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Introduction

The purpose of this discussion page is to select 50,000 topics for which Wikipedia should have high-quality articles.

Any article currently on this list may be challenged. The discussion is open to the following rules:

Voting count table (>60%)

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1. Before being closed, a Level 5 proposal must:
   1. Run for at least 15 days; AND
   2. Allow at least 7 days after the most recent vote; AND
   3. Have at least 4 participants.
2. For a proposal to be implemented on the Level 5 list:
   1. It must have over 60% support (see table); AND
   2. It must have at least 4 support votes !votes.
3. For proposed additions from August 2024 onwards, the nominator should list (and possibly link to) at least one potential section in the level 5 vital articles list for the article to be added to. Supporters can also help in this regard.

For reference, the following times apply for today:

• 15 days ago is: 11:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
• 7 days ago is: 11:23, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

The following link represent all current Level 5 Vital articles that are classified as STEM subjects:

Further information: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Biological and health sciences/Biology

Further information: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Biological and health sciences/Animals

Further information: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Biological and health sciences/Plants

Further information: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Biological and health sciences/Health

Further information: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Physical sciences/Basics and measurement

Further information: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Physical sciences/Astronomy

Further information: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Physical sciences/Earth science

Further information: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Physical sciences/Chemistry

Further information: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Mathematics

Further information: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Physical sciences/Physics

Further information: Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Technology

Add emerging/futurism concepts (remaining nominations)

A bit sf-y, but discussed in science. The articles we have are generally about science, not sf treatment of those (fiction is generally relegated to seprate articles). Perhaps some of this belongs under physics and not technology, but that's a minor issue. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

• I archived the closed nominations, only two open ones are left. starship.paint (RUN) 14:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Add Asteroid mining

Big industry of the future, unless we self-destruct :) 22 intewikis, ~375 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Discuss

• This one's a toss-up for me. The actual technical side of it isn't too speculative; people talk about it now and it probably could be done if somebody really wanted to. Skeptical the economics will ever let it take off though, at least in my lifetime. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

  I agree, this one feels very on the border. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Add Self-replicating machine

Some key concepts related to Nanotechnology  4. 14 intewikis, ~150 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
2. We added Self-replication  5. @Zar2gar1: any change in opinion? starship.paint (RUN) 13:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Discuss

• Another borderline one for me: it can approximately be done right now, but feel like a lot of the concept revolves around more futuristic applications. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Merger discussion of Boot (medicine)  5 and Walking boot

Please join the discussion at Talk:Boot_(medicine)#Merger_discussion.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I have restored this notice. The bot noticed it was 60 days old with no comment. This restarts the clock.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

• This discussion was finally closed with Boot (medicine) being merged into Orthopedic boot. I nominate that the latter replace the former on this list
  • I think that we can edit this boldly without voting. Our apparent consensus has been that redirects shouldn't be on the vital articles list. Boot (medicine) had enough support to be included back in January, and I don't think anyone would want it removed instead. So let's just swap orthopedic boot with it. Makkool (talk) 14:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nom. --TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
2. Support adding Orthopedic boot and removing Boot (medicine)  5. IDBLWK (talk) 04:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Add Copying  5

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A broad concept relating to information. Place under information technology?

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 06:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 15:19, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 16:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Support outside of Tech, this is really such a general & basic process, I feel almost like it belongs more in Philosophy somewhere. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Aroma compound  5

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Fragrances are a major product.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Support in Chemistry, even if many are produced artificially. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss

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Add Least squares

Most common way to do a Regression analysis  4. The Blue Rider 16:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 16:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
3. Famous. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 20:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Discuss

• Neutral for now because it is very important but I feel like it is sufficiently covered in the article for Linear regression  5 already. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

  One is the estimation the other is the model, I think these two differ significantly. The Blue Rider 21:46, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

  @The Blue Rider: Yes and I'm saying that the article for the linear regression model has a full section for the linear least squares estimation method: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_regression#Estimation_methods. Considering the fact that least squares is pretty much only used for regression, we don't need to include a separate article whose important aspects are covered by this one (and on the nonlinear side, we already list Non-linear least squares  5). Aurangzebra (talk) 15:41, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

  @Aurangzebra: - given that Non-linear least squares exists, least squares is not wholly covered by linear regression. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

  @Starship.paint: I didn't include that because the specific article for it is already VA5: Non-linear least squares  5. I think I would support a swap between the two though (non-linear least squares for the more general least squares). Aurangzebra (talk) 15:35, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Add Tilikum (orca)

Tilikum, a captive orca linked to three human deaths, symbolizes debates on animal captivity ethics and fostered awareness about animal welfare. The Blue Rider 01:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 01:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
2. SailorGardevoir (talk) 10:42, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Feels too recent events to consider vital. Makkool (talk) 20:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Discuss

Two coefficients and one fallacy

Add Coefficient of determination

Variance  4 helps understand the spread of a sample, but its value alone may not provide much insight. This is where the coefficient of determination comes into play. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Interstellarity (talk) 01:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss

Add Coefficient of correlation

Covariance  4 helps understand how two variables change together, but its value alone doesn't show the relationship's strength or direction. That's where the coefficient of correlation comes in. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Interstellarity (talk) 01:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss

Add Correlation does not imply causation

In fields like economics and statistics, it's vital to remember this fallacy. Recognizing this distinction is crucial for accurate data interpretation and analysis. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Interstellarity (talk) 01:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss

Add Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders and International Classification of Diseases

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The two most popular diagnostic manuals in the world surely deserve a spot in the vital list. The Blue Rider 22:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 22:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. However, I think the DSM belongs under Nonfiction books in Arts (this is where we put Gray's Anatomy  5 which is also a medical reference). ICD is fine in Health, Medicine, and Disease. Aurangzebra (talk) 22:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:30, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss

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Add Centrosome

The vital MTOC for many animal cell types, a hugely important organelle. Also, centrioles are already on there, and they make up the centrosome, so surely centrosome is higher priority for being on there? GraziePrego (talk) 02:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. per nom. Also, would you like to add your support, GraziePrego? Here at vital articles nominators usually support their proposals and are counted for the purposes of votes. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
2. Support! Thank you for the tip that I can support my own, @Hanif Al Husaini. GraziePrego (talk) 07:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss

Add Nicotiana

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The genus of the plants that are used to make Tobacco  4. The Blue Rider 00:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 00:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Makkool (talk) 18:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Discuss

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Move online services to all in one pages

I noticed that Apple and Microsoft are on a different page than Google, Amazon, and Facebook. I don’t think it makes sense to list several websites and companies on two different pages. I’m hoping that we can develop a structure so that major companies, websites, and services are all on the same page. Interstellarity (talk) 19:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't think we need to list companies and websites on the same page. I moved webpages back to where they were, but I did leave the IT companies with the rest in Economics. I also think that we should have a structure: something like Meta Platforms and Alphabet Inc.  5 in Economics and Facebook  4 and Google  4 in technology. Makkool (talk) 10:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

@Makkool I think we should discuss how we structure these pages at level 4. It didn’t make sense to me that Google, Apple, and Microsoft were on different places so I combined them into one. Any thoughts on what we should do with those pages? Interstellarity (talk) 15:10, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

I think the best solution is the one I outlined above: to have Meta and Alphabet represent Facebook and Google along Apple and Microsoft. Makkool (talk) 15:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

@Makkool: I just noticed that YouTube, Facebook, and Wikipedia are in different sections. What do you want to do with that? Interstellarity (talk) 15:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Add OpenOffice.org

The ancestor of LibreOffice  5 and Apache OpenOffice. Interstellarity (talk) 10:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 10:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. It was one of the most popular pieces of open-source software in its heyday, but it still had a significantly lower market share than MS Office even at its peak. It did not last a particularly long time, with less than ten years between its first and final releases. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Neutral

Discussion

• Apache OpenOffice is not vital. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:24, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

  @QuicoleJR: I know it's not. That's why I proposed its predecessor which is the ancestor to LibreOffice and OpenOffice. Interstellarity (talk) 11:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Add Productivity software

Type of software Microsoft Office and LibreOffice are. Interstellarity (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Too general.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Neutral

Discussion

Add Mobile computing

Very common topic in today's society especially with the rise of mobile devices. Interstellarity (talk) 00:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. The term "mobile" as the opposite of "desktop" is an vital term. However, I think it refers to Mobile operating system and to a lesser extent Mobile device  4. One of those needs to be vital. Mobile computing sounds like it should be vital, but I don't really think it is.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Neutral

Discussion

Add Pioneer plaque

Similar reasons to the voyager golden record. Interstellarity (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Add Physical activity

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Notable omission. Interstellarity (talk) 19:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 19:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:04, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

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Add Pharmaceutical industry

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Pretty important alongside Pharmacy. Interstellarity (talk) 21:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

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Add Codex

The replacement for the Scroll  5 (proposed for VA4) and direct predecessor of the Book  2. Used for several centuries. 52 interwikis.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
2. notable omission with many interwikis, per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:09, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discuss

Food additive additions

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These are a well-known part of everyday life that most people are at least familiar with, and they should be listed.

Add Food additive  5

Examples include Vinegar  4, among others. 59 interwikis.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
5. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 20:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discuss

Add Sugar substitute  5

Commonly used additive to get the sweetness of sugar with less calories. 37 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject Food and Drink.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
5. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discuss

Add Food coloring  5

Adds color to food. Ask almost anyone, and they will know what it is. 35 interwikis.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
2. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
6. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discuss

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Add New York City Transit Authority and/or Metropolitan Transportation Authority

We list NYC subway at L4, but we don't have coverage for the bus system that goes there. I suggest adding these so that the buses and other forms of transit are covered here. Interstellarity (talk) 21:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Add Document

We type documents every day. Interstellarity (talk) 23:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 15:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
3. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
4. Obviously. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Add Microform

Found a lot in libraries. Interstellarity (talk) 23:47, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:47, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I continue to assert WP has many redlinks and redirects that could be vital articles. Microfilm and microfiche should not be redirecting to this subject and either or both could be VA5. This term is uncommon and made important by virtue of its vital subjects that redirect to it.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD)

Neutral

Discussion

Add Academic library and Research library

We list public library, but these kind of libraries is just as important. Interstellarity (talk) 23:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

World additions

Add World

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Surprised this wasn't listed. Interstellarity (talk) 00:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
2. surprising omission. starship.paint (RUN) 15:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
3. !! The Blue Rider 23:06, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
4. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 04:53, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Possible overlap with Universe  2.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 15:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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World war

Many world wars besides WWI and WWII have existed, a vital concept for history, politics and culture. 72 interwikis. The Blue Rider 23:06, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 23:06, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
2. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 07:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
4. Supporting and agreeing with above. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Too general of a term.TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

1. Not true, it is pretty well defined. Plus we list things much more abstract than this. The Blue Rider 14:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Discuss

World government

Controversial issue that is often debated in politics. 37 interwikis. The Blue Rider 23:06, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 23:06, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
2. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 07:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
3. Per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss

World population

Widely studied concept per itself but also its implications; important for geography, politics and demography. 77 interwikis. The Blue Rider 23:06, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 23:06, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
2. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 07:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
3. Per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
4. Important. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:21, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
5. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss

Add Gustave (crocodile), the Tsavo Man-Eaters, and the Beast of Gévaudan

We can probably have some man-eaters on the individual animals section. These animals are held to at least killed 100 people. (There's also the Leopard of Rudraprayag, but we already have the hunter who killed him.)

Support

1. SailorGardevoir (talk) 04:37, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
2. Support Tsavo man-eaters and the beast of Gevaudan. Oppose Gustave, as it seems to be too recent and we can't see if it's a long-standing topic that has vitality in the future. Makkool (talk) 11:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I just can't convince myself that these are vital in the same way that so many Vital Articles are. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 11:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Discuss

1. We literally have fourteen individual animals. Not sure if these are the next ones to add. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 02:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

   The animal page is still under quota. SailorGardevoir (talk) 04:43, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Add Boulevard and Avenue (landscape)

Important streets we have missed. Interstellarity (talk) 00:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Sure why not. Supporting both. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Add Ridesharing company

We list taxis, but not ridesharing. Interstellarity (talk) 00:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Add Intercity bus service

We list Public transport bus service and this should be listed as well. Interstellarity (talk) 19:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 19:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Add Intercity rail

An important type of rail not listed. Interstellarity (talk) 19:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 19:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Add Input device and Output device

Both cover fundamental concepts that are essential for Human–computer interaction  5. A User interface  4 relies on both, so this level-4 section (Touchscreen  4, Computer mouse  4, Keyboard technology  4, Computer monitor  4) includes both articles. Also includes computer-based Headphones  5 and Microphone  4, and sometimes Printer (computing)  4.

Support

1. As nom. B3251_(talk) 01:33, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Theoretically more timeless concepts than the specific device types.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 18:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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Discussion

Add biogeographic realms

Add all 8 individual realms under Biogeographic realm  5. We have still plenty of space in Biology to include them.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 19:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

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Immunology additions

We are well under the quota for Health, and we are missing a lot of very basic topics. These are definitely more important to include than some random obscure author or actor.

Add Immunization

The process where your Immune system  3 becomes better at fighting a specific Pathogen  4. One way of achieving this is through a Vaccine  3. 35 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject Medicine.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Supporting. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Inoculation

Parent topic to Vaccination  4. 25 interwikis.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Adaptive immune system

One of the two main immunity strategies found in the Immune system  3. Forms the basis of Vaccination  4. 43 interwikis.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Innate immune system

One of the two main immunity strategies found in the Immune system  3. The main response found in plants and invertebrates, and the part that isn't specific to diseases you are immune to. 37 interwikis.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Malaria vaccine

Malaria  3 is VA3, and this vaccine reduces hospitalizations by around 30%. 26 interwikis.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Considering we list Influenza vaccine. Interstellarity (talk) 00:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Goal

We need to set them every day. Interstellarity (talk) 23:07, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:07, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Fine with me. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Add Moral responsibility

Another straightforward addition since we take responsibility for our actions. Interstellarity (talk) 23:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Add Mohs scale (potential swap with Friedrich Mohs  5)

This is probably the best known hardness scale for minerals. (Also, I know that this is paradoxical, but I would kind of like to remove the guy who created it. His page is very short, and it doesn't seem like anyone has bothered to write more than a couple of paragraphs on him.)

Support

1. Support addition first and foremost. Support removal secondary. SailorGardevoir (talk) 04:44, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Support add, oppose removal. Aurangzebra (talk) 05:09, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
3. Support add per nom, oppose removal as unnecessary. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
4. Support addition, oppose removal. Interstellarity (talk) 00:02, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Add Carbamazepine

We really need to work on improving our health list. This medicine is on the WHO List of Essential Medicines, over two million prescriptions in the United States alone. 42 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject Medicine and WikiProject Epilepsy.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Megafauna

Commonly used zoological concept.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 20:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Easy support. Would also consider adding charismatic megafauna. The Blue Rider 00:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Offspring

Term is an important one for reproduction. Interstellarity (talk) 21:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Obvious addition. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Support Mathwriter2718 (talk) 11:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Add Airliner

We should list this since this is basically a passenger plane. Interstellarity (talk) 00:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Millions ride on these every day. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:48, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Remove Attercopus, Brontoscorpio, Plesiosiro

As much as I dislike contributing to the bias against invertebrates, I unfortunately don't see much indication that these fossil arachnids are important enough concepts to be vital articles given their taxonomic recency combined with not being very popular research topics in general. PrimalMustelid (talk) 19:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nom. PrimalMustelid (talk) 19:08, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Add Women’s health concepts

These concepts encompass a range of conditions and procedures directly affecting Women's health  5, Reproductive rights  5, and well-being:

In vitro fertilization

Amenhorrea

Hysterectomy

Ovarian cancer

Polycystic ovary syndrome

Pelvic inflammatory disease

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 21:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Support all. I have heard of most of these, and I trust that they are all vital. IVF in particular seems very important. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
3. Oh wow, IVF isn't listed? feminist🩸 (talk) 12:38, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
5. Things that are excluded because most people here are a dude. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 21:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Convolution

A mathematical operation on two functions (or sequences) that produces a third function. “Convolution has applications that include probability, statistics, acoustics, spectroscopy, signal processing and image processing, geophysics, engineering, physics, computer vision and differential equations”

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 05:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 22:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
3. Very important operation Mathwriter2718 (talk) 03:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Animal testing

The use of animals in scientific experiments.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 05:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
2. Obviously. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 03:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Plantation

Combining cash crops and large estates, plantations have been important in creating the modern world economy, and they date back to ancient times. Their history is full of exploitation and conflict.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 05:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Supporting. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Diverticulitis

Very common disease in the Western world, and Health is well under the quota. 39 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject Medicine.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 16:40, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add health conditions

We are under quota by over 100 articles for Health. starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Add Scar  5

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53 interwikis. Extremely common. Add to Injury?

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Extremely basic concept. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
5. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 18:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss

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Add Pimple  5

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Common during puberty. 15 interwikis. One of the symptoms of Acne  4. Add to Symptoms and signs? starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
4. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 18:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Comedo  5

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Comedo are "blackheads" and "whiteheads". 38 interwikis. Very common. One of the symptoms of Acne  4. Add to Symptoms and signs? starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Not as well known, but still common. Supporting. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
4. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 18:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Ingrown nail

30 interwikis. Add to Diseases?

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
3. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 18:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Mouth ulcer

Common ailment and 22 interwikis. Add to Symptoms and signs?

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:14, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Makes sense. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Self-help

We list Self-help book, but not this topic. Interstellarity (talk) 01:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 01:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Sure. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Add Toothpick

Important material in dentistry. Interstellarity (talk) 13:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 13:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Sure. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
3. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:20, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 17:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Add Typhoon

Subtopic of tropical cyclone. Interstellarity (talk) 21:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Obviously. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:39, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Basic metereology and geography concept. The Blue Rider 03:02, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:48, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Add Typesetting

An important aspect of the Printing press  4.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 22:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Add Pan-American Highway

The highway network from North to South America, with a small gap in Central America. According to the Guinness World Records, "the world's most longest motorable road".

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 23:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Add Media (communication)

We use these everyday like books and TV. Interstellarity (talk) 00:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Easy support. It connects all of this stuff together. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

Replace Clopen set  5 with Connected space

Clopen sets are really not an very important concept. They matter basically only insofar a connected space is defined to be a set with no nontrivial clopens. If anything, Connected space should be nominated, and in fact I will nominate it. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC) Edit: I am changing this proposal from just removing Clopen to replacing Clopen with Connected space, as I should have done from the outset. Connectedness is one of the most fundamental concepts in General topology  4. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 02:56, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 02:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 03:17, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss

• @Mathwriter2718:, hello! Here at WP:VA we support as nominator; also make sure to include a support, oppose and discuss subsection for people to vote. Cheers.
• @The Blue Rider: I am changing this proposal from just removing Clopen to replacing Clopen with Connected space, as I should have done from the outset. Feel free to retract your per nom support if you disagree.

Add Riemannian manifold

This is one of the fundamental objects of modern geometry. Another reason to add it is for consistency with other math vital ratings. There are many pairs of articles about a branch of math and its object of study, such as Riemannian geometry and Riemannian manifold, Group theory and Group (mathematics), Graph theory and Graph (discrete mathematics), and Ring theory and Ring (mathematics). Of these, Riemannian manifold is uniquely discordant with the rating of its companion, which is Level 4 vital. In fact, it is the only article I have listed that is not Level 4 vital. For full disclosure, I have a lot of edits on Riemannian manifold. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

This page has 1,002 wikilinks by the way. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 03:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add topics related to human evolution: Hominidae, Homininae, and Interbreeding between archaic and modern humans

Hominidae and Homininae are terms in the phylogenetic tree containing great apes and humans. Most other terms in the tree surrounding these are Level 4 or Level 5. Interbreeding between archaic and modern humans is a much-studied topic. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 11:54, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 11:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

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Anatomy additions

Found these three omissions

Add Rib cage  5

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We list Rib  5 and Sternum  5, but not this.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 11:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Obvious. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 11:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Per above. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 17:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 09:20, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss

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Add Celiac plexus

Also called "solar plexus"

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 11:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
2. suitable for this level. starship.paint (RUN) 09:20, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Pelvic floor

Now, a more better understood part of the body

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 11:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
2. suitable for this level. starship.paint (RUN) 09:20, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Ford Mustang

I'm not super confident about this one succeeding, since it's not one of the best-selling cars of all time, and we already have a Ford car listed (Ford Model T  5), but it's arguably the most iconic and best selling sports car of all time, and is also a iconic brand, especially in the United States. Not to mention, it gets more views on average than both the Volkswagen Beetle  5 and the Toyota Corolla  5 [1] (sidenote: the Corolla is not yet a VA at the time of writing, but it will be soon).

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:09, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add some missing education items and writing utensils

Just some simple items you'd find in a school or other place that I feel are important enough for VA status.

Add Bulletin board

Very common; seen at many places, notably universities, but also shops and sporting facilities. Also basically the inspiration for Internet forums.

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 17:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Blackboard

Also known as chalkboard. Extremely common back in the day, but not as much nowadays, as they've mostly been replaced by the item below this. Still very recognizable, and not that hard to find one in our current world.

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:35, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Whiteboard

Basically the replacement for the blackboard. Extremely common and used at many places, notably schools and offices.

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Marker pen

The writing utensil for the whiteboard. Besides that, an extremely common writing utensil, especially in the school setting, one of the most common coloring utensils.

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 01:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Crayon

I just assumed that this and colored pencils were added, but I'm very surprised they haven't been yet. The most common coloring utensil ever, seen everywhere, been around forever.

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:49, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Colored pencil

Another very common coloring utensil, especially in the school setting. Another one I just assumed was already added.

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 02:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Fountain pen

Another common type of pen. 60 interwikis.

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 13:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Quill

One of the original writing utensils. I feel like you can't talk about iconic and important writing utensils without mentioning this.

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 13:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Computer vision

A rapidly developing area of artificial intelligence that enables machines to interpret the visual world. Some applications include facial recognition and anomaly detection, which are increasingly used in transportation, healthcare, surveillance, and combat.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Birth defect

More properly known as congenital disorders. “Birth defects affected about 96 million people as of 2015”.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 00:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Basic parent topic. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:47, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Quaternion

A number system that extends the complex numbers. Used in mathematics, physics, and computer science. 64 interwikis.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Support for level 5, quaternions are fairly important. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 12:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Cold

Everyday concept.

Support

1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Wow. I can't believe that nobody noticed this yet. Should probably be V4. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 00:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
4. Obviously Mathwriter2718 (talk) 20:01, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Goose bumps and Shivering

Well known concepts, basically the body's response to the cold, the former via the appearance of bumps at the base of body hairs, and the later via the body shaking, teeth chattering, etc.

Support

1. Supporting both as nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 00:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

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Add Patch (computing)

Common concept in the digital world, especially with computers. Basically updating/modifying a software to most often fix any existing Software bug  5, though it can also just improve the software in general.

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 04:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
3. Basic concept. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Clearcutting

According to the article, "the most common method of logging". Weird that it's not listed before. Add to Technology/Agriculture/Trees and forestry.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:10, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. It would make more sense to nominate Logging, which isn't a VA. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 12:03, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Keystroke logging  5

Too specific? Keyloggers are undeniably common, but it's always usually bundled in Spyware  5 (which it's a sub-article currently) and doesn't seems notable as a function on its own. 49p (talk) 17:51, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. 49p (talk) 17:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
2. Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
4. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Dwelling, Mobile home, and Caravan (trailer)

All different kinds of homes. Location: Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/5/Technology#Residential_buildings_and_housing_units

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Hasn't someone suggested Shelter (building)? Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 15:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Neutral

Discussion

Add Spider web

Everyone has seen a spider web/cobweb before. Basic concept that spiders do all the time. I have no idea where to put this. Maybe somewhere in the Biology page?

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 21:00, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
2. Nest and Ant colony are missing too, I thought to check them to see where animal-made constructs are. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 21:12, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

   I gladly support both. Nest could possibly be V4 as well. Beehive is another notable one missing. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 21:32, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

3. per nom Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Zeppelin

A common type of airship, especially back in the day. Yes, we already have Rigid airship  5 listed, but I feel like this is different enough to also be listed, plus it has more interwikis and gets more pageviews on average than rigid airship. This should go alongside rigid airship, which is under Aviation [2].

Support

1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 23:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Civil aviation

We list Military aviation  5, but not its opposite. I think it's vital as well at this level.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 09:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
2. I agree. Interstellarity (talk) 19:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Remove HD DVD  5

It lost the war for a high-definition optical disc format. I don't see how a format that lasted 2 years could be vital.

Support

1. 49p (talk) 02:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
3. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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Remove EDonkey network  5

A very (now) uncommon format, with BitTorrent  5 basically being a more popular option. I don't think it needs to be listed as it has little legacy.

Support

1. 49p (talk) 02:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 22:36, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
4. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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Remove .exe  5

Not really seeing a reason to list it under a sub-VA5 of Executable  5. We don't even list Executable and Linkable Format. (ELF files). It doesn't make sense to list types of executable as all executables are tasked "to perform code" and different formats don't have much differences than the operating systems they run in.

Support

1. 49p (talk) 02:33, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
3. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Glide (API)  5

Defunct API that was replaced by OpenGL  5, DirectX  5, and the alikes. This was a proprietary API for 3dfx's graphic cards. Sure it ruled at a point, but it was a very short period: according to the 3dfx article they were mainly prominent in the late 1990s to 2000. We don't even list the company, 3dfx. Its rapid declined and became superfluous. Later bought by Nvidia  5 in 2000. The API was not useful other than being proprietary.

Support

1. 49p (talk) 02:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Mathematical statistics

An important area of mathematics.

Support

1. As nominator. To probability and statistics. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 02:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 00:34, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 15:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Atlantic hurricane

Proposing for the same reasons as my nomination of Typhoon. Most logical place to put it is in Air under Earth science. Interstellarity (talk) 19:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 19:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Mpox

Add to Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/5/Biology_and_health_sciences/Health#Viral_diseases. Seems like a vital article since it is an epidemic in Africa. Interstellarity (talk) 00:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
2. Absolutely. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
3. 49p (talk) 02:21, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
4. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 07:51, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
5. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 15:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
6. Very important African disease. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Common fish

Add Atlantic salmon

A commercially important species of fish, farmed and fished for use as food in many countries.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 20:29, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Atlantic herring

"one of the most abundant fish species in the world", important of the fishing industry for many countries

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 19:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add European perch

The European species of Perch  4, popular game fish for recreational fishing around the world.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 19:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add SIM card

Essential technology in mobile devices.

Support

1. As nom. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 00:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
4. eSIM is probably going to be vital in a couple years as it becomes the new standard. 49p (talk) 05:18, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

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Common trees

Add Rowan

A tree with a wide geographic distribution, used for many purposes and with folkloric and mythological meanings. We could also add European rowan, which has much more interwikis.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 19:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Tilia

Also known as linden, or lime tree. Another tree used for several purposes and which has cultural significance.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 19:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Acer platanoides

Also known as Norway maple. A common type of maple in the old world, and also as an invasive species in America.

Support

1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 19:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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Add Actinote zikani

An extremely rare butterfly previously thought to be extinct, is now listed on the IUCN's The world's 100 most threatened species list. To be honest, every species on that list should probably be VA5'd, due to their significance in the field of extinction.

Support

1. As nominator. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 20:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Despite its sad situation of being almost extinct it has close to zero biological and cultural influence. The Blue Rider 22:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
2. I am really not sure why the rarest species would be the most important. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
3. Per The Blue Rider and starship.paint. Yes, it's an extremely rare species, but I can't see adding all of the 100 most threatened species, especially when it lists obscure stuff like Bazzania bhutanica. We can definitely add the more well known ones (if they aren't already listed), but not all of them, especially the ones with extremeley low interwikis and pageviews like this one. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
4. The list referred to is a book that was published in 2012, by ZSL London Zoo in partnership with IUCN. It has not been updated since, and this species does not currently feature on the IUCN Red List. There are many, many Critically Endangered species including the once-common-with-my-lifetime European eel which potentially deserve it more. Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 14:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Reason I V5R'd it is because it is on the list of The world's 100 most threatened species. All of these species are extremely significant in the field of extinction, and are, well, the world's 100 most threatened species. I don't see how they aren't significant.

Add Shelter (building)

Maybe Residential buildings and housing units in Technology. It's clearly a need for all organisms. Interstellarity (talk) 00:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
3. Basic concept. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Burn center  5

• Stub with 3 interwikis. starship.paint (RUN) 14:02, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:02, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Does not seem like a very common or important type of medical facility. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Rutherford scattering  5

The article was merged into Rutherford scattering experiments  4. IDBLWK (talk) 04:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. IDBLWK (talk) 04:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Plastics engineering  5

The article was merged into Polymer engineering  5. IDBLWK (talk) 04:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. IDBLWK (talk) 04:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Wheelbarrow  4

It's a level 4 VA but it's missing from the Agricultural tools section of the level 5 list. IDBLWK (talk) 06:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. IDBLWK (talk) 06:59, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add SARS-CoV-2  4

Another level 4 VA missing from the level 5 list. IDBLWK (talk) 07:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. IDBLWK (talk) 07:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add Nuptial tubercles

It attempts to explain the horn/spike/sandpaper-y growths, mostly on the heads of male fish in the breeding season. I consider it a vital part of fish anatomy, and I was surprised this article didn't exist! So, I created it by machine-translation from its Spanish counterpart and expected it to be picked up by experts who would run with it. This didn't happen. I have no formal scientific or academic education beyond mandatory schooling, and I am out of my depth. So, I hope that others consider it to be as vital as I do, and propel the article content to where it needs to be! Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 13:51, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support

1. As nominator. Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 13:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Replace Fin  5, should be Fish fin

Its a anatomy article, therefore the latter is a better fit. Fin article relates more to Technology. It might need be kept, just not in the anatomy section.Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 07:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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1. As nominator 07:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 15:59, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 07:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Swap Peer-to-peer file sharing  5 for Peer-to-peer

I feel like the general concept should be listed than just "file sharing" cause there are many other usage of P2P that isn't just file sharing.

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1. 49p (talk) 15:31, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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Swap Napster  5 for The Pirate Bay

Sailing the seas has a longer legacy than Napster. One lasts 20 years and ongoing, and the other only lasted 3 years. The Pirate Bay is "one of the most visited torrent websites in the world" and "sparked controversies and discussion about legal aspects of file sharing, copyright, and civil liberties".

Support

1. 49p (talk) 15:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 15:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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1. Neither should be there. Both covered by the more basic concept above (Peer to peer file sharing) Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 21:00, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

   Not every more basic concept is always more important than its subconcepts or examples. The Blue Rider 00:03, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

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