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September 1[edit]

Removal of birthdate per WP:BLP[edit]

Per WP:BLP you may ask to have your birthday removed. When I asked, someone was kind enough to do this for me, including removing it from the article history. My friend Lindsay Burns would also like her birthday removed. I took it off the page. Is there a way I can remove it from the page history or request this be done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asbruckman (talkcontribs) 16:03, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  1. You have misrepresented or misunderstood what WP:BLP says about birthdates, and
  2. In spite of your declared WP:COI, you have already removed the reliably sourced birthdate (rather than reducing it to just birth year), and
    Struck (I see you corrected it to year only in the next edit)
  3. The declared COI/paid editor requesting the birthdate removal is SighSci (see User talk:SighSci#August 22); your post here could be interpreted to mean that SighSci is Lindsay Burns.
The full matter is currently being discussed at SighSci's talk and at the COI noticeboard. [1] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:41, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pueblo Nuevo, Temuco[edit]

Hello, the article Pueblo Nuevo, Temuco has an error in reference 27. And the references in the Share taxis, Metro and Metrotren Araucanía sections do not appear in the References section.I don't know how to fix it. Thanks in advance. Soy Juampayo (talk) 04:41, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done, I was able to do the correction myself. Hugs. Soy Juampayo (talk) 04:54, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Outdated Data for Emplifi Article[edit]

@Timtempleton: said here the Emplifi Wikipedia page is pulling out-dated, pre-acquisition financials for the infobox from Wikidata (no new information is publicly available). He suggested I post here about how to stop wikidata from auto-populating the infobox, if possible, as it would be better to leave it blank than use financials that are just of the acquired business. JordanJulian19 (talk) 08:19, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@JordanJulian19: I think this is an easy delinking question for someone who knows the ins and outs of Wikidata. If that person isn't here, I also posted a question linking to this question and the other Wikidata question above at the Wikidata help desk. [[2]] TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 01:05, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tool for seeing how people navigated to a page[edit]

What can I use if I want to see how users navigated to a certain page (so like, if I wanna see how users got to the page for "Canada", I can see that 23% got there from a search engine like Google, 10% got there by searching, 8% got there by clicking a wikilink on the "North America" page, 5% got there by clicking a wikilink on the "Ontario" page, etc.). I definitely have used this tool before, but I can't remember what it was called, and couldn't find it listed in relevant WP/help pages. TheGEICOgecko (talk) 09:19, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TheGEICOgecko toolforge:WikiNav 163.1.15.238 (talk) 16:42, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! TheGEICOgecko (talk) 18:29, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong Talk Page[edit]

I just expanded Michigan eLibrary, however there is no Talk Page for this article. The Talk Page goes to Library of Michigan which is wrong. How can I get it corrected, where Michigan eLibrary has its own Talk Page? Keep in mind that Library of Michigan still has to have its own Talk Page. Two different articles that each should have their own Talk Page. Thanks for technical help.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:04, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Click the "redirected from" link at the top of Talk:Michigan eLibrary after it's been redirected. You can edit the page and remove the redirect. Bazza (talk) 10:08, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I corrected it this way. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:13, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Allied Names for WWII Japanese Aircraft[edit]

The Code name Joyce on the Wikipedia page says it is an unknown Nakajima plane but I found a page that says it was a fictional plane (https://ww2db.com/other.php?other_id=32)

If I could get logged in I'd be posting under my name  :) 2605:A601:AF50:4200:25A8:3072:A564:4863 (talk) 11:09, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose the page in question would be World War II Allied names for Japanese aircraft, and suggest you post on the article talk page regarding the source. Sam Sailor 16:31, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WorldNetDaily[edit]

WorldNetDaily references are unreadable.

  • 1 a b c [4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12]
  • 2 a b [13][14][15][16][17][18]
  • 26 [19][7][20][4][21][22][23][24][8][25]
0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 13:48, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Are you suggesting that there's a wild case of WP:Citation overkill? Or that it's just not human-readable? Explodicator7331 (talk) 14:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It seems like something went horribly wrong with this edit. The 40+ subsequent edits to the article will make it difficult to fix. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:54, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ONUnicorn Not sure what you mean, the groups of refs are still there in previous versions, they just appear after the refs inside them (e.g. the first bundle is ref no 9). It would be possible to separate the bundles of references out into a "notes" section using {{Efn}} and {{notelist}} if preferred. This seems to be yet another case of 0mtwb9gd5wx wasting everyone's time by asking poorly written questions: [3] [4] [5] [6]. If they expect other people to be able to help them they should at least put the effort in to write in proper English that other people stand a chance of understanding. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 17:08, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would be preferable to separate the bundles into a notes section. As 0mtwb9gd5wx pointed out, the way it is now they aren't "readable" - i.e. they aren't expanded. In the article you see a footnote that leads to a footnote rather than a readable reference. I get why they're bundled, but they need to be expanded somewhere. Also, you are correct that they were bundled that way before the edit I pointed out - the bundles just weren't in the same location in the article, meaning it was less noticeable. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ONUnicorn The "footnote leads to a footnote" setup is intentional, it's called nesting footnotes and is quite commonly used when certain statements need a lot of references, e.g. most of the entries in List of video games considered the best and similar lists use this setup. The citations seem to be fine to me, if you use citation popups (default gadget) you can hover over the reference in the reference to get the full details of each source. As I said above though WorldNetDaily references are unreadable is not a question and we have no way of knowing what the issue here actually is. Unless 0mtwb9gd5wx comes back to tell us what they find "unreadable" about them I don't think there's much we can do here. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 17:31, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The mess at WorldNetDaily does not resemble anything that's recommended at nesting footnotes.   Maproom (talk) 18:19, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Need help publishing bio[edit]

New to wikipedia and trying to publish my Bio on wikipedia, I already created a words document draft, if anyone can help me publish it would be very grateful. I can send the word document private if you wish to help. Kanetam (talk) 19:41, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kanetam: You are strongly discouraged from writing an autobiography about yourself on Wikipedia, as it is generally very hard for a subject to write neutrally about themselves. You may want to use a social networking site to do so. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:43, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The article is not about me, it's about a Professor / book publisher that works in my country. Does that change anything? and if so, then how do I publish their bio Kanetam (talk) 21:58, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Kanetam, create a WP:DRAFT. Read WP:YFA for an overview of the article creation process. Sungodtemple (talk) 22:23, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Kanetam: In that case I'd suggest following Sungodtemple's suggestion, and make sure you have reliable sources that establish the subject's notability as Wikipedia defines it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:02, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Kanetam. As Tenryuu says, this is strongly discouraged. If you are unfamiliar with writing for Wikipedia it is unlikely that any of what you have written will be suitable. You would need to find several places where people wholly unconnected with you, and not quoting your words, have written a significant amount of material about you and been published by reliable sources - if these do not exist, then you do not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability (like most of us) and no article is possible. If you can find such sources, you will then have the extremely difficult task of forgetting everything you know about yourself, and writing an article based wholly on what those people have published about you - including people who have been strongly critical of you, if there happen to be some.
If you succeed in getting an article written and accepted, it will not belong to you, will not be controlled by you, and might end up saying what you do not want it to say.
Do you see why we disourage you from trying? ColinFine (talk) 19:49, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Kanetam. I've seen your clarification. Much of my reply still applies: it is unlikely that your draft will be appropriate unless you have already worked with sources in the way I have suggested. ColinFine (talk) 22:45, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User talk page mystery[edit]

I feel a complete fool asking a question here after 16+ years of editing Wikipedia, but when I recently archived my talk page the generated 'User talk:Derek R Bullamore/Archive 25' seems to be hanging on the talk page, rather than nesting in the cream coloured box to the right. There is probably an easy answer to this, but I am stumped (or LBW, bowled, caught, or even hit the ball twice). Many thanks - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:22, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It was fixed by Trappist the monk in this diff (the link needed to be placed inside the {{Archive box}} template). DanCherek (talk) 20:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Recent donation[edit]

I tried to donate $500 as a onetime donation. My receipt said I donated $5000. Please correct this mistake no matter which of us made it. 76.171.34.121 (talk) 20:40, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please try following these steps to request a refund. DanCherek (talk) 20:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]