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Enlarging text editor font

Helped
Hi,

Without using an external text editor, is there a way of enlarging font size in Wikipedia's text editor? It is getting more challenging to edit with the default font size. thx MauraWen (talk) 12:17, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @MauraWen: in Windows, you can press [CTRL] and the [+] key together to zooom in and enlarge the font size. Does that work for you? Orville1974^talk 13:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Instructions for zooming in in the Apple browser are located here: [1]. Orville1974^talk 13:15, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, @Orville1974:. With my Macbook Air, the Command key and the [+] key enlarges font size. I tried that before and it enlarged the font size, but I also lost the almost page wide editing area that I like working in. Is there a way of getting rid of the menu bar on the left when I use Commmand & [+] to give me the larger font size and aslo have a screen wide text editing area? MauraWen (talk) 13:28, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

MauraWen, adding .mw-editfont-monospace { font-size: 16px; } to your common.css seems to work. (You can change "16px" to whatever size you want.) Eman 235/talk 13:33, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Eman235, I am not familiar with the common. css. Do I create a common.css page with my name and add the code you provided or do I do something else? thanks for your help. MauraWen (talk) 13:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Pretty much, yes—create User:MauraWen/common.css like you would any other page, with the text being that code. Eman 235/talk 13:59, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

BIlingual

Is there a bilingual userbox?Swiggity Swooty Swag (talk) 15:59, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey User:Swig swoot. The userboxes that most people use to indicate what languages they speak and their level of proficiency can be found at Wikipedia:Babel. GMG ^talk 16:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Cleanup Pages

I want to edit some pages. What are some pages that need minor spelling errors and citations?Swiggity Swooty Swag (talk) 15:34, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

@Swig swoot: Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to help with typos. Check out the Typo Team page at WP:TYPO, which has links to help search for pages with typos that need fixing. RudolfRed (talk) 15:43, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

@Swig swoot: In addition to what RudolfRed said, there's the community portal which has a list of articles that are tagged for improvement. I also like to look at newly created articles at Articles for creation, because they often need copyediting, wikilinks, categories and other minor edits. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 16:10, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Help with referencing

Hello, my name's Max. I'm having some trouble with successfully submitting a draft page for Wikipedia on the UK political opinion website 1828 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:1828_(website)). It has so far been declined twice due to insufficiently adequate referencing. The site is well-known, however, and due to the relatively recent birth of the political opinion and aggregator sites, I suspect that the draft is not being viewed in the correct context. I also have trouble seeing the differences in referencing quality with the similar Wikipedia page on CapX. Could anyone please help me sort out this referencing problem or even have a look at the draft page and tell me what I'm doing incorrectly? Maxbrunoyoung (talk) 17:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Convenience link: Draft:1828 (website) --valereee (talk) 17:07, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Maxbrunoyoung: What the review is asking for is significant coverage of the subject from reliable, independent, third-party sources to demonstrate the subject's notability. It's not a lack of references, it's a lack of the right type of references. Review those three Wikilinks, and search for references that meet the criteria to include in the article. Without them, you won't be able to demonstrate that your subject meets Wikipedia inclusion standards. Orville1974^talk 17:19, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Move into mainspace?

I've created a draft article at Draft:Paul Gitsham, but my memory of the getting-things-into-mainspace process is rusty. How do I go about that? Thanks in advance.Wodgester (talk) 16:35, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Wodgester: Your article is not ready for the mainspace yet. Please review John from Idegon's notes on the declined submission template for what needs to be improved. Orville1974^talk 17:21, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

My account seems to have disappeared

When I try and log in my password doesn't work, and when I ask for a new password via my user name it indicates that there is no associated email address, and when I use my email address I get no response. Do accounts die through lack of use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.218.28 (talk) 20:29, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Accounts do not disappear; if your password does not work or you forgot it, and you did not add an email address to your preferences, there is nothing that can be done. You can create a new account and identify it as a successor account to your old one. 331dot (talk) 20:36, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

When an account is set up with a valid email and a password, it will not die from lack of use. When it is set up without an email and the password is forgotten, then it dies.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:42, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Autobiography

Can one edit his biography on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buvic (talk • contribs) 20:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Buvic Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please read WP:AUTO; editing an article about yourself is highly discouraged, but you may make edit requests on the article talk page. Keep in mind you will need independent reliable sources to support any changes you want, we can't just take your word for it. You should also confirm your identity with Wikipedia by following the instructions at WP:REALNAME. 331dot (talk) 20:42, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Buvic. You will want to read WP:AUTOBIO for clarificaton on your autobiography.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:47, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Newpaper/Magazine Article Question RE Copyright vs Free

Hello, I'm new to wikipedia editting and trying to understand copyright vs free content as it relates to newspaper and magazine articles. I see many wiki article references are press articles - newpapers, magazines, etc. However, most press companies typically have a general copyright policy for their content. Are the rules for press publications different than other publications, like books? When can press (magazine/newspaper) content be referenced, and when can't it? Thanks very much for any clarification! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmarchitect1902 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

You can reference it, and summarize/paraphrase it in your own words either way. Copyrighted content cannot be copied and/or uploaded to Wikipedia. Orville1974^talk 16:34, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

In the U.S., news reporting usually falls under the fair use rule. Regardless, as was stated, you need to paraphrase (if not using a quote) and always cite the source of your article. Darwin Naz (talk) 23:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Archival Reference Source Questions

I am currently hoping to update the Martin Anderson (economist) Wikipedia page and have a couple questions about citations:

Can I use primary sources from an archive as citation sources/reference (as opposed to “Further readings” or “See also”)? The collection is open to the public and I would only refer to materials that are open to the public.
There are also a couple manuscripts in the collection that were never officially published; would it be okay to include information about them in the Wikipedia page? They are not published sources, but the materials are accessible to the public since they can be viewed in an archives reading room (for free). — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeeH Writer (talk • contribs) 21:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @LeeH Writer: When you say primary sources, do you mean the subject wrote the material? If so, aside from some minor, uncontroversial facts, primary sources are normally not considered reliable. As a separate issue, as long as the manuscripts are accessible, then they meet the criteria for verifiability. So, it may be that the information is verifiable, but not reliable. WP:PRIMARY goes into more detail about the use of primary sources. Orville1974^talk 22:36, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the information @Orville1974:. The sources that I am talking about were either created by or for the subject (e.g., policy documents, reports, correspondence, notes, speeches, educational achievements). I was hoping to be able to use that as example for the types of policies that the subject helped to create or as proof as to the professional relationships between the subject and other individuals (e.g., the subject and this individual worked to create this policy, the subject and this individual worked on this book together).

Hello, LeeH Writer. That sounds to me like original research, which is not accepted in Wikipedia. If you find an independent source that says the subject helped to create a policy or had a relationship with another individual, that's fine. But the only thing you could say that referenced the document is that the subject wrote that document, or wrote certain words in it. You may not offer any kind of interpretation or conclusion either from the words or from the fact that the subject wrote them - and in the absence of an independent source discussing the matter, I doubt that those facts would be encyclopaedic. --ColinFine (talk) 23:10, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeeH Writer (talk • contribs) 23:13, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

@LeeH Writer: This discussion might benefit from details of who/what/where we are talking about. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:15, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@AlanM1: I was wondering if I could use material from an archived collection of Martin Anderson's (items he created or that were created by others for him) to provide facts about his life (e.g., education, career, publications). I would only report the facts of the material (e.g., Anderson worked with [person] during [time] in his career, Anderson created various documents pertaining to [policy, idea, work]).

submiting a notable person

i am trying to create a page for mathew mcintyre who acheived a world record for being the youngest person to ride a motorcycle across america coast to coast at the age of 14 192 i have 3 sources 2 are articles on the internet and the third i have a scan of a magazine arcticle i had tried to make the article on mathew mcintyre before but i did not write it correctly and it was deleted i was wondering if anyone could help me with this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Killgood (talk • contribs) 18:02, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I googled his name but couldn't find anything, I don't think he is notable enough; it seems that achieving that record was his only accomplishment. You can follow this link however if you think you can write a good-enough article about him. Cheers! NightBag10 (talk) 19:13, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

MM had a nice cross-country ride with his father and grandfather, but I doubt that makes him notable by Wikipedia criteria. David notMD (talk) 21:23, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Killgood, it's a very common misconception that what people have done decides whether or not they should have a biography here. That is not correct. What decides if a person has a biography is how much they have been written about in detail by reliable secondary sources. Frankly, even if his ride had been covered widely by reliable sources, he probably still wouldn't qualify for a biography per WP:BLP1E. John from Idegon (talk) 02:10, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

thank you for your input he did have a nice country and was the youngest person to do so 14 years and 192 days on two wheels as far as we are aware we have more sources and documented publications that noted this i understand you may not see it as notable but i have the sources and i'm asking what would be the best way to present the information if anyone is interested in helping me make the best article i can whether it gets deleted or not i would also think that a three generation ride across the entirety of america coast to coast would be pretty notable on its own mathew mcintyre has also had his pottery art featured in two notable art galleries if that helps his notability at all any help and criticism is appreciated — Preceding unsigned comment added by Killgood (talk • contribs) 18:02, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Gelbvieh remove an image

Good morning, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelbvieh https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Gelbvieh.jpg/220px-Gelbvieh.jpg is the image address. This image is a terrible example for a cow and should not be published as it is not representative of the breed.

Can this image please be removed?

Sarah Canadian Gelbvieh Association, CEO — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.77.77.252 (talk) 14:35, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello Sarah. That image is in Wikimedia Commons, which is a separate project from Wikipedia, and really you should ask at Commons:Commons:Help desk. But it seems to me that you are well-placed to upload a better image. The slightly tricky bit is that the copyright owner needs to release the image under a licence which will allow anybody to reuse it for any purpose. If you have a picture you took yourself, you can just upload it, and license it as you do so: see Help:Upload. If the copyright belongs to somebody else, then you need to get them to follow the procedure in donating copyright materials, assuming they are willing. --ColinFine (talk) 17:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP 70.77.77.252/Sarah. As ColinFine points out, you can upload a better image to Commons if you want and then add that to the article. Just take a look at c:Commons:Licensing to find out what kinds of images Commons accepts.

As for removing the image from the article, you can be WP:BOLD and do that yourself by removing the file's syntax from the article. The way you do that is go to the article and click on "Edit", find the syntax (it's [[Image:Gelbvieh.jpg|thumb|Gelbvieh cow]]) in the editing window and then remove it. If you do this, please make sure to leave an edit summary explaining why and also please click "Show preview" first to make sure you haven't accidentally removed anything else as well. Once you've checked everything, click "Publish changes" and the file will be removed. Removing it from the article, however, might not be something that other editors disagree with; so, if someone else re-adds the file, please follow WP:BRD and discuss the image at Talk:Gelbvieh and see if you can establish a consensus for the change you want to make. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:20, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Adding an Article about an organisation

I am keen to upload information on my organization onto Wikipedia - but am unable to establish how that is done - please help me. Someone. Anyone. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nomathemba2019 (talk • contribs) 09:13, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@Nomathemba2019: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I don't mean to disappoint you, but it is strongly advised that you not attempt to write about your own organization. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a place for people or businesses to merely tell the world about themselves. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia has articles about subjects shown with independent reliable sources to meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability; for organizations, that is written at WP:ORG. Wikipedia is not interested in what an organization wants to say about itself, only in what third parties say about it. Further, you have what we call a conflict of interest and you may be a paid editor(compliance with that policy is required by the Terms of Use if you are). Wikipedia is looking for articles that have a neutral point of view, which is hard for someone associated with the subject to have. If you just want to tell the world about your organization, you should use social media like Facebook, your own website, or some other alternative forum.

If you truly feel that your organization meets the notability criteria and merits an article(not every organization merits an article, even within the same field) you may visit Requested Articles to request that someone else write about it. 331dot (talk) 09:32, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

My edit appearing as an IP edit?

Hello, after reverting an edit on Song Joong-ki for having no citations, I realized that the edit was true, so I tried to add the content back with citations. However, when I clicked "publish changes," an error message kept popping up, so after trying again a couple of times, I decided to wait for a couple of minutes. Then, when I looked at the page history, I saw an edit under an IP editor with the exact edit that I was trying to make, word for word. I'm confused? William2001^(talk) 01:18, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Okay, clearly, there is something wrong with Wikipedia right now. When I tried to ask this question, I again got an error message. When I tried again, it told me that I have an edit conflict, so I clicked the resolve conflict button. Then, the website suddenly loaded and now there are two copies of this question? William2001^(talk) 01:22, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

By the way, this is the edit: [2]. This is exactly what I tried to type, including the source. I'm just worried because although it is not a big deal in my case, a technical problem like this can wrongly accuse someone of vandalism. William2001^(talk) 01:25, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

I understand that there could be a problem with my computer, instead of the website. However, all other sites seemed to load correctly; only Wikipedia was extremely slow to load with many error messages. William2001^(talk) 01:29, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @William2001: The same thing happened to me and I was convinced it was a bug (and panicked about the implications of one editor's input being attributed to another). I ended up messaging the other editor and it turns out it was just a coincidence. Details here: User talk:Jjj1238 Orville1974^talk 01:59, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@Orville1974: Thanks for letting me know, but I'm not sure if my case is a coincidence. My edit was a sentence long, and the probability of a coincidence decreases significantly as an edit becomes longer. It seems very unlikely for someone to write the same whole sentence and the same manual citation at the same time by chance. I'll keep an eye on it to see if this happens ever again. Let's hope that this is an isolated incident, which I'm sure it is (otherwise, Wikipedia would be in chaos by now). William2001^(talk) 02:09, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@William2001: Reaching out to the IP editor might confirm the bug or the coincidence. You might also consider verifying if the IP being shown is the one you're currently connected from. Just typing what's my IP in Google will tell you. (Of course you don't need to confirm anything here). Orville1974^talk 02:19, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@Orville1974: That's a good idea, but unfortunately, that is not my IP address. Even if it was, I guess it would still be an interesting (to say the least) problem where a user spontaneously logs-out then logs-in automatically. I have contacted the IP user. Thanks for the advice. William2001^(talk) 02:29, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

May be a consequence of how edit conflicts are now handled. If the IP editor was presented with the choice of 2 edits, he may have chosen yours. And there was indeed a short period this morning when the Wikipedia server wasn't responding until it woke up again. David Biddulph (talk) 09:43, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Is it possible to have a warning removed?

This is (DashGraham (talk) 14:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC)). I got a warning for inserting links that were considered spam. I am new to editing and don't want to be blacklisted. Is it possible to have the warning removed? I am committed to the integrity of Wikipedia and feel embarrassed about my mistake.

@DashGraham: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You are permitted to remove content from your own user talk page, though it is stored in the edit history. Removing it is considered an acknowledgement that you read it. As long as you change your behavior, you should not have any mistakes held against you, even if you didn't remove warnings. 331dot (talk) 15:21, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@DashGraham: There is a couple of exceptions to removing user talk page posts, such as unblock request reviews while blocked, but in general you can control what appears on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 15:22, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@331dot: - Thank you! I am so grateful for your help. I have another questions for you. How do I figure out which literary journals are held in high regard by administrators of Wikipedia? (DashGraham (talk) 15:29, 27 June 2019 (UTC))

@DashGraham: Keep in mind that administrators do not have the final word on whether any source is held in "high regard"; it's determined by community consensus, as with most other things on Wikipedia. You may read this page on reliable sources for information on what is considered to be a reliable source. In short, sources are reliable if they have a reputation of editorial control and fact checking. I'm not an expert but I believe that journals need to be peer-reviewed. Others may know more. If you have questions about what is or is not a reliable source, there is a reliable sources noticeboard for such questions.

Just as a note, pings only work if you sign the same post in which you make the ping(I see you added the ping later, that does not work). 331dot (talk) 15:35, 27 June 2019 (UTC) @331dot: did this ping work? I'm not sure how to sign into the same post. Thank you! DashGraham (talk) 17:18, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources may be of help. We try to avoid Predatory publishing. Context is imprtant, WP doesn't consider any source reliable for everything, but some are "generally reliable." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:21, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Kurdistan

Here (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Herro_Mustafa&curid=22120412&diff=903734416&oldid=902423763) I have caught an IP removing all mentions of Kurdistan from the lead section.

What is Wikipedia's policy on the Kurdistan issue? I know that it has been a very controversial topic in recent years, so I'd like to pursue the least dramatic and radical approach to dealing with this. (I. e. I'm hesitant to straight-up revert the edit, because others might think that I favor a particular political opinion.) So what should I do? TitanSymphony (talk) 16:44, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Update: another user reverted the IP edit. Did he or she do the right thing? I'd still like an answer, though, just in case I encounter another situation like this. TitanSymphony (talk) 16:46, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@TitanSymphony: The revert was right as the IP user broke a link to the Kurdish people article and deleted additional information. Note that it says Kurdistan region (geographical/cultural) and not Kurdistan. KREOH (talk) 18:05, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Recently Published Page on Sandbox Deleted

Hi team, A recent page which I tried to publish in the name of Jindal Stainless was up for speedy deletion. I am still unaware of the reason and would request you to throw some light on the matter.

Thanks, Shaurya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shauryaaaa (talk • contribs) 04:18, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

As the message on your talk page states, it was deleted under WP:G11 as promotional material. pinging the deleting admin user:creffett Meters (talk) 04:26, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Meters, clarification: I'm not the deleting admin, just the one who tagged it for deletion. Fastily is the deleting admin. creffett (talk) 19:11, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Of course. Sorry. Meters (talk) 19:43, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Shauryaaaa Welcome to Teahouse. Your page was deleted due to content was advertising in nature and you bleached the copyright infreignment by copying the content directly from other source instead writing the article in your own words - see HERE. Do note, Wikipedia takes copyright infringement extremely seriously. Please visit WP:Your First Article to familiar yourself on how to write an article and WP:GOLDENRULE for the requirements needed. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 04:29, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Shauryaaa. Just to add to what Meters posted above. If you click on User:Shauryaaaa/sandbox, you'll see that the page was deleted by an administrator named Fastily per WP:U5. I can't see the deleted page because I'm not an administrator, but this usually happens when the content is not deemed suitable for Wikipedia for some reason (e.g. too promotional). The best thing to do would be to ask Fastily about this at User talk:Fastily. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:30, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

I haven't seen the article, but if there's not enough sourcing for a standalone article, you might consider adding your info to the Jindal Group article, where Jindal Stainless is already mentioned. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 04:55, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

how to become an editor

HI, guys and ladies.

I was wondering how to make edits because I was writing about John Calvin but it said that the edit was blank but I was looked DEAD AT THE REVIEW. Did I do something wrong, excuse me for any impatient but I really want to get done with it because I think someone in the world could use it? Please help, please and thank you. Also please read my reviews and tell me if you like them or if I need to change anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1coolsean (talk • contribs) 19:14, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, 1coolsean. Wikipedia already has an article on John Calvin. Maproom (talk) 19:50, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi 1coolsean and welcome to the teahouse. Your content is at User talk:1coolsean. You submitted the wrong page. You need to read WP:Referencing for beginners next time you try to write an article, but you don't seem to have noticed that we already have an article on John Calvin so we don't need another. Dbfirs 19:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Account still not auto-confirmed

Hello,

I have made around 15 edits and my account is more than 7 days old. However, my account still has not been auto-confirmed which means I cannot edit many pages that would require some editing (semi-protected pages). Do you know why?

Thanks,

Pierre — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pierre.Wanders (talk • contribs) 12:13, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Pierre.Wanders What message comes up when you attempt to do something requiring auto-confirmation? Based on your edits, you shouldn't be having difficulty. 331dot (talk) 12:16, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

There is also an extended-confirmed level of rights, where you need 500 edits and your account must be 30 days old. 331dot (talk) 12:17, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

~~Pierre definitely doesn't have autoconfirmed rights as I write this.~~ WP:AUTOCONFIRM suggests reasons why it might take more than 10 edits/4 days, like using Tor. Eman 235/talk 13:48, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Your link says "Implicit member of: Autoconfirmed users" for me. That means Pierre.Wanders is autoconfirmed. It does not produce an entry in the User rights log. It's usually a misunderstanding of a feature when autoconfirmed users think they are not autoconfirmed. @Pierre.Wanders: Why do you think it? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:33, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Huh, you're right. xtools says that too. My bad. Eman 235/talk 19:52, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia i Rumârește?

Sâ, hioc teș caus sâ (Romǎnǎ) ul hioc có jîşnéc niop sâșteș. Sâ vémcóț ces hioc coș jîșnéc ju hua "Jan Diu" ul hioc "sâ" jauș lufi hîmóp. Țaum hioc tías fém cóp jînéc niop, ă Wikipedia i Rumârește? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.156.128.249 (talk) 18:16, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. This is English Wikipedia, and we are unable to respond in other languages. (Google translate isn't much help, either, I'm afraid). Nick Moyes (talk) 18:21, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Rumârește!

Da, ul hioc jî cea mac n'asehǎta pâr Wikipedia i Rumârește, na ta "English Wikipedia", hua steu jî n'i "Google translate"

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately, I can't tell what you're saying- I do not speak Vietnamese, and nor do most people here (I have used a translation tool for this). Would you like to try out the Vietnamese Wikipedia?

Xin chào và chào mừng bạn đến với Wikipedia! Thật không may, tôi không thể nói những gì bạn nói - Tôi không nói tiếng Việt và hầu hết mọi người ở đây (tôi đã sử dụng một công cụ dịch thuật cho việc này). Bạn có muốn dùng thử Wikipedia tiếng Việt không? -A lad insane (Channel 2) 18:27, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

A lad insane, pretty confident that this is Romanian, possibly poorly spelled, or some dialect thereof. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:29, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I guess autodetect Google Translate wasn't a perfect strategy. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 18:38, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

I think the words "có" and "hioc" which are in Vietnamese but not Romanian may have thrown it off. At any rate, ț is a giveaway for languages that use the Romanian alphabet, I'm not aware of any other script that includes that character. Also "ș" is not in Vietnamese. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:46, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Bună dimineața, Traducerea Google are dificultăți în traducerea a ceea ce ați scris, dar Wikipedia română este aici. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:28, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hua Rumârește! Rumârește =/= Română! JEAL!!! ;( ;( ;( [ul refedere] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.156.128.249 (talk) 18:48, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Mulțumesc, dar Rumârește =/= Română. :( Dar pot să vorbesc amândoi :)

"The Istro-Romanian language (Istro Romanian: Rumârește) is an Eastern Romance language, spoken in a few villages and hamlets in the peninsula of Istria in Croatia, as well as in diaspora, most notably in Italy, Sweden, Germany, Northern and Southern America, and Australia.

While its speakers call themselves Rumeri, Rumeni, they are also known as Vlachs, Rumunski, Ćići and Ćiribiri. The last two, used by ethnic Croats, originated as a disparaging nickname for the language, rather than its speakers.

Due to the fact that its speakers are estimated to be less than 500 (the "smallest ethnic group in Europe"), it is listed among languages that are "seriously endangered" in the UNESCO Red Book of Endangered Languages.[3]

It is also considered by some Romanian scholars as an idiosyncratic offshoot dialect of Romanian."

Maybe they're asking if there's a wikipedia in their language? --valereee (talk) 18:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Da

Well in that case, the short answer is no, we do not have an Istroromanian Wikipedia yet. I'm not aware of how to start a new Wikipedia for a language, maybe someone else here does though.

Ei bine, în acest caz, răspunsul scurt este nu, încă nu avem o Wikipedia Istoromaniană. Nu știu cum să încep o nouă Wikipedia pentru o limbă, poate că altcineva de aici face. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:41, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

I think Incubator is where that happens. Eman 235/talk 20:37, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Vă roc nu mă șună Vietnameze înafarădast, a lad insane hua GreenMeansGo. JEAL.

Could it be about the revert message at User talk:Jeal Istro-Romanian received from User:Serols? Sorry, this IP left a message at my talk page too.Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:38, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

I've restored the above comments removed by the same IP editor. Masum Reza^📞 22:14, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Help regarding making a wikipedia page

Greetings!

I'm Parth Bhatt, a high school student and I have undertaken over 250 courses by organisations like United Nations, United States Institute of Peace and Peace Operations Training Institute, USA. I have several achievements of national and international level.

I wanted to have a wikipedia page on me so that people and children of my age group can get to know about me and get in contact with me for help in completing courses. I want the youth to be aware of the current global issues as they are the future. As a child, I realised that I need to take part in empowering others in order to make this world a better pace to live. I did not want to be the one who focuses only on academics but a person with practical knowledge and experience.

Most of my references and citations are offline. Can anyone please help me in making the article.

Thanking you with kind regards, Parth Bhatt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parth239 (talk • contribs) 14:58, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Parth239. People and children of your age group can get to know about you and get in contact with you for help in completing courses via social media, such as Facebook, which differs in many important ways from an Encyclopedia. Best of luck!--Quisqualis (talk) 20:34, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

talk I'm already on Social Media sites such as Facebook and Instagram but it isn't helping much. Some the UN certificates which I was conferred with have just about 3,000 recipients in this world of 7.7 Billion people. Please tell me what can I do to use offline sources as citations on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parth239 (talk • contribs) 08:25, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia requires reliable, published sources. If you have not been written about impartially in such sources, your notability on Wikipedia hasn't been established. Further, your purpose in wanting a Wikipedia article about you is entirely social. Ask for help in making social connections from your instructors and fellow students.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:25, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Parth239 You sound like an impressive person; however, Wikipedia is not interested in what people want to say about themselves. If you merit an article here, someone else should write it with a neutral point of view. You could have input, but no more than any other editor, and you could not dictate what appears there. A Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. There are good reasons to not want an article. 331dot (talk) 20:40, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Alright respecter sir/ma'am! Thanks for your valuable inputs!

Belle Delphine

Before you say anything, just know that I have over 2,500 edits, 50 articles created, and 2 years of experience. I'm not new.

Why was Belle Delphine deleted. I thought she was WP:N. I mean, she was my first human article, so I'm not exactly experienced in that field (I'm primarily in astronomy) so I'd like some feedback. Thanks! AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 19:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@AdrianWikiEditor: The article has only been nominated for deletion; you are welcome to contribute to the discussion, which you have. 331dot (talk) 20:44, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Group reference

Helped
Hi. How do you group together many citations like this? Thank you. UberVegan🌾 21:28, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @UberVegan: - The guide on different ways to do that is here: WP:BUNDLING, but in this case, many of those should be removed, see WP:CITEKILL. That many citations on one statement appears like the result of ongoing edit-warring. Orville1974^talk 21:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@Orville1974: you are right. Thank you. UberVegan🌾 21:53, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi again @UberVegan: I just realized WP:BUNDLING doesn't actually explain the code. Here's more specifics: Where you want the inline citation, create a named reference, like: <ref name="list" /> <--- any name you pick

Then list out the citations:

{{Cite news|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/world/europe/last-night-in-sweden-trumps-remark-baffles-a-nation.html|title=‘Last Night in Sweden’? Trump’s Remark Baffles a Nation|last=Chan|first=Sewell|date=2017-02-19|newspaper=The New York Times|access-date=2017-02-19|issn=0362-4331}}
{{Cite news|url=http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/g26Lk|title=After Trump’s ‘Last night in Sweden’: Here are the errors in Fox News' report on Swedish immigration|newspaper=Aftonbladet|access-date=2017-02-20}}

etc.
Then end with a closing: </ref> tag. Orville1974^talk 22:02, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, again. I found this page from the page you linked. UberVegan🌾 22:13, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@UberVegan: Also you might want to check Template:cite web for documentation. Masum Reza^📞 22:18, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Writing an article

I need help, what must I do first to write a proper article that can be published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronaldodiso (talk • contribs) 04:44, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Ronaldodiso: Successfully creating a new article is one of the most difficult tasks on Wikipedia. Newer users often end up disappointed when their hard work is removed for not meeting Wikipedia notability guidelines. In your case, Notability for organizations outlines the criteria the article will need to meet. Before you spend a lot of time writing an article, research the company from third-party reliable sources to see if it meets those guidelines. Stronger M founder of Upper Life Brand does not meet the criteria right now, and no amount of re-writing will make up for the lack of notability. As a new user, I recommend waiting to create the articles until you've gained some experience editing existing articles. This new user tutorial is a great way to get you started. If you're still determined to create an article immediately, you should follow the instructions at Your First Article and use Articles for Creation Orville1974^talk 05:06, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Show Preview

Hello there, first off I apologize If I have done anything wrong, I am new to editing wikipedia. I am just curious if when I use Show Preview and I exit the page if I can recover the stuff I added into the preview? Thanks for reading

Hi @GunvoltKong: Please sign your post with 4 of these:~. That way other editors know who is saying what. Clicking Resume editing in the top left corner will return you to your ongoing edits from the preview window. If you forget, many times if you go right back in to editing the article again, your previous edits are waiting for you, but don't rely on that to always happen. Orville1974^talk 05:10, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

ERROR on Large Scale

Under the search for "shipwrecks" listed by year, the flag for United Kingdom and British North America seem to be reversed.

For example see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_January_1841 (plus all other months and years). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.67.242.175 (talk) 04:03, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

The flag shown next to to shipwrecks of British vessels in January 1841 is the Red Ensign, "the flag flown by British merchant or passenger ships since 1707". It is not intended to be the Flag of the United Kingdom, as it is not flown over ships. It is not the flag of British North America. General Ization ^Talk 04:13, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Please also note that the BNA flag was square and had the first Union Flag (without St. Patrick's cross) in the canton. The Red Ensign (aka the "Red Duster") has the current Union Flag (with St. Patrick's cross) and is typically 1:2 not square. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 08:34, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Redirect help, I think

Hi,

I have created a draft, Association for Feminist Anthropology, which I want to establish as an article. When I do a name search, I am directed to the American Anthropological Association article. Can you help me remove the redirect so I can create the article? thanks MauraWen (talk) 00:12, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, MauraWen. I have removed the redirect now, so you can begin work on the article Association for Feminist Anthropology.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:19, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

If your draft were accepted for publication to mainspace, the redirect would be dealt with as part of the publication process. At present the draft isn't suitable as a mainspace article because none of the references are independent of the subject. David Biddulph (talk) 01:24, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Quisqualis and David Biddulph: thx for your help. I will put the draft aside until I find an independent reference or two. MauraWen (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Off-site Conversations Between Editors Regarding Wikipedia Articles: Allowed?

Is there any Wikipedia rule, or policy, that prohibits Editors from having "collaborative" conversations off-site regarding Wikipedia Articles, where collective decisions regarding the editing Articles are made, so that once off-site consensus is made, they are presented as a "united front" on the Talk page?Tym Whittier (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey Tym Whittier. Wikipedia editors collaborate off Wikipedia all the time in a number of ways, including social media and real-life conferences and meetings. However, specifically for the purpose of reaching a consensus for article content, it is usually best to have such discussions on Wikipedia rather than elsewhere, as this can foster a greater breadth of input, will leave a record to which future editors may refer, and can avoid the appearance of canvassing or meatpuppetry. GMG ^talk 13:15, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Why was my article rejected?

Dear Sir or Madame,

I am working for an NGO called Eurodiaconia based in Brussel. Since months we're trying to create a Wikipedia page but without success. I was wondering whether I could have some feedback on why our submissions were rejected and what needs to be improved in order to publish? Our first submission was rejected; we then updated it and sent it again for approval, please find the link below. I would really appreciate if you could let us know at what stage the review is. Thanks in advance!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Eurodiaconia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurodiaconia (talk • contribs) 14:58, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Eurodiaconia: When you create a draft for an article, you need to either (1) WP:MOVE the article yourself to the article mainspace or (2) submit if for review to Wikipedia:Articles for creation (AFC). There's no automatic review process so the draft will continue to remain a draft until you do one of those two things. Since you appear to have a conflict of interest based upon what you posted above, I strongly suggest you follow option two and submit your draft for review; this will give an AFC reviewer a chance to look it over and assess whether the subject matter is something sufficiently Wikipedia notable enough for an article to be written about it. I will add a template to the draft so that you can submit it for review when you think its ready.

Now a couple of other things:

Your choice of username is not something allowed per WP:ORGNAME. I will add a template about this to your user talk page
You have a COI with respect to this subject matter, so please take a look at Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's position on COI editing. You might also be subject to Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. I will add a template about these things to your user talk page.
Only organizations deemed to be Wikipedia notable are considered appropriate to have articles written about them. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause for more information on what this means.

-- Marchjuly (talk) 15:18, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Check this out: Threat or Bullying?

Helped
I just saw an editor by the user name of Phil Bridger with this sort of writing "Be careful what you ask for" at the end of this talk page: [[3]] I wonder if he is imposing a threat or merely bullying? Can I ask other editors and admin to take a look and comment? Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:800:9030:2c47:74cc:a753:20f9:de95 (talk) 14:56, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Please sign your comments with 4 of these:~. It helps everyone keep track of who is saying what. The editor posted that message to an article talk page due to recent repeated attempts by multiple anonymous editors to blank properly sourced, unflattering material about the article's subject. It's a reference to WP:PROUD, not a threat or bullying. Orville1974^talk 15:08, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

That's also an English idiom: see wikt:be careful what you wish for. It means that there may unintended effects that the editor did not foresee or desire. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:23, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Phil Bridger has added a clarifying comment about what he meant on the talk page of the article. Orville1974^talk 16:27, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

A glitch

Helped
A section I created at Talk:Tesla, Inc. seems to be not appearing. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 16:30, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @ImmortalWizard: It was caused by a malformed reference tag in a prior comment. It's fixed now. Orville1974^talk 16:37, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

DEAR friend

I read your message and I loved it so much your so kind — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThomasTheTankEngineGuy (talk • contribs) 08:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello,This is not the place for this message. Go on the person's talk page.Thanks..Hurricane Ducker (talk) 08:12, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

list of strikes

I wish to add an important strike to the List of Strikes article, but I don't know how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.70.189.175 (talk) 17:49, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP, I'm assuming the reason you're having trouble with List of strikes is because of the table formatting? I would suggest identifying where on the page you want to add the content, opening the page in source-editing mode, and copying the syntax of other entries for the edit you want to make. Don't forget to provide a citation as well. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:58, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello

Awah, Nigeria in new article queue

i have reviewed and updated my article "Awah, Nigeria" but it has been pending since June , 2019 so i don't know what is holding it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mykeazi (talk • contribs) 17:59, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Mykeazi, the AfC queue has a backlog of several thousand articles. Please be patient and someone will take a look at it eventually. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Help with Ping Backs

Helped
I realize this is a really basic question, but how do these work.... Can someone explain this? DashGraham (talk) 02:33, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@DashGraham: The instructions are here: Template:Reply to. I used {{ping|DashGraham}} in this response, but there are other versions with different effects (in the See also section at the bottom of the article). Orville1974^talk 02:55, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Orville1974, you don't even need a template as it's just a wrapper to create a link to a user, which is simply one of the requirements to create ping. The specific details are listed on Help:Notifications#Alerts in the 'mentions' section. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:02, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

This might seem like a basic question, DashGraham, but lots of experienced editors get it wrong, so it's definitely worth asking. The important thing (which is what people often get wrong) is that you need to make sure that the username link (e.g. as provided by the template mentioned above) is included in an edit that is signed. The mistake that people often make is to post a comment, and then subsequently edit it to add a ping - but that doesn't work, because they already signed before adding the ping, and the notification won't be triggered. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:17, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Cordless Larry: thank you so much for explaining this. I did not understand this nuance. This is very helpful. Thank you, Cordless Larry (DashGraham (talk) 18:47, 28 June 2019 (UTC))

I'm happy to help, DashGraham (and I received a notification of your ping, so you got it right). Cordless Larry (talk) 19:40, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Way to see what pages redirect to a given article?

So I had a mosey around WP:Redirect and Help:Redirect, and I don't think I found a way to see all the pages which redirect to the article you're on/you enter into the query.

Does it exist? Am I blind? Did it exist at one point? Is it a special requirement or something?

(I ask, because an article I'm looking at is using a half-dozen bolded phrases in the middle of the body, and I'm trying to determine if they're left-overs from redirect/merges, or just poor formatting. I'll be likely cleaning them either-way, but was curious enough after poking around to ask.)

Thanks, and Cheers! Elfabet (talk) 19:56, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Elfabet, there's a "What links here" button near the middle of the left-side menu on every article. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 19:57, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Derp, I knew that. Thanks! Elfabet (talk) 19:59, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Dr. Oscar Gonzalez-Monteagudo

How can I add a picture to this short biography? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ed Spitzenberg (talk • contribs) 22:33, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Ed Spitzenberg: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Instructions for uploading images can be found at WP:UPIMAGE. You will need to ensure that the copyright of the image allows you to upload it. 331dot (talk) 22:39, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Help Understanding the Feature Article Class (Thatgamecompany)

I was doing some research into what makes a good article in WP:COMPANIES. Thankfully that page contained a very nice table listing all the articles and their classes. I found that SEGA was listed as a FA candidate, which IMO should be promoted to that level. However, when I looked at another feature article, Thatgamecompany what I thought makes an article a feature was a bit more muddied.

The biggest thing that threw me off was the lack of citation in the lead. This lead me to Wikipedia:When_to_cite, which helped... I definitely understand now that citation is not as important in the lead as it generally summarizes the content below. However, the second paragraph of the lead contains quite of bit of content which reads as opinion. Again, I now get that the lead covers what's to be expected, but I'm struggling to understand whether it's more important to cite opinion wherever it appears or leave the reader to find this out later (opinion is clearly identified as requiring citation Wikipedia:When_to_cite#When_a_source_is_needed).

So looking at the actual citations related to that content (in the philosophy section), I noticed that both came from fairly low-level industry sources gamesindustry.biz & gamasutra.com. Neither reference seems very important. Additionally, neither article actually had quotes from employees, unless you count their founder as speaking for all employees.

This may be coming across as argumentative, but I'm really trying to understand how to be a better writer on wikipedia, and don't see a 'clear' definition of feature-class article, when the quality between Sega article and thatgamecompany are objectively different. Could I get help understand what makes an article feature class, especially when it comes to the quality of references used, and what information should be pull from those.

I guess I'm asking in a way to pull Thatgamecompany as a feature article, because I don't think the references are up to snuff, and what is in those references mislead the reader with what is actually said. How do I go about requesting an article receive a demotion of class? Thank you very much in advance

Jonkatora (talk) 02:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Jonkatora: Try Wikipedia:Featured article review. Best of luck! -A lad insane (Channel 2) 03:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Jonkatora, I think you're looking for Wikipedia:Featured article review. Vexations (talk) 03:06, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

It seems to me that Thatgamecompany is a long way short of Featured Article status. While your exemplar, SEGA, is neutrally written and interesting, Thatgamecompany comes across as promotional and waffly, emphasising what its employees were aiming for rather than how its products were received. Maproom (talk) 09:52, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

It became an FA in 2011. It probably hasn't been kept up to the times. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 00:29, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Where is the Tea house ?

I wanna come there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShreyasEP (talk • contribs) 01:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @ShreyasEP:. You're here! Do you need help with anything? Orville1974^talk 02:04, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@ShreyasEP:, The teahouse is not an actual teahouse. WikiSmartLife (talk) 04:52, 29 June 2019 (UTC)