Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/Archive/2009/September

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is 'discussion' the same as 'talk'?

In my Wikipedia watchlist, some items appear as 'Talk:' Is this the same as the 'discussion' tab? I'm finding the editing process difficult enough without copy with loose terminology Adamtester (talk) 02:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Algebraist 02:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it does. Wikipedia has many different areas called namespaces. Talk is one of them. There are a few more, including Wikipedia:X, Help:X, and Template:X. hmwitht 20:26, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
To add to the confusion, "admin", "administrator" and "sysop" all mean the same thing. I do sympathize; I'm slightly surprised that someone hasn't done a poll on "talk" and "discussion" to decide which term to use, and deprecated the less preferred term.SPhilbrickT 21:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Help on Watchlist Page

The watchlist page shows some numbers like (+94) or (-8) in front of the watch page, for an edit on the page. what do these numbers specify?

Prabodh1987 (talk) 07:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Those numbers represent the number of bytes added or removed from the article. For more info, take a look at Help:Watchlist#How to read a watchlist. — QuantumEleven 08:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Those numbers signify how much information (in bytes) has been added or removed from a page. For example, if a page is +94, it's probably had some minor information added. If a page is -3200, some large section has been taken out. It's an easy way to see how much data is being moved around on the page. Good luck! Dayewalker (talk) 08:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
See WP:+/-. – ukexpat (talk) 13:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

so new at this

how do i go about making a page about something in wikipedia?

i would really appreciate some help!

.x.hiS_anGel.x.

.x.hiS anGel.x. (talk) 13:18, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. – ukexpat (talk) 13:21, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Writing an article for Wikipedia is harder than many people realize. Even professional writers find that the format and style needed for a good encyclopedia article are different than what might be appropriate for other venues. You could:
  • Get someone else to do it—If your only goal is to make sure that an article is added to Wikipedia, you can request that someone write an article on the subject.
  • Start by editing other articles—If you are interested in becoming an editor at Wikipedia, our experience demonstrates that it is better to start by improving existing articles, which will help you get a sense of how this place works, and then you will be ready to write your first article from scratch. A good place to visit is the Wikipedia backlog, where there are literally hundreds of thousands of articles needing help from editors. Find an article in a subject area you know, and add a source, or a reference, or simply help write it better.
  • Go ahead and try—If you do decide to write an article immediately, please read our policy on conflicts of interest, then read our guide to writing your first article, which will repeat some of the good advice above. Then please use the Article wizard, which will help you through the steps. I urge you to accept the option to save your first draft in your user subpage, which will reduce the chance your work will be deleted before it is ready.

SPhilbrickT 21:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Name in categories

I was wondering if it was possible to change the name that appears in categories. For example, if the article name is "Murder of Mr. Smith" but you want what appears in the category as "Mr. Smith (murder)" (not the sort order), is that possible? ARTEST4ECHO (talk) 16:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

It is not possible to change the name that appears in category lists, but it is possible to change the name under which the article is sorted in category lists. See WP:SORTKEY. Algebraist 16:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How can I get References to display while trying to edit?

Hello.

I edited a page, added a reference that needs fixing, and now cannot find a way to access the references again. When I click Edit, all I see is "References" then a blank line and then "references" with the open and close brackets plus the final slash. Since the references do not display, I cannot edit the reference I added.

Can someone tell me how I can view the references in edit mode? I see the External Links and can edit them, no problem there; it's just with the references.

Thanks!Manyhats (talk) 19:10, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

The references are not actually listed in the "Reference" section. The reference section simply takes the info from earlier in the article that is listed between the <ref> and </ref> tags. To edit them, find the superscript numerals in the article and edit that section. You'll see the references listed there. TNXMan 19:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
The handling of references does make sense, but it is not obvious, and a source of confusion to many newcomers. See wp:cite for more information.SPhilbrickT 21:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
You can use the Preview button to check formatting of the article, including edits, while you are working on it. – ukexpat (talk) 21:51, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Getting a page to autofill in the search bar?

Hi Wikipedia Gods,

First, just let me say that you guys are ineffably patient answering all of these questions and that making a new page was a breeze!

My question is, now that I have some pages successfully created, how do I get them to show up (autofill/autocomplete) in the Wikipedia search bar?

Linking the pages to other pages and vice versa is easy, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what gets an already existing article to show up there.

My apologizes if I missed something obvious on this one!

Buddy23Lee (talk) 19:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how exactly the search bar works, but I suspect it's an AJAX call against an index in the database. It probably only works after the new page has been indexed, which may take a while - many maintenance operations are done periodically. Give it a day or two, and then try again. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 19:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Adding Photo to Article

I have been an amateur (and one time professional) nature photographer for 60 years. I have been to the Dragonfly page many times, and I have a photo of a dragonfly which dos not fit the profile. There are no other photos similar to this particular dragonfly. First, I'd like to know what it is, and second, is it possible to add the photo to the article. I would be willing to share any of my photos from any of my "galleries" so long as I retain the original copyright.

I hope that this post follows Wiki's rules and intent.

Ethan Winning E A Winning (talk) 22:22, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Ethan! First, you can post your picture (or a link to it) to the Science Reference Desk at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science. The contributors there are pretty good at identifying unknown plants and critters. If you want your image to appear in Wikipedia, you will need to release it under a public license, typically the Creative Commons WP:CC-BY-SA license. You still retain the original copyright, but others will be able to use your image, even commercially, as long as they give proper credit to you as the author. Technically, to upload your image use the "Upload file" link in the toolbox, which is in the left margin unless you have customized the interface.--Stephan Schulz (talk) 23:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Stephan preempted most of what I was going to say, but I'll add that a better place for you to upload the photo would be Wikimedia Commons, since then it could be used in any of the various language versions of Wikipedia. You can upload it by creating an account there, then starting at this page. Deor (talk) 23:17, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

TEA AND BISCUITS WITH MAGGIE PRITCHARD

Hello. I would be greatful for some help with a Wik page i am trying to add for my TV series... "Tea and Biscuits with Maggie Pritchard".

Basically it has been edited a couple / few time in recent days... but Wik wish to delete it. Is there anything I can do?

Tea and Biscuits with Maggie Pritchard details can be found on the IMDB site.

With regards


Annebelle f warlow (talk) 13:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

lacks 3rd party references, not clear how this is notable

Therefore you need to add such references that show notability for the subject.Paste Let’s have a chat. 13:57, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

zoology

explain host parasite relationship with reference to helminths......... ..pedogenesis explain how humn heart is superior than aves........... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.229.42 (talk) 16:47, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. But note, we will not do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 16:57, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Why are pictures not allowed in disambiguation pages?

I once tried to place a picture on this type of page but it was deleted and then the picture was deleted. NarSakSasLee (talk) 19:32, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

The relevant policy is located at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)#Images and templates. It's short, but it says it is highly discouraged unless the images strongly aid in the disambiguation of articles, such as in the case of similarly named locations found right next to each other. ~ Amory (usertalkcontribs) 19:40, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Regarding new submission for Ron Wilkinson

I'm rather new to this and I've tried to add a submission on Ron Wilkinson which has now been slated for speedy deletion, mostly because I didn't know how to add the information properly so the entry appeared to lack significance. This is what I was preparing to submit after:

Article collapsed for ease of reading

Business career In 1981, he began Foodco with his son Ed Wilkinson. Ed was the programmer, while Ron brought his restaurant expertise to the table. Foodco's cost control software program was so effective at controlling costs that by 1987 it was installed in over 900 Marriot facilities. Ron went on to found ProfitMax Marketing in 1999 in response to a need expressed by his Foodco customers for a marketing program that would be as effective and detailed as Ron's food costing software. From this development effort Ron developed a personaleized "high-touch" marketing program which combines marketing, tracking, and training that dramatically enhances customer frequency and spending. Over the years, Ron has become a recognized expert in the area that he loves the most--maximizing sales and net profits through lowest-cost, highly effective marketing campaigns that build customer loyalty in food service operations of all types.

Ron's most recent innovation offers individual restauranteurs a "crystal ball view" of how their anticipated marketing campaigns will affect their profit growth. Ron's hallmark is the high level of customization that his programs bring to the needs of the individual restauranteur.

A prolific author, Ron has authored over 40 books, including, "Service at Its Best: Waiter-Waitress Training; A Guide to Becoming a Successful Server," "Making Your Restaurant a Money Making Organization," "'Wow' Exceptional Service," "Neighborhood Sales--Builder's Marketing Programs," and "Marketing Is Everyone's Job."

Leadership and Service

Ron has served in various civic and business organizations, i.e., President of the Chamber of Commerce, Chairman of the United Way, Charmain of the Utah County Republican Party district one, recipient of the "Outstanding Young Man Award" presented by the U.S. Jaycees. Ron has been a member of the National Restaurant Association and served on teh advisory board of Utah State University and Weber State College as well as the State board of Education.

Then I was planning in inserting the cites. I beg of you to please give me a reprieve here and not go ahead with the speedy deletion. I'm new and still learning the ropes on this tool.

Thanks, Monte Bateman

Hello, welcome to Wikipedia! If you wish to add information for a new article and then add your citations, I would suggest you consider creating the article in your userspace (see WP:USERSUBPAGE). You can work on it there with less chance of deletion (copyvios, BLP violations, etc may still be deleted). As always, make sure the subject of the article is notable, and the information you add is verifiable - the citations you add must come from reliable sources. Oh, and you can contest any speedy deletion by placing {{hangon}} underneath the speedy tag, then giving your reason on the talkpage. Further questions? let me know! Fleetflame 22:00, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

misspelled category at Wikimedia Commons

Is this the right page for questions about Wikimedia Commons? The category "Ctenolophon parviflorus" is a misspelling, but apparently i can not edit the page. The correct spelling can be found at www.ipni.org. as well as many other sites. 128.171.106.205 (talk) 22:41, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

You'd be better off trying the Commons Help desk. --BelovedFreak 23:45, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Is there an article template i can use instead of starting from scratch (to create a wikipedia article)?Wildfire mkg (talk) 01:11, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Is there an article template i can use instead of starting from scratch (to create a wikipedia article)?Wildfire mkg (talk) 01:11, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid not - some information in articles is made with standard templates, like {{infobox}} and its variants, but there isn't one for the whole article. The only think I can think of that I would recommend would be to look at similar articles (on the same subject, etc) and go off of them. Style and formatting and the like is standardized according to the Manual of Style, so make sure it complies with that. Further questions? let me know! Fleetflame 01:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I find, as Fleetflame suggests, that looking at a well developed article on a similar subject works very well, but you can use the not yet finished Wikipedia:Article wizard for some instruction if the article subject fits the categories thus far created. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
You can also take a look at Wikipedia:Writing better articles and Wikipedia:Layout, which give fairly good advice on how to structure an article. — QuantumEleven 06:57, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Spoilers

How do I make spoilers? I've seen them used in some articles, but don't know how it works. All i know about templates is {{}} || and |

The ones I am referring to are those can be expanded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.156.14.74 (talk) 09:28, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean, how do you collapse text to hide it (as in the section here a few posts above yours?) That's easy: paste
{{collapsetop|Text you want to use to label the collapsed section goes here}} at the start of the section you want to hide, and {{collapsebottom}} at the end of it, e.g.
{{collapsetop|Section collapsed for length}}
Long section goes here
{{collapsebottom}}
But it's not actually intended for use with spoilers - see our guideline on spoilers, which specifies that, in Wikipedia, "Spoilers are no different from any other content and should not be deleted solely because they are spoilers." Gonzonoir (talk) 09:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

thanks. Now i also know about nowiki tag, ty —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.156.14.74 (talk) 10:01, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome - WP:How to edit a page introduces many more wikimarkup tips and tricks. Gonzonoir (talk) 12:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Assistance in Using Templates

Hello--

I've had a lot of content deleted and now I'm trying to Wikify it properly; I noticed that there are templates for some of the categories which I'm seeking to write about, specifically feature movie templates and motion picture production company templates...how do I actually use these templates? Do I enter edit mode and then cut and past the code into a new article, or do I edit the template with the desired info and then just save it - without fear of altering the original?

Please advise, thanks

Johncmorley (talk) 09:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi there - do you mean infoboxes? These are the boxes in the top righthand corner of many articles that set out key information about their subjects (e.g. there's one at Batman). If that's what you're after, then yes, you need to do this:
  1. Find the article to which you want to add the infobox, and click "edit" to load edit mode.
  2. Find an appropriate infobox: WP Infoboxes maintains a good list.
  3. From the template page of your chosen infobox (e.g. Template:Infobox comics character, in Batman's case), copy the template text (the stuff in the dashed box on the page I linked here).
  4. Paste the template text at the top of the article into which you want to add the infobox.
  5. In the article edit screen, fill out the template's parameters. You can leave blank any you don't know how to complete.
  6. Preview your changes, then save.
Does that help?
Another word of advice, though. I see from your talk page that some of the content you've had deleted has been challenged on grounds of notability, not the fact that it's not wikified (which should never be a grounds for article deletion). An infobox won't really help with that: to establish that the subject of your article is notable you'll need to bring in reliable references that show it's received substantial third-party coverage. Let us know if you need any more help. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

{{helpme}}

i'm not sure what i've done wrong in my first page thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antoniospera (talkcontribs) 11:55, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia! You created the article Hotel In Room Entertainment TV System, which was marked to be speedily deleted by another editor, for "unambiguous advertising or promotion". My personal opinion is that the nomination for speedy deletion was a bit harsh - although the article still needs some work (obviously, as it's been started). You did the right thing by adding the {{hangon}} template to the article, and leaving a message on the article's talk page - although you shouldn't have removed the speedy deletion notice, as that should only be done by the administrators who run the speedy deletion process. Next, I would contact the editor who added the speedy deletion notice (User:WWGB, you can find that out from the article's revision history), and leave a message on his/her talk page, asking what it was that they objected to in the article. That way, you can understand what you can change to make the article better! Guides such as how to write your first article can also be helpful.
Lastly, remember to sign your posts on talk pages (including this page), so that it's easier to keep track of who wrote what. To sign your posts, just click the "signature and timestamp" button in the edit toolbar when you're editing. Please don't hesitate to ask again if something isn't clear - Wikipedia can be intimidating when you start out, but we're all here to help! :) — QuantumEleven 12:43, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Note that I've speedily deleted as a large part of the article was a copyright violation, and have left a comment on the editor's talk page. Tony Fox (arf!) 16:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Advertising alert on article. What should I change?

This entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Illinois_College_of_Medicine has a notice at the top saying that it is written as an advertisement. I would like to re-write it so that the article will not seem like an ad and will not have the notice. What should I change; what is causing the ad alert? After making changes, how long would it take for a second review and for the notice to be removed? Thanks. 128.248.93.106 (talk) 16:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

The tone is too promotional, too full of stuff like the "Innovations and Firsts" section. Concentrate on wikifying the article with links to notable topics, and minimize all the press-release goshwowoboy-ain't-we-grand stuff. Source your article with solid references to scholarly histories of medical education and the like, not news-squibs about new grants received in the past few years. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:45, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Catcher in the Rye Project

topic One: Historical Information —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jshaw021882 (talkcontribs) 18:44, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. But please note that the reference desk will not do your homework for you. TNXMan 19:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

broke an infobox

I am trying to edit the page Newfrontiers. Just opening the page and previewing it without touching the text at all has done something to the infobox which I can't seem to fix using the edit box. Can someone explain to me how to fix this? EutychusFr (talk) 18:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I've fixed it, I think. Someone was editing the template itself and appears to have left a bracket out somewhere. I've reverted the template back to a stable version and your article should look OK. TNXMan 19:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I was starting to trawl through the templates, but I couldn't find that one!

No problem! As an aside, you can see which templates are transcluded on a page by going into edit mode and scrolling down to the bottom of the page (the page itself, not the edit box). All of templates, hidden categories, and other info should be listed at the bottom. TNXMan 19:23, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

changing a template

I want to use the wiki infobox template for buildings but I have a problem with it in that it says "altitude" rather than "elevation" but when I change the word the function no longer appears...how do I fix this? Please notify my on my talk page. THANKS! —Preceding undated comment added 20:02, 3 September 2009 (UTC).

The templates are coded to accept only certain "code words". If you change the word, it no longer will return the correct information. The "Infobox building" template does not recognize the "elevation" word, not the "altitude" word. {{Infobox building}} has documentation and examples for all of the parameters that template will accept. --Jayron32 20:08, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Answered on talk page. Fleetflame 20:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

New Article: D.M.

Hi all,

I have created a new article about D.M., italian dancer and choreographer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:A_less_2000/Daniela_Malusardi

I would like an editor to have a look at it and tell me what he/she thinks.

Thank you!!!

--A less 2000 (talk) 07:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Without looking too deeply at the article, I can say that none of the material is cited using independent reliable sources. See this page for information on how to do that. TNXMan 11:52, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Also, it's all written in the present tense. Please let us know if you need help with English grammar, syntax etc. – ukexpat (talk) 15:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Ukexpat! I've changed the verb tenses. I'm Italian... so maybe I've done other mistakes... please correct everything you think necessary! --A less 2000 (talk) 16:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Question related to I.T

If Cash Balance is Negative throughout the Year, then wat r the provisions to b done n how adjustments cud b made, as per Income Tax act, 1961..... do provide the brief suggested answers. thanx.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karnaniank (talkcontribs) 18:01, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia will not do your homework for you. You may request assistance at the reference desk, however. They may provide you with pointers to get you started. TNXMan 18:08, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Home office's latest decition about people who are an illegally in UK

What shall I do , if I'm an illegaly in UK since 2001? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chimidbaldir (talkcontribs) 18:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk to a lawyer, we cannot give you legal advice. – ukexpat (talk) 18:52, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
lol Fleetflame 21:06, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Regardless, this page is "a place to get help with editing and finding your way around Wikipedia", not for advice of any other kind. hmwitht 00:15, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

WikiTrust

An attempt by Wikipedia to gain more trust of content on their site using a color scheme, the more orange an article is the more questionable it is. So if you see an article that is all in white you should be able to trust that information more than one that is all in orange.

It is yet to be seen if WikiTrust will be able to point to the false facts within the site. But inevitably, it will at some point give more credulence to information than it deserves, creating a false sense of trust in that information.

It would be better to allow people to view the information with a grain of salt than give a false sense that, what is still ultimately user added content, is something more than that. Of course, in reality most people believe whatever they read on the internet anyway, and those who do not verify the information they receive deserve the consequences of those actions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.86.13.102 (talk) 19:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

This does not appear to be a question. The purpose of this page is to give new contributors an outlet for problems, questions, or concerns they might have. Please consider using the sandbox if you wish to test. Thank you. Intelligentsium 23:25, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
When coming across incorrect information on Wikipedia, there are good and not so good responses. Fixing the problem by editing is a good response. Simply "flagging" it is not as good. Creating some kind of feature or alternate website controlled by a group of people doing nothing but flagging, rather than fixing, is a terrible idea. How is their judgement of right and wrong any better than Wikipedia editors'? --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 11:32, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Missing Text

Hi Everyone

I was searching for Vedic Astrology before stumbling into Wikipedia.

Here is the webpage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedic_astrology

I found some text missing in the following :

Page title : Jyotiṣa

If you scroll down to : Sub-heading : Rāshis – the zodiac signs

And go to : The zodiac signs in Jyotisha correspond to parts of the body:[11]

You will find Aquarius missing. So which part of the body does Aquarius correspond to?

Cheers Pussycatdolly —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pussycatdolly (talkcontribs) 04:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

If you look at the article's history page, you will see it was mostly written by one person. You should post this question on his talk page. You could also use the article's talk page. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 11:38, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Photos I create--Licensing

I have some content that I feel would be useful to put on wikipedia. I have good, published references. And I would like to put up pictures--photos TAKEN BY ME. Before I go to all that trouble, I would surely love to assure that they won't get speedily deleted due to someone saying the creator can't be verified or some other silly thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Headzred (talkcontribs) 04:36, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

This should not be a problem. Images are usually deleted when a violation or false claim is demonstrated. If you claim to be the author of an image, and there is no good reason for someone to challenge this, it should stay. Try uploading a few before writing or editing your article. Since there are no copyright issues, you should be able to put the pictures on your user page temporarily. You should state, in the copyright declaration, the name of the article where the images will go, but the article doesn't need to exist yet. As for creating an article, if you are worried about deletion, you should prepare your edits on a user sandbox page, and copy them to an article when it's ready. If something should happen to the article, it will still be in your sandbox.
It's great that you are being cautious about your first edits, and that you have awareness of what is acceptable at Wikipedia. But you can be overly cautious and timid, too. I was like that when I first came here, but after a few edits, and encouragement from others (I used to ask if a proposed edit was okay first, on article talk pages, but was told I don't need to ask about every little thing), I found things went smoothly, and I've yet to have any of my new articles or images deleted! --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 11:52, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Information Technology

What is the diferent types of range in hard disk in computer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.141.27.194 (talk) 06:22, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

You may find what you're looking for at Hard disk drive. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 11:54, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Otherwise, try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. hmwitht 00:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Sources and references in a different language...

Hi all,

since I'm writing an article about an Italian person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:A_less_2000/Daniela_Malusardi), is it possible also to report references/sources leading to pages written in Italian language?

Thanks

--A less 2000 (talk) 09:31, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you can use sources in other languages although English is preferred. See Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English sources. An Italian source can be marked with {{It}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:02, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

How this world created

I want to know how this world createted and the age of the wolrd —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vijayd07 (talkcontribs) 10:52, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

For scientific theories, see articles like Formation and evolution of the Solar System and History of the Earth if you mean Earth. If you mean the universe then see Big Bang and Age of the universe. Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. You may want to clarify whether you mean Earth, the Universe or something else, and whether you only want scientific theories or the beliefs of a particular religion. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:12, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
In case the OP meant the creation and history of Wikipedia, that information is actually in the article titled Wikipedia and History of Wikipedia. --Jayron32 12:03, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Adding an external link to Doulting's community website

Hi - this is my first venture into wiki, and I thought i was simply adding a useful link to the wiki section on my home village of doulting in somerset, but is has been reverted.

This is a very simple wordpress based website designed to give up to date information about the community of doulting, and i have seen similar links on other somerset village pages (eg cranmore, priddy, etc)

Has it been reverted because wordpress urls are assumed to be blogs? Or should I be getting the link moderated in some way before adding it?

Any advice on how to put this right gratefully recieved

JELLIES01 (talk) 11:37, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

A lot of information about why the edit was reverted, pointers to Wikipedia guidelines, and advice on where to go from here, was posted on your user talk page by the "bot" that did it. You have some reading to do! You may be able to find a remedy there. Best of luck. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 11:58, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Categories & Subcategories

Category:Wikipedians_in_Australia currently has

     [+] Wikipedians in the Australian Capital Territory (0)    
     [+] Wikipedians in the Northern Territory (0)    
     [+] Wikipedians in New South Wales (4)

but there is a Category:Wikipedians_in_Western_Australia. I've tried looking in the source but I can't find out why this one isn't put as a subcategory of Category:Wikipedians_in_Australia.

Also can someone explain why to do an internal link to categories you have to put a : in front of Categories (I do know about categorize.... vaguely). I find wiki code to be pretty confusing. 118.208.97.169 (talk) 17:04, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

The subcategories of Category:Wikipedians in Australia are sorted alphabetically by the name of the state, and the category has too many user pages to display all pages and subcategories on one category page. Click "next 200" to see Category:Wikipedians in Western Australia and 4 other states. If you write [[Category:Wikipedians in Australia]] on a page then you place that page in the category, and the category name is listed at the bottom of the page like the other categories. If you only want to link to the category then something else is required. The software designers chose to do it by placing ':' before "Category". See more at Help:Category. It's similar for files. If you only want to link to a file then place ':' before "File". PrimeHunter (talk) 23:09, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

My article may be deleted

Hey I was sent this message -
Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Last Step line, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted.

The page mentioned "Last Step Line" is a demo of the band Centaurus-A. In the message sent to me it says something about the page not being connected to Centaurus-A's page.


Please help.
Please Notify me on my talk page.


Centaurus-A (Band)
Last Step Line (Centaurus-A Demo)

Last One In The Noose (talk) 22:08, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

The article Last Step line is being proposed for deletion, because it doesn't meet the standards of notability set out at WP:NALBUMS. hmwitht 00:12, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Writing Guidelines

This question moved from WP:RD/C by user:Finlay McWalter, as this seems to be the most appropriate venue for the questioner's concern

Hi,

I am writing for assistance on new page generation, please.

We are in the process of working through our 1st Wiki page. We are adamantly trying to follow the encyclopedia requirements and not put a page out selling our ‘wares, as it will (of course and should be) deleted.

It would be nice to reuse some content already developed by others. We do want to link to other pages, but some of the sentences we have been working on over and over are shaping up like previous authors sentences, and we do not want to come across as improper, like the dreaded plagiarist.

You guidance is much appreciated. Thank you very much.

Kindly, Stephen H. Dawson —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shdawson (talkcontribs) 23:23, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I think the short answer is don't write an article which you have a conflict of interest with, see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. On the general topic of writing, Wikipedia:Plagiarism has lots of information.--Commander Keane (talk) 00:16, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
To follow up, if we are talking about JUT the conflict of interest is not terrible, the article is interesting and encyclopedic, but the problem my be that there are not any reliable sources to verify the information in the article. This may result in deletion.--Commander Keane (talk) 00:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
That article has been nominated for deletion using the AfD process. -- Finlay McWalterTalk 00:26, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

requesting feedback on a draft

I have posted the draft of a new article on my user page, but I cannot figure out to request feedback. What do I do now? Please notify /answer me on my talk pageBerkeleywalker (talk) 06:29, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Moving from subpage to mainpage

How do you move your article from a subpage to the main page once you have finished editing it?

David M Levy 15:22, 6 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmlevy 99 (talkcontribs)

When your account has been autoconfirmed (after you've made ten edits and been here for around four days), a "move" button will appear at the top of the screen (next to the "history" tab above articles). Since that hasn't happened yet I've moved the page for you and made a couple of cleanup edits to the article. Gonzonoir (talk) 16:33, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Move UTM Students' Union

New Title: University of Toronto Mississauga Students' Union

Full name of the organization is not UTM Students Union, it is University of Toronto Mississauga Students' Union, commonly referred to as UTMSU

The website is located at http://utmsu.ca and identifies the full name of the organization as University of Toronto Mississauga Students' Union (copyright notice at bottom) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter on Blocks (talkcontribs) 01:21, 7 September 2009 (UTC) Peter on Blocks (talk) 01:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

 Done--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 02:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

text

I'm at present putting together an article. Today, when i saved what i had done, the text remained in this kind of type, as opposed to the completed Wikipedia text... What did i do? Macneice (talk) 06:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

It looks like the work you have done is saved at User:Macneice/Ted Noffs, which is where it should be until it is closer to being ready. I am not sure I understand your question; perhaps you accidentally hit the "preview" button instead of the "save" button? --Jayron32 06:06, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I see what you mean, you put a space before the paragraph, making the text monospaced. For more info, see here. — QuantumEleven 07:46, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

What content is allowed to be added to wikipedia?

I am fairly new to wikipedia and just wanted to clarify what content is allowed to be added to wikipedia. Are there guidelines about what should and shouldn't be added? More specifically, if I have a long History about a specific surname originating in Europe and this history goes back to 1700s, am i allowed to start a new page for it? Thanks everyone for their help!! --Bsilic (talk) 09:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi there - the guideline you need is our notability policy. In a nutshell, "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article." So if you can show that there are substantial works, say books or scholarly articles, devoted to the history of this surname, then it is likely to merit an article. If you think your subject satisfies that requirement, see our guide to writing your first article for tips on getting started. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
But if the History is your own research, it is specifically not permitted on Wikipedia: see WP:OR. --ColinFine (talk) 23:12, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Rockers Mix (Pvt) Ltd. Zimbabwe

ROCKERS MIX

Rockers Mix (Pvt) Ltd. is a Technology company based in Harare, Zimbabwe founded in 1997 and is registered under Zimbabwe’s Companies Act [Chapter 24:03] .It is divided into 2 separate entities consisting of Rockers Mix Technologies (Pvt.) Ltd and Rockers Mix Entertainment. These subsidiaries are trademarks in their own rights.

Rockers Mix Technologies (Pvt.) Ltd is responsible for the technical aspect of the IT and Communications industry i.e. mobile phone software upgrades, re-installations, unlocking, repairs and sales. PC distribution, repairs, software installations, upgrades and sales. Designing, hosting and managing websites. Planning and laying structured cabling. Constructing networks and creating LANs. Routing, fixing and supplying PABXs and any other IT Hardware or Software.

Rockers Mix Entertainment is responsible for recording and promoting artists, video filming and editing, poster and banner designs, CD duplications, CD labeling and sleeve designs, TV adverts, PA systems, event management and any other related fields associated with entertainment.The link for Rockers Mix Ent. is http://rockers-mix.blogspot.com

Currently, Rockers Mix (Pvt) Ltd. is operating in Zimbabwe only and is planning to open another branch in South Africa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cosmas Goche (talkcontribs) 13:46, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello, if you want an article written about the company, you're in the wrong place. Wikipedia:Requested articles may be what you're looking for. However, the company does not seem to meet our notability requirements, and you need WP:Citing sources references from reliable sources. Check through these links, and if the company still meets requirements for an article, ask again. Further questions? let me know! Fleetflame · whack! whack! ·  14:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

How to add a reference?

How to add a reference? I am doing like this but getting rejected!


[1]

</ref>http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=49453</ref>

</ref>http://www.indianexpress.com/storyOld.php?storyId=33824</ref>

</ref>http://www.sabrang.com/cc/archive/2003/oct03/cover3.html</ref>

</ref>http://www.hindu.com/mag/2003/12/07/stories/2003120700020100.htm</ref>

</ref>http://www.torrentreactor.net/find/godhra-tak</ref>

</ref>http://www.thehindu.com/mag/2007/03/11/stories/2007031100190500.htm</ref>

</ref>http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/mag/2003/10/26/stories/2003102600200500.htm</ref>

</ref>http://www.himalassociation.org/fsa/filmsouthasia_film-list-2003.htm</ref>

</ref>http://www.sikhtimes.com/news_011704a.html</ref>

</ref>http://www.hindu.com/mp/2007/01/30/stories/2007013000440100.htm</ref>

Shubhradeep chakravorty (talk)

You should put the references in-line where they should appear like this: <ref>Reference Here</ref>. If the reference is used more than once, you should format it like <ref name="name">reference here</ref> for the first time, and <ref name="name" /> every subsequent time. Adding {{reflist}} to the bottom will put the list of references there.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail 22:41, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
See WP:CITE. – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

My article was flagged for deletion

My new article which i transfered to [1] was flagged for deletion since it was "promotional". I Would like to know why, for example, is [2] considered not promotional then?

I'd be glad if anyone helped me re-write the article according to the right formula. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuzi12 (talkcontribs)

As it is, the article probably could have been deleted under CSD A7 as well. Ks0stm (TC) 13:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
The main difference between the two articles is explained in our rules about notability - Dimdim has received non-trivial coverage from third-party sources (articles, reviews...), something that you haven't yet demonstrated for ShowDocument. If you add such sources (if they exist) as references, and expand the article beyond just a list of features, then I could see it being a contender to be moved back into the main article space. I hope that helps! — QuantumEleven 11:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you QuantumEleven, It does help. I tried adding references and will work on expanding the article - Fuzi12 (talk) 19:42, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Just kidding

where did the phrase "just kidding"originate and what is kidding? someones name or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.246.12.54 (talk) 09:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried the Language section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. — QuantumEleven 11:41, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
For kidding and kid, see Wiktionary definition here. – ukexpat (talk) 19:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Trade Union

Would a griveiance result in a Union contract--209.59.111.68 (talk) 13:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes, I guess... Have you tried the Humanities Reference Desk? They might know a little more about this.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 13:45, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Private page

How do I create a private page like this one User:Dinoguy1000/Status? NarSakSasLee (talk) 18:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

There is nothing private about that page, it's just a user subpage probably used by a script to display the user's Wikistatus. Generally to create a user page, just create a link on your user page like this [[User:NarSakSasLee/nameofsubpage]] substituting the page name you want for "nameofsubpage". Click on the resulting redlink and it will open in an editing box so you can add your text to it, then save page. – ukexpat (talk) 19:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Is there any way to hide your page from other people so they can't look at it or edit it? NarSakSasLee (talk) 19:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

All pages on Wikipedia are viewable by other editors. You can request that others not edit your subpage, but blatant personal attacks and copyright violations will be removed regardless of where they are found (not that you would be using your page for that, but just saying). TNXMan 19:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

The template below is being considered for deletion.

In the article Monreale there is small text at the top that says: The template below is being considered for deletion. See templates for deletion to help reach a consensus. What does this mean, how can I find out what's causing it, and is there anything I can do to fix it? Thank you so much. Jan1nad (talk) 22:16, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

It's because the template {{Infobox CityIT}} is indeed being considered for deletion; the discussion in question is Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Infobox CityIT. You don't need to do anything, unless you really care about the (entirely technical) nature of the deletion discussion (they're debating whether to replace it with another complicated template that most people won't notice either). -- Finlay McWalterTalk 22:20, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Finlay, that was a brilliantly quick response. Jan1nad (talk) 22:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
The message on the article was confusing and had a wrong section link because a detail was missing on the template. I have fixed this in [3]. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:36, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
And the link now does go the right place. Jan1nad (talk) 22:42, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

insert image

how to insert image on article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daveschaub (talkcontribs) 05:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at Help:Images and other uploaded files. You first need to upload the image to Wikipedia's image servers (noting that we have fairly strict rules about what is acceptable, see Wikipedia:Uploading images). Note that your account needs to be "autoconfirmed" (the account must be four days old and have made ten edits) to upload images. Once the image is uploaded, you can insert it into an article using the markup explained at Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. Hope that helps! — QuantumEleven 09:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
If the image is already on Wikipedia or Commons, you can just add [[File:ImageName.jpg]] (or whatever its name is) to the article. hmwith 14:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Information in article vs information in the source

I've just been updating and sourcing the discography for Matchbox Twenty. While I've been able to get sources for most things,I was unable to find information for three of the US charts on the Billboard website. Rather than looking completely unsourced I added a link to Matchbox Twenty's page on the Billboard website. I don't doubt that those charts are accurate and I think it would damage the discography if they were removed, but I am unsure whether or not I should keep the source I provided there. And if I shouldn't, what should be put in there instead. No sources?

Also,there is an issue with the UK charts. Using the UK chart stats I got all the recorded chartings for the band. A number of the charting listed in the singles discography weren't listed on chart stats, so i removed them. Someone has re-added them however, and included even more. I don't know much about the UK charts, but as far as I know chart stats is the only source avaliable on the internet. So should I remove the chartings not mentioned by chart stats or not? Hitthat (talk) 11:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
The article has a table with references in the column headings, pointing to where the information comes from. I've seen this method used in other articles. All information in the column should come from that source. You are correct to remove information that does not match. However, the other editors are probably getting their numbers from somewhere. (If they are just restoring info because it was there before, and it did not originate from them, this is not acceptable.) You should post a notice on their talk pages, or on the article's talk page, asking them to cite their sources. The column heading can have more than one reference. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 00:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

New rules about writing Wikipedia articles

I've heard that there are new rules about writing Wikipedia articles, but I can't find any notice of them. If there are, where would I go to review them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lseykora (talkcontribs) 15:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

  • I'll put a welcome template on your talk page that will I hope give you the information that you require. Paste Let’s have a chat. 15:43, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Are you referring to WP:Flagged revisions? – ukexpat (talk) 15:49, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

infobox

hello,

I'm doing the article about "West End Watch Co" and I have a problem with the presentation of the infobox. I think I put the right signs but it doesn't appear like it does.

If someone could help to resolve that I'll be really grateful ! Waiting for your comments, thanks in advance. ^^ --CINDY1983 (talk) 15:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

It appears that you left out a closing bracket. I've fixed it for you. TNXMan 15:16, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot ! ^^ --CINDY1983 (talk) 06:42, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

bodybuilding

does bodybuilding stop height of teens 13 to 18 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Musclebombared (talkcontribs) 01:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

We're sorry, Mario, but our Princess is in another castle. -Jeremy (v^_^v Tear him for his bad verses!) 07:54, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Although please note that we do not give out medical advice. Please ask your doctor if you are worried. — QuantumEleven 11:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

To share New Ideas & Question Answers

Please let me know how to upload my new idea and where to submit my questions, and then where to check for answer.220.227.219.142 (talk) 08:05, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not deal with "new" anything. As for where to ask questions, we have a reference desk where people may ask questions and receive answers there in turn. -Jeremy (v^_^v Tear him for his bad verses!) 08:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
He may be asking about the top-of-page banner that was up last week, asking for ideas for the future of Wikipedia. I don't see it any longer; perhaps the feature has closed. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 23:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Headers

How do i indent a level two heading? i have tried ===:level2=== and :===level 2=== and neither work... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bennas01 (talkcontribs) 18:16, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

You can't. As far as I know, all heading levels are automatically left-aligned and not capable of indentation, which, stylistically is absolutely correct. – ukexpat (talk) 18:31, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

How to add an image to an existing article

The silver dapple gene (a type of equine coat color) article does not have any photos of silver dapple duns, probably because of the rarity of the color (requires 2 dilute genes). The dun page doesn't have any either. My mare just tested positive for the silver (Z) gene by UC Davis and she also has the dun coloration (no genetic test for the gene, characterization is based on visible color traits). I think it would be nice to have some photos available for people - at this point there is only one well-circulated photo of an Icelandic stallion, "Ljosi," that comes up on different sites when Googling for "silver dapple dun." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambqity (talkcontribs) 20:18, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

You can find information on uploading photographs and putting them into articles as described at Help:Images. Some things to keep in mind.
  • The image MUST be one you own the copyright to outright. This means essentially that you are the person who took the picture.
  • The image must either be released into the public domain OR liscenced under an appropriate Wikipedia-friendly lisence such as CC-BY-SA.
  • The image must be appropriately tagged with the correct information, such as who took the picture, when it was taken, and most importantly, under which lisence your are allowing Wikipedia to use it under.
Image uploading can be frustrating for new users, because of messing up one of these steps could result in your image being deleted. Please make certain you understand Wikipedia's Image use policy before uploading to avoid any unpleasantness. Otherwise, we welcome any additions you can make to Wikipedia, and your photo sounds like it could be very helpful to our articles! --Jayron32 20:48, 10 September 2009 (UTC)


Hi I need help!!!

Hi i need help...any helpers? pogmaPogma (talk) 20:37, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

We all need help with something. What particular aspect of your life requires someone to help you? --Jayron32 20:48, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Jayron

Hi Jayron

I apologise here as i am new to Wikipedia..... i am on MSN now under <blanked> and that is also my email address. I reside in the and still do not know how to respnd to your help here so that is why i have some back to this section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pogma (talkcontribs) 20:52, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I've removed your email address to prevent spambots from picking up on it. TNXMan 20:54, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry i reside in the UK. pogmaPogma (talk) 20:55, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. It is not necessary to create a new header for every comment (Wikipedia is not a BBS). This makes it difficult for helpers to track what you write, as well as outside viewers (such as myself) to understand the line of conversation. As long as your comment is related to a previous one, you may add it under the previous without a new header. Cheers Intelligentsium 23:55, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

apology to oboma

why did you apoligize to the president when you were correct in calling him a liar, because that is what he is. you are a christan and we are told know the truth and the truth will set you free. therefore when you speak the truth you should never apoligize to some one that is telling a lie, by apoligizing it makes you look like the liar which you are not-----walter kelly (**email removed for your protection!**) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.2.85.104 (talk) 21:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment. Do you need help with something related to Wikipedia? – ukexpat (talk) 21:05, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Ready for publishing: D.M.

Hi all,

after having added some references, I think the article about D.M. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:A_less_2000/Daniela_Malusardi) is now eligible for publication.

One question: is it possible to add references consisting of newspaper articles, scanned and uploaded as .pdf files?

Thank you all

--A less 2000 (talk) 07:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Very nice :-) I am happy to do the move (I guess that is what is publication around here) just let me know. I will provide the instructions in case you want to try yourself. To publish you can go to User:A_less_2000/Daniela_Malusardi a click the "move" tab (to the right of the "edit this page" tab). In the move dialog box put "Daniela Malusardi". Alternatively, since you are the only author you can just copy the wikitext from User:A_less_2000/Daniela_Malusardi and paste it into Daniela_Malusardi and save the page.
You probably can't scan and upload newspaper articles as they are copyrighted. You can always use newspaper articles that aren't available online, I often do.--Commander Keane (talk) 08:11, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much Commander Keane! I've created the article!! What do you mean by "newspaper articles that aren't available online"? For example, I've the newspaper where Clive Barnes praised Daniela Malusardi (Maybe new york times)... Can I scan and put it on? Thank you again! --A less 2000 (talk) 08:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry I thought you wanted to scan a newspaper article to prove it exists (for referencing). I see you want to add it as an image to the article. Wikipedia are a fairly strict non-free content policy and I don't think a scan of an article is covered in the images section. I could understand a scan of a poster which featured the dancer, but I don't think a newspaper article would be used on Wikipedia. Someone at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions will have a better answer (or maybe someone else will chime in here). You can always link the article in the external links secion if it is available online.--Commander Keane (talk) 08:57, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you! Is it then possible to just report the exact words of the journalist, citing the date and the newspaper?--A less 2000 (talk) 09:06, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, if it is not too long and is attributed. The Manual of Style has some guidance on styling, but just quotations marks is usually suitable.--Commander Keane (talk) 09:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
There are citation templates available for this very purpose, see WP:CITE. Probably in this case {{cite news}} is the most appropriate. – ukexpat (talk) 18:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Here is my question

Jayron

I run a small non commercial website about soccer/football as its called outside the USA. I would like to use some information that is on this particular page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system

The user i assume who has added mostly or all to this page is:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Siva1979

I want to contact them to ask permission to use some of thier work on my website.

Also to chat to them about Football/Soccer

I am on Facebook as well.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pogma (talkcontribs) 21:01, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a free encyclopaedia. All works in Wikipedia may be used freely, without attribution to the pages' authors/contributors. However, it may be necessary to cite that you are using Wikipedia. Intelligentsium 23:45, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
If you wish to reuse content from Wikipedia, you DO need to cite Wikipedia as a whole, rather than the individual content editors. See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia for how to use Wikipedia in a bibliography, and Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content for republishing articles from Wikipedia and how to give proper attribution. And as noted, don't start a new section for every question, just hit the [edit] link to the right of the header above this section, and continue the conversation that way. --Jayron32 06:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
As noted above, you don't need to contact the user to get their permission, but you also indicated a desire to contact the user for other reasons. If you would like to contact them to discuss material in Wikipedia, you can post questions or comments on their talk page For example, the user talk page you are interested in is here: User talk:Siva1979. Click on the "New Section" button and add your comment or question. If you would like to converse with that user about Football/Soccer in general, not related to Wikipedia, you can email them. Start at their talk page, and look at the left side of the page under Toolbox, and you see a link to send them an email.--SPhilbrickT 14:04, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

hi

Dear admin , I know i have done mistake in my article by containing an valid external address i wish to guide me to edit it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsisbsis (talkcontribs) 10:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

The article you created is up for speedy deletion. I recommend you work on it in your userspace - here is a subpage that you can try on: User:Bsisbsis/Sandbox. Once you edit there it will become a blue link. When you're done, come back here and we'll let you know if it's ready for the Wikipedia mainspace. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 10:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Need to create a post with company information.

In order to keep it consistent with what is on the company information site - i reused the material on the Company Information. I am an employee of the Company and am in charge of building some awareness for the COmpany and chose wikipedia as a preferred channel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Apujar (talkcontribs) 11:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia is not a place to promote awareness of your company. All articles must be written from a neutral point of view and should not be written by someone with a conflict of interest. If you would like to request that someone else write the article for you, you can check out this page. If you would still like to try to write the article yourself, read this guide and submit the article to articles for creation. TNXMan 11:58, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandalsim

If you see vandalism on talk pages or nonsense like swearing, or shouting, can you/do you have remove it? NarSakSasLee (talk) 21:26, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Generally, the only reason to remove material from talk pages is if it is not discussion, but rather such items as useless off-topic rants, vandalism, graffiti, etc. Vulgarisms, misspellings, foolish statements, etc. should be left untouched. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:46, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
It's best not to mess with others' comments unless they are clear vandalism (and note that the things you mention may not necessarily be vandalism). See WP:TALK. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 11:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Crosses in lists of birds

In some of the Wikiproject: Birds articles, I find lists of species, some of which have crosses next to them. Is that supposed to represent the extinct species? I'm asking here because I went to List of casuariidae and I think there may be some extinct species that need to have crosses added to their names. There are only four extant (non-extinct) species in the family. MathEconMajor (talk) 21:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the dagger () does indeed represent an extinct species. I have added the appropriate daggers to the list you specified, but if you see this in the future, feel free to fix it yourself. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. Intelligentsium 22:30, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Spoken Wikipedia

Listen, im kinda new to Wikipedia and wanted to ask a question.

I have created a Spoken Wikipedia version of an article I have created. But I have some audio samples on my page which are not included with it. Can I add these to the spoken wikipedia version, Or will this break the rules?

Please respond on my talk Page

User99671 (talk) 21:47, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Adding Cite

Resolved
 – Smallman12q (talk) 19:35, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi - I'm new and tried to add a cite to a page I edited. Confused about the reference tags. I can just remove the cite - but thought maybe I'm missing something obvious? The page is under Aircraft Bluebook and the cite is the only one on the page - at end of 4th paragraph. Any help appreciated.

Thanks! USAviator1 (talk) 18:06, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I fixed it.--SPhilbrickT 19:10, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

'appreciate the help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by USAviator1 (talkcontribs) 19:20, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

The Hand Jive

The opening paragraph on your Hand Jive info is too much of a generalization and has not actually been researched at all. However, I cannot really 'edit' this particular para out altogether - what is required is some definitive qualification. A further example of my concern appears in the the second para where it is stated that The Hand Jive was invented in The Cat's Whisker - it was not. This information needs to be sorted out so how do I go about getting the overall article into shape? CaptainTurtle (talk) 20:51, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Try doing some research (Google books and Google scholar may be able to help) and adding additional references. Also, look at our Manual of Style for some guidelines on formatting. I would recommend splitting the article into headers (History, Popularity, etc.) and expanding on those headers. Otherwise, it's up to you. Be bold! Intelligentsium 21:29, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Muscovy duck

I live in South Carolina and we have a muscovy duck at our pond. He has started pulling his feathers out even his big feathers, could someone tell me if this is normal or if there is something wrong with him, it is a male.01:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.19.169.125 (talk)

Try the Science reference desk. Intelligentsium 01:44, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Wrong namespace

I am a new contributor and I mistakenly created a new entry page I intended to use as my User page Jeffrey Michael Bryant. I have a couple questions. This is flagged as a Conflict of Interest and would like to either have the page removed to have a third party sign off on it/edit it so its deemed acceptable. Also, my user page User:Jmbryant12 is similarly flagged. I'd like help resolving this issue of the COI flags on these pages. Thanks for any help to this new contributor. Jmbryant12 (talk) 01:36, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Such a flag should not have been placed on your userpage. You may remove it. If you request the page Jeffrey Michael Bryant be deleted, and you were its only major contributor, it can be, under the CSD criterion G7. You may do this by placing {{db-g7}} on the page in question. Intelligentsium 01:44, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I have however removed the categories and interlanguage links from your user page, as they are not appropriate in user space. – ukexpat (talk) 15:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Translated reference

I just added a reference to a news article that I translated using Google Translate. I just copied the format to the other reference in the article but I wondered if there is a method, or a protocol, for linking a translated page (perhaps so that you can link the original and the translated versions). Thanks Blu-Ray Betamax (talk) 09:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that would be necessary to have two links, but try asking at WT:Translation, they might know more. -- œ 19:13, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

How do I know wheather to upload as a stub or an article?

I am wondering how to know weather the document I have created should be submitted as a stub or as an article.

The document is verifiable, and is notable in that it describes someone who's criminal exploits have touched many people around the U.S mostly and worldwide as well.

There is not a page on this person. I do have outside links and 1 inside I have set them with the reference tag and was trying to check out my links to get them right, without saving just backspacing my edits when December21stFreak gave me a good hazing. I am new at this. I have seen some entries put up as stubs which are just a little shorter than mine. should I post it to my page first or should i just upload it as the page I mean it to be? I thought I was signed in , I guess not. Thanks76.248.150.236 (talk) 03:05, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

See WP:YFA and WP:STUB. – ukexpat (talk) 15:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

nanoelectronic

what is the advantage of nanoelectronic?202.54.195.66 (talk) 05:40, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Have you read our article on Nanoelectronics? You can also ask at the Science Reference Desk if you like. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 05:45, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
But we won't do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 15:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Protest against other users

User:Mrlodotcom always say that my English level is poor and says I am uncivilized. Am I an unwelcome user?--Antonytse (talk) 10:00, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually Mrlodotcom did not call you uncivilized, s/he referred to your revert style as uncivilized. Frankly, I think that was uncalled for. Speaking as someone who can only converse in one language, I'm in awe of those who can contribute in more than one. You are most welcome to continue contributing, but please understand that if you do add material that is not sourced, it can be removed. If you wrote it in your own words, it isn't plagiarism, but assuming you got the information from elsewhere, it should be referenced.--SPhilbrickT 14:44, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

SMAK PENABUR Gading Serpong

Hi, im vimala0421, it's about my contribution on page of Smak_Penabur_Gading_Serpong. Can you get it change the title onto SMAK PENABUR Gading Serpong? It's not because It's too over somehow, but that's just how the school name is. I just make a mistake last time when I caps lock them all, it should just on SMAK and PENABUR. SMAK is actually abbreviation on Sekolah Menengah Atas Kristen(Indonesian). We can say that in English, it is Christian based Senior High School. and for the PENABUR, it has been registered and copyrighted by the foundation that the name should only be written in caps lock. Thanks

12:55, 14 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vimala0421 (talkcontribs)

Sorry, but see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks). --Orange Mike | Talk 14:53, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

amending/correcting

how do i contact someone about the information in a section that i have good reason to believe is incorrect or needs an amendment?

Denbenenki (talk) 06:17, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Assuming the information to which you're referring is not backed by reliable sources, your best bets would be to add {{fact}} tags to certain statements or add a {{disputed-section}} tag to the whole section. Then, the article's talk page is the best venue to discuss it. However, if the article is a biography of a living person, and information is not sourced, remove it on spot. hmwith 10:29, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem. A lot depends on the circumstances. If you refer to [4] then there are apparently contradicting sources and you should see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Your edits say "has continously been deliberately and wrongly cited" about the majority view, and that the minority view "has been effectively suppressed the world over". It's not the job of Wikipedia editors to report The Truth as they see it when most reliable sources disagree. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:46, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I always find needed minor corrections

So I thought I'd register and make those corrections as I notice their need. Getting rid of a word accidentally written twice was easy enough, but now I find a word to be missing in an article, and I would not presume to know what it might be. I am wondering about the procedure; how do I notify someone that a certain sentence is missing a word? Do I just leave a note on the discussion page for the article?Neptunerover (talk) 09:12, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you could leave a note on the talk page, as others may not have noticed the omission. Or you could check back in the article's history - perhaps the word used to be there, or the sentence used to make proper sense, and someone (perhaps a vandal, perhaps not) has changed things into the current, less intelligible, form.. -- Finlay McWalterTalk 09:32, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Or feel free to be bold and take your best guess at fixing it. hmwith 10:24, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


Page seen as advertising

Hi I've been trying to get this page onto Wikipedia for some time but have been refused firstly for it not being notable and now seen as advertising, the page is currently here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Malstrome/Mistress_Absolute I've seen other article for instance that of Kylie Minogue that has simple content and references, so I can't see how it's considered advertising. Any help anyone can give (even editing) would be greatly appreciated. What should I take out??? PLEASE HELP —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malstrome (talkcontribs) 12:24, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

The wording is that of an advertisement (or a profile in a fetish magazine), not an encyclopedia article. It uses nonce-titles like "Mistress" to refer to the subject, is full of playful/kinky language, is not formatted according to our manual of style, and is sourced to what cannot be regarded as reliable sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:19, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

How does an article get transfered from (do I transfer) an article in my user page to the general Wikipedia

How does an article get transfered from (do I transfer from) my user page to the general Wikipedia? I can find what I wrote by logging into my page (Ligatne) and/or doing a search for the first words (Emilija Benjamin)and clicking on "everything", so obviously, it is there somewhere, but I would like it to go into the generally viewable files. I was told by someone who has worked with the Wikipedia, that it normally takes a couple of days for a new article to show up, but I wrote this originally on 7 September, so "a few days" have passed. I also uploaded a photograph/portrait (caption: Emilija Benjamin) to the Commons section. This is intended as an illustration for the biographical article. However at this point I have no idea where the photograph went, please advis e how i can find it and also how I can attach it directly to the article. Thankyou. Please do send the reply to this to my talk page; Thank you. Ligatne (talk) 14:28, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

You needed to move it into articlespace. I have done so; it is now Emīlija Benjamiņa. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
And I have created redirects at Emilija Benjamin and Emilija Benjamina. – ukexpat (talk) 15:41, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I also found the image that you uploaded to Commons (it's here) and added it to the article. – ukexpat (talk) 15:51, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

help with page uploading

how do i upload a pic of myself. trying to do a page of me.

Diamond Icee (talk) 16:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

You can find information on uploading photographs and putting them into user pages as described at Help:Images. Some things to keep in mind.
  • The image MUST be one you own the copyright to outright. This means essentially that you are the person who took the picture. If it's a picture of you, someone else probably took it, but if so you probably know the person and can get permission to use it.
  • The image must either be released into the public domain OR liscenced under an appropriate Wikipedia-friendly lisence such as CC-BY-SA.
  • The image must be appropriately tagged with the correct information, such as who took the picture, when it was taken, and most importantly, under which license your are allowing Wikipedia to use it under.
Image uploading can be frustrating for new users, because of messing up one of these steps could result in your image being deleted. Please make certain you understand Wikipedia's Image use policy before uploading to avoid any unpleasantness.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:29, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
More importantly, if you are intending to write and article about yourself, please read WP:AUTO, WP:COI, WP:BIO, WP:RS and WP:Spam as well as the pages linked in the welcome message that I just put on your user talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 19:51, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Tisdale Saskatchewan

Back in 1916 was Tisdale known as Eldersly 23:31, 15 September 2009 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.71.17.84 (talk)

Very interesting! Is there a question you have about using Wikipedia? Intelligentsium 01:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Use of images

Help! Hi, I'm working on a video game page for an MMORPG. I was asked by the the GM's of the game to do a page for it on the wikipedia. I have unloaded images that come from the official Flyff wiki http://flyff-wiki.gpotato.com/index.php/Main_Page All Content is available under GNU Free Documentation License 1.2. It states so on the bottom of the page. So I taged them with the GFDL template. There are so many differnet licences I'm lost. A certain user is continuosly taging my images for speedy delete saying they are not free to use. So I read a bit and put on the "Non-free media use rationale" tag now he's bugging me saying I have to many non free images. They are free to use. What do I do?

Jasenm222 (talk) 22:55, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Would you mind giving a few examples? Intelligentsium 01:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The page is Flyff. The question is how do I tag them?. They are free to use according to the site where they came from. Jasenm222 (talk) 02:12, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Link to the website where the images were which ALSO indicates that the images are released under GDFL 1.2 in the "source" part of the image identification template, and indicate the liscence as GFDL 1.2 under the liscencing section. --Jayron32 03:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
You could also have the website owners email Wikipedia's OTRS system to explain the situation and verify that the images are being released under GFDL 1.2. The process for doing so is described at WP:IOWN. --Jayron32 03:33, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I looked around and Gala-Net has many games here so I asked them to release a UbiSoft type license so I don't have problems in the future imaging their games. Jasenm222 (talk) 14:46, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Negative Content Unavoidable?

We are supposed to keep a Neutral Point Of View on articles about People, but what if those People the article is about did negative things? Like serial killers, how do we avoid making it sound like what they did wrong even if it was wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesniperremix (talkcontribs) 18:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

"Neutral" does not mean "not negative". It is perfectly possible to write an article about someone who has done bad things, while maintaining a neutral point of view. It's all a matter of context and sourcing. For example, you can say "X is a serial killer" if there are proper sources and you cite them. You cannot say "X is a serial killer scumbag who should be hung from nearest tree at the earliest opportunity" - that is not be neutral. – ukexpat (talk) 18:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Maybe you have seen them but there are policy pages at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and (in case the people are alive) Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:59, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Adding a word to wikipedia

Resolved
 –  – ukexpat (talk) 19:52, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I was interested in adding a word onto the site, as well as, the definition and origin of the word. How would I go about doing that? Nhibbler109 (talk) 18:59, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

You're probably better off adding an entry like this to Wiktionary. See our guideline WP:NOTDICT on why dictionary-type entities don't belong in Wikipedia. (Though feel free to tell us the word if you think it merits an encyclopedia article.) Gonzonoir (talk) 19:02, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Unless it's a new word without reliable sources, or something you just made up; in which case it belongs neither in Wiktionary nor here. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, actually Wiktionary does have a page for made-up words.. see Wiktionary:List of protologisms. -- œ 21:12, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info19:21, 16 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nhibbler109 (talkcontribs)

International X-ray Observatory article

Dear Sir or Madame, I'm a web curator of the International X-ray Observatory web site <http://ixo.gsfc.nasa.gov/index.html>. Recently, browsing over the Wikipedia I found the article that supposed to be about IXO, but in fact was about the Con-X mission, which is no longer supported by NASA.

For your information, IXO is the result of the merging of NASA´s Constellation-X and ESA/JAXA´s XEUS mission concepts. Here is a link to that article (that supposed to be about IXO) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation-X_Observatory. Again, as for now it is mainly about Constellation-Xand doesn't have references.

I tried to submit my article which is a join effort of all members of IXO group, but unfortunately I received the automatic respond that such article already exists. And i was redirected to the current Constellation-X wiki page.

So my question is, how can I contribute the article about IXo to Wikipedia?

I don't want to delete the current Constellation-X article. I believe that other options also exist.

I hope you'll help me. Sincerely Yours Olga Vovk OV 20:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Olga Vovk (talkcontribs)

Olga, sorry to pass you around Wikipedia, but you will probably get a quicker and more helpful response at the talk page of the Astronomy Project. It seems to be a fairly active page so I am sure it will not take long for someone to respond. Please get back to us here if you need further help. – ukexpat (talk) 21:07, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Article Creators?

Is there a way to find out who the user is that created an article?

And does he/she hold more control over the article then the other editors? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesniperremix (talkcontribs) 23:14, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Click the "history" tab to see the page history where you can click "earliest" to see the page creation at the bottom. See more at Help:Page history. The creator has no special rights over the article. See Wikipedia:Ownership of articles (which says no one owns an article). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:16, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Article Disappeared?

An article I have done substantial work on has just mysteriously disappeared. Now there is a just a blank page when I try to access it. Why is this? The article is Montrose Academy. Lcw27 (talk) 23:58, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Just wait. I currently see this note at top of pages: "Software updates are being applied to Wikimedia sites; we're shaking out some problems where some articles don't display correctly." It has been reported at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 65#Vanishing articles? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank You Lcw27 (talk) 00:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

The bug has been fixed. Affected pages which are still not visible can be restored by purging them. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Resolved
 – See Wikipedia:ANI#User:Philbox17. – ukexpat (talk) 13:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Would you please block User:Philbox17 account, he keeps deleting cited information from the article Réseau de Résistance du Québécois. This person is practicing article ownership, which can be confirmed by reading the editors user talk page User talk:Philbox17 and the lengthy problems this editor has had with this article. I believe this editor is a member of Réseau de Résistance du Québécois and lacks a NPOV. Thank you. 76.64.152.111 (talk) 20:53, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Please report this to the Administrators' noticeboard. – ukexpat (talk) 21:02, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually I have been over there and they are both bias, as Vincent has admitted to being a federalist and they both seem to be disrupting the article. Should somebody report both of them?

Template for photos

Just to let everyone know, Jayron32's answer for how to upload a photo is now Template:HDPhoto.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 14:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Please see the existing template at {{UPIMG}} (which could use some tweaking) and other relevant help desk templates at {{help desk templates}}. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I put them in a navbox that can be transcluded in a user page for ease of reference: {{Help desk templates navbox}}. – ukexpat (talk) 15:04, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

adding to Our Gang cast list

Our Gang (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Our Gang personnel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

My mother just past away at the age of 73 last month, she was a recurring actoress in the Our Gang (little rascals) series. How do i get her name listed? Her name at that time was Barbara Powell she sang, danced and had small speaking parts in the late 30's and early 40's. Please help me to get this info on Wikipedia. Thank you. I have a picture of her from when she was a child if that helps.

Suzzee Toon <telephone number redacted>

Hi Suzzee, You can edit the Our Gang personnel article yourself. By rights, you should provide a source for this information for verifiability but currently, the whole article is unsourced so we are not going to start picking on you. The picture you can upload at Commons:. New editors are not able to upload directly to Wikipedia but Commons is the preferred place for pictures in any case. You must release it under a free licence (so anyone can use it). SpinningSpark 13:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Duplicate article issue question

I came across a musical production duo working with rather significant people yet there is zero information on wikipedia about them. An attempt to create an article (they go by Skin & Bones) was prevented by a redirect from "Skin & Bones" to "Skin and Bones" (A Foo Fighters' album article) and I wasn't sure what the correct procedure was. I checked the spelling of the Foo Fighters release and it is indeed "Skin and Bones" with no ampersand used whatsoever. Would the prudent thing to do be just create a page with differentiation e.g. Skin & Bones (Producers) etc.? Or would it involve editing the redirect?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikitazer (talkcontribs)

No. I think you should create the page at Skin & Bones and use a hatnote to let readers know that there is a foo fighters album called Skin and Bones. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 14:11, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Per the manual of style, "and" is preferred in a title over "&." The "Skin and Bones (producers)" option would be better, but what about their real names? And "producers" sounds a bit awkward... anybody else have a suggestion as to what the title in the parenthesis should be?--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 14:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
From the Manual of Style (on titles): "The ampersand (&) is replaced by and, unless it is part of a formal name (Emerson, Lake & Palmer)." That would apply in this case if "Skin & Bones" is really how they bill themselves. Using their real names would be bad as the title of the article should be the name by which they are best known (WP:NAME) and this is almost certainly their stage name in this instance. SpinningSpark 17:58, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Also remember: just because the work with significant people, doesn't mean that they are notable enough to have an article here! Notability is not contagious; you can't "catch" it by working with somebody notable. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Good point. Despite the fact that they have an interesting looking and growing discography, they technically do not meet the standards for notability so I will hold off on the article creation. Thank you for the assistance folks.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikitazer (talkcontribs)

Adding Links

I'm a staff member at "On Point With Tom Ashbrook (NPR)" I am trying to add links to interviews that we have conducted and they keep getting deleted. I am not spamming and we are not promoting just adding information to people's pages. WHy does this keep happening. Pdrosso (talk) 18:50, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


I don't know what that means. Can i still post links with out being deleted. Pdrosso (talk) 19:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

You should ask on the talk page of the articles concerned, or else ask directly the editor who deleted the material (Ohnoitsjamie). You should also read the guideline on external links which explains what links are acceptable for Wikipedia. SpinningSpark 19:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Additionally, see our policy on conflict-of-interest. Link canvassing for your own organization (or in general) is frowned upon here. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Question

Resolved
 –  – ukexpat (talk) 17:54, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

How do i find some Open tasks that need to be done in the maintenance department, I want to Split articles, Update articles, Cleanup articles and so on.--Michael (talk) 23:49, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Community portal contains lots of open and ongoing tasks for you to contribute to. See the bot titled "Help out", specifically the "open tasks" section of that box. --Jayron32 02:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. --Michael (talk) 07:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Phyllis Lawson

Stared in the 1936 Flash Gordon Serial movie as Ming the Merciless's daughter, Princess Aura. She played the big breasted bad girl that tangles with Dale Ardin for Flashes affection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.88.217.130 (talkcontribs)

As yet, Wikipedia does not have an article about Phyllis Lawson. If you have access to reliable sources about this person, you can just create an article about them. However, please be certain that the person is notable as described at guidelines such as WP:BIO and that reliable sources verify her notability. The article must also adhere to our living persons policy. Otherwise, please feel free to create your own article about her, that's how everything else at Wikipedia got created. --Jayron32 02:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
The user will need to create an account and be log-in (and maybe be autoconfirmed?) before they can create a page. Otherwise they will have to go through WP:AFC.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 18:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Number of watchers an article - Trust , reliability, verifiability and accuracy

Is there any way of checking how many watchers an article has? Perhaps even number of watchers who've logged in in the previous month or so. I'm not looking for who but in total which isn't private. Ebay has a feature like that for auction items.

Also feel free to point out any articles about the subject line.

118.208.97.169 (talk) 15:03, 21 September 2009 (UTC) PS

I count myself as an experienced advanced user and navigating wikipedia is hell. Not sure I can add anything constructive though, just that it is.

There is Mzmcbride's Watcher tool. – ukexpat (talk) 18:08, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Categories and geo coordinates

I tried to get some discussion moving here but maybe it's more of a global issue. Can someone help the cause? -- 118.208.97.169 (talk) 15:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that you posted the comment on an archive, which are not regularly checked or viewed. If you have a question, you need to ask it on the current talk page --Intelligentsium 23:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
118.208.97.169 did post to the current page [5] but it was archived two weeks later with no replies. I don't work with coordinates but you could try Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:25, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Archipedition - LEED Facilitation, Architecture & Interior Service Providers

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External Links http://www.archipedition.com

Looks like you are trying to write an article here. You need to be a registered user to create an article. You can do that here WP:REG. If you don't want to register, you can suggest your ideas for an article here: WP:AFC. You also might consider Wikipedia:Article wizard 2.0, but you will have to register if you want to submit the article yourself.--SPhilbrickT 11:59, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

creating new entry

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 16:30, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

I am trying to create an entry for Henry Craik, as the internal link from the page on George Muller leads to a "disambiguation" page, which I am not allowed to edit.

As the subject's name is the same as this disambiguation page, I'm not allowed to create a new page.

As Craik set up a charity in 1834 that is still running today, affecting the lives of hundreds of people across the world, I believe it merits having some further information on the man behind the link in the Muller article.

Silver Shiney (talk) 08:37, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Silver Shiney, and welcome to Wikipedia! Since there is already an article with that name, you could create an article with the name and an additional word in brackets, for example Henry Craik (Philanthropist). To do this, enter the name you want for the article in the search box exactly as you want it to appear, and click go (not search). On the resulting page, there should be an option to create the page. Alternatively, if you think my example with philanthropist is appropriate, just click the red link here.
Also, you might like to have a look at WP:Verifiability for information on creating proper citations if you are not yet familiar with the code involved.
If you have any further questions about this, you can either as them here or leave a message for me personally at my talk page. Vancouver Outlaw (Speak) 10:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

That's very helpful, thank you very much! Silver Shiney (talk) 11:58, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Vancouver gave you some very good advice, but one issue (probably the result of a typo) should be made clear, the diambiguator (the word in parentheses in the title) should not be capitalized, as the link provided is, i.e, it should be lowercase: (philanthropist).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Viz, Henry Craik (philanthropist). – ukexpat (talk) 14:50, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Hi, I am new here, how do I meet new people? Doc Quintana (talk) 13:46, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a Social Networking site. That said, work on improving the encyclopedia, and you will naturally interact with many other editors.--SPhilbrickT 15:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
If you have particular areas of interest, there are a variety of projects where editors collaborate. Give me an example of your interests, and I'll try to point you to a relevant project.--SPhilbrickT 15:31, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
BTW, if you would like to work on a potential article, the place to do so is in a user subpage, not your user page. See WP:SUB for more details. Your possible project seems interesting, just be careful to avoid Original research; make sure everything can be sourced to Reliable Sources--SPhilbrickT 15:37, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

back Lake, Pittsburg, NH

The first week of June this year while on a fishing trip to Back Lake I filmed a video clip a bit over 5 mins long of which the water leaving the lake over the dam into Back Lake brook would start and stop. The flow over the dam during the video clip starts and stops 3 times. Now every time I have been there before I have never seen this nor did it do this the rest of the time we were there.

Why did this do that?

Brian Craig—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.137.124 (talkcontribs)

Have you tried the miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:01, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Editing with an IP address

I have a question about editing from multiple IP addresses - is this allowed? Millmoss (talk) 16:35, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

A good majority of IP editors do so under multiple IP addresses, since their IP is assigned dynamicaly from their ISP. To answer your question: yes, general editing with multiple IPs is not against the rules. However, using multiple IPs to edit war or to make other disruptive edits IS against the rules and can get a range of IPs blocked for a period of time, preventing others from using those IPs to edit. Livewireo (talk) 18:35, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Actually, the answer to the OP's question, as stated, is yes, it is allowed. SpinningSpark 18:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Whoops. You are right, I think I got wrapped up in my own grammar. I've corrected myself. Livewireo (talk) 19:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Even when editing from an IP address the points mentioned at Wikipedia:Sock puppetry#Inappropriate uses of alternative accounts still apply. -- œ 19:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your replies. Where I have come across this, the intent of the IP editor in question does not appear to be to deceive (he has acknowledged that the IP addresses are all his), but the effect is very confusing - there are no fewer than 4 IPs used by the same editor, on the same page and on the same talk page, creating the impression (albeit unintentionally) that there are multiple editors who are in agreement with each other, when in fact, it is just one editor. Some of these IPs are similar enough that people may suspect it is the same editor, but others are from a completely different IP range. I understand now that this is allowed, but it still seems inappropriate, because it puts an undue burden on the other editors to constantly ask the IP editor if a new IP is also him, and would confuse any new editor who does not check the entire talk page. Millmoss (talk) 20:16, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

The editor may not have a choice. He/She may use dynamic IP addresses, or edit from different places (Home, School, Work, Starbucks ;-). You can politely suggest to them that they get and use an account - it makes communication easier, it gives the editor useful tools (e.g. the watchlist), and it is actually more private than an IP address. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 21:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Well - he obviously has a choice - the one you suggest - to get a named account that unifies his different IPs. This has actually been suggested to him by several editors on the page in question and on several of his own IP talk pages. Millmoss (talk) 22:30, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
You should not harrass other editors to get an account. They do not have to if they do not want to. You are right, it is a good idea, but Wikipedia does not have registration as a requirement. The suggestion has now been made, if it is not taken up, leave it at that. SpinningSpark 11:54, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I have not harassed anyone. I have not even made that suggestion - it was other editors. I came here to ask if it was allowed, and I understand the answer is "yes". I pointed out the issue this creates - the article in question now has at least 6 different IPs used by this editor, which is confusing and misleading. Guess we'll just have to live with it. Millmoss (talk) 16:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

How and when does an article become visable to others

I am writing an article for the first time and don't know how to make it visiable to others. How do I do this? At the moment I have the user:username/articletitle at the top of the page. I assume it is viable to others and searchable when the article has only 'article title' at top of the page. Article is Little Giants (1987). Would also like help in editing etc etc!

Can you notify me the answer on my talk page?

Moonsunny (talk) 12:14, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

You are currently working on that article in your user space. If anyone wants to look at it and provide helpful comments, it is here: 'Little_Giants'_(1987)
That is exactly the right place to start an article. Short of serious problems like copy violations or libel, no one is going to propose that your article be deleted if it isn't quite ready.
However, it is not generally visible to others. People using the search option won't find it.
When it is ready for the mainspace, it can be moved to the mainspace. Once it is in the mainspace it can be found seconds after moving if you know the name, and within a couple hours if you use a search. You won't see a move tab for a couple more days, you need ten edits (which you have) and four days(which you don't have.) If you think it is ready and don't want to wait, another editor can move it for you.
I haven't looked at the content myself, so I don't know whether to recommend it be moved at this time, perhaps someone else will comment on that.--SPhilbrickT 13:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Looks ok with lots of refs but they are formatted as directaway links rather than inline citations that link to a reference list in the article. I would be glad to assist you with learning the standard inline citations if you'd like. It's pretty easy. Also need to wikify the appropriate terms in the article body.Mjpresson (talk) 08:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Njpresson - would love all the help you can give! Moonsunny (talk) 11:19, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry I must redact my response to your help page question. After looking more closely, there are a multitude of problems here:
  • It is a non-objective journalistic essay rather than an encyclopedia entry. Only objective neutral and verifiable encyclopedic information is acceptable.
  • You can't use wikipedia articles as references.
  • You can't use YouTube as a ref or even link to it.
  • There are no wikilinks.
  • There is a notability issue as Google doesn't have much of anything I could see.

I would recommend further learning about writing articles since this draft as it is would not be acceptable and would be deleted fairly quickly. Mjpresson (talk) 16:38, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Might just write it as a journalistic essay elsewhere. I feel the article is an important one - although may not as yet be fully understood. Perhaps that is why it is as yet not notable and requires some more years? Moonsunny (talk) 21:53, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I will address this on user talk page. (See your talk page) Mjpresson (talk) 22:50, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Aoife

Aoife de Barra a famous and well-known leader of Dungarvan, Co.Waterford. Greatly respected by the community of Waterford and twin town Erie, Pennyslvania. I do not understand why she cant be included on to the page of 'Aoife' as you have meer singers on the page. Thankyou very much.

It would clearly be appropriate if there were an article about her. Do you know enough about her to write an article on her? --SPhilbrickT 20:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Which Wiki Project is appropriate, if any, for presenting information on a church curriculum and social activism training DVD?

Hello,

New to Wiki, and not sure if the subject I'd like to submit for contribution is appropriate for Wikipedia or sister projects: I am a freelance writer asked to contribute an article on a curriculum DVD product offered for sale to churches and the public. The curriculum concerns social activism efforts to address social problems including poverty, pandemic diseases, social injustice, environmentalism, and generally living out one's faith, especially as it applies to being a Good Samaritan in one's own community. It is an interview-format presentation with dozens of teachers, pastors, social activists, and general public volunteers.

My question is if I present this in a neutral way, citing outside reviews of the product, and factual lists of who is involved, would this fit within the Wiki format, and where?

Thank you, --Grwikisteveg (talk) 14:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Editors are strongly discouraged from writing about organisations with which they are associated as this can lead to conflict of interest. It could be an acceptable subject for an article if written in a neutral and encyclopaedic fashion provided that notability has been established (particularly you should read the guidelines for notability of organisations), which means that the project is discussed in a non-trivial way in multiple reliable sources and other editors can verify this through the article's references. However, attemps at campaigning, sermonizing or other forms of POV are likely to lead to deletion of the article. SpinningSpark 15:06, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Determining the Title of a web page

When using Template:Cite web, what is the best way to determine the title of a web page? There are several possibilities I can think of:

1. Using the title in the blue bar at the top of the browser window. 2. Using one of the several headings that are likely to exist near the top of the web page. 3. Using the title that is used in the website's internal navigation bar that links to the page. 4. Trying to come up with a title based on the URL.

What is the best way to determine the title of a web page? As an example, when I look at http://lambda.gsfc.nasa.gov/product/map/current/ , two obvious candidates for the web page title are "Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe" and "WMAP Overview."

MathEconMajor (talk) 14:38, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest both separated by colons "Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe: Overview" going in order from the most general to the most specific. This can often be difficult, as many sites do not give structured names to their pages, but this particular case is fairly straightforward. SpinningSpark 14:51, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

semi-protected pages

Resolved
 –  – ukexpat (talk) 20:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Why can't I edit semi-protected pages. What is a established registered user?--Zink Dawg (talk) 18:59, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

In order to edit semi-protected pages, your account must be autoconfirmed. This means your account has been active for four days and made at least ten edits. TNXMan 19:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Does a Administrator change a my account to autoconfirmed.--Zink Dawg (talk) 19:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

No, it happens automatically. You've already made more than ten edits, so you should be autoconfirmed at 18:02 (UTC) on September 27. Deor (talk) 19:15, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Can I get my account (confirmed) then. It says, It can be granted by administrators.--Zink Dawg (talk) 19:20, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

 Done TNXMan 19:36, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank You--Zink Dawg (talk) 19:45, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Questions about citing books

I was citing the book "Science and Creationism: A View from the National Academy of Sciences, Second Edition" that can be found at http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=6024 . Using Template:Cite book has raised some questions for me.

1. If the authoring group's website lists the book as part of a set of books about a related topic, does that mean that the book is part of a series? For example: http://www.nationalacademies.org/evolution/Reports.html 2. When giving a URL for a book where the reference contains a quote from the book, should the URL link directly to the page with the quote or just link to the book as a whole? In this case, the page I want is from the FAQ after the book's conclusion, on page 28 at http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6024&page=28 . I could also link to the table of contents at http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6024&page=R7 3. If the book is available online in both php and pdf format at the web address linked to, which format should be listed? 4. I am a bit confused about what the "ref=" parameter in the cite book template is for.

MathEconMajor (talk) 01:31, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

  1. No, I don't think so. The books on the page you listed are by different authors listed together not because the authors are in collaboration, but by the website because they relate to the same topic.
  2. To the quoted page is best. A person can always scroll to the front of the book at say Google Books, but what we're doing by referencing is trying to provide the most transparent access to the material that verifies the content in the article, and the page where that material actually resides fulfills the heart of that function.
  3. Avoid pdf where a more accessible option is provided. Some people do not have Adobe (amazingly), and in any event Adobe has to load even if a person has it, while a php page just opens in everyone's browsers with no fanfare, new program needing to open, etc.
  4. See Wikipedia:Citing sources/Further considerations#Filling in ref field of cite-xxx templates. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

links out

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:16, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm new to Wikipedia and would like to know if it is acceptable to create an outbound link to my site from the Wikipedia article about the hometown where I live. If so, how would I do this? It was suggested by a web marketing person that I do this for my new, small marketing consulting business. Twitterdude (talk) 16:57, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

This is highly discouraged. See WP:ELNO for more guidelines on external links.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 17:08, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the guidance!

Adding JPEGs

Please advise how I can add a JPEG to an existing page. Franklin222 (talk) 12:24, 25 September 2009 (UTC)Franklin222

You first need to upload the image before you can use it. See Wikipedia:Uploading images. However, the image you tried to insert in good girl art is probably copyrighted and you cannot use it here unless it is released under a free licence. SpinningSpark 13:35, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Problems with getting a bio published

I admit that I made the initial error of writing my AUTObiography. WikiDan etal saw to it that it was rapidly deleted. The reasons they gave, were threefold:

a.- that I had written it... b.- that I lacked notability; and, c.- that there were inadequate third party references.

So, a third party, requested my bio information, and HE re-posted my bio. Thus it was not a "re-post" of an AUTObiography.... This time there were more references. And I thought that he answered the notability issue... regardless, it was almost immediately taken down. Claiming, incorrectly that it was a "re-post of a previously deleted page".

There was also a suggestion that I am self promoting. Well, that is ludicrous, and insulting. After 32 years in practice, I am near to retiring. I hardly need to self-promote. I am simply the best source of this information. I have tried to be objective. However, please see the pages of both my cousin, Calvin Klein, and my successor in the FIDE medical commission, Jana Bellin. Calvin's page is a virtual advertisement for their entire line. (OK I know he's better known than I am  :)

Adithya has suggested now that "I'd encourage you to rewrite your article, complete with sources, and post it here: User:Drsjpdc (your user space). Then, go to Wikipedia:New contributors' help page and post a message, asking someone to review your article." So, I have done so. This time, I really think that I have answered all the issues... except of course, this time, it is (at his suggestion of course) I who has had to re-write it.

If I could get some help from an Editor who does NOT have a predisposed dislike of Chiropractic, and can be objective in this matter.... I would be eternally grateful.

Drsjpdc (talk) 04:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I've replied to Drsjpdc on his talk page. Additional opinions/comments welcome. ƒ(Δ)² 05:50, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

2 Questions, regarding deleting articles and vandalism

1. I recently added a new page patroller user box to my user page and I keep finding articles that are nonsense and copyright infringement. How can I delete them?

2. I recently added a recent changes patroller user box to my user page and I keep finding vandalism. How do warn the users and then report the vandalism to Administrators.

I like some links to the questions above. Thanks--Zink Dawg (talk)-- 15:41, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle is good for both. Read the manual there. It's fairly simple to use. Make sure, however, that you are reverting real vandalism, not merely edits you disagree with. And report users only after they received a final warning (level 4 or 4im). Also be careful with the speedy tagging - familiarize yourself with WP:CSD first. If you can't fit an article into a speedy criterion and still thinks that it should be deleted, either WP:PROD it or nominate it for AfD. Don't stretch the speedy criteria. Tim Song (talk) 16:39, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
(ec)
  1. If the article meets one of the criteria for speedy deletion you can tag the article with one of the templates you will find on that page. An admin will then look at the page and decide whether to delete it. Be sure that it really does meet the speedy criteria though, see Ten commandments for speedy deleters for some common mistakes.
  2. The templates for warning users of vandalism etc are all at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace.
SpinningSpark 16:44, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

help me

(please help me ) This is a page about me/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Nicholas_Gomes

I want to add a pciture of mine in this page.please add my picture , I am not professional. I certify and insure that this is my picture in the bellow link ...

http://www.redtimesbd.com/details.php?cat=1&id=5785

to insure that i give you another link ... 

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=16324&size=A

please add the pic of frst link ..beacuse that show my face clear and the copy right of the pcture belong to me. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3346/3632606242_138ef8802a_b.jpg this picture was taken by th enews paper from my flicker page ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Persecutionbd (talkcontribs)

First of all, we do not really encourage people to write articles about themselves because it is very difficult to keep your own article neutral. If you are truly notable somebody else will come along and write it. If you own the copyright to the picture then presumably you have the picture in your possession. You should upload it yourself, either here or at Commons:, making sure you select an appropriate free licence. Nobody here will copy a picture for you from a website unless you can show the site is displaying a free licence for the image. SpinningSpark 08:25, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Counterfeiting

Can someone pls explain the concept of counterfeiting, what is being done to stop it, why is it happening, how is it affecting us, how is it happening, what is happening, etc. --Maplerox (talk) 14:56, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Have you read the counterfeiting article? In the future, these types of questions are meant for the Wikipedia:Reference desk. -- œ 19:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

How do I make my Subpage a new "live" page

I'm brand new and I've just made an article about an Irish Visual Artist called Sean Corcoran. It seems to appear as a subpage of my user name Bango Art/Sean Corcoran. Can someone help me to redirrect this to it's own stand alone position. I also see that when I hit the save page button the system tells me that there was a 'sean Corcoran' article recently taken down as it was deemed to be vanity or advertising. I think I have properly referenced the article and that it is worthy of inclusion. Thank you. Bango Art (talk) 23:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Without making any comment on whether or not this person is actually notable enough for an article (you can read WP:N and WP:BIO yourself), here is the technical way to move a page. In order to move a page, you need to be autoconfirmed, which means you have 10 edits, and have been registerred for 4 days. After both conditions are met, you will have access to new tools, one of which will be a "move" tab at the top of every page. All you would need to do is to move the article from User:Bango Art/Sean Corcoran (where it is now) to Sean Corcoran which would be in the article space. --Jayron32 05:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Please help

I have been on wikipedia for about 5 months...but I have only spent about 3 weeks total actually editing stuff. Anyways, There was a problem I had on the sustainability article...I gave my honest opinions and thoughts on it, and was instantly accused of being a sockpuppet for another editor. There was an investigation, although I wasn't present to defend myself, I was not found of any wrong doing or anything. Now, I came back(a few months later) to help the article and now an editor is constantly accusing and taunting [me.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sustainability] I just wan't to know if its Okay for him to do this and, if not What can I do to make him stop so I can contribute to the article. AdenR (talk) 23:05, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

It appears that you are still attempting to resolve things on the talk page, which is good. If it escalates any further you have the option to go through the dispute resolution process, or you could just ignore whoever's bothering you and just let it go and go back to enjoyable editing. -- œ 05:10, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't think ignoring will help now. Another editor is now doing the same thing. I don't have enough will power to start your suggestion. The atmosphere just fells weird now as it did in the past. I'm just gonna give up the article for good. Those people have been editing there for more than a year I think. I'll just go edit someplace else. Thanks.AdenR (talk) 15:28, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

On a completely different note, how can I create or get banners. I'm a cardinals fan...the ones who lost yesterday : ( I saw the ones on your page. I'm also a classical music/piano lover. I just learned Etude op. 10 no. 3 "Chanson De L'adieu" but am still a beginner AdenR (talk) 15:41, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Those are WP:Userboxes. – ukexpat (talk) 17:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

people of the same name as a page that already exists

I wish to create a page about "john hyatt" but the name already refers to another person of that name. What do I name the new page as? Hyattjon (talk) 11:48, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Common practice is to add a relevant parenthetical descriptor. For example, Tina Charles is a singer, so when the basketball player was added, her article was titled Tina Charles (basketball). Note that both articles have a "hat note" directing the reader to the other article if they are at the wrong one. You could create "John Hyatt(descriptor)" to distinguish your article.--SPhilbrickT 11:56, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Please make sure you read WP:AUTOBIO first.--SPhilbrickT 11:58, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Are putting the table of contents of books appropriate on wikipedia?

There has been conflicts on several articles on whether or not notable books should have a table of contents. But I noticed that some editors are inconsistent, especially the political books; and unfortunately a few thing books that promote their point of view should get a full description of content covered and a table of contents while books against their views merely get vandalized to a stub. Is referencing the table of contents of a book okay? World Views (talk) 13:23, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, including the table of contents on the actual book is probably not good, but a table of contents for the article is automatically created if the article has four sections.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 13:43, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, referencing the table of contents of the book is okay. Certainly an article on a non-fiction book should contain a synopsis of its contents; sometimes (and especially with an anthology) the best way to present this is with an annotated list of chapters or sections. See From Here to Infinity for an example. Wikipedia:WikiProject Books/Non-fiction article says that a "Contents / Chapters" section is acceptable. On the other hand, an article on a non-fiction book that consists mainly of a table of contents with no commentary is not going to win any awards for quality. Gandalf61 (talk) 13:53, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

A plea for help at Feedback

Those of you who like to help, but find the crack staff monitoring this page are answering all the questions before you can jump in will find gold at WP:FEED. Of the most recent 25 entries, no one has added feedback other than myself. Many articles have zero feedback. Even those with some feedback from me could use additional feedback, as I am only addressing some of the issues. (Cross-posting at Help and New Contributors Feedback)--SPhilbrickT 14:04, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

And you're doing an excellent job I might add.
Another page that could use some more eyes is WP:EAR: Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests. -- œ 05:54, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Entering an external reference twice and keeping the same number for it/indicating a reference with link no longer live

I would like to refer to the same article at different point in an article I am creating., How do I enter the reference the second time and ensure that the link will have the same superscript number

How do I indicate that an external link for an article no longer exists Ghislaine de Give (talk) 21:30, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

See WP:NAMEDREFS for your first question and the {{Dead link}} template for your second. – ukexpat (talk) 21:59, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Sports World Governing Body... need help withm re-post

The International Federation of Sports Chiropractic (FICS) is a legitimate World Agency, recognized by numerous other World Agencies, as the following will now show...

initially, I admit I committed the cardinal error of writing my own bio page, thus everything that was connected to it, regardless of merit, was by frankly knee-jerk reaction deleted as well, mostly as not being "notable".

Another Wiki Editor made the comment already that the "very fact of its being a World Governing Body probably makes it per se notable".

I have since been very generously given some serious guidance by one of Wiki's editors; Adithya; with regard to the structuring of my bio page. I have thus re-created a Page for the FICS, which is posted at my userpage User:Drsjpdc/FICS. I really think this is ready for prime-time now. Can anyone help me see that this is properly edited/posted?

It's really become a "catch 22". If the agency I founded is not considered notable, even though its recognized by everyone who recognizes agencies, then naturally the founder is also not notable??? Come on... please help me set the record straight. I apologize for my initial clumsy attempts.

Drsjpdc (talk) 00:17, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Let's do it like this. Why don't you provide, on this page, at least two third-party (i.e., non-self-published), reliable, published sources providing significant coverage (i.e., not a directory, not a one-line mention, but in-depth coverage) of your organization? I checked your article, the AfD, and looked for sources myself, but can't find any. Tim Song (talk) 06:07, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
You also need to take a look at WP:LEAD and WP:MOS for guidance on lead sections and layout. The notability issue is the most pressing one. Sometimes one just has to accept that an organisation may not be notable for Wikipedia purposes. – ukexpat (talk) 15:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

OK.... here's ONE - [6] Written by the Aussie who took the reigns from me, when I stepped down as President. Here's TWO - [7] Here's THREE - [8] Here's FOUR - [9] and so forth....

FICS Summer World Report | chiroweb.com ... FICS Summer World Report. ... The ISU agreed to continue the use of FICS DCs at its events, of which six were selected for the upcoming season. ... [10] - 47k - 2001-10-08

FICS Team Ventures to Cairo for All-African Games | chiroweb.com ... FICS Team Ventures to Cairo for All-African Games. FICS Accepted as Member of International Sports Federation. ... FICS Accepted as a Member of GAISF ... [11] - 42k - 1991-12-20

FICS Symposium, South Africa; Sports Federations Meeting, Japan ... ... FICS Symposium, South Africa; Sports Federations Meeting, Japan. ... FICS gave the instrument to Technikon Natal to use for research validation. ... [12] - 44k - 2000-02-07

Dr. Bertamini is Elected FICS President | chiroweb.com ... Dr. Bertamini is Elected FICS President. By Editorial Staff. FICS Members. FICS members pose under the watchful eyes of DD Palmer ... [13] - 44k - 1995-12-04

FICS Representatives Attend World Track and Field Championships in ... ... FICS Representatives Attend World Track and Field Championships in Tokyo. By Editorial Staff. ... FICS began in 1986 and currently has 48 nation members. ... [14] - 41k - 1991-10-11

FICS DCs Treat Olympic Athletes as They Prepare for Games ... ... FICS DCs Treat Olympic Athletes as They Prepare for Games. ... Once again, Mr. Ron Davis asked for assistance in supplying chiropractic care from the FICS. Drs. ... [15] - 44k - 1996-10-07

FICS Doctors Treat Athletes at All-African Games | chiroweb.com ... FICS Doctors Treat Athletes at All-African Games. ... The FICS doctors encourage other DCs to join the organization and participate in events such as these. ... [16] - 41k - 1992-09-11


OK, they're published in a Chiropractic Newspaper. But it goes to every known Chiropractic Physician on Earth... i.e., some 55 nations, and a circulation of around 60,000. IS this a start???

Drsjpdc (talk) 04:20, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I checked a few - what we need, if you read our notability guidelines, is third-party sources.


I strongly recommend that you read that guideline, and then pick the sources that you feel satisfy those criteria, and then drop me a message on my talk page. BTW, please don't use my editor review page for leaving messages. Tim Song (talk) 04:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I am a new contributor and someone has a problem with me and I don't know why.

I am a new contributor and someone has a problem with me and I don't know why. I have been wary about editing again due to being threatened by user Mezaco . I made a change on the Golden Girls article and left my reason why on the discussion page.I was under the IP 65.1.220.130 on the discussion page. You can find it here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Golden_Girls#Blanche.27s_children. User Mezaco said I was "abusive" to him and then came to my talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:65.1.220.130 and threatened to have me banned. I don't know how I was abusive? Now I am scared to edit because I don't know what I did wrong? If anyone can see how I was abusive on the discussion page please let me know.--68.19.253.42 (talk) 05:47, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

God, that dispute was 5 months old - no one would have remembered it if you hadn't brought it up. Just let it go, okay? No one's going to block you unless you do some really horrible things. Tim Song (talk) 05:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

It does not matter how long ago it was. It seems like you Timsong and Mezaco both have attitude problems. My gosh you can't say anything on here without some smart ass reply. --68.19.253.42 (talk) 18:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Note: In light of this I just gave him a {{uw-npa3}}. Tim Song (talk) 19:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I have been accused of writing "nonsense" and copying verbatim and pasting text from a book.

I have never merely copied text, but recounted in my own words what I have read. My material on John Henry Cox was admittedly incredulous, but neverthless true, as I thought I had proved by quoting the reference to it in the Swedish National Archives, which my accuser chose to ignore. It is impossible to know what to do in the face of such accusations. I have submitted many small items in an attempt to find my way, but none of this has appeared. Charles Dawson (talk) 13:53, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Another editor has already confirmed that this person is copying stuff direct from an old book and, even if the book is in the public domain, his approach to editing is not acceptable as editors must write using their own words based on verifiable sources with selective quotations. All this is in the site guidelines such as WP:MOS. This editor has had edits reverted several times because his work resembles newspaper columns with no paragraphs, no structure, umpteen errors and most, if not all of it, copied straight from another source. He repeatedly and deliberately ignores requests to study the guidelines and persists in uploading stuff that is frankly unreadable. I suspect that his actions are deliberate and verging on vandalism. ----Jack | talk page 19:47, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Help - Conflict of Interest

Resolved
 – speedily deleted as overly promotional. – ukexpat (talk) 18:32, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I have created a Wikipedia page for Valeisha Butterfield. All information is accurate and has sources listed. Please help by doing whatever is needed to verify and approve this page.

Valeisha (talk) 14:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I am afraid I have nominated it for speedy deletion as to me it reads like a press release or a c.v.. If it is deleted, I suggest that you wait for someone else to write an article about you, or head over to Articles for creation and request that it be created. – ukexpat (talk) 15:52, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Down's syndrome

if elder brother is suffering from downs syndrome will it affect the other brother and sisters? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.204.144.158 (talk) 04:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

We have an article about Down syndrome but note that Wikipedia does not give medical advice. Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

hai

hai!

i login this webside,i know this is value.how to work bookmark in this side@ regisister my web links? please replay to me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kesavan0 (talkcontribs) 05:41, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

If you want to know how to create a bookmark to Wikipedia on your browser, it depends which browser you use. On most of them, click "Bookmarks" at the top of the window, then click "Bookmark this page". As for registering your web links, I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Do you mean creating an article? If so, see WP:Your first article. hmwith 12:19, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
If you want to add links to another site on an existing article, see WP:EL. hmwith 12:20, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Ronnie Jagday wiki

hi, my job has changed. I am now a PM, at Cisco Systems in the Corporate Finance department.

Who makes the update?


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ronnie_Jagday&action=edit&section=2

128.107.239.233 (talk) 19:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello. Thank you for your interest in Wikipedia. Here at Wikipedia, we value verifiability over truth. Therefore, we would prefer to have a reliable source that this has indeed happened. If you are indeed the subject of this article, you should have no trouble making or finding a statement by such a source confirming this. We apologize for any inconvenience. Intelligentsium 22:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)