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RRRRR

Why is the R in "Toys R us" backwards??

Well it catches your attention because it is unusual and appeals to a parent becasue it typifies the infant attempting to write by copying what adults have written. All pleasing to the parent.

Should the R in the article be backwards or forwards? Their corp site has it forwards outside of the logo--67.160.146.193 03:37, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
It seems pretty dumb. Toysrus.co.uk has as its title 'Toysrus'. So why does wikipedia need to be different?

Irony?

A few times in the article, the word "ironically" appears. Ironically, the company had just opened its first mainland Chinese... Ironically, the chain has just entered the mainland Chinese market... I fail to see, exactly, how this is ironic. It's merely coincidental, if you ask me. Nevermind being mildly redundant. 64.91.86.214 02:38, 19 January 2007 (UTC)SeraphicMaster@gmail.com

Public or private?

The corporate infobox lists Toys R Us as a privately-held company. However, it's in a category indicating that it's public (Category:Companies traded on the New York Stock Exchange). Which is correct?--Myles Long/cDc 17:28, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Toys "R" Us used to be a public company until last year. 2nd paragraph, 1st sentence on <http://www4.toysrus.com/about> says "Toys "R" Us, Inc. operated as a public company from 1978 until July 2005." JRodz15 08:25, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't wanna grow up…

I'm a Toys "R" Us kid… Is that a slogan, or just a jingle? It's what I think of when I think of slogans, but since it wasn't already in there, I wasn't sure where to add it. Seems like a sucessful slogan if it's still in my head. —Fitch 09:02, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Many youthful adults such as Geoff Shively have adopted the name Geoffrey Giraffe to embrace the idea of not growing up in conventional "old fashioned" terms. These youthful and healthy adults remain playful, happy, and creative while maintaining a productive adult life.

It was the slogan, current slogan is "Time for Childhood" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.245.35.23 (talk) 03:14, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

"Toys R Us Strike" section

It needs a major overhaul. I'd clean it up myself but I wouldn't know where to start!

I wrote a new section and might add some more, after i verified some sources. S4ndp4pper 22:38 (UTC), 19 february 2006

Backwards R

How is the backwards R typed?? Georgia guy 02:02, 16 December 2005 I tried to figure it out- but gave up- they type it as the backwards r in their emails, Toys "я" Us (UTC)

The character "Я" can be found in the character map (start->programs->accessories->system tools->character map) under some fonts. One confirmed font it is found in is Times New Roman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.242.94.19 (talk • contribs)
SGML numeric character reference &#1071; produces Я and &#1103; produces я. (In Soviet Russia, Toys "Я" you!) --Damian Yerrick (☎) 02:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Per Template:Lang, I used the {{script}} and {{transl}} templates to support systems that do not natively support Cyrillic. Before, a UI (User Agent) would read them in Russian, because I did not know how to support the script rather than the language. This article supports the script, because we are discussing the Cyrillic letter, not its use in a foreign language. For more information, please see the template pages. Thank you. Taric25 (talk) 08:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

RRRRR

What does the "R" Us part mean, anyway? — JIP | Talk 4 July 2005 05:00 (UTC)

It's pronounced as "Toys are Us", in other word "We are toys". -- user:Zanimum

much ado about "Я"

I propose we move this article to "toys "Я" Us". I think it makes sense. as far as I knwo it's the name of the company, no? skizzno logic3.1 03:43, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree. 60.224.48.152 05:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Agree pfahlstrom 22:38, 2 April 2006 (UTC) → change to Disagree because the company only uses it in the logo. —pfahlstrom 20:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. The company is called Toys "R" Us on its website. The use of the backwards Latin 'R' is a stylistic choice, it's not meant to be a Cyrillic 'Я'. --Arteitle 17:04, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong disagree. We should not go too far to represent brands' logos in text. -- Renesis13 01:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Stronger Agree. It's funny, distinctive, and something you can do on the internet. Besides, we have the quotation marks, which are equally superfluous.
  • Strong Agree per above. -AMK152 00:36, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
    • You honestly think the purpose of an encyclopedia is to be "funny" and "distinctive"? Not to mention they could do this in print hundreds of years before it could be done on the Internet. – flamurai (t) 03:05, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Agree We have articles like We ♥ Katamari and we also have articles that include letters not used in English alphabet (Milo Đukanović for example).--Fox Mccloud 20:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Letters not in the English alphabet does not apply here. It's not a technical issue; it's stylistic. The same debate goes on at We ♥ Katamari... there is no consensus on this issue. – flamurai (t) 03:05, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Strongly Disagree: This goes directly against what is said in the Wikipedia manual of style. Quote:
Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment
fraggle 17:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Disagree: Why would we change it on account of the logo? The only purpose of the "Я" is to draw in attention, like how on lemon aid stands on television. It makes it look "cute," but the name of the main company and of the store is "Toys "R" Us." The logo is not in the situation. Like how on the Kmart logo, there is a K, and then a kmart under in the logo. Does that mean we should move it to Kkmart? No. Look, people: Toys "Я" Us is only the logo, Toys "R" Us is the name of the store AND company! It's like moving Wal-Mart to Wal*Mart. It serves no purpose! So just, PLEASE, understand this! --RandehMann 02:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Issues over moving to 'Toys "Я" Us'

I think that moving the article from Toys "R" Us to Toys "Я" Us was not a good idea, since the company is called 'Toys "R" Us' on its website and in print, and more importantly, just because the Cyrillic 'Ya' resembles a backwards 'R' doesn't mean it can be substituted for the 'R' in the name. It's a different character from a different alphabet with a completely different pronunciation, and the company is definitely not called 'Toys "Ya" Us', which is what the article now reads. --Arteitle 02:49, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I think you should add a section to this article that includes the answer to the question "How do we know that this backwards R cannot possible be Faux Cyrillic??" Georgia guy 13:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Reversed R

I've moved the page to "Toys "R" Us" as requested on this page --Dtcdthingy 21:53, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Page title

This article title appears to change about once every 4 months or so. Any questions about its future?? Georgia guy 22:04, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Leave it as "R". People who are trying to go directly to the article wont be typing "Я". Remy B 06:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
That's the beauty of the Redirect ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 08:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
The backwards R is part of the logo, but the actual name of the store is Toys "R" Us(with a regular R). TJ Spyke 00:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
...as can be shown by... Georgia guy 00:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Go to the TRU website and see for yourself. They also never use the backwards R other than in the logo. TJ Spyke 00:49, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
It's all a moot point anyway. The Wikipedia manual of style says to use normal text formatting rules even when the trademark owner encourages special treatment. fraggle 17:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Worker's Conditions Biased?

The section for Working Conditions seems to have a very negative bias. Might want to clean that up to a more neutral position...

Update: Put up the POV tag

  • I did a Google search, and found nothing noteworthy or unusual about working conditions within Toys R Us. As such, I went ahead and removed the paragraph entirely. -- MisterHand 22:48, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

"Copyrighted" Theme Song...

Quick question about the status of TRU's theme song... How does the copyright on the theme song effect the ability of having it included here on Wiki vs. the fact that all the slogans and mottos are copyrighted as well - should these slogans be removed as well? What is the determining factor here?

Imaginarium

Imaginarium is a spanish company, that operates stores in several countries. Toys'R'Us may have entered into a partnership with them, but they certainly do not own the brand.

I believe the Spanish Imaginarium was an imitation of the original Imaginarium.  Randall Bart   Talk  01:17, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Imaginarium was a U.S. comapny, whcih was purcahsed by Toys"R"Us. The Spanish company is not affiliated, and there is no partnership. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.70.248.253 (talk) 20:00, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Sources and Foreign section

I've changed most of the sources over to the <ref>{{cite news}}</ref> format, excluding the ones regarding the Sweeden strike, as I cannot read the websites and thus cannot fill out the cite news or cite web templates. Someone else please do so.

Secondly, an idea for the "Countries / regions with Toys "R" Us stores" section... convert to a table. Have three columns: country, date first opened, and number of stores (if necessary, add a "As of year foo" qualifier) -- saberwyn 23:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, Toys "R" Us do not operate in Ireland. They do not currently have any stores here, and to the best of my knowledge, they have never operated here. -- lostcarpark 05:06, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

As of August 2007, Toys "R" Us have opened their first stores in Derry City/Londonderry and Sprucefield, Lisburn, both in Northern Ireland. However as Northern Ireland is part of the UK, they still do not have any stores in the Republic of Ireland. --Lostcarpark 09:53, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Blues Brothers cameo

You should add its cameo in the Blues Brothers and how it was put "permanetly" in the Dixie Square Mall until the sign was taken down in November of 2006. It was actually a very major part in the movie because that's where they crashed while a man was trying to buy Muppet dolls. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.110.197.20 (talk) 22:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

Lawsuits vs. other "R" Us companies

I seem to recall a number of years ago hearing on the news about Toys "R" Us filing a ridiculous number of lawsuits against any companies they could find who were using '"R" Us' as part of their name. I think the result was that other companies could use the phrase, but not if they used a backwards "R". Tell me I'm not imagining this. I was surprised to see no reference to the incident on the page... --Lurlock 05:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

The "Beginnings" section of "History" at the beginning of the article has been vandalized. I have removed the offending text. Below is the vandalized text, with the removed material struck-out:

Charles Lazarus initially started Toys "R" Us (LTD) in Washington, DC during the post-war baby boom era in 1948 as a baby furniture retailer known as "Children's Supermart". Its first location was at 2461 18th St, NW, where the nightclub, Madam's Organ Blues Bar is currently located. Lazarus began receiving requests from customers for baby toys. After adding babies to be sold to hungry people, he got requests for more mature toys. Eventually, the focus of the store changed and Toys "R" Us became the evil corrupt company we know today that sells unborn babies to be fed to pigs on the Brooksby Farm in Beverly. The company headquarters is located in HELL Wayne, New Jersey.

Ericdn 02:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

When fixing vandalism, it's best to revert or undo the offending edits. In the case of the vandalism described above, the vandal removed some legitimate text while vandalising. I have restored the legitimate text. Graham87 14:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Revenue citation needed

What is the source for the revenue figure provided in the box? A citation is needed here. Would someone (like the person who originally made the entry) please cite the source. Thanks. W.C. 23:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Haunted

One of these is haunted. See Haunted locations, Re.:US. 205.240.146.37 (talk) 20:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

R zone

The "R" Zone is much like its own store in that it also has security gates; in some branches, customers must purchase their items at the checkout within the "R" Zone. This idea was brought up in a boardroom meeting in 2005 by 2 ex-executives then Jordin Johanson and Robert Tennant. After Rzone was introduced Toys R us profits rose 130% marking it as one of the biggest successes of the company.

There were R Zones in Phoenix, Arizona Toys R Us' in 2000-2001. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.93.170 (talk) 00:13, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I've been an employee for some time now... (1999) and have had r-zone... --76.121.43.164 (talk) 00:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Franchise

Do you know if is there any public information regardind a Franchise for Toys'R'Us ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.117.32.31 (talk) 13:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

In most countries ToysRus is Corporately owned. However one notable exception is Israel where all stores are franchises —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.245.35.23 (talk) 03:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Spaces in company name

On their website they write Toys"R"Us, not Toys "R" Us. I suggest renaming this article without spaces... miki (talk) 08:10, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Create a redirect. Don't ever rename this article again.  Randall Bart   Talk  01:19, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Theme Song / Corporate Jingle

This article, as far as I can see, makes no mention of the company's theme song or its use of its theme song in marketing campaigns. I believe this is a gross oversight. When one thinks of Toys "R" Us, the first two things one thinks about are its backwards-R and its extremely catchy jingle. Without a discussion of how said jingle has been employed in various marketing campaigns, who wrote the song and when, et caetera, I believe this article is sorely lacking.

Allixpeeke (talk) 15:10, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

"Heirs" section

I have removed the uncited "Heirs" section ([1]) that was likely someone trying to push misinformation. If there truly are heirs to Toys R Us, please cite them with RS. KuyaBriBriTalk 19:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Charles Lazarus

Why is this article merged with the one about Charles Lazarus (the man who started toys r us)? If we have separate articles about rock groupies from the 1970's and Brittney Spears backup dancers, why cant we have a proper article about Charles Lazarus. The blurb in this article looks too much like the blurb on the Toys R Us corporate website. Some questions to be answered in the new article: (1) what he did after he sold the company in the 1960's (2) anything else about his life/creativity/education/other projects, etc. Meishern (talk) 16:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Babies "R" Us logos

We should put Babies "R" Us's other logos on the page. I would but I don't know how to —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew1736 (talk • contribs) 19:28, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Toys R Us - Article name.

Shouldn't the article's title have Apostrophes instead of Quotation marks? Seeing as the letters "A" and "E" are missing, then you would use Apostrophes for the omitted letters. Maybe we don't need either of them, as the latest logo doesn't even use them and seeing as common names apply for Wikipedia articles, what exactly is the common name for the company? AnimatedZebra (talk) 06:32, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Lead paragraph

I replaced Toys "R" Us (stylized as Toys "Я" Us) with Toys "R" Us (stylized with a reversed "R", similar to Toys "Я" Us) in the lead because I believe this language is more accurate. However, User:C. A. Russell has reverted the change, restoring "Toys "R" Us (stylized as Toys "Я" Us)", which I believe is less precise. Perhaps we can discuss here and reach a consensus on which version is more appropriate. 28bytes (talk) 13:00, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to say 28bytes but I agree with Russell. The name of the toy store chain is Toys R Us but they stylize themselves as "Toys Я Us", isn't that precise engough? The reverse "Я" is similar to "Toys Я Us" bit wouldn't be right cause it's not "similar" it actually IS "Toys Я Us". So in a nutshell I would leave it as is. Sorry if I sound mean cause I'm not trying to be, it was good of you to post.
How on earth would anyone get anywhere in life, if we didn't ask questions? :) AnimatedZebra (talk) 04:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
No, 28bytes is correct. "Я" is a character from the Cyrillic alphabet. The chain's logo contains a backwards "R" (from the Latin alphabet), which is only similar in appearance to the aforementioned Cyrillic "Я". It's factually inaccurate to claim that the logo contains a Cyrillic character, which is merely a typographical approximation. —David Levy 05:55, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Forgive me if I've just arrived in "Slight-Cofusionland" (hehe) but I understand you David but now 28bytes, I'm not sure If I understand your purposal or not, care to elaborate? AnimatedZebra (talk) 07:42, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Toys R Us's printers likely dip into the Cyrillic type case to make this character, same as Wikipedia does. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:49, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
In type, the company uses a normal Latin "R". The backwards "R" appears almost exclusively in the chain's custom logo. We had to look to a foreign licensee's website to find the Cyrillic character utilized in this manner, and even they use a normal Latin "R" in most instances. —David Levy 03:52, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

This is a little confusing, I'll admit! The main reason I proposed clarifying the text is that C. A. Russell insisted a citation was needed for the original language (see the page history). He restored the original text, so I replaced the "citation needed" tag with a reference to the company's own "contact us" page of a licensee, which uses the Cyrillic character. Since we can cite the use of the Cyrillic Я directly to the company's own licensee's website, the more precise language may not be needed. As long as we agree addition citations aren't needed, I'm fine with either version of the lead text. 28bytes (talk) 21:57, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

The website in question belongs to Li & Fung, a separate entity that licenses the Toys "R" Us brand in some countries. —David Levy 03:52, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification, I've adjusted my comment accordingly. 28bytes (talk) 04:08, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to come by so late, but I've only just noticed this came up on the talk page, and it looks like there's some confusion about what happened there.

FWIW, I'm wholly against the use of the Cyrillic ya in general as a poor approximation of emulating artwork. The edit in question that I reverted was edit 428088056 to Toys "R" Us by 28bytes. The bit I was reverting was not the wording, but the removal of the citation needed tag. As I said, I'm against the use of Cyrillic ya in these cases, but especially when that use only happens as the result of an inference from others' interpreting the artwork, while the involved entity (Toys "R" Us, in this instance) themselves eschews with the use of ya. In those cases, not only is it misguided/bad form to use ya, but the assertion that it's "stylized" in that way falls under WP:OR.

To be clear, I agree that the wording I reverted to was less correct than the wording by 28bytes. I was inattentive to that aspect at the time I reverted. In my preferred version, though, 28bytes's wording would still be absent from the article, because the ya would not even appear. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 19:31, 12 August 2011 (UTC) revised at 19:44

Move? [request withdrawn]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: request withdrawn. —David Levy 06:46, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Toys "R" Us → Toys R Us –

  • The new logo for the toy store chain no longer uses quotation marks and regardless, wouldn't people be more likely to search for the toy store chain without their use? If we decide to keep them (ahhh lol), then can we at least use singular Apostrophes (which are used for omitted letters), instead of the double Quotations Marks? AnimatedZebra (talk) 05:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Contesting this move. The company website refers to itself as Toys "R" Us and they request media to do the same. Best left to a requested move discussion on the talk page using {{subst:RMtalk|Proposed new name|Reason for move.}} --64.85.215.21 (talk) 07:28, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The quotation marks have been dropped from the logo, but they haven't been dropped from the store's name (as it appears in type). —David Levy 03:52, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
  • I see, well then, I now oppose my own request! hehe AnimatedZebra (talk) 06:10, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Company CEO

The Toys"R"Us CEO is incorrectly listed as "Michael S. Franchesco." The CEO is currently Gerald Storch. I can't figure out how to modify that section to fix it. Any help is appreciated. - Bob 6/1/11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.70.248.253 (talk) 20:05, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

International Stores

I removed the reference to the Dublin store in the International Stores section. There is not and never has been a Dublin store. - Bob 6/28/11. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.70.248.253 (talk) 21:26, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

In addition to (again) removing the unsourced Dublin store, I don't think the list of countries in which Toys "R" Us used to operate is encyclopedic.--Miniapolis (talk) 16:25, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Toys "R" Us Color Schemes Since 1969

Does anyone here know of the exact colors Toys "R" Us had used for its letter scheme?

Please allow me to start off by saying that according to this link, [2], the original color scheme of the TOYS "Я" US lettering was a red T, a yellow O, a light blue Y, a pink S, a lime green "Я", an orange U and a rich blue S.

The same link mentions that in 1986, this scheme changed to the following: the T was still red, but the O was now orange, the Y now dark green, the first S now purple, the "Я" now yellow, the U now green and the last S now light red. This scheme would remain unchanged through 1999-2000. This version of the logo also has a shiny, sparkled look to it.

WikiPro1981X (talk) 20:41, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Protect Page?129.64.195.56 (talk)Sept 6th

I was wondering if this page can be protected from edits. frequently over the summer people have been either replacing the CEO with fictional people or adding fictional people to the important people list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.64.195.56 (talk) 17:12, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Flag icons and Dublin store

Although I appreciate the effort involved, in copy-editing this article I don't think flag icons are appropriate for corporate store locations since it makes the corporation appear quasi-governmental. Since the source cited lists no stores in Ireland, I've removed that listing.--Miniapolis (talk) 16:18, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protection required

The vandalism on this page has gone well over high, as an IP address vandalized the top and Geoffrey the Giraffe sections, both criticisms of T"R"U. Back in Summer 2011, a vandalism set occurred changing the actual CEO to a fictional character. That is why I recommend to have at least semi-protection to the article. WebTV3 (talk) 16:00, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Private Brands

Is this bit really necessary as it reads like an advertisement "(including Taryn, a musician with aspirations of playing at the New Orleans Jazz Festival, and Meredith, a skier." and doesn't add additional value to the private brands information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.55.8 (talk) 23:58, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Kids "R" Us

It has been repeatedly added and repeatedly deleted (as unsourced) that this chain briefly reappeared in California in 2010. The additions are by a series of changing IPs. I'll let it sit for a day or so (requesting a cite) then remove it again. If it is readded without a cite, I'll ask for page protection. Thanks. - SummerPhD (talk) 12:40, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Removed. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:24, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

WP:TRADEMARK

This article repeatedly violates this Wikipedia style:

"Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration, or simply substitute for English words (e.g., ♥ used for "love"). In the article about a trademark, it is acceptable to use decorative characters the first time the trademark appears, but thereafter, an alternative that follows the standard rules of punctuation should be used:
avoid: Macy*s, skate., [ yellow tail ], Se7en, Alien3, Toys Я Us
instead, use: Macy's, Skate, Yellow Tail, Seven, Alien 3, Toys "R" Us"

I'll go in and change it. Ground Zero | t 10:42, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

UK parking charges??

Is the UK parking issue really noteworthy? The cited reference is just a news report of a individual instance. The G24 company seems to adopt this approach of high penalties in many locations, not just Toys R Us. jxm (talk) 17:08, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

It is not only not noteworthy, but contains many weasel words like 'ruthlessly', which is certainly not in keeping with a neutral POV. I've removed it for now. Justin.Parallax (talk) 17:39, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Good call. Ground Zero | t 17:55, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

This article says a logo with all the letters in black is the pre-1986 logo. The truth is that there was a pre-1986 logo that looks exactly like the 1986-2000 logo only with different colors; the R is green instead of yellow. Anyone able to upload an image of the true pre-1986 logo?? Georgia guy (talk) 01:21, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

For the complete colors of the pre-1986 logo, see a section near the bottom of Archive 1 of this talk page. Georgia guy (talk) 01:28, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

"Looks like shouting"

Re this edit: Yes, Georgia guy, the way the company uses it "looks like shouting". However, the company commonly uses "TOYS Я US". Perhaps we should rename iPhone to "I Phone" because "iPhone" looks wrong? Rather than more examples from me, perhaps you could explain what other facts we omit because they "look" somehow "wrong". - SummerPhD (talk) 01:11, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

iPhone is a brand name. It's written the way it's written. Toys "R" Us is also a brand name, but we don't write it in all caps in everyday prose. Georgia guy (talk) 01:17, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Your complaint was that it "looks like shouting". Is there any policy or guideline that states we should not include otherwise encyclopedic material in articles because an editor feels it "looks like shouting"?
No, you don't write it that way. However, the company does. You probably don't write Men in Black 3 as "MIB³". Columbia Pictures does. The material you are removing does not say people write it that way "in everyday prose". It is stylized that way. Yes, Apple writes "iPhone". Toys"R"Us, Inc. writes "TOYS Я US". - SummerPhD (talk) 04:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
MIB is just an abbreviation. Toys R Us is a group of words, and it will look like shouting if it's written in all caps. Georgia guy (talk) 12:58, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Is there any policy or guideline that states we should not include otherwise encyclopedic material in articles because an editor feels it "looks like shouting"? - SummerPhD (talk) 13:53, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Something that looks like shouting cannot be encyclopedic. Georgia guy (talk) 15:26, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
So that's a "no". The content is encyclopedic, despite the fact that you don't like the way it looks. - SummerPhD (talk) 16:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Why don't I like the way it looks?? The answer is simple: it's a group of words written in all caps, and it looks like shouting rather than encyclopedic info. What objections are there?? Georgia guy (talk) 18:33, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
You are ignoring my question. What policy or guideline supports your opinion that aesthetics should dictate content? - SummerPhD (talk) 22:38, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
The logo is just a logo. We don't imitate it in Wikipedia unless we're uploading an image. The best way to describe the logo is to say "stylized with a backwards R". Georgia guy (talk) 22:41, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
You are ignoring my question. What policy or guideline supports your opinion that aesthetics should dictate content? - SummerPhD (talk) 22:47, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
How easy is it to understand that it looks like shouting to most people?? Perhaps to you it doesn't. Georgia guy (talk) 23:39, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
For the last time: WHAT POLICY OR GUIDELINE SUPPORTS YOUR OPINION THAT AESTHETICS SHOULD DICTATE CONTENT? If you don't understand the question, please ask. This is an encyclopedia. Its purpose is to convey information. Your wanting it to "look nice" is getting in the way of the purpose of the site. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:23, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
If it's an encyclopedia, it has to look like an encyclopedia. All of its words must look the way an encyclopedia is expected to look. Encyclopedia articles are supposed to show text written in a way that explains things factually without revealing emotions, not to show emotions like yelling. Assuming dictate means determine and aesthetics means principles concerned with beauty, of course. But encyclopedias are not supposed to show emotions in their texts. Writing in all caps represent an emotion of shouting. I just can't believe it that you think it's okay for an encyclopedia to write "TOYS R US" in all caps. Georgia guy (talk) 01:34, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Facts: The company stylizes it as TOYS Я US. You have repeatedly removed this fact and replaced it with your guess that they stylize it "to show how a child might write it" (whatever that might mean). You are unable or unwilling to cite a single policy or guideline that says, in essence, remove facts that don't look the way you think they should look". Wikipedia commonly reports abberant capitalization stylings (all caps, backwards letters, no caps, mixed caps, etc.). A few examples:
  • "Granrodeo (stylized as GRANRODEO)"
  • "Myspace (stylized as myspace, previously stylized as MySpace)"
  • "Client (stylised as CLIEИT)"
  • "Time (often written in all-caps as TIME)"
  • "Titan Mare Explorer (TiME)"
  • "Tune-Yards (stylized as tUnE-yArDs)"
  • "Raider Klan (stylized RVIDXR KLVN)"
  • "Impact Wrestling (stylized as IMPACT WRESTLING and formerly known as TNA iMPACT!)
  • "Eurocrack sometimes stylized as E U R O C R A C K"
  • "Reloaded (stylized as RELOADED and RLD)"
  • "KaBlam! (stylized as KaBLaM!)"
  • "Korn (stylized as KoЯn)"
  • "'N Sync (sometimes stylized as *NSYNC)"
  • "Infamous (stylized as inFAMOUS)"
  • "Jun (stylized as JUN)"
  • "Kiss (more often styled as KISS)"
  • "Creep (stylized as CREEP)"
  • "The Rolling Girls (ローリングガールズ Rōringu Gāruzu?, stylized as THE ROLLING GIRLS)"
  • "Dog Days (ドッグデイズ Doggu Deizu?, stylized as DOG DAYS)
This is broadly used Wikipedia style. - SummerPhD (talk) 04:14, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Has this been raised at WP:MOS before?? Georgia guy (talk) 13:41, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
If you feel WP:MOS wp:mos* addresses this, I simply don't see it. The closest I see is "In the article about a trademark, it is acceptable to use decorative characters the first time the trademark appears, but thereafter, an alternative that follows the standard rules of punctuation should be used". Thus we would mention "TOYS Я US" (or "CLIEИT" or "TIME" or whatever) once at the beginning and use "Toys 'R' Us" thereafter (as we do in all of the examples above). - SummerPhD (talk) 21:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
WP:MOS is an abbreviation for Wikipedia:Manual of style. In general, it's okay to use all caps if doing so is the standard way to spell an abbreviation or a valid way to spell a word (in the case of TIME referring to the magazine the latter is valid.) If we use it to spell a group of 2 or more words it looks like shouting. Or perhaps emphasizing the words if there are just 2. But where else besides at the start of Wikipedia do we use all caps to imitate a logo?? This rule seems redundant because we can already learn what a logo looks like by looking at the logo. Georgia guy (talk) 21:35, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Um, "where else besides at the start of Wikipedia"? We're discussing using it at the beginning of this article and I just gave you roughly 20 examples including multiple words and reversed letters. Where else do we omit facts because an editor doesn't like the way it looks? NOWHERE. Do you have a policy or guideline to support your opinion? No, you don't. Do we do this in dozens of other articles? Yes, we do. Does our MOS support including this? Yes, so long as we do so once, at the beginning of the article, exactly where it was before you replaced it (repeatedly) with your WP:OR. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:54, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
I must say that this "looks like shouting" argument strikes me as quite odd and impertinent. Nonetheless, I agree with the text's removal.
As discussed previously, the company doesn't stylize the store's name as name "TOYS Я US", with or without the all-caps casing. That's merely an approximation of the store's logo (and an inaccurate one at that, as "Я" is a Cyrillic character, not a backwards "R"). You'll find no such type in the company's official marketing materials.
Likewise, it would be inappropriate to insert "stylized as WIKIPEDIA" in the Wikipedia article's introduction.
A logo can be notable (and might warrant a mention in the article), but shifting it to a textual context (and elevating this information to the lead paragraph) is an erroneous and misleading conflation. —David Levy 07:42, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

T

How to type Я? I can type just because I copied it from the page. Sorry for my bad English, I am from Hong Kong.

Ooops, I forgot to sign... ... Dinosaur Fan (talk) 07:26, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Have a look at Я where you'll find the encodings discussed. knoodelhed (talk) 19:07, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 November 2016

Please remove "|upright" in the logo parameter of the infobox template.

108.20.52.252 (talk) 01:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Done — Andy W. (talk) 02:33, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 January 2017

In the first sentence in Toys_"R"_Us#Toys_.22R.22_Us_online, could somebody change "June 1996" to November 8, 1995? Since the website was originally launched on November 8, 1995.[1] 

173.73.227.128 (talk) 19:54, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "ToysRUs.com WHOIS, DNS, & Domain Info - DomainTools". WHOIS. Retrieved 2017-01-02.
I removed the text for now... the text was changed from 1998 to 1996 in 2014, and the original text seems to have appeared in 2011 without a citation. Do you know to a certainty whether the record indicates the time of domain name registration, or the time when the site went live? (FYI, I'm using some other domain age checker, and get something closer to 20 years, which suggests Dec 96 or Jan 97.) — Andy W. (talk) 02:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 17 September 2017

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The result of the move request was: not moved  — Amakuru (talk) 09:35, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Toys "R" Us → Toys R Us – For the last ten years, the quotation marks have not been used in the logo. JE98 (talk) 12:26, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

  • Support move per COMMONNAME and related policies.  ONR  (talk)  02:31, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep: I see a lot of discrepancies. Some refer to it as Toys R Us, others as Toys "R" Us or Toys 'R' Us. I note that their official website annd Facebook pages still uses the quotes when referring to the name in full text, so a lack of proof that there is one sufficiently more common name would mean we should stick with the official name. How the logo is styled is immaterial, or we'd have it at "ᴛᴏʏsЯᴜs". — trlkly 03:24, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Support move. Per common name, especially common in quality sources. Also we need to keep it simple. The quotation marks and the reversed R should be seen as a logo style rather than as actual part of the name and should never have been copied in Wikipedia. Just to clarify: I agree with JE98's observation that the quotes are going out of style, however I think that the undesirability of the quotation marks in this logo applies to all times. gidonb (talk) 09:05, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Question I'm undecided at the moment, but have a question for the nominator: You state that the quotation marks haven't been used for the last 10 years; do you have a source for this, as I note that the company itself still uses them e.g. here? Neil S. Walker (t@lk) 11:46, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
    • @Neil S Walker Quite frankly, it has to do with how it is presented in the logo. JE98 (talk) 20:15, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose The company uses Toys "R" Us in its literature [3][4][5][6][7]; this isn't a logo, it's their name. COMMONNAME shouldn't be applied to a proper noun. Neil S. Walker (t@lk) 14:31, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose pretty much everything official from them calls it Toys "R" US 162.221.229.217 (talk) 18:54, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose Per the company's use of the apostrophes. Can't really call it a common name when it's impossible to differentiate between the apostrophe spelling and non apostrophe.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 21:41, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment If we're going by company usage, shouldn't we use Toys"R"Us? -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 22:30, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
That falls under name stylization and not practical use. The "R" shows that it stands for "are" and not "R." (as in the initial).ZXCVBNM (TALK) 23:20, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The official name, as used by the company, is Toys "R" Us. It's also widely used in majority of sources and is likely the more recognizable name per WP:COMMONNAME. Removing the punctuation would be the same as altering the actual name (which may be against policies such as WP:NPOV and WP:V). — Zawl 11:37, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Nom appears to be simply mistaken. No case to answer. Andrewa (talk) 01:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
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Filed for bankruptcy protection

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41316205

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrimas1 (talk • contribs) 08:36, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Indeed, and already noted at the end of § Company history. DMacks (talk) 08:42, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

"September 18, 2017" seems to be added in the article accidentally

At the end of the introduction and just before the third citation "September 18, 2017" is present. It should be removed.— Preceding unsigned comment added by KingAegon (talk • contribs) 15:16, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Some thoughts

As someone who recently decided to look at this article (after seeing it mentioned on Wikipedia's current events portal), I find it odd there is apparently no mention of the backwards R at all in its current state. I'm aware the backwards R seems to be a problem point for the page (including the confusion with the Cyrillic letter), but it seems to me like basic information to add that someone may want to know if they read about Toys R Us (you may disagree of course). Especially since trying to edit the article now even gives you a notice about this feature of the logo. Why not just explain this in the article itself, so even casual readers can know it's not Ya (Cyrillic) and so on?

Regarding the original research/guess issue with the reasoning for the backwards R itself ("like a child wrote it" or "to show how a child would write it" etc) I've also been noticing here, the official site's own history page [8] (go to June 1957) states a similar reasoning:

"The iconic Toys "R" Us logo was created, featuring a backwards "R", in order to give the impression that a child wrote it."

So there is a reference you can use for that at least, if that counts at all.

Lastly, the 1986 to 2006 Toys R Us logo seems to be bizarrely big right now, and has been since June this year. Someone should probably fix that.

Hope these thoughts/suggestions of mine help at all! 82.9.105.98 (talk) 12:44, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Just so you know, I dealt with the logo-related issues myself, now that the page is no longer edit-protected. 82.9.105.98 (talk) 02:48, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 October 2017

In the "Logo" section near the bottom of the page (before "See also"), I suggest changing

<gallery mode="packed">

to:

<gallery class="center">

This should fix the 1986-2006 logo looking stupidly large compared to the 1975 logo (this is likely because the 1975 logo image has white space above/below it, and the 1986 logo image does not), and keeps the center justify. 82.9.105.98 (talk) 01:23, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done Neil S. Walker (talk) 01:27, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Update

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-5203517/Toys-R-avoids-collapse-agreeing-pension-payment.html 16:33, 23 December 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trish pt7 (talk • contribs)

Fake News about closing the US Stores!

I was on their Facebook page. I found nothing on going out of business. They are closing 182 out of 698 stores in the USA. They also state that Our stores are open for business, and ready to bring joy to children wherever we can, and to help new and expecting parents navigate the crazy world of raising a family. https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2018/03/09/no-sign-trouble-local-toys-r-us-rumors-bankruptcy-fly/411523002/ ~BuddyBoy600 (talk)

Most UK stores are closing because in UK, the company is worse financial trouble then they are in US. Yay Dad (talk) 23:43, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
The US stores are indeed closing, as is now reflected in the lead. Kerdooskis (talk) 22:17, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
FWIW there's quite a few sources on it but none from recognised sources (IE BBC, DailyMail and the alike), If the official US social medias aren't making any sort of statement on it then it should probably be left out. –Davey2010Talk 22:55, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
I agree with you, User:Davey2010. I found out from Facebook. Take a look at their [Facebook page] and their [Facebook page]. There was no evidence that they are going out of business. However when I went to their [Facebook Page], Their cover photo reads "Going Out Of Business". So it appears that we will lose the UK branch. ~BuddyBoy600 (Talk)

Anyone who uses the term "fake news" in public ought to be required to explain — in detail AND in perpetuity — specifically what it is about which they are squawking. That term is generally a confrontational meme, employing assault with implied threat of battery in order to kill discussion of a topic the utterer finds uncomfortable. (Assault: "threat of imminent harmful or offensive contact with a person, or a threat to do so.") This behaviour is certainly inappropriate for anyone who claims to be a WP editor.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 13:33, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Some TRU stores may still stay open.

Users keep changing the posts to say the company is going out of business and stuff. TRU said that some of their stores might remain open. The page is already semi locked. Lets try to keep the fate saying "in liquidation" and not "Chapter 7 Bankruptcy". Also, I dont think its an good idea to put Defunct in the infobox hntil we get confirmation that all stores are closing. The company has not press released anything about all stores closing yet. Bang. (talk) 00:04, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

I agree. It did say 182 stores. It says so right here: https://www.toysrusinc.com/uploads/tinymce/uploaded/Store%20Closing%20List_2.9.2018.pdf ~BuddyBoy600 (talk)

Expand on expansion

The article glosses over perhaps the most interesting part of the company history, specifically their rapid expansion nationwide in the 1970s. Could an established editor properly research and expand on the history of the company's expansion? Thanks.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1008:B12C:65A9:7595:E5F5:E0ED:EF52 (talk) 17:52, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Edit request.

"On March 15, 2018, it was announced that Toys "R" Us is officially going out of business and liquidating all 800 of its stores, starting May 14.[13][14]"

Should be US stores.

8.40.151.110 (talk) 01:49, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:20, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

MGA Entertainment might save Toys R Us

It might be good news. I got a word from Issac Larian. If MGA purchase Toys R Us. Maybe Toys R Us will survive. Here is the details. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1975697179358839&set=a.1577168429211718.1073741830.100007557288908&type=3&theater ~BuddyBoy600 (talk)

Only in Canada, nowhere else on the planet. -- 70.52.10.192 (talk) 07:25, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

One Report Said They Might Try And Keep At Least 400 USA Stores Open! Hopefully They Can Keep All 735! 2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:6140:B916:1CFE:F792 (talk) 08:44, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2018

Pease change "Toys "R" Us, Inc. (stylized as ToysЯus since 1968) is a soon-to-be-defunct American toy and juvenile-products retailer founded in 1948 and headquartered in Wayne, New Jersey, in the New York City metropolitan area to Toys "R" Us, Inc. (stylized as ToysЯus since 1968) is an American toy and juvenile-products retailer founded in 1948 and headquartered in Wayne, New Jersey, in the New York City metropolitan area. The US is not the only country that has Toys R Us, all the Australian stores are going to remain open and I assume those in other countries except the UK. [9] 120.144.11.207 (talk) 07:34, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Comment. It's good for the article to have a global outlook, and I would support the proposed change if it were accompanied by a some additional text noting the pending closures. I do think it's important that the "soon-to-be-defunct" aspect be mentioned in the lead paragraph, however it's worded or wherever exactly it's placed. RivertorchFIREWATER 13:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 Not done: Per the rapid dissolution, even non-US operations are being liquidated. The company is in the process of finding buyers for foreign operations and they will either be closed or sold to another retailer. While the Australian operation has stated it's "business as usual", the CEO has confirmed that ...the company was likely to liquidate operations in France, Spain, Poland and Australia as well. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:27, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2018

Toys R Us Officially Announced It's American Stores Closing On March 14, But They Filed The Legal Papers On The 15th, I'm Just Giving A Date Correction Also, The Canadian And Australian Branches Of Toys R Us Did Not Say Anything About Going Out Of Business. 207.172.180.75 (talk) 19:13, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: See above. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:20, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Brand Name Post USA Closure

The Brand Name Will Probably Still Be Used As The Asian And Canadian Units Are Still Running — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.4.121.50 (talk) 20:12, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2018

Pease change "Toys "R" Us, Inc. (stylized as ToysЯus since 1968) is a soon-to-be-defunct American toy and juvenile-products retailer founded in 1948 and headquartered in Wayne, New Jersey, in the New York City metropolitan area to Toys "R" Us, Inc. (stylized as ToysЯus since 1968) is an American toy and juvenile-products retailer founded in 1948 and headquartered in Wayne, New Jersey, in the New York City metropolitan area. The Australian stores are remaining open, a spokesperson for Toys R Us Australia said that it's "business as usual". The source I provided confirming the information was published 4 hours ago. The Toys R Us stores in all Asian countries are going to remain open, so please change it.

[10] [11] 121.214.56.216 (talk) 23:51, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done This "soon to be" determination is not something I've seen in other Wikipedia articles as it is so patently WP:FUTURE. It should not be a part of the first 5 words in the article, especially since the closing is already addressed in the last sentence of the lead. The store can only be 'in business or out of business. "Soon to be" implies that it is both. The article's first sentence should be either is or was. To quote Yoda: "Do or do not. There is no try." Spintendo      01:55, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for making the changes @Spintendo:. (121.214.56.216 (talk) 02:30, 17 March 2018 (UTC))

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2018

Please remove the asterisk (*) next to "Australia Australia: 45" of the Oceania section that is part of the broader "Stores" section of the article. The stores are going to remain open in Australia. (121.214.56.216 (talk) 23:59, 16 March 2018 (UTC)) 121.214.56.216 (talk) 23:59, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done JTP (talk • contribs) 03:51, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for making the changes @NotTheFakeJTP: (JTP). (121.214.56.216 (talk) 04:40, 17 March 2018 (UTC))

Toys R Us is shutting down worldwide

I am not kidding. Here is the details:https://hypebae.com/2018/3/toys-r-us-bankruptcy-filing-closing-stores-us-uk-worldwide?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share+buttons ~BuddyBoy600 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:30, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

It says Canada, Central Europe and Asia might survive, maybe even as "Toys R Us" if it includes selling/licensing the naming rights, so "worldwide" is conditional -- 70.52.10.192 (talk) 03:50, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Capitalization of section headings

From the recent history of this article:

Velella has warned you not to do this; and, as you ignored this warning, Imaginatorium again warned you not to do it.

I quote Wikipedia's Manual of Style:

Use sentence case, not title case, capitalization in all section headings. Capitalize the first letter of the first word, but leave the rest lower case except for proper names and other items that would ordinarily be capitalized in running text.

I trust that this is clear. Please observe it.

You, Scott Bell-Moss, are of course free to disagree with what the Manual of Style says and to attempt to have it changed. The place for doing so is not in this or any other article (or in this or any other article talk page) but instead Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters. (To have any chance of success, you will have to be very persuasive.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:40, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

It looks like Toys R Us express may stay open in North America

I found it out! Here is the details [12] ~User:BuddyBoy600 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:43, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Your signature is broken. It will break archival bots. You need to fix your signature template to include a timestamp -- 70.52.10.192 (talk) 03:44, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Toys R Us maybe closing in Canada as well!

Here is the details [13] ~BuddyBoy600 (talk) 20:38, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Toys R Us is closing worldwide. --FigfiresSend me a message! 10:21, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
I know that! ~BuddyBoy600 (talk) 21:09, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Was or is

It has been in the news recently that Toy's'rus could soon be going into administration. This will mean that the opening sentence of this article will have to change "is an American toy and juvenile products retailer" to "was an American toy and juvenile products retailer". Vorbee (talk) 20:49, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

I believe we'll have to wait until they fully shutdown before we can swap that word. —JJBers 17:50, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Don’t jump the gun just yet! They are still open until May.

100.36.26.39 (talk) 15:01, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Charles Lazarus article spinoff?

I was surprised to find the the material on Toys R Us founder Charles Lazarus here in this article, rather than a separate article.

Given that he just died, it may be a good time to split this into a separate article.Ryoung122 22:26, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

There is a redirect for him, which allows for future expansion, but, unless enough coverage is found to satisfactorily improve it, it's best to leave it pointing here. — Wyliepedia @ 01:36, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

World's biggest toy store?

In the seventies, the stores's jingle was "The world's biggest toy store is Toys 'R' Us..." Was Toys R Us ever the worlds biggest toy store? If so, by what definition? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.225.17.141 (talk) 00:28, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

A jingle isn't a reliable source for a claim like that. —JJBers 17:49, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for stopping by, Captain Obvious, but that's not an answer to either of the questions.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 12:58, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2018

Please create a hyperlink to Charles Lazarus. 68.188.55.126 (talk) 00:27, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: Charles Lazarus redirects back to this article. Gulumeemee (talk) 09:28, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Defunct?

In Case The GoFundMe Page Works, Remove All References Of Defunct.

Add It Again If The Page Fails. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.4.121.50 (talk) 21:09, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Well, They are officially closing worldwide. Even the Canadian store maybe selling and may become Mastermind Toys. Mastermind Toys is a Toys R Us rival for Canada. http://currenthollywood.com/2018/03/toys-r-us-closing-selling-stores/ ~BuddyBoy600 (BuddyBoy600) 13:46 30 March 2018
The (Indian) source that you cite immediately above is about the US. It's not about Canada, let alone the rest of the world. -- Hoary (talk) 12:17, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

But The GoFundMe Page Might Work, So They Might Not Close, And Even Then, There Is No Proof Of The Non USA/UK Stores Closing, So Its Not Going Defunct, Also The Brand Name Will Remain.§ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.185.116.94 (talk) 20:53, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Toys R US closing "world wide", which is what the sources say. GoodDay (talk) 23:17, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Yet Most News Reports Don't Say Closing Worldwide, So Closures Other Than The USA And UK Are Unconfirmed. And The Brand Name Will Live On.2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:F971:53D3:2DA7:AAC2 (talk) 15:09, 1 April 2018 (UTC) Its Unsure About WorldWide Closures, One Report Said "Worldwide?"2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:E9DD:ABB1:3933:56EB (talk) 07:33, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

"punctuation mistakes" and date formats

Scott Bell-Moss, when you talk of correcting "punctuation mistakes", do you mean changing date order from month-day-comma-year to day-month-year?

If not, then what do you mean?

How does your change of date format square with what's written in Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Retaining_the_existing_format? -- Hoary (talk) 00:44, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

In view of the hidden SGML comment at the very start of the article, I have reverted this. -- Hoary (talk) 05:15, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Scott Bell-Moss, I note that you have not responded to what I wrote above, and that you have reverted the change to M-D-Y date format. Is it difficult to read and understand either (a) what I wrote above, or (b) the very start of the article? (I quote the latter: <!-- Please use the 'Month Day, Year' format. Not the 'Day Month Year' format. -->.) -- Hoary (talk) 09:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
@Scott Bell-Moss: You're starting to edit war over this. Can you please stop reverting the dates. Also stop trying to mess around with dates and add repetitive facts. —JJBers 12:47, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


US store lists

Here are lists of US stores. Since the store locator function will go away, these will be useful in determining former US (including PR) stores

WhisperToMe (talk) 17:59, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2018

Change "On March 29, 2018, they shut down the website, making it redirect to toysrusclosingsale.com.[13]" to "On March 29, 2018, they shut down purchasing on the websites, greeting visitors with a message that indicates the shutdown of purchases on the site and includes a link which redirects to toysrusclosingsale.com". Parttime18 (talk) 08:52, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

I'll add part of it, but the latter half is too repetitive. —JJBers 18:55, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

"Soon to be defunct"?

There's an edit war going on in the lead about whether to say that TRU is soon to be defunct.

One question: Is it clear that TRU is "soon to be defunct"?

And if yes, it is clear, then a follow-up question: Should its soon-to-be-defunctness be stated in the lead?

Please discuss this here, and don't make any more changes till there's agreement here. -- Hoary (talk) 07:25, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

The company is still operating. It hasn't declared any liquidation or announced it was shutting down locations outside of the USA and the UK. Just because a company says it is shutting down doesn't mean that we can just say it's defunct. Wait until June at the least. I feel this explains it to a degree. (Without regarding the bad grammar)

"not necessary the company is not defunct yet and do not list soon to be defunct because the canadian operations have not gone away as they are already being saved hopefully 200-400 USA stores can be saved too another reason why can't be soon to be defunct"

— User:Yay Dad, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toys_%22R%22_Us&oldid=834329352
—JJBers 17:23, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Sorry about the bad grammar! Edit summary never pay attention sometime. Yay Dad (talk) 01:22, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

I Don't Get The Point, Cause I've Seen Other Soon To Be Defunct Company's On Wikipedia In The Past And None Of Them Said "Soon To Be Defunct", Probably Some Silly Edit! PS: It Wouldn't Be Defunct If The Brand Name Lives On And They Get Saved, Let Alone Its Unknown What Will Happen To Their International Branches Other Than Britain!2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:6140:B916:1CFE:F792 (talk) 08:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

UK Store Count Correction

106, Also Not All Closed On The 24th, 25 Closed Between March 7th And March 15th, One Closed On March, 12 Closed On April 20th, 14 Closed On The 21st, 12 On The 22nd, 13 On The 23rd And The Remaining Ones On The 24th, So Change The UK Store Count To "106 (Closed Between March 7th And April 24th 2018)2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:1C8A:4AC3:E072:6A17 (talk) 14:56, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

That's unnecessary amounts of detail. —JJBers 17:01, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Worldwide?

Is this:

The next day, on 15 March 2018, it was announced that Toys "R" Us is going out of business and selling all 1,758 locations worldwide

actually based on the cited sources? The claim comes with a number of references:

  • CNBC talks of the US stores and says nothing about any store outside the US or Canada.
  • Westfair online has a title about stores in general but the text is only about US stores.
  • Hypebae talks about the possibility that all will be closed.
  • Mtlblog says that the Canadian branches will be closed.
  • The Star talks (21 March) vaguely about the US and Canadian branches.
  • Straight talks (29 March) about the Vancouver branch.

I'd say that no it doesn't. The sources are misrepresented; they're a mishmash of US and Canada, and of reliable-looking sources and columnist waffle.

A few minutes ago, I reverted an edit. I must confess that I was overly influenced by THE VERY EXCITED-SOUNDING EDIT SUMMARY that accompanied it. Well, what's described in all caps can on occasion be an improvement. (Sorry, Josh0108!) About to self-revert. -- Hoary (talk) 08:47, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

That is true, Josh0108. Those source stated that Canada is closing as well. ~BuddyBoy600 (User talk:BuddyBoy600) 07:03, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Which source(s), BuddyBoy600? -- Hoary (talk) 12:18, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Well, The Vancouver Straight also stated that Toys R Us is closing all 1,795 stores worldwide as well. ~BuddyBoy600 (talk) 14:23, 1 April 2018
No it doesn't. The article is about the Vancouver branch, not the world; but it does devote half a sentence to the latter: All 1,758 Toys “R” Us stores in the world are expected to either close or be sold. So it doesn't state that they are being closed; it says that some persons (who?) or news sources (which?) expect that they will be closed or sold. And if this seems like nitpicking, please consider Tower Records. -- Hoary (talk) 00:15, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, It did say All 1,758 Toys “R” Us stores in the world are expected to either close or be sold. Some of the locations in Canada might be replaced with Mastermind Toys. BuddyBoy600 (talk) 20:52, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
BuddyBoy600, at least one of us -- you or me -- is missing something. And I really think that this is you. I say, first, that "[X] is expected to happen" is not the same as "[X] will happen". Back in October 2016, a news program of a reputable broadcasting company could have said "Clinton is expected to win the election" (and truthfully so: there was such an expectation). It would not have said "Clinton will win the election", because such programs are not in the business of predicting the future (or anyway of doing so overtly). Please correct any misunderstanding I might have made here. Secondly, you cite an article from a Vancouver news source that's about a/the Vancouver store. This article devotes half of a single sentence to the world. Now, because this is a news article and not, say, a PhD thesis, the (homeless) writer can't be expected to be utterly reliable in every half-sentence about peripheral matters; so this is hardly worth citing (even for an expectation, let alone a prediction). Again, please correct any misunderstanding I might have made here. -- Hoary (talk) 07:20, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Also, Toys R Us Has Not Yet Announced Of Closing Worldwide, Wait Untill They Confirm That.2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:646E:8C10:BD14:2CDA (talk) 14:51, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Closing Worldwide Is A Lie

(Moved section to match with a similar section. —JJBers 17:09, 26 April 2018 (UTC))

The Canadian Branch Will Live On And Hopefully The Will Bring Back The UK Operations. Now, What Will Happen In Other Countries? Hmm?94.3.47.229 (talk) 07:15, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Uh, no! That is true. Take a look: https://www.straight.com/life/1051491/homeless-vancouver-bowmac-sign-faces-demolition-when-west-broadway-toys-r-us-shuts-down BuddyBoy600 (talk) 11:01, 26 April 2018 (EST)
Toys "R" Us hasn't officially announced it was closing worldwide yet. There have been no announcements beyond North America and Europe. —JJBers 17:07, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Toys R Us may be leaving Europe

I found out that it is being replaced with Smyths toy store. Just like in Canada, Their Toys R Us is being replaced with Mastermind Toys. Here is the details: https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/smyths-toys-to-buy-toys-r-us-in-germany-austria-and-switzerland-1.3469969 BuddyBoy600 (talk) 20:08, 21, April 2018 (EST) That Just Mentions Germany, Austria And Switerzerland, So The Rest Of The Euro Operations (Ithef Than The UK) Will Probably Continue Trading, Also, Canada's Toys R US's Future Is Uncertian.2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:4C45:E96A:B7CE:73A7 (talk) 14:51, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Sadly, The Toys R Us store in Vancouver BC, London ON, Windsor ON, and Winnipeg MB, have closed. And the historic BowMac sign is now gone. Another national landmark loss. ~BuddyBoy600 (talk) 15:08, 23, April, 2018. (EST)

But The Remaining Toys R Usses In Canada, Its Uncirtan, I'm Trying To Save (If They Close, Bring Back) The UK Operations With A Fundraiser Right Now! It's Unknown If It Will Work Of Not.2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:646E:8C10:BD14:2CDA (talk) 14:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC) Too late. The UK stores are all over now. 27.32.142.19 (talk) 09:53, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

@The Mobile IP user: Stop this self promotion of a fundraiser. This is not helping build the main page and deters conversation about the page. —JJBers 17:00, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

PS: Toys R Us In Canada Was Sold Off But The Brand Will Continue, Also, The Toys R Us Brand Will Live On, Even In Britain, So As For TRU In Canada, The Future Is Still Going2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:29DD:5A36:8BA8:DE02 (talk) 21:05, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Defunct Date

Add (In The United States) On The End, Because The Canadian Toys R Us Is Remaning Open Under A New Owner.2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:29DD:5A36:8BA8:DE02 (talk) 18:16, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Good article on history of company

Much if not most of this is missing from the article:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-06/toys-r-us-the-world-s-biggest-toy-store-didn-t-have-to-die

-- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:08, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2018

i think they're needs to be The fate of the company which is bankruptcy and liquadtaion and the "Toys R Us is an" needs to be changed to "Was a" Oh yeah and add the defunct of the company which is June 30th 2018 Thats all i have to say so who ever wrote this please take this seriously Sincerely,Jace_Likes_Ships_And_Games Jace Likes Ships And Games (talk) 03:36, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — IVORK Discuss 03:50, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Proof That The UK Closure Was Announced On March 2nd NOT March 14th

The Report "Toys R Us Slashes Down Prices As Closing Down Sale Starts" Was Announced On March 2nd, And All Stores Started Sales Prior To The 14th, Also, I Was Correct On The Closure Dates, As Only 12 Stores Closed On The 24th, 26 Closed In March, 1 Closed On April 13th, The Remaining 79 Closed Between April 18th-23rd, Also The Annoncement Said "Are Likely To", Not "Will", So Please Tell Me Why You Undid My Improved Edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.179.67 (talk) 19:19, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Disestablishments?

The AUS Toys R Us Is Still Going Strong, So, Olease Don't Ad Store Closures When Not Announced.2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:2C9E:9EEE:C73F:B4B2 (talk) 13:37, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

The Vancouver Straight reports that Toys R Us will be closing all 1,795 stores worldwide. ~BuddyBoy600 (talk) 22:40, 8 April 2018 (EST)
Expected to, not guaranteed. Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:25, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Toys R Us Never Comfirmed Closing Worldwide As Of April, So They Probably Guessed, Sorta Like The Dora End Date Mistake!2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:6140:B916:1CFE:F792 (talk) 08:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

The Windsor location had their closing sale. And the location just closed as of April 14. Toys R Us is closing worldwide BuddyBoy600 (talk) 11:20, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

That's not what you mean. Some Canadian stores are closing so Toys R Us Canada operations try to stay strong. Josh0108 (talk) 17:05, 16 April 2018 (EST)

I had to agree with Hoary. Toys R Us is not just closing the US (which is in The Prosess Of closing) and UK (which is already closed). I have a Facebook friend named Danielle Mallory. Her Toys R Us store in Saint Catharines Ontario will soon be closing as well. User:BuddyBoy600 (talk) 13:13, 16 April 2018 (EST)

A Friend From Australlia Told Me That Their Local Toys R Us Is Not Closing, Toys R Us Are Not Closing Worldwide, End Of Story.94.3.47.229 (talk) 19:36, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Here is the breaking news for Toys R Us Australia: https://thewest.com.au/business/toys-r-us-to-be-wound-up-in-australia-after-no-buyer-found-for-us-owned-chains-business-ng-b88872751z And look at another article: https://thewest.com.au/business/toys-r-us-to-be-wound-up-in-australia-after-no-buyer-found-for-us-owned-chains-business-ng-b88872751z Sadly, They are closing as well. BuddyBoy600 (talk) 08:10, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Closing date

This is just based off of a Twitter and Facebook post. Nothing official has come out from any press releases. I'm requesting that we at least wait until something more official comes out. —JJBers 19:43, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

CNN has reported, that the closing date is next week. GoodDay (talk) 01:14, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
That report doesn't specify a date. —JJBers 13:11, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

It's today. Bang 🌑 12:26, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Protection Edit Change

Maybe Undo The Edits To My Revision Because It Had A Few Corrections: 1.Remember What They Say About "Soon To Be Defunct" 2.The UK Closures Were Announced On March 2nd And Confirmed On March 14th, Between March 3rd And March 13th They Were Looking For An Owner 3.There Was 106 UK Stores, Not 105, Not 100, Not 81, 106! Go Count Them On The Closing Dates Site 4.Not All UK Stores Closed On The 24th, They Closed Gradually, 26 Closed In March 5.See Statement 2 6.No Need To Put A Longer Name If The Artical Has A Shorter Name, Simply Put The Short Name 7.TRU UK: Opened 1984 8.They Didn't Say "Will Close", They Said "Are Likely To", Also See Statement 2 9.TRU International And TRU Limited Are Also Divisions 10.The Logo Years: 1st Logo: 1948-1968 2nd Logo: 1968-1971 3rd Logo: 1971-1975 4th Logo: 1975-1986 5th Logo: 1986-1998 (USA), 1986-2008 (UK) 6th Logo: 1998-2007 (USA), 2001-2008 (UK) 7th Logo: 2007-2018 (USA), 2007- (Canada), 2008-2018 (UK And Possibly Australia), 2008- (Most Countries) 11.TRU Is Not Closing In Canada Because The Division Was Saved

So Hopefully You Understand Me, And Maybe Shorten The Protection, Although That Is Optional, PS Maybe Do My Request And Add The 1998/2001 Logo.86.183.179.67 (talk) 19:36, 15 June 2018 (UTC) 1998 Logo Link: http://logosfake.wikia.com/wiki/File:ToysRUsLogo.png86.183.179.67 (talk) 19:39, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

For 1 and 8, I've corrected it.
For 3, I can't find any sources that say there was 106 stores, only 100.
For number 4, that's just based on the last closure.
For 6, there are no longer names.
For 7, I'll insert if I can find a source. (Done)
For 9, It's already there, not sure if you didn't see that
For 10, I'll add in the one from 1998-2008 and the first one, but logo 2, 3, 4, and 5 are pretty similar other than color. (Done) —JJBers 22:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

4 More Changes To Do:

1.On The Line "On April 24, 2018, it was announced that the Canadian division would be sold to Fairfax Financial Holdings Ltd. for approximately $234 million. This will keep the 82 remaining stores in Canada to continue running under the Toys "R" Us brand." Remove The Words "Holidings Ltd", Because The Wikipedia Page For The Company Is Just Called Fairfax Financial.

2.On The UK Closure Line Under "Store Numbers", Change "On" To "By"

3.Add An As Of Date To The AUS Operations

4.Remove (1996-2018) From Babies R Us Because The International Operations (Except For Australia And Some Parts Of Europe) Are Unaffected, Such As France, Where TRU Trades As Good As Ever!

I Hope You Get It.86.183.179.67 (talk) 08:00, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Please use better grammar next time. Bang 🌑 14:15, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Toys R Us Could Be Revived

I Was Looking At Toys R Us News And I Found This, https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/25/former-toys-r-us-ceo-reportedly-considering-reviving-the-toy-retailer.html, Hopefully This Happens And Spreads To The UK As Well!2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:E8EF:4872:38F:C8F7 (talk) 20:41, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

That's great but this has little to do with contributionss with the actual page. The talk page is not an speculation or rumors forum. See WP:CRYSTAL. Bang 🌑 21:16, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2018

Please: Change "was an" to "is a defunct" because Toys R Us no longer exists only in USA and UK. Not globally. 64.237.236.40 (talk) 02:19, 29 June 2018 (UTC) 64.237.236.40 (talk) 02:19, 29 June 2018 (UTC) Maybe Even Remove Defunct, Also It's Soon To Close In Australia For The Same Reason!2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:3C9B:794E:ED9A:61D0 (talk) 07:08, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea what the hell your saying right now. Use actual grammar. Also, your request makes zero sense as there is no reason to semi protect this page in your explanation. Bang 🌑 12:29, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Shouldn't this still be is and not was since the operation as a whole is not defunct? Only England and US operations are. :) Yay Dad (talk) 16:51, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Correct. Bang 🌑 18:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

On The "Ceased To Exist" Part, Add "USA" After Remaining.2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:E8F5:2B5A:74A7:7CD1 (talk) 17:12, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2018

I want to ad a picture of a closed toys r us in Bangor Maine 24.198.169.196 (talk) 20:28, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: I can't add it until you supply the image's name. L293D (☎ • ✎) 21:11, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2018

Please change "is" to "was" in the first sentence. 2601:589:8000:2ED0:8409:7077:84CA:9B1 (talk) 04:16, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: the company still has stores in other countries. L293D (☎ • ✎) 11:50, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Canadian stores that have actually closed

I found out that several Canadian stores has closed. Here is one of them: https://www.yelp.com/biz/toys-r-us-toronto-2?utm_campaign=Jul-02-2018&utm_medium=email&utm_source=business_change_notify_v2 ~BuddyBoy600 (Talk page) 15:31, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2018

Toys "R" Us, Inc.[nb 1] was an American toy, clothing, video game, and baby product retailer founded in April 1948, and its headquarters were located in Wayne, New Jersey.

Please Change The Tense Past Tense APaoloL (talk) 14:35, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: Toy "R" Us still operates its international operations, so present tense is appropriate. --Danski454 (talk) 14:38, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Date format

At the top of the article, it says:

<!-- Please use the 'Month Day, Year' format in this article. Not the 'Day Month Year' format. -->

I believe that the former format is used primarily in the United States. Now that this company is exclusive to other countries, does it make sense that we can change the format?? Georgia guy (talk) 13:25, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: TRU is based in the US, so MDY is appropriate. Quetstar (talk) 15:37, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Write the article in past tense

Didn't you read the topic name? Write the article in past tense! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:8D47:5800:DD1A:7C45:D9D:16C6 (talk) 22:59, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

I think the consensus is to keep it present tense to match the international locations. Can someone back me up on this? —JJBers 04:08, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes, the consensus is to keep the article in present tense Quetstar (talk) 00:59, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi Protected Edit Change

In The UK Part Of International Stores, Change "On" To "By". Because Some Closed In Prior Days, Such As Merry Hill Whcih Closed On The 20th. Some Even Closed Several Years Ago!2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:2077:869E:90B6:B9AE (talk) 14:49, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

 Done: —JJBers 05:22, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Now Do The Same For The Aussie Stores.2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:58D9:C2A8:19C7:B989 (talk) 17:54, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Past or Present tense?

What's the consensus right now? Is it past or present tense? Quetstar (talk) 20:34, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Always present, per MOS:TENSE. Additionally, it still has an international presence, which is explained in the article. Scr★pIronIV 13:22, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2018

86.27.68.21 (talk) 21:48, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

was a

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sakura CarteletTalk 03:16, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2018

Please change from is to was as toys r us is no longer a company 172.96.34.191 (talk) 11:20, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: the style manual (and consensus) supports maintaining a present tense. Also, see above for previous explanations of way the tense is kept as present. --DannyS712 (talk) 11:49, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Edit Request

Not All Australian Stores Closed On August 5th, Some Closed On Days Prior, Such As July 31st.2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:E855:AC36:5251:7758 (talk) 20:08, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Proof: https://www.hit.com.au/news/national/toys-r-us-announce-official-closing-date, It Says On Or Around August 4th/5th, So Some Closed On August 4th, And Some Closed Days Prior. Not All On The 5th, Just Like How Not All UK Ones Closed On April 24th, And Not All USA Ones Closed On June 30th. So Change "On" To "By" When Talking About The Aussie Stores.2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:E855:AC36:5251:7758 (talk) 07:41, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2018

Toys R us was an empire, an empire that changed us all JoseQuintero911 (talk) 23:14, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Not done. Not a coherent edit request. -- Hoary (talk) 23:47, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2018

i. want edit gimie edit 2600:8800:AD01:8700:4557:72C0:C2E0:C5CD (talk) 01:39, 14 December 2018 (UTC) THIS COMPANY IS NO MORE ITS BIG OOF AND SHUT DOWN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:AD01:8700:4557:72C0:C2E0:C5CD (talk) 01:40, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sakura CarteletTalk 01:50, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Why is there so little history from 1960s to 1990s...

but there is extensive history in the 2000s and 2010s, as well as formation of the company. did nothing notable happen in that timespan, or has no one bothered to research it? MDaxo (talk) 18:48, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Recentism is the most likely explanation. - BilCat (talk) 14:23, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2019

92.28.214.154 (talk) 21:49, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Toys "R" Us. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. ToThAc (talk) 01:19, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2019

92.28.214.154 (talk) 21:47, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Toys "R" Us. If possible, please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. If you cannot edit the article's talk page, you can instead make your request at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for edits to a protected page. ToThAc (talk) 01:20, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 14:58, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2019

92.28.214.154 (talk) 16:07, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NiciVampireHeart 00:20, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

TRU still exists.

Even thought TRU's US and UK stores are closed for good, Toys "R" Us, Inc. (the owner of TRU and BRU.) remains in existence as the owner of the company's international stores (with the exception of the Canadian ones, which were bought by Fairfax a while back). Quetstar (talk) 19:58, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

So it still exists in Australia, for clarification. Georgia guy (talk) 19:56, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
The Australian stores are closing as well. Quetstar (talk) 20:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
But what country is not closing soon?? Georgia guy (talk) 21:39, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
None, for now. Quetstar (talk) 22:53, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes, but the main company based in America, is defunct. —JJBers 00:23, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
TRU's international stores (except those in Canada) are still under the ownership of the main company (Toys "R" Us, Inc.). Quetstar (talk) 00:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

For 1, I Don't Think There Are Closing For Good, As Their CEO Reported A Revival And For 2, TRU in Asia Is Traiding Very Well, So Change "Was" To "Is"2A02:C7D:3E8E:7200:E8F5:2B5A:74A7:7CD1 (talk) 15:39, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

 Done Quetstar (talk) 21:26, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Toys R Us continues to work in the Iberian peninsula with its old brand after a Portuguese fund bought the brand. There are working toys r us in Spain and Portugal. https://elpais.com/economia/2018/09/13/actualidad/1536852698_291597.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.225.93.4 (talk) 10:29, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Article about Toys R Us in Japan, from 2000

https://web.archive.org/web/20020425182316/http://lookjapan.com/LBecobiz/OOOctTOJ.htm From Look Japan WhisperToMe (talk) 11:49, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Officially hosted on YouTube videos about TRU bankruptcy

WhisperToMe (talk) 07:45, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2019

The reference source [65] is an unreliable/unoriginal reporting blog. Please consider changing:

  • FROM*

The Australian wing of Toys "R" Us entered voluntary administration on May 22.[1]

  • TO*

The Australian wing of Toys "R" Us entered voluntary administration on May 22.[2] Pthomas86 (talk) 01:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done Philroc (c) 17:47, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Toys 'R' Us Oz Enters Administration After Sale Falls Through | channelnews". www.channelnews.com.au. Retrieved May 23, 2018.
  2. ^ "Toys 'R' Us goes into administration in Australia | News.com.au". www.news.com.au. Retrieved Nov 11, 2019.

Brief Irish operations

There was a franchise operation in Ireland from 2015-16, only got two stores open before failing. Would add myself but the article is protected opening: https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/toys-r-us-opens-shop-in-dublin-15-1.674950 closing: https://www.independent.ie/business/jobs/toysrus-shuts-in-ireland-after-six-months-34419226.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.228.228.172 (talk) 18:56, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Saudi stores

Saudi stores are not operated by "Qatar Petroleum" as indicated! They are owned and operated by a Saudi company called "Tasweeq".

https://www.toysrus.com.sa/en-us/about-us — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khalid.at (talk • contribs) 09:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Unclear

"The company had been in the toy business for more than 65 years and operated around 800 stores in the United States and around 800 outside the U.S., although these numbers have steadily decreased with time." in the opening paragraph. The use of "had been" requires a base date, but there is none given. The only near-by date is 1940-something. But that would put the beginning date before 1900, though there is internal text indicating this is wrong, since nothing in the opening tals about the 19th century. Kdammers (talk) 01:30, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

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