title for the address if that can be supported by a source. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 19:51, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks so much, DESiegel. As always, perfect. I think I was confused about how certain pages work. I know when I type in something that I thought was the title or name, it brings up what it actually is called (common name). Since the extracted quote is used more than the address, do you think there will be a page called: "This will be our reply to violence" created? (or should I have created that page as: "Is a line from an address ..." and titled it as the quote?) I may have put the cart before the horse. I was just thinking that when someone googles the quote itself, the WP page might pop up; or similar, in the WP search. Not knowing the original title of the full address. Such as if you type in "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" you are redirected to Over the Rainbow. I wasn't necessarily thinking the address was sometimes titled "This will be our reply"; just merely for searching purposes. Does that make sense? But now that you have me thinking, it would seem that the quote is more commonly known and used than the address from which it was taken. Should I rewrite and retitle? Maineartists (talk) 21:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't think that there should be two separate articles, just one and a redirect. There really isn't enough content here to support two articles in my view. As for which title should be the article, and which the redirect, I would live the article where it is for now. They can always be switched if that seems better. The common name here is not sufficiently clearcut to require a switch now. But that is just my view. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 22:43, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

I am in agreement with your expertise assessment. Thank you again. Maineartists (talk) 23:21, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

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• Second, because Carson's dialogue, though acceptable at that time, may be deemed by some to be too racially offensive by today's standards.

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professor2789 Not the correct forum to discuss. Please reply at: Talk Page: CPO Sharkey Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 01:55, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, can you please sign your nomination statement as no signature is showing, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 23:09, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

• Atlantic306 Completely forgot! Thanks so much for catching it. Maineartists (talk) 00:22, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

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West Side Story had the same problem for years and years. I guess tastes in theatre have changed, but the impulse towards self-promotion hasn't changed? Carry on, though I'm thinking of Man of La Mancha. :-) Shenme (talk) 02:09, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Oh, Geez! Thank you for pointing that out, Shenme! "To dream the impossible dream", huh? LOL At least MOL won awards! Maineartists (talk) 11:24, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

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Just an FYI, this is a long term troll that pops up every now and again with inane questions that they have no actual desire to be answered, whatever answer is given they will either argue with or question further, and then begin to harrass anybody who commented on it. Thats why Baseball Bugs was entirely correct in removing it per WP:DENY--Jac16888 ^Talk 19:11, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

@Jac16888: Well. Let's break this scenario down, shall we? As an editor at WP, you took the time to come to my Talk Page and explain in-depth what Baseball Bugs (who mainly sets up camp at the Entertainment Desk and claims its not a Forum yet enters into a Forum Style thread conversation by answering questions posed by non-registered / registered users at WP. The fact that you took the time to explain what BB did is counter-productive to what should have happened to begin with in dealing with this repetitive user from the standpoint of a WP editor such as myself who was not privy to his/her behavior. BB could / should adopt a simple manner in which he does not engage time and again the troublesome OP before blanking their posts. This shows ownership and sophomoric editing. Simply remain quiet and move on. Also, it takes no time to leave a simple but informative summary explanation (as you have here) for those unfamiliar with this OP or any other "long term" OPs (as you state) that would keep everyone up to date with either SP or trolling. BB chose to engage - answer - both questions before blanking. Your justification of his actions do not correlate with the defense against the OPs long term trolling; considering 1) they did not argue my answer - 2) they have not harassed me - 3) BB continued to engage the thread. Maineartists (talk) 00:12, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Not really interested in any of that to be honest. WP:DENY exists for a reason, in future please check before restoring content that was removed under it.--Jac16888 ^Talk 12:04, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Mm-hm. Maineartists (talk) 16:24, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

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Yes, of course I have seen my own edit. What’s your point?--Sjö (talk) 05:03, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Sjö Well. Given your stern warning, the editor has vandlized other pages since then. Considering you said: "This is your only warning ..." I thought you would be interested in taking the next step. No? Maineartists (talk) 13:07, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

As far as I can tell Ilovebeer998 was blocked about two hours before you edited their talk page, so there really was no point in pinging me. Also, I'm confident that if a warned user continues to vandalize someone will discover it and report it to the administrators (which I am not). You could have reported it yourself and you would have seen quicker results that way, if Ilovebeer998 hadn't already been blocked. Sjö (talk) 13:43, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Wow. Excuse me. Thought WP was a community. Guess not. Sorry to have bothered you. Won't happen again. Maineartists (talk) 14:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

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Hi... thanks for your message on the talk page of this article. It's not a problem – the request will run for a week or so, and hopefully some other editors will chip in with their opinions, and at the end of it a decision will be made one way or another. Normally I'd do a move myself, but with the redirect pages already in existence, it's going to require a multi-stage move, and I think I'd probably make a mess of it, so I'm leaving it to editors more experienced in these matters.

Just for future reference, if a song article require a disambiguation it would be "Title (song)", not "Title (single)". And if there is already an article with another song with the same name, it will be "Title (xxxx song)", with xxxx being the artist's name. Richard3120 (talk) 23:41, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Hey, Richard3120! Thanks so much for taking the time and writing this to me. I really appreciate it! Every little bit helps in my learning here at WP. This one threw me because I really didn't know how to categorize it since technically it wasn't a "song"; but a comedy bit. The best I could think to disambiguate it was "single". But still, I didn't know about the above; and now I do! Thanks!!! Maineartists (talk) 03:15, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I think it would count as a "song", as technically it contains music and lyrics (of a sort). In this case, i think that's going to be irrelevant as it may not need a disambiguator. But actually you are correct, Wikipedia articles for entirely musical tracks are disambiguated as "instrumental"... see Ruins (instrumental), for example. Richard3120 (talk) 12:13, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

All sorted. :-) Richard3120 (talk) 15:39, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

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Atlantic306 That is the one thing I always forgot in the process. Thanks for reminding me! Maineartists (talk) 12:54, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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1. did (Alec, Britt, Jake, Louis, Ralph) Kno 100% that (Gabby was Going to get Gang Raped)?(2601:646:8501:9E60:18A4:7999:9CBB:A103 (talk) 15:09, 21 October 2020 (UTC)).

BEWARE of feeding the above troll. He's been asking these kinds of questions for years, always calling for speculation about the thought processes of TV characters, and as I recall he was effectively banned from Wikipedia, but he still turns up from time to time with these questions. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 15:12, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Duly noted. There are those who spend more time on the page than others; so it is a guessing game for those who frequent it occasionally with good intentions. Thought: why not simply call a troll a troll? That would save everyone a lot of time and effort; especially for unsuspecting saps like myself who now have to go and clean egg of their face. Got it, though. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 21:06, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

No egg. Just eggs-perience. :) I think Jayron knows about this guy, if you want to find out more. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:43, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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Chloe Melas

Your rewrite of the section of her allegations about Freeman was not careful enough. For example, "An investigation concluded that Melas's claims were not supported by the facts" was not supported by the cited reference,[9] and did not state who did the investigation. The section is being discussed at WP:BLP/N#Chloe Melas. Fences&Windows 20:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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Edith Bouvier Beale

Hello, you recently reverted this edit at Edith Bouvier Beale's article because you said the photo should be dated 1976 instead of 1975. That edit contained more than one adjustment; I made edits to the categories the article was featured on, and reformatted some sentences to comply with MOS:JR. I have reverted that edit, aside from your modification of the photo caption. It contained far more than the one point you objected to.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 00:53, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

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HCR

If you don't indicate what you think needs referencing, it won't happen. -- Elphion (talk) 21:45, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Disagree. This is why WP has these templates. Looking at that entire section of 6 paragraphs; there are far too many citations needed; a simply template can suffice. Marking up a section such as this with overkill CNs is not good writing WP policy. IMHO the entire section should be scrapped and just reduced to a simple Bibliography layout. If these works were / are so important, they would / should have their own articles. This only welcomes future inclusions and OR to each and every one of the BLP's works without clear citations other than the work itself. It's a poor inclusion to begin with; and marking it up will only prove that. Leave the template or take it to the Talk Page. Maineartists (talk) 23:47, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

That's a completely different argument than "This section needs (unspecified) references." I agree in general that if you think many more references are needed, the section tag is appropriate -- but in that case you should give some indication on the talk page why (as you now have), or the tag will just sit there forever. -- Elphion (talk) 00:57, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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Date & places in lead, concerning birth & death

The majority of bios on Wikipedia, have date & place in their intros. Anyways, I'm not interested in getting into a lame edit-war with you. PS - You're free to go around those thousands of bio articles & fix them. GoodDay (talk) 23:49, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

• GoodDay Hey, there. I'm curious. Where are all these "thousands" of bios on WP that have date & place listed in parenthesis directly after the name in their ledes. I can only find birth / death dates. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 01:20, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
  • (talk page watcher) FWIW, MOS:OPENPARA used to say "Birth and death places...should not be mentioned in the opening brackets of the lead sentence alongside the birth and death dates". However that has been re-written apparently, although the telepathic link telling us didn't work! Clicking that link now takes you to MOS:OPEN and after some scrolling/searching, more info can be found at MOS:CONTEXTLINK under biographies; more scrolling etc. required. So gradually pages are catching up with the change! Eagleash (talk) 19:54, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Patricia Routledge

I wonder if this disagreement is an issue of US versus UK style. In Britain, she is considered as a comic actress but not a comedian, and all the examples you give in your edit summary are US. I've commented on the article talk page - can you add your thoughts there? Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:36, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Hallie Todd edit

I have reverted your addition of a date of birth to Hallie Todd. In addition to Wikipedia's basic principle of citing sources (Wikipedia:Citing sources), a special need for citations applies with regard to elements of a biography of a living person (WP:BLPPRIVACY). Feel free to add a date of birth when it is accompanied by a citation to a reliable, published source. Eddie Blick (talk) 15:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Eddie Blick Take your pick. When you find one that suits your requirements, please reinstate the date on the BLP's page. [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23]. Maineartists (talk) 17:55, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps I need to clarify an apparent misconception. What you referred to as "your requirements" did not originate with me. They are Wikipedia standards, and I am merely an editor trying to follow the standards. At the top of the page containing WP:BLPPRIVACY is the statement: "This page documents an English Wikipedia policy. It describes a widely accepted standard that all editors should normally follow." Wikipedia:Citing sources contains a similar statement: "This page documents an English Wikipedia content guideline. It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply." I will leave it to you to pick a reliable source from the list of citations that you provided. That is one of the responsibilities of being an editor. Eddie Blick (talk) 19:56, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Joy to the World

You reverted my edit to Joy to the World despite the statement that I revealed it's not original research; look up her version's lyrics online and you'll see. Georgia guy (talk) 14:44, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Georgia guy Yeah? so? That's not how WP works. The very definition of OR is: "look up her version's lyrics online and you'll see". Maineartists (talk) 18:04, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Naomi Sego image

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So, in appreciation of reaching accommodation on the Brit Morgan image, and your contributions as a fellow Wikipedian in general, I decided to see if I could find some images for some of your articles. I do that occasionally. I found this free image of Naomi Sego, which I believe is an article you wrote? I rotated, cropped it, and brightened it (left) from the original (right) which I think improves it somewhat for our purposes; if not, I can try again. It's still just a fan photo, and it is of her later years, but I believe she was active in her later years, so I would think it is still representative of her notability. But I won't put it in the article if you don't agree that it would improve the article, since getting you mad is the exact opposite of my goal here. What do you think? --GRuban (talk) 13:54, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

@GRuban First of all: thank you. I greatly appreciate the effort. Second: as you know, it's not my article. As all articles at WP are communal efforts. But I'll tell you, unfortunately, I ran up against this very issue. Poor Naomi suffered a stroke and her face was distorted in later years. This image was following her stroke and not during her performing years. I had initially wanted to upload Naomi with the Sego Brothers; since the Sego Brothers do not have a page and are mentioned in the article, and she is notable for inclusion because of her work with them. I wonder: since you are a wiz at cropping, might it be beneficial to upload an image of Naomi and the Sego brothers together for the infobox? What do you think? Perhaps from an album cover or a publicity shot? If you can find one? You seem to be very good at seek-and-finds. Album covers and publicity shots are easier to manage the copyright issue and can represent both singer and group. Maineartists (talk) 22:25, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

This image however is a nice representation if you cannot find a group shot.Maineartists (talk) 15:11, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Front cover of Sego Brothers and Naomi Gospel Singers, Runo Records, 1978

Back cover of Sego Brothers and Naomi Gospel Singers, Runo Records, 1978

It took a bit of searching. There are plenty of Sego Brothers & Naomi album covers on EBay, but they mostly bear copyright notices, or only have the front, or are blurry enough that we can't prove they don't have a copyright notice, or are after 1989, when a copyright notice wasn't necessary any more... but eventually I found one that doesn't! I hope the front cover is good for the infobox, and don't know whether you'd also want the back cover, and the individual image. I'll put the front cover in the infobox and the individual image lower down in the article, but if you want to shuffle them around in some other way, feel free. While you're at it, can you label the images with who is who, left to right? I am pretty sure I can pick out Naomi, but I wouldn't be able to identify the other Sego brothers if they bit me, and ... weren't there four of them? Who is missing on the front, and who are the other men on the back? --GRuban (talk) 00:13, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

• @GRuban Great sleuth work! Thanks a lot for doing this. I think it is a perfect addition to the article. I don't think adding the brother's names to the infobox is necessary, considering when an image contains other subjects, usually it is most common to simply identify the subject of the article i.e. Naomi Sego (second from left) is all that is needed. Plus, the brothers are mentioned by name in the article. Second, although I do enjoy the 2009 image, it does look out of place when images outweigh the length of the article itself, sorry to say. Images should never bleed into the reference section; and should only accompany a section for which they represent and add to the content therein. But kudos to you, my friend! You are very good at what you do! So, if it's alright with you, I'll update the infobox to read Noami Sego (second front right) and remove the inner article image. Although, as I said, it is a lovely find. If the article is ever expanded and can hold another image, it still remains on the Talk Page and can be reintroduced. Thanks again. Happy editing! Maineartists (talk) 15:37, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

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Rab V Just because you place a template on my Talk Page doesn't make it so. I included the content based on the discussion found on the Talk Page. You reverted my original edit; and continued to do so: thus starting the edit war. Please do not think by placing this here in anyway shifts the true focus and origin of what transpired. Your template on the Talk Page does not apply to the subject considering the most "up-to-date reliable sources" all refer to Holly Woodlawn as "Born as Haroldo Santiago Franceschi Rodriguez Danhakl." We'll start an RFC. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 02:14, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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Teahouse

Sorry. I felt bad about what I said. I will leave my comment. I need to assume good faith. I'm assuming I'm correct. Cwater1 (talk) 21:30, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

I have felt bad so many times here at WP. But unfortunately, striking is the only way to block out a comment on a public forum. On your own Talk Page you can remove anything, even other editor's post. I would simply strike the comment. Leave it at that. Don't feel bad. There may be others who agree with you. Everyone has an opinion. Happy editing! Maineartists (talk) 21:42, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Oh okay. I probably won't strike. I do try to go by what's done is done but how would I strike my comment. Cwater1 (talk) 21:44, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Like this enclose the entire comment (see View History) Maineartists (talk) 21:50, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Did so several hours back. Good thing I previewed because I had the / in the wrong place. Cwater1 (talk) 03:51, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

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Nancy Cantor

You reverted the addition of a police encounter using the justification that it was "Already covered within article". I can't find the section you are referring to. Can you please enlighten me? Thanks! 64.67.133.51 (talk) 01:06, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

• Thank you for bringing this to my attention. A COI editor removed all negative content relating to the subject. I will be reinstating. Maineartists (talk) 11:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks. How long does it usually take? 64.67.133.51 (talk) 14:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

If you read the Talk Page Talk:Nancy Cantor you'll see there's more than just an easy re-instatement. I'm up against a COI and an article that I didn't realize had been scrubbed to reflect only a positive resume-style bio of the subject. I'm gathering all the information to reinstate more than just the police incident into the article. It should take only a day or two. I want to make it right so that there can be no future contestable content. Thanks for your patience. Maineartists (talk) 22:34, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

• Maineartists - about two minutes ago I made a ton of edits to the article to restore some things that the (likely) COI editor had deleted. I'm sorry, I neglected to check the Talk page first and didn't notice you were already working on it. Please feel free to revert any of my edits as you see fit. (FYI, I've left a note on the Talk page of the SPA editor who appeared to have initially whitewashed the article last month). Thanks for keeping an eye on the page. Chetsford (talk) 21:44, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

@Chetsford Oh. Well. Thank you for your honest disclosure. I worked very long and hard off-site on crafting an equal weight and NPOV article. I will try my best to reconstruct what was there before. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 22:22, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Maineartists - you can just refer to any previous version in View History and copy paste it in. Chetsford (talk) 22:26, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For sticking up for WP:BLP. When one edits WP widely for a long time, one is likely to piss someone off sooner or later. I've been mentioned on Reddit too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:46, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Lois Wright

Hi, I saw your post at BLPN about reverting back to a previous version. After clicking on "View history", pick a date from the history you want to restore and you will see the older revision as seen here. Then look for [restore this version], click on that and give a reason for the revert, and you're done. Hope this helps. Isaidnoway (talk) 01:36, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

@Isaidnoway Thank you! I have always wanted to know how this was done. Maineartists (talk) 11:32, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

GG Badly constructed para - it reads so very badly...

Rather a matter of opinion - because something is 'long standing' is not a robust entry into a constructive dialog - regards. Dr. BeingObjective (talk) 15:10, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

And it is just opinion - and a writing style. Nothing is just as it is because you state it so.

My daughter actually did a HS review on the family - she thought much of the diatribe in WP very, very confusing, her interpretation was funny - she thought the daughter was the child of the law partner and I had to read a few times before I saw her point.

Kids today -

I do not really care - thought watching three iterations of GG was intriguing- I thought my edits - actually were with a very light hand. Cheers...

'Beale was born in New York City, the only daughter of Phelan Beale, a lawyer, and Edith Ewing Bouvier. Her mother, (known as "Big Edie"), was the daughter of Phelan’s law partner, John Vernou Bouvier Jr. She was born at 1917 Madison Avenue, New York City, (now the site of the Carlyle Hotel). -- i think the mother's WP article even worse tbh. BeingObjective (talk) 15:10, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

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Clearing the air

Hi, I appreciate you tagging me on your comment on the Bambi file talk, but thought it was more appropriate to respond to you on your talk page.

So I completely understand why you feel like I'm targeting you personally. Probably the best thing I can do is explain my process.

• I came across your R. Kelly image upload because I frequently check for unreviewed or mislicensed Flickr uploads on Commons.
• I tagged the image as a copyvio and that automatically sends you a notification—I didn't think to send you anything else because, in my mind, it was a pretty clear cut case and there wasn't a whole lot to discuss.
• When I find what looks like a copyvio file, I think it's good practice to see what else the user has uploaded since they may be making the same types of errors elsewhere, and since you tagged me here on English Wiki, I checked your en-wiki uploads too.
• I disagreed with your fair use rationale for the three images, so I removed them from the articles.
• When a non-free image isn't used in an article for couple of days, it triggers a bot message--I know you don't like them, but I don't have control over them. So the timing of the messages vs the FFD for the Will Sampson painting is coincidental.
• I'm mostly focused on images so I had no idea that you started the Will Sampson and Jake Day articles. Yes, I was checking your uploads, but I wouldn't say I was scouring your edit history.
• You know that book If You Give a Mouse a Cookie? That's basically how I am on Wiki/Commons, which is how I ended up editing the articles you created.

I realize that's a lot, but I thought a thorough explanation would be more helpful than me simply telling you to WP:AGF. I understand if you feel like I'm coming after you, but I can assure you that my editing is completely in good faith and we have the same goal, to improve the quality of articles and images on this project (and if you disagree with any of my edits, feel free to revert/edit--I don't WP:OWN the articles, after all).

With that said, I'm happy to discuss the fair use images at Talk:Jake Day, though I may not be able to respond much this weekend. Adeletron 3030 (talk • edits) 03:31, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Permission to create new draft

Hey, M.A. I am trying to make a draft, but I figured I wanted to reach out to a high-ranking WP user or admin like you to get consent to finish doing so. Here is the draft I am creating in my sandbox: Niko Ruffin. Please respond when you get the chance. Thank you. Darrion "Beans" Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 21:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Darrion "Beans" Brown Thanks for reaching out. You've done quite a lot of work in assembling a good article. Would you mind if I went in and tweaked the format just a bit to better fit the standard look here at WP? You have everything an article on a BLP subject should want as a stub article, but the sections need to be put in order and coordinated a bit better. Plus, some of the language can be aligned more with WP:MOS. Is this OK with you? I promise to make changes only for the better and nothing that is for my personal preference. Strictly in keeping with WP policy. Maineartists (talk) 16:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Go ahead, M.A. I think your contribution to my contributions will work better. There's nothing like it. Your permission is granted. Thanks. Darrion "Beans" Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 06:23, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Oh yeah and @Maineartists: If there's anything else I would remind you, from now on, I should at most times notify admins or bureaus like you. You're free to re-edit my sandbox draft. Give it a shot!. Good luck, friend. Darrion "Beans" Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 03:18, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Lee Carson

Dear Maineartists: As you can tell, I am unfamiliar with Wikipedia protocol, but my mama did teach me something about giving credit where credit is due. On Monday I anonymously (because I couldn't remember my log in)posted a question about why Lee Carson did not have a page. Yesterday I was talking with a fellow teacher (I'm a school librarian) about creating a page for her and while I was talking I found her newly created page! Huzzah! Thank you for starting this even if it deprives me of the glory of starting my first page, it provides her with the glory she deserves. She seems like a real bad ass. I'm hoping to learn some editing skills so I can add to the page you started. Thank you again, mcadorette Mcadorette (talk) 13:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Mcadorette. Thank you for leaving that question. Because you brought that oversight here to WP, I was able to create the Lee Carson page (which she so rightly deserves). I was surprised as well that she did not have one. In linking her name to other articles, I discovered credit had not been given properly for her accomplishments; which allowed me also to correct those oversights, as well. I hope you are able to add more content to the page and maybe even start your first article on other female war correspondents that do not have articles here at WP. Happy editing! Maineartists (talk) 13:58, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Church image

You recently uploaded an image to the Commons, File:Union Church (Wiscasset, Maine).jpg, that is almost certainly a copyright violation. However, the image could be uploaded here to Wikipedia at a reduced size with the appropriate tagging and limited use. See WP:FAIRUSE. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:34, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

talk OK. I'm never good at these things. Can you help me out? It's a postcard from 1958. When you say "almost certainly a copyright violation". In what way? and how do I reduce the size with the appropriate tagging and limited use? Just slapping this on someone's Talk Page with a See: doesn't help. Walk me through it please. If I knew how, I would have done it. Thanks. Maineartists (talk)

Not every editor has a lot of time to explain the specific details of every problem. You have received numerous warning about uploading copyrighted images on the Commons for years, and each of these warnings came with links to information pages regarding what is copyrighted and what is permitted to be uploaded under copyright law. However, as in the most recent case, you said that copyright had been waived without any evidence. This creates a potential legal problem for the Wiki that could have been prevented by you reading the information pages instead of wrongly pushing responsibility onto other editors when they don't have the time to explain every fine detail. Only because I have just a little extra time today, I will explain this:

• Things published more than 95 years ago (that is, as of right now, published in 1928 or earlier) is almost certainly in the public domain. That means, with extremely few exceptions that are probably not going to come up for you, anything 95 years old or older is acceptable to be uploaded to the Commons as long as it was published at least 95 years ago.
• Some things published in the 1940s, 1950s, and early 1960s are also in the public domain. This is because their license was not renewed. The process for determining this is complicated, so someone like you who has trouble identifying copyright should always assume that the image is not acceptable to be uploaded to the Commons if it is less than 95 years old.
• Some things are published with little to no licensing/copyright, making them acceptable to be uploaded to the Commons. These include images first published on Flickr or YouTube with a Creative Commons license (rather than being later uploaded to Flickr or YouTube after appearing elsewhere under copyright). US federal government images and documents are almost always free of copyright and can be uploaded.
• If an image is protected by copyright but depicts a dead person or destroyed item for which no public domain image exists, you may upload that image to Wikipedia (not the Commons) as fair use. When uploading, it must be of a reduced size and quality (see the image on my article for The Oxford History of Christian Worship for an example of how small). The easiest way I've found to make the image small enough is by screenshotting it after the image preview window is made small enough. If you upload an image and it's initially too large, another editor will gladly fix the size for you (there's a bot that helps keep tabs).
• Fair use images can usually only appear on articles about the subject of the image (so the postcard photo of the chapel would be a perfect candidate for the church article). If you need additional clarification about this part, I can explain it.

Further copyright violations will be a major issue. If you ever are in doubt, go to the Teahouse and ask. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 18:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

@Pbritti, on "small enough", bots do that automatically, [24] is fairly typical. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Non-free pictures

For me, the most interesting easy use is lead-images for dead people, or in your case, a "dead" church. So if I see an article like Santo Trafficante Sr. and think to myself "surely there's a pic of him somewhere?" I can easily add one if I find it. Or if I start an article like Theo Stavropoulos. Fictional people are allowed too, but there can be a lot of devil in the details: Talk:Paul_Atreides#RfC_on_the_infobox_image. If someone should upload a free/licensed alternative to any of these at some point, the non-free ones will be deleted from WP.

Btw, you may want to consider Help:Archiving (plain and simple). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:01, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

File:Union Church, Wiscasset, Maine, Smallest Church in the World.jpg listed for discussion

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Archived discussion

I am archiving this discussion [25] from the Help Desk regarding PD allowance of a Postcard once deemed inadmissible at WP, then uploaded correctly with the assistance of an experienced editor under a different license (yet placed once again up for deletion discussion, for whatever reason), only to have a Wiki-admin upload the exact same image of the postcard as PD and be approved. Maineartists (talk) 19:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Union Church, Wiscasset, Maine, Smallest Church in the World.jpg

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Maineartists. Thank you for your work on Helen Van Wyk. Another editor, Bastun, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Nice work on your new article. It would benefit from the inclusion of a photo of the subject, if you can find a public domain one?

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Bastun}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

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AfDs in August

Hi, I saw your recent helpdesk post and noticed that you started two recent AfDs in mid August and they ended in no consensus. I would suggest that you might do better to wait until (mid?) September unless the AfD is urgent for some reason. I made what I thought was a straightforward nomination on 2 September and it took two weeks to get two responses. TSventon (talk) 13:33, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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