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RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive[edit]

The Sopranos[edit]

The Wikipedia tutorial is a good place to start learning about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages using four tildes. The software will replace them with your signature and the date. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 16:46, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Before saving your changes to an article, please provide an edit summary, which you forgot to do before saving your recent edit to The Sopranos. Doing so helps everyone understand the intention of your edit (and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism). It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 19:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Your edits to The Sopranos may be discussed on Talk:The Sopranos. Feel free to add your thoughts. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 04:21, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Regarding your message: it is best if you make your case at the article talk page, just follow the link I left above. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 00:46, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Greetings![edit]

I hope you are still out there and still at it. It would be good to hear from you. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 17:30, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello!
I cannot tell you how pleased I was earlier this evening when I saw your greeting. I was on my way out then, hence the delayed response. I have always regarded you as my mentor, and I've missed your influence.
I did leave you a message in the section "Huh?" on your talk page on December 19, 2011, and then I too had a break from Wikipedia until January 10. Since then I have kept at it. Did you want me to do anything particular? Hope all is well with you,
Best wishes, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:40, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
I am glad to hear back from you, and glad you are still here and working. Let me know if I can be of any help to you. I am at work on an article right now, which is why I have not been editing on a daily basis for the last month or so. But, still at it after that much needed break. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 00:10, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Good to know you are there should I need you. I'll certainly let you know. Together with User:MarnetteD we have been keeping The Godfather as I believe you would like it. Keep in touch. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 00:21, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Regarding your message[edit]

Hello again,

You kindly said that I should ask if I needed your help. I promise not to be a pest, but in view of your considerable experience in coping with the vandals and the like, could you just tell me what happens next after my posting a report on the Administrators' noticeboard, regarding continuous vandalism and disruptive behaviour by a non-registered IP at an Open Proxy address. I don't understand the next stage of the process. Do I just wait... will I be contacted?

The poster never fills in an Edit summary and warnings posted on the IP Talk page never receive an acknowledgement. Please reply on your page; I have noticed that is how you prefer to operate. Thanks, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:28, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I apologize for the delay. I saw your message earlier today when I stopped in to look up something, but had no time then to reply. As it is, I am not really sure what to say. I have only been involved with ANI in the capacity of adding comments after others began the process. I have never made an ANI posting myself. The whole process seems rather arcane to me, which is why I have avoided whenever possible. I am sorry I cannot be of more help.
Can you give me further specifics about the problem you are having with the vandal? And a link to the ANI post?
Oh, and by the way, I have no worry whatsoever of you becoming a pest. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 04:05, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Thank you for your reply early this morning ( 04:05 hrs. over here)
Please don't concern yourself. I had assumed that you had experienced this action several times during the past years. I understand fully that you are avoiding the tedium of edit changing supervision nowadays and concentrating on proper, productive work. I do a little myself, but I am still not confident enough to start an article from scratch like you have so often.
I greatly appreciate your final comment. Thank you, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:59, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I was, and remain, quite serious in my offer of help. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 17:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Just to let you know.. and I hope I'm not tempting fate... that open proxy site has remained quiet since taking action . I did a follow-up with the admin involved a few days ago. Still keeping a very close eye on The Sopranos page and The Godfather page. Had some success on the Sopranos' Info'box/"starring... have a look, if you are not too busy! Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:52, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Oops...[edit]

Hello,

Please see my posting ( today's date ) on the Sopranos discussion page. No hard feelings, I hope! Kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:12, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem, and good note for the IP. (If only all such interactions on WP could be conducted so cordially.) AV3000 (talk) 12:18, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:24, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

The Sopranos (episode) Info' box[edit]

I have noticed that whilst a long list of guest actors features in this info' box, the "Starring" line is missing. I have added the four main actors/characters to the edit page, but, for some unknown reason, I cannot make the edit appear on the article page. Any help would be welcome. Regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:43, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I took a look at Template:Infobox Television episode and it appears it's not part of it apparently.--CyberGhostface (talk) 19:01, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Seems odd, doesn't it, especially as "guests" can be listed ... and it works on the The Sopranos' Info' box
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:51, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
I believe that's deliberate. The stars of a series don't change from episode to episode, but guests are specific to episodes. Individual episode articles don't need to repeat the full series details, or even single season details. That would be extremely redundant. Jay32183 (talk) 01:51, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your explanation. It makes sense when I think about it. Although, in this instance, it being the pilot, the omission of the names of the regular actors might appear to be unusual.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:14, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Were there really 16 actors billed as guest stars in this episode? Seems like a lot.-- TyrS   chatties  05:34, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Totally agree. Guest actors maybe... but "stars"? ...No.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:12, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

"Guest stars" or just guest actors? (possible edit request)[edit]

Hi,

Just wondering, when actors have appeared in an episode of a tv series but did not have starring roles (e.g. all the names from Amber Tamblyn down in the infobox for this episode of Buffy), is it appropriate to list them under "Guest stars" (especially if they were relatively unknown at the time)? And if not, would it be possible to add another parameter, for example "Also featuring", or perhaps even change "Guest stars" to "Guest actors" or something? (This issue may be related to the one raised in the previous section, since that article on an episode of the Sopranos has a ridiculously long-looking, to me anyway, "Guest stars" list - though I don't watch that show, so I have no idea, maybe they were all billed as guest stars.)

Thanks very much! -- TyrS   chatties  05:22, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello!
I agree with you.
Regarding The Sopranos (episode), it is the style of The Sopranos to feature the names of the "regulars" during the opening sequence – which is the same, every episode, except for the removal of The Twin Towers after the destruction of 9/11 – and list everyone else who appeared in that particular episode during the closing sequence.
Kind regards,
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:29, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Postscript: Can you explain to me what you meant by a (possible edit request) please? Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:45, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Gareth,
Thanks for your reply.
By "possible edit request" I was referring to where I asked if it might be possible to change the template to say "Guest actors" instead of "Guest stars" (or possibly, if people hated that idea for some reason, to add another line/parameter called something like "Also featuring" (or, I suppose, "guest actors"), for non-"star"ring actors (though there will probably be people who hate any change to any given template, I suppose, *sigh*).
Especially considering what you wrote about the way they do it on The Sopranos, it sounds to me like the former solution would be a lot simpler and easier.
Kind regards, -- TyrS   chatties  03:54, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello again!
I have just made this edit:
[[(cur|prev) 11:23, March 29, 2012 Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk | contribs) m . . (3,108 bytes) (+1) . . (Subst: “stars” → “actors” More accurate title (see The Sopranos (episode) discussion page.)]]
on the Template for television series episodes... waiting for the proverbial to hit the fan...
Your *sigh* (above) speaks volumes! It made me laugh. All the best, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk

Thanks very much for making that edit! I was too cowardly to do it myself. Hopefully it won't cause any uproars :) Kind regards, -- TyrS   chatties  12:56, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

List of The Sopranos characters[edit]

This article...

...is a disaster. There is rampant overlinking, numerous examples of poor writing, too much in-universe description, lots of speculation and opinions posing as fact, etc. This needs to be copy-edited from top to bottom. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 19:06, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


Grandniece not niece & Harriet's cousins - they are not three sisters[edit]

Hello again Frotronic,
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

Further to my having to revert your edit earlier today ... I reproduce below an extract of the family tree as included in the novel

                               Birger (Henrik's grandfather)
    Johan (Henrik's Uncle)                  Fredrik = Ulrika (Henrik's parents)
    b.1884                                  b.1886
 Sofia  Marit  Ingrid             Richard         Harald   Gregor   Gustav   Henrik Vanger
                                  b.1907             b.1911   b.1912   b.1918      b.1920
                        Gottfried = Isabella Keonig
                           b.1927      b.1928
                           Martin  Harriet                                 
                           b.1948        b.1950

I hope this has cleared up your misunderstanding. It is a very common one. Even more complicating is the fact that Henrik does often refer to Harriet as his "niece"!
Happy editing
Sincerely,
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16
14, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Plot spoilers[edit]

The use of spoilers here on Wikipedia is an old discussion. However I think the practice has been mostly abandoned over the past year or two.
With good reason too, in my opinion, because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia – one should expect that an article contains full details on the subject – including those details that may very well be plot spoilers. After all, we are not in the business of promoting or reviewing films and novels.
I trust that this is useful.
Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 16:16, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Help, please![edit]

A404 editing...[edit]

I am still a new boy, and much appreciate any help. Thank you for correcting my stupid, careless mistake. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:13, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Those of us who have been here for years still make stupid careless mistakes. :-( David Biddulph (talk) 12:16, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Citation Invisible Children, Inc[edit]

  • I cannot make the following reference appear properly in the References section of the article, Invisible Children, Inc

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118275/Kony-2012-video-director-Jason-Russell-suffering-reactive-psychosis.html

  • This is my effort...!

<ref name=Spagat /><ref>{{cite news |http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118275/Kony-2012-video-director-Jason-Russell-suffering-reactive-psychosis.html |date=April 8, 2012 |accessdate=April 8, 2012}}</ref>

    • Fixed. You forgot to add the url parameter.--GoPTCN 19:09, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
      • ... and I've added title and publisher parameters. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:18, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

<ref name=Spagat /><ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118275/Kony-2012-video-director-Jason-Russell-suffering-reactive-psychosis.html |title=Wife of Kony video director filmed running naked through streets says he was suffering from 'reactive psychosis' due to stress and exhaustion|publisher=Daily Mail|date=April 8, 2012 |accessdate=April 8, 2012}}</ref>

  • Hello David, Once again you have come to my rescue with amazing speed. Thank you very much. Kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:34, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Good evening GreatOrangePumkin, Thank you very much for your amazingly fast response to my citing problem earlier this evening. I would have replied earlier, but initially had mistakenly read your posting together with your (very attractive) signature as the first part of David's reply to me. He had not left a line break. It was only on going back to it just now that I realised my misunderstanding. With kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:28, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Bradypus[edit]

Brown-throated sloth
The brown-throated sloth (Bradypus variegatus) is the most common species of three-toed sloth. It is found in the forests of South and Central America. Males and females are both about 42–80 cm (17–31 in) in total body length and weigh 2.25–6.3 kg (5–14 lb).Photo: Christian Mehlführer

December 12, 2011, Picture of the day

This user is a WikiSloth.


Dashes[edit]

A question for you. What is the purpose of – i.e. { { n dash } } ? Why not just type - ? Kindest regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I happened to see this question: see Dash for considerable explanation. Nadiatalent (talk) 17:08, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Nadia (again!) - a better answer than I would have given, and actually quite educational for myself, too - I'm sure that in my editing, I'm inserting inappropriately-lengthed dashes all over the place! (probably a couple in that last sentence...) PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 18:27, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
... and thank you from me, Nadiatalent. Your reply has led me on and on, to learn more and more!
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:39, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Gareth, thank you for your thanks! I haven't read all of the Dash page myself, but it looks as if many hours of amusement could be had perusing it and either putting some of its recommendations into effect or disputing them. Best wishes, Nadiatalent (talk) 22:57, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

P.S. What a lovely sloth. A wonderful genus name too, Bradypus, which I'd guess must mean "slow footed". Nadiatalent (talk) 22:58, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

More on dash[edit]

Wikipedia:How to make dashes#Long explanation

The lead: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011 film)[edit]

I would be interested to know what it is, that you don't like about my naming "the lead", Prologue? Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 13:46, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

You'd be the first person doing it? I prefer consistency and I'm guessing the consensus is the same. Have a look at any other article. By the way, if you name the lead section "Prologue", it no longer becomes the lead but just another section. In fact, the lead section disappears and the article begins with the contents. Rather ugly in my opinion, and others' too it seems, which is why it's not done. Ever. Also, it's not a story or novel for it to have a "prologue" or "epilogue" or whatever; it's an article. Feudonym (talk) 14:00, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your prompt reply. I understand perfectly. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 14:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
You're welcome. Sorry if I sounded a bit abrupt. Feudonym (talk) 02:23, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Not at all. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! All the best from the UK for 2012 from,
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:09, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Happy New Year[edit]

Nadolig llawen and best wishes for 2012!
Neat Talk Page, Gareth! All the best for the New Year. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:24, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Revision number[edit]

Let's assume that you're looking at your watchlist. Find an edit which shows an edit summary of the type you are thinking of. Go to the left-hand end of that line, where there are two links "diff" and "hist". Right-click on the "diff" one, and from the menu which appears, select "Copy link location". Come back here, open the edit window, and at the bottom, right-click and select "Paste". Sign it, and save.

Just had a closer look at the specific revision you referred to [2] ~ Vadmium ~ Vadmium (talk) ~ Vadmium (contributions)

Great service from both of you – it never ceases to impress me how helpful you "seniors" are to "the new boy". The editor who welcomed me – RepublicanJacobite – inspired me constantly and I used him as a role model until Christmas – thank you, Redrose – and thank you, Vadmium. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk)

Edit conflict[edit]

The main information page is Help:Edit conflict. If you do get an edit conflict, you will see two edit windows; the upper one contains what the page has become since you started editing (but contains none of your edit), the lower one is the edit window that you have been typing into. The intention is that you compare one with the other, adjust the top one to match the bottom one, and then save. This can be difficult, especially since if you had chosen to edit one section, the top one will still contains the entire page whereas the bottom one will contain only the one section that you were editing. I normally find that it's usually easiest to:
  • ignore the top one and go to the bottom one
  • mark the text that you entered since you began that edit and copy that to clipboard
  • use the "back" button on your browser to return to the page as it was before you began editing
  • edit the same section again, paste in the text from your clipboard
  • preview and save.

Creating that link[edit]

Hello Vadmium,

Thank you for your considerable help last night. Your "Oops, how did that get there?" edit summary was referring to a problem that I had earlier when I hit an "edit conflict" and did not understand how I was supposed to "merge". I have not found the answer on the Help page. I wondered if you had any advice.

I was very impressed with how you were able to link me directly to my example edit page within The Sopranos revision history and I wanted to know the meaning of [{{fullurl:The... (obviously the rest makes complete sense.)

With best wishes

Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:01, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

My “oops” thing was entirely my fault; no conflict with anyone else. As I was writing my second response, I opened The Sopranos in a new tab, and I must have selected the URL and pasted it with the middle mouse button without realising (too easy to do with a Linux computer).
 A real edit conflict is when you take one version of a page and change it, but in the meantime someone else has also changed it. It’s rather annoying, but you have to review what the other change is, and redo your changes on top of it if they are still relevant. Main point that I can remember when I last got an edit conflict is that there are actually two edit boxes presented and your changes are still in one of them, so it might be a good idea to copy them somewhere safe. Sometimes if you use the section editing instead of editing the whole page I think you can avoid conflicts with edits to different sections.
 The Help:fullurl page might be useful to you, but it’s a bit technical. Basically you write the name of a wiki page and it generates the rest of the URL or address including en.wikipedia.org or whatever. I only used it because I probably know more than is healthy to know about the Media Wiki software that is used on Wikipedia :). For most people it’s probably simpler to just load up the special page that shows the diff or whatever, copy the URL, and then paste it directly into the conversation, which pretty much has the same effect. Vadmium (talk, contribs) 01:13, 27 January 2012 (UTC).
Once again, I am indebted to you. You explain matters so clearly and make what would seem to me initially as incomprehensible, perfectly understandable. I am enjoying learning so much about "computing" since I started on Wikipedia last autumn. I find it therapeutic for "the old brain"... shall be hitting 70 in April.
With kindest wishes,
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:36, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Your "Dash" Discussion comment[edit]

I have just noticed your comment, and have edited the relevant sentence. What do you think? Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:28, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. That is a big improvement. I was misreading "the word to be used" as one phrase and quite missing the point of the sentence. I made a further tweak as I still found it easy to fall into that mistake. Wanderer57 (talk) 20:02, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I have seen your tweak and agree that it is now perfectly understandable.
It was a mess before your observation. Glad to be of help. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 21:40, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

My 1961 Land Rover Series IIA ... purchased in 1990 ... and still sailing through every annual MOT test and running well[edit]

Land Rover Series
80-inch Series I
Overview
ManufacturerLand Rover
Production1948–1985
AssemblySolihull, England
Body and chassis
ClassOff-road vehicle
LayoutFR layout/All-wheel drive
Chronology
SuccessorLand Rover Ninety & One Ten
This user is an MGB GT owner.

Hello again!
After making the two MGB userboxes for me earlier this month, you very kindly offered to help me again in the future.
Well – I would be thrilled if you were to make another one indicating that same message as shown on the MGB GT.
Below is an image that I would like you to use.
I have "cheated" a little, in that I have taken the photograph from the Wikipedia Land Rover Series article, but,
apart from the fact that mine has the old-style (grey metal symbols on black metal) numberplates, and does not have those rather modern-looking overtaking mirrors on the doors,
one would swear that it is an image of mine.
Obviously, I imagine you may wish to use a different image than this, should you know of a more suitable one.
2.25 litre 4 cylinders
OHV petrol engine

Short wheel-base (88")
Purchased in 1990.
Shown here with its "pick-up"-type (removable) cab.
I also own the original (removable) "full tilt" top – with sliding side-windows – in antelope, the original colour.


I look forward to hearing from you.
With kindest regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 15:56, 29 January 2012 (UTC)


How is this?
Code Result
{{User:Ahunt/LandRover}}
This user is a Land Rover owner.
Usage
- Ahunt (talk) 19:48, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Perfect! Thank you very much. I had not thought that you would have done it today, and, what's more, three hours ago. I am very pleased.
With best wishes,
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Glad you like that! They are quick to do!
- Ahunt (talk) 16:37, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

{{helpme}}[edit]

I have removed the general help request from the User talk:Accusativen hos Olsson. To reach another editor, simply post a comment on their talk page. The {{helpme}} template flags the entire community to your question. If you need help or assistance, please feel free to contact me directly. Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 10:47, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice... I am still learning... and need all the help that is offered to me. I shall leave the user a message now.
You are up late... it's three o' clock in the morning where you are. Eleven o'clock here.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:04, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Yes, I have the world's worst sleeping disorder, so nothing is normal about me. LOL That said, I think I'm heading to bed. Seriously though, don't hesitate to contact me anytime. Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 11:19, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Hope you do sleep. Thank you for the offer.

I just wondered about how you composed this section heading:- What does "tl(pipe)" mean? Kindest wishes, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:00, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Well, I'm up again. Couldn't sleep. The "tl" stands for "template". Templates are presented between brackets. If we don't place the "tl" separated by a pipe, then the template will actually show up in its entirety, rather than simply showing up as a link. It's a basic cheat code. At least that's what I call it. A "cheat code". Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 12:52, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
You really are Sleepless in Seatle. Thank you again for the explanation, and I hope your computer lets you rest! I know what you mean regarding the difficulty in resisting the urge to carry out just one more task... All the best, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:42, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Section retitled Cwm Rhondda[edit]

Bread of heaven I enjoyed your collection of flags at the top of this page.

I know (the English version of) the hymn that includes the line "bread of heaven". In fact, it is right up at the top of my favorites. But please tell me what is the specific connection between Welsh rugby and "bread of heaven".

Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 22:35, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Cwm Rhondda is a very well known Welsh hymn tune. First performed in 1907. Cwm Rhondda translates as "the Rondda Valley" in English, and more often than not, sung to the words: Guide me, O thou great Redeemer. Wales rugby union supporters adopted it years ago, although the reason is not understood, apart from the fact that it is an inspiring song which everyone knew (Sundays in chapel) and could keep repeating, and repeating... I think it splendid.
It was sung at the funerals of both Princess Diana and the Queen Mother, and at the wedding of Prince William and Catherine Middleton.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:25, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
It is indeed splendid, both tune and words. The version I learned (in the United Church of Canada) began Guide me, O thou great Jehovah.
The part of the story I did not know was its adoption by the Rugby union. A great anthem, known to everyone in Wales. I guess it is a natural. Wanderer57 (talk) 03:37, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
In the Welsh version the line is simply "Hollalluog, Hollalluog" - which translates as "almighty" or (allowing it to scan correctly) "O Almighty! O Almighty!"" - see Cwm Rhondda. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:41, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Gareth, I think I've confused you into thinking I know something about Wales ... I'm just supporting MonmouthpediA for Wikimedia UK. I can't claim any expertise - Suggest you ask your question on the talk page of Monmouthpedia or Wikiproject Wales. Do come back at me if Ive misunderstood. Victuallers (talk) 16:16, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
...or here (where many interested editors can read it), or on the article talk page. Adding the same request to lots of editors' talk pages is a bit ... unconventional? Personally, the fact that I happen to live in Wales doesn't make me an expert on - or especially interested in - Welsh hymns. Sorry. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:25, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Here's an essay on the hymn. But not sure it actually explains anything! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:56, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
The singing of Hymns at rugby matches in Wales is almost as old as the sport in Wales itself. One of the best documented matches in 'early' rugby history is the 1905 classic between Wales and New Zealand. Before the match the crowds were entertained by a brass band, I'm assuming military as they played marches. Before kick off the crowds sung 'Boys of the Old Brigade', 'Ton-y-botel' and 'Lead Kindly Light'. The game is best remembered though for the first ever singing of a national anthem before a sporting event when the crowd sung 'Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau' along with Teddy Morgan. As early as the 1970s there was a public bemoaning of the hymn singing traditions at national matches, replaced with the songs of Max Boyce and howls of 'Waaay-uls'. Personally I think that the song was adopted along with many others, but being in English, memorable and catchy, it stuck. If you want a reference that acknowledges it is seen as a Welsh rugby anthem you could use this here. Otherwise I will think you will find it difficult to find a verifiable reference to why Cwm Rhondda has been embraced. FruitMonkey (talk) 21:03, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Did some work on the article but don't know much about the rugby connection. I think it's just coincidental - a particularly rousing song suitable for crowd participation. Deb (talk) 12:12, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Unlike Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau. I assume it has always been sung in English at international matches? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Ah yes, that might have something to do with it. Deb (talk) 12:43, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you all for the information. I have a much better understanding now. Wanderer57 (talk) 18:09, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

The words are by William Williams, Pantycelyn 1717-1791 originally as "Arglwydd Arwain Trwy'r Anialwch" it was translated from the Welsh by Peter Williams 1723 - 1796. The tune is by John Hughes, 1873-1932 — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlwynapHuw (talkcontribs) 06:10, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

... good advice given in the edit summary...[edit]

A color photograph of a northern mockingbird
Harper Lee used the mockingbird to symbolize innocence in the novel.

Thank you for your good advice given in the edit summary when you were reverting my edit in the article on the novel, To Kill a Mockingbird earlier this morning.

With best wishes from Wales, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:23, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

In nearly six years and 26,000 edits I've made to Wikipedia, you are the first editor to thank me for anything related to reverting their edit. I don't quite know what to say, other than you have a superhuman Grace--which shows even in this small instance. Have a fabulous day and enjoy Wales. --Moni3 (talk) 12:41, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you again. You are an inspiration. With kindest regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 13:19, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Ok, "inspiration" may be a bit over the top. I know a handful of Wikipedians who no doubt spewed their beverages on their monitors reading that I may be inspirational. Happy editing nonetheless. --Moni3 (talk) 17:45, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Ha! ha!
We have just had our first Spring-like day here. Yet, we witnessed our first snow this winter as late as the end of the first week of this month. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:54, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
No spewed bevs here. Moni both needs and deserves some good ole-fashioned butt-kissing from time to time. Come to think of it, so do I. ;) Yes, Monidear, you are inspirational, and people whose opinion mean anything at all agree. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 21:18, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
OK, Moni and Christine, consider your butts officially kissed, ole-fashionedly. And, what the hell, you too Gareth! I would have used a wiki-love thingy to do this, but couldn't find a decent image. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:58, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm sure there are plenty of relevant illustrations on Commons... although you may need to have your eyeballs bleached after you spend some time looking around for them. MastCell Talk 22:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
What have I started? Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
My favorite wiki-love images are either of chocolate chip cookies or fruit salad. Both are yummy-yummy! ;) Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 00:25, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

...(minor) correction[edit]

Sorry, but I do not know your intention. Please elucidate. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 20:55, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

The placement of the comment was what I intended. Directly under yours, not indented after yours. I wasn't necessarily responding to you. Although it doesn't really matter much anyway. So...I'm going to go find five more minutes to add to my life to replace the ones I just spent on this. No worries. Carry on. --Moni3 (talk) 20:59, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
I am pleased to understand. Still a "new boy", still so much to learn. Thank you for taking the trouble to explain. Yet another Wikipedia technique that I realise, now, I had noticed before today, but had not appreciated had any significance. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

RE: Wales: Map[edit]

Hello Alphathon,

You certainly have my approval. In my opinion it is excellent. I just hope that the majority of my compatriots will think so too. Kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 00:24, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad you approve. Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 00:33, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Quick response... you were up late like me. I had been celebrating Wales beating the old enemy and winning the Triple Crown. Let's hope Scotland has success today in Murrayfield.
I wonder if I could ask you to make me a somewhat similar map, but featuring South Wales/the traditional county of Monmouthshire/Castleton Castleton is a small village/hamlet midway between Cardiff and Newport. My User page lead would explain my interest. Would it be too much trouble? Only do it if it isn't. Best wishes, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that shouldn't be too much trouble at all and I'm more than happy to do it. There are a few things I'd like to clarify though:
  1. When you say a similar map, do you mean a map showing South Wales/the traditional county of Monmouthshire/Castleton within the UK?
  2. What do you mean by South Wales (the Wikipedia article gives various definitions - which do you mean)?
  3. Do you want one map or three (i.e. all of those things together or one for each of them)?
Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 16:23, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. To try to explain:
  1. Partly "Yes" to that question, but, comparing it with your Wales map, Europe would be replaced by South Wales as the largest, background map, so that in turn Monmouthshire would be replacing the British Isles as the middle map, which would then be enlarged to form the third map, highlighting Castleton, Newport.
  1. To give you enough room, I suggest it might be best to not take South Wales too literally, but to draw a line West-East through Wrexham or thereabouts and regard all Wales south of that line as your largest map.
  1. All things together as your new Wales map.
Kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:03, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia mark-up dating: non-breaking space[edit]

  • Whilst editing, I have noticed that in some articles the dates are formatted as follows: ... on_26_Aprilampersandnbsp;1997_ at... which produces this: on 26 April 1997 at... What is the advantage? Can somebody help me please? Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:10, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
That's a non-breaking space. It tells the browser to avoid laying out the text like this...
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 26 April
1997 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
...with the month on one line and the year on the next. The theory is that this could make the text harder to read, but I haven't seen many dates formatted with non-breaking spaces. The style guideline is at WP:NBSP. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:10, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Thank you John of Reading for your prompt and succinct reply. I have been searching Wikipedia for an explanation for what seems like hours. I suppose you would only use the non-breaking space after noticing its need on Show Preview before saving your edit. Kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:43, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

"nowrap" template[edit]

I believe the {{nowrap}} template might be better in this case since the non-breaking space would require a space between the parts of her last name, which is what's wrapping onto a new line. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:54, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Okay. The nowrap template should work, but the instructions are unclear on one point: would I be able to put the template at the beginning of the page and include a list of names there, or would each name require its own template. Keep in mind that the names are already nested within table template, and may (later) be nested within a collapse template. In other words, where would I use the template? Actually, the "non-breaking space" sounds intriguing, is that a character that looks like a space, but acts like a regular character? ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 07:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
The non-breaking space is normally used when a date... 7 April 2012 ... is prevented from splitting into two lines of text. The style guideline is at WP:NBSP.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:16, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

The Triple Crown ... on points-difference[edit]

Unlike the Grand Slam, the Triple Crown winners will not necessarily be the tournament winners, since France or Italy–or even another of the home nations– could outperform them on points-difference within the Six Nations Championship. This first occurred in the 1977 Five Nations Championship, when Wales won the Triple Crown by defeating the other three British Isles teams, while France won the Championship by completing the Grand Slam over all four of the British Isles teams. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 9:06, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Not necessarily on points-difference even, it could be outright, couldnt it? If England took the Triple Crown but lost to both France and Italy, while Wales won all their matches except the one against England, then Wales would be above England in the table regardless of points-difference.--Victor Yus (talk) 09:24, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, results of matches will always take precedence over numbers of points won or leaked in determining the Championship winner.
I am sure you don't need to ask who I support. What about yourself? Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:06, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm of mixed ancestry so I can take my pick, but I admit I always find a Welsh victory particularly rousing. Perhaps because the brilliant performances of G. Edwards & co. are among my earliest sporting memories... Victor Yus (talk) 10:51, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
We are clearly of the same generation. The coming weekends should be great. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:03, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Grand Slam tours[edit]

There is an article called Grand Slam tours. Do we need to duplicate the information in this one?--Victor Yus (talk) 08:33, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, Grand Slam tours should be merged into this article and then deleted. It is confusing having both. I agree with your earlier comments too, esp. the hidden part. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:18, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Good idea. I made a note on the talk page of the tours article.--Victor Yus (talk) 12:37, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Excellent. I have registered my support there. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 13:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

checkY Well done. You have done a splendid job. What a task! Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :) Now we can sit back and hope there'll be another round of updating to Grand Slam come Saturday... --Victor Yus (talk) 08:43, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

The Triple Crown and now, Grand Slam[edit]

Hello Victor!

You have been busy this morning on The Triple Crown article. Well done! It is altogether a much better article now. Been good working together on this.

Kindest regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 13:00, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :) Perhaps we should move on to Grand Slam now? Who knows, maybe Wales will manage to do so too... Victor Yus (talk) 17:51, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm game.
It is looking promising, isn't it? ...2005, 2008, 20... I daren't type it.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:16, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Go on, you can now :) Great performance yesterday by the Welsh, kept their heads, fine to watch! --Victor Yus (talk) 18:48, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
...2012
Weren't they great... I am so proud. It was good to watch, and France's best performance of the tournement. All the best, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:52, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Triple Crown 2012 in Six nations article[edit]

Hi, saw the entry, the delete and the revert. I don't think it's vandalism - he should have explained but in my opinion he has a point. There's already an article on the triple crown that includes the fact that Wales have won it this year. I don't see the value in adding the 2012 winner here - the article is about the 6 nations.Regards Ytic nam (talk) 13:35, 12 March 2012 (UTC) Ytic nam (talk) 13:35, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay, p'haps not vandalism, but I think it belongs there. It is a part of the whole, after all. Kind wishes, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 14:58, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
I'd prefer "the current holder of the Triple Crown". Why state the 2012 winners and not the 2011, 2010 etc. winners? Just a thought, but I think it makes it more encyclopedic and less "newsy".Ytic nam (talk) 16:21, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Grand Union Canal[edit]

Thanks for the note. I knew this one because I have made the same mistake! --Old Moonraker (talk) 16:06, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for this. Good of you to take the trouble. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:23, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Hwyl![edit]

Hi. Good win at the weekend, wasn't it? Deb (talk) 20:44, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

It certainly was... in spite of the ref.! I've been watching [scrum v], courtesy of BBC i-player via cable (it is not available live here) and listening to the panel agreeing with what I had thought during the match: he was determined to penalise the attacking team – only one – Wales, whenever possible. I still enjoyed it enormously. Saturday will be great against France. It was kind of you to make contact. Diolch yn fawr, Deb. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 21:24, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

For your message about the films based on books project. I've been elsewhere online for some time but would like to get back into working on the project, so stay tuned for possible activity. Thanks for signing up! Pegship (talk) 19:38, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

A470(T) road[edit]

Hello again,

I am wondering whether you would be not too busy to make a straightforward map showing the total route of the A470. We are anxious to improve this article within the WikiProject Wales programme. The A470 is a major long-distance connective spine road in Wales, running from Cardiff on the south coast to Llandudno on the north coast. It covers 186 miles (299 km) in its entirety, over a zig-zagging route through the country's mountainous central region, including the Brecon Beacons and much of Snowdonia National Park. Really just a relief map of Wales showing the route that could be inserted into the Info' box. With regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 21:53, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for replying so promptly. There is no reason for a relief map... it was just my idea... and an outline map of Wales would be fine. To facilitate the job, you choose whichever is best for you. I realise the Castleton map must be a challenge, and please fit it in whenever you are inclined. Kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:06, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Would this suit?
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:08, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that one is far more suitable... and easier on the eye!
Green on green... ouch! ...it would have to have been red, and I determined yesterday morning that the road has been designated as a (T), so red would have been totally wrong. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 15:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
checkY Perfect! Excellent job. You did it so quickly. Was it difficult? Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:37, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
I am glad to know that. You've been very kind. Thank you, again, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 20:35, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

A470(T) road[edit]

I can indeed, although I'm not sure where I'll get the data from for it (I'm sure I can find something… if all else fails there's always Google maps). Oh, and don't think I've forgotten about the Castleton map, I just haven't had a lot of time to do it (it's quite an intricate map and I need good historical maps to work off to get it right, which complicates the process). Honestly though, unless a relief map already exists a blank or political map would be far easier than a relief - vector graphics don't lend themselves particularly well to that sort of thing. Is there any particular reason for it being a relief? Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 01:28, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

That'd do fine, although Wales location map.svg would probably be more suitable; the road will be drawn in green (being an A road), and green-on-green isn't exactly ideal (plus the borders etc on this one are finer, so are less distracting). Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 14:27, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
How's this?:
A470(T)
Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 19:02, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Not especially difficult no; maybe took about 5-10 minutes. Since the map was already there, is was basically just a case of drawing the line on top of it to represent the road. Since it is a road, there's no worrying about it joining properly with adjacent shapes (as is the case with country outlines etc), so as long as one is familiar with the software it's actually easier than it would have been to do it free-hand. Anyway, glad to be of service . Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 19:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

A470 map[edit]

Hello, You have requested a map for the A470 article today on the Discussion page. Any ideas how such a long route may be shown, other than on a map of pretty well the whole of Wales? Regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:20, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I was broadly thinking of a map of Wales with the route marked on it. A north–south route is never going to have a map that's too tall for an infobox, unless it were running the length of a continent :o) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 17:06, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
I read that you are Welsh. Do you have a particular interest in this "trans-continental highway"? Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:13, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
:o) More that it came up in the 2012 United Kingdom budget and I wasn't sure where it is. (Fy nain a taid lived in Aberystwyth, so I know the A47 but not the A470.) It just seemed odd there was no map with a nice red line on it. :o) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 08:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Well, I hope the money will be put to good effect... any indication of what is planned? The A470 is one of those roads that cry out to be driven from start to finish. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:57, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
It was in the technology section:
Will extend mobile coverage to 60,000 rural homes and along at least 10 key roads by 2015, including the A2 and A29 in Northern Ireland, the A57, A143, A169, A352, A360 and A591 in England, the A82(T) in Scotland and the A470(T) in Wales, subject to planning permission, using the £150m investment announced at Autumn Statement 2011. — Budget 2012: Technology section from Treasury Budget Report, BBC News Online, 21 March 2012
So not road-specific, but good news nonetheless. I've never been along the road, but the route (from what I can gather without a map ;o) sounds stunning. I'll have to find someone to drive me along it sometime :o) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 09:06, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
I got the hint about the missing map... see what we can come up with!
"We are working on it", as the saying goes. Had not realised before that it is styled as a (T). I'll let you know. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:26, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
I know, I know. Sorry, was only teasing :o) Yeah, apparently it's considered a trunk road. Who knew? :o) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 09:49, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

checkY Done! ...have a look! Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 21:39, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Perfect; that's awesome and exactly what I had in mind. Thank you! — OwenBlacker (Talk) 21:44, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm glad you like it... rather pleased with it, myself. I think it is in the correct position on the left. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 21:49, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
As you should be; it's precisely what I had in mind :o) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 22:05, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
I have never been able to resist welshcakes. I still have my mother's cast iron bakestone (maen). Mustn't be too sweet, though. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

A470(T)[edit]

I can indeed, although I'm not sure where I'll get the data from for it (I'm sure I can find something… if all else fails there's always Google maps). Oh, and don't think I've forgotten about the Castleton map, I just haven't had a lot of time to do it (it's quite an intricate map and I need good historical maps to work off to get it right, which complicates the process). Honestly though, unless a relief map already exists a blank or political map would be far easier than a relief - vector graphics don't lend themselves particularly well to that sort of thing. Is there any particular reason for it being a relief? Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 01:28, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

That'd do fine, although Wales location map.svg would probably be more suitable; the road will be drawn in green (being an A road), and green-on-green isn't exactly ideal (plus the borders etc on this one are finer, so are less distracting). Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 14:27, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
How's this?:
A470(T)
Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 19:02, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Not especially difficult no; maybe took about 5-10 minutes. Since the map was already there, is was basically just a case of drawing the line on top of it to represent the road. Since it is a road, there's no worrying about it joining properly with adjacent shapes (as is the case with country outlines etc), so as long as one is familiar with the software it's actually easier than it would have been to do it free-hand. Anyway, glad to be of service . Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 19:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Cacen gri i ti[edit]

Cacen gri
Diolch yn fawr for creating the A470 map; it's very much appreciated. And who wouldn't like some nice cacen gri and a panad? — OwenBlacker (Talk) 22:04, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
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Strange rugby edits[edit]

Hi! Take a look at what this person's been doing to some of the Five Nations articles. Is he making corrections, or is he just randomly messing with the figures? I left a note on his talk page, but as it's just an IP address, I don't expect much response. If he's messing, we ought to revert the changes.--Victor Yus (talk) 15:28, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

This is irregular behaviour and without any edit summaries, and no response to your posting, I think he is messing with the statistics. Even reverting so many is a time-consuming job. I checked on the anon's location – it is Sheffield. I shall leave him a note too. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:11, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Victor, I see that he has left (at 16:47 hrs) an unsigned comment. I have just posted this on his page:
Your recent (today) contributions to Wikipedia are being discussed.
Before saving your edit to any article, please provide an edit summary. So far you have not done so on any edit. Doing so helps everyone understand the intention of your edit, and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism. It is also helpful to other users reading the edit history of the page. In view of that, together with your unsigned posting above, you are advised that your edits are regarded as vandalism and will be reverted. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:29, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
What do you want to do now?
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:40, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
He says he's editing according to a source, so we should look into it to see which set of results is correct. I'll try to take a look when I get time. Or maybe we should ask other rugby project members to consider - someone must have a reliable list of results at their fingertips, I'd have thought.--Victor Yus (talk) 07:26, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Turns out the source at http://www.rugbyfootballhistory.com/6nations.htm contradicts itself; for example, for 1947, it lists England and Wales as the champions in the list of champions by year, but in the league table for 1947 (much further down the page) it puts Ireland top. I'd tend to believe the first list, though, as it agrees with the individual match results as listed in the Wikipedia article, which I assume someone got from some other reliable source. --Victor Yus (talk) 18:53, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
I have looked at his source too. I always feel mistrustful when the editor is an anon. He stopped after your posting and hasn't returned today. Shall we carry out reversions or leave it a day or two? Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 21:00, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
I think his edits should be reverted. He was no doubt acting in good faith, but as far as we can tell his source is not reliable.--Victor Yus (talk) 07:27, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

checkY All reverted! Do you think: (a) he had finished when you spotted him? (b) you interrupted him, and may return, different IP? (c) being an anon, he has even looked at his talk page since his one reply to you? Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:44, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Good work! My guess would be he's not out to make trouble, he was just misled by the tables in the source, and probably won't be carrying on, but let's keep an eye out.--Victor Yus (talk) 11:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Spring has sprung! Cherry blossom

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Original Barnstar
In recognition of your many fine edits to a variety of articles, from popular culture to British geography and beyond. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 20:54, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Mr. Griffith-Jones. Just for context, I work at the Wikimedia Foundation, but I've been an English Wikipedian for much longer. The reason I wanted to make sure your edits were recognized with a barnstar is because we recently started looking at a list of people who'd made their 1,000th edit to articles, and your name was at the top of the list this week (April 5th, UTC time to be exact). Thanks again for contributing to the encyclopedia. Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 20:58, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

What a splendid way to begin Good Friday!

I am delighted with your recognition of my editing Wikipedia over the past seven months.

Thank you,

Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 07:53, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

So glad you like it! Happy Good Friday indeed, Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 17:30, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Citation[edit]

  • I cannot make the following reference appear properly in the References section of the article ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118275/Kony-2012-video-director-Jason-Russell-suffering-reactive-psychosis.html
<ref>{{cite news |http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118275/Kony-2012-video-director-Jason-Russell-suffering-reactive-psychosis.html |date=April 8, 2012 |accessdate=April 8, 2012}}</ref>
    • Fixed. You forgot to add the url parameter.--GoPTCN 19:09, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
      • ... and I've added title and publisher parameters. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:18, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118275/Kony-2012-video-director-Jason-Russell-suffering-reactive-psychosis.html |title=Wife of Kony video director filmed running naked through streets says he was suffering from 'reactive psychosis' due to stress and exhaustion|publisher=Daily Mail|date=April 8, 2012 |accessdate=April 8, 2012}}</ref>

Hello David, Once again you have come to my rescue with amazing speed. Thank you very much. Kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:38, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Good evening GreatOrangePumkin, Thank you very much for your amazingly fast response to my citing problem earlier this evening. With kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:28, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Url 'n' link[edit]

Thanks for visiting the Teahouse![edit]

Hi! Gareth Griffith-Jones, thanks for visiting the Teahouse! As an experienced editor, your knowledge is very valuable to new editors. Teahouse Hosts help new editors at the Teahouse and beyond. If you'd like to get involved in assisting new editors at the Teahouse, please learn more here Sarah (talk) 19:56, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Auto Wiki Browser user permission granted April 12, 2012[edit]

(Non-administrator comment) - User has over 1000 edits in the Article Namespace

Hello Graeme,

Thank you for granting me permission to use the Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser this morning.

Kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:03, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure![edit]

Hello Tokyo Girl,

Thank you for the info' given just now re- the discussion going on. After a stormy introduction to each other, I would like to believe that we may now be friends. How about you? Cheers, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:30, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

  • Hey, no problem - I absolutely have no problem with becoming friends here on Wikipedia! After all, I saw in your edit history that you've worked on the James Rollins articles and hey, anyone who is a fan of Rollins has got to have some pretty good taste! Tokyogirl79 (talk) 03:42, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Well done! Seen the result on the Charles Brokaw redirect. It was what you wanted, wasn't it? Knew we had some things in common. I have read all the Sigma Force novels in chronological order and looking forward to the next. Devil Colony did not get published here till early 2012. Also read more than half of the "stand- alone" books, eespecially liked Amazonia and Ice Hunt. How about you? Best wishes, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:13, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
  • I have to say that Amazonia is one of my favorites as well! There's just something about ruins in the middle of a jungle that's so exciting! I'm also a big fan of Scott Sigler (most of his books are free in their podcast formats), Douglas Preston & Lincoln Child, and Andy McDermott. I'm pretty much of the persuasion that as long as a book contains historical mysteries and people shooting at each other, I'm probably going to like it. XD Tokyogirl79 (talk) 03:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I was glad to receive your list of authors the other day. Always good to have some recommendations. Here's one for you that I have just discovered. I am currently reading the 2010 novel, THE DEATH INSTINCT by JED RUBENFELD. Very good style, excellent English, gripping story. I shall certainly try to get hold of his first novel. He is an American lawyer/author and lives in New Haven, Connecticut. This is his second book. His first, called "The Interpretation of Murder" held the number 1 slot in the Sunday Times chart for seven weeks. They are published here in the UK by HEADLINE REVIEW, which is an Hatchette UK Company. Kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Hidden message ... found![edit]

Hello Gareth. I hope you are well. I was wondering, have you found this yet: Wikipedia:WikiSpeak? Very useful. I find the illustrations particularly amusing. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:47, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello Martin!
Brilliant ... thank you very much for leading me to it. The illustrations are rib-crackingly funny, and I believe you may have used some, haven't you? I did recognise two or three. I am sure there is a considerable amount of fun to be had, although I still remember your angry "Mrs."
Good to hear from you! All the best, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
I too was amazed by the resemblance. But I think that may be her younger, better-tempered sister. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Something to chill[edit]

Cool Lassi for you
For your first Vandal Fighting experience with STiki, keep it cool and be careful, you have cleaned some Vandalism, thanks and keep contributing, cheers Ðℬig XЯaɣ 17:58, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Spinning dancer[edit]

Left foot on ground
right foot on ground
This is a great way to visualize her turning in both direction at once – just put a letter on the leg on the floor!

The illusion derives from the lack of visual cues for depth. For instance, as the dancer's arms move from viewer's left to right, it is possible to view her arms passing between her body and the viewer (that is, in the foreground of the picture, in which case she would be circling counter-clockwise on her right foot) and it is also possible to view her arms as passing behind the dancer's body (that is, in the background of the picture, in which case she is seen circling clockwise on her left foot).

When she is facing to the left or to the right, her breasts and ponytail clearly define the direction she is facing, although there is ambiguity in which leg is which. However, as she moves away from facing to the left (or from facing to the right), the dancer can be seen (by different viewers, not by a single individual) facing in either of two directions. At first, these two directions are fairly close to each other (both left, say, but one facing slightly forward, the other facing slightly backward) but they become further and further away from each other until we reach a position where her ponytail and breasts are in line with the viewer (so that neither her breasts nor her ponytail are seen so readily). In this position, she could be facing either away from the viewer or towards the viewer, so that the two positions, two different viewers could see, are 180 degrees apart. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk)

One interesting thing about this illusion is the shadow of a foot passing right-to-left at the very bottom of the frame. Based on the shadow's movement, it can only be coming from the dancer's right foot. Therefore, based on this visual clue only, the dancer must be spinning on her left foot. Strangely though, even with this in mind, it is still possible to visualize the dancer spinning the opposite way, on her right foot, admittedly aided by the addition of the "R" in this case. Just thought I'd point this out. --RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me 02:13, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
That is very observant of you. You are of course, correct, especially in the latter part. Thank you for that. Just as a point of interest – I am curious, and pleased – how did you come to find my talk page? Cheers, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:13, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Once one notices the small foot shadow, either conciously or subconciously, your mind interprets a light source originating from behind the dancer. This also firmly establishes in your brain that the larger shadow of the other leg is also being caused by the same light source. This is why it is very difficult for some people to see the dancer rotating the other direction, if there are no other clues (although it is still possible). The inclusion of the letters, the R in the lower frame, and the way it disappears as if being eclipsed by a leg, is a very strong visual clue which overrides the brains interpretation of the light source.
To answer your question. Commented at DBigXray's talk page a while back and left it on my watchlist. --RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me 12:21, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for that. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 00:14, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

The Godfather[edit]

In a recent edit – to the page, The Godfather – you changed one or more words from one national variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Wikipedia articles.

For a subject exclusively related to the United Kingdom (for example, a famous British person), use British English. For something related to the United States in the same way, use American English. For something related to another English-speaking country, such as Canada, Australia, or New Zealand, use the variety of English used there. For an international topic, use the form of English that the original author used.

In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to another, even if you don't normally use the version in which the article is written. Respect other people's versions of English. They, in turn, should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Wikipedia articles are written can be found in the Manual of Style. If you have any questions about this, you can ask me on my talk page or visit the help desk. Thank you. Terence7 (talk) 17:02, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello Terence7,
Point taken, understood, and accepted... to be frank, I appreciate your advice and promise to adhere to the above criteria. As a Welshman who loves well-written and well-spoken English, I have to confess to preferring British English spelling. But, having said that, I read many novels by U.S. authors and achieve enormous enjoyment from the majority that I choose.
I know nothing about you, and would like a brief note confirming that there are no bad feelings. With kind regards,
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:15, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
No bad feelings at all. Thanks for your note. As you might guess this is a recurring issue on Wikipedia. (The message I posted was actually just a standard template: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-lang )
Happy editing. Terence7 (talk) 18:30, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for that. I'm still a new boy, and frankly, at the age I am, (70 next Spring) I need all the help I can get with the formatting. With best wishes,
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:37, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

The Godfather ... again![edit]

Hello RepublicanJacobite,

Please take a look at The Godfather. You probably do not want to get involved, I know. Some stranger has made close on 200 edits over the past two days uninterrupted. I have just e-mailed MarnetteD. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:45, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up! I will take a look. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 16:47, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your fast response. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your email. I have to admit that my eyes kinda glazed over after checking a few of the edits and I just let things go. You might post a thread at the filmproject talk page to get more eyes on the situation. You could also go to the editor and ask him/her to at least use edit summaries to explain what they are doing. The next couple of days are going to be a little hectic offwiki but I will try to take a closer look, I am glad that you also contacted RJ. He will do a good job checking things. Cheers and have a good week. MarnetteD | Talk 17:05, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

I have just taken your advice and posted this on both project sites:

Urgent! The Godfather ... again!

Take a look at The Godfather. A new editor has made close on 200 uninterrupted edits over the past two days, and is still doing so. No edit summaries. Thank you. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Is there a discernable problem with his edits, or are you just objecting to him not supplying edit summaries? Ultimately edit summaries are a courtesy not a requirement, so as a Project we cannot really address that. As for the edits themselves, well if there is an actual problem with them then just revert him. Betty Logan (talk) 23:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
It is difficult to determine whether there is a discernible problem when there are so many edits in a row, and no edit summaries to explain what he is doing. Yes, edit summaries are a courtesy, but they are especially important if one is going to make wholesale changes to an article. Gareth's intention in bringing this matter here is to get other film project editors to take a look at the edits and see if they pass muster. I think that is an appropriate step. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 04:47, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
I have to admit that I had the same initial response as MarnetteD, the eyes glaze over looking at so many continuous edits. On first glance, there does not seem to be anything obviously or substantively wrong with his edits and additions. It is more a matter of his making so many edits in a row, with no edit summaries, and without discussion, that it is very difficult to follow what he is, which is precisely why edit summaries would help. A centralized discussion, either on the article talk page, or at the film project, could be helpful, especially if the editor in question is aware and takes part in said discussion. Thanks for keeping your eyes on it, Gareth. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 04:39, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Re- your postings earlier today on the WikiProject – both subjects – excellent!
Regarding this new editor, I have followed your advice and posted a warning on his/her talk page, and opened a new section on the Godfather Discussion page.
Thank you very much for all your input. Best regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:53, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Just wanted to stop by and say it looks like positive steps have been taken in this situation even by the new editor. So thanks again for your vigilance and for going to the community to get input. Also congrats on Wales performing the Grand Slam in the recent Six Nations tourney. Here in the US BBC America carries a few games - though I would like to see more - and it was exciting to see your team perform so well. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 21:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello!
Thank you for your good advice, and thank you very much for your charming message this evening.
With kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:11, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Just to let you know, Wrath X is still busy editing The Godfather – after a brief respite – and is catching you up fast. You have 178 recorded and he has 155 (not counting 48 on The Godfather II) but he/she is leaving Edit Summaries every time, thanks to you. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:53, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I think it was a group effort, and I am always glad to see new and experienced editors working together. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 13:29, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Sonny's death[edit]

I don't remember the facts on one aspect and thought you might. My memory was that the phone call to Sonny that lured him to the toll booth was not about a real attack on Connie, but was just a device to play on his Achilles' heel. Am I wrong? Thanks. --Ring Cinema (talk) 12:55, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello!
I have the three films, so although I suspect I can answer your question accurately, I shall watch it this afternoon after my lunch (which is on the table!) and get back to you later today. It is 14:36 hrs. British Summer Time in the old UK, and I have just come in late from walking with my dog...
Best wishes, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 13:36, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
That was great! Will now rewatch "II" & "III" for the countless time.
Okay, the sequence of events:
  • Heavily pregnant Connie answers the phone to a female who says, "Tell Carlo, I can't see him tonight."
  • She tells him that his dinner is ready. He says that he doesn't want it.
  • Fearsome row ensues ... Connie smashes crockery ... he gives her a dreadful beating.
  • Carlo leaves. Connie telephones. Sonny, wild with temper, races off alone ...
  • Must be a setup: Ambush waiting at the toll booth.
All the best,
Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:47, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thanks, but I'm not clear on one thing: how do you know it's a setup? I thought that they were trying to lure him out to the toll booth, but what was the actual plan? Did Carlo beat her for the purpose of getting him to come to her aid? That seems like a dubious plan. Thanks. (And feel free to answer here -- I monitor your talk page changes. --Ring Cinema (talk) 18:04, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Only reason I think that it was pre-planned, is how else would they be expecting Sonny to drive through the toll booth at that particular time. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 20:10, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
I agree it was extreme. I suppose the phone call was the setup and the fight was worse than Carlo anticipated, but achieved the required result.
Since posting above, some anon has added an exec. prod., Robert Evans to the info' box. I shall delete it. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:05, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
How else would they have known? Okay, that is evidence they were listening in on a phone call. Or were told by Carlo that Connie called him (if he knew). So yes that is the key question. Or, what did Carlo do that betrayed Sonny? Same question in a different form. Thanks. --Ring Cinema (talk) 02:45, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
I also have the novel here, but a long time since I read it. See if that helps. Shall do that this morning. I agree with your analysis, and, in my opinion, was probably explained in the filming, but left on the editor's floor. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:17, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, the book is no help at all: Carlo does not leave their home. Is very drunk and sleeps. Then, after a few hours, Connie phones her parent's home intending to speak to Hagan or her mother, not wanting to speak to Santino. Her mother answers, but Sonny takes the phone from her.
So, the "only possible explanation" of how Barzini's men were already waiting at the toll booth – that he awoke and heard his wife's telephone call, is null and void. They did not have enough time to arrange the ambush. Furthermore, the war of the Five Families is regarded to be over at this point, so Sonny and Hagan were not anticipating a setup. Yet at the end of the novel, Michael tricks Carlo into telling him that he did inform Barzini ... over to you ... Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:32, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Point taken. Is this "narrative art"? Notice they separate the revelation that Carlo betrayed Sonny from the events. So at the moment I write it off to a little plot hole that they couldn't figure out how to close. Still, I'm thinking about it. --Ring Cinema (talk) 16:30, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure, it's fine. Thanks for asking. --Ring Cinema (talk) 17:17, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

The Godfather trilogy[edit]

I wanted to mention that, since you love watching the film so much, I believe you would enjoy Coppola's commentary, especially to the first film. He mentions so many interesting things about production. --Ring Cinema (talk) 17:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
You are correct. I do. My three are the 25th Anniversary Editions the wide-screen versions, on good old VHS video tapes. The commentaries are great.
Good to hear from you. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:01, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Film Award[edit]

The WikiProject Film Award
I, RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive, hereby award Gareth Griffith-Jones the WikiProject Film Award for his valued contributions to WikiProject Film. For your continued vigilance and improvement of The Godfather Trilogy articles.
Awarded 14:24, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Congratz JTBX (talk) 05:13, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

It's a wonderful life[edit]

Hello!

What a lovely surprise. Thank you so much! I am delighted.

We have had a wet and windy day here, and just watched the great James Stewart in the 1946 "It's a wonderful life". Then came up to check My watchlist to find your award and ... it really is a wonderful life!

Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:59, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome![edit]

It is well-deserved. Keep up the good work! ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 17:02, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

The Godfather Effect[edit]

I'm a little uncomfortable with so much emphasis given to one book and one aspect. Many people have said a lot of insightful things about this film, and the conclusion that ethnicities in America rediscovered themselves in the aftermath of this film seems to require some empirical support. Coppola saw the film as a general indictment of American culture (as it implies) and that is more easily supported. Since America has always had strong ethnic identification among its polity, it is somewhat more difficult to make the case that, say, Irish-Americans took The Godfather to heart and realized they felt a bit of the shamrock. When did they not? So, do we strike the right balance? I am undecided. --Ring Cinema (talk) 14:25, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I have been re-reading your posting for the second time and still not clear what you are after. When you write "...one book and one aspect" ... are you referring to all three film articles, or just The Godfather article? Explain, please. On the other hand, I would like to contribute, but not sure that this Welshman has the qualifications to dare venture into an American ethnicity issue like this. Can you comment please. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:30, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
The section so entitled refers primarily to one book on the subject. So, just on general principles, I question that much emphasis, given the size and scope of the subject, on one book. There are many things written about this movie. That's what I am thinking about. That, and a lack of skepticism about the book's claims. --Ring Cinema (talk) 08:27, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I am with you now. I tend to agree with your argument. I must check out the history appertaining to this section. In my mind right now, if asked, I would say that it was born out of some of the Wrath X-187-no-edit summaries-débâcle of April 1 to April 2. I shall check that out today. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:27, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
As promised, I have done the investigation. Apologies to friend Wrath X, he only altered the size of the image. No, it was someone known as Nelsondenis248, who created the section based on a small amount of existing copy within the article, on March 2 this year. Is this person known to you? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:39, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
No, I don't know who it is, but I don't know many editors. --Ring Cinema (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Umm ... is it worthy of retaining ... not in my opinion as a section. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:04, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

This section, dealing entirely with a third-party book and its contents, appears in all three film articles, and appears to be, for lack of a better term, bookspam. Im sure there have been other books on the subject, and none of these deserve a full section treatment in these articles. -Stevertigo (t | c) 01:06, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

I totally agree with you, [[User:Stevertigo|Stevertigo], and this subject has already been broached before. Now, with additional support, I shall remove the section from all three articles and we can wait for a reaction.
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Good. Thanks. -Stevertigo (t | c) 22:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Don't be alarmed![edit]

  • Oh, I have just worked it out ... so it was an edit summary ... I don't know why either of you couldn't/wouldn't tell me that. Remember! The article is what matters, and it will continue to be a work in progress. You have done a sterling job, and deserve a big thank you. I am anxious that this does not get acrimonious ... there is far too much of that on Wikipedia. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 00:13, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey! Where's all the Godfather stuff gone? By the way my email had to be updated to so you better send what you had to send again, sorry! JTBX (talk) 21:58, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Don't be alarmed! It is all still on my page – up near the top – next to earlier Godfather material. Been deleting 'stuff' I don't want. Can't be bothered with archiving – who would bother to trawl through archives? Wanted to speed up access to my page. I had reached 324,759 bytes on April 19. Still more to discard, but def. no Godfather or Sopranos. Read El Dude's page earlier this evening (he helped me out earlier this year on The Sopranos, so he's on My Watchlist) Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:52, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't really use e-mail for communication, I'm afraid, unless it's business/organisation related, so I don't how that system works on here. But yes, I am going through to administrator resolution now. I have a copy of the draft saved in Word which I edit offline in case it's ever lost. JTBX (talk) 00:58, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
No, I understand that. It can be useful though if you want say something sensitive and not be seen by any person on Wikipedia. Don't be alarmed! – everything is still there in the history. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones. You have new messages at El duderino's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
  • Are you & Gareth really going to put up with more of User:RC's bullshit? He acts like he owns these film articles and edit wars to get his way. There is no exception in WP:3RR for consensus, remember that. I'm done trying to reason with him. If/when you file a report against him, please let me know so I can weigh in, to confirm his issues of WP:TE and WP:OWN. El duderino (abides) 05:44, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your support. Will liaise with JTBX, and get back to you. I don't know if you remember,but you came to my aid earlier this year regarding the info'box on The Sopranos for which I am grateful. Cheers, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 05:55, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
I have just posted on El_duderino's talk page (got a tb from him too) Cheers, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 06:01, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Alright guys, going to do it now, sorry for the late response. Going to just read through the policies now and go to resolution. JTBX (talk) 09:55, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, go to Elduderino's page, Ive replied there. JTBX (talk) 10:01, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones. You have new messages at El duderino's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
I see that JTBX has undertaken an effort to slander me behind my back. Sorry to drag you into it. The facts are that I'm working with both him and El Duderino and they don't accept that we have to meet halfway on some things. As you know, Gareth, I'm trying to improve the article. Although in the case of The Godfather I didn't accept all of JTBX's edits, I incorporated some and suggested areas where I agreed with him that we could make some improvements. That is normal editing. Not all proposals are accepted and editors have to communicate on these matters. Both of them seem to be saying that it's all or nothing. El Duderino's position is untenable. JTBX has good ideas and I have said so. So, again, thanks for your fine attitude and I'm sorry if you feel like you're in the middle. --Ring Cinema (talk) 14:56, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
I appreciate that. All along I have been anxious to avoid anything approaching an edit war and the intervention of others. I go back to the beginning of the month and the action I took then to prevent a wholesale takeover by Wrath X. Together, you Ring, and I, rescued the article, and soon after that, JTBX became involved, and we three worked really well together, as a team, for quite some time.
As I see it,
  • the breakdown in cooperation between the two of you began when the idea of another draft of the plot summary was aired. Because I could not find the origin of this alternative approach, this confused me as you both now know. I know now that it was an edit summary made by Ring and addressed to JTBX, and not posted on the discussion page of The Godfather.
  • we should continue to merge the two editions and make an attempt to revitalise the feeling of a group effort that was present until recently.
  • when that is achieved, I should like to think that we three can move on and edit II and III together.
After all, it is a work in progress. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 15:31, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I agree. As I've mentioned elsewhere, there is already agreement on some areas that deserve improvement on the plot summary. And I have incorporated as much of JTBX's suggestions, as well. To me, this is normal give and take. I will remain optimistic, and thank you again for your time. --Ring Cinema (talk) 15:40, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Gareth, he is just playing semantics again. Look through his entire history on his talk, one revert warning from an adminstrator after another. He says this but the fact is I incorporated the edits he wanted, such as "riddled with machine gun fire" etc, not the other way around. He just reverts. He will probably add some things from my plot now to appear as if to get along. Nonsense. JTBX (talk) 17:59, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Please believe me when I say that it is better to try to cooperate and discuss than it is to war with one another. Now that the air has been cleared, and everyone is talking, we will continue to discuss rather than edit and revert. We are a good team. We are passionate. That is good for the article, and the next, and the next. It is the only way. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 21:19, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the {tb} alerts, Gareth. But I'm through trying to discuss the issues with RC. He's a stubborn mule and only seems interested in getting his way and arguing about it. As soon as I attempted a compromise at No Country, (see my post which starts with "Fine..") he accuses me of changing the argument, terms, 'subject' whatever. His replies to me and others there are filled with condescension and I want no more part of it. El duderino (abides) 21:51, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

See, Dude, there was already a compromise in place between me and Star. Not that you have to accept it, of course, but don't accuse me of not wanting to compromise. --Ring Cinema (talk) 22:06, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Do you have any suggestion for The Godfather dispute?[edit]

This is now a 3RR complaint at WP:AN3#User:Ring Cinema reported by User:JTBX (Result: ). Do you have any suggestion for how to resolve this? Full protection? Perhaps an RfC? It does not seem that WP:3RR has been violated. The AN3 report is long and meandering and admins may not have the patience to read all of it. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 22:34, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

@ EdJohnston I had hoped we would not be in this position. I have tried to be both mediator and counsellor. I do not require "full protection" – both users are responsible editors whose only fault, if they have one (and I do not believe it a fault) is passion. I have only been involved with editing Wikipedia seriously since last September and my looking up the RfC page for the first time fills me with dread that this is just going to escalate into far too much.
Believe it or not – and this is also addressed to JTBX and Ring Cinema – I continue to expect this episode to be resolved in the manner I describe above, and we will work together in the future. That is unlikely if any one party is intransigent.
Therefore, I would recommend a voluntary absence of 14 days, to cool down, and I will hold the fort as caretaker and maybe do a little merging where I feel it will not provoke either editor when they return. They should leave the article and talk page alone, out of sight, in my opinion.
I hope this helps. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:46, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
@ JTBX
  • I have put all my Godfather sections together in date order here.
  • Please have a look!
  • The last one is from the admin you have involved. I have replied to him. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 01:53, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, Gareth, my view is that it's unfair to me to pretend I'm guilty of anything just because JT filed a complaint and accused me of bad faith. How does he climb down from that in a way that allows him to work with me? If he doesn't want to collaborate with other editors that is his decision but it would be a mistake to ignore that. For that reason, I think it would be more fruitful to restrict ourselves to the Talk page until we agree mutually to return to editing the article page. Do you think that has any merit? -- Ring Cinema (talk) 02:31, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Well Gareth, please Gareth, please, someone has figured out what I really am like Look you can keep doing this with a strop to look innocent, but the fact is, from the start of you registering on Wikipedia over 3 years ago, you have gotten into conflict over conflict about how you deal with others on Wikipedia, in relation to films especially, insulting adminstrators, and have been blocked multiple times. Somehow, you keep comign back. Seriously it is not hard, just take a look through his entire talk history. End of story, as he has dealt with me in the same way. I have already listened to you, which is why I had a draft on the talk page in the first place, to resolve issues, but you do not accept it. Simple. Stop this nonsense. JTBX (talk) 03:49, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
  • I couldn't agree more. I would even go further to say that at the moment I see no point in continuing discussion with him, which is why I encouraged JBTX to pursue the DR himself after he informed me of his similar argument. I am now on a self-imposed voluntary interaction-ban, of sorts. Meaning: I do not intend to address him directly anymore. And if he is reading this, I would like for him to do the same. I have no intention of rehashing what happened at the relevant talkpage thread at No Country for Old Men (film) which is what he is trying to do -- meanwhile, re-framing it to fit his own distorted purview, as JBTX alludes to above.
  • @Gareth, I can appreciate your positive tone and attempts to mediate, but I disagree with your assessment above that the air has been cleared. User:RC has not acknowledged his part in the escalation of these two disputes. I.e, he seems to be saying he's done nothing wrong. For example, apparently he still thinks he reached a compromise with the other editor (StarofAmman) at No Country -- when, as I see it, Star simply kept changing the content until RC stopped reverting -- all the while neither of them adding to the talkpage. That's not compromise. El duderino (abides) 08:07, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, yeah, she made a change I accepted. Then I went to her talk page and told her it was fine by me. That is what a compromise looks like: someone makes a proposal that the other side agrees is good enough. So, yeah, you have confirmed that Star and I made our compromise. I'm not sure why you don't recognize it when you are looking at it, but okay. --Ring Cinema (talk) 08:32, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't think you have ever been this honest. "She made a change I accepted. Then I went to her talk page and told her it was fine by me." WP:OWN. --JTBX (talk) 18:19, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
@ EdJohnston Hi, you left a comment on El duderino's page stating that we should try RfC? how does this work, and if you could advise, what is the best procedure to file a complaint that is very long, complex and detailed? If discussion and so on has already been tried and if the user is a known edit warrior as well in conflict with other users is RfC on a user ideal? Thank you. JTBX (talk) 04:04, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
You'll need to simplify your request. If you make an RfC about 20 things nobody may bother to respond. If you actually are hoping to find consensus it doesn't help to come to my page and badmouth the other editor. You might consider making a new draft of the article in your user space and then ask for comments. EdJohnston (talk) 04:07, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
  • At 04:39, April 25 2012 (UTC) Admin EdJohnston protected The Godfather: Edit warring / Content dispute: WP:AN3#User:Ring Cinema reported by User:JTBX (Result: Protected). It expires 04:39, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

@ EdJohnston Thank you for your time spent on this matter. Not what I was hoping for, but, on reflection, it is a sound choice of action. It will at least appear to be a birthday present to me when editing may be resumed on the twentyeighth. @ Ring Cinema Yes! Why don't we do that (see above: 03:31 hrs. today!)  – more or less what I was intending . @ JTBX Your youthful enthusiasm is infectious. I think we enjoy working alongside each other. This will get better, trust me! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 07:44, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I posted there and I'll be watching your page -- no need to put tags here when there's a new response. And just fyi, I may not post there again because I really don't want to interact directly with RC. El duderino (abides) 08:48, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I fully understand. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:56, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Gareth, you are a well established and excellent editor to work with, and of course I would love to continue working on the sequels and so on, as well as any future projects, but you have to understand as duderino has pointed out, there is no point talking to RC anymore. If you want try something then post the draft we worked on and improve it, into the article. Lets see what he does then. JTBX (talk) 18:51, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
@ JTBX Thank you and, “Yes”, we will continue. I am sad at how it has turned out; even I am affected by the admin's action, in that nobody has access to the article. Absurd! We three must use the talk page more from now on. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk)
I've just seen that the article is now protected because of the dispute. As a result I may leave a message on the Godfather talk page, though I have already stated what I have wished and edited the draft there with your help. JTBX (talk) 20:21, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Gareth, since you, RC and I are the only ones editing the article, then I would like to ask your actual opinion on the matter. Do you think our draft should replace the one in the article, and have us work from there? Without your agreement I will have to solely report RC, but all of that can be avoided provided you help this consensus. As a result both of us can notify EdJohnston, who will then allow it to be placed in the article and remove protection. At least that is the way I see it after speaking with EJ. JTBX (talk) 23:31, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
No'!' -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk)

Alright here is what I am going to do: In this cool off period until the article is unprotected, I will reason out on the talk page of the article, why I think the plot should be included, as I have began to do so. I suggest you go there and see, as well as improving it. I request for your help Gareth, if possible, editing the draft and responding. Ring Cinema does not appear to have any recent editing history on the subsequent Godfather films so I don't expect a conflict there. I have already begun cutting the plot on II in a saved draft offline and will paste it into the talk page of Part II first, and request your help with it. I did not reveal this until now because I know Ring-Cinema would have made his move there and he hasn't yet, but if he does... know that it was because I just stated this and he probably wishes to spur another conflict. Okay? I will then return to Godfather Part I, to see if issues have ironed out. If conflict arises again without an actual provided good reason as before I will file RfC on the film. If I see it as more serious, I will file an RfC on the user with help from El duderino and others who may have faced similar issues. --JTBX (talk) 01:18, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

@ JTBX I read your last night's posting a couple of hours ago. Been walking my dog round the lakes ... this is when I do my best thinking. Will get back to you later this morning. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Please see talk page again, I finished this task. --JTBX (talk) 11:16, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
I have been on the Godfather talk page ... well done! ... a lot of conscientious effort and well worth reading. I am still debating in my mind how to approach our return to the article. Much depends upon your relationship with Ring. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:24, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

This is becoming serious[edit]

  • Have you seen "No Country" today? This is becoming serious. Also his attempt to involve MarnetteD | Talk I think he probably got the idea of doing that from my talk page ... see this I've been following The Godfather talk with dismay.

Re- his plot draft:

Having edited the first paragraph yesterday, I have just had a go at the second. It now reads thus:

  • Drug baron Virgil "The Turk" Sollozzo (Al Lettieri), backed by the Tattaglia family, asks Vito for investment and protection through his political connections, but Vito declines and voices his disapproval of drug dealers. His enforcer, Luca Brasi (Lenny Montana) is killed when sent to spy on them. Sollozzo attempts to assassinate Vito. His eldest son, Sonny (James Caan) takes command. Sollozzo kidnaps Hagen, suggesting he should persuade Sonny to accept his deal. Whilst the Corleone family discuss the situation, they receive a fish in Brasi's vest confirming he sleeps with the fishes.

-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:49, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

  • I cannot, like everyone else, edit the article.

I just wanted to bring his draft of the plot in line with our thinking. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:26, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Not necessary. I already edited the second paragraph in the article. The chance that he's going to be anything but a nuisance is about equal to zero. --Ring Cinema (talk) 19:29, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Trying, and clearly failing, to pour some olive oil on the boiling water. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:39, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
JT can decide to be productive, or he can decide to be destructive. For The Godfather, we're fine. We'll proceed on the basis of unanimity. I don't want you to be in the middle. --Ring Cinema (talk) 19:42, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
And apparantly I do not know what Consensus means. From the first paragraph of Wikipedia:Consensus "Consensus refers to the primary way decisions are made on Wikipedia, and it is accepted as the best method to achieve our goals. Consensus on Wikipedia does not mean unanimity (which, although an ideal result, is not always achievable); nor is it the result of a vote. This means that decision-making involves an effort to incorporate all editors' legitimate concerns, while respecting Wikipedia's norms." Which is what I have been trying to do.
No Country for Old Men I am not disrupting the article, only improving it. I did not use personal attacks, that is simply a falsfication. I am not violating any consensus, there is simply one on the plot which mentioned reducing detail and improving it, and which is what I am doing. I see it needs to be improved more and trying to be productive, but you have continually reverted my edits. Please stop. If you have suggestions, take them to the talk page. --JTBX (talk) 21:07, 27 April 2012 (UTC)The fact that you took my edits to No Country as a disruption illustrates my point perfectly. You took it as another attack, when I was simply editing to improve, because you do not own the article. "Our way of thinking" Gareth, shame on you for acting as a neutral partner but simply rolling over for Ring. I contacted MarnetteD and others as part of a wider consensus and going through The Godfather history to see who else had been editing the article, so that is wrong now? Its called Rfc too and following Wikipedia policy. WP:PLOTSUM I expected better, since you would rather leave in details such as "sleep with the fishes" over Peter Clemenza killing Paulie and so on. But which I chose to keep as part of the consensus. SO so many problems like this with the current summary. Obviously Gareth you want it to remain Ring, you and me, while trying to act like a neutral partner but really just pulling me along to Ring's side. But that will never happen. Ring has been caught for the edit warrior he is. --JTBX (talk) 21:19, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, that's inaccurate. I'm editing, not warring. I proposed we edit on the basis of unanimity; JTBX rejected that and violated the admin's terms. --Ring Cinema (talk) 00:10, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Buon compleanno[edit]

Happy birthday, Gareth! --Shirt58 (talk) 10:29, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

  • Hello Shirt58 in Tasmania, aka Peter in Australia

Thank you for the birthday greeting! How on Earth did you know ... ? Best regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:11, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

  • Hello Peter, Just clicked on the link. Didn't notice it on first look. Great. I have all their records – 45's and LP's – all bought on release in the sixties. You clever devil!
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:26, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Dear Mr Griffith-Jones.
My husband and I pass on our best wishes on the occasion of your birthday. I have a special affection for the people of Wales, not only because I am of the "Dog fancy" of Welsh Corgis, but also because my son is also the current Prince of Wales, and his favourite movie is The Godfather. I commissioned the Master of the Queen's Music to write a special piece of music for birthdays for my loyal Welsh subjects. Here it is, as performed by the Royal Corgi Choir.
--Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of Australia and Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth58 (talk) 12:22, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Your Majesty, (Mrs.Betty Windsor ... indeed!) I am lost for words. My first dog was a Pembrokeshire Corgi. I remain, Ma'am, your ever humble servant, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 13:05, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
See here for earlier corgi news. And my first dog was described by our family Vet as a "Glenorchy Terrier", a possibly rather elegant shorthand for "any one of a short-haired, terrier-like small to medium sized dogs of no fixed breed endemic to the the northern suburbs of Hobart" :-) --Shirt58 (talk) 11:49, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Do hope the left calf isn't too scarred. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 14:37, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Like in a number of the Bond films, Ernst Stavro Blofeld is the culprit. After his nefariousness in White bikini of Ursula Andress and Justin Bieber's hair I WP:WATCHLIST'd a number of the pages he edited, simple as that. Oh, hang on, this was about The Godfather. It's on my watchlist, because... er, I dunno, but it is. (ps: leg is fine, elderly corgi bite healed up months ago!)--Shirt58 (talk) 11:29, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
You have given me a lot of entertainment and puzzlement since April 28. We'll keep in touch, I trust. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Happy Birthday mate[edit]

I realised it was your birthday. Regards. JTBX (talk) 20:34, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your greeting! All the best, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:43, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I note you have returned to the article to edit the plot summary this evening. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:51, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
Regarding edit: Yes, and look at the history. A User Chaheel made an improvement which I had already accomplished in the draft, it hurts me to see that editors are trying to improve the article, but Ring offers nothign but reverts. I also suggest you check out the talk page. JTBX (talk) 22:55, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
@ JTBX What ridiculous things you say about Wikipedian co-editors. Articles are never finished, they remain "works in progress", and if you have not appreciated that yet, you should go away and come back when you have grown up! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:37, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

They say it's your birthday ...[edit]

Rollbacker[edit]

Hi, this is just to let you know that I've granted you the rollback tool and responded to your email. I'm so sorry for inconveniencing you! Keilana|Parlez ici 18:09, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Good evening Keilana,
Thank you for your consideration.
I have my permission. Now I must learn all about it, before using Rollback. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:10, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Not a problem. If you need help with anything or have any questions, please don't hesitate to drop me a line. Keilana|Parlez ici 02:06, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Keilana Thank you. I shall not forget. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:15, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

recently found and started employing Igloo[edit]

Hello Ale jrb,

I have recently found and started employing Igloo. I am very impressed and prefer it to both Huggle and STiki. I particularly appreciate "my log" at the bottom of the page. A couple of questions:

  • how does Igloo deal with more than one revision made consecutively?
  • Does it rollback to the previous editor's revision?
  • In the edit summary, why not Igloo – rather than (GLOO)?

Kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:08, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Heya. Thanks for your feedback, really appreciate it. Igloo uses the built-in rollback feature - so it will rollback all consecutive edits made by the person you are reverting to the revision of the last, different editor. I chose to use GLOO because it amused me, and is arguably more memorable - advertising, and all that. Ale_Jrbtalk 09:24, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
That was a quick response – thank you! I was granted Rollback permission recently, so that's okay. Yes, it is more memorable, and it comes before 'h' for Huggle ... Excellent job. Any tips would be appreciated.
igloo chooses the correct warning level automatically - you don't need to select it. Ale_Jrbtalk 12:40, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Clever. I thought that must have been the case, because, after a 'session', I go through the list created on my Watchlist, and look at the warnings, before removing the user's name from my list. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 14:09, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Special Barnstar
Thanks for your contributions. SwisterTwister talk 20:49, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

My special barnstar[edit]

Hello SwisterTwister! I was delighted to receive your surprise this evening, but also a little mystified. I would love to know what it was that brought me to your attention. Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:35, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I was patrolling recent changes for recently active users to award barnstars, and I saw you've been extremely active with vandalism removal. I wanted to say thanks to users for their contributions. :) SwisterTwister talk 00:08, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, it is always pleasing to be recognised. Encouragement from one's peers is most welcome. I thank you.
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:16, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Please fill out our brief Teahouse survey[edit]

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Thanks, Gareth! Much appreciated - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 20:58, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

False Positive[edit]

Howdy,

Thanks for your work with Stiki - just writing to let you know that this guy's edit to Highgate Cemetery, while not particularly useful (which is why I've not put it back) was not vandalism or anything close, just cluelessness; I believe the article explains why. therefore I removed your warning, up to you what if anything you want to do next.

Cheers,

Egg Centri c 11:24, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Appreciate that. Really just a "Test" edit, wasn't it. Thank you for removing the warning. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:36, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
I think it's more than a test edit even, it is commonly believed by, er, a certain type of person that the place is indeed haunted. Actually it's well worth a visit if you're in London - especially the old half which is like a forest full of tombs.... Egg Centri c 11:38, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
I have driven up and down the A1 countless times, but never taken the advice that my father gave me – exactly the same as yours! Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:43, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Do I conclude from your usage of the A1 you are no longer in Wales, or that you suck at map reading Egg Centri c 22:49, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones. You have new messages at Jim1138's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Sadly, we moved from Wales to England. I used to sell in London, hence the driving in and through Highgate. I am probably more Welsh than if I had continued to live there! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:03, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Original Barnstar
Thank you! RFD (talk) 23:19, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Well. Thank you. It seemed like a good plan at the time, I thought. Never mind. Kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:37, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Mr Griffith-Jones
You seem to be the nice kind of Wikipedian, we all make mistakes, good on you for acknowledge it. Vandalism is a big problem, and its good we have diligent people like you fighting it. Don't get complacent, and be sure to keep the kid gloves on for the Noobs.Zath42 (talk) 20:08, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations, from STiki![edit]

The Anti-Vandalism + STiki Barnstar

Congratulations, Gareth Griffith-Jones! You're receiving this barnstar because you recently crossed the 1,000 classification threshold using STiki. We thank you both for your contribution to Wikipedia at-large and your use of the tool. We hope you continue your ascent up the leaderboard and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! West.andrew.g (developer) and ÐℬigXЯaɣ 08:22, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for catching the vandalism[edit]

Dear Gareth: Thank you for catching and undoing the vandalism on the page "Geometrical-optical illusions." As a scientist who has hopes that Wikipedia will be a reliable repository of knowledge, I am heartened by how well it is maintained by volunteers like you. Good wishes, belatedly, on your 70th birthday. AustraliaGwestheimer 16:38, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

How very kind of you to take the trouble to write this. It always feels good when appreciation is demonstrated. I am looking forward to Wales's three test tour. All the best, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

The King's School, Chester[edit]

Thank's for your contribution to The King's School, Chester where you reverted the edit by 86.132.226.144. I believe that 86.132.226.144 gave valid reasons for removing that part of the information in the controversies section: that is, that it is unverifiable, un-encyclopaedic and not notable enough for current interest ('medieval' was the term used by 86.132.226.144). I have previously tagged the information in question with 'citation needed' although no such citations have since been provided by the user who originally added the information (Tin55man). As a user with more experience than me, how long do you think they must have to provide proper verification for the information before you can delete it for the reasons I have just talked about? Strangemole (talk) 19:32, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I have just run through the history since Tin55man recent editing, looking at each page critically. I would consider that the time passed since your posting the tags is quite long enough and I shall revert the article to your preferred version. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 20:21, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your prompt reply Strangemole (talk) 20:23, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
  • You are most welcome. I shall always be pleased to help you in the future. All the best! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:22, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I would be very grateful for that. Happy editing! Strangemole (talk) 22:26, 28 May 2012 (UTC).

Southwest Airlines[edit]

This is not vandalism (although it is unsourced). N419 BH 17:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Are you content with this now? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:45, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Usually when I'm informed of an improper revert I revert myself and strikeout the warning on the user's talk page with a "Sent this in error, sorry," note, but what you choose to do is your own personal technique. Improper reverts happen from time to time; I've made a few over my career. You don't know if no one tells you. Just remember the vandalism policy says anything that's a good faith effort to improve the encyclopedia isn't vandalism. To me it looks like this IP thinks a 737 was delivered today, so he reduced the order count by one and increased the current fleet by one. While sources would be ideal, you would be better off using manual undo and saying "unsourced, please re-add if you have one" in the edit summary, then going to the talk page of the IP and give them a templated welcome messages about sources. This welcomes the newbie instead of scaring them off while also educating them on how they can improve their editing. Usually when I've screwed up it's because I'm moving through the various vandalism hunting tools too fast and need to slow down and read the edits more carefully.
Please understand I'm not trying to be a WP:DICK, I'm just giving you advice, vandalfighter to vandalfighter, on how you can improve you technique and avoid having someone drag you to the dramafest at WP:ANI. Thanks! N419 BH 21:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
And now we have another situation with Comp dude123 agreeing with me on one aspect, namely, the main issue that caught my attention – that the inclusion of planes on order, in the info' box, should be reverted (my original revision) – but disagreeing with the reverting of the minor revision, the addition of one plane to the fleet total, as you have explained to me here.
See this latest edit
I appreciate your guidance on the subject. I understand how important it is to encourage new editors. May I ask you, in your opinion, do IPs, in general, ever realise that they have a Talk page. I often modify a warning, and add Welcome postings, as I have done with this IP, but I do wonder if they are ever read. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:11, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Honestly it varies tremendously. I have seen IPs become active on talk pages, but it's fairly rare, and even more rare for it to be in good faith. It's more common for an obvious vandal/troll to take the talk page warning and start whining about it, hence my User:N419BH/reversion page. For good-faith IPs, it usually occurs that someone has seen something, makes a quick edit, and thence isn't heard from again. IPs seem particularly active in the aviation area; you will often see them updating fleet counts, airline destinations, and airport stats. Some of these IPs are fans, others may very well be employees of airlines, airports, and other vested parties. These IPs are likely dynamic so a number of different IPs are likely the same person or persons. N419 BH 22:29, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Much as I had guessed. I shall still continue to treat them kindly (as above) and in my short time here, I have encouraged at least four or five to register. I hate to leave a warning on a Talk page, once I discover that it was undeserved. Kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:42, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Postscript: I have studied your User:N419BH/reversion page ... very good ... all pertinent and concise. However, I am curious to know how you make use of it when coping with an IP vandal – obvious when the person is registered, but of course he/she would be unlikely of such crimes. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:12, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
IPs tend to get more chances actually than registered accounts, since the likelihood of collateral damage when a registered account is indeffed, especially with autoblock disabled, is extremely low or nonexistent. That page is really more WP:HUMOR than anything else, if someone is going to complain about a revert either they have a legitimate grievance or they're trolling; either way I respond with a customized message on their talk page. N419 BH 18:15, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your explanation. Kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Bugger[edit]

  • Re your unsigned posting ... please return to the article Bugger, and look at The history.
  • If you would like to discuss this further, please return to my Talk Page # Bugger. Kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Your last edit is fair.[edit]

Now explanation is more clear for all readers who are not familiar with history. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.121.192.146 (talk) 09:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Thank you for your swift response.
  • Your English is excellent. I commend you. No hard feelings, I trust?
  • Why do you not register yourself on Wikipedia?
Kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:13, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

just a thanks[edit]

Just a note to say thank you for your post on my talk page, Gareth.

Sincerely, --Ty rS 11:28, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

... and one from me![edit]

Greetings from Wales ... you are correct.[edit]

Early life: rem ungrammatical comma - the adjective "cramped" is attributed to the noun phrase "living conditions"; hence, "living" is not an adjective but an attributive noun.

Yes, you are correct. I shall blame my error on having just returned from a two weeks holiday, and the lateness of the hour.

My father, who was a commissioned officer in the British Army, was in Norway for the latter part of World War II, and always spoke fondly of your country.

With kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:52, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. Cyfarchion, Eisfbnore (下さいて話し) 08:25, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Diolch yn fawr, Eisfbnore! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:14, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Gareth[edit]

Hi Gareth,

How's it going? I thought I'd post here briefly because I've just tidied up my talk page and moved our conversation elsewhere for the moment. (Just in case you missed it, my reply to your last post is here.)

Warm regards (how does one say that in Welsh? Could I use something like "Iechyd da"? - just got that from a website, so I hope it means what they said it means), --Ty rS 06:03, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Good morning Tyr,
Glad to hear from you again and to receive your greeting! I am sorry to say that my Welsh is almost non-existant, because I am of the era when English rule over Wales actively prevented the speaking of our ancient language officially in Wales. Quite the reverse nowadays since being given a certain amount of home rule.
I had read your last reply to me – and agree with you on all of the points that you made there; that it is better to just be amused and leave the clowns to irritate each other. For me to stir it up again now would be foolish with regard to your present non-involvement.
Diolch yn fawr, Tyr. We'll keep in touch, I trust. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:49, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Orbital wording[edit]

Just in case you didn't see it – someone else has posted since me – I have shown my support in The history:

(cur | prev) 08:36, July 3, 2012 Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk | contribs) . . (41,542 bytes) (+4) . . (Re- previous edit summary: I agree with DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered ... of course it is "orbital" and should be referred to as such here. "Ring road", really! + adding para break to clarify meaning of "It") (undo)

All the best, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:17, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I did see that, thank you very much. Ermmmm ... I feel a bit bad but I have taken issue with a couple of other things the editor has done along the same lines. I don't want to look like I am on his case or spoiling for a fight, though - nothing could be further from the truth. So my strategy now is to shut up and see what happens. I prefer a quiet life, peace, love, harmony and all that stuff. :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 10:25, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
I agree. "Life's too short" as the hackneyed cliché tells us, but having just returned, fighting-fit, from two entire weeks without access to any form of PC, I shall be glad to keep an eye open on your behalf whilst you continue your wiki-break.
Your user name is superb ... I often wonder what I would have chosen had I not opted for my own name. I am certain that whatever I chose, I would tire of it. Not yours, though!
BTW, noticed the Discussion page posting, so have added my support there too. Any others? Cheers, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Gareth, many thanks for this and your other comments. No, there are no others I was worried about. I did have a look at Steve's changes to the M60 article because it was on a similar theme but actually I thought that what he had done there was perfectly fair so no problem, and I certainly do not want to start a fight with him. Thank you re the username! When I started here in 2002 (aargh!) I had a username which was simply a variant of my real name. I was very active for a while as that but I did eventually get pretty fed up with it all and decided I was better off semi-retired. I came back once or twice with different accounts (I scrambled the passwords of ones I'd left so I wouldn't be tempted back, and it was a lesser sin in those days) but I never managed to give it up entirely, which is why I am now back here claiming to be D, B and K! I do quite like it though it is not always true - I still have moments of idealism about the project! - and I sometimes wish it wasn't so long, but hey. Largely speaking it kind of works. Nowadays I do try to avoid conflict, though it can be difficult when you are doing work of this nature. :) I hope you enjoyed your fortnight away from computers! Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Thank you for your thoughtful message, it is greatly appreciated. As always, let me know if I can ever be of assistance. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 14:05, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Your revert[edit]

This edit was not as unconstructive as you deemed it. Since I am well-versed in Jewish literature and laws, i understand the edit. Perhaps the problem was more your knowledge of the subject than the constructiveness of the edit. Debresser (talk) 23:22, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Debresser for contacting me. On the face of it, the edit looked to me as an instance of an attack on Jewish customs, and I am pleased to be instructed here. Please tell me what you wish:
  1. re-instate the edit that I reverted?
  2. if not, how should the item read in your opinion?
  3. any change to be made by you, or me?
Regards,
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 07:40, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Frankly speaking, even though the edit was correct, I think it is too specific, especially since the addition isn't in the Torah verse. Debresser (talk) 12:28, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Fine. So we leave it reverted? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 14:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
I try to not revert anything that isn't wrong (technically or factually). Anything that can be said to be more or less okay, I don't touch. So, yes, I'd leave it reverted. If others will disagree, they'll reinstall the edit. :) Debresser (talk) 23:13, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Sure. Thank you for that comment. Good night. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:21, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
You too! :)
Btw, I hope you like the way the user templates on this page are aligned in rows now? Debresser (talk) 00:13, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Templates? I am confused. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 00:21, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Also called "userboxes". Debresser (talk) 00:24, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Good morning Debresser!

I thought that's what you must have meant – yes, they look professionally positioned now. Thank you for the gift. Now I must apply my sleuthing expertise to discover when exactly you carried this out. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 06:48, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Did you find how I did it? :) Debresser (talk) 19:56, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Good morning Debresser, ha! No I have not. Puzzled -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:37, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
See e.g. this edit. There was one more, same idea. Debresser (talk) 13:46, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
Y-e-e-s-s, but I still cannot find it. I had already been through The history.
Every one of your edits only showed revisions to this section, like this here? – "No, you have beaten me. I give up." -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:13, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
The trick is that once you fix the template, this page and all other pages displaying that template, got fixed automatically. :) Debresser (talk) 08:43, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
That is fine if you know what you are looking for.
Initially, I had imagined it was this one: (+1) . . (→Your revert: Typo. Unwatch page. Nice to have crossed the path of this polite editor.), but I cannot find your revision. I do not have a "Userboxes" template on my Talk page – although I added one to me User page months ago.
Why is it that I feel like a Welsh (brown) trout about to be landed on the bank of the River Usk near Sennybridge?
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Soon to be made into gefilte fish... Debresser (talk) 23:02, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I have noticed that a scroll bar has appeared at the bottom of this page ...
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:11, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
That was not of my doing. At least, not that I am aware of. Debresser (talk) 23:02, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I found that glitch quickly, but have made no adjustments in that area for weeks. (?) So ... Okay, just realised that the correction was not made here, was it. It was to the UBX -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:42, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
At last. Indeed. That was the diff I showed you. Debresser (talk) 23:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Yes -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:46, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
... so how does putting 'noinclude' after the template alter the template itself? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:55, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

A template doesn't end with "}}. A template ends with the end of the template page. Just that the part within the <noinclude> tags is not included when the template is used (which we call "transcluded" here on Wikipedia). If there is a space or whiteline before that tag, it will also be copied. Like in this case. Debresser (talk) 07:49, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

I understand fully.
Still very impressed with your skills. Many thanks! Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 08:17, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I fix this specific error often. I once used to be active on maintenance templates. Debresser (talk) 23:46, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

I lost our conversation[edit]

Hi Gareth, We were having it elsewhere and I've forgotten where.
That was around the 24th of May, Victoria Day. We were on my friend's boat, watching the fireworks.
I think I forget to provide the epilogue to that story:

When we came back to the marina, there were large lights set up which are not normally there. We puzzled over it briefly.
A couple of days later, the facts surfaced. The Prince of Wales was in town that day. So the lights marked the spot where Charles and Camilla had been watching the fireworks with the Premier of Ontario and the Mayor of Toronto. And we were anchored maybe 200 yards away at the time. So that's it.

I just noticed something odd about this page. You are friendly with rj. I would say that that is a tribute to your good nature, Gareth.

And if I've told you the fireworks story already, then that's my brain haemorrhage talking!
Cheers, Varlaam (talk) 02:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Thank you for your last comment. Here is our conversation! (You were close on the date) –
It's exactly that which makes me like you – apart from our comradeship on the Rugby Union articles, of course! All the best, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:37, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
I resisted creating mine, until one of the really senior guys did it for me. Varlaam (talk) 18:45, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Rugby Union? What did I see that time in New South Wales? Rugby League, I think it was.
The Eastern Suburbs Roosters, that was it.
Where are you then Varlaam? I make my location obvious on my pages. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:51, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
A place you cannot reach easily, if at all, by coal-fuelled steam train, alas, from the Principality.
I am in Toronto, where the Prince of Wales was yesterday. He's said to be in Regina today.
It was our biggest national holiday on Monday, Victoria Day.
I resided in Sydney in 1988 for a short term project. That's where the Roosters were playing the Manley Beach Sea Eagles. Good game.
Many of my relations are in Gloucestershire but I have never made it over the border.
I have spoken with Bryn Terfel twice however; he is a great big mobile bit of Welsh vocal tradition.
Varlaam (talk) 19:04, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Also, I am wondering why I posted this on your Talk page. Something must have made me believe that you are Welsh at that time. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I have not checked my Talk page since 2010.
I suppose it is an area of interest. I saw the bridge north of Bristol, I think?, the last time I was over, but I'm not going to "go to Wales" for 12 minutes just to say "I have now visited Wales." I need to have a proper trip some year.
I did Cornwall once with a girlfriend; that was just beautiful. And those accents!
I have a Welsh relation, by marriage. He has a page here, but I'm not going to identify him further.
Varlaam (talk) 19:09, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
One of my friends from Toronto was just elected mayor of his town in Somerset, or so I was told on Monday.
Makes me want to head over your way again. Varlaam (talk)
Thank you very much for responding so fully. I believe maybe you were contributing to Talk:Wales at the time, or possible contributing to the Discussion page for the Welsh film Hedd Wyn led me to believe you had an interest in Wales. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:53, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
  • A good story.
  • Any more to add to the above?
  • How are you? Best wishes, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 07:50, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Regarding your STiki edits[edit]

From one STiki user to another: this was not really unconstructive, atleast not warranting a revert. (i admit the grammar is better in the reverted version. still...) What do you think? Thanks! Anir1uph (talk) 12:59, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I remember it well – good grammar and clear English, as we speak it, is what I am all about in this instance, hence the revert. Agree? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 13:08, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Agree. :) Anir1uph (talk) 14:09, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Good. I am pleased to make your acquaintance. You seem to be a bit of a wonder boy ... or girl ... I have no way of telling. Please come to this place of mine whenever you want to discuss a Wikipedia edit/subject. Cheers!
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 15:36, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Hahah! I am a guy (i think i have provided a link to my facebook profile on my user page) Me a wonder boy? How? But thanks! :D And hey, i'd like to suggest u to start archiving your talk page, as on a slower connection, it takes ages for the complete page to load, and when it does, the scroll bar becomes tiny. Just a suggestion! :) Thanks! Anir1uph (talk) 16:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Best not to go there. But, I suffer in the same way, so understand perfectly.
I don't get involved with Facebook or Twitter, but very "open" here on this and my User page.
I was discarding lots and reduced it by more than a third, but it has grown rapidly, recently, and requires a firm approach. See no point in tucking 'stuff' away where no-one will ever look. I shall address it promptly ... BTW, what time is it now with you? All the best! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:01, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Best not to go where? Anyways, it is 00:26 here in India (at the time of saving my comment). Or you can go to my user page. there, my local time is displayed too. :P The archiving suggestion is just cz my usual 3G connection was down for some time (it has been restored), and i had to use by backup 2G internet connection (which is obviously slow) and so it was difficult to reply to this post, which was at the bottom of your talk page. That all :) Anir1uph (talk) 18:57, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
If you were to click on my name in the blue box on the Talkback display, you would be brought directly to this section (then it may jump back and forth a little ... for a second or two) but you will finish here. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:53, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

no that does not happen. A web page like wikipedia loads linearly (from top to bottom), so this section will not load till all above it get loaded. And only when this section has finished loading, will the web browser shift the view to this section. Of course, while using a fast connection, that seems instantaneous. The up and down you are talking about is generally due to web page images taking more time to load than text. So the browser shifts the view as it allocates space to incorporate images as and when they load. Thanks (and perhaps sorry for the technical description) Cheers! Anir1uph (talk) 23:03, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm impressed ... you are a wonder boy!
Do you work with computers?
It is nearly ten minutes after midnight here. I suppose you are having an early breakfast, whereas I shall be off to bed in a few minutes. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:10, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, i work with computers and some programming too, but mostly i am studying to become a physicist. Yeah, it 5 am here. Its my summer vacations, and I usually work through the night. It was great to 'meet' you here! Good night! Anir1uph (talk) 23:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks[edit]

Thanks so much for the greeting - belated or otherwise :) - it is much appreciated and creative too boot. I mentioned once that we get a limited amount of rugby coverage here in the US. Well we got to see two of the three games in the State of Origin series recently and, after watching the Six Nations and Rugby World Cup over the years, I was asking myself "Where are the throw ins from the side?" and "Why are there so few scrums?" then it came to me that I'd heard the terms Rugby Union and Rugby League over the years and mistakenly assumed they were the same. Thanks goodness WikiP is here so that I can learn the difference between the two. Thanks again and enjoy the rest of your summer. MarnetteD | Talk 16:50, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

You too. I remembered that you liked watching the (few) Six Nations matches that they broadcast in the United States. Thanks for the hyperlink above (Australian 'league') – and I shall expect the US to do even better in the next Rugby Union World Cup. Each year they get better and better, which is remarkable considering how few play the game. I shall enjoy learning more about 'Union' over on your side. Any suggestions?
Best wishes, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
I don't know if there is any one place to get good info about US Rugby but that is probably because I haven't searched much. Even though we have Rugby Super League (United States) it gets almost no coverage and little sponsorship. Major League Lacrosse has better coverage since they have a TV deal with regional cable TV channels. Interestingly Colorado has had two teams - the Denver Barbarians and the Gentlemen of Aspen RFC - that have been around for awhile and been competitive at times. A small suburb just east of Denver called Glendale had a stadium Glendale, Colorado#Infinity Park built just for rugby and I even got to see a game of the Churchill Cup that was played there a couple years ago. I suspect that progress will be slow until TV gets involved. They spend the big money. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 21:29, 5 July 2012 (UTC)0

Thanks :)[edit]

Hey Gareth,

Thanks for the Wimbledon strawberries - I feel like I'm there!

I'm starting to have a slight suspicion that you might be a bit of a sports fan. :)

--Ty rS 03:12, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Hi! Actually no ... only Rugby Union during the year ... and Wimbledon for tennis. Not at all interested in football!
Did you enjoy your little break from Wikipedia? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 07:51, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Cookie for you[edit]

Cookies!

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For being active in the discussions at Wikipedia talk:STiki. cheers--DBig Xray 19:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Help:Wiki markup: "nonsensical garbage"?[edit]

In This revert, you undid my edit with a comment "Remove nonsensical garbage."

The material was:

If you want text that will only be visible when viewing the Wiki source code to a page, and will not appear in the resultant HTML source code, the {{Void}} template expands to nothing. This produces smaller web pages than HTML comments, which are included in the HTML.

Um, it seemed grammatically correct and comprehensible to me. Maybe I could have phrased it better, but it doesn't seem in the least "nonsensical". Can you explain precisely where it stops making sense for you?

Thank you. 71.41.210.146 (talk) 08:45, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

  • ... from here: "the {{Void}} template expands to nothing. This produces smaller web pages than HTML comments, which are included in the HTML." How can anything expand to "nothing"? And the following sentence confuses me entirely ... What is the reason for your revision?
  • I always use this: The format is to surround the hidden text with '<!--' and '-->' and may cover several lines, e.g.:
<!-- An example of hidden comments
 This won't be visible except in "edit" mode. -->
  • Please give an example when you would use the 'template void' instead!
Regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:18, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
"Expand" is the term used by mediawiki itself (e.g. in Special:ExpandTemplates) for the process of replacing a template invocation by the text of that template. There are two forms: transclusion (done at page-retrieval time) and substitution (done at page-save time). Normally the replacement is larger than the template invocation, but there are exceptions. like {{bullet}} (which "expands" to  • ), {{(}} (which "expands" to {), and, of course, {{Void}} (which "expands" to the empty string).
It's also the standard computer-science term for the operation of any textual substitution preprocessor, like TeX. m4, the C preprocessor, etc. So I use it even if the "expansion factor" is less than 1.
Regarding your request for an example, it's useful if you prefer that the text is only visible to Wiki editors, and does not add to WMF's network bandwidth bill being transmitted to ordinary wikipedia readers (who will only see the comment if they look at the HTML source).
Any long or bulky comment is particularly useful for this, especially if it explains something internal to the wiki (like a markup technique used to produce a particular effect; {{Void|I can't use Template:Convert here because it produces the unwanted output "blah"...}} or {{Void|Don't use rowspan here, because it makes the table unsortable}}) rather than a comment on the encyclopedic content like <!-- Different sources give conflicting dates of birth; this appears to be the best answer because blah blah -->
Template:Void can cover several lines, too. Just put {{^| at the beginning, and }} at the end. As long as it's properly nested mediawiki markup inside, all will be well. (Which is not the case with nested HTML comments.)
Perhaps a better way of saying it would be something like

HTML comments are included in the HTML generated by the MediaWiki software, transmitted to each reader of the wiki page, and ignored by the reader's web browser. Thus, they do cost a small amount of network bandwidth for each reader of the resultant page. Another way to include a comment in the wiki markup uses {{Void}}, which can be abbreviated as {{^}}. This template "expands" to the empty string, generating no html output; it is visible only to people editing the wiki source. Thus {{Void|A lengthy comment here}} generates a slightly smaller, faster-loading web page than <!-- A lengthy comment here-->. The difference is usually too small to matter, compared to the 17000 bytes of boilerplate included in each wikipedia page, but might matter for very large comments.

The template is already mentioned (briefly) in Help:HTML in wikitext#HTML comment.
Is that any clearer? 71.41.210.146 (talk) 14:28, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
  • It most definitely is. Thank you for such a full explanation. You have been very patient. I have copied'n'pasted my edit summary of a few minutes ago for you to read here ...

(cur | prev) 15:09, July 26, 2012 Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk | contribs) . . (62,007 bytes) (+367) . . (Reverted to revision 502700405 by 71.41.210.146: Following full clarification from the IP editor, the revision is re-instated. ( P'haps tweaking the copy for ease of reading). (TW)) (undo)

  • Please have a look at it again and perhaps – as you have suggested above, "... Maybe I could have phrased it better," – have a go at a little rephrasing. With kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 15:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
I put in a stripped-down variant of my comment above. After a bit of experimentation, it turns out that (mea culpa for false statements) MediaWiki does strip out HTML comments when generating HTML output. (I looked at wikipedia HTML source and saw comments, but didn't check if they were fromthe wiki text.) So the {{^}} style is actually of limited use. Still, there is some use, so I documented it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.41.210.146 (talk) 04:00, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Another way to include a comment in the wiki markup uses the {{Void}} template, which can be abbreviated as {{^}}. This template "expands" to the empty string, generating no html output; it is visible only to people editing the wiki source. Thus {{^|A lengthy comment here}} operates similarly to the comment <!-- A lengthy comment here-->. The main difference is that the template version can be nested, while attempting to nest HTML comments produces odd results.

  • Sure! Once again, my thanks for replying, and for what you have arrived at. All the best, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 06:27, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Without a song, the road would never end, without a song, you'd drive me round the bend... Greenmaven (talk) 21:22, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Let's have a cuppa[edit]

Thank you for your kind words and helpful edit! And the baklava looks delicious! londonsista Poke 11:21, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
What a great idea! And digestive biscuits ... the first choice every time for me ... how could you have known? Kindest regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:18, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Copyediting – try looking here for starters[edit]

(To the editors in the previous section)... Everything you ever wanted to know about CE'ing can be found here Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. Check out the 'Requests' tab. I am a friendly talk-page stalker. --Greenmaven (talk) 07:26, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Diolch am hynny, Jack! I have put the article on my Bookmarks toolbar for easy access. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 07:46, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
I will need some translation into the language of the invaders, if you can bear to do it. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 20:29, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
It means "Thank you for that", Jack! Be assured! Any written Welsh is strictly limited to friendly Wikipedian talk pages, so, with that in mind, Cyfarchion!, which means "Greetings!"
Tell me about the 'Requests' tab, please. I see the above request to me is there: [3].
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 21:29, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Under the entry you have found for that article on the requests page, you can put {{working}} followed by your signature. When you have completed the CE, you can put {{done}} followed by your signature on the following line. Someone else will remove the entry later. It is also a good idea to put {{GOCEinuse}} at the top of the article to be edited, and leave it there until you are done. Thanks for the translations—Cyfarchion! was a bit of a worry... --Greenmaven (talk) 05:37, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Ha ha! I suppose you are right ... a bit like ****off, did you think? I thank you for all the above assistance. I was a little concerned that if another had been asked, it could cause me difficulties, but feel better about it now.
All the best! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 05:44, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

10q...[edit]

...for your welcome. Two lines just to let you know that (with another nick) I operate(d) on it.'Pedia since 2004. So I 'tink i know that kind of world. And being that 'Pedia crowded by the same kind of users, I generally work in it.Wikisource. Much "quieter". Bye! --Silvio Gallio (talk) 06:55, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Cheers! All the best! Sincerely -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 07:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

The Mistress (2012 film)[edit]

Hello! Sorry for the wrong things that I have done to you. Actually, I created the article about this film, the reason why I removed the link that you put in the Director of the film is that it's not nice to see a red link/not existing page in that article. We'll just put it as unlinked and wait until someone create a biography about him/her. Thank you so much for your concern and i hope you forgive me about that. -- Alphonsewan (talk) 07:56, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
Thank you so much for your tireless efforts in copy-editing "I Could Fall in Love"! Hope for the best for you =) Thanks, Jona talk to me 21:23, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

GOCE mid-drive newsletter[edit]

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Rhotacism in The Life of Brian[edit]

Obviously you are a very experienced Wikipedia contributor, and I won't argue with you. In your reversal of my modest addition to The Life of Brian However, you wrote that rhotacism is self explanatory from the context. Although I have 20 years of educations, I had to look up the word to understand what was meant. I do not know most of Wikipedia policies, but I try to pursue ease of reading and comprehension. I do not intend to engage in a reversal war, and would appreciate if you could explain what principle made you delete my clarification, since that sentence was not self explanatory.--Gciriani (talk) 14:24, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Good afternoon Gciriani,
Thank you for your posting on my talk page, and welcome to Wikipedia. I commend you for your challenge of my reversion. This is exactly what editing Wikipedia is all about.
My reasoning is merely that by your continuing to read that particular paragraph, the meaning becomes perfectly clear and an explanation followed by the word in parenthesis appears as "over-egging the cake".
Sincerely.
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (GG-J's Talk) 16:44, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
I have to argue with you: by completely reading the paragraph the meaning does not become perfectly clear. At least it was not to me, and I'm hardly uneducated. The expression "speech impediment" is not an explanation, but rather a common English expression to describe this situation. Second, good communication often involves repeating concepts, when they are not clear; just read a newspaper article written by a good journalist. Third, if you dislike redundancy, in my opinion it would be better to exclude rhoticism rather than speech impediment. Maybe you could use lisp instead than speech impediment. In my opinion rhoticism is a specialised word. This is an encyclopedia and not a treaty for logopedist, who are probably familiar with the word you used.--Gciriani (talk) 19:51, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
However, the hyperlink contained in the paragraph does provide an explanation for any reader unsure of the meaning of rhotacism,doesn't it? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (GG-J's Talk) 13:07, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
The fact that the hyperlink provides an explanation, doesn't detract from the point I made before. Rhoticism is a technical word, and technical words decrease readability. I think such a guideline should be added to the manual of style, if it is not already there. I may want to click on a hyperlink if I want to expand on a particular subject, but I shouldn't be made click on a link to understand a paragraph that can easily be written in plain English.--Gciriani (talk) 14:05, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Actually I just took a look at the Wikipedia:style page. Third paragraph from the top: Writing should be clear and concise. Plain English works best: avoid ambiguity, jargon, and vague or unnecessarily complex wording.--Gciriani (talk) 14:15, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Fair enough, my friend. I've decided that this would be better in a less private position and shall move this strand to the article's discussion page. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (GG-J's Talk) 18:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Railway equivalents to ring roads[edit]

I would welcome your opinion on Talk:Ring road#Railway equivalents to ring roads.--Toddy1 (talk) 14:10, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (GG-J's Talk) 21:38, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Ancient[edit]

Gareth, the Circle Line in London is not ancient. Remember that in English culture, the New Forest is over 1000 years old, and New College, Oxford is over 700 years old. English culture tends to be more advanced than many other nations. Magna Carta dates from 800 years ago and agrees that state officials are subject to rule of law just like everybody else; China has not reached that level of cultural development in the 21st century. The photo shows examples of the oldest man-made architecture in Dnepropetrovsk - they are about the same date as Norman churches; draw your own conclusions.--Toddy1 (talk) 18:37, 24 September 2012 (UTC)]]

Ah, you took me literally, I am afraid. I apologise for my rather odd sense of humour – I was really comparing the Jubilee line with this, a part of which – from Paddington station to Farringdon station – carried underground trains in 1863, as the original eastern/western terminii of the Metropolitan Railway, the world's first underground railway. The Circle line feels somewhat "ancient" when this comparison is made, and as a passenger, in the physical sense too.
Please remember that I am Welsh and believe that our language really can claim to be ancient.
Best regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (GG-J's Talk) 19:17, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Soviet submarine K-8[edit]

Your recent edits in Soviet submarine K-8 are in conflict with Wikipedia's Manual of Style. Please do explain why you think these edits are useful on the article's talk page. Thanks! --91.10.43.193 (talk) 19:51, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Did you not read their hidden messages requesting that they should remain, and the reason why they are required?
Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (GG-J's Talk) 19:55, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
I read them of course, but I don't see sufficient reason to keep the comment. As I said, such comments are explicitly forbidden by the MOS.
If you prefer a white space the way to go is to change the style sheet. That is way easier and all articles keep a unified look. --91.10.43.193 (talk) 19:58, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Fair enough. I have no axe to grind. Thank you for "talking" about it with me here. All the best, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (GG-J's Talk) 20:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Have fun! (Still me, dynamic IP) --79.223.7.225 (talk) 20:05, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

vandal[edit]

Hi Gareth - totally agree with your edit here to the "one-warning" notice I put on that Andy Williams vandal's talk page. It's a template (they're here), so it automatically reads "may" - I think I'll suggest that change on the template talk page. Thanks for the change - I saw no reason to give that person the standard 3 warnings. Nice to meet you! Tvoz/talk 08:17, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Good day Tvoz! I am guessing that you are on a similar time Zone to me, but if you are in the States, then you are either an early riser or perhaps an insomniac. Been reading your User page and with regard to popular music, you and I agree on every count – did you notice my adding an hyperlink to The Beatles on Andy Williams yesterday? – have all their 45s and LPs ... John, for me, the greatest talent. To your (short) list, I would have to be adding Fleetwood Mac.
Oh, and one of the first records I bought is Andy Williams' "Butterfly", and what's more, I still have it.
Glad you approve of my doctoring your vandal warning on that person (italics here to try to illustrate how I am saying the word) and ,yes please, do try to get that template edited.
Finally, I am admiring your signature and have copied your formatting style to mine. I trust you don't mind. All the best!
Sincerely,
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 11:22, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Postscript: I have reverted the later revision, but not warned the User ( a registered established user) Would you, if you were me? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 16:23, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm in New York, but Oh to be in England.... Back in the early 1970s, having graduated from college and was working, when they had the wonderful idea of "Youth Fare" - under $200 total round trip airfare - I took full advantage and went to London and environs about 8 times in 2 years or so with a friend. Never got to Wales, but hope to rectify that some time. I've been back with my husband a few times, and once with our kids when they were off to college, but not in several years. Actually it's not insomnia as much as getting caught up in things and not noticing the time! You are more than welcome to the signature - I've been meaning to spruce it up a bit more, but haven't gotten around to it - story of my life, as my in-need-of-archiving talk page demonstrates. I'll get to it, but I do kind of like looking back at it, so haven't felt a strong need. I do agree about John - recently had occasion to re-read the separate page here about his death and was surprised at how all of the feelings flooded back - 30+ years later - what a painful night that was. The Beatles will always define music for me, and I've written somewhere here about the thrill that I remember so well of being a young teenager in 1964, 65, 66, buying the new Beatles record as soon as it hit the stores - playing Sgt Pepper for the first time of hundreds that glorious summer... nothing like them before or since, although there's a lot of talent out there. I even love Radiohead. Andy Williams is a sentimental favorite -I did watch all of those tv specials and his regular show - and he had an amazing voice. I remember him with the Kennedys so not so fond of what he later claimed were his politics, especially that last bit a couple of years ago, but it is about the music. As far as the vandals go - really that page should have been semi-protected to keep away the IPs and anons bent on making trouble and adding idiotic garbage, but I guess it's mostly being handled. And as for that revision - removing those "aliases" - I agree with the reversion, but I don't think it's exactly vandalism on the other editor's part, so I'd suggest raising it on the article talk page instead of warning him (I haven't looked yet to see if it has been discussed there, actually). But do be careful not to get drawn into a 3RR situation, since his edit isn't obvious vandalism. Those nicknames - if they are even legitmate (where are the sources?) - do not qualify as "aliases", so in any case they don't belong in the infobox. If good sourcing is available, then maybe it could go somewhere in the text, like Mr. Christmas is. Off to look around - cheers! Tvoz/talk 21:16, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your super reply. Your advice with regard to my postscript is sound ... again thank you for that. Your AW editing last night is terrific. All the best with the archiving; never have I seen the sense in it setting it up – who is going to trawl through them? – so I merely remove strands I feel I don't need to return to and keep those I enjoy re-reading from time to time. When I first came to your page I was lifted to find someone with a good long list. Mine would probably be double its length if not for all the "Rm"s. Hope you have a great day in New York! With kind wishes, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 08:50, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
My pleasure - and thanks! I just took a quick look at the article and see that list of "aliases" again - I haven't looked at Talk yet. But if he's exceeded 3RR and no on has warned him, I will. Some people like to act, not talk - but we'll get this worked out. CheersTvoz/talk 04:08, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
He has. Thanks, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 04:19, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

* This is also discussed in "stroopwafles" which is after the strand below this one

I'd remove any nicknames that aren't properly sourced. Some folks like to use Wikipedia to try to make otherwise unpopular nicknames/etc popular. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:11, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
In case you missed it -see here. He got more chances than he deserved - this was the inevitable result when he didn't take the point and continued to waste everyone's time. Cheers! Tvoz/talk 02:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Yes, when I went off to my bed after my edit just before 23:00 hrs BST, I fully expected to wake up in the morning and find that the inevitable had happened. Thank you for your support ... there is so much to be done and these distractions are not welcome. The user would appear to be a one-trick pony. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 06:19, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Info' box:Rickmansworth[edit]

I owe you a drink. Sorry it's not Brains' bitter. Iechyd da! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 15:20, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Diolch yn fawr! I've struggled with the bloody things in the past, only to find it was something really simple required to fix it! I just happened to stumble across it. A Caerdydd man I presume. Skinsmoke (talk) 15:27, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Croeso! Correct, born and raised. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 19:33, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you![edit]

Thanks for all the work on the Andy Williams page. I've never heard of most of those nicknames. Ironically, "Emperor of Easy" is a name I've heard, I did read that in a British online periodical a couple of years ago, I think when his cancer was announced, but couldn't begin to tell you what it was, as I've long forgotten. 78.26 (talk) 20:46, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your appreciation. The info' box cannot remain with that silly list. Please read my first reply to Tvoz here, and her reply to my postscript regarding this issue.
Cheers!
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 21:02, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Agree with you and Tvoz. I quit reverting the infobox because I didn't want to violate 3rr. (It is so deceptively easy to do that!) Anyway, I did place a message on Rizan's page, but he/she ignored that, and then prompty re-added what had been removed (asking for sources) from the infobox. That is about 4rr for him/her. I'd like to resolve this without reporting him/her, as they probably have a reason for adding these, even though it is against consensus. Anyway, cheers! 78.26 (talk) 21:14, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Ah ok, and hello 78 - I'm going to take a look and see what's going on with this guy. This isn't ok. Cheers - and those waffles look damn good! (I spent a few days in Brussels last year, and they do know how to make waffles...) Tvoz/talk 04:24, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Mmmm ... maple syrup. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 04:30, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:GOCE September Copy Edit Contest[edit]

Thanks for submitting an entry for the September Copy Edit of the Month contest! Please take the opportunity to ask and answer questions there (I've given everyone the same starter question), and be sure to vote for a copy edit. Thanks.—Torchiest talkedits 02:50, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

For future reference, the copy editing should all take place during the month of the contest, but since you took only two weeks to do the edits, and completed them in September, I don't think it's a big issue this time. —Torchiest talkedits 03:05, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Good morning —Torchiest,
I appreciate your doing that. Copy-editing is my first choice when "working" with Wikipedia and I found The Guild only this August.
I have not had much time available during September due to "real life". Kind regards,
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 06:39, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

About template[edit]

Resolved
 – --ukexpat (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
A40 road (London)

I am struggling to add this to my about template which reads thus: This article is about the A40 in London For the road outside London, see the main A40 road article. For other uses, see A40 road (London) (disambiguation).

I don't want A40 road (London)... which of course appears as a redlink ... but A40 as the disambiguation.

My formatting is this: {{about|the '''A40''' in [[London]]. For the road outside London, see the main [[A40 road (Great Britain)|A40 road]] article}}

From where does the redlink come from? I can't understand how to add what I want to this template.

Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 16:55, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Postscript

The A40 road article has this ( i.e. not a template):

For other uses, see A40 (disambiguation), for details of the A40 in London, see A40 road (London).

-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 17:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones. You have new messages at WP:Help desk.
Message added 17:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

ukexpat (talk) 17:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

How about {{about|the A40 in [[London]]|the road outside London|A40 road (Great Britain)|other uses|A40 (disambiguation)}} which renders as:
or {{about|the A40 in [[London]]|the road outside London|A40 road (Great Britain)|other uses|A40}}
to avoid the redirect.--ukexpat (talk) 17:13, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Gosh! That was quick. Thank you for sterling service. Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 17:30, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
No problem, happy to help.--ukexpat (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Gallery[edit]

Wednesday
Once again, I must thank you for your help and instruction on formatting. The gallery looks great.
Thursday
I see that there are no references to size, either for the gallery or for the images. What determines the picture dimensions?
Cheers!
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 09:47, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones. You have new messages at Ukexpat's talk page.
Message added 15:12, 4 October 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

ukexpat (talk) 15:12, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Gareth, full syntax can be seen at WP:Gallery tag. Another way of doing it with more options is to use the {{Gallery}} template.--ukexpat (talk) 15:11, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
I am glad to have met you. Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 16:09, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

GOCE September 2012 drive wrap-up[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 41 people who signed up this drive, 28 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We achieved our primary goal of clearing July, August, September and October 2011 from the backlog. This means that, for the first time since the drives began, the backlog is less than a year. At least 677 tagged articles were copy edited, although 365 new ones were added during the month. The total backlog at the end of the month was 2341 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We completed all 54 requests outstanding before September 2012 as well as eight of those made in September.

Copy Edit of the Month: Voting is now over for the August 2012 competition, and prizes will be issued soon. The September 2012 contest is closed for submissions and open for voting. The October 2012 contest is now open for submissions. Everyone is welcome to submit entries and to vote.

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BRD enforcer[edit]

I've drafted out the proposal at User:Betty Logan/BRD enforcer#"Request for stable state" project proposal. Hopefully I've addressed any concerns people had, and this is the version that will go before the Wikiproject proposal committee. It's been streamlined a bit to focus on operation and the name has been changed, but other than that it's doing the same job. Anyway, this is a message I'm dropping on everyone's page so they can check it out and make sure they are ok with it. Betty Logan (talk) 22:58, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. It all seems okay with me. Let us hope that the committee give the go-ahead. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 10:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
The formal proposal is up and running at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Request for stable state. If you are still interested in supporting it you will need to add your name at the official proposal. Betty Logan (talk) 02:57, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Adding my support ...  Done -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 09:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Intersections[edit]

GGJ, I would like to inform You about the just added „Full Diamond Intersections” in . More details and examples will follow soon. Have a web translator service to handle the German language. --Hans Haase (talk) 02:46, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Excellent. Thanks for the link!
Although I passed my GCE "O level" German, I shall be using Google's excellent Translate since that was 54 years ago. Not spoken much Deutsch since. Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 06:09, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Amazing to read. And major internet services as the WMF can make the world become a large village. I was just testing the on google translator what returned me real funny garbage. It really was a little early recomendation from me. In the section are recently added sketches. Skaal! --Hans Haase (talk) 10:55, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Truly beautiful. I am most impressed.
Iechyd da! (that is Welsh) -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 15:40, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Reverts on Six Nations Championship[edit]

You reasons of Need a consensus first, before making so many radical changes to this well-established article makes no sense especially in light of the fact that you are the one that is making all the changes. You don't WP:OWN the article. And if they're so radical (whatever that means? And in what way exactly?), how come you seem to be including most of my edits except for the first paragraph. So what's the real issue then? Hmmm? --HighKing (talk) 13:53, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi - looks like the socks have found this and are out in force. I do not want to get involved and I'm sure you don't either. I'm not sure what the objection were to my edits. How's this for a compromise:
  • The six nations is actually the successor to the five nations. The five nations succeeded from the home championships.
  • It might not be obvious to readers the teams involved in the Home Champioships by saying "between the four British Isles teams". Can we agree to "between the four British Isles teams of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales"?
  • I cleaned up the Anthems section. Not sure why you reverted. If you explain we can perhaps see what to do.
Thanks. Peace. --HighKing (talk) 18:43, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Good evening HighKing,
Item 1 (above) – Concur.
Item 2 (above) – Concur.
Anthem section – I refer you to my revision here, agreeing with your changes regarding Ireland. I prefer the rest as it was. Can see no reason for your alterations here.
I am sure we can avoid a conflict. Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 19:08, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
I go along with those ideas but it should be the teams from the Home Nations. I mean that's why it was called the Home Championships after the fact that it was the teams from the Home Nations. Do you agree
@ Unsigned, As in the phrasing of Item 1 (above) -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 09:35, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Gareth. The anthem section was more of a style choice - just thought it looked neater to have the pertinent points alongside each national anthem. But your style if fine by me too. I'll leave editing to you though, if you don't mind, at least until the sudden appearance of socks has been dealt with. --HighKing (talk) 16:26, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
@ --HighKing, Sure! Glad to have "met" you. Happy editing! Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 09:35, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Postscript: Let us hope that this version will satisfy all involved and all concerned that we are concise and accurate

The Six Nations Championship ... is an annual international rugby union competition involving six European sides: England, France, Ireland, Italy, Scotland and Wales.

The Six Nations is the successor to the Home Nations Championship (1883–1909 and 1932–39) and the Five Nations Championship (1910–31 and 1947–99). The Home Nations Championship, played between the four British Isles teams of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales, was the first international rugby union tournament. The winners of the Six Nations Championship are also known as the European Champions.

Wales are the current title holders, winning each of its matches played during the 2012 Championship, to achieve a Triple Crown and Grand Slam.

-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 07:52, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

John Marley / Jack Woltz[edit]

There is a little problem there because I think the implication that he is a pedophile is only in the novel. Do I have that wrong? If it's not in the film, well, you know what I think about that. --Ring Cinema (talk) 16:38, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi! My memory is that it is implied in the film, but I shall check ... Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 17:48, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Ha! The images that I still have in my mind (obviously from reading the book years ago) are still so strong that I am wrong and you are correct. I have made the edit. Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 18:42, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
See, Wikipedia really works. Muchas gracias, senor. --Ring Cinema (talk) 19:06, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

WP:GOCE September Copy Edit Contest[edit]

Hi Gareth, I've asked a question of each editor here, please feel free to ask and answer questions, and take the opportunity to vote for any candidate.Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 07:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Will do ... but it will require some considerable thought ...
Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 08:18, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 17:08, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

GOCE fall newsletter[edit]

Fall Events from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in its events:

  • The October 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is currently in the submissions stage. Submit your best October copy edit there before the end of the month. Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on November 1 at 00:00 (UTC).
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JTBX's post at Editor assistance[edit]

You might want to have a look at this. I am not telling you whether or how you should respond, but I do think you should be aware of his one-sided version of events. Cheers! ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 16:37, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

I am resurrected[edit]

Hi Gareth, Thank you for your concern.
I simply made busy elsewhere during my period of "incarceration".
I acquired privileges in 3 other languages during the interval.
English Wikipedia is often an absurd place to be, where one is frequently being scolded by Mummy over trivial transgressions. "I am not punishing you; this is for your own good," says she.
Rubbish. Hoping you are in your usual contagious good spirits, Varlaam (talk) 16:57, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Ha! Risen from the tomb.
Excellent news re- the languages. I am impressed. How many is that now? I would imagine Welsh is still not included.
Biggest story (still running)here is the one behind this. As you will read, I have not lost my good humour.
All the best! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 17:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

MGB Greenhouse[edit]

Hi. You seem to have forgotten that was a common metaphor when cars were developing large windows but maybe you were too young . . . :) Eddaido (talk) 04:31, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

My - Gareth Griffith-Jones's - MGB GT exactly 42 years old. I wish I still was

Good morning Eddaido,
I wish! I bought my MGB GT Reg No TRO 707J brand new following the Earl's Court Motor Show in 1970. Colour: "Glacier white" Fitted with wire wheels and overdrive. I made only one modification and that was to have a Webasto sun roof fitted before delivery on November 5, 1970. So it is just about 42 years old. I was 28.
I still have it, and because I have always garaged it when not in use, it has still the original paintwork.
(I made the edit because I thought the term too out of date for the current reader)
Thanks for dropping by. What is your connection with MGs? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 06:50, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

VDO650 had red upholstery (and RHD)
Only photo of mine - Eddiado's - has me - Eddiado - in the middle of it

Good evening Gareth. My first MG was one of the first MGBs (1962) (possibly pre-production, certainly pre-announcement, I used to be able to recall the chassis number) acquired used in 1964, traded in in October 1967 for an MGCGT which, more than half paid for, didn't in the end arrive until almost the end of 1968 (stored outside in a factory carpark waiting for part(s) I've always suspected). Wish I could have afforded your high standard of loyalty. Knew I was a bit older than you but not all that much! All my Welsh farmers were in Monmouthshire. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 07:47, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

1908 Fritchle Victoria Phaeton - much like the namesake carriage

Hello, Thanks for the link to that Talk page and for my going here – "A Phaeton is a style of open car or carriage without proper weather protection for passengers ..." The 'wonder of Wikipedia' eh? Well if it is evening with you and it is now 09:55 hrs (GMT) then I guess you must be out there somwhere in the Pacific Ocean.
All the best, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 09:55, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I only wrote because I thought you were unfair to revert the IP's edit. I'd no idea WP actually had an article about it! and yes, sometimes we send coaches to Wales which is a bit of a variation on coals to Newcastle. Best wishes, Eddaido (talk) 10:40, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

We love him to bits. We want to keep him forever. I have been back to the MGB GT section and made a couple of revisions – do you approve? Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 10:48, 2 November 2012 (UTC) Postscript: Looking forward to the autumn tests in Cardiff. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 11:46, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Award[edit]

The Guild of Copy Editors' Award
Thanks for your submission to the September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month contest, and congratulations! For your work on I Could Fall in Love, please accept this award on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors. —Torchiest talkedits 13:28, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

A cupcake for you![edit]

Well done Gareth, it looks as though you're really getting into the copy-editing groove. I hope this yummy cupcake encourages you to stick around, WP needs skilled copy-editors like yourself. :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 07:07, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
It had something to do with your encouragement when I started on the article. Many thanks. Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 07:13, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

TY, Gareth, for cleaning up my posting on the Interchange Talk page. I then proceeded to eliminate your remark to preserve the continuity of the discussion. I hope that is OK by you. Yn gywir, --@Efrat (talk) 12:41, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Diolch am hynny! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 18:13, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

GOCE November 2012 copy edit drive update[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors November 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter

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  • The September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest was won by Baffle gab1978 for his copy edit of Expulsion of the Acadians. Runner up was Gareth Griffith-Jones for his edit of I Could Fall in Love. Congratulations to both.
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Indentation: User:Wavelength appears to not understand the discussion[edit]

I am curious to know how this revision of Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style, by you at 20:58, 14 November 2012, improves readability. Does the usefulness of "<br>", "<br />", "<p>", and "</p>" vary on different kinds of devices? Does Wikipedia have a page (or pages) explaining these things?
Wavelength (talk) 00:13, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

It helps the readability of the wikitext source code, and even the rendered page for visually-impaired users, to use proper XHTML coding. When you misuse "indentation" (actually list-formatting) markup like you were doing, it makes it hard to tell where one person's comments begin and another ends. Replies on talk pages are marked up with a : (or ::, etc., to show later indentation) at the beginning of a person's comment. These actually have semantic HTML meaning; each indicates a new, separate entry in the list of posts that the talk page consists of. This can make accessibility more difficult, by making it hard to determine what content is actually part of what post. Misapplying these list/indent codes to generate line breaks and new paragraphs within comments is messy, and confusing to later editors. Most of us just figure that over time, which is why most talk pages are formatted pretty well. The lazy way is a bad habit to get into, as it causes problems (requiring a total refactor) if regular : indents or * bullets are converted (e.g. to show a headcount in a poll or whatever) into autonumbering with #'s. The proper code <br /> generates a line break, and <p>...</p> delineates a new paragraph (<br />&;lt;br /> is a sloppy way to attempt this, and will be converted to a single <br /> by most browsers and devices). The usefulness of these codes does not vary by browser or device; they are basic XHTML, and work on all platforms that can read Wikipedia, from desktop Linux, Mac and Windows boxes to iPhones to Android tablets. I'm not aware of a page explaining this here, but I have not read the basic Help namespaces files on editing, formatting, etc., in years. They may or may not cover it. It's not a huge issue, anyway. Just something to be aware of, and which bored WP:GNOMEs like me will tweak when we come across code that needs fixing. PS: I started refactoring the indentation in the first place because someone replied to a :: comment with another :: comment instead of a :::, and everyone else's indentations were off by one after that through the entire thread; only noticed the misuse of indents for linebreaking half-way through. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contrib. 07:06, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Thank for your reply. I have carefully studied your explanations, and, wanting to be open-minded about opportunities for self-improvement, I have spent extra time in trying to understand your points. I agree that someone replied with the wrong degree of indentation and that every subsequent reply was off by one degree. However, I am unable to agree about "misuse" of markup, "misapplying … codes", and the "lazy way" and "a sloppy way" to show line breaks and new paragraphs". On the rendered page, I saw no difference in line breaks and paragraph starts. In the source code, I find it more difficult to find source codes in the midst of a "paragraph" of source text, than to see those separations made in the way that I was making them. Also, I do not expect that colon indentations or asterisk points would be converted to autonumbering with number signs. When there is a poll, there can be an instruction for respondents to use number signs to facilitate counting. I am unacquainted with the experience of visually impaired users using screen readers.
Wavelength (talk) 17:48, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
I am here to improve the encyclopedia, not engage in sport debate for my own entertainment. Life, including WP editing, does not require unanimity, and I do not need your agreement to know I'm right about this. If you want to keep using sloppy code that makes things difficult for other people, go right ahead; I'll continue to feel free to refactor. :-) I've already clearly explained that it's about the source code, not the rendered page, so this entire attempt at conversation is seeming pointless anyway. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contrib. 23:31, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Being a stickler for correct talk page indentation, I am fascinated. Your reply has explained clearly to me something that I have stumbled into only recently. I promise to never again use a : or, if appropriate, multiple colons in the same posting after the initial indentation. One question, is the position of the space important? I have been typing only "<br/ >" which seems to do the job, and never "<br>" ... indeed, is the space always required? Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 17:40, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
The <br> style is old 1990s HTML. The correct syntax in modern standards is <br /> (and the space does belong there). MediaWiki is smart enough to auto-correct <br>, <br/> and even the completely invalid </br> to <br /> by the time it hits the reader's browser, but WP content can be reused in any way people see fit, including copy-paste of source code into systems that don't have that feature, so it's always best to use correct, modern XHTML. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contrib. 22:08, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Perfectly clear. I am most obliged. It is a constant source of amazement to me how helpful and patient you are to those who have come to computers late in life. Best wishes, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 23:06, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Just for background, the <br> style was a mistake by the early developers of HTML. HTML was an implementation of SGML, and SGML requires that all elements be terminated either in <whatever>...</whatever> fashion, if they contain something, or <whatever /> style, if self-contained. The HTML developers forgot that in the early versions. The distinction became more important when XML was developed, and the Web moved to XHTML, a re-do of HTML as an XML implementation. XML, because it is intended to be machine-parsed, is much more strict about syntax than old SGML. Oh, and the space before the / isn't mandatory in XML, but leaving it off causes older browsers to fail to properly parse the code, so it's effectively required in <whatever /> constructions. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contrib. 23:14, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
I am so impressed. Your complete understanding makes me feel that I should learn more. Again, thank you. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 23:28, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
<blush> It's just geekery. I'm like the technological inverse of the little old lady who knows how to perfectly bake 47 kinds of cookies and cakes without bothering with the recipes any longer, but can't set the blinking 12:00 on her microwave or remember the difference between Star Wars and Star Trek. I know a whole lot about a little but only a little about a whole lot. I have enough brain cells left that I can pick up new topics and figure them out well enough for WP very quickly (lately it's the Meyers Manx dune buggy, for no particular reason other than the awfulness of the article bothered me), but lost enough of them that I drop topics pretty quickly and easily, too (I haven't touched Albinism, Albinism in humans, etc., in years because the once-stupid, wannabe-articles are now so journal-citing rigorous and medical/scientific they're beyond my competence unless I go to grad school.  ;-) Don't feel you need to learn more HTML; just absorb what you need to know to get the "job" done and not write "blecherous" bad code. It will all be obsolete eventually when future tools shield us more and more from the "guts" of the code and we write in more and more natural language.

I picture a future WP where, if and only if I did not want to use WYSIWYG editing effects/styles buttons & pop-up menus, I could as a "power user" begin an article something like ~bi~The Decline and Fall of Western Civilization~ is a ~ld~film~... and not only would that be the equivalent of what we now do as '''''The Decline and Fall of Western Civilization'''' is a [[Motion picture|film]]..., it would also not be visible as either form of such gobbledygook to anyone else editing unless they turned on a "show me the geeky bits" option (the short or long form, as they prefer), but otherwise render as more natural language in the source code, e.g. as The Decline and Fall of Western Civilization is a film... right in the editing window, much like how a word processor works, and of course would render as "The Decline and Fall of Western Civilization is a film..." in reading mode. I could see it as long-form wikimarkup – '''''The Decline and Fall of Western Civilization'''' is a [[Motion picture|film]]... if I chose to view it that way, but with a single click flip it back to the short ~bi~The Decline and Fall of Western Civilization~ is a ~ld~film~... version.

I am making up that "shorthand" on the fly as an example of simplified coding, where ~ would delimit a "New Wiki Markup" code block, in ~commands~content~ format [or somewhat longer ~command1~command2~content~~ form, when commands might need to be easily severable, but I digress...]. In the example, b meant "bold", i "italic", l "link", d "default meaning, if the link term is ambiguous" (i.e. first entry on the disambiguation page). At that level of abstraction, a blind user could use voice tone instead of ~ to indicate when markup began and ended. The underlying MediaWiki editing engine tech is advanced enough we could implement this in less than a year if there were enough will (i.e. community consensus on details, plus developer willingness to upgrade MediaWiki to do it)! Blah blah blah, I can ramble sometimes.
SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contrib. 22:22, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

I feel I have to mention that you have not closed your <blush> tag, so must still be blushing ~incoherent giggle~ Fiddle Faddle (talk) 10:38, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Leigh Halfpenny[edit]

Hi,

I changed his height from 5'8" to 5'10" which is his correct height according to the WRU and RBS 6N sites. The page seems to be back to 5'10" anyway now?

Thanks,

James Griffiths — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.136.24 (talk) 09:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi James!
Yes, I put it back to 5' 10" (click on this link) – thank you for spotting that the correction needed doing in the first place.
He is a remarkable young man. I have been following his progress with the Blues and Wales for a few years now. Are you a player?
Would be pleased to hear back from you and then I will explain why Wikipedia:STiki picked up on your revision. It was a good thing they passed it to a Wales supporter to deal with it.
All the best! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 10:43, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Subclasses of laptop[edit]

Hi, Gareth

I wanted to let you know that I reverted your change in Windows 8. The reason is succinctness. You see, Netbook is subclass of laptop. If it is a netbook, then it is a laptop too.

There is of course, a second reason: Not giving some of our certain visitors (cough!) a reason to start cramming other genres in. Surely we don't want a sentence that runs like "it runs on notebooks, subnotebooks, netbooks, slimbooks, ultraportables, ultrabooks, ruggedized laptops, Microsoft Tablet PCs, Tablet PCs and tablet computers." And believe me, they will do that if we let them feel it is appropriate. I am ready to bet they have never read WP:GACR.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 10:32, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello Codename Lisa,
Thanks for the heads up! Of course, you are correct. Actually, I added "notebook" – and now you have taught me another thing new – I had never heard of 'Netbook' before reading this. I have only recently upgraded to Windows 7, having been on XP four weeks ago.
Pleased to hear from you. Sincerely,
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:29, 11 August 2012 (UTC)::Hi again
XP? Wow! Actually, we have a venerable HP Mini 2140 netbook in our household that is still on XP Home Edition. Anyway, when I saw your original edit, I assumed you did not mean "desktops, laptops, laptops, tablets"; so, I thought you probably meant something beside a "full-sized laptop". I interpreted it to "netbook".
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 17:55, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
I imagine that you will be changing to Windows 8 as soon as it is available, won't you? For my part, I always let other people suffer the teething problems that invariably follow the launch of a new system. What are you using at present? -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:29, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Actually, I am a bit of late adopter in spite of being an enthusiast. I installed trials of Windows 2000, XP, Vista, 7 and 8 not long after they were released but I never adopted 2000, Vista or 8. XP and 7 were obvious winners. Best Regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 19:39, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Certainly not vandalism[edit]

Hello Gareth

I hope I am not bothering you, but I thought I'd better drop you a note about this edit. I felt that the sentence was queer, but vandalism? I certainly don't think so. It can be the effort of a small child attempting to write like adults.

In general, I have learned to think twice about calling an edit vandalism; and when I am certain that it is, I try to find an alternative reason for reverting it.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 11:38, 26 November 2012 (UTC

Good afternoon Lisa,
You could never be a bother as far as I'm concerned. Your comment above is valid: I should not have referred to the revision as an act of vandalism – I shall apologise on the IP's Talk page – although one wonders if they will notice it.
I am interested in your avoidance of the term when you are forced to deal with it.
Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 14:56, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Post script: See this edit.done! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 15:06, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Post post script:... and this -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 15:19, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello again. You are thorough. And it was very nice of you to have apologized. So, I guess it is all for the best in this case. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 12:23, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I feel that 'I should clear the air'...[edit]

Good afternoon Jeni,
I feel that 'I should clear the air' because it unsettles me to have bad feeling hanging around near me in Wikipediaworld.
You should understand that I was only trying to 'lighten things' with my edit summary on the M48 motorway article here when I quoted Max Boyce's famous expression.
Furthermore, I was, and still am, confused with this event. From that revision, I believed that Martin was in support of the removal.
I know he must have told you that I asked him to confirm this by my e-mailing him, and I must add that he has not made a reply of any description. I mean no harm. I am fairly new to Wikipedia and still have a lot to learn from well-established editors such as yourself.

Last night I rewrote The Route section. Perhaps you would like to comment on my copy-edit. I particularly appreciated your adding this ref. –
Sincerely,
-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 12:31, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Post script: On going through the recent history of my Talk page, I have seen for the first time the posts that you made on 28 November. It would appear that this addition by a child, User:Historygurl12345, caused the deletion Hence the mix-up with your reading [Please read this!
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 11:24, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

  • (talk page stalker) Jeni is offline. Some say she has a social life outside WP, but I'm suspicious. Anyway, I've had a look at your edit, and I can confirm that the M48 violates the standard motorway numbering rules as documented in National Archives File M112/67 ("Traffic signs on motorways and major roads proposed numbering of motorways") as authored by the Ministry of Transport, which I have camera copies of (somewhere). Per WP:SOURCEACCESS, this is acceptable, as all is required for verification is that a member of the public can access them, which you can if you can get to The National Archives (United Kingdom) in Kew and have suitable identification. Hope that's of use. --Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:12, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Your reply is more than just helpful. Thank you.
My argument is that as it is the original "zone boundary",
and as the Wales section follows the A48,
and as it is a loop leaving and returning to the M4 motorway,
it is correctly numbered.
I also value your replying to me yesterday regarding the A41/A1 in London.
Cheers!  – Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 19:34, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm here... just! Just nowhere near as active as I used to be! You have nothing to worry about Gareth, sometimes disagreements happen on this wonderful world that we call Wikipedia!
Ritchie, how dare you suggest that I have a life ;-) I lost it somewhere, I think I left it on a train to Paignton the other day! Jeni (talk) 10:06, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Good morning Jeni,
Ha, ha! This Wikipediaworld is a great deal better for me today, since reading your reply.
I replied to Ritchie on his Talk page yesterday and copied it here (above) for you to comment on, if you would be so kind. –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 11:11, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Post script: this is a great improvement. –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 11:28, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

GOCE November drive wrap-up[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors November 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

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Re-naming an article[edit]

Thank you for renaming the article the A40 road in London – much better. I should be much obliged if you would point me in the direction of how to do that action. Cheers!{
– Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 5:48 am, 4 December 2012, Tuesday (23 days ago) (UTC+0)

At the top of each page is a tab that says Move. Click on that and follow the instructions. There is advice and information at Wikipedia:Moving a page. As a tip, if you want to find out some information about doing things on Wikipedia, you can use the search function, but putting "WP:" in front of your search term. So WP:Rename page will take you to the right place. If you are unable to move the page because your target page already exists, then you need to get an admin to delete the target page, or ask at Wikipedia:Requested moves. If you feel the move might be questioned, then it's best to go via Wikipedia:Requested moves anyway. SilkTork ✔Tea time 8:46 am, 4 December 2012, Tuesday (23 days ago) (UTC+0)
Ah, yes – where I go to use auto ed & Purge. Thank you very much for that! I appreciate your help. I shall copy your post for future reference. Cheers! – Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 1:26 pm, 4 December 2012, Tuesday (23 days ago) (UTC+0)
In the interest of teaching a man to fish, you can rename a page (technically called moving it) by going to the page and clicking on the "Move" link; this will be in the menu marked with a down arrow in the top-right corner, next to the search bar, if you're in the normal Wikipedia skin. If you're using Monobook, then it should be one of the tabs in the right corner. This will take you to the move page screen, where you can type in the new title and an edit summary; be sure to look at the namespace selector next to the title field, using "(Article)" for the main article space. There are some other checkbox options; they can be useful in certain situations, but the default should be fine for most main article space moves. Keep in mind that the move process will also create a redirect at the old title, pointing to the new one; admins have the option to suppress creation of this redirect, but non-admins do not, so if the redirect makes no sense to have, you need to mark it for speedy deletion with something like the {{db-g6}} (uncontroversial housecleaning or maintenance) tag. Thanks! Writ Keeper 14:12, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

PCW: Second anniversary in this Wikipediaworld[edit]

Helleborus niger ... an early Christmas card for 'Pale Clouded White'

As Virgil wrote: Sed fugit interea fugit irreparabile tempus, singula dum capti circumvectamur amore
I always remember your considerable assistance in my early days here.  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 11:33, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Ah, at last, a bit of real "cultcha" to elevate the general tone here. Roman poets are GO!!!. But happy anniversary again, anyway, PCW. Yours, Mr Ed, the talking pantomime horse.
  • Congratulations on your longevity in Wikipedia, oh venerable one! Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:39, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


Many thanks for all your kind words, they are appreciated. It's nice to hear from you again Gareth (I thought maybe my uncouth tendencies had previously sent you fleeing). I used google to "translate" your quotation from the Latin; it came back with "But meanwhile it flees irreparable period of time, while we, charmed with love of each of the". This is, I'm sure you agree, a 'quality' rendering which, amongst others, might amuse Sminthopsis84, who I know has experience of mopping up after bad translations! Mr Ed, I have had a word with someone who knows Tony very well, and have been reassured that General Tone (as he is more formally known) looks forward to being lowered here again in the future, haha! PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 17:09, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Good job you didn't mean someone else who knows Tony very well... no, hang on, that was St Tone, wasn't it, not Gen. But great to see a classic equine band like Hot Lips get a mention here. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:24, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Not at all, PCW. You have always remained on my radar
Good old Google ... and now being scrutinised for cheating on the their PAYE, eh?
Now, how about this,"But meanwhile it flees: time flees irretrievably, while we wander around, prisoners of our love of detail."  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 20:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Now there's a genuine 1960s Prog Rock Groundbeaker to be reckoned with!! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:31, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Thankyou Gareth. I've sent you a bird with a bit more meat on it, haha! PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:39, 25 December 2012 (UTC).
Thank you! He is splendid. I have replied fully here –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 08:12, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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Change to 'Soul'[edit]

Hi Gareth,

Thanks for your note - the change is actually crucial, there is no mention of the soul in the Old Testament / Torah and so any discussion of the Hebrew terms must make it clear that the words translated into the word 'soul' in English do not mean 'soul'. The 'soul' was a Greek concept added to Christianity & Judaism after 300AD. Let me know if you need more detail.

My best,

Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.210.139 (talk) 09:40, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Good morning, Thank you Dan for your kind explanation on my Talk page this morning.
I have restored your revision. Please leave a note when you see this to let me know.
Sincerely,  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 10:19, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Received - many thanks Gareth.
My best,
Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.210.139 (talk) 10:36, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! I shall copy this to the article Talk page to back up our editing. –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 10:54, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Golden retriever[edit]

Thank you Gareth - the very same good wishes to you! Tvoz/talk 17:41, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

IP:131.251.254.19[edit]

If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make the edit, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.
Stop hiding behind an internet provider address and then I shall 'talk' – until then I have nothing to discuss with you –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 09:56, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Gareth has no obligation to respond to anyone, Mr IP, registered or unregistered. I'd just leave it if I were you. And Gareth, you should request semi-protection for your userspace if you dont want anonymous IPs posting here anymore. Jon C. 10:32, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you Jon. That is good advice. Cheers!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 10:54, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

List of The Sopranos characters[edit]

Good luck on your work on this article! It has been a bloated mess for quite some time. I had a go at some parts of it quite a while back, but eventually gave up. Many of the character biographies are complete recapitulations of various episode summaries, which is excessive and silly. Clearly, the fanboys have been at it. And, as you pointed out, much of the writing is dreadful. But, as Pauly said, "On it goes, this thing of ours." Cheers! ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 14:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld award[edit]

Please assist. 7&6=thirteen () 16:12, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Some of our esteemed editors are quick on the accusations, but short on proofs. Your independent judgment and opinion was expected. Dr. B's accomplishments stand on their own, and Jimbo recognized that. 16:56, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Driver's license[edit]

Not sure why you reverted me. Yes, IP:90.217.167.11 switched to correct British English, but the article is written in American English, look at the article title. I reverted the IP per WP:ENGVAR. I was reverting back to your own version 527417088 (plus a minor inconsequencial edit by IP:67.165.14.217.) If I have missed something, let me know. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 19:35, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

You are correct about the article title ... put it down to a poor night's sleep last night. Sorry.
Cheers!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 19:58, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
No worries, been there, done that. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 20:16, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar for True Grit[edit]

Thanks. It is much appreciated. Happy Holidays. :-) Nightscream (talk) 14:54, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you[edit]

Barnstar of good taste
Your contributions are invaluable. Your dazzling diligence deserves a delectable Dobos torte. 7&6=thirteen () 19:24, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

The bowl is back in the box[edit]

Well done Chris. Haven't seen that one {{-}} before.
@ 7&6=13, I thanked Chris on your page
Great photo
Cheers to you both! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 20:53, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

I thanked Chris on his page, and he put it amidst his barnstar collection. I think that more civility and empathy would go a long way to making this place better. Editing should not be a lonely business, but should be a collaborative avocation. I could whine about the state of things, but preaching will do no good. One needs to lead by example and implement The Golden Rule. 7&6=thirteen () 21:00, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Holidays![edit]

Happy Yuletides!

Merry Yuletides to you! (And a happy new year!) Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 03:12, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Holiday tidings[edit]

Wishing you the Peace of the season
May you and your family have a joyful time of peace and friendship and a prosperous New Year. 7&6=thirteen () 03:32, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the lovely message[edit]

and a happy holidays to you too! Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 04:52, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Greetings![edit]

Thanks very much Gareth - and the same to you and yours. With all good wishes, DBaK (talk) 08:33, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

It's Christmas for me[edit]

It's Christmas for me. Thanks, Gareth. I hope you have a great one yourself (and as a nice buzzard, please don't scoff that Robin :) --Stfg (talk) 09:34, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Ha, ha! That's witty. I like it. Christmas for me too –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 10:52, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Dymuniadiau gorau y tymor[edit]

Thank you for your solstice, or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus, and/or Saturnalia wishes. May I be the first on Wikipedia to wish you 'Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda'. Daicaregos (talk) 10:34, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Croeso :) Daicaregos (talk) 10:42, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Just for the record ... I am now a 'Reviewer'[edit]

@ Ks0stm Many thanks! –
 –  – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:01, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

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 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:55, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the ecumenical greeting[edit]

Gan ddumuno iechyd a hapusrwydd i chi yn 2013. 7&6=thirteen () 11:55, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

See Winter Solstice. You've got a long way to go for "comprehensive." 7&6=thirteen () 12:26, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
  • So it seems. Hmmm ... but who was it who introduced, "... the ecumenical greeting"?
    Synonyms: all-comprehensive, all-inclusive, all-pervading, catholic, comprehensive, cosmic, cosmopolitan, global, inclusive, planetary, unifying, universal, worldwide
     –
     – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 13:39, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
I plead guilty. We could also have called it a "catholic" greeting with a small "c". Words are such fun. 7&6=thirteen () 13:45, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Such fun! 'Ambiguate catholic' indeed! We don't want Mrs. Bot on our necks again this morning, do we? Oh what the hell, why not? Here's another for her to moan on and on about. Martin, You will appreciate this one when you get round here for our lunchtime glass or two of Cab Sauv:-
BTW Stan, your Welsh is coming on leaps and bounds –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 14:16, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

My Welsh is limited to that which is easily recoverable on the internet. The last greeting was taken from a portion of an article that ended in the phrase "in 2001." Except for the UP (which had a large immigrant population of Welsh and Cornish miners), we do not have many self identified Welshman in the area that I know of. They were, however, the bestowers of the Pasty, which is found in local cuisine. You should try them, they are great ... 7&6=thirteen
(edit conflict)... I beg to differ. Not a Welsh dish. You may be thinking of other areas settled by Cornish miners ... parts of south Wales. –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 14:23, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Gwin gwyn yn unig i mi, diolch! Martinevans123 (talk) 14:34, 21 D2012 (UTC)
White! Really? Fizz? –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 14:55, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Naturellement, bien sûr, mon ami.. or failing that, some meths in an old tin cup would probably do ... or, failing that, warm Lambrini in a paper cup. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:08, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
On top form as always, Martin. Discerning links that never fail to impress. –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 19:03, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

You cheated death again[edit]

The enduring editor barnstar
We could all have celebrated Winter Solstice, too. Play the link on December 22, 2012. Welcome to the 14th b'ak'tun. 7&6=thirteen () 12:08, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
It's the end of the world as we know it. Good video - not my taste in music though –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 15:06, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Just played the music video by R.E.M. performing It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine) (2003 Digital Remaster) for the second time, and just read , "Play on December 22 ..." Oh, crumbs. –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 23:42, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Another predicted apocalypse has now officially fizzled. We're still here. 2012 Mayan apocalypse and 2012 phenomenon. 7&6=thirteen () 00:23, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Aahh it all makes sense now including Martin's posting at 00:02 hrs. GMT here –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 00:37, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

God Jul och Gott Nytt År![edit]

And there will probably not be any apocalypse next year either.Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:09, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Re- Greetings[edit]

Thanks. :) Debresser (talk) 12:33, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Greeting![edit]

Diolch yn fawr. A nadolig llawen a blwyddyn newydd dda i chdi eto :o) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 02:32, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Hyderaf eich bod wedi cael Nadolig da. Mae'r datgeliadau am Margaret Thatcher a'r Falklands, yn enwedig yr apêl olaf-ffos gan Ronald Reagan i Margaret Thatcher i roi'r gorau i'r ymgyrch i ail-sefyll y Falklands, yn newyddion anhygoel ... Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard13:24, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Saturnalia[edit]

  • Aww, thanks so much! Happy holidays to you, too! (Saturnalia is my personal favorite :D) Maryana (WMF) (talk) 19:07, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Happy[edit]

Season's Greetings, Gareth Griffith-Jones!
At this wonderful time of year, I would like to give season’s greetings to all the fellow Wikipedians I have interacted with in the past! May you have a wonderful holiday season!
MarnetteD | Talk 20:52, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Also best wishes for your 2013 and happy editing whenever possible :-) MarnetteD | Talk 20:52, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Your message[edit]

Thank you so much. Best wishes! ~~ Peteb16 (talk) 01:47, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Reply from South Africa[edit]

Watsonia tabularis 11
Edmondia unidentified
Pelargonium unidentified tuberous-rooted

Hi Gareth, my wife and I loved your message and loved the robin (just ached to offer him a mealworm!) I wondered about selecting a pic to post in return. I was out on a local mountain in some blistering weather a couple of days ago, with a stiff breeze keeping beasties' heads down, so I thought I would try for a few nice flowers. Hope you find a few of them cheering to look at in what I presume would be your currently seasonal weather! Warmest greetings, JonRichfield (talk) 19:48, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

  • I certainly do. I am now about to copy 'n' paste your delightful reply to my Talk.
    All the best to you and your beloved –
     – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 01:55, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you! Thanks![edit]

Thanks a lot! A Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you as well! Cheers mate!

Anir1uph | talk | contrib 02:37, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your Seasonal greeting[edit]

Thank you. We're spending Christmas in the south of France where the Sun is shining! SilkTork ✔Tea time 08:34, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Nadolig hapus!![edit]

Season's tidings![edit]

To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 13:53, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Musician's credit added, courtesy of my great pal, the brilliant humourist, Martin

lol, "lame-pun-king and general malingerer", more like. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:12, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Ha, ha! BTW did you ever get to look at this over in Sweden on Gråbergs Gråa Sång (Talk page) dated,15:32, 21 December 2012? –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 00:28, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
A gem. I only wish I had a copyright-free version for use on my Talk Page! Nos da for now. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:46, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

You rock, Gareth![edit]

  • You rock, Gareth! Hope you have an awesome week, Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year. Your work on Wikipedia is appreciated. And your kindness is a welcome breath of fresh air. Again, hope you have a Merry Christmas. You deserve the best that Santa can bring! Cindy(talk to me) 17:58, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Yuletide[edit]

Thank you Gareth, Happy Yuletide, hope you have a lovely holiday :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:40, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Sincere greetings[edit]

Nadolig Llawen[edit]

...a blwyddyn newydd dda! Deb (talk) 12:46, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

... Pa ar gyfer fy di-Gymraeg eu hiaith-(Stalker dudalen sgwrs) s yn golygu"Merry Christmas and ... happy new year!
Thank you Deb! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 17:12, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

re: Greetings![edit]

Thanks! You too! — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contrib. 00:11, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your encouragement this year. I like your signature. Cheers –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 00:50, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
It's the Terminator. I have a subpage around here somewhere with other face ASCIIart. I try to remember to use a different one each year, so I'll let the Terminator go pretty soon. — SMcCandlish   Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ   Contrib. 22:21, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. Cheers! Have a terrific day! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 09:23, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks-[edit]

Many thanks for the Christmas greeting. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!RFD (talk) 12:16, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Festivus[edit]

Thanks for the suggestions! I mostly do Christmas, but perhaps I'll mix and match some other stuff this year. —Torchiest talkedits 02:44, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Ha, ha! Christmas is more than enough for me too. I hope you enjoy the holiday –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 02:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
Happy Festivus!
Here's wishing you a happy Festivus!
May you emerge victorious from the Feats of Strength,
may your list of Grievances be short,
and may your days be filled with Festivus Miracles.
Torchiest talkedits 14:00, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


Season's greetings[edit]

I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas, and here's hoping for plenty of book vouchers. FruitMonkey (talk) 21:22, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

Hello Gareth:

Thanks for your message.

My best wishes to you for a Merry Christmas and a great 2013.

Wanderer57 (talk) 22:30, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Ditto[edit]

Seriously, I really mean exactly the same thing the comment above stated. . --Lexein (talk) 08:10, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Ha,Ha! Of course, I knew that. Have a lovely day! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 13:31, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

A brownie for you![edit]

Merry Christmas Gareth, how did you know I had a dog though O_O. Scary. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:33, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


He answers, "Scary version?" *See the note following signature/date—pause—"... Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – sees all" –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 12:10, 25 December 2012 (UTC) – Your Christmas quiz question:- "From which film?"

Bourne Supremacy?Darkwarriorblake (talk) 12:27, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Good! (very close) It was the first, "The Bourne Identity" –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 13:26, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


Season's greetings[edit]

Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas 2012!

Happy New Year and all the best in 2013!

Thanks for all you do here,

and best wishes for the year to come.
Ruhrfisch ><>°° 13:42, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! All the best! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 14:26, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy holidays[edit]

Happy Holidays!
From the frozen wasteland of Nebraska, USA! MONGO 12:15, 25 December 2012 (UTC) (the Nebraska Turkey Vulture!)


Why thank you kind sir! Puppies are always welcome!--MONGO 19:19, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm certain the pup will be cherished –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 19:21, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid it ate the robin....[edit]


Hello Gareth. Thank you for your seasonal greeting on my talk page

a few days back. Apologies for my tardiness in responding, I'm afraid

I succumbed to a bout of "low mood" that rendered me unable to engage

with fellow members of the species for a few days (don't be too

concerned - it's a condition I'm prone to pop in and out of...).

Anyway, I couldn't find a genuine Welsh buzzard with which to decorate

your talk page (you perhaps wouldn't want the competition anyway), so

here's an Upland Buzzard instead, looking quite grand.

Best wishes for the rest of "the season",

PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:31, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Good morning PCW,

Never mind, the buzzard needs all the help on offer. I am sad about the robin though ... "tooth and claw" and all that ...
One of the best things about this extraordinary, crazy, Wikipedian existence – no, it is the best one – is that we have the privilege of forming sincere relationships with a small number of individuals dotted all over several continents of whom we would never even have heard mentioned. You are one of these that I respect profoundly.
I was saddened to note our loss in Wikipediaworld of Nadia (do you remember my asking you about "dashes" when I was very much a 'new boy'? This was only my second experience of friendly lurkers – you were my first.

I am in accord with you over the need for solitude. I empathise fully.

I am thrilled with your Upland Buzzard. Certainly my best Christmas present. He shall have pride and honour at the top of both pages once "the decorations come down."
 –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 06:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Replying from Sicilia[edit]

Thank you Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – ,
what a nice surprise! Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to you too.!
  M aurice   Carbonaro  16:47, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Ha,ha! I am glad to please you. What a wonderful signature, Maurice!
Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 17:13, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Big Steve[edit]

Girl with the Dragon Tattoo[edit]

Not 'niece' – 'greatniece'

Good evening Deb,
Good revision of the film. Just want to pick you up on one point.
May I refer you to this post - my copy of one that I made on User talk:Trappist the monk thirteen months ago.
I have had cause to use it several times since when other editors have made the same mistake as Trappist. Indeed I have noticed him using it himself to advise other editors.
Today I have not changed it back as it might appear churlish.
iechyd a lwc dda i chi ac yn eich blwyddyn annwyl nesaf –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 20:55, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Dear Gareth, I thought twice about this. However, I only watched the film this afternoon for the first time, and one of the differences from the book is that Henrik refers to his three brothers - Harald, Richard and Gottfried. Harriet is Gottfried's daughter, making her Henrik's niece. In the novel, the relationship is different. Deb (talk) 22:14, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your prompt reply, Deb. I watched the film first, some time during the Autumn of 2011, and then bought the three books. It is always tiresome when filmmakers alter an original story to suit their need for brevity. Obviously you are correct with regard to what this film tells us about the relationship. Even in the novel it becomes a little confusing as Henrik oscillates between greatniece and niece, but of course, to do that is normal family practice, isn't it?
Would you want to edit the "great-uncle" towards the end of the summary?
Sincerely –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 22:30, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Oops, I missed that one. Diolch. Deb (talk) 22:35, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Nos da, Deb –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 22:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Dear Deb,
Diolch yn fawr – I like what you have just added. Hoffwn i chi i gyd y gorau ar gyfer 2013!
Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 17:30, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Glad you approve! Blwyddyn Newydd Dda again. Deb (talk) 17:38, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Just in case ...[edit]

Thank you! He is splendid. I have replied fully here – – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 8:12 am, 26 December 2012, last Wednesday (3 days ago) (UTC+0)

Just in case you missed my reply higher up the page -
Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 09
24, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello Gareth, you are a very conscientious editor, and always very polite - I think you'd make a very good ambassador for Wikipedia (though if you were to take up such a post, you'd probably have to watch some of your gossipy tendencies, haha!). I had indeed read your reply - thankyou for your enthusiastic and full response. I hope you can make allowances for my rather random approach to editing - I tend to flit about, and get sidetracked down little avenues of interest - which means that I don't always follow threads in a diligent manner. (Also, speaking more generally, I spend most of my time just trying to earn a living - often leaving little energy left for Wikipedia). If I don't reply to postings, please be assured it's not because I've dismissed them, but rather because either 1) I'm knackered or 2) my attention's been snagged by something else, or 3) a combination of the two. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 12:05, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Ha, ha! I appreciate your kind pronouncementn. I do enjoy the trivial threads that we have enjoyed over the past year, although the appalling weather must have made following your profession something of a tribulation. I can easily believe you have been feeling "ready for the knacker’s yard" - Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 13:04, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Merchandise giveaway[edit]

A Tshirt!
I thought that you deserved something a bit extra for all of the amazing work you've done for the project.
You've been nominated for a gift from the Wikimedia Foundation!

7&6=thirteen () 23:15, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

And a Happy New Year to you, too. 7&6=thirteen () 23:28, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

GOCE 2012 Annual Report[edit]

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Happy new year![edit]

Yr un i chi! i ddeall yr hyn a ddywedasoch! Diolch i Google Translate! Hahahaha! --Anir1uph | talk | contrib 19:01, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Golden Gate Gales[edit]

ya that ok ...it just seemed that there was not enough info re the golden gate gales...sorry it wasnt constuctive...but several players mentioned are part of wikipedia s cover on pro soccer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.136.192.120 (talk) 00:07, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Good morning IP:50.136.192.120,
  • Thank you for your note on my Talk page last night.
  • It is not so much non-constructive but non-encyclopaedic.
  • Your list of names is not a list and needs copy-editing to make it into one.
  • preferably with bullet points, as I have done in this reply to you.
  • Given names and surnames require capital letters ("big letters")
  • Really, citations are required.


I hope this helps. I will help you more with it should you want assistance. Please leave a note here when you have read this
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 10:49, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Catscan working[edit]

Just wanted to leave a note that Catscan has been working correctly for a few days now, in case anyone completely gave up on using it. —Torchiest talkedits 18:23, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

... and we use that for ..?
And if I wanted to use Catscan, where would I access it? Thanks –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 18:30, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Here. It's a very handy and fun tool; I use it for stuff outside of the copy editing drives, but it can help to organize the copy edit categories in lot of different ways depending on what you want to do. There are some basic instructions here, but I can probably answer more detailed questions if you have any. —Torchiest talkedits 18:58, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for this comprehensive reply. I look forward to trying it –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 19:04, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Hey, glad you appreciated my addition to the Shawshank Redemption entry! I like to think my edits are at least somewhat constructive/helpful. Thanks so much also for the welcome! Yeah, I've actually had this account for awhile (about a year at this point), and I figured it was time to add some information about me, so that people would actually get somewhere when they clicked on my username. Anyway, I've become a real Wikipedia fiend these days! Really enjoy editing a variety of entries, and I also enjoy getting to interact with fellow Wikipedians like yourself. I feel like I'm part of this big community now.

Anyway, thanks again. Take care!

-Matt (RockNWrite82)

Cheers Matt! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:12, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year, GG-J[edit]

Thank you for your Geetings, I found them late. I was busy on german articles like Gustl Mollath. It appears germany owns itself the luxury of holding a political prisoner, locked in forensic hospitals due insider knowledge of money laundering and blackmoney transfers, while the limitation period to sue all the facts expired. A secret report of the banks internal revision no. 20546 from 2003, pubished in 2011 confirmed "all accusations have been found as true". While the news come out in parts like "slices of the salami sausage" due personal rights. "A complete revison of the case would be a good advice for the general attorney" the bavarian prime minister Seehofer said after a two months crisis management and back holden informations of his ministeress of justice Beate Merk. (In Germany politics and the general attorney are strictly separated, but under revision and some leaks in the law) - swabian special form of trumpet intersections.

--Hans Haase (talk) 00:13, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi! guten morgen Hans,
Das ist faszinierend und außergewöhnlich.
"Diolch yn fawr. Hoffwn i chi i gyd y gorau ar gyfer 2013!!"
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 11:12, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Martin Scorsese[edit]

As I wrote when I made the edits, what I removed from the "Director Trademark" portion of the Martin Scorsese page were items that aren't within the purview of a director, and therefore cannot be a "director trademark". A director doesn't choose to begin a story in medias res, the screenwriter does. The director doesn't write the moral ambiguity of a character, the screenwriter does. Leaving these in the article is a slight against the screenwriters who actually made those decisions. At the very least it needs rewording. Perhaps, "Scorsese often films scripts that begin in medias res" and "Scorsese often chooses screenplays with morally ambiguous characters". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.135.40.248 (talk) 03:27, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Thank you for the above post. I have re-instated your editing following this explanation.
    Please leave a note here when you have read this.
    Cheers! –
     – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 08:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Third Reich[edit]

Hi. The flag of Germany in 1937 was the swastika. Like you, I completely disapprove of it but the fact is that it was the national flag of Germany at the time. Personally I find the use of flag icons OTT and one of the drawbacks is that, for articles to be correct when these are deployed, some very distasteful icons have to displayed. I've corrected the skiing article, reluctantly. --86.139.13.7 (talk) 10:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for putting me right on this one, and thank you for re-instating your editing.
Completely agree with you on the use of the national flag icons.
Please leave a note here when you have read this –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 14:01, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi, thanks. All the best. --86.139.13.7 (talk) 15:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

The Fugitive[edit]

Mr Griffith, I'm not sure if you saw my detailed response on the talk page of The Fugitive regarding the Plot section a couple of days ago. Are you in agreement that we can proceed with those more concise changes keeping the basic structure intact? I'm not sure if you viewed my suggestions. Moovi (talk) 4:47, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Mr. Moovi,
It is coming up to 05:00 hrs. GMT here ... Midnight with you? –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 04:57, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes, it's midnight here. Moovi (talk) 5:00, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Okay, may I suggest we take one at a time ... starting tomorrow. Let the dust settle.
There is no need for haste.
Regards –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 05:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Ok. Moovi (talk) 5:08, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
I await your response to the Plot section. Can we get to a compromise that the changes proposed are for the benefit of the article? Can we proceed with the improvements? Moovi (talk) 1:51, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
My response is above [05:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)] –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 04:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Oh, ok. Well I'm sorry. I misunderstood that particular response. Ok, I'll slowly improve it then, when I get a chance. Moovi (talk) 5:26, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Template:Communities of Cardiff[edit]

Regarding this edit, it is part of a larger effort to add documentation to navboxes. I have been doing about a thousand templates a week for about a year as part of the effort. The code for the tool I use to make these edits en masse was written by Frietjes (talk · contribs). He can better explain the purpose than I.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:37, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Herts[edit]

I merely wish to point out that I have been maintaining the article to its long-established state. Your edit summary today appears to chastise me –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 18:21, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I checked the history and reverted myself. Simply south...... walking into bells for just 6 years 18:33, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
Ha, ha! Just seen your reversion of your first revision. Thank you for that and for replying over on my Talk page –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 18:28, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Hertfordshire[edit]

Good morning AnemoneProjectors,
Thank you for throwing some common sense (uninvited?) onto this absurd wrangle.
I have only one point to address to you, and that is, my initial involvement was to revert a *bold*, thus restoring the status quo and this was subsequently endorsed by Simply south here
Sincerely –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:18, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

That's ok. I'm not sure there was actual edit warring going on but it did look like it, I saw the interchange of England and United Kingdom a few times. I think it's settled now. I really only wanted to reply to the "avoiding redirect" comment that User:Govvy made, because that's one of my pet peeves on Wikipedia. –anemoneprojectors– 11:21, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your swift reply. I agree with you re- the above.
Sincerely –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:27, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

GOCE mid-drive newsletter, January 2013[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors January 2013 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter

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wikiproject television[edit]

hiya, i would help you but i am tied down bringing a article up to FA and i have a lot of stuff on in my personal life, once you start a discussion i will certainly reply to it just give me a link to the discussion. you need to take it to the wikiproject:television as they are the head of the project tree on television articles Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 00:13, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I shall keep you posted, Andrew, and "good luck" with your FA –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 07:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 Done

Good to see a fellow Land Rover enthusiast[edit]

Thanks for the award. Good to see a fellow Land Rover enthusiast. I don't have one at the moment, but in the past I have owned a Series I which I always regretted selling. I also Series IIa like yours, but it was a former motorway recovery vehicle so it had a f**k-off big Perkins diesel in it, hardened diffs, permanent 4wd and air brakes! It could climb up or tow anything. It's a shame they removed the hook otherwise I could have had amazing fun with it. Then I had a LWB Series III County Station Wagon. Later on I got seduced by the Disco - had a couple of those. But then I discovered bikes and the rest is a different story.... --Biker Biker (talk) 20:05, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Saturday 2 February:[edit]

Just for your amusement Cheers!
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 07:44, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Love it - and I will be there ----Snowded TALK 08:02, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks[edit]

Hi GG-J. Thanks for the link - it is fun. Your message is also a fun coincidence as just last night I was thinking that we were getting to the time of year for the Six Nations. Thus I went and checked the BBC America schedule and the only fixture they have listed so far is England v Scotland on Feb 2nd. I'll keep my fingers crossed that we get a least one of Wales matches before the end of the tourney. Best of luck to them and you and cheers!! MarnetteD | Talk 20:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply.
I recall your telling me last year that BBC America only show one of the three matches per weekend – and it is usually the England game. All the best!< /> – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 01:23, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi again. Rats to the rough start. I checked the US schedule today and we get to see Wales v France next Saturday so I'll be cheering along with ya even though several 1000 miles will be in between. Enjoy your week. MarnetteD | Talk 08:26, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Good morning America! Glad to hear about next weekend.
Wales was magnificent after Ireland's last score. Towards the end I even believed we were going to snatch a victory ... but the final score is 22 – 30
For my part, I am an unhappy Welshman; if Wales had played half as well in the first half as they played in the second, it would have been a resounding victory. With a score of 3 – 23 at the break, it appeared to be a disaster. Three minutes into the second half and the score was 3 – 30, then Wales went on fire and Ireland were, for most of the time, losing the plot entirely.
Final score 22 – 30
So, we will have neither Grand Slam nor Triple Crown this year.
All the best!Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 09:15, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Post script: Should be good in Paris on Saturday following —this cracking game—both teams having lost their opening match.
Are the broadcasts live or shown at a later time? - Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 19:03, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the details about the way the game unfolded. We get to see them live so the upcoming game will be at 10 am our time. I'm looking forward to it. Cheers and have a great week. MarnetteD | Talk 19:25, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

That is more like it!![edit]

A tough defensive struggle is capped off by a wonderful try. Hope that makes your Saturday more enjoyable. In the game we got last weekend the official/ref/ump (sorry I don't know which one is correct) was miked. I liked that as it helped in my learning more of the ins and outs of the game. Enjoy the rest of your weekend! MarnetteD | Talk 18:55, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Terrific courage and self-belief—I am so proud. Yes, we have that option to listen in on the referee's mike rather than hear the commentators, by using the "red button", a service offered by the BBC. Does that make any sense to you? The match official is the guy "in the car park" (U.S. parking lot) who has overall control and judges the video replays of uncertain tries scored. I am glad you enjoy rugby. Here is a souvenir for you. Hoping you too have a great weekend. Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 20:32, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the link. So it was the referee that was miked last week. You could occasionally hear him in today's game but that was only when he was close to the field mikes. We have something similar to the red button. It activates the "video descriptive service." I don't have many cable channels that use it but I know that if I had a "dish" instead that those companies offer more versatility for that button. After those losses in a row I hope that this game means that the team have righted their ship and will experience more success in the rest of the tourney!! Road trips to both France and Italy means that the fans got to eat well :-D Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 20:53, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

2013 Six Nations Championship‎[edit]

Good evening Jon,
He seems a good chap; now to play for Wales
Hope all is well with you –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 21:11, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello Gareth -- Nice to hear from you! Yes, we are well, and with a lot less snow than some I have heard tell of...  ;-)

As for Andries, to go by his picture, he looks as though he might be better met off the field than on it, once he gets down to business!

Still, anyone ready to sing alongside the Welsh deserves my respect; I couldn't even dream of it! For one thing some of the most passionate passages of traditional Welsh songs move me close to tears, which does nothing for one's ability to carry a tune, even if one has the ear, which I certainly do not.

Incidentally, I think that a great tragey has struck Welsh choral singing; when I was a child one could tell a Welsh choir through a battle in a hurricane; now they sound much like any other choir, most of them better than most of course, but still, what has happened to that wild note? Mind you, the closest one comes to it as far as I can tell is indeed when a rugby crowd does their stuff...

I am out on a limb of course; I like the weirdest music, Ndebele (such as Zulu), Cossack, and of course the old style of Welsh -- and, let it not be told in public, I even like bagpipes, though I draw the line at harpsichord and most German lieder. One must draw it somewhere!

All the best and good luck with the weather,

Jon

Good afternoon Jon,
Great to hear back from you so soon and thank you for a great reply.
Still snowing today off and on. I hate it
All the best to you both!
Sincerely,
Gareth
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 12:41, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

February 2, 2013[edit]

Just for your amusement Cheers!
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 07:49, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Ooookay! A right young Barry John or Gareth Edwards, if only he can get out of the stands and onto the field! Well, we all have to start somewhere. ;-) JonRichfield (talk) 11:50, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Still snowing off and on here.
I had my six-monthly check-up with my dentist yesterday – all in perfectly good order, as usual – and he had returned from his native South Africa just last Saturday, having spent the previous four weeks there. Quite a shock to his system arriving at London Heathrow Airport wearing light clothing. He and I always have a good chat about rugby
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 14:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Gareth, sorry about the low profile. Too much late-ing and sooning at this end. If your dentist had weather as oppressive as we have been having,it is no wonder that he arrived looking forward to a bit of coolth. I have just returned from a 30-minute mercy errand to a pigeon, on foot, in a hurry, in the sun etc etc, and about 10 minutes of your current conditions would go down sweet just at the moment, I assure you! 60 Minutes would certainly be excessive to be sure. Years ago when I was still human I got sent on a journey to the Hague and London, in February, in exceptionally cold weather, frozen canals in Amsterdam etc, and guess what i had been wearing on the plane? And guess where my luggage was? (Try Singapore!) And guess whether it was the start of the weekend... Oh well, all education to a young provincial ;-)
Anyway, I add what I hope will be cheering photos taken recently in my own garden and in the national botanical garden, Kirstenbosch. I don't know whether the thought of my sweltering as I took them will cheer you or not, but do your best!  :-)
Aloe cooperi in flower IMG 1702e
Crassula coccinea (Taken in haste; pardon rotten composition!)
Flower of "African potato" tended by irresistible tiny Halictid bee
Cyrtothyrea marginalis Dotted Fruit chafer on very spiky, but handsome composite; sex & violence...

Hi Jon!
Ha, ha! Terrific colours – thanks for the treat.
My dentist made no unfavourable reference to the climate. He wanted to stay on longer and might have done when told at short notice that his scheduled flight was cancelled . When he told me that, I said, "You are too conscientious."
Did you ever get your lost luggage?
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 21:00, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, South Africans tend to either conscientiousness that a lot of other people regard as near pathological, or to irresponsibility that some others would see as near pathological. I'll not stand bail for either, though I have been lucky to have worked most of my life with the former type. As for the colours, you should see Kirstenbosch in spring! And some of the local mountains and nature reserves could bring one almost to tears. Go well! Jon
You too, Jon!
I guess your luggage was recovered.
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 22:36, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Gosh, sorry Gareth! I have just inadvertently demonstrated something that drives my family and friends up the wall; I just cannot keep my attention on anything for long enough to get it done properly. I have an email backlog that keeps me looking in the other direction! I had meant to reply to that question, but missed it when it came to fingers on keys. Yes, I did get my luggage back, quite expeditiously, all things considered. I only had to wait till late on the Monday. My friend and colleague was a conscientious tourist and had brought more cabin luggage than i had, so you can be sure that it was a cold February weekend for one South African, who had just come from midsummer some 10000 km south. I had very little ready cash on me, but I still have somewhere a cheap plastic pocket comb I bought from a Dutch kiosk. I might sound a bit cheerless about it now, but actually, young and first time out of the African continent, we did tackle it pretty cheerfully at the time. Since then I have retraced those steps better prepared, and a good few besides, on most of those occasions with wife and children. Spent two years in London on secondment actually. It was rather a wrench to leave behind some of our new friends when we returned to SA. I meant to send you a bird pic this time, but my system has gone mulish. I think it is my ISP doing a major system maintenance. Another day maybe! All the best! Jon

OK! Things seem to be working again. Here are a couple of shots of one of my favourite birds. Lovely eyes and touching habits. See you! Jon

Dikkop & chick (Burhinus capensis)
Dikkop & hen (Burhinus capensis)

Hi Jon! Glad your PC is back-up-and-running—thanks for introducing me to such lovely, delicate birds. You are a talented photographer.
For my part, I am an unhappy Welshman; if Wales had played half as well in the first half as they played in the second, it would have been a resounding victory. With a score of 3 – 23 at the break, it appeared to be a disaster. Three minutes into the second half and the score was 3 – 30, then Wales went on fire and Ireland were, for most of the time, losing the plot entirely. Final score 22 – 30
So, we will have neither Grand Slam nor Triple Crown this year.
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 19:44, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Gosh! It must have been a match to watch, whether by Welsh or Irish! Frankly, I have practically given up watching matches of such a type, because when I have an interest in either the winning or losing team I wind up exhausted and often depressed. And when I watch a match between teams I don't know from Atilla the Genghis, my sympathies keep getting engaged by the losing side and flipping as the match progresses. I am like a certain professional cricket commentator who actually walked out of a tight, see-sawing 50:50 knuckle-biter, saying "I can't take any more of this!" If I remember correctly, that match went up to the last ball or possibly the second last. But remember, Gareth: you Celtic sides do a lot of that sort of thing; going in and blowing up when you are the favourites and next match when no one gives you a hope, creaming the top opposition! Oh well, it seems as though Wales might accordingly be the team to bet on next year... Good luck on that one. Go well, Jon

All so true, Jon. My mother told me this when I first started playing "Rugger" at prep school: "Some say Rugby is like a religion to the Welsh. It is not. It is more than religion."
If you were to find a few moments when you would like a laugh at someone else's expense, you may be amused by this I have copied it to my Talk before it is archived from the original project.
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 18:42, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Honestly Gareth; I don't know whether to be amused or depressed in turn or together... Pee wossname seems to have chosen his monicker well. Part of my depressed feeling arises from contemplating the presumed states of mind, the self-absorption, self-righteousness, and sheer disruptiveness of such little squirts and drips. The very idea of a mind so constrained gives me claustrophobia. This certainly was cheering in the responses the little nit brought on himself, and I shall determinedly concentrate on that aspect. Life is too short for the other! ;-) Cheers, Jon

Hi[edit]

Thanks for the link! Looking forward to another hard-fought Six Nations - who knows, it might even be as good as last year's. Best wishes, Victor Yus (talk) 08:10, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Progress on WP:Snuggle and work log[edit]

I've been making some progress on Snuggle development recently and I could use your feedback. Specifically, I've created a work log that I plan to update every time I get a chance to work on Snuggle. My intention is that you'll be able to watch that page to track my progress so I can get your feedback on features when they are early in development. The most recent entry (also the only entry) discusses new functionality for interacting with newcomers via Snuggle. I posted some mockups in the work log that show how I imagine the new features to work and I could use some feedback before I start writing the code. Thanks! --EpochFail(talkwork) 20:30, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

75.69.99.193 (talk)[edit]

Hello, my name is George 75.69.99.193 (talk) 20:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello George—I guess you have read my "Welcome to editing Wikipedia"—thanks for your note –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 08:16, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

My first ANI report[edit]

The ANI report (below) has been addressed by another admin. now:- Ravenswing, who puts it perfectly ... as did Viriditas and The Bushranger, of course. And since, succinctly by DreamGuy –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 18:44, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

User:Gareth Griffith-Jones' attitude[edit]

I have a bit of a problem with the attitude of User:Gareth Griffith-Jones. Since I came across him about a week ago, I've sensed nothing but aggression and even a hint of bullying. The edit summary on this revision is evidence of that, in my opinion. He has also been quite aggressive towards me when I attempted to make changes he didn't like on the recent Six Nations Championship articles. I made this same point to Gareth earlier today, but he just deleted the message from his talk page; this is, of course, his wont, but I feel that it would have helped his position if he'd shown at least a little remorse for his conduct. Because of that lack of remorse, it seemed appropriate to bring the issue here, since any further attempts at direct communication would no doubt have been met with the same silence as just now. – PeeJay 19:17, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Note As expected, the notice of this report was deleted within a minute of me posting it on his talk page. Clearly there is an attitude problem here and a lack of respect for Wikipedia and its users. – PeeJay 19:36, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
  • I looked into this. You are involved in a content dispute over at Talk:2012 Six Nations Championship. Gareth has attempted to support a compromise in that discussion while you and others have not. Although that doesn't lend any validity to either position, your attempt at starting this incident report confuses the content issue with one of conduct. I looked at your diffs and your interaction with the reported user and find nothing out of the ordinary. In other words, the conduct of the user is well within the normal range. As a result, I recommend the closure of this thread. Viriditas (talk) 20:30, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
I disagree. The other user has not really attempted to provide any reason for their position on the issues in question, making compromise irrelevant. They have simply dismissed the status quo using a variant of WP:IDONTLIKEIT and in my opinion they have been overly aggressive about it. The actual issues at hand are irrelevant, it is the conduct of other users that needs addressing. – PeeJay 21:14, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
  • As an outsider to this conflict and the involved personalities, let me tell you what I see: an inflexible position on your end, combined with an attempt to harass your opponent on his talk page and then using that harassment to justify a conduct report on ANI. There's nothing for anyone to do here. You should instead focus on resolving the dispute on the article talk page. Viriditas (talk) 21:18, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Also, it's perfectly alright for him to remove the notice from his talk page. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:45, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
  • There are no Wikipedia policies governing how long someone is supposed to wait before removing notices or missives from other editors from their user pages. There are likewise no Wikipedia policies requiring that an editor show remorse to you for his sins, real or imagined, and there are sure as hell no policies justifying you bringing him to ANI solely on the strength of him failing to do so. Would you care to spell out just what Wikipedia policies you claim he is breaking? Ravenswing 08:11, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
  • In my opinion, anyone who states "The actual issues at hand are irrelevant, it is the conduct of other users that needs addressing." is the one with the attitude problem. The actual issues at hand are the only reason anyone should be here doing anything. From the looks of things it appears you don't want to compromise, don't want to be particularly civil yourself and are hoping that you can ignore any real discussion and then get the other user in trouble to get him out of the way so you can do what you want to do on the article. The best way to prove to us that you are acting with the best interest of the project in mind instead of petty personal desires is to start talking about the actual issues at hand. DreamGuy (talk) 19:29, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Good reading, eh?
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard –

Looks like the Admin comments there are all very fair and sensible. So, how many "Stade de France"s are there in Paris? Or anywhere else, for that matter? Maybe we should have "France, Europe" in that table?! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:18, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
It gets better and better. See DreamGuy's comment just added!) –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 19:50, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Seems you'll have no need for this new app after all! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:04, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Amazing. The youth on the rhs is exactly as I have always imagined Master Pyjamas
Spooky –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 07:59, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

If you were to find a few moments when you would like a laugh at someone else's expense, you may be amused by this—"My_first_ANI_report"—I have copied it to my Talk before it is archived from the original project –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 18:42, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Honestly Gareth; I don't know whether to be amused or depressed in turn or together... Pee wossname seems to have chosen his monicker well. Part of my depressed feeling arises from contemplating the presumed states of mind, the self-absorption, self-righteousness, and sheer disruptiveness of such little squirts and drips. The very idea of a mind so constrained gives me claustrophobia. This certainly was cheering in the responses the little nit brought on himself, and I shall determinedly concentrate on that aspect. Life is too short for the other! ;-) Cheers, Jon 19:54, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Actors & actresses[edit]

Hi TJRC!
Thank you for putting me right on Hailee Steinfeld‎‎ and leading me to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_November_30#Actresses
Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 10:57, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Seeing "actress" rather than "actor" irks me a little bit, as I am guessing it does you; and I don't think I really agree with that CFD outcome, but that's how it went. TJRC (talk) 16:14, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes it does— actress conjures up images of "ladies of the night", which is why the majority of our stars of stage and screen abhor the appellation. I missed that CFD, and I am rather surprised at its outcome –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 18:55, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

For future reference[edit]



Home Nations 1883 - 1909
Five Nations 1910 - 1931
Home Nations 1932 - 1939
Five Nations 1940 - 1999
Six Nations 2000 - Present

 –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:48, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Hyman Roth‎‎[edit]

Good evening Gyrofrog,
I am fascinated with your citation-needed template edit on Hyman Roth‎‎ as this is the first time I have come across this version. As I should like tobe able to employ it myself from now on can you point me in the direction of how I would format it:
"At about this time, Roth manipulates Michael's brother Fredo into giving him information he uses to make an attempt on Michael's life in order to avenge Moe Greene[citation needed]."
... for example, is the |1= variable?
Also the full stop follows the template.
Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 20:11, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, the |1= is for whatever text you want to highlight. The instructions are at Template:Citation_needed_span/doc; actually it's easier to use than it used to be (I think there used to be a bug). -- Gyrofrog 15:48, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
That's great! Thank you! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 15:57, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Up[edit]

Late. --Ring Cinema (talk) 09:22, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Leave/Live - The Bourne Legacy (film)[edit]

I see you reverted my correction live together and went back to "leave together". Live makes sense to me, after having watched the movie; leave doesn't. Theoretically both verbs could work. However, if you perform the logical analysis of the sentence, only live works.

The fact that in the English language we have an and conjunction, means that we are adding an additional thought to the sentence: they pay him to take them out of the country, but they do not pay him leave together nor do they pay him to live together. Therefore the action to live/leave together is independent of the action of paying him. Thus to live/leave together is a sequential action after being taken out of the country. If this is the case it could not possibly be that leave the country is sequential to being taken out of the country. Could you please justify your revert?--Gciriani (talk) 03:06, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Gciriani,
I recall we last "spoke" on Rhotacism in The Life of Brian in September 2012.
Your argument above is sound. I have no disagreement with it.
Perhaps the fault rests with the original copy-editing: how do we know? You have watched the film. You know that they leave together, but ...
.... how can you know that they will live together?
Our job is to report on what the film shows, not add our perception.
I will have another look at it now.
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 09:51, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Mara (mammal)[edit]

This is the second time that I have linked -mara- the page does exist ??Iztwoz (talk) 20:03, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I noticed that—that's why I butted in.
Yes, page is Mara (mammal) — the disambiguation page is "A long page"!
Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 20:12, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:23, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Gareth!

You invited me to "e-mail via the Wikipedia link—see the Toolbox on my pages" - and as I am still finding my way around WP, perhaps I found the correct place, or perhaps not.

I'll tell you something if you'll tell me something, okay?

Obviously we are both determined readers of fiction, or we wouldn't be enjoying/suffering through Stieg Larsson.

I am particularly interested in science fiction, though I love mystery, horror, and thriller fiction too, with less of an interest in fantasy, except for the books which I read as a kid. I expect that I'll contribute mostly to such pages at WP. And, thanks to you, I won't make a lot more embarrassing mistakes.

I admit that I would love to learn more of the Welsh language from you.

And here's my query: You met me as a person who is making mistakes all over the place, and you were nice enough to help me, and to help clean up. So why do you want to know me better, and what do you want to know about me?

Remember, I've had Lisbeth Salander in my head for a couple of weeks, and you self-identify as a hawk, so I am going to be cautious.

I am also glad to have met you. I am always grateful when someone saves me from making mistakes that the whole world can see!

Gareth, I hope that I am writing to the right place. This seems public, so I won't say more, for now. Cael diwrnod da! (Did I say that correctly?) Abyssopelagic 10:36, 16 February 2013 (UTC) Abyssopelagic

United Kingdom[edit]

Ah! You've self-reverted, but I thought I'd just leave you this anyway: no criticism, just a comment that I entirely agree with your edit summary when you did revert. I was on the point of reverting his edits myself until I happened to notice a discussion on WP:ANI where someone else had had a similar issue. It was only that interchange that stopped me doing what you did! See | here for the ANI discussion.Regards.  DDStretch  (talk) 12:11, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that DDStretch, somewhat similar experience to my own. Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 12:40, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Was she playing down her looks?[edit]

Hi-- a small thing about recent Susanna Reid edit; it does say she played down her looks in the referenced article, here is the quote; "Playing down her looks, she laughs and replies: “I can’t believe there haven’t been lots of fabulous women living in Croydon between me and Kate.”

Best wishes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nesta8 (talkcontribs) 15:26, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Sure, Nesta8. That is exactly what I read and interpreted. My point is that it is the opinion of the interviewer and not what Susanna Reid said. Do you see what I am getting at? –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 20:47, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

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Well, you see ...[edit]

Gareth, I thought that you might be interested to know that I am on the former site of your former school! I mean, right now, and every working day. I won't say too much more here, having no wish to be outed, even by myself, but I am sure that if you do the maths, pin the tail on the donkey, and have a wild stab in the dark (ouch sorry, the mixed-metaphor-blender's controls jammed) you will not be too far off the right conclusion. :) Yours in mild amusement DBaK (talk) 13:08, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, as you wrote only last week, "Ha! It's a most amusingly small world sometimes, isn't it", I am far more than mildly amused, I can tell you. M25, then the 'Speller' – and now this. It's great, and I love that your 'blender' has a disquieting thermostat.
Thanks for that!
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard13:50, 18 February 2013 (UTC) –
Am equally amazed that such a fine institution is no longer with us. Oops, I think I may have just outed both of you there... haha. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:56, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
HA! Quite. :) DBaK (talk) 14:01, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Ha! Ha!
You are as sharp as ever, Martin—like our favourite condiment – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard 14:06, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Precious[edit]

buzzard eyes
Thank you, Wikipedian Wales national rugby union team fan, for quality articles on Welsh topics, for being part of the Kindness Campaign, for gnomish work, for reading with buzzard eyes and giving peace a chance, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Well Gerda ... for once I am practically "lost for words" ... just when I was feeling somewhat dejected and nobody cared, you make me this generous expression of appreciation.
Thank you.
Sincerely — garrulous Gareth – The WelshBuzzard – 13:06, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
You found good words ;) - Did you know that I wrote He was despised? ""He was despised, – despised and rejected, – rejected of men, ... – despi-sed – rejected", the words interspersed with rests as long as the words, as if exhausted." - thinking of one when I wrote it, applying it to others? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Gerda! That is impressive.
My introduction to this wonderful man's music was when my parents took my grandmother and me to a recital of the masterpiece at Christmas Time when I was ten. The Welsh prefer music with lots of brwdfrydedd ac angerdd a chyfaint which can all be summed up in one short word — Hwyl! (English: religious fervour.)
and when I say "religious" that includes, and is exceeded by, rugby
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 15:16, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
We performed the masterpiece in 2011, and when Andreas Scholl sang "He was despised" you would have heard a needle fall. The plan for 2013: article promised, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:31, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the links, Gerda. It is good to be able to locate your region in your country.
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 15:50, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
It's where others go for vacation, for example to the Rheingau Musik Festival, - I will go and have Andreas Scholl as a tour guide, three concerts, as pictured (by me) in 2011 ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Have enjoyed reading this last link and also your own user page. You have achieved so much.
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 16:43, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I had forgotten I took 3 of the pics on the festival page ;) - a good time to continue a clean-up, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:15, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject UK roads[edit]

Hi Gareth,
As a fellow member of WP:UKROAD please can I ask a favour, I have created a new article on the A381 road but I don't think it's appropriate for me to grade it myself! Could you have a look at it and assess it against Wikipedia:WikiProject_UK_Roads#B-class_drive and Wikipedia:ASSESS#Grades for me, and edit the template on the talk page accordingly? I did boldly grade it as "start-class" when I added the wikiproject template but I hope it is a bit better than that... Similarly, I have undertaken a major re-build of the A345 road article, if you have time could you grade that as well? Cheers, Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 00:32, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Bill,
Have read and admired both articles — first time and I consider both worthy of a B — excellent editing.
Well done!
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 07:19, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Gareth. One imaginary virtual box of chocs for you... although I suspect a box of mg parts would be more welcome! Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 18:53, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Diagrams of Interchanges[edit]

have a look on my recent uploades files: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Hans_Haase --Hans Haase (talk) 01:08, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

My edit on "Made man"[edit]

Hello Gareth. I saw you reverted my edit on the article "Made man". I see your point, but what was I trying to do was to add a linguistic point of reference. For example: there are articles like Vienna sausage that include the name under which the article subject is known in its country (or language) of origin. As I see it, it's the same thing here: all I wanted to do was to make sure that when someone reads "uomo d'onore" in any source (whether it is in Italian or in English, or in another language), it is clear that the source is talking about a "made man". I think that articles on English nouns that derive from a foreign language noun should mention the original version; otherwise, it seems to me that the article is incomplete. :-) --Triple 8 (talk) 20:25, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Good evening Triple 8,
Thank you for dropping by. I realised at the time what you were doing. It is fine with me to return your revision to the article. I love Italian—it is the most beautiful of languages.
I have just added this template Italian: uomo d'onore
If you see this, please leave a brief note. Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 21:03, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok, Gareth! Thank you very much! :-) --Triple 8 (talk) 09:41, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Cheers! Have a good weekend! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 10:24, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

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A dragon for you[edit]

Hapus Dydd Gŵyl Dewi!
Happy St David's Day to you.... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:17, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! Much appreciated, Ritchie
Sincerely,
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 09:23, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for the cookies! Mark K Adams 18:12, 7 March 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark K Adams (talkcontribs)

British road junction list templates[edit]

Hi Gareth

There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Road junction lists#RJLUK set of templates regarding a proposed set of templates for British Road Junction Lists.

BTW, do you have any views about this change. The original is at [4] Martinvl (talk) 21:56, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah! Pride! "Long-established" just means no-one has bothered doing anything about it, right? There's no need for these flags. They are purely decorative. We should be using words like Wales and England, not flags. If, of course, those flags are accessible and provide all that information to blind readers then I would simply ask "what is the benefit to our readers to see odd-sized flags of Wales and England"? Particularly when we shouldn't be using flags without country names (per WP:MOSFLAG). Of course I look forward to your response. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:13, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
I prefer that this is kept within the space of the article's Talk page –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 22:20, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
If it helps, I played hooker for twelve years (and then winger for two...!) so I know what goes on in the front row...... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:53, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
... but who will you support tomorrow (both matches)?
I like your style of negotiation. Well done!
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 20:09, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
If I was a betting man, it'd be on Wales, Ireland and England this weekend. Wales have the toughest game, Scotland seem resurgent and are playing for pride, while your boyos are still in with a chance of winning the whole thing, so that's where the pressure will be.... I'll be in Italy on Sunday so I'll watch Swing Low on Rai 1 or Rai 2, we'll see....! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:51, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Six Nations update[edit]

Hi GG-J. I am so glad that you like the thread happening on my talk page. I feel blessed by the experiences that Wikipedian such as Redrose and you have shared with me. I wanted to let you know that BBCA schedule shows that we will get to see the England v Wales game on the 16th. If I have followed things correctly I think that (depending on this weekends results) it might be for the Cup and that will be something to see. Cheers and best regards always. MarnetteD | Talk 02:42, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Good morning America! Yes, you are correct.
For Wales the away-match test against the newly super-charged Scotland (kick-off is at 14;30 hrs GMT tomorrow) is going to be a cracker. First game this weekend* ...
On Sunday, England play Italy at Twickenham—surely a chance of Italy winning now that Parisse can take part—albeit tiny.
... *The Welsh are a superstitious tribe. We are not able to mention even the possibilities of "Super Saturday" as John Inverdale coins it.
Good to hear back from you! All the best!
Sincerely,
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 08:57, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
I got to see a few highlights of Wales win over Scotland at halftime of the Fr v Ire game. Many congrats!! Next weekend can't get here quickly enough. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. MarnetteD | Talk 19:12, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the links. The having to win by seven points makes the hill a little steeper to climb but that doesn't mean it can't be done. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 23:21, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
As ever thanks for the updates. Sadly when I tried to access the scrum link I got the message "Not avaiulable in your are" but I do appreciate your attempt to get it to me. Saturday can't get here fast enough!! MarnetteD | Talk 16:00, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Congrats!![edit]

MarnetteD | Talk 18:49, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Fair play, more than deserved the win. Humiliating for England. Enjoy it! The Rambling Man (talk) 18:52, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Granted the number of matches that I've seen is limited but I thought that first half saw both teams hitting as tough and hard as I've seen. Then for about the first three minutes of the second half I thought "Oh no did they use too much energy in the 1st?" Fortunately the rest of the play showed that I was completely wrong!! Now the question is which was more satisfying last years Grand Slam or this years comeback against the odds? Not a fair question I suppose I'll bet you enjoyed them both. Cheeeeers!!! MarnetteD | Talk 18:57, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Great performance! I didn't think this would be Wales' year, but they proved everyone wrong. Classic match today. Enjoy the celebrations! Victor Yus (talk) 20:44, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
Good performance - Wales deserved it. Martinvl (talk) 22:00, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Michael,
Thank you for the Scotch ... I am still intoxicated — with pleasure — and more than several celebratory glasses!
And to think we were worrying over seven, or will it be eight, points difference?
I don't want to flood you with links and considered this the most suitable souvenir
Yours sincerely,
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 09:57, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Post script This is your answer to your *unfair* question: this win, Gareth.

@ The Rambling Man,
I appreciate how hard Saturday must have been for you as an England supporter. Your posting above is welcomed and for my part, I apologise for the unpleasantnesses of the previous days ... those parts of days that I should like to be able to forget. We started off on the wrong foot (both of us, I think) then it got better, only to finish with acrimony. I am not content with myself and regard your posting here as an "olive branch" which I grab with pleasure  –
Well done!
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard10:21, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
It happens. No real harm done, although I'm still fighting against the "sock puppet" accusation. User:PaleCloudedWhite, who initially verbalised serious concerns over my credibility has since refused to pursue the initial enquiry but yet leaves Wikipedia littered with accusations of my alleged but unproven impropriety. I guess that's what eight years of editing buys you, no good faith... Anyway, Wales were brilliant, particularly in the second half, and made England look pedestrian and clueless. My only compensation was seeing my prediction of France's wooden spoon coming true. If only I'd put a few quid on it....! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:54, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Apparently the odds for Wales winning were in the order of 110 to 1 before the match but, like you, I am not a betting man.
I am delighted to put it all behind us and "move on" — or, as Don Henley said, "Get over it!" on Hell Freezes Over.
I am sure that it is only because we are passionate about what we do here, that we occasionally let it run too deep. Thank you for this.
Sincerely,
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 21:12, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
@ Victor Yus,
Thank you Victor. I seem to recollect that you are "a Wales supporter with other loyalties" — a match that will not be forgotten by me. All the best!
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 10:39, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
@ Martinvl,
Cheers Martin! Thanks for that.
Sincerely,
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 10:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey[edit]

A bit delayed, but I did want to thank you for your comments on my talk recently. Pleasure to meet you Gareth. Please drop by any time; and thank you for the kind wishes. — Ched :  ?  15:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Ched and I return the invitation to you. All the best! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 15:50, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Posted on Ched's Talk this evening, but forgot to add a sarcasm warning.
I understood that the "Contributions" link was intended to be an easy way to read a user's [User contributions] list — such as if you were to click on Buzzard – in my signature here.
I love the With all due respect link, and may soon be pleased to use it myself ...
Well done!
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard — 21:56, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks[edit]

Thanks for the note, Gareth, and have an excellent Saturday! Cheers DBaK (talk) 10:01, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Philippine_Long_Distance_Telephone_Company[edit]

Hi,

Why did you edit this information out of this article on Wikipedia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippine_Long_Distance_Telephone_Company&diff=542892838&oldid=541201109

Didn't you like this history of PLDT that is why you wanted to hide it?

Alvin Abad alvinabad@yahoo.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.216.58 (talk) 00:37, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank you so much for undoing the change.

I wish I could provide a specific source to backup that historical fact. It is just common knowledge. But here's one if it would help.

"Then Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore made a joke of the situation when he was visiting the Philippines during the term of President Fidel V. Ramos. “In the Philippines,” Lee Kuan Yew jested, “95 percent of the population has no telephone, while the remaining 5 percent are waiting for that dial tone.” - http://opinion.inquirer.net/5472/pldt-digitel-mega-deal-violates-law

Here's another one: http://books.google.com/books?id=Y8tB6mjLalsC&pg=PA245&lpg=PA245&dq=lee+kuan+yew+pldt&source=bl& ots=7FJKo-mh0V&sig=DXhcLAQnPupQIE9WsVsB_8HTKUI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=OqdPUefWF-L1iwKto4DYBA&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=lee%20kuan%20yew%20pldt&f=false

Thanks again.

Yours, Alvin Abad, alvinabad@yahoo.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvinabad (talkcontribs) 01:29, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

  • Good morning Alvin,
    I have added your copy (slightly copy-edited) to the History section, together with your excellent two references.
    Thank you for your diligence. Cheers! –
     – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 08:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

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editing of Michael Attree's page[edit]

Hello Gareth, I am wondering why you keep erasing my update to Mr Atter's Page? I have his full permission and blessing. You may contact him at atters@thechap.net if you would like to hear it from him. Thanks, Douglas

Ok, But I was wondering still if you could explain why my edit was erased and if this is what I am to expect in the future. Thanks Douglas L Smythe (talk) 15:12, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

It is better to complete the edit summary box to explain your revision/s
No, this is not what you should expect ... I shall be glad to help you and support your editing providing that it is improving the project. Best regards  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 20:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones. You have new messages at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Apps.
Message added 11:01, 8 April 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I have answered your query. And if I remember correctly, the reason why I'm settling in so well is because of YOU! I will always be indebted to you. The Wikimon (talk) 11:01, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

That is most kind. I appreciate that very much. Kindest regards –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Many thanks for the barnstar! That was a very pleasant surprise. Cheers! ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 14:31, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Lorien Legacies edit[edit]

You undid an edit i made on the list of Lorien Legacies characters page when what i stated was quite true. It is a point i believe to be important and it is probably seen as incorrect as it is a point from the most recent book, only three days old. So could you please justify the mistake that you have made — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.24.84.193 (talk) 00:22, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Re:The lead[edit]

Hi Gareth, please can you clarify what you mean? GiantSnowman 09:21, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. I should have linked to this.
Cheers!
Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 09:41, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Again, sorry, but you're not making much sense - I knew what discussion you were referring to, I am not sure of your query. GiantSnowman 09:45, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Okay. Is the expression Open para the same as The Lead?
Cheers!
Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 09:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
WP:OPENPARA only applies to biographies, there is a seperate [WP:LEDE]] MOS for other types of articles. GiantSnowman 10:02, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Understood. Thanks!
Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 10:11, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks[edit]

Thanks for the reverts on my talk pages! This quirky and off-beat series Dead Head (TV series) from 1986 is coming out on DVD tomorrow. It might not be your cup of tea but I thought I would let you know about it anyway. Cheers and have a great week. MarnetteD | Talk 08:31, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the link! Great cast, BBC(1986) — I shall add it to my LOVEFiLM rental list.
Hope Sunday is a happy day for you! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 08:39, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
It really is a wonderful cast. Local Hero is one of my all time favorite films. Dead Head was the first thing (not counting the Star Wars films) that I saw Denis Lawson in after that and it confirmed my feeling that he is a marvelous actor. Amazon UK mailed my copy out yesterday and it usually takes 8 to 12 days to get to me so I will just have to be patient and edit here to fill up the time :-) MarnetteD | Talk 08:58, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Not yet available to rent ... hope they make it so ASAP. I liked him in this too. –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 09:09, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
That series never aired over here but I am fairly sure that I saw it in one of the DVD catalogs that I get so I will have to track down a copy. Pauline Collins has been so good in so many things over the years. I still have an affection for the work that she did with hubby John Alderton in things like No, Honestly and Wodehouse Playhouse. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 10:07, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Just got the Jonathon Creek DVD ordered. It doesn't come out until next month but I am looking forward to it. MarnetteD | Talk 04:01, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
I am sure you will enjoy it. Davies is often underestimated over here — no doubt due to his excellent performance as the only permanent panel member on QI ("quite interesting").
You are clearly a BBC fan, like me. I only watch the four main 'beeb' channels and BBC-News ... never any of the numerous commercial stations, much to the irritation of my wife.
Correction: World Cup 2011 in New Zealand was covered by ITV. So that was an exception to the rule! Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard 09:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Henry Martyn Clark[edit]

Hi friend, you promised you shall watch my "progress" I have placed an article Henry Martyn Clark, please help...ڈاکٹر محمد علی (talk) 03:40, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Good morning my friend,
I have tweaked the opening a little to improve the flow. What do you think of it?
I have a question for you: I do not understand the sequence as the dates in this next bit seem out of sinc ... and he attained his MD in 1892. In 1881 he was accepted ... Can you advise please?
Sincerely,
Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 10:30, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi friend, I also suspected the "dates 1881 (being accepted by CM) and graduating Medicine 1892", this is what I gathered from his bio, but I shall further explore why it seems so.
It seems he was "accepted" in the services of the Church Mission even as early as 1881, after his marriage and coming back to India. And probably he completed his MD later in 1892. (?). Be well and blessed.ڈاکٹر محمد علی (talk) 11:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for that. Will have to try and reorganise that part to make it clearer. Anything more would be helpful in achieving that. I have no time left today though, so perhaps you will have more information by tomorrow –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 13:37, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi , you not watching my progress? Busy with your 'antique' Land Rovers and else .ڈاکٹر محمد علی (talk) 19:50, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Oh yes I am — very busy day yesterday! Lt. Col Montagu William Douglas & Abdul Rahim Dard. What is the meaning of Moulvi & Maulana (Abur Rahim Dard) ... why two titles? –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 08:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Molvi, Maulvi, Maulawi = Religious Scholars use these titles. Maulana means Our Friend, Our Lord, Our Master etc. ALSO used with the same meanings as Mauvi ... Regards. ڈاکٹر محمد علی (talk) 12:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! I can see you are settling in well and clearly enjoying yourself –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 13:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Your User page[edit]

I am enjoying reading this as it develops and give you this link in the thought that it may be of interest –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 08:22, 20 April 2013 (UTC)3

I felt so good, somebody so kindly is "watching" over me,it is the loving and generous help of friends like you that Wikipedia is such a nice place ! I am really thankful, and also thanking you for the Help page you have indicated to. Regards, Salaam, Shalom, Peace !ڈاکٹر محمد علی (talk) 13:00, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Hello Gareth. Although it's now somewhat after the event, I just wanted to thank you for your kind remark on my talk page immediately after my recent ANI appearance. I always notice and appreciate such things, even if I don't always acknowledge them (in this instance my energies were directed elsewhere....). Thanks again. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 18:08, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Dear PCW,
You were (with Martin) my two first friends in this strange yet wonderful Wikipedia World. Your kindness and understanding then will always remain a lasting comfort when unpleasantnesses invariably occur and one wonders why is one bothering to spend valuable time on this project and it is such as you two that it still all makes it worthwhile ... and enjoyable.
Sincerely –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 22:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes, kindness and friendship are indeed a great support in times of personal stress; I think the best thing I gained from the whole "sock" affair, was a deeper appreciation of the importance of such things - it is really quite moving to find that people are willing to speak out, to assist and offer support to those in need. I think my favourite quote about kindness and friendship can be found in A Life for a Life by Dinah Maria Mulock:

"Oh, the comfort, the inexpressible comfort, of feeling safe with a person; having neither to weigh thoughts, nor measure words, but pour them all out, just as they are, chaff and grain together, knowing that a faithful hand will take and sift them, keep what is worth keeping, and then, with a breath of kindness, blow the rest away."

I haven't actually read the book - that's the only bit I know - but I think that's a marvellous description of true friendship. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 23:41, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Beautifully and proficiently described. Thank you for that –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 23:56, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

May you leave comments?[edit]

Hello, since you copy-edited the article back in August 2012, I would like to invite you to discuss here if "I Could Fall in Love" is FA ready. Best, Jonatalk to me 16:32, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Closing discussions[edit]

Hi GGJ, you must just go around and close discussions, don't you. Please check the ones you've recently closed and make sure you've used the {{hab}} template at the end of the closed discussions. If you don't use that template when you apply its partner, the {{hat}} template, then all later discussions on the talk page are caught within the closed discussion and invisible. Don't worry, I've already fixed this one for you. – PAINE ELLSWORTH CLIMAX! 20:00, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks for doing that on my behalf ... so sorry for my carelessness ... put it down to a too early Sunday wakefulness!
Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 09:02, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
A pleasure and no problemo. I wouldn't want to count the times I've made similars. Btw, great link to "Wakefulness" above! Tweaked it a little and spent the afternoon editing several articles and redirects associated with that article. – PAINE ELLSWORTH CLIMAX! 00:42, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
... and that is exactly why I enjoy being here in the ever-inspiring world of Wikipedia. (Another link) Glad to have 'met' you –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 21:03, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Mutual, I'm sure! – PAINE ELLSWORTH CLIMAX! 02:46, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Friendly Reminder[edit]

Gareth, whatever you do, don't click that "show" link! >>>
Too late – Just kiddin'
– PAINE ELLSWORTH CLIMAX! 02:59, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Your account is associated with an IP address that was used to make a suggestion on the Talk page for the article pertaining to the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation. This is a reminder that you should sign talk page comment and request to provide a source for proposed inclusion of criticism relating to controversial topic. Christine Bush in Mountain View, CA 17:37, 22 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristineBushMV (talkcontribs)

(talk page stalker)What in heavens name are you talking about. The only two IPs that have ever made an edit on that talk page are 63.207.227.148 (talk · contribs) who made their edit in 2009 and is from Chico, California and 71.11.160.122 (talk · contribs) who edited the page in July 2012 and is from Spring, Texas. Both of those places are 1000s of miles and one huge ocean away from Wales. Perhaps you have this person mixed up with someone else. It is just after one in the morning where this editor resides. I would suggest that you provide a show of good faith and remove this entire thread before Gareth returns to editing. MarnetteD | Talk 01:00, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Apparently a newuser whose first edit was last September. Interesting that she reminded the IP to sign their post and then forgot to sign hers. [[File:|25px|link=]] Well, she didn't technically "forget", but since she didn't use the conventional four tildes, a bot came behind her and added her WP signature. – PAINE ELLSWORTH CLIMAX! 02:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Aaaaah but you see Gareth welcomed the IP who annoyed the user who edited here (etc etc please carry on till you get to "House That Jack Built".) So yes he is clearly "associated"! I therefore conclude that Gareth is, like, totally guilty of, like, everything and must be told off with the full majesty of the law. I trust that this is perfectly clear now. Thank you. DBaK (talk) 08:11, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Facts are facts, guys! Gareth dated Jack's sister, who happened to be the IP's second cousin six times removed (or was it sixth cousin twice removed?). At any rate, CBinMV did not approve of the relationship and has hounded young Gareth ever since! – PAINE ELLSWORTH CLIMAX! 17:34, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

I could not resist the temptation to click that"show link ... Thank you to Michael and DBK for "watching over my page" — that leaves a good warm feeling. As for Paine's suggestion, Bring the young lady forward and I should be delighted to entertain her in the best Welsh style –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 22:14, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

What interests me most is why did she (CBinMV) choose to remove Sinebot's revision? here & here  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 23:05, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
And yet, not here? Hmm... Mayhap she once suffered an affliction caused by botulism? – PAINE ELLSWORTH CLIMAX! 23:40, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm really quite baffled by the whole thing. Her user page sounds quite intellectual. This approach, and the apparent level of confusion involved, doesn't really seem to tell the same story. Go - as they say - figure. Best wishes to all (even especially if they are confused), DBaK (talk) 07:28, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
You are welcome. As to your question I don;t have an answer. The more I looked at it the weirder it seemed. The only thing I can say is that the bulk of C's edits are just cosmetic changes to user space trinkets. The few to articles that I looked at seemed innocuous. We get that kind of thing from time to time. C' leaving you a message just because you had left a welcome message on an IPs talk page shows that the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition "No good deed ever goes unpunished" still applies. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 02:00, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Ha! That is a very droll observation and so often apt. Happy editing to the three of you! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 10:03, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Close template[edit]

Putting the closed discussion template on my talk page totally rocks! I have seen them used elsewhere, but never even considered using it on my own talk page. Nice work, and thank you! Winkelvi (talk) 22:36, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

I thought that would please you. Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 22:39, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

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Birthday greetings[edit]

Happy birthday, to you! Your user page is very helpful, thanks. Iztwoz (talk) 09:14, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Iztwoz. That's pleasing. Answered 't'other end too –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 11:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Penblwydd hapus iawn Gareth. Have a great day. Cofion cynnes, Daicaregos (talk) 12:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Diolch am hynny, Dai! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 12:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Croeso. Do you have anything special planned? Or are birthdays just another day? Daicaregos (talk) 13:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
No, nothing. Never have liked too much palaver –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 14:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Quite agree. I'd rather forget them myself. Hope your day was fun, all the same. Pob hwyl! Daicaregos (talk) 06:33, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
.. no palaver, just candles!!
Happy Birthday!!
"another year older, another year wiki-er" (?)
Martinevans123 (talk) 15:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Indeed. Ha, ha! Cheers Martin! I have been enjoying — and empathising with — your scolding the guy who refuses to complete an edit summary –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:20, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes, quite infuriating. Normally it doesn't matter, I guess, but when it's reorganising whole passages ... it's nice to now know why! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:40, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Totally agree. I tend to be dismissive with their edits when it is obvious they are showing you their longest digit –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:45, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
..or maybe the Wiki agent's spin is the only answer...? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I too wish to send my best wishes for your birthday. May the celebrations last the whole year thru. MarnetteD | Talk 21:17, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Michael, What a lovely surprise! The sequence is inspiringly beautiful. Carefully crafted ... good old Jacquie ... so clever. Thank you very much.
My best wishes, Gareth. 05:13, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Happy birthday may all your wishes come true! Best, Jonatalk to me 19:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey, thanks Jona. Good of you to have noticed –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 20:26, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Of course, I have you on my watchlist . Take care, Jonatalk to me 21:08, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Good to know. You too –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 12:40, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey are you too busy for another c/e request? Best, jonatalk to me 15:47, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Depends ... what did you have in mind? –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 18:52, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
If you can't no worries bud, I was wondering if you can take a look at this article I hope to bring at FAC. Best, jonatalk to me 21:40, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Right now I would not enjoy tackling such a related subject as this article is to the previous one. However, thanks for the invitation. Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 12:18, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
No problem and thanks again for your outstanding c/e skills on my other article. Best, jonatalk to me 17:40, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi dear friend, wish you a happy birth day. May you live a longer and peaceful life. You may watch my User Page....ڈاکٹر محمد علی (talk) 11:49, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, thank you!
I shall certainly continue to watch over your User Page, Talk Page and your contributions, with care
Sincerely,
Gareth Griffith-Jones|The Welsh Buzzard| – 12:28, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you sir, and thanks for adding the Obituary to my user page. Be well. Regards ڈاکٹر محمد علی (talk) 13:32, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
He put your obituary on your talkpage!? Sounds like a veiled threat to me... Anyway, Gareth, a late grattis på födelsedagen! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:13, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
I am in shock. I have not been near your User page since I spotted your excellent photograph and remarked on it on Saturday. Ha, ha! Just worked it out. So you imagine that I at the age of 82 will survive you, although as you put it, "I am 82, weak in nerves and muscle," ... very witty!
Hello Gråbergs Gråa Sång,
Din hälsning glädjer mig idag lika mycket som det skulle ha på söndag. Tack så mycket!
Well done!
Gareth Griffith-Jones|The Welsh Buzzard|—08:21, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

English and French in the Metric System article[edit]

Hi Gareth, I think you had misunderstood my change to Metric System. I was correcting the French in a section dedicated to describing the French-named units. If you look at the talkpage though, you will see there is also a discussion about whether French should be used at all where English could easily be correctly used instead. I guess from your comment that you'll agree with me there that, as this is indeed an English article, that French should be avoided if possible. EdithLovely (talk) 21:09, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Good evening EdithLovely (or should it be the lovely Edith?) You are correct in your assumption and I thank you for clarifying your intention ... I have just revisited the article to undo my revision and see that you have already done that. All the best! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 21:18, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Ooh, Gareth, you naughty little coquet you ;-) Thanks for the acknowledgement though. EdithLovely (talk) 21:31, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
The Welsh male is renowned for it –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 21:40, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

For your perusal[edit]

Hello G. I thought you might like to take a look at this post User talk:Doc9871#Thank you to see some thoughts that I didn't leave on Betty's talk page. Cheers and have a great week on wiki and off. MarnetteD | Talk 20:27, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Replied 't'other end.
Good wishes to you too! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 20:34, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit Summaries[edit]

I'll wait for 24 hours and will then add the section, unless there is (unexpected) controversy. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:38, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

{{tooshort}} tagging[edit]

Hi,

Please don't remove legitimate tags like this in future. Writing a good lead is not a simple task, which is why we have a tag for this; I do endeavour to return to articles I tag myself, but for the time being this helps to attract other editors with the requisite skills. I'll be restoring the tag in question in due course if the lead continues to be unduly short. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 21:35, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Chris!
Thanks for your note. Understood. No hard feelings, I trust –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 21:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
A Bridge Too Far? or just too short? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:39, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
You cross at your own risk! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 07:00, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Tea at Betty's?[edit]

I have to admit that Huddersfield does seem to be an odd choice (noting that the ip who made that change is apparently located in Huddersfield!) I’d never thought of Leeds as being “in the Pennines” as such but the Leeds article deos says it’s in the foothills of the Pennines. Any distinct eastern edge of the Pennines does not seem to be very well defined, at least not in that article. So, as much as it pains me, I am tempted to support User:J3Mrs on this one!! That ip edit seems to be certainly against consensus. ”Refeshments, anyone?” Martinevans123 (talk) 08:31, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I invariably choose Taylors ground coffee when shopping –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 21:21, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Phew, what a relief. At least we can all agree that Taylors is in Harrogate! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:32, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Opened a packet of Taylors' Guatamala Cloud Forests for breakfast today: superb coffee ... a new one for me –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 21:42, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Hmm, I bet that gives you quite a lift. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:55, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Felt like being a Dam Buster –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 21:59, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Hope it's not this one! Barnes-Wallace-and-Gromit (talk) 22:18, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
This is grand, Gromit, lad: a lovely way of whiling away of an evening. See the IP has reverted the shapely tigress of the North –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 22:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
"Oh, my giddy aunt." Martinevans123 (talk) 22:45, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
The mind boggles (These include the "boggles" of C. S. Lewis 's Chronicles of Narnia , the boggart of Susan Cooper 's The Boggart and The Boggart and the ...)
Have started here. You may wish to comment although I am NOT touting –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 22:50, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
East of J26 can be very desolate (as can west of J3, of course).Martinevans123 (talk) 23:02, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Is the reply aimed at your post and/or mine, or the original poster of this thread? Why can't these people follow the indenting criteria? –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 07:32, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Yes, your suggestion seems pretty sensible. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:45, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
If anyone else is reading this, or worse, picking it up today, comprehension will be found here! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 07:57, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Martin,
My being an avid listener to The Yoemen, I usually wait to hear what is about to befeatured on Front Row.
Tonight was a treat ... you must listen to it on i>Player! Tubular Mike & The Virginal Richard ... I learnt so much. Bought the album in mid-Seventies –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 18:55, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'll try and catch that. Old "Virgy-Dick" looks very good in heels, doesn't he. BTW, there is a discussion at Talk:Pennines about how far they stretch! Ghm has very usefully chimed in. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:35, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I have already read it. Well done, you, for starting the thread! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:41, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

undo of my edits to the mayflower passenger list article[edit]

Hi Gareth, could you have another look at this. When I investigated the article

  • one of the persons I marked was not a passenger (based on wikipedia itself) and
  • the other was at least disputed based on other "web" sources.

For reference here are the edits: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Mayflower_passengers&diff=554660449&oldid=554660303

This is the entry on Robert Cushman which indicates that he was not on the Mayflower at least not all the way to America: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cushman

66.65.44.197 (talk) 05:03, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Good morning "IP66"!
Apologies for my delaying to respond, but I have not been editing WP since the beginning of this week.
Whether you are right or wrong is not the issue ... use the article Talk for comments, not the actual article. Other interested editors will respond there and a discussion can follow.
Sincerely,
Gareth Griffith-Jones|The Welsh Buzzard|—08:33, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Nice surprise[edit]

Hello GG-J. I was channel surfing this afternoon and came upon a replay of the England v Barbarians game. It was on this [5] channel which is relatively new on our cable. They might have even shown it live this morning but I was all wrapped up watching the Monaco Grand Prix so I would have missed it anyway. I know that one shouldn't read too much into this kind of match but they sure did look in fine form. I will be checking on this stations schedule to see if they show any of the upcoming tour. Cheers and have a great week. MarnetteD | Talk 23:42, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Michael, That's great for you ... hopefully you might watch this one. Best wishes, Gareth. –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 06:37, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you![edit]

Enjoy your break..:) Strike Σagle 08:32, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Please revisit[edit]

Sorry to bother you but could you resolve comments left on the FAC of the article you worked on? Best, jonatalk to me 22:10, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Gareth. I hope you don't mind, but as your c/e was 9 months ago, and as you haven't edited for a week and might be on a break, I've agreed to do a quick new c/e for Jona. Hope that's OK. Simon --Stfg (talk) 11:47, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello to you both and thanks for picking up the review Simon. Please note that Gareth left a wikibreak note close to the top of this page. He will be back on July 1st - unless he wins a lottery and then it might be longer :-) Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 15:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, MarnetteD. Yes, I overlooked the wikibreak notice. I'll be done with the article well before Gareth gets back, lottery or no. Cheers, --Stfg (talk) 15:39, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

About F.F.Coppola[edit]

I have replied to you at Talk:Francis Ford Coppola – Karanko (talk) 14:25, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

WP:Snuggle is live at snuggle.grouplens.org[edit]

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Withdrawal symptoms[edit]

Hi Michael,
I have had a great vacation. Thank you for looking after the shop.
I have removed the Wikibreak template extended from July 1 to July 31 ... I am sort of slipping slowly back into Wikipedia. Must be experiencing withdrawal symptoms! I do not seem to be able to leave an edit summary here... What has changed?  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:13, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back! I was about to go to your talk page and leave a message. I am not sure about the edit summary situation. While you were gone they did add a "visual editor" to the system but I know next to nothing about using it so I just soldier on with the old way of editing. Village pump (technical) is probably the place to head to for an answer. None of my cable stations showed any of the Lions tour down under so I followed it through various online news reports. I did wake up to the final game of the "State of Origin" series this morning won by Queensland. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 19:24, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Great to hear back from you. I was so proud of "my boys" on the tour. Gatland was strong and his choices in the predominance of Wales players, especially in the final test, was entirely justified.
All the best  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:31, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Gareth, if you mean that you were unable to leave an edit summary when creating this section - that's normal behaviour when you use the "new section" tab, and has been like that for at least as long as I've been around (four years). Instead, you get a default edit summary which ends with the words "new section" - as here. VisualEditor won't be the problem, because it is not yet enabled for talk pages... and it's unlikely ever to be, since they want to use a thing called "Flow" for talk pages. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:25, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Many thanks, once more, to Redrose!
I realised when I returned to reply to Michael and of course could write my ES, that I must have been affected by (a) my seven weeks break from WP, and (b) the temperature here reaching 90 degrees Fahrenheit.
Also thanks for alerting me to Flow which explains a cryptic message left early this morning by PCW. Cheers!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 07:55, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Flow is becoming a thread here –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 08:20, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Your recent lament[edit]

Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in. We miss you. 7&6=thirteen () 21:35, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Ha!
Great clip: one of my favourites ... also immortalised by Silvio Dante in The Sopranos ... good to hear from you  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 07:30, 18 July 2013 (UTC

(Someone's not) going with the flow...[edit]

On a quiet day, the template which someone's added to the first sentence of this page could cause small ripples of mirth amongst fellow pleb editors.... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 02:06, 18 July 2013 (UTC) (Though I see someone else has since removed the template, so obviously not everyone experienced the ripples....) PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 08:00, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Good morning PCW. Odd isn't it? Read the above. Could not make head or tail of it. Then returned to [6] to reply to Michael ... and what do I read ...
Best wishes to you and Martin  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 08:08, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Flow is a planned (2013) improvement[dubious ] to talk pages and other non-article workflows in the MediaWiki software.

Added by Blueboar -- Hillbillyholiday talk 08:11, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

I can see a slight irony there. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:24, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
... and look who is posting here nowadays!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 08:33, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back, Mr Griffith-Jones! You missed the Pricasso-gate business! -- Hillbillyholiday talk 08:16, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Ha, ha!
What a welcome ... still in shock. Many thanks for that Hillbilly!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 08:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
I think you may have also missed “arsehole-gate”. But you’re not allowed to slip back until 31st July, Gareth!! You’re safer off out of it!! Martinevans123 (talk) 08:33, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
“arsehole-gate”? -- Hillbillyholiday talk
Ouch! Poor little car.
You're right, Martin, but I had been away from WP for seven weeks. What has been going on in my absence!? –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 13:38, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Well, Buzzard, apart from the Pricasso palaver on commons, WP and elsewhere — we also had this worldwide story
and of course, it's a mere coincidence that just before the Visual Editor was rolled out, another of our esteemed editors' went on vacation! -- Hillbillyholiday talk 21:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Terrific links ... great catch-up. Intrigued with the {{tq| & {{U| formatting  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 22:11, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

LA[edit]

Hi G. Thanks for your edit here [7]. What my edit summary was referring to was the reference that I added. I just added the bare URL. I know that there are fiddly bits that make it look more official when a reader goes to the references section but whenever I try to work with them I find that I mess things up from time to time. I also know that it doesn't have to have them it just makes it look nicer. Thanks for noticing though. Enjoy your week! MarnetteD | Talk 15:34, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Good evening Michael,
I'm of the same opinion as you re- the refs.
It is a great film. I have the disc and often watch it when I need a lift. Glad to hear back from you and wish that you too enjoy this week!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 18:33, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. You are sure right about the film. I have watched it a time or three in months other than December :-) I marvel at the career of Richard Curtis. Enjoyable as far back as Blackadder. He penned one of the most emotional episodes of Dr Who ever with this Vincent and the Doctor gem. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 20:25, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
You might get a chuckle from part of Lugnuts post here [8] Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 21:19, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
I am still chuckling and enjoyed reading the whole page. "Extraordinary" does not give it justice. Thank you for leading me there and also for informing me on the existence of "Silly Things". Cheers!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 10:32, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Glad you enjoyed it. There are a ton 'o humorous items there, this Wikipedia:More Best of BJAODN#Pillsbury Doughboy is one of my faves. MarnetteD | Talk 15:18, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
This little editing gem occurred while you were away. It was too funny or accurate - I waver back and forth about which - so I wanted to make sure you saw it. MarnetteD | Talk 19:39, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Pop N. Fresh ... brilliant. As Miranda's mother would be bound to say, "Such fun. Such fun." If you don't understand this, please say!
Thanks for showing me IP:86.157.35.226's blessed addition, all too swiftly wiped away ... I wonder if Fraggle even noticed it when battering away with his beat the vandal stick.  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:57, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
I've only seen clips of Miranda's series on The Graham Norton Show as she is a favorite of his. I am budgeting to get them on DVD one day. The Blessed edit is delicious. Maybe someone will post it at Uncyclopedia one day. MarnetteD | Talk 20:10, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Her straight acting role in Call the Midwife led to this. Terrific drama series on BBC.  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 20:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Dr Margi recommended that series to me. I am hoping that it shows up on my PBS station soon otherwise that is another DVD set that goes on the list :-) I am glad that she was recognised for her performance!. MarnetteD | Talk 20:23, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Ifrah[edit]

Hi, I (sort of) undid this edit you made to Georges Ifrah. I'm unsure why you think he's Lebanese: the IP you reverted was only trying to revert previous vandalism, it appears to me. I haven't added back the mention of "French" because perhaps you had some reason for the edit, and it would be better to discuss first. Cheers, Shreevatsa (talk) 04:35, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I have restored article to read "French ..."
Wishing you, Shreevatsa, all the best!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 08:30, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

The Bourne Ultimatum (film)‎[edit]

Please reconsider your automatic revert. The button you used is reserved for vandals, not for experienced long-time editors like you and I. You deleted the first 30 min. of revised movie-plot, with all references to the previous film, although it is a trillogy. I did not write the whole synopsis, and I agree that it is bloated, but the opening sequences are not what needed to be trimmed. Thanks, Poeticbent talk 15:47, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello User:Poeticbent (talk)!
My reversion was not "automatic". I studied your additions and feel that continual reference to the two earlier films is not required in the plot summary of an encyclopaedic article. I hope you understand.
I have restored
Tangier district of old Medina, film location
 –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 15:52, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the talkback and the imgage. And please use Twinkle with care. It generated your revert edit summary at Bourne Ultimatum. Your decision however did not improve this encyclopaedia contrary to your own statement. I'd like to restore what I wrote and keep editing the article. I do not enjoy wasting time edit-warring or having to complain to WP:ANI about any possible misuse of tools thereafter. Poeticbent talk 16:19, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Carry on ... not worth falling out over ...
As you can see here my edit summary is not TW but my own construction for this revision alone. Happy editing!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 16:23, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, and all best to you. Poeticbent talk 16:38, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Note. I have one favor to ask. Other editors seem to agree with me that the thematic link to Supremacy ought to be mentioned. Please do not delete references to the earlier installment. Numerous movie reviewers praised the trilogy as one of the best ever made for this particular reason. (see here). Thanks, Poeticbent talk 16:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Your favour is granted ... oh, that does sound pompous. Sorry, I am sincere; I love the three films and thank you for that link and agree with the sentiments shown there entirely; the fourth film should not have been made, in my opinion.
Cheers!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 17:31, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
I totally agree with you about the Legacy. It was a mistake. Poeticbent talk 17:45, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Map?[edit]

Hello Gareth--you are a mapmaker, no? Can you put a map in Negev? It's full of pictures, but I can't place it easily in the area. (Can you tell I'm watching Lawrence of Arabia?) Drmies (talk) 02:53, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

  • And there's a boatload of 19th-century maps that someone seems to have dropped into Dissolution of the Ottoman Empire as if they were suffering from cartographic diarrhea. They appear to be a random collection, without legends, without organization. Could we have a nice comprehensive big fat map of the situation in maybe 1908... That article is a mess too--history organized by every single ruler of some area since the early 1800s. Do you have a magic wand you can wave? Drmies (talk) 03:00, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Good morning Drmies !
You may be confusing me with another as I cannot recall our having communicated in the past. Give me a clue! Please tell me what you have in mind for this article.
Cheers!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 06:24, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Good morning Alphathon /'æɫfə.θɒn/ (talk),
I trust you are keeping well.
Would this request be of interest to you?  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 07:18, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello. For the Negev map I'm really not familiar enough with the topic to make something useful. There is this category on Commons; are any of those suitable? If not, perhaps you should try asking at the map workshop. As to the Ottoman Empire map, I'd be up for giving that a go if I can find the sources. I've already made several historical maps of Europe, so the Ottoman Empire shouldn't be much more difficult. I'll probably make one pre-WWI map (possibly 1908, possibly some other date - I'll look into it) and a second showing the post-WWI partition. Alphathon /'æɫ.fə.θɒn(talk) 11:04, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Many thanks for your swift reply (as usual) and I am glad the second subject interests you.
As ever  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 14:13, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Hello Gareth--I plucked your name from the Wiki Map project, where I found it in the history of one of their pages. You have a pretty cool name and I've seen it around, so I figured I'd try you out. I'm going to have a look at those Negev maps--thank you Alphathon, and thank you Gareth. Drmies (talk) 14:51, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Cheers, Drmies!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 18:39, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Croxley Rail Link[edit]

Re this edit: as someone else has already pointed out, the link wasn't dead. (I know how to tag dead links, by the way---edit summaries are not the place to make impertinent remarks about other editors, no matter how tempting it may be sometimes.) The reason I removed it was that (a) the news story it linked to made no mention of the fact that it was supposedly supporting, and (b) the link appeared to be instructing the reader to check a user-submitted comment on the story: not only had the comments disappeared, but they would not be considered reliable sources in any event. Therefore, it should never have been used as a reference in the first place--which is why I described it as "unusable". Regards, --RFBailey (talk) 16:18, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Good evening RFBailey (talk),
Were you never taught how to discuss without antagonising?
Yes, that *someone else* was me.
Your tone is, to put it mildly, disagreeable. Any further comment that you should chose to make can be placed on the article's Talk page  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:48, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, but according to the page history, the subsequent edit [9] was made by "someone else", User:Cnbrb, in fact. I'm sorry if you're offended, but please don't make assumptions or judgements about other editors' actions in edit summaries: that may also be seen as antagonistic behaviour. I have copied my explanation (of why I removed the reference) to the article talk page. Best wishes, --RFBailey (talk) 00:43, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello all, please allow me to clarify. The sentence in question refers to the issue of a planned Watford Central station building on Watford High Street (now The Moon Under Water pub). The reference used, to an article the Watford Observer, made no reference to this at all. In fact, the original reference states "see User Comment: Igloo". I am pretty confident that WP:RS does not include comments by newspaper readers as reliable sources. For this reason, the reference was removed. After it was reinstated, it was marked "dead link" - technically, the link is not dead - you can still read the article, but the comments are no longer there. Either way, I am quite sure that the reference was not much use as it did not support the claim. Instead, I did a bit of research and dug up something more relevant, and replaced the reference with a link to a book by a recognised author which describes the former plans. It's always worth a trip to library or a hunt on Google Books to find better links. Hope that is helpful. Assume good faith. Cnbrb (talk) 11:49, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
@ Cnbrb (talk), this is much appreciated. I had followed your editing and understood exactly what you have achieved. Thank you for taking the trouble to come to this page.
This is great.
Sincerely,
Gareth Griffith-Jones|The Welsh Buzzard|—18:32, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi there[edit]

I note you are a little confused about the edit I made to a talk page. Please be assured that I edited no-ones comments on this page, I only changed the formatting between the comments in order to make the conversation easier to read. The actual text of your comment was left intact, in line with the warning you erroneously gave me. Rankersbo (talk) 09:19, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

  • No, you are wrong, Rankersbo (talk). You SPLIT my post. If you go back to the article talk page you will understand from my subsequent editing. It read and now reads as follows:
    :: You are correct, KiyoTatsu – I have just made the correction. Cheers! ...
     –
     – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|—12:49, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh!- well if you'd just said that in the first place we could have avoided a lot of unpleasantness. Yes I made an error with formatting. No I didn't do anything that isn't permitted, it was a simple mistake and should have been treated as such. Apology follows. Rankersbo (talk) 13:31, 8 August 2013 (UTC) I'm sorry I made a mistake formatting the Peter Capaldi talk page, messing up your comment. I thought they were too separate comments. Rankersbo (talk) 13:27, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Your apology is accepted. Happy editing, Rankersbo!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 13:39, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Redundancy of "film"[edit]

I'm not sure I quite agree that the inclusion of the word "film" in the lead sentences of articles with "(film)" as a specifier constitutes redundancy. If an article title contained the specifier "(2009 film)", would we remove the year from the lead as well? I've never really considered the parenthetical text truly part of the title (more of a mechanism), and so it seems inappropriate to me to change the article wording because of it. It also makes the prose (which should be able to stand on its own, in my opinion) slightly less descriptive. Thoughts? --Fru1tbat (talk) 17:36, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Good evening, Fru1tbat (talk).
I believe that "drama", "comedy" and "thriller" stand up on their own as descriptive nouns. The word "film" invariably soon follows in the text on its own.
I am not alone on this see this reverting on No Country for Old Men (film) ( yesterday).
Cheers!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 17:44, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Good point about the word "film" following soon after anyway. I'm not quite convinced that the genre terms stand completely on their own (for instance, the word "drama" could also be used on its own to refer to a TV show, so the meaning might not be considered entirely unambiguous), but I can live with it either way. Thanks for the quick response! --Fru1tbat (talk) 18:14, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, Fru1tbat. Have a good weekend!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:56, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Comparison of English dictionaries[edit]

Dear Gareth,

I wonder why you found my contributions to Comparison of English dictionaries unconstructive. I'm an EFL (English as a Foreign Language) teacher and use Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English myself. It's a British-based dictionary although it covers American pronunciation as well. And regarding Collins COBUILD Advanced Dictionary: it's undoubtedly one of the best Advanced learner's dictionaries. Also see: Collins COBUILD Advanced Dictionary

Dear Morteza Mirmojarabian, I wanted to let you know that I have restored your editing on Comparison of English dictionaries.
Thank you for your message on my talk page.  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 16:18, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morteza Mirmojarabian (talkcontribs) 18:51, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome! Cheers!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 18:56, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Red Vienna[edit]

Hi Gareth. I made the change because, as far as I'm aware and from what I've read, Alfred Adler remained a socialist in outlook, even after he had ditched his belief in orthodox Marxism. There's a possibility that some readers might interpret the sentence, as it stands, as implying that, whilst sympathetic to socialist programs such as those implemented in red Vienna, the really great minds of Vienna knew better than to actually think of themselves as socialist. Adler complicates the picture, as it is currently outlined. I should have logged the change. Sorry. I edit on Wikipedia fairly piecemeal and know that I ought to be more stringent. Steve Allan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steveallan65 (talkcontribs) 17:03, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Good evening Steve,
First of all, may I say how pleased I am that you have registered. You will find it makes life much easier here.
I have undone my reverting of your editing as you will see here
Please leave a note if you read this. Good editing!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 18:35, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
You're quite right, Gareth. Thanks for keeping me right and also for the reversion. Steve 81.107.143.54 (talk) 22:50, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Disrespectful[edit]

To revert another user's edit without consultation, as you did, is quite disrespectful. Was there some emergency that prevented you from consulting me beforehand? I know of none. You seem to be unaware that the changes I made were to correct material that is inaccurate and misleading - or perhaps you are aware but simply don't care? If you want an edit war, I will oblige you. Your choice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Continental46 (talkcontribs) 18:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Continental46: This edit was entirely appropriate and within Wikipedia guidelines - please see WP:PLOTSUMMARIZE. Mdann52 (talk) 18:53, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you Mdann52 for your support.
Ha! I had no idea that you "watch" my page. I feel honoured. I cannot recall our having had any previous contact. Best wishes,  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:39, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
It was after a dispute about a table in an article or something - I can't remember exactly what not Mdann52 (talk) 19:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Oh. Probably to do with Rugby Union. Thanks for that ... I hate loose ends.  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:48, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

The Sopranos (episode)[edit]

Hello, you undid my edit on The Sopranos Pilot episode article. You seem to disagree with two changes:

  • The image. I don't understand your argument that the image is of "too poor quality to keep." The picture is of purposefully lower resolution to adhere to the fair use requirements of copyrighted material. As per quote regarding the "Minimal extent of use" criterion: "The image is of sufficient resolution for commentary and identification but lower resolution than the original. Copies made from it will be of inferior quality, unsuitable as artwork on pirate versions or other uses that would compete with the commercial purpose of the original work." Nevertheless, I have since uploaded a somewhat higher resolution of the picture, its original size. Not to mention that the current James Gandolfini photo is completely out of place in that article. This is neither a scene from the subject matter (Pilot episode), nor even a 1999 Gandolfini production still or smth.
  • The "Connections to future episodes" section. Alright, my argument for the section's removal solely on the spoiler content basis may not be enough if one follows Wikipedia's policy on not removing spoilers just because they are spoilers in a verbatim manner. I welcome and enjoy analyses of episode connections and references. However, I believe these connections should be handled retrospectively, that is, putting them in the very articles of the linked episodes, in their "references to previous episodes" sections, as it is currently done in other Sopranos episode articles. No information would be lost, just moved to its appropriate articles. On an opinion level, here, I view the "connections to future episodes" as largely useless and counterproductive. I believe the majority of readers reading the episode articles use them as episode guides essentially, be it their first or repeat viewing of the series. Hence, a gratuitously spoilerific section (even if with the content disclaimer heading that it includes spoilers) (a section found only in this first episode article too) could, I believe, discourage them from reading other episode articles with concern of accidental spoilers in them as well. This particular section includes some of the most major spoilers for some of the most minor connections. Some of them are easily spotted even without trying to read the section, but, for instance, just by reading the nearby sections and inadvertently glancing at it or smth. The section, I believe, does more damage, then it provides benefit, and, as I said, moving the connections to their appropriate episode articles would not lose any of this data anyway.

--TheBearPaw (talk) 11:51, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you TheBearPaw (talk) for your comprehensive and lucid response to my reverting your editing on a sensitive article. I shall copy this thread to the article's Talk page so that all interested editors may participate.
I shall make the point that this is the pilot episode and references within this article to what will happen are, to me, relevant.
Sincerely,
Gareth Griffith-Jones|The Welsh Buzzard|— 18:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

STiki emergency[edit]

STiki new issue (emergency)[edit]

Dealt with. See Buzzard as of 07:25, August 20, 2013  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones | Buzzard | — 06:25, August 20, 2013 (UTC+1)

Greetings and... thanks[edit]

Greetings Gareth Griffith-Jones. I was unable to thank you discreetly by clicking that neat little "thank" link that appears on the Revision history pages 'cos your edit on my talk page is/was transcluded, so I'm afraid you get the long-winded version here, taking up valuable space and in full view of all. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 09:46, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Ha, ha!
I prefer the long-winded reply to the automated one. Too much of that these days to my mind. All the best!  –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 10:07, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Good point. I was thinking more of the advantages from a discreetness point of view, but you're right, of course: the occasional personalised message does help put a perspective on things... at least for those [of us] who are of a certain age/generation. Whoops! Better stick to that neat little "thank" link whenever possible – we don't want all these young upstarts to discriminate against any old fogeys that happen to be out there. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 11:04, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Casualty Series 28 Editing[edit]

I have been putting on information from the BBC website. If you don't believe me please look around. I don't see how me giving correct information can give you the right to threaten to ban me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CPATH10 (talkcontribs) 10:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

@ CPATH10 (talk
It is in violation of copyright (The BBC's)
We do NOT copy material from publications. We compose our own, otherwise we are in violation of copyright.
How can an original "short (plot) summary" be written PRIOR to the broadcast of the relevant episode?
Answer: "It can't".
Compose your own after you have watched the episode. –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 12:10, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Rain-check concern[edit]

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Your Message[edit]

Dear Gareth,

You have left a message describing my recent edits to a number of school page as "vandalism". Explain why. My edits were to add the objective fact that these schools were among those reported as adopting Section 28 type policies. That isn't an opinion: it's a fact, widely reported in the UK national press, including as a front page headline story: I cited the Independent newspaper of 20 August. Furthermore, the UK Department for Education has ordered these schools to change their policy, though they have not yet done so: therefore an authoritative body also considers this a fact, and indeed an important fact about the school. By taking my edits down, you are not conducting impartial editing but imposing censorship. Why don't you want Wiki readers to know these schools have anti-gay policies, Gareth?"

Mark 86.168.14.106 (talk) 05:35, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, Mark. My error. I shall reverse my editing today. All done!
Please leave a note here when you read this.
Sincerely,
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 07:07, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks
Mark
86.168.14.106 (talk) 11:46, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Dear Gareth,

You recently agreed you were mistaken in deleting my edits concerning certain schools with a Section 28 anti-gay policy, and kindly reverted these. Now you have deleted my edit to a school in which I give factual information about the school's finances, quoted from its officially published Annual Report & Financial Statement, which I cite. Please explain why.

Mark 86.177.66.139 (talk) 20:33, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Undid revision 569905795 by Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) Why the hell don't you register! I thought I was supporting your prev. rev.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
See your IP addresses here!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:40, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Gareth. Actually, I'll edit it myself a bit, too much detail. I've tried registering but after 15 attempts at a username, all taken, I give up. Mark 86.177.66.139 (talk) 20:57, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Okay. I just used my real name and it was accepted ... an advantage of being Welsh perhaps! Good to have "met" you ... good editing!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:05, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Udacity article[edit]

Hi Gareth. I see that you undid an edit I made to the Udacity article. I restored part of the edit. For my reasons, please see the Udacity talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.40.69.232 (talk) 01:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

It just looks odd as the opening sentence to the Lead paragraph: "Udacity is a private for-profit educational corporation founded by ..."
Why does it need to be so prominent? Are you not making a *point* here? Seems so to me, but ...
I shall leave it as your original revision.
What do other interested editors think, I wonder? Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 08:43, 23 August 2013 (UTC))

... this continues on the article's Talk page.

TTMR[edit]

Better to reach out to you for help on these sentences, some don't have to be changed but I need input because maybe its just me:

"A local girl, whom Dickie had impregnated, drowns herself when he refuses to help her financially. Dickie begins to tire of Ripley," The sentences seem a bit unrelated especially the girl drowning herself.. its just there without adding anything though obviously it should be kept. Though the next sentence below where he confronts him does seem like it works.

"Whilst out to sea together, Dickie lashes out when Ripley confronts him about his behaviour, and a fight ensues during which Ripley strikes Dickie with an oar in a fit of rage. Ripley beats Dickie to death with the oar." Seems really elongated and I really think for one scene it was better how it was before, I think it should be one sentence.

"As a gesture to Ripley, Dickie invites Ripley to sail with him for last trip to San Remo." Maybe leave out the gesture bit as we already know hes tiring of him or the sailing, the importance is in the last trip as Dickie says this because he tires of Ripley.

For the San Remo bit, they go there and watch a jazz band play, at the table Dickie confronts Ripley about his supposed education and interests. Then they decide to hire out a small boat for two to the sea. Just FYI in regards to that paragraph.--JTBX (talk) 23:02, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

"investigate. However, MacCarron reveals to Ripley that Mr. Greenleaf has ordered the investigation" investigation used twice in quick succession, readability?

--JTBX (talk) 22:55, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Commenting on each of your paragraphs here:
1 – I agree, JTBX. They do not link although as you say the local girl bit should be included. Perhaps it might be worth mentioning that Ripley witnesses them together (?)
2 – Cannot really understand your objections here. To me it says enough without labouring the description. Reads easily.
3 – Okay – leave out "As a gesture to ..." Had not been over-keen on that myself.
4 – Yes, I know. Although I don't have it here, I remember the film well. I don't like the "They hire" (not accurate) and cannot abide the "hire out" expression (again not so ... the boat owner does that). Why mention "... for two ..." (redundant). "... hire out a small boat for two to the sea." is not readable.
5 – Could not agree with you more. My error – I have just made this revision:
"Ripley is disquieted when Mr. Greenleaf hires American private detective Alvin MacCarron to carry out a thorough check. However, MacCarron reveals to Ripley that Mr. Greenleaf has ordered the investigation be dropped and ..."
What do you think? thorough check is the definition of investigation.
I look forward to hearing back from you.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 19:21, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Response:
1 – Yes, I agree, perhaps something like " which Ripley witnesses" at the end of the sentence.
2 – I'm not objecting to the writing, my main gripe-which it has always been- is how to trim a plot to around the 700 word guideline without sacrificing everything else, and one sentence seems good enough for this one scene, when so much more happens in the rest of the film, (in other words the rest of the film is not respected enough to be given equal treatment), perhaps again this is just me as I mentioned but this is the same thing I have been trying to get to on other film plots but lets leave that for now.
3 – Yeah, leave it, or include it by trimming I don't know, we just need to show its their final trip.
4 – Sorry about this but I was commenting here in case you didn't remember the film but you do, and everything here is just a comment, not what should be included.
5 – Thats absolutely fine.

--JTBX (talk) 08:50, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you JTBX for your prompt reply. I have made a revision: "A local girl, whom Dickie had impregnated, drowns herself when he refuses to help her financially. Ripley secretly witnesses their final encounter."
What do you think?
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 19:48, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Guy Macon[edit]

Should we file an ANI on him? He was acting standoffish as well as slinging unverified allegations of sockpuppeting and block evasion against us. Plus the edit warring. Rusted AutoParts 14:01, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello Rusted AutoParts. Welcome to my talk page!
It is now more than ten and a half hours since I reverted his edit back to yours, so I would advise caution, let's wait and see. If he moves against us again, then "Yes!" ... cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 17:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

corrections to "Apprenticeship"[edit]

Apologies for my edit of the subject. I also undid my edit as soon as I saw the error. I am trying to compile my first book on the subject and would like to edit out some of the content that is not relevant to the subject I'm trying to address. Haven't quite figured it out yet ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realbobbk (talkcontribs) 21:07, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Realbobbk (talk!
Thank you for posting here.
Don't worry about it. It happens to all of us at some time or other. Take your time and ask for help here if you wish. Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Responding to your message[edit]

Gareth,

I received your message that you undid my recent entry to the Case Western Reserve University page. Yes, I think you made an error. I had updated the university's LGBT rankings with the most current information, replacing rankings that were dated.

I am the media relations director for the university and would like to have the information I added reinstated. How do I do that?

Respectfully,

129.22.113.69 (talk) 21:43, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Bill Lubinger Case Western Reserve University william.lubinger@case.edu 216.368.4443

Bill,
I have just done the revision click here
Thank you Bill for explaining your editing to me. Please leave a note here to let me know that you have read this. All the best!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:54, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

WNTO[edit]

Hello Gareth Griffith-Jones, thank you for correcting my mistakes, but if you listen to Sunny 93.1 WNTO, it appears it has shifted to a classic hits format, check out the facebook page Sunny Wnto, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbonnett97 (talkcontribs) 23:07, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello Jbonnett97 (talkcontribs)!
Thank you for your post. I have restored your edit as you can see here and I have made your wikilink work by my removing the apostrophe to correctthe hyperlinking.
Please leave a note so that I know you've read this. Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 08:13, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Bellyache?[edit]

Enjoy this [10]


... and this [11]
... and this [12]. Just a brilliant recording (Although he did not write it) and a sensational video to watch with it.
I have always loved this version, and of course our girl's version.

No, I can't forget this evening
Or your face as you were leaving
But I guess that's just the way
The story goes

You always smile
But in your eyes
Your sorrow shows
Yes it shows

No, I can't forget tomorrow
When I think of all my sorrow
When I had you there
But then I let you go

And now it's only fair
That I should let you know
What you should know

I can't live
If living is without you
I can't live
I can't give anymore
I can't live
If living is without you
I can't give
I can't give anymore

Well I can't forget this evening
Or your face as you were leaving
But I guess that's just the way
The story goes

You always smile
But in your eyes
Your sorrow shows
Yes it shows

I can't live
If living is without you
I can't live
I can't give anymore
I can't live
If living is without you
I can't give
I can't give anymore

And now the Italian words ... thanks to my friend, Anajil 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Per chi? ("For whom?")

Come back, my friend, Come back soon to my home, Do not go around the world without me. You'd lose yourself as you are losing me. Come back soon.

At night I am alone, If I get rid off thoughts I get the wish to die but Why am I asking myself about what I am worth without you and why I live?

But for whom Will the heart beat in the darkness? For whom For whom will I live? For whom To smile and joke again? For whom If you are not here?

That love which you have given to me Between foliage of that meadow, Remained in your big blue eyes. Come back soon, my friend, If I miss you, For whom do I live? To smile and joke again? For whom If you are not here? But for whom Will the heart beat in the darkness? For whom, for whom will I live?

http://lyricstranslate.com
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 19:25, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

And now listen to it in Italian [13] Sorry about the dreadful English female singers who are determined to ruin the record.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 19:33, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Gigliola, lei è così carina -- ilGuglielmoVacanza
Cute ... she's adorable God, How I Love You her. Sciocco vecchio pazzo

OcelotHod on Sullivan[edit]

Gareth, you're a sweetheart! I've been working on this Sullivan page, and when I saw the substituted photo, I assumed I'd made a mistake. Actually, Sully asked me to put in maybe a different photo, but I hadn't gotten to it yet. I don't have many of him. Shall I undo, or do you want to?
Haven't looked at email in days and owe you a long letter, and a less complaining one than last time.
Big hugs.

Why "undo"? The substitution is perfectly in order. The subject is notable, after all.
More so, in my estimation.
Sincerely missing you.
Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | —08:00, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Watford tube campaigner[edit]

Hello, I think you should be aware of this. Bit off, really, isn't it? 09:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Cnbrb,
I'm famous at last, haha!
Thank you for spotting it and alerting me.
Of course it was obvious that those revisions were being made by a campaigner to keep Watford Met open. Opinion shared by PCW
The joke is that Wikipedia:STiki had nothing to do with it ... the project and all associated articles have been on my Watchlist for quite some time now, as you well know.
Cheers!
Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 09:33, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Oh well, I wasn't sure if it would bother you, but glad you are revelling in your new-found notoriety! :-) Yes, I spotted someone's trying to hijack the article for campaigning purposes. I was looking around for an appropriate template to stick on to encourage discussion and neutral editing, but maybe it's just not worth it! Cnbrb (talk) 09:41, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes,I think that is for the best. Would probably only draw more of the wrong kind of attention.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 09:49, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Ha ha ha! Good lord, train articles? Now that's an area I avoid like the plague. You should have stuck to a nice non-controversial subject like Scientology or Chelsea Manning. -- Hillbillyholiday talk 12:37, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Ha ha! Quite! Anything for a quiet life!! :-) 21:12, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Well I think it's outrageous - I don't get mentioned at all! Obviously I need to get myself a Stiki Stick, to bash other editors' additions and help create the right impression ("he seems to do nothing but alter and modify a wide range of posts using a tool called STiki")! That's a classic! "Dark happenings" indeed - talk about paranoia! PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 22:02, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I thought you should have been included at first but then realised that he can not cope with nom des plumes, so you have escaped dear PaleCloudedWhite (PCW)
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 22:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

New Wales Coast Path WikiProject[edit]

Living Paths! Logo

As a member of WikiProject Wales, WikiProject Cardiff or an user who has contributed to Welsh articles we invite you to contribute to a new project, Living Paths!: articles, images, translations... Lonely Planet rated the coast of Wales "the best region on Earth" in 2012, yet there is a very low number of articles on the history and culture of places along the Coastal Path. This promises to be an exciting project as it gathers momentum with many Users joining in across the world.

If you are interested in training groups in Wales, please leave a message on the Talk Page.
Let's make this WikiProject, like the path itself, the best on earth! And let's put Wales back on the map!

Cymrodor (talk) 12:08, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Busant = Buzzard[edit]

Did you know that Busant is an old German word for buzzard, and the title of a long old poem, leading to midsummer night and AGF ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Just back after a week's holiday.
Thank you dear Gerda for this Der Busant and especially for your comment, The only other time it said, "AGF is simply not appropriate here — unfortunately we have assume the worst" — which has left a permanent smile on my face.
Cheers!
Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 20:38, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I share your smile only because we survived what I assume was meant in all seriousness. Did you read the Signposts? One was graced with a beautiful image of a place of learning, the other with the news that its photographer and I need to be restricted and admonished because "unfortunately we have assume the worst". A bit more on top (will put the image there) and bottom of my talk, - I keep singing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
I tried to follow "the wall of text" and have come away brimming in awe of your resolute intellect and your lucid judgment.
You are evidently a tenacious lady who refuses to accept hectoring discourse.
No, I failed to find your place of learning ... are you able to link me to it, please?
Sincerely,
Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 11:18, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Not "my" place, Europe's place ;) ("largest public cultural space in Europe"). The pic is now on top of my talk (was in Signpost of 21 August), along the encouraging quote from a female almost-victim of the Taliban, entered by an almost-victim of "the wall", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:20, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, of course. The new Library of Birmingham was heralded on our BBC News during the days leading up to my week's holiday.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 15:44, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I translated to de, - have time for such things now that I left classical music and opera alone, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Surely not ..? You cannot be serious.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 17:48, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I am serious about a few things, respect for the wishes of others is one of them, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Der alte Busant ist jetzt das Gefühl Traurigkeit. Das Bearbeiten dieser Enzyklopädie können ein grausames Medium sein.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 11:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Buzzard, please don't be sad. I know the feeling since 2010, and so far I always "survived" losing people whose collaboration I enjoyed. The first time was the Grace Sherwood drama, - just now they brought the infamous article back to FA status, healing a wound of three years! - I had a red cat(egory) on my user for a reason, and now I have three. I am not sure how I would have survived this time, but it didn't happen. So let's see what we can do together. I have to ask for help every time I want an infobox for an article which is not brand new, including those I wrote myself, yes, kafkaesque. See BWV 138 and here, buzzard, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Just read "Already a dead letter" ... my mind is boggling ... what you have to put up with.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 22:17, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Relatively little, compared to Andy, who takes it since 2005. Did you read my history also? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:29, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes I have, Gerda.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 10:02, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! Working on this, - leaving projects only means leave their discussions alone, not my interest in the topics. We will perform it with this orchestra, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
L'arpa festante is certainly new to me —reading about it now thanks to you. Has Michi Gaigg's position been replaced by Winfried Toll? I love Bach.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 15:26, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Toll conducts the choir. They don't have a regular conductor, play also for us, first time. The last orchestra we had would have discussed every measure for five minutes, just like ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:38, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
... yes, I can imagine.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:21, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Rehearsal was good, easy and light, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Mmmmm ... the circle is complete.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
For the second round of the dance: Rhapsodie Macabre, for the latest: the call on top of my talk, - I nominated for GA, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Ah ha, The Story of Franz Liszt — I saw the film in 1960, starring Derek Jules Gaspard Ulric Niven van den Bogaerde.
"The latest"Too many trombones!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:55, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Sopranos Episode edit![edit]

Hi

I was only trying to contribute. I read what I should not have read and only added a warning "Major Spoiler" in brackets, for future readers not to have the same experience as me, without editing or change the meaning of the actual content.

Is that disruptive editing and vandalizing?

Seriously? If you guys are so edgy about editing, so be it block me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morgan6888 (talkcontribs) 20:30, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Morgan6888 (talkcontribs).
Please read this to understand why you were reverted (twice) within 13 minutes for the identical addition of a *shouty* spoiler warning.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 07:50, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Good morning Gareth Griffith-Jones .
I am sorry for the outrageous message on your talk page and I understand the rules of an encyclopedia better.
Please don't worry about it! I am happy that you have replied to me so politely and wish you well. Stick around and have fun!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 08:56, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

RFC at The Departed[edit]

As a recent participation at Talk:The Departed#Whitey Bulger and The Departed this is just a note to let you know that there is now an RFC regarding the issues discussed at Talk:The Departed#RfC: Discussion of Lead Section comment on film sources neglectfully or inadequately discussed in main article. Betty Logan (talk) 08:38, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Betty, for drawing my attention to it.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 09:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

new message[edit]

Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones. You have new messages at WiZaRd SaiLoR's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Excellent! Very well done!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 09:36, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
i belive you may be interested on Welsh settlements at Patagonia Argentina (South America) some links Trevelin official Government website http://www.trevelin.gov.ar, other about Argentina's Patagonia welsh migration http://www.glaniad.com you can find more at google but those are very good, i have some family that is related to the founders of Trevelin back in the XIX century, if you are not interested on any of this, excuse me, i just guess you may be interested. kind regards
just look at the flag of Puerto Madryn you see were it came from hehe --WiZaRd SaiLoR (talk) 10:26, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Very kind of you; thank you for all the links.
This is one from me to you.
Sincerely,
Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 10:45, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Little boxes[edit]

Hi Gareth

I know this is probably pretty basic, but I want to change my user page from terminally dreary to mildly interesting. How do you create those little boxes "This user is..."? I've tried to find it in the help pages, but failed. Thanks & best wishes from autumnal Blaenffos, Tony Holkham (talk) 22:48, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hello Tony. Gareth is probably sleeping at the moment so I thought I would leave you this link Wikipedia:Userboxes. The page will give you in on most of the info that you need. If you are computer savvy you can create your own. You are also free to copy ones that others have created and adapt them to your user page. I hope this is of some help. Cheers to you both. MarnetteD | Talk 00:34, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes Tony, that was exactly what I did (apart from the creation of new userboxes) and thank you, Michael, for keeping an eye on my *shop* in the middle of the night! Best wishes to both of you.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 07:57, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Post script: Tony, should you need any further assistance, please don't hesitate in returning to this thread here.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard |
Brilliant. Thanks, both. Easy when you know how! All the best, Tony Holkham (talk) 09:30, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
I shall look forward to seeing how your page develops.
For the benefit of any visitor: I have hyperlinked Blaenffos — Pembrokeshire is my favourite county in Great Britain.
Cheers!
Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 10:54, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Can you explain I have hyperlinked Blaenffos? Tony Holkham (talk) 11:08, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Sure! My expression for "Wikilink" ... see your opening post here: the closing sentence. I did it to enable any friendly (talk page stalker) follow the content.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 11:13, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Ting! (light bulb moment). Thanks again. Tony Holkham (talk) 11:26, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Kaye[edit]

Apology offered. I have reverted myself and removed the notice on your Talk page. I understand thanks to this! Please leave a note to let me know that you have seen this post.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:37, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

hello and apology accepted. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.70.176 (talk) 14:47, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Tuncel Kurtiz[edit]

Hi! The comment "possible vandalism" was a reference to the edits by anon 80.78.78.171 and not yours. Pls check page history. Besides, in contrary to the first news, Kurtiz was found already dead at his home. This is why I changed the sentence by omitting phrase "the hospital". Moreover, at this time being, it is not certain whether he died before he hit his head or afterwards. Anyway, we will know it soon. Cheers. --CeeGee 17:57, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello CeeGee!
I realised that, after I "saved" — but too late; the deed was done! I can assure you that I had studied the History page before reinstating my earlier editing.
Thank you for visiting my page and taking the trouble. Sincerely,
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 18:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
The article now states that he died at home.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 10:51, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your efforts. Cheers. --CeeGee 11:19, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Your edits re Abyssopelagic[edit]

Hi there,

We don't know each other, but we're both friends with Abyssopelagic. I'm her neighbor and she's been unable to get out of bed for several days, but she asked if I would please say thanks for what you've done, or maybe it was "all you've done". (I guess she means on WP.) She also says to say she'll get an MRI and other medical tests soon. I hope I'm remembering everything...

I am used to speaking only with Brambleberry, my tutor/WP adopter, as a rule, and I feel shy talking with you, but Abyss says you're a good man. I suppose I'm not supposed to tell you my real name.

I owe Brambleberry about a dozen emails, but I promised Abyssie I'd write to you first. Oh, Abyss said to tell you "di olch", which sounds like code. I suppose it means something to you two. (Don't tell her I said this, but I think she has a crush on you.)

She also said her computer has been frozen for a few days and she might come to borrow mine if she feels well enough. Well, of course she can! So maybe you'll hear from her herself. Abyss was very anxious to speak with you, so I hope I can get her out of bed and over here.

I know this is a very personal letter, so you might not want to keep it on your Page. But Abyssie was anxious that I write to you, and I hope you don't mind.

She says you are a gentleman, and I expect you to act as one. Abyssopelagic is a great girl and you had better treat her right!

Thanks very much for your attention, sir, OcelotHod (talk) 15:24, 28 September 2013 (UTC) OcelotHod

Good evening sweet emissary!
Abbs has told me lots about you and as you know we have "bumped-up" against each other, in the best possible way, on another WP article page — and now today on 'another' page. I have been getting more and more anxious about Abbs She told me about the MRI on August 15 and thought she would have results by now.
She has told me your given name, but I shan't reveal it here. Have no fears such as those declared in your sixth paragraph; if I can bring some brightness into her life I shall be exultant. Thank you for writing to me.
Sincerely,
Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 21:14, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Your conduct with User: Abyssopelagic was itself a Random Act of Kindness. 7&6=thirteen () 17:20, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Portrait of Sherlock Holmes by Sidney Paget, 1904
Well, thank you my dear friend. I am not sure that I deserve such an accolade, but it is treasured.
We have not conversed since mid-July. I trust all is well in your neck-of-the-woods!
Is the awarding of my Kindness barnstar a result of some diligent sleuthing? — or what you have gleaned from reading the letter above?
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:39, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Veni vedi vesearchi dewiki & Uvici. I am no Latin scholar. 7&6=thirteen () 20:45, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Ah ha! I expected you would. Good man!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:04, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
There are no secrets in Wikipedia.

As my father once wrote (I think he found it elsewhere, but did not so attribute it at the time):

"Saville der dago "A tousin bussis inaro "Nojo, demis truix "Summit cowsin "Summit dux."

He worked at one time on detached service from the U.S. Army Air Corps at Hut 6 at Bletchley Park. Otherwise, he was a radio man/bombardier in the 9th Air Force flying in Martin B-26 Marauders. 7&6=thirteen () 21:09, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

I remember, you told me in the days we regularly e-mailed.
That quote from your father takes some puzzling out and right now I am struggling.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:25, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Say Billy, there they go; a thousand buses in a row; no Joe, them is trucks; Some with cows in; some with ducks. Hope all is going well for you and yours. I actually have some pieces off a Norden bombsight in my collection. One is the finest little electric motor you've ever seen 7&6=thirteen () 21:35, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh, good ... excellent fun! I shall now be able to sleep (!) and enjoy feeling content.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:52, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


Clarity[edit]

Hi, I noticed your recent edit to Clarity (Zedd song). I'm happy to co-operate: if a YouTube citation is not acceptable for a music video then what is? Vevo? I'm just struggling to find something more reliable than a verified YouTube upload. Cheers, DJUnBalanced (talk) 20:23, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Your *reference* did not link to a YouTube page, but to the Wikipedia article
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:33, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
If you look at the article history I'd added a reference to this very video at the end of the music video section. Does that not suffice? DJUnBalanced (talk) 20:38, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
It is your claim that, "As of September 27, 2013, the video has received over thirty-three million views on YouTube" that is in question — you need a citation for that. Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:44, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Youth in Focus[edit]

Hello, can you please give me more information as to why you reverted my good faith edit on the Youth in Focus page?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_in_Focus

The page that is there now, includes in-accurate information as it doesn't mirror the Youth in Focus website. I would just like to know why you reverted my good faith edit before I made any other changes.

Thank you, Ash — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.143.79.72 (talk) 00:11, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello Ash,
I have removed the website address link from your opening sentence ... Youth in Focus ... this cannot appear in this position, and I have restored the rest of your revisions.
External links is the appropriate section and it was already there.
Please leave a note here when you have read this.
Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 13:01, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Love Actually[edit]

Gareth,

I'm not sure why you undid my entirely accurate change to my own previous item on the page for the film "Love Actually". The previous Blu-Ray released in the US contained the UK version of the film, the new Blu-Ray contains the US version. This is very useful information. I have reposted and clarified my item a bit, as I used the word US and UK "cut", which could be misleading, as the cuts of the film are identical, only the music tracks are changed.Jamesluckard (talk) 22:34, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Good morning James,
My reason was stated in my edit summary here ... for you to open/begin with "That..." was appalling English and what followed was, to me, uncomprehensible. However, your current revision is okay, although I feel it is written the wrong way round — UK should feature first with the US version following it.
Please tell me when you have read this and feel free to disagree.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 06:41, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
My stance is that, per WP:BURDEN, we need WP:RSing for the information about the differences between the US and UK versions on the various DVD/Bluray releases. I would think that they are out there somewhere - perhaps on a DVD review website. It would be nice if some explanation could be given as to why the songs in question were moved but I know that would probably be harder to find. MarnetteD | Talk 15:10, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Understood. Thanks M.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 17:34, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Gareth, I recognize that opening with "That" was not correct English. It was an orphaned word from my original item, which I overlooked as I revised the item. The rest of the item covers a fairly confusing topic - the music differences in the film. I've tried to make it as clear as possible. If there's a clearer way to make the same point, I welcome it. I know we're both here to help people on Wikipedia, so I'm not mad at you or anything. I just didn't understand why you deleted an important new piece of information - the first release of the US version of the film on Blu-Ray this month. I agree, actually, that the UK version should come first, as this is a UK film. I'll revise the item to hopefully clarify things. As for the reason for the different music, I'm sure it's due to Kelly Clarkson being well-known in the US but not in Britain. Thus her song was not included in the UK version of the film. Writer/director Richard Curtis almost always does subtly different versions of his films for different markets and talks about it in interviews. Best, James. (talk) 21:53, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Good morning James,
Many thanks for your comprehensive reply. Do as you outline here and add your revision. I shall then add a template requesting supporting reference/s, in the event that you cannot. From where are you getting the information?
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 08:08, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Ha! I see you already had done so, and that my friend, MarnetteD has added the template ... "Great minds think alike"
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 09:20, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Gareth, I'm so glad we can chat and be friendly about this. There's so much bickering on the internet, but you seem to be a thoroughly reasonable person:) Which information are you referring to? The fact that the new US Blu-Ray will include the US cut of the film? That's from a Blu-Ray forum I visit, where someone already has a copy of the disc. You can find the discussion here: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=226041&page=3 As it's a fairly minor difference, I'm not sure it will be caught in many reviews of the Blu-Ray. Only obsessive fans of the film notice small changes like these:) As for other changes to Curtis films, "Love Actually" also had the entire subplot of the nude body doubles removed for most Asian markets. His film "The Boat That Rocked" had the biggest changes for the US, losing 30 mins and gaining a new name - "Pirate Radio". "The Tall Guy" was also shortened a bit for the US. Notting Hill had an alternate version of the song "She" at the opening and closing used in some markets. The film of "Bridget Jones's Diary" that Curtis worked on also had significant changes - an alternate end credits sequence and numerous "British" terms that Americans wouldn't understand being redubbed, such as "Alsatians" being changed to "wild dogs". (talk) 18:38, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
I am in full agreement with your opening comment.
You could for now add that link as a stop-gap reference and then try to find something less personal to replace it.
The rest of your post is fascinating. I do like all of Curtis' work as you clearly do too. All the best!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 19:28, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Pitch size[edit]

Gareth

Last night I added a short paragraph to the section on pitch size on the Rugby Union page.

Perhaps I should have started a discussion about this, but I thought it would be uncontroversial. You have this morning removed the addition with the comment: "somewhat contradictory comment .. all covered in the preceeding paragraph". So I have evidently misjudged it.

The point that I was trying to make was that in the recent IRB laws there has been a change. In the past there was only a maximum length and width (100x70m). Now, for tests at least, there is also a minimum. The pitch must be at least 94x68m. That doesn't contradict what is written in the previous paragraph; it adds a new fact that is missing from the article at the moment. I'm not sure when the IRB added this (the last version of the laws which I have is from 2007 and there was nothing about a minimum size then), but the change is significant. It is the main reason why Leicester Tigers' Welford Road will not be a 2015 World Cup venue. The playing area at Welford Road is too small.

I came to Wikipedia looking for complete information on pitch dimensions and when I couldn't find it, I updated the page. I think that is how we are supposed to cooperate in the development and maintenance of Wikipedia. I would like to roll back your deletion of my edit.

What are your thoughts? Maybe I am missing something?

Thanks

Graham (mangodog) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangodog (talkcontribs) 10:52, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Good evening Graham,
As you can see here I have undone my editing.
May I say how refreshing it is to have such a pleasant encounter.
Please leave a note here to let me know that you have seen this post.
Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 17:44, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Seen, thanks. Another time I will leave editing notes. That would have helped.
Graham — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangodog (talkcontribs) 18:24, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Good evening Mangodog (Graham),

Thanks for the note.

Please remember that you can sign your messages on talk pages with four tildes ~~~~
— this will automatically insert your "signature" — i.e. your username and a date stamp.
The or button, on the tool bar above Wikipedia's text editing window, also does this.
Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:00, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Article "Tablighi Jamaat" Sub heading: 6.1 Criticisms[edit]

Hello Gareth, This is with regard to the last sentence of the Sub heading: 6.1 Criticisms wherein it states that "It is also prohibited in Iran, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.[51] India is considering banning the organisation." Although the movement has been banned in countries like Russia, there has never been any talk or article about banning it India. This same has been referred from the note number 51 by James foundation article but it never appeared in any other article worldwide that the movement might be banned in Indian authorities whether security or political authorities. Hence, we do not have any legitimate data for the same. I hope this sentence will be removed. I am questioning the authenticity of the information "India is considering banning the organisation". since it has never been published anywhere in India. With Regards, Rakib Akhtar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.58.244 (talk) 14:23, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Good evening Rakib Akhtar,
I have moved your original post to the article's Talk page together with a copy of your post here. You will read here that I have asked other informed editors to get involved as this is a subject outside my knowledge.
Please leave a note so that I know you've read this.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 19:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Jus Solis modification[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

Hi,

First of all, I want to apologize if I broke the Wikipedia procedure when modifying contents. It was not my intention to create or do any sort of vandalizing.

In the discussion about Dominican Republic and the application of Jus Solis, it is given as fact that racial discrimination and exclusion of haitian citizens cite: " to exclude most Dominicans of Haitian origin from citizenship, even those previously recognized by the Dominican state" were the main cause of the modification of the Constitution. As of right now, the Constitutional Court of the Dominican Republic ruled about how citizenship is obtained in the Dominican Republic (2) and also the current Constitution (Article 18, numeral 2) defines Dominicans as:

2) Whoever holds Dominican Nationality before the application of this Constitution. (1)

These documents demonstrates that the current information provided by wikileaks is mere speculative and does not correspond to the truth.

Please advice how to proceed to change or modify the current information or if possible add these clarifications to the paragraph and note that the accusations made in the information are under debate.

Thank you

Reference 1) Dominican Republic - Constitution 2010 http://www.procuraduria.gov.do/Novedades/PGR-535.pdf

Artículo 18.- Nacionalidad. Son dominicanas y dominicanos:

2) Quienes gocen de la nacionalidad dominicana antes de la entrada en vigencia de esta Constitución;

Reference 2) Constitutional Court ruling http://tribunalconstitucional.gob.do/node/1764 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.76.2.102 (talk) 16:21, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation. I had not considered your revision to be "Vandalism" but rather more of a "Test edit". You removed a large chunk of copy without giving any form of reason for doing so. It is always better to alter copy in small revisions and wait for a reaction. If none, then carry out another small change. Et cetera, et cetera ...
Try it now!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 18:48, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Post script: Please leave a note here to let me know that you have seen this post.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 18:50, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
I have! Thank you for your help. I will proceed to add the revision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.76.2.102 (talk) 20:57, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Well done!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:01, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank You![edit]

Hi Gareth, thank you for improving my edits I tried to look for a cast photo including Doreen Mantle but there were none that was the best one i could find.

Kind regards Riain. Rhiski91 Talk 20:41, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for dropping by. You will always be welcome, Riain, and if you ever want help, please come back and ask.
All the best!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:09, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Change to carbon sequestration page[edit]

I made a change to the Carbon Sequestration page, and received a message from you that you'd undone it because it "did not appear constructive." I'm not sure what that means- I'd updated a link from a broken one to one (of the same report) that was not broken. I'm not sure how much more constructive it could be!

Erumley (talk) 20:33, 9 October 2013 (UTC) erumley

Please accept my apology Erumley. You are correct ... I have been to the article and I see you have restored your revision.
I have removed the notice (a template) from your Talk page. Leave a note here when you see this, please. Thank you.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:51, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Apology accepted. Thanks for letting me know :)
Erumley (talk) 16:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC)erumley
Thanks for your note! Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 16:32, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

STiki[edit]

I believe I might need little help now in WP:STiki... [14] [15] [16] [17]

If you have time to help, please help me. Thanks! Epicgenius(give him tiradecheck out damage) 20:31, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

This , the first: Kwamikagami is a highly respected editor and former admin. He has left a brief edit summary.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:37, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
The second revert could have been avoided had an edit summary been given by Tony1, but it was not vandalism and a careful examination should have made it clear to you that Tony is considered highly by most of us, including me.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:46, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Tony has replied to you this morning on your own Talk. See section: Overlinking.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 09:36, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Should not concern yourself with the third. See this! Orangemike was quite kind to you and your STiki revert held up.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Really cannot understand what led you to this revert. Remember, you are looking for vandalism. User:Prairiegrl made a perfectly valid revision.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:06, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

e-Stewards correction[edit]

Hello Gareth, I'm writing in regard to your changes on the e-Stewards (it's with a small e and not a capitalized E, it's a trademarked name http://e-stewards.org/). I work for e-Stewards and can tell you that the section about e-Stewards certification including R2 practices is completely false. You can refer to this page on e-Stewards's website to confirm http://e-stewards.org/certification-overview/ R2 Practices are indeed not included in our certification. Also, we are not legally allowed to promote one e-Stewards recycler over another so the section about e-Cycle needs to be deleted as well. You can say that they are the first mobile buyback company to achieve e-Stewards certification, but you cannot blatantly advertise their services as you have here "e-Cycle collects mobile phones and tablets from businesses, government agencies and major organizations, reimbursing them for mobile devices that retain value and recycling all others at no charge"

I respectfully request that you accurately depict our company on Wikipedia and make the necessary edits. If you have any further questions or need further elaboration on the e-Stewards certification program, feel free to contact me back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.171.187.16 (talk) 22:49, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your post here. I see that you have removed the copy again. An edit summary might have prevented my re-instating your first removal. It looked like vandalism.
I presume you have noticed my editing tonight ... my edit summary is self-explanatory.
Any other issues? Please leave a note when you read this. Thanks.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 22:03, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

My Recent Edit[edit]

Hello Gareth,

I removed that large section from Friend of my Youth because it was about the indivudual story, not the story collection, and therefore didn't really belong. It was also original research. I won't revert it back because I don't want to cause problems, but I think the edit was fair. (I explained in my edit summary, which, I get the impression, was not read.) 75.156.68.21 (talk) 20:07, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello! The copy is under the section heading, Plot, so therefore does not require references as the book is the source. I certainly did read your edit summary and I thank you for it. I shall re-instate your revision and we can both "wait and See".
Please leave a note here when you have read this post.
Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:17, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Another issue is that it is about only one story in a collection of ten, which at the very least needs to be clarified - and there nine other summaries should then be added. 75.156.68.21 (talk) 20:21, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Correct. Could you attempt it?
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 20:23, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Not at the moment, as I've only read three. But sure, I can add them in as I go. 75.156.68.21 (talk) 20:27, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Excellent. Good editing!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:05, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

undoing change[edit]

Hi,

I'm not a regular contributor to wikipedia, so I'm not going to argue. I do think you're making a mistake. I think my contribution was constructive. A movie is coming out soon about the wolf of wallstreet, and it's a film about Belfort, a man that is not referenced at all in the belfort disambiguation article. the only way to find the article is if you know his full name. people who search for belfort alone or who use the disambiguation page will be unable to find the wolf of wall street.

that's my feedback, you can do whatever you like cheers 18.221.1.230 (talk) 21:02, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for this. I have undone my revert. Please leave a note when you read this.
Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:11, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Go Radio[edit]

Hey I don't mind much if you disagree, I'm just a big Jason Lancaster fan and the original statement made makes it seem like he isn't continuing with music when he's been interviewed and said that he has no intention of quitting. I have a link to the interview that I was going to reference, but I wasn't positive how to add them.

Here's the interview if it makes a difference:

http://idobi.com/audio/the-gunz-show-interview-with-jason-lancaster-of-go-radio/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.110.138 (talk) 10:43, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll do it later today as I'm on my way out now. Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 11:08, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 Done and I have tweaked the copy a little. Hope you approve. Please leave a note when you read this.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:47, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! I appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.110.138 (talk) 21:56, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
I was pleased to help. Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 22:18, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Lavandula[edit]

The assertion that Lavandula angustifolia, or any species of lavender for that matter, are cytotoxic is very much disputed. There are dozens of articles challenging the results in Prashar et al's "Cytotoxicity of lavender oil and its major components to human skin cells" study. Notably, Cavanagh and Wilkinson's (2002) "Biological activities of lavender essential oil" and Altaei’s (2012) article entitled ”Topical lavender oil for the treatment of recurrent aphthous ulceration.” Not to mention, this very comprehensive and well-researched refutation of Prashar’s claims by an esteemed and very experienced British aromatherapist, Robert Tisserand, which can be found at http://roberttisserand.com/2011/08/lavender-oil-skin-savior-or-skin-irritant/ Therefore, lavender oil has not been repeatedly found to be cytotoxic, if anything, it is the exact opposite in that it helps to heal wounds and repair damaged skin. This would not be the case if it was inherently toxic to dermal cells. The only study that has suggested this was flawed in methodology and results, therefore I removed the offending citations as they are alarmist and unfounded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.102.181.200 (talk) 21:56, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

The following was posted on my Talk page overnight:

The assertion that Lavandula angustifolia, or any species of lavender for that matter, are cytotoxic is very much disputed. There are dozens of articles challenging the results in Prashar et al's "Cytotoxicity of lavender oil and its major components to human skin cells" study. Notably, Cavanagh and Wilkinson's (2002) "Biological activities of lavender essential oil" and Altaei’s (2012) article entitled ”Topical lavender oil for the treatment of recurrent aphthous ulceration.” Not to mention, this very comprehensive and well-researched refutation of Prashar’s claims by an esteemed and very experienced British aromatherapist, Robert Tisserand, which can be found at http://roberttisserand.com/2011/08/lavender-oil-skin-savior-or-skin-irritant/ Therefore, lavender oil has not been repeatedly found to be cytotoxic, if anything, it is the exact opposite in that it helps to heal wounds and repair damaged skin. This would not be the case if it was inherently toxic to dermal cells. The only study that has suggested this was flawed in methodology and results, therefore I removed the offending citations as they are alarmist and unfounded.
— User:IP:65.102.181.200

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.102.181.200 (talk) 21:56, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
I have edited accordingly.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 07:11, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Lorde[edit]

Your reversion of a recent edit to Lorde might have been a bit hasty. The editor was changing the piped link displayed as "Dalmatian Croat" to point to Dalmatia rather than Dalmatian Croat. The latter is a redirect to the former, and generally links in articles should point to articles rather than redirects. There is controversy about whether she should be considered Dalmatian or Croatian (I tend to think Dalmatian, since it is a specific ethnicity rather than a geography), but your reversion really didn't accomplish anything and may have undone a constructive edit. Just a thought. Dwpaul (talk) 22:40, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Dwpaul for visiting my Talk page. I have received "thanks" overnight for this edit.
I simply checked out the hyperlinking and corrected accordingly. Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 06:42, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
After reviewing MOS:NOPIPE, I concede the point. Dwpaul (talk) 14:49, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Possibly, partly, my bad! I created the Dalmatian Croat redirect, based on Croat article provenance – so-far, so-good. – Ian, DjScrawl (talk) 15:42, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
However, thanks to this chat, I've been back and noticed that Dalmatian Croat may be exclusive to the people of the Italian-ruled latter Early Middle Ages area – reinforced my the term Dalmatia(n) being currently exhaustively preferred on the Croatian diaspora (including Croatian diaspora#New Zealand. – Ian, DjScrawl (talk) 15:42, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Thus, Dalmatian Croat may in fact be skew into a historical idiosyncrasy, rather than a plication of the Croat/Dalmatian controversy-front, at Lorde#Early_life's ancestry. Other than the above applicability concerns, I don't think this is the place to argue that controversy-front (besides all present seeming to favour Dalmatian). IMO, use of Croat alone is contra-WP:CSB. Erring on caution, I'll follow Croatian_Chilean#Dalmatian-Croatian_in_Chile and re-edit to Dalmatian-Croatian. If that, or a refinement fails to stick (I reverted a complete ancestry wipe, hours ago), I think the matter's overdue for some Talk:Lorde consensus. – Ian, DjScrawl (talk) 15:42, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, agreed. Thanks also for reverting the "ancestry wipe," which I saw but which you had addressed before I got there. Dwpaul (talk) 16:03, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks and a pleasure. IMO: The only thing worse than <null> has been Yugoslavia:O
I think in this case the key is how the artist sees and describes herself. She brought up (seemingly unprompted) her ethnic heritage (vs. nationality) in the first 10 seconds of the linked video interview, so she would seem to value it highly. Dwpaul (talk) 16:03, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Heah :) I'm generally on the more zoological side of the bio'ing the living-strictures camp (if there's such a thing), i.e. notwithstanding being good-source cautious re. anything that might substantially be positively detrimental to character, if it's notable/useful and verifiable, it wants in. While also, driven by a people-over-corp's WP:CSB (There's a thing called hypertext, it was made for the simultaneous representation of cultural identity _and_ integration!)-ish morality. Thus, though a gratifying prospect, a smile of Ella's face is more confirming evidence, than an accomplishment. ;) Assuaging a loss of personal identity, in a room where a brand wants most all the oxygen, that's the accomplishment! ;) – Ian, DjScrawl (talk) 18:23, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
And, as every good rant deserves a soundtrack, so I commend the start of Róisín Murphy - Primitive (Live At Jools Holland) - YouTube on YouTube (from Overpowered, lyrics) :D –Ian, DjScrawl (talk) 18:23, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

V8 Supercars points system[edit]

Do you have a reason why you reverted my clarification of the mess that was the 2013 V8 Supercars points system? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.32.169.30 (talk) 04:35, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

You appear to be engaging in an edit war. Suggestion:
Take the matter to the article's talk page and start a sensible discussion, rather than just using the edit summary box to make your case.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 06:24, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough, but you seem to have taken sides in an edit war, which is unnecessarily inflammatory. There seems to be an escalation of regular contributors treating Wikipedia as their personal blog, and your action only entrenches the problem. Neither of you have presented a valid reason to reject my contribution. At least I put a reason in the edit summary. Maybe the two of you should start a discussion in the article's talk page, if you can think of a sensible line of reasoning to pursue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.32.169.30 (talk) 10:31, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your response. I shall take another look at the article ...
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 10:36, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
... and having done so, I support the revision added by 110.32.169.30 (talk)
Sincerely,
Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred

Thanks very much for your patient response to my frustrated retort. Gosh, why does this even happen: Why do we have to fight to get any deviation past regular contributors? Why do we have to go into users' profiles to find out whether they are invested or just have blinders on? Reverting contributions is becoming too common; there should be a record of these impetuous reverts on users' profiles alongside all these badges of merit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.32.169.30 (talk) 13:36, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Is it just me?[edit]

Hi GG-J. It is bad enough that I start getting Xmas catalogs in July but I am noticing that several of our Xmas film and TV show articles are getting edits that aren't useful earlier every year :-) We've skipped right over "Boooo" and "Trick or Treat" and moved on to "Ho Ho Ho" Cheers anyway. MarnetteD | Talk 20:46, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Michael,
Daft, isn't it! And we are still in BST.
Talking about nipping it in the bud, we shall be diligent.
Cheers!
Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 07:55, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
... and this unsigned IP complaint posted here – just before your's last night – is a bit slow on the uptake ...

I did not edit that page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.5.17.39 (talk) 19:18, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Quick Good job done!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 08:36, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for your thanks :) A fellow editor called Gareth...I can scarcely believe it! Keep up your great work. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 10:24, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Bracket[edit]

Apologies for missing out the reason for the revert. I'd intended to explain to the anon IP editor that this is the English Wikipedia, so we use English words rather than French ones. Crochet is a valid English word for a type of needlework (using hooks rather than needles), but crotchet is the (rare) alternative word for bracket. Dbfirs 21:12, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, D B Firs for visiting and your explanation. I have never previously come across this expression for a parenthesis. Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:18, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the thanks, and greetings from one formerly Celtic region to another. I'm not surprised that you haven't seen the term because it's quite rare, in fact I think it's probably obsolete (though formerly used in printing for the "square bracket"). The anon editor was correct in that the word does come from French, but it didn't retain its French spelling for most senses, only for the knitting sense. I'm not sure whether we need mention it at all in the article on brackets. Dbfirs 21:49, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I suppose that, if it is doing no harm, one might as well retain it.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 21:57, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Doctor(Doctor Who) - Dimensions in Time[edit]

Sylvestor McCoy returned as the current doctor at the time of Dimensions of Time so shouldn't it read Jon Pertwee,Tom Baker,Peter Davison,Colin Baker with Sylvestor Mccoy?176.255.34.208 (talk) 22:33, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Well, if as you say, he "returned", he did reprise his role, didn't he?
I objected to the two "with"s ... Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison and Colin Baker with Sylvester McCoy – with rubber dummy heads standing in for ...
Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 22:39, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I should really say he continued with the role because he hadn't yet regenerated into Paul McGann so he was the current doctor and the next part 'with rubber dummy heads standing in for..' could be changed to 'the 1st and 2nd doctors are represented by rubber heads'.176.255.34.208 (talk) 23:03, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Sure! I'll copy-edit that again later this morning. Thank you for your input.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 06:30, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 Done It now reads thus:
Sylvester McCoy was joined by Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, and the first and the second Doctor being represented by rubber heads, in Dimensions in Time, the programme's 30th anniversary 1993 charity special in aid of Children in Need. Except for the mannequin versions of Hartnell and Troughton, no two Doctors are shown on screen at the same time.
What do you think?
BTW I have indented your recent post here ... can you see how it works?
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh | Buzzard| — 08:41, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Deserved! Middayexpress (talk) 16:39, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
I say! That is most welcome. Thank you!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh | Buzzard| — 16:58, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Contrasting ability to "invent" and "adopt" in the evolution of modern human behaviour.[edit]

Dear Gareth,

You recently edited an entry of mine in "behavioral modernity", with the reason that it did not add any relevance. I'd like to explain the reasons why I'd say it is highly relevant.

As an -in absurdum- example: Chimpanzees can play simple computer games like pac-man etc. If one imply that if someone can be taught to apply/use behaviour invented by others as a definition that it therefore must be genetically capable of inventing the same, then one is implying that Chimpanzees are humans. Please note that it is an absurd example, only used to prove a point.

When it comes to modern human behaviour, there is no scientific evidence at hand to say when humans genetically arrived at a point where they could be -taught- modern behaviour, such as religious beliefs. There is an evolutionary abyss between inventing and adopting. Even today, only a very small subset of humanity has the capacity to produce genuinely novel ideas and concepts, but nearly all humanity can readily adopt those ideas and concepts once explained to them.

To my contributions, as the page was written, it implied rather sly that because artefacts, etc, were discovered at certain site locations, the people there must also have been genetically able to invent them! This is simply not possible to state. I'm citing the text as written: "Proponents of this view base their evidence on the abundance of complex artifacts, such as artwork and bone tools of the Upper Paleolithic, that appear in the fossil record after 50 kya.[11] They argue that such artifacts are absent from the fossil record from before 50 kya, indicating that earlier hominids lacked the cognitive skills required to produce such artifacts." They are implying that "producing" and "inventing" are interchangeable, which it is not. There is no reason to believe that people from 10 000 years ago would not have comparable capacity as humans of today to study at University and adopt the latest scientific results.

The only thing we know is that modern behaviour can readily be taught to people who are not able to invent it independently. We also know that around 80-50 000kYA there was a great increase in the development of human behaviour. These two statements implies that one cannot state that the presence of artefacts -proves- that those people invented them, they could have learned them from others.

This distinction is very important for people interested in finding out when humans developed the ability to -invent-, in contrast to developing the ability to -adopt-, modern human behaviour. With the evidence at hand, it could have been more than 50 000 years between the events! And, further, it is not necessary for "all" humans to have the ability to "invent". It's perfectly OK to have a huge increase in complexity of human behaviour, even if less than 1% of humanity has the genetic ability to "invent", since the reminding 99% has no problems with adopting those inventions.

Please feel free to adjust my previous contributions as you see fit. And please add my explanation here to the "talk page". I'm not very familiar with how these discussion pages work.

Best regards,

Dr Mattias L. Åslund — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.108.147.64 (talk) 21:22, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Dear Dr. Åslund,
Thank you for posting here and offering such a splendid explanation.
I have restored your revisions on the article and shall copy this thread to the article's discussion page for other interested editors perusal.
Please leave a note here when you have read this reply.
With kind regards,
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh | Buzzard| — 23:59, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


Message read![edit]

Dear Gareth,

Many thanks for reinserting the comments and your glowing review of the explanation!

I shall endeavour to edit the text again when I get moment to further illustrate the point more clear.

Best regards,

Mattias — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.111.100.250 (talk) 07:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

MG MGB[edit]

Hello Gareth! I'm new to Wikipedia but used to work in a classic car garage and noticed lots of classic car pages lack original tyre fittments, so am just adding when and where I can find information. For the MG MGB section I don't have a book with an ISBN to reference sadly, but on this site http://www.cinturato.net/page/index it notes under their "Classic Pirelli Cinturato" section that the MG MGB originally fitted Pirelli Cinturatos, and I have an old flyer from Pirelli which denoted the size 165HR14 for an MG MGB. Quite a few of the other measurements about the car lacked references so I thought I could just put it up there, sorry if I made a mistake! Also what section do you suggest placing such knowledge? Most if not all of the car pages I've come across lack such a place to list original tyre fittings, so I've been placing them logically where I can and I thought History was suitable for the MG MGB. Thankyou, --Longhudson (talk) 11:53, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Long Hudson,
Thank you for posting on this page.
As you will see here I am (still) an owner of a white MGB GT which I bought new on 5 November 1970.
I think you should put your edit at the end of this section here.
Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh | Buzzard| — 11:59, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
I have just done that for you, together with the reference you have provided. Thank you!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh | Buzzard| — 12:28, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Your signature[edit]

Hello, a friendly inquiry about your signature – it looks like it may contain a line break? In reading discussions it was confusing to me at first as to which text you wrote, or if your signature was just some sort of test edit.. see WP:SIGAPP. If I am alone in this please disregard this message. Thanks and cheers! — MusikAnimal talk 21:31, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Please provide a link to my particular post which confuses you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:13, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Apologies for my lack of response. There was no single post that confused me. It's just that signing on a new line is uncommon and at first glance it was unclear which text you wrote. This practice appears odd when you have a thread of shorter messages, particularly on a smaller screen, in my opinion. Thanks for your understanding. — MusikAnimal talk 16:53, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Good evening Musik,
I suppose I am a bit old-fashioned about layout – both starting and finishing a post – put it down to my generation. For what it's worth, I back that up with being meticulous about indenting (hopefully) to avoid any misunderstanding.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:04, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Oculocerebrorenal syndrome[edit]

The reason the line on the page regarding oculocerebrorenal syndrome was edited is because the statement, "Because it is an X-linked recessive condition, the disease develops only in boys, while girls are carriers," is incorrect. There have, in fact, been cases of oculocerebrorenal syndrome reported in girls, although quite rarely. Thus, if someone less informed were to visit the page, wondering if Lowe syndrome can occur in a girl, they would be very misled given the current wording. X-linked recessive conditions are by far more common in boys in the situation that they are not lethal during fetal development. But, suppose an affected male and a carrier female had a daughter with two affected X chromosomes - this girl is now an affected individual, not just a carrier. It can, and does, happen. X-autosome translocations and lyonisation are two ways in which this can happen in Lowe syndrome, in particular. Loi M. Lowe Syndrome. Orphanet Journal of Rare Diseases 2006,1:16. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.104.204.68 (talk) 17:06, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I have restored your revision and added the reference you have provided above.
Please leave a note when you read this. Kind regards, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:33, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Happy Halloween[edit]

Trick or Treat! Nos Calan Gaeaf Hapus, Gareth Griffith-Jones! I hope you have a great evening and remember to be safe if you go trick-or-treating tonight with friends, family or fellow zombie editors. Remember to put that Father-Jackum'-lantern in your front parlour window (for all the creepy neighbours to see)!! Happy Halloween! Uncle Bryn (talk) 21:53, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Help spread Wikilove by adding {{subst:User:Dainomite/HappyHalloween}} to other users' talk pages whether they be friends, acquaintances or random folks.

Cheers Martin! Great links as ever. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:14, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for "Nos Calan Gaeaf Hapus" tonight. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:52, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

The Snowman[edit]

Hi again. I can't remember it you have this article The Snowman on your watchlist. If not would you mind adding it. Like so many other of our Xmas themed articles it gets a lot of traffic for the next couple months. Some of it is even helpful :-) MarnetteD | Talk 20:48, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

 Done with pleasure! Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:51, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks. Your help is, as always, much appreciated. Only three weeks to go!!MarnetteD | Talk 17:15, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
... and counting!
Talking about perennial reversions, I noticed that you followed me to this wretch's Talk page (Contributions). — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:38, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Yep. Hopefully they will watch the film again and realize the errors of the way :-) The item is always special to me because I won a dinner bet about that plot point several years ago. MarnetteD | Talk 19:49, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Ha, ha! That is priceless ... well done.
Btw, four days ago I was enthralled when watching episode one of David Tennant's latest performance. It is a drama featuring a defending barrister. Keep away from the article because you don't want any pre-amble. I viewed it "cold" apart from a short interview on BBC One's Breakfast. I have just made this revision to David's page: Between late January and March 2013, Tennant filmed The Escape Artist for BBC One. Tennant plays a talented, junior barrister who is yet to lose a case. The series was aired on BBC One on 29 October 2013. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:15, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. I will keep an eye peeled for it. I can't remember if we ever discussed it but I liked the series Ripper Street a great deal (8th Dr Paul McGann was in one episode) so I was happy to see that a second series has been made and is currently airing on your side of the pond. I am also looking forward to Cardiff City v Swansea City tomorrow. I think they said that it is the first time two teams from Wales have met in the BPL but I could be wrong. MarnetteD | Talk 20:33, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I did not watch the first series but this week I had recorded the first episode and do have it on 'series link'.
So you watch football/soccer too. I never have, probably because I only played "rugger" ... now that is dating me.
Cardiff versus Swansea! Big rivals in EVERYTHING. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:50, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I wondered if your love of rugby might not supersede all else (and I do mean that as a compliment so apologies if it doesn't read that way) Yes I have followed the rest of the worlds football since I saw Brazil beat Italy back in the 1970 World Cup. For years US coverage of the sport was sporadic and most US sports yakkers were disparaging about the game. Now we get to see games from all over the world on the various cable stations. Ripper Street has some interesting byplay between the main characters - they are allies for the most part but upon occasion individual motives will leave them at loggerheads. This is one of those times when I wish we were neighbo(u)rs across the street - rather then the pond - from each other because I would just drop off my DVD set so you could catch up on the series :-) Enjoy the rest of your evening and your Sunday tomorrow. MarnetteD | Talk 21:09, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I would welcome that too. I watched episode one after my last post to you and was greatly entertained; although without the background history, it was a little confusing particularly regarding the American's presence. I am sure that as the story unfolds all will become palpable. Thank you for the endorsement!
You are possibly correct about my rugby ('!') Have a lovely Sunday. [18] and [19] — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:55, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Re talk page removals[edit]

Hi again. I saw your note on Masem's talk page. My understanding is that a user can remove any talk page warnings and, as Masem states it is understood that means they have read the message. The thing that can't be removed is "You are blocked" messages while the block is in effect. After a block has expired then that message can be removed as well. Now this is coming from my watching these situations and I could be wrong or missing some nuances that admins are aware of. Well, as I am typing this Cardiff has finished there one nil win in a driving rainstorm. Did you version of Daylight Savings Time end last night like ours did? MarnetteD | Talk 17:55, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Good evening Michael
That was exactly what I thought. That was my reason for posting on Masem's Talk, because the new user had immediately removed their notice of a 31 hours block.
Well done Cardiff City! Although I don't follow the game, my birthplace is so dear to me, so of course I am delighted.
No, we changed to GMT last Sunday at 02:00hrs BST. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:40, 3 November 2013 (UTC)←
Interesting to know. As a certified candlelight addict this season of earlier and longer nights is always my favorite time of year. A room full of candle glow goes particularly well with Beauty and the Beast, Barry Lyndon, Stardust and La Traviata with the last one being a New Years Eve tradition. On another note I am so glad that "The Day of the Doctor" is being simulcast since it means that I won't have to avoid wikipedia due to spoilers. :-) Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 19:46, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I thought talk page removal of a block warning was not allowed, but it is not an explicit case listed at WP:BLANKING (a declined unblock request, yes.) If this is really not the case, then BLANKING needs to be fixed. I didn't want to toss any more "you can't do that" type messages at the user without having something to back up the accusation. --MASEM (t) 19:48, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
On reflection, I am amazed that you, in your location, have been able to watch two Welsh teams playing live football. This would have been unimaginable not very many years ago. How communications have progressed.— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:16, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I have just enjoyed watching the second episode of Ripper Street, thanks to you, Michael, because, otherwise, I may not have seen the first. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Glad to hear it. You have some excellent storytelling in front of you. MarnetteD | Talk 00:51, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Line-up for Saturday[edit]

@ Michael.
The champions of two hemispheres will collide.[20] This is promising to be an outstanding game. But will Wales be a bit rusty for their first match of this season? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:14, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I checked my cable schedule and the only rugger for us available this weekend is a match between the US and New Zealand. Thus, I look forward to your assessment of how they look. I notice that there is a Wales v Tonga match on Fri the 22nd which is nice because it will give you something to fill the time until the 50th :-) BTW on the 21st An Adventure in Space and Time is airing. It looks very intriguing and has an excellent cast. It is on BBC America's webpage but an air date hasn't been announced yet. Have a pleasant evening. MarnetteD | Talk 20:54, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey, thank you for alerting me to two weeks Thursday; the 90 mins documentary drama does look promising and has David Bradley of Our Friends in the North in it. He is 11 days my senior. I had recorded each episode week by week onto good old VHS in 1996 and still have the tapes. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:39, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
You are welcome. Our Friends... is IMO one of the best serials ever made. The last scene with the four main characters in that little room illustrates how much can be said without using words to say it. When friends express their enthusiasm for Chris E as the Dr or Daniel C as Bond I get to (smugly) say I saw them years before those roles and I knew they were brilliant performers. Of course, the same applies to Mark S and Gina M and it would be remiss of me to not mention them. I recorded it as well when it aired on BBCA. Unfortunately, they aired with commercials so ordering the DVDs from Amazon UK was a top priority when I got my region free DVD player. MarnetteD | Talk 23:38, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Forgot to mention that the proximity in birthdays is always fun. I am exactly three weeks older then Stephen Fry. MarnetteD | Talk 00:05, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Good news from my cable TV. As I was checking things that will be on next week I found that the Wales v SA match is going to be aired next Thursday!!! I think that is going to be the first chance I have had to see them since the Six Nations clincher against England. Though it wont be live I am looking forward to seeing them play. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. MarnetteD | Talk 17:14, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
I thought you might enjoy looking at what is available through the high end Hammacher Schlemmer catalog I receive. Of course, if I had that kind of money I would spend it on a trip to the 2015 Rugby World Cup and go to see several games with you. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 17:14, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
I am pleased that you will be able to watch what turned out to be a truly thrilling game.
What an amazing catalogue! The Morgan confuses me: it is like an original, but how can it be? They stopped making three-wheelers in the early 1950s. It must be a replica. Yet it claims to be a Morgan. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:27, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
I think you are right that it is a replica even though the advert doesn't say that. The previous catalog included this gem from 1960s pop culture. It can't be an original either. Of course the big child in me wants this which has a slot car race track inside it (click on the pic on the bottom right to see it in detail) - now if I had that kind of money I could buy buy both of us a Morgan and we could still sit in a luxury suite for all of Wales games in the next world cup :-) I am pretty good at wishful thinking - heehee. MarnetteD | Talk 22:27, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
In my opinion, it does no harm to daydream. You have conjured up some ideal situations above and we would certainly have tremendous fun.
The catalogue is truly outstanding. Never seen anything like it before. Many thanks. Have a restful Sunday! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:23, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

Thankyou for err... your thankyou! (re River Nevis). You might also want to cast your eye over my other recent creation which was the picture article on Did You Know? yesterday and a bit closer to your heartland - Ffordd Pen Llech. While you're there you might also be so kind as to quality-assess it for WP:UKRD as well? Again, err... thankyou! Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 23:29, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

I shall be glad to do that. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:17, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
@ Bill  Done Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:11, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

Coffee please? Here is your cup of coffee cup of coffee cup of coffee cup of coffee cup of coffee .. right here! Hafspajen (talk) 09:54, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Just as I always take it: strong, black and no sugar or honey. Många tack! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:01, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
You are welcome (Varsågod)! What now, Everybody talks Swedish around here? Hafspajen (talk) 10:42, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Jag ska dricka det nu. Ahhhh! Bara jobbet. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:48, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Since that 'coffee' is apparently a casualty of systemic bias (or possibly French – no espresso included), here's some corrective lone bold bunny music :D Ian, DjScrawl (talk) 21:33, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Great rockin' video, Ian ... just right for a dismal, wet, November evening. Much too late for coffee. I am on the Cabernet Sauvignon now. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:34, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Jona Bechtolt and Claire L. Evans ... He is new to me; she sounds like a nice Welsh girl — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:43, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
And here's another (pictured) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:36, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Gwyneth Jones as Brünnhilde
Indeed! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:43, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Ha! … now two cups of Turkish coffee … but I do not want the sugar, thank you! Iechyd da! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:17, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
y templed wên, diolch am hynny! and have a great Sunday! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:03, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Ah! I like my spices. I understand now — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:55, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
I don't know about your "fascinating" —that looks almost "animal" — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:17, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
I am happy you liked the Yacht track, Gareth, and that the coffee's been upgraded to something of the proper viscosity. The track was in response to a nasty looking feint attack on your talk-page, just prior – the rest of my Yacht fav'es are catalogued at Last.FM  :) Ian, DjScrawl (talk) 08:07, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Good to hear from you again Ian. I fully appreciated your involvement here at the time, and thank you for being a friendly "watcher"! And thank you, too, for the link. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:50, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Good morning Ian,
I have "signed-up" on Last.fm. Many thanks for the link.Wishing you, "Good listening!" — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:11, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
I trust you're enjoying it, Gareth. It's the best music microblogging/collaborative filtering site around, IMO, with bonus radios and socialisation. Also a pretty good environment for sandboxing musical wikis. I've been there since the team were sleeping under their desks ;) What's your url?   – Ian, Last.FM/user/IanAR, DjScrawl (talk) 11:12, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Um … [21] … is that correct? Yours is longer. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:40, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

"Specific activity" et al.[edit]

"Hello, I'm Gareth Griffith-Jones. I wanted to let you know ... if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page."

Hello Gareth, I'm Jesse.

Flashing from here to there, I noticed an arithmetic error / typo in Specific activity ("m"illion should have been "b"illion) and fixed it. (My first Wikipedia edit, just btw.) The above notified me that it had been unfixed. The "unfixing" was re-fixed by another user, so no worries. I'm just curious about what got my fix flagged, (and how it came to your attention to begin with), and how I can avoid getting flagged in the future. I've gone to the minor trouble of signing up with my real name now, in hopes that's enough.

Regards, Jesse Nemoyer (talk) 03:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Hans Holbein the Younger:
The Ambassadors, 1533. The life-sized panel portrays Jean de Dinteville and Georges de Selve, the ambassadors of Francis I of France.
Good morning Jesse,
Thank you for registering. You will find that many aspects regarding your editing Wikipedia will be easier.
Please do not worry about my reverting your first edit! That was an automatically-generated flagged warning that should not have happened. Now that you are a "User", all will be well.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:32, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Post script: Thank you for posting on my Talk page … I have replied at yours too. GGJ

… and thank you, Stan, for your involvement. GGJ
Again, welcome Jesse Nemoyer, you'll now be notified of edits, with this account, according to your WP:Watchlist, usually pages you've edited and specifically selected – this will at least be on its notification page Help:Watching pages, I believe it's possible to receive emails for each edit.
BTW: 47 billion years! :O – More a question for somewhere in WP:MOS, but – What use are billions years, to man or beast? (a) A year is not constant, or meaningful, throughout the period. (b) A billion years is imperceptible to all but a tiny fraction of readers. Perhaps 11 kalpa(((1.5*10^18)/3.15569e7)/4.32e9) would be a better designation. :P Ian, DjScrawl (talk) 08:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
"I believe it's possible to receive emails for each edit."
Not in my experience. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:59, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I retract that email idea (a vague memory of rejected preferences settings). The closest seems to be some nifty/OWNy RSS action.   – Ian, DjScrawl (talk) 09:28, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
"Oh you are flattering me, Mr. Ambassador" — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:22, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
  • No I am not.
    No I am not.
    Above holding a summary of information from either all branches of knowledge or a particular branch of knowledge. Wikipedians collect knowledge disseminated around the globe; to set forth its general system to the men with whom we live, and transmit it to those who will come after us, so that the work of preceding centuries will not become useless to the centuries to come.
    Well, how do you say this in Welsh?

 Done
Cynnal grynodeb o wybodaeth naill ai bob cangen o wybodaeth neu gangen benodol o wybodaeth. Wicipedwyr casglu gwybodaeth lledaenu o amgylch y byd, i osod allan ei system gyffredinol y dynion yr ydym yn byw gyda hwy, a throsglwyddo hynny i'r rhai a fydd yn dod ar ein hôl ni, fel na fydd y gwaith o ganrifoedd blaenorol yn dod yn ddiwerth i y canrifoedd i comeIechyd da! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:37, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Wow, much impressed. I do like this language! And what is hynny, I catch this word often. Hafspajen (talk) 18:57, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
An example of useage: You have given me a cup of coffee.
I acknowledge by saying, "Diolch am hynny! Yr wyf yn sychedig." = "Thanks for that! I am thirsty."
We have gone full circle. Iechyd da! (Cheers!) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:09, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for referring to the big change. I had forgotten which country made such a bold decision. Of course, we are on the correct side of the road as the majority of the population are right-handed and therefore are right-sighted.
Yr wyf yn dymuno noson dda i chi — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Trust you are well Hafspajen, good friend! I have tidied the layout of this thread. Do you approve? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:13, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Sure, nice. What shall we do with this ? the header? Hafspajen (talk) 09:25, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Although it is somewhat cryptic, I would consider changing it. Do you have anything in mind? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:32, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Pretty torso
Of course our young friend Jesse Nemoyer had no idea what s/he (although I imagine a male Jesse, could be female) was starting back on 12 November.
But unless you come up with a brilliant alternative … and I could offer Full Circle … may leave it as it is — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:02, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
  • I might. A new article on jessie??

Being Latin, italicised et al. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:48, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Et facta est lux! Hafspajen (talk) 11:10, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Placuit et homo est. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:24, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Sic tibi, amice e Scandinavia. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:30, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Sic tibi, amicus Britannicus . -> funSymphonia nona, Opus 125 et nonnumquam "Choralis" appellata, a Ludovicus van Beethoven inter annos 1999 et 2010 scripta, est ultima symphonia compositoris et a multis eius "magnum opus" dicitur.
Ouch! I do not like bagpipes,either Scottish or The Rogues - Gravel walk. On the other hand, Beethoven — now that is music. His can not be equalled. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:37, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Love Beethoven too. One can't say anything but that he is a musical genius. But I like those Irish too, kind of cheerful. Feel like dancing when I hear them. But isn't any Welsh music than you like? Hafspajen (talk) 20:53, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, lots Hafspajen! Shirley, first, and then in no particular order ... Shirley Bassey, Tom Jones, Cerys Matthews, Welsh hymns, the Pontarddulais Male Choir and others. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:03, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
  • HOw about this one ? Gareth please get over to this talk page. I need you. I need a Britton about this problem. Take your expertise with you. Hafspajen (talk) 17:06, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Both classics. Wonderful talent. Anything special you want me to address on Talk:Cottage? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:11, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Want your oppinion on the topic, of course. You speak German no? Hafspajen (talk) 19:46, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Ich führte meine A-Level in der Schule - ond Das war im Jahr 1959. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:54, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Okay. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:24, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Indirect mention at ANI[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. I referenced this edit to your talk page, but not you by name. - BilCat (talk) 23:30, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Good morning BilCat,
Thank you for alerting me. It would originate from this. … what was intended merely as a polite indicator that as the OP s/he may wish to return to the subject … and then to have my post deleted instantly, is nothing short of appalling bad manners. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:15, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome. I'm trying to avoid the appearance of canvassing, but as I mentioned his removal of your post, I felt you ought to be informed, especially if you were to disagree with me. To be honest, I would have expected a bigger outburst from him had you not informed him of the conversation, and the resulting consensus was something he disagreed with. - BilCat (talk) 12:33, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Sometimes I wonder why we bother dealing with such as he. We try to be civil and constructive, but to no avail. At least the "username" is apt. I would prefer to add an adjective. My schoolboy Latin from decades age gives me puerile — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:44, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Schoolboy Latin?! Was this one of your teachers? :-) MarnetteD | Talk 19:31, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Hilariously funny and so original. Thank you Michael.
I had a wonderful evening of television yesterday: started with the third episode of Ripper Street, which just gets better and better, at 20:00hrs; followed by the third and final episode of The Escape Artist also on BBC One which took me to 22:00hrs – when I changed to BBC Two for the first episode of the second series of Hebbern; a half-hour break and over to BBC Four for another chance to see In the Loop – hitting the record button on my TiVo for Cabaret (1972 film) showing at 00:05 this morning on BBC One. I had, years ago, recorded it on a VHS tape but was glad to have the chance to record digitally. The whole lot without an advertisement. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:20, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
No commercials. Makes me green with envy to the point that I have to tell my friends that I have too much copper in my bloodstream. Cabaret is such a good film. I remember reading an interview with Christopher Isherwood where he (jokingly) said that the musical and the film were unrealistic because he would "never have had a woman in his bed." I did get to see the touring company here in Denver after the 1998 Broadway revival. The staging was very well done and the performances were excellent. No Alan Cumming of course. Speaking of Cumming Bernard and the Genie is another of my Xmas viewing traditions. If you haven't seen it I would say that it is well worth your time. If you have then you already know what I am talking about. MarnetteD | Talk 21:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

I keep forgetting to ask are you watching the first season of Ripper Street or the second which is currently airing in your neck of the woods. I want to avoid spoilers either way. We won't get the second season until early next year but I may order the DVDs so I don't have to wait - or put up with stinking commercials :-| Heehee. MarnetteD | Talk 21:56, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Watching the second series and wishing I had seen the first. You had alerted me to this new series and I am glad you did.
Although I had not known of Bernard and the Genie, when I read, "Written by comedy writer Richard Curtis" , I shall certainly look out for it. Thanks for the tip. Just been to LOVEFiLM to put it on my list and get, TBC ... Not currently released. Odd. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Your excitement for the 2nd season has me looking forward to it even more. Maybe the first season will become available to you at some point. There is an episode that features Iain Glen that is a step above the excellence of the rest of the series. I got my DVD of Bernard a few years ago but the article mentions that it isn't an "official release" - it might repeat on one of your cable stations - with luck! It is Curtis after Blackadder and just before his film scripts. Lenny, Alan, Rowan et al are wonderful in it. I'd keep my fingers crossed but I find that typing is a real pain when I do that. MarnetteD | Talk 00:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

In case you haven't already seen it[edit]

With the seven hour time difference I an always getting to WikiP after the news has hit your Sceptered Isle. this is the big item for today. Unfortunately it wont play outside the UK so I can only read about it. It might show up on our cable or I might have to wait for the DVD. I think it is wonderful for Moffat to give McGann's Doctor one more time in the limelight (HD limelight at that) since his time onscreen was so brief. Well the reply of the Wales v SA match starts in about 15 minutes so I gotta get through the rest of my watchlist. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 17:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Loved the Mini episode. Thanks! Tonight (second showing) we have this on BBC Two. Is Brian Cox known to you? Prof. Brian is a highly talented young man with infectious enthusiasm for whatever he touches. For example, he is playing keyboards on this hit which I *hate* because it makes me rememember Blair, Brown, Mandelson & Prescott(!) I missed this new Doctor programme on Friday so I am in for a treat. Hoping that it will be on BBC America for you. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:55, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Drmargi clued me into the fact that I could find the minisode on YouTube. I enjoyed it immensely and am so glad to have seen it before the 23rd. Yes I have seen a couple of Brian's series on PBS. I do still have to shift gears when I read the name because I have been following this Brian Cox since he played Trotsky in Nicholas and Alexandra - which also had Tom Baker as Rasputin. When I first saw the young Cox his enthusiasm and talking/teaching style reminded me a bit of Michael Wood. For me they both follow in the long line of TV teachers that include Jacob Bronowski, Carl Sagan, James Burke and David Attenborough. I am pretty sure that Cox's Dr Who show is going to be on BBCA but I'll find it online of it isn't. Well it is only Thur the 14th and I am not sure if we could amp up the excitement for the 50th anymore, but, we will probably find a way. I feel like a six year old anticipating Christmas morning. I guess that is what time travel is all about. HeeHee. Too fun! MarnetteD | Talk 20:55, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Badge of honour[edit]

I saw you saw this edit from our esteemed swearbox! I consider it a badge of honour, I was surely one of the few remaining Wikipedians that ol' Corbs hasn't told to f-off yet. I expect he'll "never return" again in due course.... The Rambling Man (talk) 15:27, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

It really made my morning, Rambling … I spotted it on your User page … your being on my Watchlist. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:49, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello Gareth. I hope you don't mind my muted welcome to your recent addition to my little 'Summaries' section? I'm a bit concerned that people featured in it might feel they're being laughed at (hence including one of my own summaries), and of course TRM and myself have 'a bit of history'. Though I see here that TRM doesn't seem to have minded... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 08:49, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Not at all. I was feeling that it may not qualify, but it did make me chuckle. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:00, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Something new, something old[edit]

The Shoe Tree in Morley Field, San Diego. The Shoe Tree in Frisbee Playground, Morley Field, San Diego fell down (allegedly on January 7, 2008, confirmed the following day), caused by a long period of rain.

Yes Sir, it was time to post. Hafspajen (talk) 18:20, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

I thought I saw John F Kennedy around six down. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:30, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Haha, It is actually from a Wickipedia article -> Love Land (South Korea) from the (external links) . Ther are all kinds of weird parks out there. HPJ (talk) 19:46, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, my friend for the Shoe Tree image! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:03, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

This is more like it![edit]

Good afternoon Michael,
It is half-time and the score is Wales 23 : Argentina 3
Two terrific tries.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:25, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Great news. The SA match was one of those where they got behind and just couldn't catch up. They must have felt like Sisyphus in the second half. The Argentina match is going to be shown next week on my cable so I am looking forward to seeing it. Cheers and enjoy the rest of your weekend!!! MarnetteD | Talk 15:31, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Final score: Wales 40 : Argentina 6
Argentina played very well but Wales had the edge throughout the match. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:27, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
So pleased that you can see it; some rugby played in its finest form. Four great tries and—horror of horrors—eight out of nine. Halfpenny missed one, but kicked eight — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:28, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
It is nice to get to see enough of their games that I am learning who the players are. BTW we do get the Brian Cox Dr Who special on Monday! Also, the clips they've shown of "An Adventure in Space and Time" are excellent. I wonder, if it is well received, whether they might continue with episodes for Pat and Jon. Mark Gatiss certainly has a love for the show along with being a talented writer that he could do it if they asked him. One week, two hours and 20 minutes to go!! MarnetteD | Talk 17:31, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Two more ahead. That's good about the Brian Cox show. I am sure you will enjoy it. Hope you have a lovely (rest of) weekend! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:41, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Confused about automobile parts[edit]

The comment to reversion https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Austin-Healey_Sprite&oldid=579894338&diff=prev reads

"wings" (UK) are not "fenders"(US) ... "bumpers" are "fenders" (US)”, which I don't follow.

My copy of the _Random House Dictionary of the English [read USian] Language_, (1st ed.) contains

wing,

def. 21: _Brit._, a fender of an automobile, truck, bicycle, or other vehicle.

So I'm puzzled---wherein lies the error?

In the US, `fenders' are around the wheels, while `bumpers' are at the ends.

      Best wishes,

Max Hyre (talk) 03:37, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Good Sunday morning to you, Max,
    To clarify, on an Austin Healey Sprite, the "bumpers" (UK term.) are bolted-on chrome—front and rear; the "wings" (UK term.) are around the four wheels.
    "wings" in the UK are not "fenders".
    I had understood that in the US, "bumpers" are "fenders" … we seem to be in agreement regarding "wings" … and referring to your post here, also with regard to "bumpers".
    Your revision here contradicts that.
    Cheers!— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:51, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Sandra Bullock[edit]

Hello Gareth! Thank you for helping to keep those information in the article. I put that part: she is often considered to be the biggest female star... but one guy removed them. This is the text I left on his Talk Page: Hi Hullaballo. I wrote that Sandra is often considered to be the biggest female star and you said it is only opinion. I feel the need to explain why I wrote that. Well, I think it is simple, but you may disagree. You will never find an official information that Bette Davis and Katherine Hepburn were the biggest stars of 40s and 50s, or Audrey and Merylin the biggest of late 50s and 60s, or Fonda and MacLaine of 70s, or Meryl Streep of 80s. But still in many articles and histories of film they will be referred as the most stellar. It is unofficial fact that Julia Roberts, with all those blockbusters (Pretty Woman, Nothing Hill, My Best Friend's Wedding, Runaway Bride) was the biggest box office draw of 90s, and that Angelina, with Tomb Rider, Mr. and Mrs. Smith and all the mess with Pitt-Aniston was the most popular actress of 00s. When we talk or read about today's most prominent Hollywood actresses, or, lets say: the most bankable, the best paid, the most popular, Sandra Bullock pops out on the top spot. I didn't say she is officially declared but often considered to be. I hope you got the point in spite of my bad English. Greetings!. Still, he had removed them. I also wrote that The Heat is financially the most successful comedy of 2013 in the United States, domestically, but another guy removed that, saying that the biggest box office hits are We're the Miller and Hangover III. They are, true, but not in America. He didn't leave any explanation. Again, thank you! And sorry if I made grammar or other mistake. --BetteDavis4ever (talk) 22:15, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Good morning BetteDavis4ever,
Thanks for posting here!
I agree totally. Hopefully the copy will remain there now. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:14, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Rick Scarborough[edit]

I appreciate your edit, but the term homosexual is an antiquated one that has negative connotations for many people. I have reverted the edit that I believe you made in good faith. For more information please see: http://www.glaad.org/reference/offensive Have a wonderful day! BTW: Your user page is phenomenal!Bill Heller (talk) 06:57, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Bill,
I understand and empathise with you entirely. In this particular context I had considered the original text to be more encyclopaedic. The acronym GAY – meaning (as) good as you, is fairly modern to a Welshman in his eighth decade, who regrets often having to explain the original meaning of the word … used from Elizabeth I's reign right up to the first half of Elizabeth II's … see Gay#Shift to homosexual.
Leave a note here when you have read this, please.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:36, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Post script Thank you for your praise of my User page. Gareth11:40, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I've read it and I certainly understand where you are coming from as well. I agree with what I believe to be your conjecture that there is certainly a generational divide on the appropriate word usage. As a twenty-three year old, I say with confidence that gay is the appropriate phrasing for my generation, but I am certainly aware that older generations may view it as pejorative. On a completely unrelated note, my dear Aunt Karen has just settled into retirement in the north of England I believe (or perhaps south Scotland, I am admittedly unsure), so when I saw your post about being a Welshman, I thought of her. Have a wonderful day! Bill Heller (talk) 08:47, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Bill,
Pleased to hear back from you. It is always good to know that my replying here is read by the addressee.
I do hope your Aunt Karen has a happy retirement. All the best, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:33, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Copyedit[edit]

Are you in the mood to sort out the lead for William Beach Thomas and perhaps tighten up the prose a little? Hafspajen (talk) 15:43, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

From a brief glance, I should say "Yes". What is your interest? Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:09, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Oh, nothing really, just an user Sitush had asked for help at Doctor Mies talkpage and he is most probably not going to get it, so I took the the liberty of doing some mediating. Or maybe he did get help, after all. Never mind, you can always watch the picture. Hafspajen (talk) 18:42, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Mmm HPJ … your girl is rather too skinny to my taste … so I have made a gallery to reduce yours in height … and found another one more shapely! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:41, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Some misunderstanding here than. By your post, I decided you like them skinny...
Hey! Steady on, old chap!
I added one. You have added four more to my gallery. My occasional readers may well have a "misunderstanding" — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
It is just art. You know what, I will add them to the article instead. Hafspajen (talk) 14:32, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
I feel rotten now … HPJ … Please don't be offended, good friend … I want to keep this one—Anders Zorn - Ateljéidyll.jpg|Zorn girl.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:09, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Sure, no problem. Just keep that one. and I might use some Copyediting on the Anders Zorn artice, it has some weird sentences! Hafspajen (talk) 7:16 pm, Today (UTC+0)
You misunderstood me. I wanted the first, Anders Zorn - I Sängkammaren, as well as Anders Zorn - Ateljéidyll.
Shall be delighted to copy-edit the article. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:26, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, please! Hafspajen (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
It is on my Watchlist. I shall start tomorrow morning as we are promised rain, and then more rain, but brighter in the afternoon. (tomorrow ... another skinny girl!) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:58, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey, I am done. It was quite fun. I had the general view of poor Zorn, that Zorn is the guy with the big girls. But I have to confess, I am impressed by him. He is a good painter. Actually, a very good painter. I mean, the lines, the colours, the shadows, it is really exquisite. Pity that people think of him in those terms (eh, the big girl terms) because, he should get much more credit for his workmanship. Also, Eugene de Blaas might need some tearing up too, in my oppinion. Hafspajen (talk) 22:58, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that you were very busy there last night. As promised, I shall give it the "once-over" later this morning. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:30, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Did you notice?[edit]

Just finished the Brian Cox Dr Who science special. The scenes in the TARDIS with Matt were tooo fun. Did you notice that Charles Dance was in the audience? The camera caught him three times - the easiest one to catch is just after Cox mentions spaghettification and we see him laughing with the rest of the audience. The special is a wonderful way to keep the celebrations going. MarnetteD | Talk 04:14, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Michael,
Yes. Isn't it all great fun! So much love and enthusiasm for the whole subject. Not only noticed him, I enjoyed his period wearing the scientist's white coat "on stage" with Brian. I thought Rufus Hound did well too.
Not having had a science education, I love the way Brian illustrates his knowledge.
On Thursday at nine we have the 90 minutes documentary drama, An Adventure in Space and Time, and I read that you will see it the following day; hopefully without commercial breaks (?) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:52, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Oh no. If Dance was onstage at some point that means we got an edited version of the lecture :( Rats! Thanks to Dava Sobel and his book Longitude (book) and the TV adaptation Longitude (TV series) I recognized "Harrison's Chronometer H5" right away. Unfortunately, we will be getting commercials during AAiSaT as well as the little BBCA logo in one corner. I will eventually get it on DVD so that I can enjoy it on its own. One major plus of the Saturday simulcast is that there won't be commercial breaks :) So at least I got to have one smile in this message. Heehee MarnetteD | Talk 14:49, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
You are right about the way Brian imparts his knowledge. For me Carl Sagan did the same thing with his Cosmos series back in the 80s. It lead me to read his books and to see a live lecture he gave here in Denver. MarnetteD | Talk 15:05, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Just to confirm that, the programme was 59 minutes straight through. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:40, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Yep that conforms things. Ours was 60 minutes but at least 15 of that was commercials. I'll keep looking for the complete version. It might even show up as a DVD extra one day. Many thanks. MarnetteD | Talk 20:15, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
You may well get the unabridged version; I hope so.
I am (in eight minutes) watching the first episode of the second series of Last Tango in Halifax—I really enjoyed the first series: excellent acting by the whole cast. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:52, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Superb television. Is this programme known to you? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:06, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes it is :) It has been showing on Sunday nights and it is excellent. There are many wonderful scenes to come for you. MarnetteD | Talk 22:12, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
M, I have amended my post to read: I am (in eight minutes) watching the first episode of the second series of Last Tango in Halifax—I really enjoyed the first series. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:23, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Then that means I have to amend my statement to read that "there are many wonderful scenes to come for me" as we have only seen season 1. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 23:09, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

If this story was in a film we would regard it is too improbable and dismiss the programme as nonsense.
Late tomorrow night, BBC Four is showing, concurrently, all four episodes of An Unearthly Child — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:58, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

What a remarkable story. First reaction is that it has to be from a heist. We might have a The Ladykillers situation. I have watched AUC many times over the years and I have to say that the first episode is a marvel. There are a number of audacious things that occur in it but I won't go into them since it would be a (hear River Song's voice at this point) "Spoilers" violation. Even with all the technology available today I don;t think it would add anything to make it better. Airing that story is going to make a nice twin bill with An Adventure... Cheeers. MarnetteD | Talk 14:37, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
I needed to make some free space on my TiVo so, as it was a horrible wet and windy morning, I took a second viewing of Jonathan Creek's Easter Special, "The Clue of the Savant's Thumb". I know you bought the DVD and when we discussed it at the time, you were not overly impressed. I have to say that I appreciated it more this time than the first. (I have deleted it now) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:49, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
I am sorry that I left that impression. I did enjoy it and was very glad that you had made me aware of it. I was also watching episodes of WhiteChapel and Ripper Street at the time so they may have been monopolizing my "enthusiasm meter" :-) I totally agree that second viewings of almost every thing TV and film can add to your appreciation of it. The DVD of Broadchurch is on its way to me and I know I am going to get more out of it this time. Please let me know if they find out anything about where the money came from. MarnetteD | Talk 15:02, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
For copyediting and calling the attention on the famous ( one can say at least famous here no?) Swedish painter Anders Zorn and thus ameliorating the article. Hafspajen (talk) 15:16, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
He is also famous, thanks to you, good friend, on this journal. I appreciate the award very much. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:19, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Who is the other one famous? Hafspajen (talk) 18:31, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Answered on Hafspajen's Talk page this evening — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:02, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Linking English and Welsh articles?[edit]

Hi Gareth, can I ask your advice? While trying to expand the English articles on local places (you noticed...!) I wonder whether there should be links to the Welsh articles with the same name, as there must be differences in content, naturally enough. What do you think? Or perhaps this is already done and I haven't noticed it. Cheers Tony Holkham (talk) 17:44, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Good evening Tony,
It is good to hear from you again. I am probably not the best person to get an official answer , I would say that they should not be linked, any more than we would link to, for example the German Wikipedia. If you want to, you could ask at the project Talk page. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Gareth, I'll check that out Tony Holkham (talk) 19:25, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello Tony. Gareth asked me to chime in. If you mean the links to other language wikis that are on the left side of an article I think those are added automatically as of last year sometime. If you mean a specific link of a word or phrase in the body of an article I have seen a mixed reaction to those. Some editors support them and others don't. I may have made things more confusing with this post so my apologies if that happened. Along with Gareth's Wikiproject Wales suggestion you might ask at the Wikipedia:Help desk or the Wikipedia:Village pump. Just finished watching the replay of Wales v Argentine - great stuff! Cheers MarnetteD | Talk 20:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for that, Michael.
Oh, I am pleased you watched it: it is a match to remember … I am so proud of the boys. Next is on Friday: Tonga. A link to give you the team news. Very much an opportunity for the seasoned Lions to rest and merited others to win a cap. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:25, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
You can see I'm still a novice by the fact that I hadn't spotted the language link in the left panel. It's answered my question, as I was just thinking of the title of the article rather than something in the text. Looking forward to Tonga. Thanks, both. Tony Holkham (talk) 21:46, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
You are very welcome Tony … at any time. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:53, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Consolations...[edit]

Oh dear, Gareth, it looks like the girl of your dreams has just upped and left! Seems even angels in heaven can give the cold shoulder - ain't life a bitch! PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:38, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

I am too upset to even enjoy my usual evening tipple — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:46, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Drink up! PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 21:08, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
"O, rydych yn hyfryd Boyo", which translates as "Oh, you lovely boyo", and must be said in a strong Caerdydd accent. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:23, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Revert[edit]

Why did you revert my minor addition to the Wikipedia Glossary? There are many abbreviations included in the Glossary and ME is a commonly used abbreviation. I can't understand why you would revert this small addition. Liz Read! Talk! 15:43, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Good evening Liz,
It made little sense to me, but I thank you for this link: Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Abbreviations#M and understand. I shall undo my editing.
No hard feelings, I hope? Kind regards, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:00, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

For the background ...[edit]

Good evening AnenomeProjectors,
In respect of this editing, I have copy 'n' pasted from my Talk page:

Peter Capaldi
What's the thinking behind the "DO NOT REVEAL THIS UNTIL IT HAPPENS" note - WP:SPOILER, or that we shouldn't report him being in a thing until that thing has aired? (In which case, why are we listing The Musketeers and Maleficent?) --McGeddon (talk) 10:47, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Good morning McGeddon, Not a WP:SPOILER
It is just absurd to show 2013 – present, when it has not happened
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:59, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
So in which case, why are we listing the 2014 productions of The Musketeers and Maleficent? WP:FILMOGRAPHY does seem silent on the issue of whether confirmed future roles should be listed. --McGeddon (talk) 11:41, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
The information is hardly hidden. It is at the end of the first paragraph of the Lead. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:01, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I hope this explains my motive.
With best wishes, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:39, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, it does. It does seem odd to say "to present" when it hasn't started yet, but I don't see that as a reason to remove it totally. Maybe remove "present" until it's started and just leave it open ended? –anemoneprojectors– 17:44, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
I am glad that you see my point, and of course I did not actually remove the copy. I think I shall leave it be. After all, we only have to wait four and a half weeks. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:56, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Ha! I see you have done it. Thanks! (again) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:00, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

The Archers[edit]

To my ears "first episode" sounds better than "first edition"? Arjayay (talk) 11:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

 Done To mine too. The word edition was already there(!) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:27, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Down to 24 hours[edit]

Hi again. well, it is no longer days but mere hours to the big event. With the worldwide simulcast of "The Day of the Doctor" it is going to be like we are in one huge living room :-) watching the special. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 19:36, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Fantastic, that is a great interpretation.
Well, I have enjoyed watching Wales versus Tonga, and am looking forward to The Graham Norton Show with David Tennant and Matt Smith as guests at 22:35 hrs. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:28, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
We get the Graham Norton show tomorrow night so it will cap off the celebrations. Three hours to AAST for us. The clips they have shown have David Bradley looking and speaking so much like Hartnell that it is spooky. MarnetteD | Talk 22:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
The show is taking a different format tonight: it is now more than half-way through and, apart from a little spoofing right at the start, I have not seen either actor yet in the actual show. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:06, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Hilarious! Wonderful entertainment.
Jessica Raine, playing Verity Lambert, is the actress who plays the leading role in Call the Midwife which I know you are waiting to watch.
Just in case you have not seen this: Behind the scenes of An Adventure in Space and Time
Cheers!— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:21, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Ms Raine was also in "Hide (Doctor Who)" last spring! An Adventure... was simply amazing. I have been reading and listening to interviews about the events of Hartnell's time as the Dr for over 30 years but this docudrama helped me to understand things in ways I never had before. IMO David Bradley deserves several awards for his performance. BTW Google has a fun tribute to Dr Who as its doodle today. It includes a little game where, if A Dalek "Exterminates" the Doctor he regenerates into the next one. 4 Hours to go Woot Woot. MarnetteD | Talk 15:38, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
I agree with your remarks about Bradley. I used to regularly watch The Army Game and it was fun seeing those snatches again after so long. No chance of recording in those days. Not long now! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:17, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Forgot to thank you for the "Behind the scenes" link, more good stuff. Along with TAG I was glad they mentioned This Sporting Life as his performance in that was remarkable. I was hoping that The Mouse That Roared (film) might get a mention as it is one of my faves. I just finished watching the 1st episode "An Unearthly Child" and the attention to detail in An Adventure... is another of its joys. The whole programme really was a love letter to all involved in creating DW. Wish I could send a JLawson thank you to each and every one of them. MarnetteD | Talk 18:31, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Also most impressed by Brian Cox's portrayal of Sydney Newman. I have just made the revisions there, and here. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:36, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

The Godfather cast[edit]

Good evening. I see you've reverted my edit to The Godfather cast, but I can't agree with your motives. Franco Citti's role in the movie is surely marginal; but not much more so than Corrado Gaipa's role as Don Tommasino or than Sofia Coppola's appearance, just to name two that are mentioned in the cast section. I think the cameo role of a famous italian actor is worth a note. Let me know. Cloverleaf II (talk) 21:24, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

 Done Good morning Cloverleaf,
I don't disagree with any of your explanation here. My revert is done
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:52, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Replied to, and answered, 'tother end — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:06, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Girl with the Dragon Tattoo[edit]

How is my editing disruptive? I am contributing free genealogy charts to help understanding of the novel. If you have read the book or seen the movie, you will appreciate how important the family tree charts are to following the story. Please explain which rule I am violating as I try to share my research. My charts have been cited as helpful by an independent columnist: http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2013/11/the-genealogy-of-the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo.html Sprezzatura (talk) 20:36, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I gave my reason in my edit summary, (Already reverted ... a blogspot.) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:51, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
My first link was to a blog, which I did not realize was a no-no. I transferred the page to an independent Website, to satisfy the guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sprezzatura (talkcontribs) 20:52, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Your revision would appear to be an attempt to advertise on Wikipedia. This is not permitted.
Thank you. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:51, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
I am an experienced genealogist with forty years of research to his credit. I have created, with considerable effort, family tree charts to illustrate the Vanger clan, central characters in the novel "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo". The story involves various members of the family and their relationships, which are quite complex. As a matter of fact the book includes a family tree chart which is inaccurate and incomplete. The charts that I am giving away, are of great help in following the plot. Please tell me, have you read the book or seen the movie? If you have, you will appreciate what I am saying. Yes, I write software and operate a company that is struggling to survive. That should not detract from the fact that I am offering something useful and interesting. The other External Link also points to a commercial site. Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater, and deprive Wikipedia readers of a helpful contribution.Sprezzatura (talk) 14:10, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
  • What experienced genealogist and genealogy? Genealogy also known as family history, and there is no such thing as the Vanger family in Sweden. Wrangel, yes, but not Vanger. Henrik Vanger is a fictional person.Hafspajen (talk) 15:20, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
You are missing the point: I am not implying that the Vangers are real. I am saying that the techniques to document and illustrate real families can also be applied to literary families, to help the reader understand the plot and action. Sprezzatura (talk) 15:05, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
  • But how can anyone know for sure exept the author? Hafspajen (talk) 15:20, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
It's documented in the book! I'm not making anything up, I'm just taking what the author writes in the book, and converting into a chart. Have you read the book? Have you seen the charts? The charts are an entirely different, graphic representation of what the author says in prose. By examining the charts, you can tell at a glance what is the relationship and position of each character. This information is not repeated after it has been initially exposited, and unless you are taking notes, it is difficult to remember. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sprezzatura (talkcontribs) 15:29, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
First of all, my sincere thanks to Hafspajen, one of my caretakers of this page, for answering in my forced absence from WP this afternoon and early evening. I cannot disagree with his comments here.
For my part, I have read all three novels and know that the author includes a splendid family tree at the start of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. I have made visual use of it in several of my replies to editors when confusions arise, e.g. uncle et cetera. Thank you Sprezzatura for pointing out the other (misleadingly titled) external link. I have just removed it too. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:11, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
The chart in the book is [1] Incomplete: does not go back to Alexandre Vangeersad, does not include Johann's descendants, does not show all relationships in the book; [2] Inaccurate: dates of Johann & Fredrik are different from what is given in the table p. 247, Penguin 2008 Ed.; and [3] does not include photographs which are very helpful in relating to the characters of the movie.
I request your cooperation in allowing the External Link to the charts to stand. (Should we be discussing this in the GWDT page, or is this the best spot? I am not familiar with Wikipedia practices) Note: Removing the other link would seem to be contrary to Wikipedia's policy "Wikipedia articles about any organization, person, website, or other entity should link to the subject's official site, if any." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sprezzatura (talkcontribs) 18:44, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
The one in the novel is sufficient for the purpose.
The American remake is not the subject of the article. The novel is the subject.
Therefore your closing remark here is not relevant. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:54, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in. This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help find a resolution. The thread is "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo". Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! EarwigBot operator / talk 19:45, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Here's a quick and easy way to resolve this. Sprezzatura has expressed a desire to donate his work for the betterment of the article. If that's a sincere offer, why not simply post the chart to Commons and link to that? Lambtron (talk) 22:02, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

As a dancer, Lambtron, you have dealt a sweet move. Yes, excellent suggestion!
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 06:38, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
  • KENT: Is this the promised ente (im Stadtpark Nürnberg)?
    EDGAR: Or image of that horror?
    ALBANY: Fall, and cease!
    King Lear, Act V, scene iii, ll 261-262
    When Lear carries Cordelia onstage, dead, Kent asks "Is this the promised end?
    Looks like this solves the problem. Very good. Hafspajen (talk) 09:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
I agree, HPJ. Would Guy Macon and The Earwig care to comment (?) Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |[[User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones|The Welsh]Buzzard| — 10:27, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Wasn't Earwig a BOT? Hafspajen (talk) 16:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Actually, no. Earwig was, and still is, a sysop. Administrators, commonly known as admins or sysops (system operators), are Wikipedia editors who have been granted the technical ability to perform certain special actions. Cheers, Hafspajen — you are rapidly becoming my favourite editor on WP — but why have you posted TWICE the images of a plastic duck here? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones &#12 4;The WelshBuzzard| — 19:25, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Duck =Ente= End, the end. The rest is fun. See giant duck. Hafspajen (talk) 20:05, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Entering Giant duck into Wikipedia Search ... first on the list is Non sequitur (logic) ... now that is weird. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:24, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes. The fallacy of the undistributed middle is a fallacy that is committed when the middle term in a categorical syllogism is not distributed. It is thus a syllogistic fallacy. More specifically it is also a form of non sequitur.
    How did that happen? It should have came Rubber Duck (sculpture)... Unless there is some kind of theory they call the giant duck theory - like the monkey theory. Hafspajen (talk) 21:03, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Clearly it must be an invasion of thought by the controllers of the giant duck theory. Help! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:18, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
You may well be right but we must keep the Irish from sticking their noses in here! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:56, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

re: "Ente", I have just been adding "im Stadtpark Nürnberg" to your legend. It required explanation — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:37, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Weather—snow? Hope all is alright for you. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:14, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Weather and wheather.. Am I doing anything wrong? Here the state of the atmosphere is cold, wet, stormy, and cloudy... Hafspajen (talk) 20:44, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
This is one of my big favourites: Yet you had to abort your trip. Has that inconvenienced you? You have not commented on my editing your legend. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:12, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
KENT: Is this the promised ente — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:44, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Loved that tune |^^î¨- (well nobody has invented that one) Do you want me to explain King Lear to you? ... King Lear, who is elderly and wants to retire from power, decides to divide his realm among his three daughters, and offers the largest share to the one who loves him best. Goneril and Regan both proclaim in fulsome terms that they love him more than anything in the world, which pleases him. For Cordelia, there is nothing to compare her love to, nor words to properly express it; she speaks honestly but bluntly, which infuriates him. In his anger he disinherits her, and divides the kingdom between Regan and Goneril. Kent objects to this unfair treatment. Lear is further enraged by Kent's protests, and banishes him from the country... and so on... Hafspajen (talk) 22:21, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. Who is Kent? And does it matter you had to abort your trip? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:38, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Please... Francis of Assisi in genuflection (painting by Francisco Zurbarán)Will you drop them a line?
  • If not now, later. Kent is Earl of Kent, often appearing under the disguise of Caius. And the whole story is terribly sad and tragic, buit is one of the great Shakespeare tragedies. (If anyone can like tragedies, but they have a sort of purification of the emotions). Yes, it looks like that this giant duck is (was?) in the city park in Nürnberg. Wonder if it is still there... Kind of hard to steal. Hafspajen (talk) 00:55, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
    Some days
    Some nights
    Yellow daisies dance by moonlight
    While the other flowers sleep
    and dream of love.
    And now is time for you to work on that article, as you promised...Hafspajen (talk) 03:44, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
I shall, but too much on today, Saturday, with the last of the autumn internationals: Wales versus Australia — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:31, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Ha! "How, AND WHEN, did Francis get onto this esteemed page? I have had to move the image down to [Section:"Girl with the Dragon Tattoo"] Yes, I hope Bracket does keep out of our talks ... for your sake!"| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 10:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Wasn´t I telling you, my dear: "Sorry for the religion"...Hafspajen (talk) 11:31, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Cottage[edit]

It is Cottage that you want me to copy edit, isn't it? — I have made a start, but have no more time today for WP so, not today, tomorrow. —| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 11:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh, yes, I recall that now. It was a few days ago and was puzzled then, and still puzzled now. How, can Buzzard help you on Talk:Cottage? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
You Brittish. You know cottage. You know world for traditional English choklad box tached cottage, name. You tell. Now. There. Hafspajen (talk) 12:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
  • You Brittish. You know cottage. You know world for traditional English choklad box tached cottage, name. ON TALK PAGE. We need a good name for the new article. Hafspajen (talk) 12:49, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Ha, ha! Hafspajen. Why, the "Gosh." and the "Here we go again."? Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:30, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
OH, just being restless. I had some bad time with somebody who tryed (Obsolete spelling of tried) to make the Doge of Venice and Genua into a dog... look here Someone spent a lot of time making this. And they want to put this into the dog article. Hafspajen (talk) 13:39, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Your current reading[edit]

Hi G. When you are done with A Murder of Quality you might want to track down the 1991 TV adaptation. Denholm Elliott's (an under appreciated actor IMO) take on Smiley is interesting to compare with Alec's. Speaking of DE you might see if this is available in your area. Now, it isn't quite as enjoyable as simply reading Thomas's celebration of childhood and Xmas aloud but watching it has become another of my holiday traditions. It makes a good twin bill with The Snowman. The Wales v Australia match was remarkable. Lots of entertaining play and several good examples of how the odd shape of the Rugby ball can lead to amazing plays and/or mistakes. Enjoy the rest of your week!! MarnetteD |}} Talk 16:46, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Good evening M.
I read his third (and most famous) in the early sixties, and in 1965 I adored the film adaptation with Richard Burton. I have read nearly all of his considerable list of superb novels and so impressed with the standard of his recent books,even though he is now ten and a half years older than me, but, I had not read the first two. So, I am starting right at the beginning and have just read and thoroughly enjoyed Call for the Dead.
I intend re-reading TSWCIFTC and then TLGW, et cetera and carry on appreciating his work all over again.
I thank you for the tip about Denholm Elliot. I agree that he is under-appreciated. I have had the nagging feeling all along as I read, that maybe I had seen an adaptation on TV years ago, so thanks! I shall track that down. I have checked with LOVEFiLM but A Child's Christmas is not listed. I may try purchasing it from Amazon (who now own LOVEFiLM) next.
For a neutral—and I do not count you as one—Saturday's match is a classic, and I shall watch it again, but too disappointed to do so at present. I already had the same opinion as Gatland subsequently reported here, but, as we all know, decisions cannot be reversed in sport. I enjoy sharing this with you.
I did an *amazing* flower arrangement before breakfast this morning. Oh, and yesterday I was pleased to see that the grocer has a good Welsh name!
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:08, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
I have just entered A Murder Of Quality onto my lovefilm list and I get, "Not currently released"| DVD, so I shall probably be buying that too. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:16, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the link about the try that should not have been. You cannot go wrong with any of Le Carre's works and I have found that his post cold war works have been every bit as interesting as those that came before. I hope that you will be able to track down the DVDs. A Child's Christmas in Wales exteriors were filmed in Montgomery (Wales not Alabama) and it looks wonderful. Only three days in and the calendar has already given us a great deal of fun. I wonder what tomorrow will bring? MarnetteD | Talk 01:34, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
It is great fun and so wonderfully produced; the attention to the tiniest detail is meticulous.
Gatland is the main rugby news today UK High-Performance Coach of the Year.
Since reading that on the web, I have just watched a live interview with Warren on BBC One's Breakfast. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:21, 4 December 2013 (UTC) & 09:48, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Now that is a conservatory! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:26, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Too true. No hitting the top of your head on that ceiling :-) MarnetteD | Talk 18:42, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
In case you haven't already noticed I thought I'd let you know that if you go to the library and click on the next volume of the encyclopedia in the center of the bookshelves they will open to give you a description of that days event. MarnetteD | Talk 20:23, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Oh, that is excellent. Thank you for pointing that out … I have now read all four … and may never have noticed the links. There is so much content throughout. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:46, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Don't miss the book at the bottom right that lists the music that plays and who composed it. MarnetteD | Talk 20:27, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
The calendar of two years ago also had the moon in the night sky follow the phases from new to full match up with the real world. I haven't noticed if that is happening this year yet but it is another thing to look for. MarnetteD | Talk 20:37, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Another thank you! Now that is "Spooky" Good full moon here! I had earlier today been wondering how to identify the delightful music, apart from the five that are listed under "music player".
I shall watch out for the moon. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:46, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

The 1963 novel, I am now currently re-reading – see above. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:49, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

My uncle, who was in the business in Europe during the Cold War, said that Le Carre was the best and most realistic of the writrs on the subject, and this was one of his personal favorite for its verisimilitude. 7&6=thirteen () 21:04, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello Stan!
Did you notice this thread? You will read that I originally read it soon after publication.
Had not known you were still "watching". I am pleased. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:11, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
You don't get rid of me that easily. 7&6=thirteen () 21:30, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
@ Stan,
Thank you for losing the red! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:38, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Just remembered we were in the middle of the T-shirt saga twelve months ago. Dried up (?) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:35, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Trinkets, and they fought over them like they had value and this was a zero sum game. Sad. 7&6=thirteen () 15:24, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

MG Cars[edit]

Hi Gareth Griffith-Jones. Would you care to give an opinion on the value or otherwise of this latest edit? Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 00:08, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Eddaido,
I believe that I am of the same opinion as you. I have copy-edited both legends with cryptic WP:ESs.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:56, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Please tell me why I have lost the reference from the image legend, after moving it from the lower image to the upper image with this revision
Thanks in anticipation, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:50, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
  • The ref got outside the picture frame. Hafspajen (talk) 10:32, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks my good Swedish friend! Well-spotted …
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:44, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Hpj, I wish the ref of this match … a "great game of rugby" … had also "got outside the picture frame" on Saturday … — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:53, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for that Hpj
Post script: I must stop the background colour running at this point. Done — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:06, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Winter[edit]

  • Have you got any snow? We have quite a lot of it over here. Came this night, there was a big storm for several days and now 3 inches snow! Hafspajen (talk) 12:35, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
So far, none.
In the south of Great Britain it is unusual to have snow before January. Then the whole nation lives on the edge of a razor. Not like you Scandinavians who take it all in your stride! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:02, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
We have a bit, and it was enough to have a truck block a narrow road, so I (and others) had to drive backwards for a detour. - Did you vote? The next group will look at facts better (see the infobox on my user page) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Your poor neck. Hope it wasn't too far.
Just been to this page. Sorry to tell you that I did not vote. Dear Gerda, Please forgive me! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:34, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Post script and she seems to have a lot to say. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:38, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Oh, don't be sad. It is damn cold! People need to scrach the snow of from the cars and the key won't get into the door. Hafspajen (talk) 15:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Just for curiosity: did you read this page because I recommended it or independently? I like its brevity. We need arbs who look at facts, - please vote ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
(… because of your recommendation) … now I thought I would vote for GorillaWarfare) … any comment? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:52, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
In my collection, some got Precious, - sorting that by date is an interesting aspect (28bytes is #1, not only in alphabet), and clicking on it tells you why, - that should answer your question ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:10, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you Dear Gerda,
Perfectly clear. I have voted here. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:25, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
  • What about a
This user is a WikiDragon
making massive, bold edits everywhere.
? Hafspajen (talk) 16:41, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Gosh and Golly Gosh
What a shock to switch on after being out all the afternoon and early evening, to discover this huge,fiery beast. Nevertheless, he is most resplendent. Thank you for finding and giving him to me! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:14, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Post script: See this! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:21, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Thought it will make some impression... Very nice, and they do them smaller too... Hafspajen (talk) 21:44, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Another seasonal item or two[edit]

Hi again. Here [22] is another of my favorites to view at this time of year. I saw the ...Mouse story when I was young and it taught me so much about "Silent Night". When I found this DVD I still enjoyed it and was delighted to find a cast member from Love Actually in it - I won't tell you who so you can have the fun of finding him. The CCoSC is an absolute treat. Jon Pertwee plays a psychiatrist trying to help a neurotic Santa - played in a pitch perfect manner by James Coco. It is also very educational in its coverage of all things St Nick. There are a couple delightful lines referring to Pertwee's career. I don't know how difficult tracking this down will be - I think that they are available on YouTube if you can't get them anywhere else. Well the countdown to Dr Who's 50th was so special that it has been hard to gear up but we are now less than three weeks from the next regeneration so it is time to get the engines going again :-) Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 22:41, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Ha, ha! Looks like great fun — thank you for alerting me to it. Yes, I am really looking forward to the Capaldi Doctor.
I spotted the template discussion when posting earlier and sleuthed around to find its use by you; unhappily, it could well be applied to this character giving me grief on Sandra Bullock.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:56, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Ugh sorry that you are having to deal with that. In case you aren't already aware you should know about this User talk:Mark Arsten#Sandra Bullock. You might want to post here Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard to get more eyes on the situation. Regards. MarnetteD | Talk 23:20, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Oh! I had not noticed that. Thanks for the heads-up! I presume that he's approached the admin, Mark Arsten, because of these.
He has attracted no favourable response, whereas Hullaballoo Wolfowitz‎‎ has reverted him once, so I do have support.
BTW No joy with LOVEFiLM.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:40, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Someone approached me on my talk page about this edit summary. Just an FYI, but HW is not actually an admin. Not that being an admin really matters in a content dispute, but just thought I'd mention it. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:46, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Mark.
I have no idea now what led me to believe that HW was a sysop, but it was a genuine misunderstanding of mine at the time. Please explain to HW that I had no idea that I was elevating him to the lofty heights — Sincerely, —Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard's Contributions| — 17:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
He has the reviewer topicon on his userpage, which does look like the admin topicon, that was probably it. No worries. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:56, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy Saint Lucy's Day![edit]

That's interesting. I read, "St. Lucia’s Day is celebrated most commonly in Italy and in Scandinavia, with each emphasizing a different aspect of the story. In traditional celebrations, Saint Lucy comes as a young woman with lights and sweets. It is one of the very few saint days observed in Scandinavia."
I have made the edit. Could not resist doing so. This wikilark is intoxicating! Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:13, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
  • If you have any young woman, in the house, that is. This day anyone can came into one’s room 5 o’clock with coffee, cookies (usually saffron buns) and lights and songs… People at the university have their students sometimes home in the morning, children go in to the parent’s room, and grandpa can walk around and wake everybody up with songs, the one who is up first, wins. But treats is a must-, and even in workplaces there is feast and song everywhere. Actually there is a detective novel about a murder done this way, with a woman in white entering someone’s room in the morning serving poison, by Maria Lang (a kind of Scandinavian Christie).Hafspajen (talk) 13:44, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Er … "If you have any young woman, in the house," … If only … Sounds like it's a great fun day.
And thank you for the "thanks"!  – The Welsh Buzzard — 13:57, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Welcome, and the only thing one can do nowadays without everybody noticing it... Gareth, why is this that some days you are red and others blue? Today is friday. Hafspajen (talk) 14:30, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Answer(s)
(friday) I know [sarcasm]
(noticing) Correct. Everything we write is being watched and reported to admins.— I have a case in point, at present, which it would seem that you've "noticed".
(signature) I do it 'cos I think it looks a little repetitive or (samey) if my signature looks indistinguishable from each other all over this page
Sincerely, —Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard's Contributions| — 17:45, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Oh, I see, you are green now... So it's not day oriented. I mean, not one colour for every day... What colour is Friday, anyway...? Or Monday? Hafspajen (talk) 17:54, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Oh, no, Hpj ! Doing that would defeat my object. "Variety is the spice of life!"| The Welsh Buzzard's Contributions| — 18:09, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes, I can imagine that. Hafspajen (talk) 18:43, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Any thoughts, Hpj, about this thread ? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:49, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Sorry, was entangled into the branches of the Christmas tree today. Generally, yes. Adults guys vear the Ku Klux Klan outfit (stjärngossar) (white hat and long white dress, and small children can wear the small dvarfs nisse outfit, or som will put on costumes as a gingerbread man. Hafspajen (talk) 22:22, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Swansea meetup/editathon[edit]

Hi Gareth,

I came across meta:Meetup/Swansea/1 and it said to tell any South Walian Wikimedians you know, so I'm telling you!

Yaris678 (talk) 11:58, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Yaris — I have replied on their page.
 Cheers! —Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 13:19, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

The Dragon Keeper[edit]

From what I have skimmed over this is the name of a book. I'm sorry if someone has recently commented on it but to my knowledge I didn't even know the book existed. I don't think it was me whom added to it but if that is what your computers says then that is fine. I just have had no contact on knowledge with this book before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.240.19 (talk) 09:00, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

re- Dragonkeeper
Commenting on my warning of 9:47 pm, 23 August 2012, Thursday (1 year, 3 months, 23 days ago)
Thank you for posting on my Talk page this morning at 09:00 hrs.
If your IP address is shared, please consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid any further irrelevant notices. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:25, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Turtling (sailing)[edit]

Wikipedia:Randy in Boise and Dunning–Kruger effect. The Amateur vs. the Astronomer :User:Jnc/Astronomer vs Amateur good discussion and use of The Moon is made of green cheese in Wikipedia. Ignorance triumphant (see the talk page). A good reason to not get involved in WP:DYK. 7&6=thirteen () 13:46, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Great links; all makes for very amusing reading, but I say, 380 edits — is that your record on one article? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:04, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
I don't know. I don't do a lot of articles, but when I really latch on to one, I try to make it the best and most useful it can be. I think I did more on Outhouse (most of those before I became 7&6=thirteen), and more on Frank Murphy. Of course, my standard for what is a good article and wikipedias are quite different. I try to address the needs of different levels of reader, which apparently some of our admins don't like. Glad you liked the links. It is supposed to be an electronic web-based encyclopedia, integrated into other articles. At least that's my personal vision (for which nobody gives a crap). But that's why I started with Outhouse, metaphorically speaking. 7&6=thirteen () 18:30, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Four articles I am particularly proud of[edit]

American Museum of Magic, Mountain dog, Trial film and List of magic museums all of which I created. List articles are generally disfavored, but I thought these useful and they have survived. Lots of edits in them. I thought they all served a particular unfilled niche.User:7&6=thirteen

Most impressive, Stan — all four articles (I corrected the sub-heading.)
I notice you've adopted my edit counter, now on your page; not sure about your having it in the sub-heading though (?) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:55, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
I just dumped the edit counter there temporarily. Not sure where to put it. Good idea! If you have not seen it (I imagine you did) Anatomy of a Murder is {IMHO) the best trial film of all time. Written by a lawyer who became a Michigan Sperme Court Justice, then quit to write for Hollywood and fish for trout.User:7&6=thirteen 19:01, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
In my opinion James Maitland Stewart could do no wrong. I saw him on stage in London in the Harvey revival, during the mid-'70s. Wonderful actor. It was 1975: "Stewart appeared in a West End revival at the Prince of Wales Theatre, with Mona Washbourne in the role of Veta."

— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:15, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

My father had a particular fondness for him. He admired his real service in World War II, he didn't just make movies, but actually put his ass on the line flying bombers.User:7&6=thirteen 19:22, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
He did. This is one of my favourites. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:30, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
I totally agree. Really good movie with awesome performances. Good script about Glenn Miller, too. I take it y9u saw Jimmy Stewart in Harvey in the West End. The movie was memorable.User:7&6=thirteen 11:28, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
A couple filming location items for your perusal. Many of the exteriors were filmed in and around Denver. It captures the city in the mid 50s. As happens today only the capitol and a couple other buildings still exist. There was one scene filmed on the University of Colorado campus. He briefly went to school there. It is the one where soldiers line the walls and windows to listen to Miller play. Interestingly, it comes in the latter half of the film and the scene is set in the UK (I forget where as it has been several years since I last had the pleasure of watching it.) Cheers to you both. MarnetteD | Talk 00:05, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks M for that. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Nice[edit]

  • Would you be interested to help out in a section Decoration on the Christmas tree? It would be a rescue you could be particularly proud of... SagaciousPhil and I gave up, recently. Hafspajen (talk) 19:23, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
I have had a look at it. I suppose the question is why [did you both] "... gave up, recently." ? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:29, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
  • We are probably not as bold as you are... and the Christmas tree one is beyond our capabilities! Hafspajen (talk) 17:06, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Your "capabilities" Mmmm? I wonder if mine can tackle such a superfluity of verbiage Sincerely, —Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard's Contributions| — 20:07, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Then we declare the article hopeless and we don't care. Hafspajen (talk) 21:07, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
"You win some; you lose some" dear friend. Have you noticed that I have another Swedish colleague visiting here? Are you two acquainted?
'allo, 'allo! | — 16:00, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
  • You have another Swedish colleague visiting here? Who? Hafspajen (talk) 13:42, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
No, not the good Doctor, not An Adventure in Space and Time — have a glance down this page to the section, 4th Millennium book — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:52, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Gareth Griffith-Jones, you attract the Swedish somehow... they swarm arround you happily.
Sort sol
Sort sol — starlings at sunset
swarm, flock, throng, horde, mass
Are you two acquainted?
Buzzard 22:05, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
  • I didn't had the pleasure yet. Hafspajen (talk) 22:38, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Also this gentleman, User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång, lives in Sweden and we have been corresponding on both this page and his for fourteen months.Buzzard — 10:57, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Try putting "User talk:" in front of it! That tends to help with this social network's identification process — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:08, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I did not mean on this thread; I could have done that — that would have been too easy. Of course it is "taken" — "taken" by my WP friend. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:33, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

I should not have thought so with a Talk page history like this! — virtually four years of nothing. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:32, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Hhahaha. That was funny! Hafspajen (talk) 21:51, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Love Actually reversion[edit]

Thank you for note letting me know why it was reverted. Am trying to make a contribution, but also trying to find my way. I appreciate it. (btw, on a completely unrelated matter, being mostly Welsh myself - grandparents from Abertillery and Six Bells - like the Welsh flag on your page) Onel5969 (talk) 01:19, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Onel5969,
How kind of you to write here. Thank you!
It is difficult settling in here and I am sure you will do well with your positive, tolerant attitude. I found that small tweaks and substitutions draw less reaction as that gives other interested editors an easier job of evaluating your current revision.
Your prose there is good and you should revisit that section in my opinion — I shall watch with interest.
Harry, Karen and Mia
Harry (Alan Rickman) is the managing director of a design agency; Mia (Heike Makatsch) is his new secretary. At work Mia constantly flirts with Harry, who at first is a bit befuddled by it. At the Christmas party for his company, Harry dances with Mia, which is wife, Karen (Emma Thompson), notices while she is speaking with Sarah (Laura Linney), who also works for Harry. Following the Christmas party, Mia's flirtation continues and she asks Harry what he is getting her for Christmas. He shrugs it off at first, but after thinking about it, he calls her and asks her what she needs. She replies she doesn't want something she needs, but something she wants. Later that day, while Christmas shopping with his wife, he picks out an expensive necklace from jewellery salesman Rufus (Rowan Atkinson), who elaborately wraps while Harry becomes increasingly nervous with the fear of detection. Rufus' delay in wrapping the gift causes Harry to leave without getting the necklace, as Karen shows up, but she notices that he is shopping in the jewellery department. Meanwhile, Harry's wife Karen (Emma Thompson) is busy dealing with their children, Daisy (Lulu Popplewell) and Bernard (William Wadham), who are appearing in the school Nativity play. Later on, Harry goes back to the store and purchases the necklace for Mia, leaving it in the pocket of his overcoat. Karen accidently discovers the necklace in Harry's coat pocket and assumes it is a gift for her, putting it back. On Christmas Eve, just before they leave for the pageant, they all get to open one gift. Karen chooses the gift which looks like the jewellery box she found in Harry's pocket. When she opens it to find a Joni Mitchell CD, she is confused, then incredibly hurt. After the Christmas pageant, she confronts Harry over the necklace and he admits his foolishness.


From your datestamp above, I am guessing that you live in the U.S. – glad you are proud of your Welsh ancestry.
 Sincerely, —Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard's Contributions| — 10:41, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Post script: Please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field — less likely to be reverted (!)

Thanks for the further advice. Look forward to seeing how you like other small edits I make.Onel5969 (talk) 14:46, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Another one for the watchlist[edit]

Hi again. You might add this Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (TV special) to your watchlist if you feel able. We are having trouble with rumors being added to the page - a bit like the rumor that Jamie flew from Marsailles to Portugal in less that 30 minutes :-) Thanks for your time. MarnetteD | Talk 01:37, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:06, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

4th Millennium book[edit]

I believe this was one of those Oxford comma situations - the author and biographer as opposed to the author, and biographer. I changed the wording to remove any ambiguity. We may of course want to add some additional sources in English. Some should be available by now. --Hovastro (talk) 22:29, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Good evening Hovastro,
I shall look forward to reading them — the sooner, the better.
Seriously, do you see it happening with the intransigence of Eva Gabrielsson? And if so, would it be credible? Sincerely, —Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard's Contributions| — 23:13, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
That has been a cause of some major debate in Swedish media today. We'll see. I think the novel has a very good chance of being released as the official sequel, but I don't see it as likely that any of the already existing unpublished material will be used unless Gabrielsson can be brought around. --Hovastro (talk) 23:20, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
So Hovastro, rather similar to the situation after Ian Fleming's death in 1964 when a continuation novel, Colonel Sun, was written by Kingsley Amis (as Robert Markham) and published in 1968. Fleming's wife, Ann, did not endorse any further Bond works and disliked Amis, saying that he would create "a petit bourgeois red brick Bond".
In my opinion she was not wrong. —Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard's Contributions| — 23:28, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
I think there are some parallels between the new writer, Lagercrantz, and Larsson when it comes to their professional background. Lagercrantz has spent a lot of time doing crime journalism and was one of the main journalists working on some of the most spectacular Swedish cases back in the 80s and 90s, like the Åsele triple murder. However, Larsson had a strong socialist, working class background and identity, whereas Lagercrantz was born into the Stockholm liberal upper middle class intelligentsia. So I guess there might some cause for alarm regarding one of the most iconic heroines of modern crime writing suddenly going a bit petit bourgeois, at least relatively speaking. On the other hand, the Ibrahimović biography is very much an underdog story which opened many eyes to the struggle of a poor immigrant family, so maybe not. --Hovastro (talk) 13:45, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Glad to read your comments. Thank you. We wait with apprehension. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:06, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Mistake[edit]

In the book, they were known as Cyklops Stormwalkers, not just Stormwalkers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.202.182.50 (talk) 14:24, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Nope. Not my work as you will see here.
I reverted your edit here on October 2, 2013.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:50, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Post script: I have restored your Cyklops edit to Leviathan (Westerfeld novel). Please leave a note here when you have read this. Gareth Griffith-Jones 15:44, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Helpme 20 December 2013[edit]

What does this mean on a film article: "Add anchors for relative links"? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:22, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

I believe the answer is here: WP:ANCHOR. From the "relative" bit, I'd guess for reference to another part within the same article. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:53, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, Yngvadottir. So it is within Link — curious. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:01, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

See my revert on the film's page. You usually aren't one to fight reason, but you seem to be today. If editors don't even find Christmas notable enough to mention as a release date, how is Boxing Day notable enough? Why not just leave it at December 26? And as another editor pointed out, how is the UK release even really relevant in the first place? Please, if the release date must stay, stop making it Boxing Day. It isn't helpful at all, especially since the article is for an American film, and 90% of the Americans I've met since moving here tilt their heads at the mention of Boxing Day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Corvoe (talkcontribs) 20:20, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't know who wrote the previous unsigned comment but I was the one who first removed "Boxing Day". Wikipedia often suffers from being too American, making references to local holidays and local abbreviations, but the same rules apply to other countries, and local references should be avoided (also the only citation provided for release dates in the intro makes no mention of the UK December 26 or "Boxing Day" which is why I said I did not think it was WP:NOTABLE). Ben Stiller might be clever enough to reference local culture in his interviews but an encyclopedia must write thing differently, more generically, in a way that hopefully still makes sense in the future
Any further comments from me will be on the article talk page, so that other editors might see them and we might gain consensus. Talk pages on individual pages are not a good idea, they often lead to personal comments instead of comments that are only relevant to the article. Especially since I'm an changing IP Editor I will not see any responses if you try to make them on my page. -- 109.76.88.164 (talk) 03:33, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you Edwin "Ed" Crooks for posting here, although you forgot to sign & datestamp
and another thank you to IP:109.76.88.164 (talk) — what both of you write above makes sense.
In mitigation, I should add that here in "the old country", we never say December 26th, but always refer to the day following Christmas Day as Boxing Day and if Christmas/Boxing day/s fall on a weekend day, the subsequent national holiday/s are referred to as bank holiday/s.
I hope this helps to explain my intransigence last night. Put it down to a glass more than usual!
Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 10:46, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
For your diplomacy and well chosen words that made them to an allround classic, (somewhat like Shakespeare). Hafspajen (talk) 16:56, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
I feel humbled; you are charitable and benevolent. Thank you. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:01, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank YOU!!! And thank you saving my page from running around and poor Phil...! Hafspajen (talk) 19:18, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

Thank you, Hpj! "Mine is in the post." — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 01:00, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy Holiday's[edit]

Thank you, Freedombulls! "Mine is in the post." — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 01:00, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Christmas lunch[edit]

Do you think you could encourage someone to revise the section on the United Kingdom Christmas lunch. It reads poorly, is poorly sourced and makes statements that are not backed up by examples. I took time to re write and reference but find another self appointed guardian, who you have commended in the past, has removed my work with not a bye or leave. This is supposed to be a democratic forum but increasingly the common courtesies are being ignored.Please feel free to check some of my work on this site to see I am not a crank. I have written the following articles from scratch: Thomas Medwin, Louis Lepine, Arthur Henry Neumann, John Guille Millais, Deborahe Glasgow. ~~dorkinglad ([[User talk:dorkinglad|talk]Dorkinglad (talk) 19:46, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Guajona[edit]

You reverted my edits to the Guajona article. While I agree that my removal of the article from the Vampires category and application of a new category is problematic, you also reverted my edits to the sentence structure and wording of the article, which I thought would be uncontroversial - the article in the previous/reverted form is full of mistakes because it has apparently been translated verbally from Spanish. Could you explain the reasoning behind reverting my entry? Thank you! -- Ciaraleone (talk) 22:17, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Ciara leone. I have restored your revision with this edit summary: Reverted to revision 587415974 by Ciaraleone (talk): Following comments on my Talk page.) Please leave a note when you read this here. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:28, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Nike has owned Converse starting on 9 July 2003[edit]

I recall that recently I only changed "It is owned by Nike since 2003" (which is a passive form) to "Nike bought Converse on 9 July 2003" (which is an active form). How is changing a passive form to an active form not constructive? Would you have preferred "Nike has owned Converse starting on 9 July 2003"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.151.174.67 (talk) 23:59, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I have made the following revision:
The company has been in existence since the early 20th century and a subsidiary of Nike, Inc. since 2003.[citation needed]
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Glad Tidings and all that ...[edit]

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 00:41, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, FWiW Bzuk! "Mine is in the post." — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 01:00, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Nadolig hapus eto!![edit]

Thank you, Martin! "Mine is in the post." — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 01:00, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Brensiach y bratiau![edit]

Season's greetings from PaleCloudedWhite!
Best wishes to you Gareth!
Thank you, PCW! Good Welsh heading. "Mine is in the post." — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 01:00, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Seasonal greetings[edit]




Merry Christmas and best wishes for a happy, healthy and productive 2014!
Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:26, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. I have just posted mine to you. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 02:30, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Haha brilliant!! Meerrry Christmas!! "I'm not gay" Cliff Richard in the bright pink shirt quite suitable LOL!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:59, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I did laugh! Nadolig Llawen! Deb (talk) 10:21, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

Happy Holidays
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, Hope are having a wonderful time! Hafspajen (talk) 12:33, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Ha, ha! Hpj, I thought mine would tickle you – I did not "find" it; I made it myself. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:51, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
How ingenious. Some day you have to tell me how to make your own. I mainly snatch what I like from others talk pages. Hafspajen (talk) 15:05, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Yours is charming. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:07, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
(ec) I liked yours a lot, also made mine myself: A Boy was Born, more on my talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Dear Gerda for this – and your links to the exceptionally outstanding music. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:13, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I did laugh ...[edit]

Season's greetings to a carnivorous bird
Best wishes for a merry Christmas and happy new year! (A blue Christmas can be quite a pretty, with a suitable jay-bird attitude.) Sminthopsis84 (talk) 15:09, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you Sminthopsis. Yours here is very polished. Excellent observation on PCW's Talk! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:00, 25 December 2013 (UTC)


Happy holidays[edit]

Happy Holidays!

Hope you are having a wonderful time!

Fixed Carl Larsson, thanks to you.

Hafspajen (talk) 15:44, 24 December 2013

I'm curious why you think the edits to Damselfly are vandalism. I moved the families to text to make them easier to read, and took out the unneeded caps. 66.61.92.158 (talk) 00:15, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Oh, but Gareth didn't call that vandalism, only problematical. I think that the explanation is that families need to be in that box, it is just a convention. Sometimes those can make the box very long, so I understand your point of wiew too. Hafspajen (talk) 00:29, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
  • (Ooops, maybe he said - on your talk page. Well, in that case you better ask him). Hafspajen (talk) 11:48, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
The edit summary on the article is correct; the edit summary (level 3) on the IP's Talk is standard (the third during December 2013) and is selected by a bot.
Since then, someone else has reverted another of their edits, resulting in a level 4 warning now. Thanks to Hafspajen for "caretaking" my page!
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:28, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Hafspajen (talk)

Post script (following your posting this photo): Ha, Ha, Ha! Great fun. Thanks for the laugh. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:28, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Happy to please you! A pretty crazy thing this, standing on that building, no? Not standing but hanging See Alfred Cheney Johnston
    Hafspajen (talk) 19:02, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Good old "Cheney" — I have added the [s & ]s and the "thumb"! — Buzzard — 12:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Ah, Dorothy Flood with The Mirror in 1920! Hafspajen (talk) 16:52, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Indeed! La bella figura! – as the Italians say.
Mind you, that (article) looks decidedly dodgy — a bit of your editing needed there, old boy! — Buzzard — 19:48, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Hmmm – where would one begin?
 Cheers! —Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred
22:54 30 December 2013

Blwyddyn Nwydd Dda[edit]

Blwyddyn Nwydd Dda Soo many consonants, so little time! 7&6=thirteen () 21:48, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

I just had to exchange your / with a ].
re: the "consonants" you should know that both w and y are vowels in Welsh.
Cheers! —Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred | — 22:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Of course, now I'm illiterate and unschooled in yet another language. Best regards and Happy New Year! 7&6=thirteen () 22:50, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
I wish that 2014 is good for us. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:25, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year[edit]

Blwyddyn Nwydd Dda !

Hope you are having a lovely time!!!! All the best for you, and a real naughty New Year. Here is an Angel for You to take care of your steps!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hafspajen (talk) 19:37, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
You know what they say - "An angel in the face is worth two in the woods". (I think...) Martinevans123 (talk) 20:44, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
That's a great angel. More angels please. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:55, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Another angel is on my talk (you need to open "blushing" where I hide my precious starts, mostly from editors gone). Happy new year! I had the last DYK word of the year, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:44, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

HNY[edit]

Have a good one, just don't win the Six Nations.... again.... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:06, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

You too, my Rambling friend!
Three in a row sounds good to my ears.
All the best for 2014 — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:53, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Jolly New Year!! Gareth. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:01, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Hpj's angel on my Talk is much more to my taste than those he put on yours. Great link, Martin! Is that your dog? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:15, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Yes, good old Bonzo. (.. but used to answer to the name Vivian, and dribble, at the sound of the bell, for some reason.)
And we get the yeomen at the end. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:30, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
"New beginnings"
I've been looking for a suitably (un)attired angel to add to your collection, Gareth, but I think Hpj found the only one. So instead here's a pic representing fresh new beginnings, for the new year. Best wishes for 2014! PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 00:03, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Beautiful. Just right; don't want to allow this page to get the wrong reputation. Thank you PCW.
Mind you, it already must be too late! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:36, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


Blwyddyn Newydd Dda/Happy New Year Gareth. Hope you had a good one. Best wishes for 2014. Daicaregos (talk) 15:05, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Gareth Griffith-Jones[edit]

Christine McVie[edit]

Hi fellow WP user. Thank you for your improvements to Christine McVie. Rel naming inside an article, WP gives this guidance under Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies#Subsequent use "After the initial mention of any name, the person should generally be referred to by surname only..." This convention presumably exists for several reasons, including so that the article sounds professional and not familiar. I started in on this renaming yesterday and noticed that you had reverted to the first name. It takes time to complete the name change on an article this long.. If you know how, would you please change back where I had changed to last name, and give me time to complete the job. If it's not possible to re-revert, would you please not revert when I start again, and instead give me the chance to finish correcting this problem. In any case, since I can find no authority for routine use of the first name in this situation, part correct is better than all wrong.

From what I've seen the two areas that are generally modified from this rule are when the subject's youth is covered and also where a family member with the same last name needs to be distinguished, in this case McVie's husband. Thanks for your trouble and for your fine efforts on the rest of this article. Regards, Paavo273 (talk) 21:30, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Good evening Paavo,
Thank you for your post and for your good work on this article. I was unaware that you were changing the name in the body of the article to her married surname. Both that and her given name were in evidence pretty well in equal number, and what with her divorce from bassist John McVie, it seemed to make sense to go with her given name. Happy New Year! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:45, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Weapons[edit]

I have a problem, you noticed that user you warned for causing vandalism on Inception, 90.196.0.132, he undid what I put on Machete, Machete Kills, Lethal Weapon, Lethal Weapon 2, Lethal Weapon 3 and Lethal Weapon 4, because I think they are comedy films, and undid them. 76.188.116.60 (talk) 11:34, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

  • You do — we do! My revert today on the IP:90.196.0.132 (talk) was a repeat of mine twice earlier on the IP:2.127.228.78 (talk)‎
    Either a sock or an IP address assigned dynamically.
    They are used because it avoids the administrative burden of assigning specific static addresses to each device on a network. It also allows many devices to share limited address space on a network if only some of them will be online at a particular time. In most current desktop operating systems, dynamic IP configuration is enabled by default so that a user does not need to manually enter any settings to connect to a network with a the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol. DHCP is not the only technology used to assign IP addresses dynamically.
    Difficult to block and then usually only for a short period.
    We shall just have to be both patient and diligent.
    Please leave a note when you read this. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, I believe Machete is a comedy film, due to Robert De Niro's character looking at a female nurse's butt, and him surviving Lindsay Lohan's character's gunshots, and running away and ending up killed, and Billy vomiting when he sees death and Luz's eye shot off, and Machete Kills has Carlos Estevez sleeping with 3 women in his bed, and a put on 3-D glasses scene when Danny Trejo was having sex with Amber Heard 76.188.116.60 (talk) 14:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC) What should I do? 76.188.116.60 (talk) 14:56, 3 January 2014 (UTC) I don't get what your messages are saying to me, it's very confusing, what are you trying to say? 76.188.116.60 (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

  • If you look at this Talk page you will see that another registered editor gave a warning after mine. Then I issued another warning after your comment on the page. All is quiet now. When, or if, their disruptive editing continues another warning will be posted. Should it still continue, I will demand action from an admin.
    Until then all we can do is to be both patient and diligent.
    I am now going to ask you to register yourself. I have posted on your Talk page and all you have to do is click on where it says, create an account.
    There are many advantages and you will benefit.
    What do you say? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:42, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
This is a known problem editor. See here and here for recent developments. Grandpallama (talk) 20:01, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! I appreciate your help. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:06, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Welsh?[edit]

Good morning!
Just interested to know why you—as an Australian—have {{User:Br2387/User independent Wales}} on your Userpage.
Are you Welsh?
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:40, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I have some Welsh ancestry. I support the freedom of Wales from English colonial rule. Paul Austin (talk) 12:44 am, Yesterday (UTC+0)
Thanks! So do I. Copied 'n' pasted your UBX.  Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred  — 00:49, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

GOCE 2013 Annual Report[edit]

User:28bytes[edit]

I have just finished wading through the two archives and as far as I can tell it all boils down to something referred to as "WO", whatever that is: is it Wikipedia:WikiOverload? I cannot find out, and some chinless wonder. The mind boggles.
I feel angry now. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:21, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
WO is Wikipediocracy. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:32, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh! Thank you Nikki Maria, although I fail to see why it relates to WO — and why it should present such a hoo-haa. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:11, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Last year my present was an enlightening article titled "'tis the season" (under the popcorn, and discussed here), - I looked for the author, no result, and found out now (to my delight) that it was 28bytes, - only others were less delighted, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 1 January 2014 (UTC
I responded to the "summary" in the Signpost with three lines. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Very well said, Gerda. Such a nonsense; still makes me feel exasperated. You said you would be travelling after New Year's Day; hope it was a successful trip. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:57, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Looking at the "votes": there was a clear consensus for trust, but mistrust was louder. The trip was good, including lunch outside here on the waterfront on New Year's Day, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Productive people leaving the project is my sad mantra since July 2011. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
I find – the older I become – sadly, the negative force invariably wins. Ascona looks beautiful. What a treat! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:14, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! I enjoyed the treat, with pumpkin soup (thinking of PumpkinSky, missed the third time). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, another one bites the dust. A shame Sorry, Gerda, I could not resist it — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:58, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
That was the line on WER. You could add the music here ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:09, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Ha! I had not seen that (thanks for the link!) Ah well,"Great minds think alike", as the saying goes … also thanks for the second link [24]. I have commented there.
Gerda, I wish you a lovely Sunday — Gareth Griffith-Jones  — 09:21, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, same - lovely Sunday - to you! Refreshed after church ;) - BWV 153 (Bach cantata for today, on my user) begins with "See, dear God, how my enemies, with whom I must constantly battle, are so deceitful and so powerful, that they easily oppress me!" (no comment). You may want to express your appeal also on the well-watched 28bytes talk page, not only on our obscure list which is not wanted (see its talk), threatened with deletion, and full of irony, for example that I should also list the one who started it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:30, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

The Lord bless you and keep you, ... and give you peace, - written yesterday in the context, + we lost another one, see my talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Dear Gerda,
Thank you.
Been over to yours to look but I shall need a better clue to find the identity — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:48, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Is this who you mean? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:55, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Look for beer, - it's mostly in German and came as thank you, - first ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:05, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
ps: now he was also blocked, and has a DYK on the Main page that I approved, supreme ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, as you can read above (22:55, 12 Jan) I had worked it out. Another great shame — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
On a brighter note: another editor is more resilient and has a pictured DYK on the Main page, and I started the painter's article as requested on my talk (miners and horses, romantic, look above) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Good article; fascinating facts. I shall look out for progress on the painter. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:37, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
(tell the author, he doesn't get much praise) - "... and give you peace" will be DYK tomorrow, I also nominated the one for whom we sang it last Sunday (see last 2 external links: top news pics), but I mean it for everybody including declared atheists ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
… and I appreciate it very much, dear Gerda … noticed your picking that up from my user page  Buzzard — 11:16, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
DYK yes, just not right now. I have a great man on the Main page (did you see the images mentioned above) and work on another (in the context), then will turn to the refs. We have three more days to nominate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Gerda, Hope springs p'haps? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I commented there ;) - also mentioned "hope" on top of my talk, beautiful line (not by me) - however, another one was not treated well, and actually more people than he alone --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
I see that. I have not "met" this editor before. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:01, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Many things simply wrong there, but I am determined to let go of the past. (Hold something against a candidate and people with whom he is friendly dating back to 2010 ... ) - I came to mention that "Spring" is also the title of one of the Four Last Songs mentioned on the Main page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Back to the header, did you know that his blue duck attacks the German Main page right now? - had to happen on the 28th ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Gerda What a concomitance!
Another: my birthday falls on a 28 in spring — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:56, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Very cool (was what 28bytes said, did you see?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for that numerical correction; you had me confused just then. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:19, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Traffic light signaling speed (limit)[edit]

Happy new Year 2014, Gareth Griffith-Jones, is something that kind in UK, or somewhere else installed? In the 1990ies Düsseldorf had some installed along Bundesstrasse 8, but uninstalled today. Göttingen has still some, signalling speeds 40, 50 and 60 km/h (equals 25, 30 and 40 mph) to make the vehicles arrive during green singal phase. --Hans Haase (talk) 20:14, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

And a Happy New Year to you, Hans!
I have never been aware of our having anything resembling a Geschwindigkeitssignal in Britain. the closest to that used to be in Slough, Berkshire during the 1960s & 1970s. This was merely a series of advisory notices along the A4 informing motorists that if they stuck to the 30mph limit, they would achieve a journey of green lights all the way through. Whenever I put it to the test, during the years before the completion of this route in this area, it never worked for me: I seemed to hit red lights throughout the stretch — and there were many.
It was abandoned, but I could not tell you when.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:04, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, I see it is exactly the same. The speed is a recommendation, only. At least, someone took pictures of it. Calculating the red phase time and the distance of the signal to the traffic light, it is not easy to guide motorists to green. Metering the queue would be an option, but the best effect is not to guide motorists at full speed into red. May be somebody deplaced the speed signal after finishing the timing. In the 1970ies, I guess there was no software parametering the timing or the interchange operated different from the expectations. --Hans Haase (talk) 00:33, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
It was good to catch up again. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:14, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

Don't know what you reverted on my Skoal (tobacco) edit, but thanks for keeping an eye on that. I thought adding the limited availability section was a good idea, since some of the tobaccos listed as discontinued are still found in certain stores. Not unlike the Copenhagen Mint flavor that is currently only found in Texas. Kitsunedawn (talk) 18:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Kitsunedawn Kitsunedawn
An IP had blanked your section titled, Cuts and Flavors. I merely replaced it as it was. Thank you for visiting — please leave a note here when you read this. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:13, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Got it. Will be doing an update there to add some new flavors being offered. Thanks for keeping an eye on it for me. Kitsunedawn (talk) 00:30, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
thanked — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:44, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Reverted Change[edit]

You reverted a change I made - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Visitor_attractions_in_Sheffield&diff=next&oldid=587408800 I just wondered why, stating the fact that it is now closed as it has been destroyed, is not suitable for that page.

Good morning DaddyLouLou,
Thank you for posting here.
I have removed the entry here
Please sign your posts with four tildes, like this: ( ~~~~ ) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:47, 9 January 2014 (UTC)I have removed the item from the list.

Thanks for yesterday[edit]

The Teddy Bear award
Yes, I just want to say that I appreciate what you did yesterday. Hafspajen (talk) 12:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks — I owed you.
    Great image — I have increased it five times to 25 pixs. — Gareth Griffith-Jones  — 07:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes. And What are you supposed to do with someone like this? Hafspajen (talk) 00:14, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Who? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:16, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Who doesn't have a pet monkey at home! Hafspajen (talk) 00:21, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Ha! Have looked at his (the schoolboy) User page? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:24, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes. But that is not the real problem, will sometimes, but the monkey... Hafspajen (talk) 00:31, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Try try this and look at the same time at the The Sons of the Desert dance, they work perfectly together, you will see! the music is in perfect timing with the Stan-dance! Hafspajen (talk) 00:47, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Back at you, Mr. Griffith-Jones[edit]

Your eliminating the material and the "citation needed" was constructive, and prompted my correction to Anatomy of a Murder. So Thank You. 7&6=thirteen () 22:18, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Glad to be of service, Stan. Thank you (again) for providing the reference.
Also, thank you for this information: [25]
I am not familiar with the phrase, "Back at you, " — not used over here. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:06, 11 January 2014 (UTC) and 09:00, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Miranda[edit]

The DVDs arrived Friday so I have been enjoying season one (in between several football - US and UK - games) immensely. Her talking directly to us adds to the level of fun. One question - do you think that there is a bookstore on the street where her business is? If so then it may well be the most dysfunctional business district in all of Britain :-) Cheers! MarnetteD | Talk 05:00, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Tamsin Grieg
Tamsin Grieg
So pleased that Miranda is to your expectations. I too delight in the 'talking to us' bits.
BB starred another of my favourite ladies who has featured in many great shows and plays.
To name just two characters which are at the top of my list:
Alice Chenery in BBC One's comedy drama Love Soup and Debbie Aldridge in BBC Radio 4's soap opera The Archers.
The excellent male lead opposite Tamsin in the first series of Love Soup is an American actor, Michael Landes. He appears in one episode as Danny in the Beeb's Miranda as the new chef and Miranda's date.
Michael, I wish you a lovely Sunday. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:15, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
By coincidence Tamsin is returning to my TV tonight as the third season of Episodes begins. I don't know if the first two season have aired in your neck of the woods. I think you will enjoy them if they ever do. It is a wonderful "Dept of Redundancy Dept" item that this series has caused WikiP to have this article List of Episodes episodes. Best regards. MarnetteD | Talk 17:06, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, it was a joint production with the BBC and the first series started showing here on BBC Two at the same time as Showtime in the U.S.but I cannot find any info yet on the BBC web about their showing series 3.
Look out for an excellent BBC One television film (shown here on Monday and Tuesday last week in two 60 minutes parts) starring David Morrissey, Sheridan Smith and Olivia Colman.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:40, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Still enjoying the show and I was pleasantly surprised to see Tom Conti cast as Miranda'a father!! MarnetteD | Talk 17:05, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Isn't he wonderful — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:50, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Absolutely!! So many stellar performances - The Norman Conquests and The Glittering Prizes are among my favorites. He is also excellent in Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence. Now, it is a very off-beat kind of film - even off-putting for some viewers - but his performance is worth seeing. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 19:53, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
We are (tonight) finishing a re-run of the third series on BBC One so we have almost synchronised viewing! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:17, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Sad News[edit]

I suspect you've already seen it so I will just say that we lost a wonderful talent with the passing of Roger Lloyd-Pack. MarnetteD | Talk 17:05, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

It is sad and he was not old. I also loved his character in this funny series — did your BBC America show it? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:17, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
They sure did. I bought the DVD set and really enjoyed the Red Nose Day special "BallykissDibley" which BBCA didn't air. MarnetteD | Talk 19:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

But[edit]

I read your edit summary before I made my edit, and your repeated statement of your reasoning when you reverted my edit. I was not taught that coordinating conjunctions shouldn't begin sentences, and certainly not in the 50s, years before I ever was alive; I just prefer longer sentences with clear structure, rather than many short sentences. It may be from reading classical literature or from having a complicated mind, or from loving beauty. It's my personal annoyance that sentences are becoming shorter and shorter nowadays, and I don't like the use of no comma simply for the sake of making a point in an article. As far as these English grammatical conventions are concerned, ones from today are as right as those from the 50s: that is to say, not actually right or wring, but simply conventions established by describing the majority's usage (or a privileged minority's usage). I won't revert your edit, though I would like to, because this is simply an issue of personal preference, yours against mine, and we'll get nowhere reverting each other back and forth, especially over such a small thing, but I'll register my continuing annoyance here. The length of my sentences, as well as their meaning, may serve as a statement against this convention of chopping words up into small soundbites. — Eru·tuon 04:39, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Good morning Erutuon,
Thank you for posting here. I appreciate your taking the trouble.
Like you, I enjoy both structuring and enjoying complex-compound sentences. English is a beautiful language.
I do wish to make the point that this project is an evolving encyclopaedia, and of course, whilst we do not write for the lowest common denominator, we must keep it at comfortable reading for the majority.
I have recently been re-reading the first four John le Carré novels for the first time since their publication in the 1960s, and was surprised at his frequent use of a large number of brief sentences at times, and yet, generally in his writing he used complex-compound sentences; both produced enjoyable reading.
Please leave a note when you read this. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:02, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
  • I love them too. Long sentences. But one have to think about that not every reader can cope with them. Hafspajen (talk) 20:35, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I have read your note, since your talk page came onto my watchlist when I posted on it. — Eru·tuon 07:52, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
A "thank you" to both of you for commenting. I enjoy discussions such as these.
Looking forward to brushing up against you, Erutuon again before too long! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:41, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Actually there is a tag: This page may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. The specific problem is: Dense prose. Just seen it somewhere. Hafspajen (talk) 20:47, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Userbox master[edit]

Wonder if you have any suggestions how to make the infobox broader, at schmidt hammer lassen architects, ABOUT AS WIDE as the first picture in the article? The article is full of great pictures and starts with a tiny infobox, that looks kind of miniature. I don't want to make it longer, but slightly wider. Even the picture in the infobox needs to be a little bit bigger. Is there some pages about how to cope with infoboxes. Hafspajen (talk) 13:12, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Hpj!
Width of UBXs is pre-determined to one width. Can make them deeper as I did for the two on Saturday.
I am self-taught; I simply muddle my way through to a result, if I am lucky.
But if there are pages anywhere [sarcasm] that you and I could understand, that would please me(!) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:01, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Well, you can always remove that thing with a scream of desgust. Hafspajen (talk) 19:58, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Uh, "that thing"? Please expand/explain. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:01, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Oh, that is this thing. While you were out poaching with your dog, someone put this in, and .. I removed it. A controversial dog pic - some people started breeding a kind of silver labrador, they call light dark Chocolate Labradors -or something like that, and put pics of them on Chocolate Labradors section, you can check the talk page at Labrador Retriever. Hafspajen (talk) 15:08, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Ha, ha! Thank you for the explanation! I do not like "loose ends"! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:12, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Questions[edit]

Love Actually reversion

Thank you for note letting me know why it was reverted. Am trying to make a contribution, but also trying to find my way. I appreciate it. (btw, on a completely unrelated matter, being mostly Welsh myself - grandparents from Abertillery and Six Bells - like the Welsh flag on your page) Onel5969 (talk) 01:19, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Good morning Onel5969,
How kind of you to write here. Thank you!
It is difficult settling in here and I am sure you will do well with your positive, tolerant attitude. I found that small tweaks and substitutions draw less reaction as that gives other interested editors an easier job of evaluating your current revision.
Your prose there is good and you should revisit that section in my opinion — I shall watch with interest.
Harry, Karen and Mia
Harry (Alan Rickman) is the managing director of a design agency; Mia (Heike Makatsch) is his new secretary. At work Mia constantly flirts with Harry, who at first is a bit befuddled by it. At the Christmas party for his company, Harry dances with Mia, which is wife, Karen (Emma Thompson), notices while she is speaking with Sarah (Laura Linney), who also works for Harry. Following the Christmas party, Mia's flirtation continues and she asks Harry what he is getting her for Christmas. He shrugs it off at first, but after thinking about it, he calls her and asks her what she needs. She replies she doesn't want something she needs, but something she wants. Later that day, while Christmas shopping with his wife, he picks out an expensive necklace from jewellery salesman Rufus (Rowan Atkinson), who elaborately wraps while Harry becomes increasingly nervous with the fear of detection. Rufus' delay in wrapping the gift causes Harry to leave without getting the necklace, as Karen shows up, but she notices that he is shopping in the jewellery department. Meanwhile, Harry's wife Karen (Emma Thompson) is busy dealing with their children, Daisy (Lulu Popplewell) and Bernard (William Wadham), who are appearing in the school Nativity play. Later on, Harry goes back to the store and purchases the necklace for Mia, leaving it in the pocket of his overcoat. Karen accidently discovers the necklace in Harry's coat pocket and assumes it is a gift for her, putting it back. On Christmas Eve, just before they leave for the pageant, they all get to open one gift. Karen chooses the gift which looks like the jewellery box she found in Harry's pocket. When she opens it to find a Joni Mitchell CD, she is confused, then incredibly hurt. After the Christmas pageant, she confronts Harry over the necklace and he admits his foolishness.


From your datestamp above, I am guessing that you live in the U.S. – glad you are proud of your Welsh ancestry.
 Sincerely, —Gareth Griffith-Jones| The Welsh Buzzard's Contributions| — 10:41, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Post script: Please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field — less likely to be reverted (!)
Thanks for the further advice. Look forward to seeing how you like other small edits I make.Onel5969 (talk) 14:46, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Gareth Griffith-Jones
the overall Welsh wiseman: an expert on technicalities, Q, spy and rescuer.
He is the right guy to ask this kind of things.
Hafspajen (talk) 00:19, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Gareth, don't mean to bother you, but I have several questions as I get more involved in editing on Wikipedia. First, is there a central location that folks can go to in order to find pages that need work? Second, is there a formal process in becoming a wikignome/wikifairy/wikielf? Third, can you be more than one of those? Third, on your talk page, you have a button which brings you to this new page to start a new topic... where do you get that, or other useful things like that. Four, is there something along the lines of a mentor program? I'd like to get more involved, but also want to do it correctly. A few things I've done folks have deleted (for copyright infringement, even though it was a picture I had taken. And in one instance I greatly expanded the plot of a film, only to have it deleted as being too lengthy, yet other film pages are even longer. Same thing with cast lists, etc.

Sorry to be a bother, but you've been very helpful in the past. And us Welshmen have to stick together. Onel5969 (talk) 23:27, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

  • He is the right guy to ask this kind of things. Hafspajen (talk) 00:19, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks.
Onel5969 (talk) 03:52, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
  • OK, I understand that. Sorry Onel, that I messed with your questions. Hafspajen (talk) 20:31, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Hpj Please make further posts in another section in order to avoid causing me possible apoplexy caused by (edit conflict)s. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:59, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Good morning Fellow Welshman!
As I shall be out for most of the day, this is only an acknowledgement and a promise that I intend replying fully to this post ASAP.
It pleases me that you are taking the trouble to "fit in"—so many don't seem to care one way or the other.
Have a good day! — Gareth Griffith-Jones The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred  — 07:55, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know you saw this. I will patiently await your wisdom. BTW... I figured out the answer to #3 above (by stealing the code off your talk page - finally realized I could do that). Same thing regarding the wikignome button and a few other items off your page. But in lieu of my original #3, I'd like to pose a new one: is there a "design" page with a collection of stuff like that? And if not, do you think I could start one?
Onel5969 (talk) 12:31, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

To begin.
I shall refer to your numbering above in sub-section format so that you may reply as appropriate as can I if required et cetera

  1. As you have demonstrated a good level of written English and copy-editing, I recommend your joining the Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors as I did … see my User page here. This project puts no demands on you but will provide unlimited articles requiring the skills that you possess. Also see this higher up here.
  2. No. None at all. If you believe that you conform in some of the ways to being a WikiSloth or a WikiGnome, then it is your decision. Yes, I have both of these!
  3. (a) After I posted my message to you this morning, I visited your pages and was delighted to see that you had taken the initiative. Exactly what I was intending telling you. 3.(b) I am not aware of any. For my own part, I have been learning something new day-by-day as I edit articles and link to other editors. Being naturally inquisitive, I tend to dig deep. I would suggest your own page is the best place to carry that idea out.
  4. Maybe what you and I have started is a sort of mentor programme; I am happy to fill that role if it suits you (?)
  5. I would like to discuss your final points in a more specific manner, so perhaps you will furnish me with examples (?)

Okay, over to you, Bil! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:14, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

  1. Thanks. Joined today. will check out the backlog project and do what I can there.
  2. Okay, I love being mythological and slow moving creatures. Will investigate and add the most appropriate ones.
  3. I'm finding that out. Will be experimenting on both my user and talk pages. Still having trouble with spacing and placing boxes.
  4. Hey... you want to be my wiki-mentor, I'm all in. I'll take any help/advice/commentary/snark you want to throw my way.
  5. Well, for instance, on the Love Actually cast list, I added a couple of small, but I felt plot-significant cast members, only to have them deleted. (here's the link so you can see: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Love_Actually&oldid=586539349&diff=prev); the cutting of an addition I made to a plot was actually the one you did on my addition to Love Actually (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Love_Actually&oldid=586030198&diff=prev). When you compare that with the plot to something like Splendor in the Grass (1961), I get confused about length and detail. Finally, I think I figured out the jpeg deletions on my own.

This is FUN! Should have started this ages ago. And those two links you gave me are fantastic. Thanks for all your help.

Onel5969 (talk) 01:15, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

continued[edit]

Another thing. On your advice I started to try to go the backlog on the Copy Edit project. I chose one of the oldest articles — from November 2012 — [26]. If you have time, I'd appreciate your comments on what I did. Will plow forward until someone tells me I'm really screwing up.

Onel5969 (talk) 15:15, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Well done you! Speaking as someone with no knowledge of the subject (as you know, Rugby Union is my game) your c/e looks great. As you say, wait for a reaction!
See what I've done with your linking? Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:30, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. 2 down, working on my 3rd. Onel5969 (talk) 14:16, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Excellent. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:20, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

User talk:Onel5969[edit]

The problem was the the character after "One" in this user name is lower-case L, not figure 1. I have corrected the link in the talk page, and zapped the other page that got created. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 18:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Of course that now makes sense: Only one "l" in "Bil"
Many thanks John for getting me out of trouble and for completing my attempt to correct Bil's link that he had copy 'n' pasted from this page. Much better that he gets his mail delivered there rather than here.
All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:31, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
If we're done going over my idiotic mistake... ;) ... thank you all for your help.
Onel5969 (talk) 21:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
You cannot take any responsibility for that. The teacher takes it full on — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:09, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Own photographs[edit]

Re- "... also want to do it correctly. A few things I've done folks have deleted (for copyright infringement) even though it was a picture I had taken."

I have posted on your userpage. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:37, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! So simple! Onel5969 (talk) 13:35, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Just two points:
  1. No need to ever ping me (or any user for that matter) when posting on their own Talk page.
  2. If replying on your Talk page there is a {{tb}} template which you can post on the other person's Talk to alert them, though I will never require you to {{tb}} me. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:57, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Again, thanks. I was "talking" to Erik, and saw that he pinged me (of course, on his talk page), and didn't realize there was a difference. Onel5969 (talk) 14:22, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
You are learning fast. Interesting what you wrote there. Erik is a highly respected editor who always seems (to me) to get it spot-on. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:32, 23 January 2014 (UTC)


Copy-editing[edit]

Good evening Excirial,
That was very kind of you. I appreciate your involvement, although most surprised to find you visiting my userpage. I trust all is well with you and yours. Still wondering what caused you to notice.
Kind wishes, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:33, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Gareth,
All is well with me, and i definitely hope the same same applies to you. I was busy patrolling for vandalism using Huggle 3's beta version which displayed a sizable text removal from a user page. Naturally it was an innocent edit, but then i noticed a familiar username and some leftover PHP code so i figured i'd stop by. The rest is my usual "I see some section bunching, a few clears will solve that" followed by "I see some edit count data that would likely look better in a table, lets just create a table while i am adding those clears". Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 22:08, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Now I just have to worry that I can add to your table at the end of January without messing it up!
Thanks for your good wishes. You will remain as the person that gave me the encouragement to stick at this lark when I could have so easily walked away — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


Leigh Halfpenny[edit]

What a star! — Buzzard — 13:36, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Well deserved!! Are the matches covered on the radio? If they don't show up on TV I might be able to follow then online. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 21:56, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes all will be on BBC's 5 live sports extra [27] which airs concurrently with its 'parent', BBC Radio 5 Live. I used that to listen to the Lions last summer. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:15, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

Did you know that every year, the Norwegians donate a giant Christmas tree for the Brittish to be raised in Trafalgar Square as a gesture of goodwill in return for help during the Second World War? [1] Hafspajen (talk) 16:32, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I have known that fact since the first time it happened which was when my mother told me about it and, what is more, she and I went by express train on the Great Western Railway (GWR) from Cardiff to Paddington to view your nation's lovely gift.
A map showing Wales and south west England. The words Great Restern Railway" are at top left, the sea is pale blue and railway lines red, many of which seem to radiate from London on the right
Map of the system circa 1930
Since 1947, Oslo has sent a 65–80-foot (20–25 m) high, 50 to 100-year-old spruce, as an expression of gratitude toward Britain for its support of Norway during World War II.
Good to be reminded of that first visit to London. Thank you.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:48, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
  • It is kind of nice. Scandinavians always had a special bond to Britain, I think. Hafspajen (talk) 18:07, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
I thought you were Swedish, Hpj? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 18:33, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Well, my people are from Norway, actually... But I live in Sweden.Hafspajen (talk) 19:10, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Everyone's a mixture. My surname has Old Norse origins, and some of my family are from Ulster (oh no, not the Irish question again!) PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 19:18, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
  • The "PaleCloudedWhite" is Old Norse? Hafspajen (talk) 19:31, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Not my username, my surname. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 19:38, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Yeah, just teasing you... Hafspajen (talk) 19:44, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Ooh, Mandy, you are awful - you remind me of one of my distant relations... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:10, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Now that "we have company", I had better tidy up in here and hang that old picture on the other wall — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:38, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Hafspajen (talk) 01:02, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
A nice red dog with white socks
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:44, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, that looks much better! I hope you don't mind if I just watch a bit of old TV while waiting for my cup of tea... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:52, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
I am still chuckling — a genius of comedy that does not date.
Yes, surprising that M123 hasn't surfaced yet(?) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:03, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Martinevans123 is wrestling with BracketBot (or kissing???) ...or was editing Marmite and got hungry .. yuck. Hafspajen (talk) 21:07, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Do you really think that at Shiba inu that trivia should go into the article? People keep fighting on it at the talk page, in spite of the fact that it has his own article, AND it is added to see also. Now somebody added now Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections - isn't something valid? Hafspajen (talk) 04:24, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Is [28] this okay? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:17, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Bravery award

Morning Gareth, if there was a barnstar for bravery I would be adding it to your talk page right now for this courageous edit! I think the correct way to describe it is "such wow". SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

@SP — Fearless, old hawk  — Buzzard — 11:44, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
A small gathering listens to Gareth Griffith-Jones while he plays and sings, while working. By Rudolf Alfred Höger - Hafspajen (talk) 17:44, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Any thing else you want old Welsh hawk to do?  — Buzzard — 14:31, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Thank you very much. Well, I will come up with a prophetiae sibyllarum - it will probably not stop ... Hafspajen (talk) 14:39, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Methinks thou art in converse too often with GerdaMusica reservata indeed! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:50, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Define "too often"? Reading my mind, see? Doesn't happen too often. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
I am sure that it is not "too often" — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:02, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
unreserved music, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
  • And if, so, eh? Maybe she likes it...Hafspajen (talk) 16:15, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Of course! I love the Rudolf Alfred Höger Fröhliche Sangesrunde mit einer Donaulandschaft. What is a Donaulandschaft?— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Would guess on landscape of Donau? And if we behave really nicelly, Gerda might make a new article on Rudolf Alfred Höger -and you will be in it. Also there is plenty of stuff on her talk page to make that article, so you can also work on it. Hafspajen (talk) 20:35, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Well done you two! Quickly turned blue — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:03, 29 January 2014 (UTC) Ah! Had not realised that Donau means Danube. I think it must be time to fetch the trusty drawing equipment ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:58, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Buzzard, pipe-puffing hero of famous talk pages on Wikipedia , confers with his esteemed colleague, Hafspajen, in their private London club

"My dear fellow! How cosy and nice. Now the only thing we need is a Chesterfield sofa!" Hafspajen (talk) 13:59, 28 January 2014 (UTC) ...

"... but with our limited funds, how may we procure such luxury?"
To which GGJ smiles, saying, "Elementary, my dear Hafspajen! We both know of a a lovely lady in Scotland who owes us a favour. I happened to note that she has one in her parlour. I believe we could persuade her to part with it." — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:33, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh dearest gentlemen, a [settee]? Please don't refer to a Chesterfield in such an uncouth manner - it may be termed a sofa but please never ever a settee! I have been scouring my archives to find what you seek - sadly without any success - but I have become distracted from my task by the despicable audacity of those IPs who are causing us consternation and fretful times at Shiba Inu. Dare I add "such wow" without descending down to the same level? SagaciousPhil - Chat 21:45, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Indeed, at the time an eyebrow was raised to extreme degree; nevertheless your company is forever appreciated dear lady. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:01, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Good morning, dearest! I'm afraid one is being driven to distraction on this wet and miserable morn as it appears another editor is running a script, the parameters of which are matching several articles one has worked on, causing one's email to continually intrude and disturb the ability of full concentration ... Thank goodness, they seem to have worked through them all now, so I can go back to trying to research some illusive information I'm after for Forglen! SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:34, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Gareth for the userbox!! I had a period when I always used to have Bombay Sapphire at home. Nowadays I think I am not as good as I was before at it. Maybe because of the yoga. You can't stand on your head if you drink, you know.
    Hafspajen has had a pint of beer — is it enough to mess this up?!
    Hafspajen (talk) 21:45, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Bombay Sapphire is a terrific gin; well worth the extra cost in my opinion. Are you into Yoga or are you just picking up on this earlier today? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:54, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Oh, I am into yoga. And picking up on it. No, I am telling you it is impossible to make yoga and drink in the same time. But I might take a day off sometimes - once a month. Hafspajen (talk) 23:09, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
So you don't drink nowadays. How long have you been into Yoga? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
  • No I don't drink nowadays. Since I was 17, but sometimes took a break time to time. Hafspajen (talk) 23:20, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
You have amazed me. I should remove the userbox in that case. I had imagined you enjoyed a good drink. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:26, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
  • You just add "12 times a year"! I am not an under the principle of abstaining from alcohol. Hafspajen (talk) 23:28, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
... and all that chit chat with SP and me about beer ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:33, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Well, one has to be polite. And I do like beer, I just don't drink that too often. Hafspajen (talk) 23:38, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
... with me thinking you Scandinavians drank even more than we Welsh. And we do drink. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:41, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
  • 'I like dark beer, red vine, Jägermeister, and silly thing like this - English [29], What now, I like them, but I don't drink them often. New year, birthdays, special occasions. Hafspajen (talk) 23:38, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
... but should I remove my gin userbox? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Please add 12 times a year. Hafspajen (talk) 23:59, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 Done — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:05, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks!!! (But now probably the folks will ask what 12 occasions.. well - never mind, I can ansver 17. mai.)Hafspajen (talk) 00:08, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
So, practising Yoga since you were seventeen. I am very impressed. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:12, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Yoga, No, Yogo, Yogo sapphire, - two years ago I passed the first Precious to the writer, - now a dear friend translated to Swedish!!! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:28, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
... the world's only guaranteed "untreated" sapphire ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:34, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
(mercy with a small screen) - I did German, do you know another language? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Presumably the Welsh - I would guess. Hafspajen (talk) 01:55, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Have you seen where this link you reverted was directed?[30] It was to the Doge of Venice, with subspecies. Hafspajen (talk) 02:17, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Good morning, @Gerda Arendt and Hafspajen:
French.
Yes, I had realised at the time that it would link to the main article. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Hpj A new editor, such as this one, who refuses to follow our standards & guidelines should now be reported and given a week's block.
Report him/her! Now, before you go mad! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:38, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Damn, he is back again, now he reverted SP. Why, + well wonder if I am going to blocked. Since I was edit warring - maybe - if you can call that - removing crapy pictures 5 times ... now SP is going to be blocked too, soon.Hafspajen (talk) 16:12, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Then I would recommend that both you and SP walk away from the problem. It is not worth the Närke, Sweden! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:00, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Weird, these pings doesn't work any more. Saw your edit summary- saying Ping, but recived no ping, weird. We got the attention of an administrator. Hafspajen (talk) 17:33, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
... then we shall revert to "watching" our Watchlists as we used to ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:41, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

I think that pings only work if your signature is also included - i.e. I did get a ping as I was mentioned in the original signed post but Hafs didn't because it was amended afterwards? I know pings don't work on templates either as editors are forever thinking if they mention someone on a DYK nomination they don't need to notify them any more but they do! Let's hope the problems are now dealt with on the Spaniel pages. I don't know how reliable the watch list is at times either! SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

You are correct; active signature is required.
Amazed at your outdent template and your having to count to

The 32 Men
(Danish: Stadens 32 mænd) were the leading merchants of Copenhagen, who had the right to demand an audience before the king]]thirtytwo Much better than the one I have always employed. Thank you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — PS Got that Hpj? 18:08, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

I hope you find it useful - and yes, counting to 32 was a real nightmare but I really can't stand when there are only a couple of words per line in a thread! I still can't fathom this threading thing properly anyway, especially when asterisks are used or a colon with a period. SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:10, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Good Saturday SP, I agree. For my part, I only use the colon, unless I am making a specific point to an IP occasionally.
Dear old Hpj generally starts off with his asterisks but then usually forgets, so put them in for him just for uniformity(!) — is that daft? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:30, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Is your home on the map, Hpj? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:40, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Bearbarnstar for support
Hafspajen 18:42, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
A fine beast
but I prefer him without that silly bib — Buzzard — 19:09, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
  • As you wish, my little fish! Eternal Tears of Sorrow - he or she got blocked. Hafspajen (talk) 19:11, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Good, indef. too; that is fine – but what about the IP?
Are you further north than this map is showing? — Buzzard — 22:00, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

... to continue adding them.
So you are further south than Copenhagen. On the coast facing Denmark. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:19, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

More Miranda[edit]

Hello again G. I finished the first season of Call the Midwife. Very well written and acted. Tears of joy or sadness at the end of each episode. It was great to see Cheryl Campbell as Chummy's mum. So Ms Hart has had Patricia Hodge as her mom in one series, CC in this one, now if she can just get Felicity Kendall in her next series she will have hit the trifecta of woman that I fell for while I was in college. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 18:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

So glad you enjoyed it, Michael. I was sure you would and the present season which started a couple of weeks ago after the Christmas episode is proving to be just as entertaining. Yes, I think CC is marvellous too. Pity her WP article does not have a photograph. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:23, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

A fun little house - or two[edit]

Topiary
Stone House, Bush House, Glass House

Wonder if the owner goes into the wrong house sometimes? Hafspajen (talk) 22:08, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Hpj, but I do not think that their address is "Bush House".
Correcting your legend to: Topiary: Stone House, Bush House, Glass House ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:01, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
I mean, he might come home some day from a heavy party - a day when he drinks alcohol - (one of those days) and goes in the wrong house sometimes. Hafspajen (talk) 12:32, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh, yes, I got that the first time round. He has to go into the "Bush (topiary) House" to reach the brick and flint house— [the "Stone House"]—and may sleep within the shelter of the terrifically tall topiary.
Good fun, indeed! Thanks! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:47, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Uh? I don't get it— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:04, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
  • A weird site. Pople are in Korea taken pictures of when drunk. Later they are put on this bloogspot. Weird, no? Hafspajen (talk) 00:11, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Certainly is. Mind you, there is not much to recommend about the Koreans, North or South.— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:20, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Ugh! I understand that they eat dogs — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:36, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Ugh!. No, that was no good. Oh, well, we can try liking them for their... Moonies?Hafspajen (talk) 13:14, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

i didnt edit it. I think its a shared IP.[edit]

Sorry but i wasnt the one who edited the article on Muhammad Rafi. its a shared IP because its dynamic and someone else from my ISP or city must have done it. So please consider before reporting or getting my IP banned if any violations happen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.48.58.240 (talk) 13:11, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Do not concern yourself. It happened on 21:02, July 30, 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+19)‎ . . List of songs recorded by Mohammed Rafi (M) ‎ (M)
Why not register? Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:32, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

The English Patient (film)[edit]

I've got some problems on the page for The English Patient (film). Possible sock puppets, non-native speakers, they can't recognize a complete sentence, they refuse to discuss, don't know the meaning of 'lede', etc. Maybe you'd like to make a contribution. --Ring Cinema (talk) 04:51, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Ring Cinema Please see this & this & this — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:00, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
... I see what you are up against ... this is their response to my edit on their page:
Well, when you have Ring Cinemawants to use your page to spread lies then you sort of have to expect all the info to flow.
Unbelievable! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:14, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Teach me copy-editing request[edit]

Gareth I hate going to the WP:GOCE and wait for two months to nominate my article for a GA + I want to help others. But before I do that I need learn the trade myself, so will you be willing to be my sensei? Soham 12:57, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Gosh! What a request. Yes, Soham, I can assist you and guide you, but you must be prepared for some knock-backs and take them on the chin. I may not always write what you like. Equally, I will praise you when you deserve encouragement.
To kick off with, I have copy-edited your section heading here.
One other thing. Do you know that your Talk page is still advertising that you are away on a short holiday?
I look forward to hearing about your article. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:54, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Well Gareth you would be pleased to know that I like chin-music as well as you do.

Oh! I put up that notice with intent but that did'n't go down well with my WikiCup plans. Lets start when you're ready. Soham 16:14, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Lets do it on a sub-page of yours. Soham 16:18, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Ha, ha! Chin music is a slang term with several different meanings.
Yes, I think that your suggestion is sound. It is done: User:Gareth Griffith-Jones/Soham copy-editing tuition. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:47, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
... as for chin music I know only one. Soham 16:55, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Thwart Kip Death Bomb[edit]

Thank you for the thwart. That was suggested long ago and reverted for something of the previous immediate language.SharpQuillPen (talk) 22:01, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

inveigles?[edit]

Thanks, Gareth, but, with respect, isn't it obvious that word choice is not the issue? 'Lures' says it completely and accurately without the inaccurate connotation of flattery. Anyway, I filed an edit warring complaing on SharpQuillPen. I hope it helps. And thanks for pitching in on a difficult plot summary. --Ring Cinema (talk) 23:51, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Your opinion?[edit]

Hello Gareth. You may have noticed a dispute at The English Patient (film), since you've edited there. There is now an edit warring complaint: WP:AN3#User:SharpQuillPen reported by User:Ring Cinema (Result: ). The person named in this complaint created their account on 27 January. Did it occur to you that three of the participants in the dispute might all be the same editor? Three accounts were all created in late January and this article is their main interest. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:08, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Good evening Ed Johnston, Thank you for posting here.
Yes, I had noticed the similarity of editing style/talk page contributing/edit summary completing that stood out with clarity. A clear case of sock-puppetry in my opinion. The vitriol poured on Ring Cinema during this campaign of disruptive activity is appalling. Bullying such as that is totally out of order.
Were you aware of this attack to this Talk page? Adding 89,611 bytes.
Sincerely,— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I hope I'm not butting in, Ed, but I think there might be a fourth affiliated editor. If you look at my talk page I have a collection of writing samples from the four of them that raise my suspicions. None of them use colon indent. Also, JvB suggested that there was a sockpuppet involved when he filed for the dispute resolution for the page. He had put two of them together. --Ring Cinema (talk) 23:43, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I agree there may be four accounts at The English Patient (film) that are all the same person. If any one of them starts up again, I'll consider a block or perhaps filing an SPI. EdJohnston (talk) 20:30, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:01, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Recent edit to Ronnie Mitchell[edit]

Hello, and thank you for your recent contribution. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit because ou introduced a spelling mistake.Thank you! Greenmaven (talk) 00:21, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

I have to say that I am disappointed that Jack has templated me when we have on several occasions conversed on each other's Talk pages.
Furthermore, when his revert of my editing was promptly reversed by Tentinator, Greenmaven reverted that revision. Thank you T for your prompt action.
To add insult to injury, the so-called "spelling mistake" (in fact a "typo" – vists/visits) existed during these events and is in a paragraph above the relevant editing [33]
Now I must take this opportunity to thank PCW, Hpj and S for coming here in the early hours and defending this incursion. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:46, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
(And if you haven't spotted the delicious irony GG-J, re-read Jack's message above very carefully. One has to be so careful when reverting over spelling errors...) PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 10:01, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh, yes, I spotted "ou" the first time.— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:03, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Gareth, you can use this *template* {{Uw-dttr}}. Soham 18:07, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh, that is great! Thank you Soham! Cheers! Gareth.

Ouch! You've used a template to send a message to an experienced editor. Please review Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars or maybe listen to a little advice. Doesn't this feel cold, impersonal, and canned? It's meant in good humour. Best wishes. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:29, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

 — Buzzard — 10:15, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

New article[edit]

Hey Gareth - have you seen this new article? It's been nominated at DYK. I'm just about to sign off for the evening but I thought it might interest you! SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:38, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that SP. It is new to me and does interest me. It needs a lot of work to get it into shape. Your big match—good luck!— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:11, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Hey Gareth - have you seen this new article? I thought it might interest you! Hafspajen (talk) 08:16, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Fascinating history. Thanks Hpj. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:27, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Sortable tables by last name[edit]

I attempted to find what is the coding for a searchable table that goes by the last name and could not find it in a search. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.88.72 (talk) 05:57, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

(watching) I go by examples, see List of 20th-century classical composers by birth date, you have to use a definition for the sort, for example {{hs|Dancla, Charles}} [[Charles Dancla]], --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:12, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Good morning, Gerda! Thank you so much. As ever, Gareth. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:17, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Post script
Gerda What is the significance of the hs? What do the two letters stand for?— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:32, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
To look up any template, search {{tl|templatename}}, in this case {{hs}}, "hidden sort key" (what else?), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Gerda.
So is there a "directory of definitions"/template names, rather like the List of acronyms?— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:37, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
I don't know. If I see something strange in a template (parameters not showing in an infobox, for example), I look up the name of that specific template and can find it (see above), check and edit it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:18, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps I should name you "my Miss Marple"! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:30, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
I am not your miss whatevername ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Jane Marple, usually referred to as Miss Marple, is a fictional character appearing in 12 of Agatha Christie's crime novels and in 20 short stories. Miss Marple is an elderly spinster who lives in the village of St. Mary Mead and acts as an amateur detective. Alongside Hercule Poirot, she is one of the most loved and famous of Christie's characters and has been portrayed numerous times on screen. Her first appearance was in a short story published in The Sketch magazine in 1926, "The Tuesday Night Club",[1] which later became the first chapter of The Thirteen Problems (1932). Her first appearance in a full-length novel was in The Murder at the Vicarage in 1930.
Thought that I should explain who she is— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:00, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
I know who she is - and who I am: nobody's "miss" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
She is my favourite female character in fictional literature. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
A great position! - I am dealing with a publisher of fiction, improvements/sourcing welcome, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:30, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
While you are on the topic of tables - can you work out what is happening in these two edits, please? Working Group (dogs) and Terrier Group - I can't work out whether the edits need to be undone ... [*Please can you help?] SagaciousPhil - Chat 16:41, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Just got in SP. I have reverted both. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:41, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, Gareth, much appreciated. I've now also reverted on Toy Group. It's a bit bizarre ... SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:09, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
PS: Sorry but I think the Miss Marple image might have to be removed from here as it's coming up as "Non free" - the license is just for use in the the two articles. SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:14, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 Done Thank you {{|Sagaciousphil|SP}} — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Great movie (IMHO)[edit]

All Is Lost 7&6=thirteen () 20:46, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Stan,
"... is a 2013 American survival film written and directed by J. C. Chandor. The film stars Robert Redford as a man lost at sea. Redford is the only cast member, and the film has almost no dialogue. All Is Lost is Chandor's second feature film, following his 2011 debut Margin Call ..."
Sounds interesting—I must add it to my list. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:28, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Strange movie. Leaves a lot unsaid. Really don't know who he is, how he got there or why. Almost no dialogue. Except for the environmental sounds, this is almost a silent film and Redford is a Mime artist. There is no narrator. To me, even the end (spoiler alert) is ambiguous. NDE or rescue? You decide. 7&6=thirteen () 13:33, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I have already read that it cuts to white. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:37, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
And it wouldn't just be a NDE, but the Hand of God (think Sistine Chapel). 7&6=thirteen () 13:41, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
The Last Judgment by Michelangelo. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:44, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Did you know that ...[edit]

County of Carmarthenshire in Wales

Did you know that my paternal grandfather was born and raised here ? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:26, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

  • Indeed? Just noticed no commons. Hafspajen (talk) 00:29, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
See my User page! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:32, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
and this list — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:37, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Indeed. Hope you are not going to kick my ass for that gallery... Hafspajen (talk) 00:42, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Of course not. Great improvement. Thank you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:37, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

... horse?[edit]

Felinfach translates as "small mill" — certainly a water mill — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:54, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

  • Cerflun hardd ger mynedfa Felinfach. Where is this place Felinfach and who made this horse, do you know? Hafspajen (talk) 01:22, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Hpj, this is an entrance to a private road—which is situated on the B4301 road—to a house called Felinfach. [34]
The B4301 is a country lane that runs between the A484 at Bronwydd, and the A485 at Pontarsais, both in the county of Carmarthenshire.
I cannot find information about the sculpture. Sorry. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:44, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

It looks like it's at the entrance/driveway to racing stables here. At a guess I think it maybe be of the horse she had "Maidstone Monument"? SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:37, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Llansteffan
A view from Ferryside, groyne and beacon

Clever girl! Well done SP!
Good sleuthing ...

Alison Thorpe Racing - Felinfach Stables
Bronwydd Arms, Carmarthen, Dyfed SA33 6BE
01267 253030

I now read that it is less than ten miles away from Llansteffan. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:32, 14 February 2014 (UTC

  • Very interesting stuff, maybe a new article? Do you know the name of the horse? Hafspajen (talk) 20:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

SP thinks she knows ... see her post above here! ... and this link! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:55, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) No, not really - I was just doing some guesswork as the statue looks sort of like that horse and it obviously did a lot of winning! What I don't know I make up!!!! SagaciousPhil - Chat 21:05, 14 February 2014 (UTC)


If you celebrate it, here you go[edit]

..................................................................................................................................................................... Hafspajen (talk) 04:18, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Sorry, Hpj, I never have ... but I like the painting. Did you construct this greeting? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:11, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, not me.. the bot. Wikilove..make your own, I discovered... Hafspajen (talk) 15:52, 14 February 2014 (UTC)


Peer review[edit]

Gareth... long time, no *talk*... Anyway, I've submitted my first article for peer review, in the hopes of raising it to FA status. Phoenix, Arizona. Would love to have your comments on it, as well as anybody else whose opinion you respect Onel5969 (talk) 23:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Good evening, Bil,
Great to hear from you!
Responding briefly before going to bed.
I have just returned from my first (fairly brief) visit to Phoenix and I am really impressed. As it is after midnight here, I cannot give it justice tonight, but I will certainly be glad to return. What made you choose it—have you spent time there? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi. Yes, I live in Scottsdale, right next door to Phoenix. I looked at the articles which needed work, and saw it on the list, so I figured, why the hell not? Look forward to your input. Onel5969 (talk) 04:22, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/List of The Musketeers episodes[edit]

This nomination has issues. Are you interested to help out? Hafspajen (talk) 14:20, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I watched the first two episodes with growing concern. Came to the conclusion that I was wasting my time, so abandoned the notion of watching the remainder of the series. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:23, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, you are probably right. Hafspajen (talk) 19:41, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Good morning Hpj,
I think so.
I have just made two revisions there... The Musketeers is a BBC television historical action drama that is based on the characters of Alexandre Dumas's novel The Three Musketeers.
What do you think about the nomination? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:35, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, I am sorry I mentioned it too you. Anyway, there is no nom. any more. Hafspajen (talk) 18:32, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
No need to feel sorry, good friend—no harm done! After all, we are brothers— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:55, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Why don't you like that move? Hafspajen (talk) 20:49, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Which move? Newport?
Do you like the song? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:52, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
The clue is here Read: Gareth Griffith-Jones, a Welshman, was born on 28 April 1942 in Cardiff and spent his early years on his grandfather's dairy farm, Pant-rhiw-goch Farm, Tyla Lane, Castleton, Monmouthshire, midway between the cities of Cardiff and Newport.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:59, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Song - made me a bir gloomy an sad, also good sound. Written in the stars? I prefer to revolt against stars. I think one can change things. Yes, Newport move. Hafspajen (talk) 21:06, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
How about this then? Stick with it ; there is a dramatic shift at 4 mins 44 secs — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:43, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Nice. I like it. Hafspajen (talk) 00:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

3RR noticeboard message[edit]

I thought you've kept a close eye on how many reverts you made over a 24-hour period. Over that time period I've discovered 4 reverts so far. I've therefore decided to report this matter to AN3 (which can be seen here). Minima © (talk) 22:35, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

  • Please review the warning I left you at WP:AN3.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:18, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you Mini Mac & Bbb for you interest. My only comment on the matter is that we cannot ask our readers to consider a question; our job is to give facts that can be verified. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I have posted the following on the article's Talk

My point is based on the fact that we cannot ask our readers to consider a question; our job is to give facts that can be verified.
If a question mark is added to copy it is asking a question which the reader has to consider. This is not in accordance with an encyclopaedia.
The issue on this article revolves around the termination of two marriages.
If divorce has not been mentioned, who are you to assume the annulment?
Yes, it would have been illegal, but she would not be the first or last person to make a false declaration to the registrar. We cannot assume anything here. We just state what is in the series.
I am told that question marks have been added because, without them, it gives the impression that Roxy is bigamously married to Alfie and Sean. To that I replied, "And who are you to state that she is NOT?"
I received a reply, "The question marks indicate that we do not know whether the marriage was dissolved or not. You are assuming it never was, your word is not law."
To which I replied, "I am not "assuming"" anything. The fact is we have no evidence, therefore we cannot state anything. As I said earlier, she may have made false declarations to the registrar."
We cannot assume to know an end date. We cannot suggest an end to a marriage by using question marks. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:59, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Rugby League[edit]

"Needs the qualification, because Rugby League is not referred to as rugby"

I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that "rugby" isn't ambiguous because it doesn't mean Rugby League? If so then it seems you are supporting my edit. And apart from this "often referred to simply" is clumsy and redundant. Bhny (talk) 12:40, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, B, for posting here.
I can see what you are getting at and I should have spent longer on my edit summary to make my reason clearer.
What I mean is League is the shortened version of Rugby League, not "rugby", but Rugby Union is more often than not abbreviated to rugby.
If you disagree with that, please feel free to revert me!
I agree with you about the clumsy "... often referred to simply as ..." and I have wondered before about rewriting it.
Which team do you support? Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:41, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I agree with what you are saying but that seems to support my edit- simply rugby. (I grew up following the local league team. Ruby union, or simply rugby, is a strange game to me.) Bhny (talk) 15:49, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Okay, I shall undo my reverting of your editing now. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:51, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 Done — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:53, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Well[edit]

Hafspajen (talk) 17:08, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

What now? Is everybody on you nowadays? Hafspajen (talk) 12:54, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

No need to worry about me—I have broad shoulders — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:01, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
File:DSC 0303 (5749116206).jpg? Hafspajen (talk) 15:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I had not realised that snap of me when at agricultural college was in the public domain. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:28, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh yes, we have you in our records!!Hafspajen (talk) 16:37, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
"My past catching up with me" — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:41, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
This lovely Brazilian actress is not a "stub" in my view! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:45, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
You like brunettes? Hafspajen (talk) 19:47, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, this gentleman prefers brunettes— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:54, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

That horrible !barnstar![edit]

I really didn't felt like logging in today. This so called wikilove my userpage was semivanalized by - no wait a minute I hateyou.! stuff, it is makes one feel bad. And I am further hanged out on his userpage. [35]I am the certain person, who is hanged out there: I pity you. ... Feel free to use my talk page for the massive flame war that ensues... what happened with WP:Civility nowadays? Hafspajen (talk) 17:28, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I noticed that your User page was vandalised with that horrible !barnstar! and that SP had removed it. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:45, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict)[/*me - rudely butts in] But when you leave the dreadful thing there, it does mean everyone can see the horrible childish nastiness, can't they? Try not to go over and look at it - do you know there is a user talk page from a long time ago where an editor said horrible things about me, I just walked away from it and they have never edited again since? Hafs, I know it's hard but it is better to take the moral high ground at the moment - they will eventually get their comeuppance! Morning, Gareth! SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:06, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Clarification: I mean leave the nastiness on their user page for all to see. SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:16, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
What, you mean that I should put that back on my userpage, or that I should put it on his? Hafspajen (talk) 12:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
No, I mean just ignore the silly things he has on his user page! I tried to make you more cake last night but this happened! SagaciousPhil - Chat 12:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Even more clarification: I have just realised that where I have said above: "I tried to make you more cake last night but this happened." could be interpreted wrongly! I was trying to cheer Hafs up with one of the funny Swedish Chef videos but have just realised the Chef smashing the cake at the end might imply I was going to smash all the cakes. I didn't mean it like that and apologise if it looked that way ... I would make you cakes every day (except I'm not a good cook - one has staff for that type of thing). Thanks you for fixing my poor formatting, Gareth! SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:42, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Good evening SP and Hpj
I have added a new sub-heading, and altered the formatting to "*barnstar*" in my first post here to indicate that it is not a barnstar. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:42, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Good afternoon SP and Hpj, Thank you H for the "thanks"!
You see Hpj, we all get them if we are doing the right job here. In future, do as I just did—and always have done—revert the unpleasantness as soon as you are aware of it. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Gimme some cakes
Cakes

Hey, this maybe IS a rabbit? Hafspajen (talk) 18:13, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Wough! Slow down Doris! Mind you, I can understand; that chocolate cake looks inviting! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:32, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, that was exactly what I thought. You are a loving, nice and considerate person. Thanks. Hafspajen (talk) 10:41, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
The horseman serves the horse,
The neatherd serves the neat,
The merchant serves the purse,
The eater serves his meat;
'T is the day of the chattel,
Web to weave, and corn to grind;...
Things are in the saddle,
And ride mankind.

Hafspajen (talk) 12:53, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Vakarel's name is of Aromanian (Balkan Latin) origin, from the word vacarel, "cattleshed, cowshed" or with the Aromanian diminutive suffix –el, "young cowherd", cf. Romanian văcar, "cowboy, neatherd".
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:08, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Where are those Roman cowpeople coming from? Brueghel the Elder - The Dutch Proverbs - Google Art Project.jpg Here can you in this version click on the page and read those proverbs from the picture above, while clicking. Hafspajen (talk) 13:23, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed that when you made the original link above here. Very clever. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:19, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Another barnstar for you![edit]

The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
A brilliant idea. ................................................................................................................................................................................................. Hafspajen (talk) 17:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Hpj, Thank you. You are a splendid chap. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:50, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
You know what? You too. Hafspajen (talk) 09:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

A humble question[edit]

slightly tapering crowned Welsh hat

Now I am not making fun of this in any way (you may remove this any of these above if you want) but I am slightly confused by this [36] headgear. Is this a druid thing?Hafspajen (talk) 19:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

traditional Welsh hat

First shows the little girls in traditional lady's Welsh hats. God only knows what the man has on his head. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Ah, it is the Archdruid T. James Jones (born 1934) is a Welsh poet and dramatist, and former Archdruid of the National Eisteddfod of Wales. He is also known by the bardic name Jim Parc Nest. The others may be his friends. Hafspajen (talk) 19:32, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Very clever of you; how did you discover that? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:36, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

By checking the picture, (down there on the file) where it was linked. It gave me Jim Parc Nest on the welsh wiki. From there went back to the English on the interwiki language links. Hafspajen (talk) 19:49, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

So you did not need any expanation from me! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:36, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, I do. What is the Archdruid and his fellows doing on St David's Day - or Eisteddfods day? Hafspajen (talk) 01:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

The events are not related: The National Eisteddfod is traditionally held in the first week of August and the competitions are all held in the Welsh language. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:10, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Traditional English dress (only at weekends and on the Queen's birthday) SailCloudHighWhite (talk)
Good morning SailCloudHighWhite,
I am being invaded on two fronts; from Sweden and now the "old enemy"—just wait seven days and the Welsh will retaliate in attacking your fortress, "Twikkers" — Buzzard — 10:28, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I don't think anyone would have anything to fear from an invasion force which dressed like ←that (unless they were in danger of laughing themselves to death hehheh...) SailCloudHighWhite
Cymru am byth. Am I the one attacking or who is responsible for the Swedish attacks ? What is The Welsh Cheese Boat? HighWhiteNorth (talk)
Yes, it is you, HighWhiteNorth!
Just selling Welsh cheese—Wales is the New Zealand of the Northern Hemisphere—dairy farming is a major factor in the economy of Wales. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:54, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry Hpj, but I have had to Rm. recent edits—messed up background and I have wasted far too much time trying to find the cause. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, noticed that myself. Hafspajen (talk) 14:01, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
No worries. Start a new section, please, for future posts. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:08, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

GOCE February blitz wrapup[edit]

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Saint David's Day[edit]

A bluebell wood, near Lampeter in Wales

(Welsh: Dydd Gŵyl Dewi)St David’s Day – A celebration of Welsh history to remember — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:33, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Backlog drive[edit]

Feel free to delete after reading. Check out the table on this month's backlog drive. May be the only time I accomplish this (was a bit bored today)... Onel5969 (talk) 03:45, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

No way—it's staying.
Bil, you are a star ! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:28, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Tribute offered - Copy 'n' paste from User talk:Dr. Blofeld ...[edit]

[37] ... greatest guitarist in history and one of the most talented people of the 20th century

What a talent. So sad. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Gareth. Yeah unfortunately most of the world don't really realize what we've lost. Of course a few million people have heard of him (mostly in Spain, Mexico and US) but the majority really haven't and I bet there were millions of people the other day who were like "who cares, never heard of him" sort of thing. I've listened to hundreds of guitarists in my time and while there many terrific players in the world he was the best player I've ever seen by a country mile, particularly in raw technique and talent, but also in spirit. He might not have been as melodically as accomplished as my other favourite Joe Pass though. A lot of accomplished metal guitarists also cite him as the best and he used no effects or picks, machine gun picados!. You might enjoy this one.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:20, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Wonderful. Lifts one's spirits. Thank you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:27, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

This one also from the late 60s when he was a young man. There's very few people who can intimidate a camera and the audience as he does at 1:00!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:28, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

It is both enthralling and beguiling. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:44, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

New[edit]

Polled and horned Welsh Blacks
Welsh black cattle near Penderyn

The Welsh Black is a dual-purpose breed of cattle native to Wales. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones| — 21:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Saw you got rid of that blue colour.Hafspajen 15:50, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
... but could not get to the bottom of it. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones | — 21:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Good morning Hpj, Tell me how you think the thread now appears, please.— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | — 10:56, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
It is proeminently hat-directed. More like picking up one theme. Hafspajen 11:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
As it should do, because that was how you started the thread. So you think I should loose the Welsh Blacks?
Penderyn is the home of Penderyn Whisky, produced by the Penderyn Distillery (formerly the Welsh Whisky Company (Y Cwmni Wisgi Cymreig)). The award winning single malt whisky is the only whisky distilled in Wales, launched in 2004 after an absence of whisky distilling in Wales for more than 100 years.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones| — 12:26, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
If you remove that cattle from the gallery, then the gallery will be even, and that will make me happy. The only reason why I kept adding pictures was to make the gallery even (blushing; secret motives revealed ) Hafspajen 15:18, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
I have "remove[d] that cattle from the gallery". but I have moved cattle to "New". It is my page after all. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones| — 21:26, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
It is all yours, for sure. Hafspajen (talk) 21:56, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Hmm. I sometimes often doubt that. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:07, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
OK; I will only put pictures on it if you come to my page and ask for it. Hafspajen (talk) 22:17, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
No-o-o-w, I enjoy your surprise visits. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:27, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Man, you are hard to please. Hafspajen (talk) 22:27, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
It amuses me to be "difficult". I thought that was what endeared me to you. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:31, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Groan, File:Arthur Hughes - The Pained Heart.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 22:32, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Pretty young woman ... very much like my first wife, Jacqueline. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Ha! File:Hart Hunting.jpg. Hafspajen (talk) 22:55, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Gareth, sowing your teeth? Hafspajen (talk) 11:23, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Not an expression I have heard before. What does it mean? And why do you ask it? Is it this? — and my comment on Blowers' page? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:26, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Gareth, showing your teeth? Hafspajen (talk) 11:26, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Both. Happily. Dragon-slang. Dragon urban dictionary: In Greek myth, the dragons are real and breathe fire. The dragon's teeth once planted, would grow into fully armed warriors. The classical legends of Cadmus and Jason have given rise to the phrase "to sow dragon's teeth." This is used as a metaphor to refer to doing something that has the effect of fomenting disputes.File:Britannia-Triumphant-Wedgwood-BMA.jpg 17:09, 5 March 2014 (UTC)Hafspajen (talk)

A treat for my Talk page watchers[edit]

First this
and then this — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, will look closer. - Again a musician who's article I wrote died, see my user page. - The first link goes to my first FAC ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


Precious again[edit]

buzzard eyes
Thank you, Wikipedian Wales national rugby union team fan, for quality articles on Welsh topics, for being part of the Kindness Campaign, for gnomish work, for reading with buzzard eyes and giving peace a chance, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 401st recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I remember. And I remember how delighted I was at the time.
Now you have repeated your kindness with wonderful words of praise. I am humbled. Thank you dear friend. Sincerely, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:16, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Lovely!!Congratulations! Hafspajen (talk) 20:03, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For all your good work around here, your humour, style and wisdom, offered to all of us. Hafspajen (talk) 20:05, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Hafspajen (talk) 23:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Phoenix, Arizona[edit]

Hey there Gareth - I've finished the work on Phoenix, Arizona. Created a separate history page. If you get a chance I'd love to hear your thoughts. I'm thinking of submitting it for FA status. Will focus now on some GOCE work for the next week or so. Maybe some films.Onel5969 (talk) 05:35, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Good morning Bil,
I have been keeping a constant eye on the article & its Talk and continue to be in awe of your progress in adopting the peculiarities that exist in the World of Wikipedia.
This weekend, starting this evening is "chocablock" with big rugby matches so I shan't have much time for anything else.
Then, I shall devote time to reading both articles.
Have a great weekend! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:49, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Bil, Hafspajen is a good friend of mine and is also one of my friendliest (talk page stalker)s. He is a proud Scandinavian. A splendid geezer.
Cheers Hpj!
Footnote to both of you.
With regard to the following explanation of the Bri tish term, geezer,
Geezer is a term for a man. It can carry either the connotation of age and eccentricity in the UK, or that of self-education such as craftiness or stylishness. In the United States the term often refers to a cranky old man.
But please ignore the United States sentence with Hpj in mind. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:39, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
lol, Gareth... thanks for the very humorous explanation of the different versions in English. Pleased to meet you Hafspajen. Perhaps... Zeleny is the Americanized form of zelenyi, which is "green" in either Moravian or Czech (I could never discover exactly which one). I'm about 1/8 Moravian... the rest is pure Brit: Welsh, Irish and Scottish, although I don't think I have a smidgen of English in me. Onel5969 (talk) 13:22, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Gareth are you sure that I am cranky old man?
Yes, we met before, just on your first days, hope you are nice wikisloth nowadays. Hafspajen (talk) 13:28, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Mmm, p'haps you are — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:56, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
That's what you think... But what is a Swede: A pale person that has massive resistance to cold and hardship, like Russians but without the poverty. Very friendly and great to be with, even when they are hammered. Hafspajen (talk) 18:45, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Ah, but originally I said to you both, "please ignore [disregard] the United States sentence with Hpj in mind." Does that let me out of gaol [jail]? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:55, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

You are declared free. Hafspajen (talk) 19:26, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Good. Now I am switching my PC off for the evening! Good evening Hpj. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:31, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Really.singing Hafspajen (talk) 11:02, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Szóval aranyos. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:34, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey, you speak Hungarian!! And you adopted the Netherlandish Proverbs. Hafspajen (talk) 13:28, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Hi again. Finally finished Phoenix, Arizona and nominated it for FA status yesterday.Onel5969 (talk) 23:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Excellent achievement. I have been following developments, Bil, and I am unable to express my admiration for your endeavour. Well done! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:50, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Well... that was depressing (the FA process)...Onel5969 (talk) [Adding time/date stamp: 05:03, March 1, 2014—GG-J]

Good morning Bil,
That [38] is dispiriting news to greet me on Saint David's Day. I am bitterly disappointed—you have done so much good work and deserve the recognition. I may ask a senior editor to have a look at it. A Brit whose attitude I admire greatly. Please don't be discouraged! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:42, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. He did give it a once over. There are quite a few things I need to fix, which I had not noticed (and weren't noticed during the peer review either). I'll do some work on it today and see if I can't correct the issues. Appreciate the help.Onel5969 (talk) 12:35, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I imagine, Bil, that you have read this and this. He will go back to it. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:02, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
+1 — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:05, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Bil. Please be aware that I have been following Phoenix. That, and the latest post on my Talk appertaining to copy-editing Chinatown (1974 film) have led me to posting here against my intentions for the weekend ...

Notice to all watchers and posters: I had intended keeping away from contributing since my last edit at lunchtime yesterday until Monday due to the rugby this weekend, but in view of this post, and another here last night—both have made me feel very angry—I must at least acknowledge them.

I am sorry and understand how you must be right now. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:54, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Gareth... thanks for your support. Enjoy rugby this weekend!Onel5969 (talk) 19:14, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Bil. Now it is my turn to join you in being dispirited. Hope your weekend was peaceful and you are now feeling more positive about this Wikilark. I am on my third pint of Abbot Ale (5.0% alc.) drowning my sorrows. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:37, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Have one (or two) for me. Still slogging away on the copy edit stuff. Next, I'll start on some the film stuff I wanted to work on. Cymryd gofal.Onel5969 (talk) 21:26, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Carter family[edit]

Hey there, was wondering if you'd like to share your opinions on the Carter family page? I've attempted to flesh the article out more, but I think it's combination with the 'Wicks' family is rather silly... as Brian Wicks, Kevin Wicks and possibly Simon Wicks and Steven Beale are the only biological relatives and true 'Wicks'. David is merely Brian's stepson and Deano and Carly aren't Kevin's biological children. I feel this should centre more around the Carter family 2006-present. What are your views? Alex250P (talk) 15:46, 21 February, 2014 (UTC)

Hi Alex,
Until a moment ago I had not known of these two articles. [I see that I am redirected from Wicks family to Pat's page.]
Yes, I should be delighted to work with you on this idea. This weekend is busy for me—see thread above titled Phoenix, Arizona—but then we can go for it. Thank you. Sincerely, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:43, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
  • I have edited a little there; please could you let me know if what I have done is in-line with your thoughts on the article? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:26, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
I do apologise, it seems my message never posted. Yes that's excellent exactly what I was hoping to do, my next project is to hopefully expand on a 'development' section - there were a lot of articles both online and in print surrounding Danny Dyer's casting and the expansion of the Carter family, I'll try and compile a list of references to use and then begin a development section, you could do the same if you wish? Alex250P (talk)

Table ... need assistance[edit]


Please show me how to move the note [B] to the right-hand column. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:52, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Fixed. You simply forgot a cell; adding || before the note fixed the issue. Bjelleklang - talk 09:02, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanked Bjelleklang using Thanks

Main[edit]

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Tenure Presenters regular shift nb
2001– Bill Turnbull Monday—Wednesday [A]
2004–2014 [2] Louise Minchin [B]
2006– Charlie Stayt Thursday—Saturday [C]
2009– Naga Munchetty Sunday and relief
Jon Kay
2012– Roger Johnson
Simon McCoy
Sian Lloyd
2013– Tim Muffett
2014– Katherine Downes
  • A ^ Bill Turnbull presented Friday to Sunday on his addition to the programme in 2001 until 2007. Turnbull then presented Monday to Thursday alongside Sian Williams from 2007 to 2012.
  • B ^ Louise Minchin was initially a relief presenter when she joined Breakfast in 2006, she replaced Sian Williams to become a main presenter in 2012.
  • C ^ Charlie Stayt was initially a relief presenter when he joined Breakfast. Stayt then presented Friday to Sunday alongside Susanna Reid from 2007 to 2012. Susanna Reid presented from 2004 to February 2014.

G--Is this normal in WP for this type of personal attack?[edit]

Extract from Chinatown:

Perform What?[edit]

" Evelyn Mulwray (Ladd) hires private investigator J.J. "Jake" Gittes (Nicholson) to perform surveillance on her husband "

Never have heard surveillance expressed as perform. It almost gives one the feeling that surveillance might be a code word for falatio. Good thing private dick was not used.76.170.88.72 (talk) 23:24, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
English is not your first language? I'm starting to recognize something here. --Ring Cinema (talk) 00:52, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
What, that you have a fledging career in double entendre porn screenwriting?76.170.88.72 (talk) 01:06, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Again, you don't know English, so you have no basis to make a judgement. I wouldn't edit a page in your language, whatever it is. I'd suggest you edit the pages there. --Ring Cinema (talk) 01:13, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Is it natural for you to exhibit so much hatred toward others? You react as if someone has made a personal affront to you. You really should seek treatment for your own sake. Now, instead of making personal attacks, please stay on topic.76.170.88.72 (talk) 01:22, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Any help would be appreciated. Jim.

76.170.88.72 (talk) 01:29, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Not normal. Edits should focus on content. So should discussion on the talk page. Disparaging the other editor only makes one looks small by comparison. WP:Civil and WP:No personal attacks. If you warn them, and then they persist, then you can go to WP:AIV. That's my advice. I apologize for talk page lurking and butting in. 7&6=thirteen () 01:41, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Notice to all watchers and posters: I had intended keeping away from contributing since my last edit at lunchtime yesterday until Monday due to the rugby this weekend, but in view of this post, and another here last night—both have made me feel very angry—I must at least acknowledge them.
I have made the following revision on Chinatown (1974 film) with this edit summary

/* Plot */ Rm. "perform". Replace with "carry out". English as we speak it in the old country See dialogue on article Talk and User Talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones ...

My thanks to Stan for your welcomed involvement both here and on Chinatown's Talk.
Jim, I am sorry and understand how you must be right now.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:54, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
.. a good job I never perform surveillance on this Talk Page... Martinevans123 (talk) 13:19, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Enough! I am switching off now ... first match in 35 minutes. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:25, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
These little "warm-up" matches don't really matter, you know - it's the important one tomorrow!! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:28, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
But at least they help to reduce the tension. I can hardly cope with it. Now I am switching OFF — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:35, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Gareth, all is well between us. The unfortunate incident was with RC. I should have been more descriptive in the post explanation. I just thought that just because something may be "ordinary English" then if the connotation could be construed to something other than what is intended then it should be changed. "Perform" just does not hack it (I believe the phrase "hack it" derives from the eastern coast westward frontier experience in the US with using an axe effectively to clear all the forests). Even the word "hires" or "engages" would be a better choice if your suggestion was not provided. So, be reassured and return to your rugby. I did not send a thank you earlier to avoid interruption of your enjoyment. Personally, rugby is by far a more interesting sport than Am. football. With the endurance those players need to go up and down the field and not fumble the ball when they get a good bump from the opposing team is a wonder to me. And they certainly would not be the type of guys to get into a fight since they could not only knock me out with a single blow but if I decide to run they easily overcome the distance.76.170.88.72 (talk) 01:46, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Never mind, GG-J, Leigh did us proud!! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:42, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
He certainly did—so dedicated and so courageous—otherwise it was pretty much a repeat of the game against Ireland. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:56, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
... you might just be interested in Brian's achievements? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:00, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You are right they were "lucky tries", both of them, and of course, Leigh saved a third with that tackle. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:05, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

A wonderful player and man of the match in my book. What a tragedy for poor Gethin - getting binned for no good reason and then subbed at the last minute! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:11, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
I agree. The changes to the scrum rules have achieved next to nothing especially as the officials still never react to the ball not going in straight. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:16, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
As mentioned in the commentary, someone else was on their third offence, but escaped even a verbal reprimand... not as visible from that side of the scrum, I guess! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:20, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
I hate Dylan Hartley ... by jove, this Abbot Ale is tasting good tonight; getting back my equilibrium! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:33, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Ah yes, the good old Abbott.. one of the better things to come out of the land of the Ips. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:40, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Have you noticed the Abbot userbox at the top-right on this page, which I made for myself? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:46, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Haha, yes, very stylish. Just enjoying some hand selected exotic botanicals here. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:54, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Oh, yes! A great gin; one I choose too. I can see that you are so refined! Hey big spender ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:22, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi Martin! Continuing from what you wrote above about Gethin, [39] — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:30, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
First of all, I must explain to my dear and loyal friend, Hpj, that he completely misunderstood the post I left here, and on 76.170.88.72's talk, on Saturday morning,
Chinatown (1974 film) Just in case you have not seen my note to you on my Talk ... I had intended keeping away from contributing since my last edit at lunchtime yesterday until Monday due to the rugby this weekend, but in view of this post, and another here last night—both have made me feel very angry—I must at least acknowledge them.
I have made the following revision on Chinatown (1974 film) with this edit summary
/* Plot */ Rm. "perform". Replace with "carry out". English as we speak it in the old country See dialogue on article Talk and User Talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones
My thanks to Stan for your welcomed involvement both here and on Chinatown's Talk.
Jim, I am sorry and understand how you must be right now. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:54, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
and that the anger I was feeling is aimed entirely at Ring Cinema,
and, secondly, @ IP:76.170.88.72, your post on my Talk caused me no confusion; I understood it perfectly and my brief reply was to let you know that I would apply myself to the matter after the weekend. I had no doubt that it was distressing you, and I wanted to let you know that you had my support. Over the past weeks, you and I have worked together on different articles and I know that you have an excellent command of written English; far above the standard of the average contributor to this project. I do not know what you mean by, "by TC presumption" (here, above) but the flow of your extract on my Talk was abundantly clear to me.
I have edited in collaboration with this editor many times over the past two years and while we h,ave disagreed at times, I believed we respected each others point of view. I do not comprehend how Ring Cinema can accuse you of editing in a language foreign to you, when you have yet to show me an indication that you are not a natural English speaker and that English is not your first language' His remarks are derogatory and malicious. An apology is in order. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:42, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
YeeeeS? Hafspajen (talk) 12:45, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
As Gareth isn't 'in' at the moment, here are some Welsh cakes for you Hpj, to aid your recovery after having travelled so far... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 14:28, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Cloud oh C-loud, you are always very thoughtful. Take them with me on my way home. Hafspajen (talk) 14:43, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Good morning Martin, PCW, Hpj, SP, and any watcher passing by. Something to make you laugh [40]! 09:39, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Morning! I enjoyed watching that and yes, it did make me laugh! Didn't get a ping about this though - you have to do a full four tildes to make them work, I think? Just as well this isn't the Swedish Wikipedia or we would all be blocked for prettying up our talk pages! SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:46, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Well I am ashamed on the Viborg peoples (Picture of the day) behalf. Hafspajen (talk) 12:24, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
I did enjoyed watching that too, now that I kind of had time for it, and yes, it did make me laugh! Hafspajen (talk) 19:45, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Gareth Griffith-Jones there is a message for you under the link - Phil, don't touch this, at Marty's page. Hafspajen (talk) 20:58, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Glad you enjoyed it , SP—my apology for that extra tilde—must have been rocking with laughter.— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:16, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Me too, Gareth!
Hafs, Just call me Ethel!
SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:57, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Good morning SP & Hpj! I have always been a fan of Ray Stevens, such a talent, but have never seen that video before. Thank you both for such fun—inspired by Hpj last night, and researched by SP today. Four not five this morning; I don't want SP's "second warning" ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:23, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Highly funny was it. Hafspajen (talk) 11:42, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Side-splitting! You must watch it Hpj! Click on the Ethel link above! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:53, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Will soon reward myself with that, after working hard here (paper) ... Hafspajen (talk) 12:59, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
... and have you, Hpj? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:19, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
I did. Hafspajen (talk) 00:07, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

A beer for you![edit]

Make my freedom asserted.............................................................. Hafspajen (talk) 12:26, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Annie Hall[edit]

.. not how I remember Alvy Singer at all...

You might want to see what our old friend Winkelvi is up to at Annie Hall. I've run out of reverts and I'm double teamed. Maybe you agree with me but the status quo should be maintained while the discussion continues. See what you think. --Ring Cinema (talk) 00:33, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Not sure why Gareth has been brought into this, but the fact is that Ring's removed part of the lead which summarised the article better which I added and is insisting that casting doesn't belong in production. I don't know your experience with film editing but you only have to look at any FA/GA. I'm trying to get it up to GA but this sort of edit warring and now the protection is jeopardizing the effort.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:42, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Canvassing? "I'm all out of reverts" (essentially asking for someone to meat-puppet for you)? Tsk, tsk. -- Winkelvi 00:39, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Apparently Winkelvi is a sock puppet for SchroCat. Kind of obvious, since he wasn't editing on the page at all until SchroCat ran out of reverts. --Ring Cinema (talk) 00:42, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Nice low blow that—impressive to plumb those depths with absolutely no basis in fact or reality. - SchroCat (talk) 00:44, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Now you're not assuming good faith by questioning how I came upon the 3RR disruption at the article and suggesting some sort of conspiracy? Or is your "sock puppet" accusation for real? If so, you need to redact it. Immediately. After you do that, my suggestion is that you stop digging the hole deeper, Ring. -- Winkelvi 00:47, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Haha, Winkevli a sockpuppet for SchroCat, that's hilarious and I'm sure even Winkelvi would agree!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:39, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
It's obvious. Winkelvi only started editing on Annie Hall after SchroCat received his 3RR warning. And all he did was revert. It's not hard to figure it out, and it's unsurprising they deny it, of course. --Ring Cinema (talk) 13:03, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
  • If you're too stupid to think that two people may disagree with you, independently of one another, and if you have absolutely no idea with WP:AGF means (and I strongly suggest you read it prpoerly), then go ahead and file or withdraw the idiotic accusation. - SchroCat (talk) 13:15, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
If you seriously think that Winkelvi is sockpuppet of SchroCat I suggest you look at the talk page of Talk:Philip Seymour Hoffman, SchroCat is on very good terms with myself and Loeba and we've promoted many articles working together. Do you think he'd speak to me or Loeba or anybody like that? I hardly think so. Obviously Winkelvi came across it somehow in recent changes or my editing history or whatever and stepped in and did what he thought was right and he was correct to do so, he's also right on the cast section. Anyway, can we please continue this elsewhere, Gareth's talk page isn't the right place for this, sorry Gareth about this :-] . ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:28, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Cakes for Daddy[edit]

Hafspajen (talk) 12:52, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

What a selection! Have removed just one that did not appeal to my senses.
Fancy this description!
"Victoria Sponge cake with cream and a strawberry. Served at the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway café. The cafe is now called the Russell Tea Rooms, and is run on behalf of the Welsh Highland Railway Limited" — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:49, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
You can go and order some at the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway café. Hafspajen (talk) 14:57, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Daddy you made that gallery uneven!!!!!!!!!!! You know uneven galleries gives me the creeps![41] Hafspajen (talk) 13:55, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
I see five per row (first row) then two (was three) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:03, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Gosh - really. I see first row four, next tree. Same old problem, why can't any programer do galleries that look the same everywhere. Achch Hafspajen (talk) 14:05, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
It is my 17.3 inches wide-screen — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:16, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Mine is 19 inches or so. Could this be the problem? Hafspajen (talk) 14:57, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Widescreen images are a variety of aspect ratios used in film, television and computer screens. In film, a widescreen film is any film image with a width-to-height aspect ratio greater than the standard 1.37:1, so I would have not thought so; if yours is a widescreen then it should show the same format as mine. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:07, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Why do I now have two Charlottes? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:11, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
It is a miracle! Praise the Lord! Amen. Hafspajen (talk) 17:55, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Made it more compact. Quite enough now — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:12, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Ha! ... Hafspajen (talk) 13:57, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
That looks extremely unhealthy; I prefer non-processed food — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:00, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
dragonThis user's favourite animal is the dragon.
I could guess you wouldn't like it, your aristocratic tastes would revolt. Just chuck the thing. Hafspajen (talk) 17:57, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

I have! Even my dog rejected it. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:48, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

No, really that is not dog food either. Everybody who cares for his/her dogs would never dream about giving such crap to the little dears. Ask Phil. Hafspajen (talk) 12:21, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I am most particular in everything that my dog and I consume, as I am sure you are.
Hope you liked my gift? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:29, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Gareth, you naughty boy!! I am affraid my weekend will not be so nice, some emergency occured. Might not be able to show up att Bishzilla's poet's corner party. Hafspajen (talk) 12:36, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Here is the party at Bish Made some early start. Hafspajen (talk) 14:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Already on my watchlist (see Bish's Talk yesterday!) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:55, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
So you trimmed the cake section.Hafspajen (talk) 21:51, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Unlike you, I do not have a sweet tooth — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:47, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
I don't know if I have either. I am just draged in in this gave cake euphoria. They look good. I usually eat fruit, nuts and honey. Ocasionally egg toddy. File:Nordströmska Gården gata.JPG Hafspajen (talk) 22:50, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
I have been opening your hidden files, but am at a loss to understand your latest. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:56, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Typical streets. File:M Mikaels gata 2009c.jpgHafspajen (talk) 23:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Right? (... none the wiser ...) But why are we looking at streets? Typical of what? Of where you live? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:07, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes. le couleur locale Hafspajen (talk) 23:37, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
C'est la plus élégante. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:43, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Since Gareth was not at the party, some music and dancing for him[edit]

File:BellyDancerMarrakech.jpg|Belly Dancers File:Flickr - dalbera - Danseuses de Kuchipudi (musée Guimet).jpg File:Kathak 3511900193 986f6440f6 b retouched.jpg File:Manipuri Dance.jpg </gallery> Hafspajen (talk) 10:19, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Was looking for some pictures to show you old streets. how are yours? Hafspajen (talk) 23:55, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
How does the streets look like that you walk on? Hafspajen (talk) 10:13, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Lanes[edit]

Like these: — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:22, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Lovely. Hafspajen (talk) 15:18, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Peter Capaldi as Doctor Who with Keeley Hawes[edit]

Dr. Who: Keeley to play Ms Delphox

Here's what the BBC is saying about Keeley Hawes' role on Dr Who

Line Of Duty's Keeley Hawes will join the cast of Doctor Who, following rave reviews for her outstanding performance as DI Lindsay Denton in the hit BBC drama. Starring opposite the Doctor, Hawes will guest star for one episode in Peter Capaldi's first ever series as the Time Lord.

Set to transmit in the autumn this year, Hawes will play Ms Delphox, a powerful out-of-this-world character with a dark secret. Travelling across space and time the Twelfth Doctor (Peter Capaldi) and his companion, Clara Oswald (Jenna Coleman), will come face to face with the mysterious Ms Delphox when they arrive on a strange and puzzling planet. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:45, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Thank you for the friendly welcome, and for fixing my first contribution. I will read the guidelines before proceeding. Thurgoodjd (talk) 00:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

You are very welcome! Please ask here if you need advice; if I cannot help, I will find someone who can. Happy editing! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 00:10, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

How about[edit]

... "She began an affair with the new dairy unit manager, Rob Titchener from Hampshire, still married to Jess who remained in Hampshire caring for her father." ... ? Works for me. I confess I find all this stuff a bit frivolous, but since I listen to The Archers I am in no position to complain about frivolous, I guess.

Actually, this business does trigger two slightly more general thoughts for me:
The entry on Character in The Archers contains lots of sentences each with lots of clauses. It troubles my digestion. I can do long sentences myself. I even once tried to read a Thomas Mann novel in German (though I was younger at the time, and even then I don't think I ever finished it.) But I do find two short sentences often work better than one long one that one has had to read twice in order to figure out where it came from and where it's going to especially now that the young people are taught to avoid commas or giving the reader anywhere else obvious to breath when in any sort of doubt. That's behind my intensely tiresome habit of sometimes dividing long wiki-sentences composed by other people into more shorter sentences....
In the case of Helen and Rob, there are clearly all sorts of possible plot twists and turns being set up. But it seems to me that by stating that Helen began the relationship you are slightly prejudging the thing. Maybe it was mutual. Maybe it was a cunning plan by Rob who is surely being set up as another new-comer hate figure, just as Jack Woolley, Linda Snell and Brian Aldridge were in their day. (And if you were too busy on the day job back then to have the faintest idea what I'm on about here, that is greatly to your credit....) But stating that Helen was the one who started it, implying that she was the (principal) instigatrix.... I'm not sure.
Please don't take my thought sharing exercise seriously (at least not on this occasion), but having had the thoughts I felt the urge to download them somewhere before lunch.
Regards Charles01 (talk) 12:13, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Good to hear back from you again! Oh, I always managed to listen regardless of pressure of work. More than that, as a boy, I used to listen to Dick Barton, and remember those early Brookfield beginnings.
Totally agree with you regarding length of sentence and use of punctuation. I shall return to revise my editing there. Kindest wishes, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:34, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
It now reads, In 2013 she was attracted to the new dairy unit manager, Rob Titchener. He was married to Jess who remained in Hampshire caring for her father. An affair was inevitable. Helen and Henry moved in with Rob in 2014.
with edit summary: "That's enough said. This is not a plot summary."
What do you think? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:54, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
"Inevitable" introduces a whole new set of ... but no, one shouldn't take these things so seriously. I wouldn't want you to think me picky. I think it looks just fine! Happy day. Charles01 (talk) 14:38, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Ha! I did tussle with "inevitable" before saving. I may give it more thought. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:25, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Charles I appreciate your revision—"In 2013 she was attracted to the recently arrived dairy unit manager, Rob Titchener. Intimacy ensued, although Rob was still married to Jess who remained in Hampshire caring for her sick father. Helen and Henry moved in with Rob in early 2014."—perfect. Have a great day! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
A generous sentiment. So thank you for sharing it. The best Charles01 (talk) 19:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Charles.Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:36, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Happy Vernal Equinox Day[edit]

You have been selected to receive a merchandise giveaway. We last contacted you on 3/11/14. Please send us a message if you would like to claim your shirt. --JMatthews (WMF) (talk) 06:41, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Good morning Juli Matthews,
I am writing in reply to your post on my Talk earlier this morning [42]—I did not receive the message that you refer to as, "We last contacted you on 3/11/14."
Yes please! I should like to receive my gift—what do you want me to do now? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:33, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Happy Vernal Equinox Day!
Hope you had a lovely ray of spring sunshine where you are!! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
How very thoughtful; thank you Martin. Great links as ever. Glad to have winter behind us, but worry how quickly time passes. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:25, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Did you knew I always thought Fantin-Latour was a rose? Hafspajen (talk) 16:48, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Good morning Hpj, I suspect you were thinking of this wonderful climber — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:27, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes, it is the article Garden of Ninfa that should be nominated for DYK. And I think you are right, that pink rose on the picture in this garden article could be a Zephirine Drouhin. A short but wonderful clinber, grows in shade and has lovely pinkish lilac roses. Hafspajen (talk) 12:56, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
I am now reading Angels and Demons; having read the subsequent three Robert Langdon novels chronologically. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:58, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Works fine for me, folks! But I think the three of us must be a bit mad. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:00, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Good Sunday, Martin! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:04, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Gareth, please try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4WVPRyzVOU as a direct link or just cut and paste. The other version did something slightly weird for me but did work, but I hope that trying a stripped-down version might work better for you. Or, indeed, just go to YouTube and search for a video called "Three Hares of Stonehenge" by the user pantzer1. It is quite a fun video! :) Hope this helps; best wishes DBaK (talk) 11:47, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh sorry I just saw that 7&6=thirteen had already redone the link, so my note above is probably irrelevant. Oh well ... shutting up now! :) 11:55, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Turning out to be a bit of a treasure hunt, this one! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:11, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Well, I was not expecting all this! Thanks to DB&K for your always welcomed input here; and to Stan for his assiduous efforts; and to Martin who always manages to keep us on track and avoid getting serious. I suspect the problem lay with the fact that I disabled Bing months ago and Stan's original hyperlink included Bing. Never did like his crooning. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:09, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
At times I have found things better on Bing than on Google. FWIW, They are not coterminous. 7&6=thirteen () 14:55, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Got to watch the hares at Stonehenge. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| —

Pillow hit[edit]

Oh, well good night then. Hafspajen (talk) 00:55, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Me too. Sleep well! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 01:02, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Good morning

Good morning Hpj.
What a stunning picture!
That is staying in situ until I next archive, which will be not before the end of May. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:19, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Hawk and Black-Game

Hafspajen (talk) 13:42, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
... adding to editing to "thumb" it and screen it. I love it.— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:39, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Nice, isn't it "The Old Bruno" who made it. Hafspajen (talk) 11:54, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Nice? It's forceful, severe; passionate. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:58, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

  • Well, yes. I guess I am getting a poor vocabulary, editing Wikipedia. Here if you say anything like this, ten people will run and say NPOV! Veasel! Peacock!Hafspajen (talk) 12:28, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Ha! You are not wrong. — | Gareth

Wikibannner[edit]

Not doing a whole lot of editing. Am still smarting and p.o.'d about the AIV fiasco, even though it got disposed of in short order. Just goes to show that some idiot can file a complaint, and if he gets lucky can get a sympathetic interim decision from an uninformed admin. Sigh. 7&6=thirteen () 22:42, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Good morning Stan,
Let it go! Not worth using energy on it—when I get anything similar, I delete anything posted here immediately and refuse to allow myself to reply anywhere.
As the one who nominated me, did you notice that Juli Matthews contacted me about my t-shirt here, titled, "Thank you! A gift from fellow Wikipedians."?
I responded on her Talk here, but I had not read Lugnuts's response there at [7] until after replying. Consequently, I have taken no further action following her reply to me.
What is your advice? Any thoughts? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:54, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Cynical in my old age? Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 08:41, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
You are right. Life is short. But I am otherwise busy, so I've definitely throttled back on editing. 7&6=thirteen () 11:29, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
I was counting on Lugnuts to get it just right. First class! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:31, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Curmudgeon is my middle name. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:42, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia needs editors such as you. I share your disdain for IPs. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:41, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you - it's nice to hear that. My disdain for IPs was the subplot of this drama, but it wasn't relevant to the outcome. Happy days. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 08:22, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Ha! Well said, makes good reading. You appear to be applying the boomerang to our t-shirt character. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:37, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Matt Otten[edit]

Worth checking out, Martin too.♦ Dr. Blofeld

Certainly is ... thank you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:55, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Keeps me humble. Just when I think I'm getting really good at jazz guitar.. I'm currently learning to play this. The bass kinda ruins the recording. It's not the best of Pass's covers but it's technically demanding with some interesting licks and progressions which is why I'm learning it! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:46, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Impression, soleil levant is a painting by Claude Monet. It gave rise to the name of the Impressionist movement
I am impressed! You must be modest "In Your Own Sweet Way". Just heard it all the way through—a delightful piece. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:16, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes, that's a very nice video. Have always been a huge fan of the man himself. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:44, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Here's something totally different, from 1974 (in case you have not heard before), and you like this guy.... : [43]. My advice.... wait until you are not busy and can just relax.... and you can get in touch with the stars, planets etc.... (still makes me shiver this one). Martinevans123 (talk) 22:23, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Interesting Martin! Time for some Julie London.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:18, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Lovely. Billboard named her the most popular female vocalist for 1955, 1956, and 1957. She was the subject of a 1957 Life cover article in which she was quoted as saying, "It's only a thimbleful of a voice, and I have to use it close to the microphone. But it is a kind of oversmoked voice, and it automatically sounds intimate.
A class act. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:29, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
I do love Ella, Sarah and Billie, but Julie's admittedly my favourite jazz singer. BTW I started An Affair to Remember (Our Love Affair) the other day. Beautiful song here. Too bad the chemistry between Grant and Kerr in the film was so non existent! Why anybody would cast her in a romantic role beats me!! If it had been Ingrid Bergman in the film it would have been so much better. Still, Burt Lancaster and Rita Hayworth in Separate Tables are unrivalled for lacking chemistry in a film!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:50, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
It is beautiful; Cannot disagree with you latest observations.
Now, to change the subject, have you been following this? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:59, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Great song, much better than the film itself! BTW have you heard Bill Evans and Stan Getz's Emily? Ring Cinema, nope I hadn't been following him, he just happened to be somebody annoying stopping me from promoting Annie Hall! Doesn't surprise me, his approach to editing is about as far from the spirit of collaboration as you can get!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:10, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! I enjoyed that. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:22, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

We're not old ...[edit]

File:Teddy bears Herbert and Paula (03).jpg
Phil and Gareth philosophising about life

... just re-cycled teenagers! I'm told that quote is attributed to Jennifer Saunders but I suspect it originates elsewhere! Now that I hopefully have your attention I wonder if you can help/advise - I know you are interested in TV programmes so am relying on that interest also covering films! What looks like a new editor, Sudhindranath, has been making a number of changes to Hachi: A Dog's Tale - in particular the addition of the google maps/instaview links for where filming was undertaken. I thought a bot might come along and remove them as I suspect they shouldn't be used? I'm also concerned about the length of the 'Plot' section - a massive 1100 words! I know nothing about WP guidelines concerning films etc (and, to be honest, when I see some of the things used as refs in songs and films I'm always dismayed!) so that's why I've landed here to seek your expertise! SagaciousPhil - Chat 13:02, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Just my forté. Both the film article and the editor are now on my watchlist. All contributions have been on the article. I am short of time for WP today, but it will have my attention tomorrow. As an aside, how did you spot it? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:24, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Gareth. It's listed under the DOGS project, so appears under the dog recent changes listing, which I do check. No urgency with it and your help is much appreciated! SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:31, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
SP, Do you see what I see? [44] & [45] their editing history today. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:49, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Looks like we might have a matching pair of socks? Sorry to have dumped all this work on you! I've also been looking at an IPs edits that I stumbled upon via the dog recent changes - the IP already has a block log and seems to have great fun messing about with all sorts of film/cartoon articles! Oh the joys ... ... SagaciousPhil - Chat 19:13, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Just returned, SP. Actually, I rather enjoy this mode of activity. I am sure it is more entertaining than working on Dyk (!), but don't tell Hpj! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:05, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
This user is not a dragon but will probably be one in his next life
YOU DID not DISAPOINTED ME AT ALL. jUST WANTED TO INVOLVE YOU IN SOMETHING YOU MIGHT enjoyed. Hafspajen (talk) 23:32, 27 March 2014 (UTC)UPPER CASE, TOO LATE, i AM LAZY TO START AGAIN

by: W.B. Yeats

Don't foget to take a look at the Garden of Ninfa time to time

I went out to the hazel wood,
Because a fire was in my head,
And cut and peeled a hazel wand,
And hooked a berry to a thread;
 
And when white moths were on the wing,
And moth-like stars were flickering out,
I dropped the berry in a stream
And caught a little silver trout.
 
When I had laid it on the floor
I went to blow the fire a-flame,
But something rustled on the floor,
And some one called me by my name:
It had become a glimmering girl
With apple blossom in her hair
Who called me by my name and ran
And faded through the brightening air.
 
Though I am old with wandering
Through hollow lands and hilly lands,
I will find out where she has gone,
And kiss her lips and take her hands;
And walk among long dappled grass,
And pluck till time and times are done
The silver apples of the moon,
The golden apples of the sun.

Good evening Hpj, I am very fond of Yeats. Thank you! Not too certain about the cuddling [photo] I don't want to ge into trouble You are not the only one to type away and then be infuriated on finding the Caps Lock was on! I have done it countless times. Trust your exams went okay? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 23:59, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Eh.. Hafspajen (talk) 00:43, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
I think the teddy bears are cute! SagaciousPhil - Chat 06:33, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry about US spelling. Hafspajen (talk) 10:04, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
No need. You noticed it and—with a nudge from a certain ladyyou changed it. Thanks! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:19, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Was probably wise of you not too do DYK. Hafspajen (talk) 08:34, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Mmm. I spotted the outcome. I am sorry ... new month tomorrow ...“For last month’s words belong to last month’s language and next month’s words await another voice.” T.S. Eliot.
Hope you have a great week! — Buzzard — 09:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry[edit]

I apologise for that inadvertent revert on your page. Editing on an iPad has its drawbacks: it is too easy to revert an edit while reviewing. Ground Zero | t

What were you "reviewing"? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
You seem to have some history with the anon editor I am engaging with at the moment. I was looking to learn more about how to deal with him. Regards, Ground Zero | t 11:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

A pizza for you![edit]

The Godfather is sending you some Godfather's Pizza for all your hard work on his articles. Hafspajen (talk) 19:22, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
You noticed ... thank you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:42, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Gareth, will you help me, I would likre to have an archive like yours, where one can chuck in things time to time, a long nice archive, like yours. I don't like those small ones, yours is much better. I might need some archiving... Even if I want to keep some parts of the actual page it would be an idea to make that page shorter. Hafspajen (talk) 12:42, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
I would be glad to ... never could understand why anyone would want those countless archives numbering from 1 to god knows what ...
Do you know how to create another User page? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Actually don't know anything. Will you make an archive like this for me, please. And tell me how to go on to archive things. Hafspajen (talk) 12:52, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Right, I will, but it has to be made in your 'space'
So we will take it step-by-step:
On your internet browser address bar, paste this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hafspajen/First manual archive
Press enter! If "Auto-shortened by Snap-do", click on "Undo", and press enter again.
That is all. From now on, you are in familiar territory; just like the first time you created your user page or any article, and you can put anything you want in it! Just use Copy, cut 'n' paste — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:33, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
OK, try later. If not come back and cry. Hafspajen (talk) 13:47, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Was busy saving all I needed. Hafspajen (talk) 19:01, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Hpj, Clarify, please! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Wanted to save all barnstars and stuff over to the userpage, before archiving. Hafspajen (talk) 09:54, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Hpjay, are you Okay? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:20, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


OH, yes, I am only having separation anxiety from my talk page. Hafspajen (talk) 14:35, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


OK; my problem is that I want to do a new, from now on - forward. Hafspajen (talk) 13:17, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Special Barnstar
For interjecting common sense into a discussion. 7&6=thirteen () 19:04, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry![edit]

Profuse apologies for my revert of your edit to Alice in Wonderland (2010 film). The lesson here is "Never scroll down your watchlist on a Google Nexus tablet before the page has fully loaded, in case your finger strays over the revert button." Cheers.► Philg88 ◄ talk 16:55, 5 April 2014 (UTC) Good morning Phil G, Thank you for your explanation. I was surprised at the time, having observed your credentials. Have a good Sunday! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:52, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

You too! Best, ► Philg88 ◄ talk 07:55, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Did you notice this? Similar? Two within a week! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:01, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Indeed I did. I've been on the other end of it too, which caused some serious head scratching based on the editor's track record. In future I think I shall stay away from monitoring my watchlist on a tablet whilst in the pub! Cheers, ► Philg88 ◄ talk 08:07, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

April 2014 GA Thanks[edit]

On behalf of WP:CHICAGO, I would like to thank you for your editorial contributions to Christopher Nolan.

.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:37, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


A bowl of strawberries for you![edit]

Thanks for all your help, soon will go and will do IT... Hafspajen (talk) 23:38, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Good morning! Is NǾGNE Ǿ BROWN ALE 4.5% ABV known to you, Hpj? My favourite local pub has just had it in on draught for their real ale festival. I have enjoyed a couple of pints ... pretty good! Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:11, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
This is the only place I found anything about it. [46] Hafspajen (talk) 12:57, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
That was smart of you Hpj!
Bateman's Brewery and Salem Bridge Mill
Bateman's Brewery and Salem Bridge Mill

Edvard Hortemo made the journey to Batemans Brewery in Lincolnshire to brew this special beer— its interpretation of a deep brown English best bitter. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:22, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Red link Edvard Hortemo, Gareth? Why? Hafspajen (talk) 13:57, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Because he is a Norwegian, I thought you might find him on your Scandinavian Wikipedias. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:01, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Is it him? [47] Hafspajen (talk) 21:17, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
I would say, "For certain ..." I have signed & datestamped your post — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:00, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
1072This user is ranked 1072 on the list of Wikipedians by number of edits.
File:L'Aurore by William-Adolphe Bouguereau - BMA.jpg
Thank you Hpj! A lovely painting of dawn. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:24, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Gareth - thanks for your friendly eye over my shoulder. I really appreciate it. Best wishes, Tony Holkham (talk) 22:23, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

You are doing so well. Thank you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:04, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

A few fun items for your perusal[edit]

  1. Hello G. Each year our newspaper has a Peeps diorama contest. Here is a link to pics of this years winners and other entries. Some of them are quite inventive.
  1. I finished episode one of the new season of J Creek last night. It was quite fun and well done and the allusions to other works were a treat to look for. The send up of Phantom was a hoot. There were several references to Alien (film) including the plaque that read Nostromo at sister-in-laws estate. The character Ridley attempted to solve the murder ala Benedict's Sherlock and was wearing a similar scarf as well. I don't know if his resemblance to Tennant's 10th Dr was on purpose or just a coincidence.
  1. The editor didn't give you an answer to the question that you posted on my talk page. I think that the name comes from this book by the inimitable Dr S. The "x" at the end may be a ref to Doug Adams used the letter in a few characters names in his book but that is just a guess.

I hope that you enjoy some of these and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 20:32, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Good morning Michael, Thank you for this; I have enjoyed reading it all.
For my own part, I just want to tell you that I am taking an immediate sabbatical —lasting at least twelve days—with no access to a computer. All the best to you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:57, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:24, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

I hope you have/had a wonderful time. MarnetteD | Talk 16:42, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Oh, what a great birthday card! Thank you, Michael. Wonderful fun ... memory lane ... each with delightful dog on the front passenger seat ... arriving at a typical country pub.
The Mini is just like the one I bought new in 1963, and two of my uncles owned Morris Minors.
(Always regretted not owning an E-Type)
A splendid greeting. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:58, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

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Stanley Turrentine[edit]

[48] I like it! Stanley Turrentine and Dexter Gordon are two I've really got into of late and have fast becomes among my favourite jazz artists. I much prefer them to John Coltrane actually.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Blowers. Just returned to my PC and have been warmly welcomed by listening to your splendid jazz.
Hope all is well with you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:20, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Check out the Dexter Gordon concert here.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:13, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I am enjoying it now. A belated happy birthday for the 4th
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:20, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

I got the size album set of Turrentine. Love this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:46, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

"My Girl Is Just Enough Woman for Me" is moody and marvellous, Blowers, thank you for the link. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:08, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Disambiguation Pen-y-bryn/Pen y bryn/Penybryn/Penbryn[edit]

Hi Gareth,

Don't know where you could possibly have been without access to a computer (horror of horrors) but hope you had a good time! I have a question about disambiguation but can't find a guideline that I can follow to set up a disambiguation page for this name with various spellings, which is quite common throughout Wales - if you agree there should be one. No rush. Cheers, Tony Holkham (talk) 13:41, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Good afternoon Tony,
Only just returned to my PC and have been giving your proposal some considerable thought.
I have come to the conclusion that this is a spelling aggravation rather than a Wikipedian disambiguation. Consequently I would imagine that your well-intended ambition would prove impossible to achieve.
Similar examples appear all over Wales, least of all Glan-y-nant in my own family history(!)
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:35, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Gareth. I take your point and will remove this ambition from my list! Glad you enjoyed your break. Cheers Tony Holkham (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!!![edit]

But it looks like we are going to celebrate it without you. Hafspajen (talk) 02:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Gosh! Whew! , thank you Hpj for this over-whelming birthday greeting. Thanks for remembering! What more can I say ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:45, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Hpj forgot his thumb, again ... she is a pretty girl ... could not see her before. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:22, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
She is saying to you: Happy Birthday!!! Hafspajen (talk) 23:55, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Hey I didn't get an exotic beauty on my birthday (4th May) LOL! Not fair!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:13, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

All this was supposed to be on display, but I got distracted by the fact you where nowhere ... Hafspajen (talk) 20:07, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you my dear friend. Very much appreciated. Sincerely, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:20, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
And is it good? The book you are reading? I read the previous you were reading ... by Dan Brown. Hafspajen (talk) 09:40, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
I will let you know in good time. I read The Da Vinci Code a number of years ago; then The Lost Symbol in 2010. I consider the 2013 novel Inferno to be his weakest. What did you think of Angels & Demons? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:28, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Just thought: Very exiting. Clever. Interesting. I liked the way he wrote. Hafspajen (talk) 13:38, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Well, it was a little bit like the Da Vinci code... (and now all kinds of weird people edit the poor Da Vinci article, and some say that he was a vegetarian...) Hafspajen (talk) 18:36, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Hpj asks, "And is it good? The book you are reading?"
My reply after first 100 pages, "Yes, it is remarkable and so unlike any other of his novels. I have always enjoyed the sly humour he injects, and here it is more evident, even obvious, and with a sinister undercurrent ever present, it makes terrific reading." Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:56, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
OK, now I got that... Hafspajen (talk) 11:08, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
  • It is like: Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson were going camping. They pitched their tent under the stars and went to sleep. Sometime in the middle of the night Holmes woke Watson up and said: "Watson, look up at the stars, and tell me what you see." Watson replied: "I see millions and millions of stars." Holmes said: "And what do you deduce from that?" Watson replied: "Well, if there are millions of stars, and if even a few of those have planets, it’s quite likely there are some planets like Earth out there. And if there are a few planets like Earth out there, there might also be life." And Holmes said: "Watson, you ***, it means that somebody stole our tent." (joke)Hafspajen (talk) 13:19, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
That is an excellent story. Thanks! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:34, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
New I forgot SOMETING !!
Thank you for the red rose ... it looks amazing after clicking on it. You are a kind, sincere man. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:15, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Thought - you like red wine... maybe you like red roses too.. no? Hafspajen (talk) 21:35, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
I certainly do. You have treated me magnificently! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:52, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
...."she eats fish", "we hunt nothing".Hafspajen (talk) 22:17, 15 May 2014 (U TC)
Exactly! I sometimes wonder why I bother to reply to such as those. Am I dejected? No, don't let it get to me ...— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:37, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
You are doing just fine! Hafspajen (talk) 18:55, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

I thought this might amuse you[edit]

[49]

Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:22, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Ha, ha, ha! It certainly did. Very funny (and typical) Thank you for thinking of me! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:51, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Verb valency[edit]

Dear Gareth, Please explain why you reverted my extension and citation with respect to verb valency 2. Thanks!Redav (talk) 18:47, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Good morning Redav,
Thank you for your post.
Your addition is a non-sourced personal opinion (yours?) and would require an example, too. One cannot use Wikipedia as a reference. Also your "e.g." is not in accordance with our manual of style. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:11, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Exactly what manual of style are you referring to? It is not excluded, and indeed used several times, on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Abbreviations.Redav (talk) 00:57, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Take a look! [50] It us in the piece where you added your comment. 'For example: "she eats fish", "we hunt nothing".' — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:13, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

I enjoyed listening to Jimmy Wales on the Today programme this morning on BBC Radio 4. He came over well and has an easy style.[edit]

I enjoyed listening to Jimmy Wales on the Today programme this morning on BBC Radio 4. He came over well and has an easy style. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:11, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Jimbo's talk page[edit]

Your edit to Jimbo's talk page altered the headings level and changed the context of my pre-existing comment: I've reverted it. Please take care not to interfere with other people's comments on a talk page. I'll replace your text at the end of the section. PamD 09:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

I added it at the end of the relevant section and changed your heading level so it fitted there: it seemed the best home for it. PamD 09:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, Pam, and sorry. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:33, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

The Godfather mistake[edit]

Sorry about that. I wanna fix the plot cause you got insult to injury mixed up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.65.21.238 (talk) 22:05, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

No, it is you who mixed it up. Read carefully: my edit summary. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:32, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

"good-faith edits"[edit]

Hello Gareth. As a user of STiki, would you say that it is de rigueur for Stiki-users to be so generous? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 18:26, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

there is something that is called too much gf. Martinevans123 would have liked this, but he prefers walking around in a chador for some reason... Hafspajen (talk) 18:55, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Good morning/mooning PCW & Hpj. Mmm... in this instance, perhaps the bot was confused by the presence of more bots than he can cope with in one exposure. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:49, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Haha, very good! And what do we get if we cross a bot with a wikignome, I wonder...? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 08:31, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
I have always enjoyed hearing the phrase, "... a face like a slapped bottom". See I bet his (Clarkson's) was after this. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:32, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
My favourite is face like a bag of spanners, though I'm not certain if its origins are as an insult about someone's perceived lack of attractiveness, or just a comment on someone looking angry. There's also face like a raccoon chewing a wasp, or perhaps I just made that one up.... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 12:02, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
He does look like a raccoon chewing a wasp... Hafspajen (talk) 23:20, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
[51] Martinevans123 (talk) 10:59, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I say, Cheetah not signing & date stamping!? Driving around in your Reliable Reliant must be affecting your memory.!
You are not wrong, Hpj Cheers! — Buzzard — 10:42, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
... yes, my trusty Reliant Robin!! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:59, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

... but which brother do you mostly resemble? — Buzzard — 11:04, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

... or uncle! Martinevans123 (talk) 11:09, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
... Ha, ha ha! Kushti indeed. — Buzzard — 11:15, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Jewellery[edit]

Thanks for adding that note. Did not know that. How have you been? Onel5969 (talk) 15:48, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Ha, ha! Two nations divided by one language.
Very well, thanks Bil.
Glad to see you are still as enthusiastic as ever.
All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:14, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
@Onel5969: I'm glad that you learned about our ability to add hidden notes from Gareth. Be aware that they don't always solve the problem and you may get erroneous info added in spite of them. OTOH I have been pleasantly surprised just how often they do work. Cheers to you both. MarnetteD | Talk 16:55, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Non-English example text[edit]

Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones. You recently reverted an edit to Active voice with the edit summary, "This is the English Wikipedia". You are, of course, correct that article text as well as titles should be written in English. The text you removed, however, gave examples of active and passive voice in Arabic (and subsequently, examples in Japanese). I have re-added the example text; I also translated the label "Arabic" and transliterated the non-latin scripts. To serve as linguistic illustration, though, the text has to be written in the language it is illustrating. Happy editing, Cnilep (talk) 23:33, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Good morning Cnilep, Thank you for your clarification and assistance. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:08, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Need your valued viewpoint[edit]

Hi. Hate to bug you, but if you have time, I'd like your opinion on something. I recently did the c/e on an article, Sex, Sin, and Blasphemy, which was well written, but in so doing, arrived at the opinion that the article didn't meet WP:NPOV standards. I tagged it and started a discussion HERE. If you have time, I'd love to hear your opinion (and anyone else who's opinions you value). I worry that I'm being too fussy. Cheers. Onel5969 (talk) 13:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Bil, Just been there and saw your latest addition. Would I be correct in thinking you are no longer needing further input? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:30, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Well, not in terms of the discussion I had with the other editor, which ended quite amicably. But I appreciate you getting back to me. Onel5969 (talk) 15:57, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Comment dites-vous le guépard?[edit]

Greetings old friend. Hope you are well. Do you know any IPA pronunciation whiz-kids, I wonder? I was pondering how this guy's name should be pronounced. I bet it's not much like the mangled version we usually hear which is possibly "Foe-Farnah" or something like that!! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:39, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Good afternoon Cheetah
Sorry to be slow getting back to you but I've not doing much here recently since my truancy in April/May.
Cannot help here but how very dare you be rude about Jiffy!
Cheers! — Buzzard — 13:01, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm sure we all need to play "hookey" every now and then! But as if I could ever be accused of cheating! Oh well, never mind. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:22, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Corrections to the Watford page[edit]

I'm at a loss to understand why you have deleted my improvements to the 'Watford' page. From your profile it would appear you are in Wales, so how you feel qualified to comment on the Watford page is beyond me.

> British Waterways no loner exist and their replacement (Canal & River Trust) are based in Milton Keynes. > A planning application was recently produce for the Health Campus and there are no plans for a heliport. There have not been any plans for a heliport for over 10 years and no reference can be provided for any heliport 'plans'. > 'Regular' and 'frequent' mean the same thing, so the latter word is unnecessary. Moreover, the bus also runs from the town centre. You could see this if you bothered to look at an online bus timetable. > The Pump House Theatre is on Local Board Road. Again, a very basic fact that you could have checked via any internet search engine.

I'm sure lots of people add nonsense to wikipedia, but perhaps you should focus on 'correcting' information you are more qualified to understand. 81.108.69.132 (talk) 12:38, 14 June 2014 (UTC)


  • Hm, in this case I say that Gareth Griffith-Jones change was for the better. And Bus Routes 142 and 258 are not encyclopedic knowledge. Hafspajen (talk) 13:14, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
... and no, "regular" and "frequent" don't mean the same thing. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:23, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
First of all, a thank you to the two highly experienced Wikipedia editors, Martinevans123 and Hafspajen, for their involvement. Secondly, I am intending to comment here in spite of the likelihood that you will not return to this thread and we three are wasting our time with you.
Never assume! If you read my User page you will see where I was educated:
Education, both prep school in Langley Road, Watford (from age 8) and public school, Merchant Taylors' School (from age 13) was in England. Both were boarding schools in my day.
I still have relations living in Watford and Bovingdon. My knowledge of the district is sound and up-to-date.
I have attended the Pump House theatre and as Local Board Road is all of 100 yards long, it is absurd for you to insist on adding the full address as it is half way along on the left hand side.
Follow the advice given above! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:32, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Lucky they never went for trolley buses, eh? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:39, 14 June 2014 (UTC) ...and for the serious Watford bus historian and connoisseur: [52]
I like rolling route display, and what are you up to reading eleven-year-old Watford Observers? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:47, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
No sacrifice too great for you, Gareth.... I keep a few handy for those Winter evenings. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:01, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
He used to "bankroll" Watford F.C. but I assume you knew of his Watford/Pinner connections. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:21, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Martin Boy just got a nasty shock ... Hafspajen (talk) 16:34, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
A bit of a monster, it has to be said... Martinevans123 (talk) 16:36, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I don't "get it" ... where/what is the "nasty shock"?
Ah, I suspect this refers to this spilling over onto my Talk page; am I correct, Hpf? — Buzzard — 15:02, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
This... [53]. Now why did I not got pinged?? Hafspajen (talk) 15:38, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
So I deduced correctly [see this above!] ... Hpf, you should have been "notified/pinged" ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:49, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Hm. Was notfying quite a lot of people, and nobody turned up. Try with you, tell me if it works. Hafspajen (talk) 15:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict)So, are you pinged? I pinged you right now. Hafspajen (talk) 15:54, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I was "pinged" immediately.
The IP who started this has not returned, as I suspected. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:00, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Hm. Hafspajen (talk) 16:01, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
And now? Pinged again, using this time {{U|Gareth Griffith-Jones|GGJ}}, your shortening. Hafspajen (talk) 16:04, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
ZZZZZzzzz. But I wasn't...Hafspajen (talk) 16:14, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I was "pinged" ... Hpf? ... what you type after the pipe, if indeed anything, makes no difference to the notifying. As I must go out right now, I shall deal with your request on your Talk tomorrow. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:21, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Well, just checked my notifyings - it is there, but the little box did not turned red. Hafspajen (talk) 16:47, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Another beautiful tune[edit]

Check out this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:21, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

... bewitching theme and entrancingly performed. Thanks! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

GOCE July 2014 newsletter[edit]

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Carter family is/are[edit]

In British English, we refer to musical groups in the plural ("Coldplay are a band"), but does that not apply to a family? Or is it because we are saying they're "a fictional family", which is singular? We're talking about the family as a whole, not the individual members? But we would refer to them as "them" or "they" not "it". I'm a bit confused. –anemoneprojectors– 17:52, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Good morning Anemone Projectors,
Regarding Carter family (EastEnders). To my mind there is no argument: "family" is a single noun, a collective; "the family as a whole" is just that—one item. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:41, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
But "my family are all doctors" would be correct. Other soaps articles mostly use "are", but I looked at some real families on Wikipedia and they either use "is" or different wording that means it's more obvious which one should be used ("The Weston family of Canada and the United Kingdom are prominent businesspeople" [because "they are businesspeople"], "The Bonham Carter family are descendants of John Bonham-Carter" [because "they are decendants"]). So why do we say "It [the Carter family] is a family", not "They [the Carter family] are a family]", but we say "They [Coldplay] are a band"? If we said "The Carters" instead of "The Carter family", we'd use "The Carters are a family", so in my mind, it's the same thing. Finally, I found this from the BBC, which says it does depend "on whether we are thinking of the group as an impersonal unit (in which case we use the singular verb - and relative pronoun which) or as a collection of individuals (in which case we use the plural verb form - and relative pronoun who)". So it's not as clear cut as you think. So when we say "The Carter family is/are a fictional family in EastEnders", are we talking about an impersonal unit or a colleciton of individuals? –anemoneprojectors– 10:19, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
I prefer the former — an impersonal unit. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:01, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
But is it grammatically correct? There is a definitive answer out there somewhere that's not based on personal preference. –anemoneprojectors– 11:07, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind me intruding on this discussion: In standard British English either a singular or plural verb is considered correct in these circumstances. As anemoneprojectors mentions, the verb form tends to be chosen based on whether you see them as a single unit or a group of individuals. In some cases this is clear-cut: I think "the Carter family were arguing about what to have for dinner" is more idiomatic in British English than "the Carter family was arguing". In other cases it's really not clear that one option is better than the other; there really isn't, in other words, a definitive answer out there somewhere as to which is correct. It's worth adding that, even in straightforward cases like "the Carter family was/were arguing", it wouldn't be incorrect per se to use a singular verb, any more than it would be incorrect to call a pavement a sidewalk. It would just be less usual in British English. Garik (talk) 15:00, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, that sort of helps! –anemoneprojectors– 16:27, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
The relevant MOS section is here, by the way. The word family isn't included among the examples, but this certainly applies. Garik (talk) 19:55, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Your "intrusion", Garik, is most welcome, as always! Also, thanks AP — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:37, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
family
is it singular or plural? Copy 'n' paste from MarnetteD Talk page

Hi M,
You know that I always value your opinion—do you have any thoughts on this? See my editing here. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:53, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Oof. This one has me stumped. I would tend to use the singular but I have no idea what would be proper in regards to WP:ENGVAR. Let me ping @Drmargi: and get her thoughts on this. Also I don't know if there would be anything useful here English plurals or not. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful but it is great to hear from you and I hope that you are having a nice summer. Did you see the 37 Days series that I mentioned above? Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 16:34, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I see another editor has replied on my Talk, although we are no nearer a definite answer. At least you and I are of similar opinion. I was impressed with the quality of 37 Days too. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:28, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Did you ping me about this? Sorry! I read it on my iPad, but wanted to reply when I was at my desktop, then darned near forgot. The simple answer, from my understanding, is that it depends on which side of the pond you're on. In American English, it's singular ("My family is…), but in British English, it's plural ("My family are…") as is the case with most collective nouns. On the other hand, in this particular context, family is does sound better. You're really not referring to family in the collective, but as a single unit. Does that help? --Drmargi (talk) 11:39, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks DM for taking the time to add your input. I am glad that you enjoyed 37 Days Gareth. Cheers to you both. MarnetteD|Talk 14:08, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Many thanks for your input, Dr Margi, and interesting that although I am in "the old country", we three are all in accord on this example. Cheers M! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 06:02, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

The Godfather Third Party Opinion[edit]

Hey Gareth,

I've been expanding The Godfather article quite a bit recently and managed to work it up to this, before another editor trimmed a significant portion of it down and replaced it with some of the material that was there before I began the rewrite, the majority of which was unsourced and if sourced it came from the DVD commentary source. Here's his final version: [54]. The main section we're at odds about is the production section, the majority of his edits to the casting section are constructive, in my opinion. I just want a third person's opinion on what should stay and what should go, and I figured you would be a solid person to ask since you have been a consistent contributor and observer of the page. I have the hopes of bringing the article to GA status. Disc Wheel (Talk + Tontributions) 05:58, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Dear Disc Wheel and all my friendly Talk page "stalkers",
Although I have kept a fairly regular eye on Wikipedia articles on my Watchlist since my three-weeks break in April/May, my involvement has been ever-decreasing over the subsequent weeks due to pressing events in my other world.
Consequently, please accept my apology for not interacting since you started editing The Godfather and understand that you therefore have my support—good work and thank you!
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:35, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Gareth[edit]

The Godfather cocktail

Not one hello at Phils page or mine for ages... Hafspajen (talk) 13:58, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello dear friend!
Please read the strand immediately above yours/this one. Not been here much of late. Thank you for this; all the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:55, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
You are reading too many books, maybe? How about us? Hafspajen (talk) 18:03, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Not too many books; just too much demand on my time in my real life ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:25, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
What's the pressure? Hafspajen (talk) 21:03, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
I have edited my previous response [above] in an attempt to be both more easily understood and maintaining privacy. I trust you will understand(?) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:51, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

GOCE July drive and August blitz[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors July 2014 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

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Have fun with the new Doctor[edit]

Hello G. I know you might not see this for a several days (or at all) but I thought I would send best wishes and happy viewing for Peter's first full story as the Doctor. If you take these lyrics and substitute in the line "A new Doctor tonight" I think you get something that works pretty well as a theme song each time we get a regeneration episode. I started hearing it in my head when Chris turned into David. BTW Jon Pertwee was in the London cast of the play that this song is from in 1963 and he also had a small role in the film!! Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 02:50, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Good morning M, Sorry to have been AWOL for many days. I shall explain via another medium. Thanks for the link above ... I shall practise doing that!
I see tonight's episode is listed as being only 45 minutes. I enjoyed the extended first of this series greatly. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks G. As there are twelve episode this series It looks like "Deep Breath" is counting as two normal length eps. On the plus side it is the first time the current series hasn't been broken into two parts. As a longtime devotee of Local Hero when the Doctor yelled "Have you seen this face before" I wanted to shout "Yes!! It was kissing Marina's toes until she spread them and we saw that they were webbed" Heehee. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:15, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


A barnstar for you![edit]

The Barnstar of Good Humor
The Barnstar of Good Humor is awarded to users who consistently lighten the mood, defuse conflicts, and make Wikipedia a better place to be. Hafspajen (talk) 17:22, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, my dear friend. That has made me feel very content. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:03, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Hafspajen (talk) 18:08, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

A woman with a muff[edit]

Martinevans123‎ has said something today about he was hinking about moving to Saint-Louis-du-Ha! Ha! or perhaps Westward Ho! Hafspajen (talk) 12:38, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Martin will never leave Casnewydd. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:47, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Hafspajen (talk) 12:38, 12 October 2014(UTC)
"A woman with a muff."
Isn't that rude!? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:47, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
ÖÖÖöööö .. . rude? Hafspajen (talk) 19:30, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
See this! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:43, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
OOPs. I was thinking about the Welsh hat... File:Hedgehog 2.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 19:57, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Phil had lately run into a little trouble ever since she started working with good articles. She got caught in all kinds of controversies, looks like it is a hot spot for quarrels and much more. Unlike dog articles - that looks like a more severe kind of troubles - and she lost a little bit of an interest, occasionaly - well. Too many people involved, too many weird things going on. Hafspajen (talk) 11:10, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
That is a shame ... I feel sad for her. Thank you for telling me. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:17, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Postscript: I love the juvenile buzzard. Thank you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:21, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Hm, looks like the muff was falling of in favor for the buzzard... Hafspajen (talk) 13:35, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

GOCE October 2014 newsletter[edit]

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Gut Stomp[edit]

Just started this Fantastic stuff.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:56, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

I love it ... great fun! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:22, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Started Bibliography of jazz...♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:15, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Shall watch. Thanks! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:22, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Syfynwy[edit]

Your kindly eye is very welcome and much appreciated. What's your take on hyphens (or not) in Welsh? See Talk:River Syfynwy. Tony Holkham (talk) 12:15, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I have already read that thread.
You and I did discuss this subject of hyphens in Welsh place names once a few months ago. There does not seem to be a conclusive answer, but I am with you on this and prefer to leave them out, e.g. Glanynant.
I am most impressed with the quality of your articles and your output. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:27, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Knighthood[edit]

Knight of Scotland
David I of Scotland is knighting Gareth Griffith-Jones, mounted warrior for bravely and for display of military professionalism and courtesy. David I of Scotland (talk) 13:46, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
I am honoured, your majesty.
I remain your humble servant,— Gareth Griffith-Jones The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred  — 16:11, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

David I (talk) 16:58, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Characters of Casualty[edit]

I'm going to ask you to stop removing Maggie's section (I believe you are doing this by accident), moving Dylan under Ash as it goes in time order and removing sections from Dylan's section. Thank you --#Soaper1234 (talk) 19:18, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

No, it is no accident.
What do you, #Soaper1234, mean exactly by "time order"?
As a consultant Dylan is senior to Ash.
Does this, "Cookson's agency credits showed she reprised her role as Maggie for an episode that will air in 2014", justify inclusion at this stage?
I believe it is too soon.— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:07, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry if I made that unclear, in the order of first appearance. Notice how Charlie goes first, then Ash, then Tess etc, with Honey who most recently appeared at the bottom. Also I think we can safely say that that classes as Maggie returning. Soaper1234 (talk) 13:03, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Lovely Halloween[edit]

Hello Gareth Griffith-Jones, Hafspajen has given you some lovely Halloween gummy bears, to wish you a Happy Halloween! You see, these things promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a gummy bear! Enjoy! Don't eat them all at once! Hafspajen (talk) 14:25, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Is this the work of a "jobsworth"?[edit]

Hi Hpj, Thank you for the Halloween greeting!
In your opinion, is this revision (this addition of a citation needed template) the work of a jobs worth? The term remains in use in the UK, to characterise inflexible employees, petty rule-following and excessive administration.
As you live quite near to the old Finns, could you comment here please.
I believe the template is unnecessary and is the work of a Jobsworth. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:34, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, one could think that it is so -speaking Danish, Norwegian and of course Swedish - - but the Finnish is a real different language, I only can certain - very few words. Yxi kaxi. I think that is one - two. But I can try to find refs. Hafspajen (talk) 13:02, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Found your ref - the bad news is that it is coyvio - before adding ref you must reword the text - one can't use the exact same wording... http://www.syllabify.net/ Hafspajen (talk) 14:44, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Okay.
I shall remove the template.
Thanks! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:49, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
I guess that would be "työpaikkoja arvoinen", lol. But Suomi is a Uralic, so all kinds of odd things are possible. Personally, I'd be intrigued to see a source for that teaching of hyphens. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:00, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi Martin! Nice of you to drop in while passing. Your closing comment is just what I thought when I spotted the edit. Trust you are keeping well! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:09, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I'm very well, thank you. These Finnish swear words might come in handy (.. but not for Scary Halloween Swedes, of course) Martinevans123 (talk) 15:32, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
What the V
I wonder if there is a Finnish Wikipedia?
WTF?This user ALWAYS leaves
an edit summary.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:43, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Who's the guy who doesn't like my jokes? Hafspajen (talk) 15:45, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
That might be Martin. It is not me. How about The Good Soldier Švejk ? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:56, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
No, not Marty - but a guy he socialize with at HIS talk. Hafspajen (talk) 17:00, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Ah, ha! I see that you are observing this ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:36, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Ian Beale[edit]

Hello

I'm afraid even I don't understand this edit to Ian Beale. As far as I know all Ian, Sharon and Nick appeared in the original episode, all 3 are still in the series so why are you only counting Ian and Sharon as original characters? 5 albert square (talk) 13:23, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello 5 albert square!
I did watch the first episode and of course you are correct—Nick made a fleeting appearance. However, he was not part of Holland's and Smith's original vision for EastEnders, and his creation came about as an afterthought. Nick has always been only a semi-regular character with intermittent appearances. It was with this in mind that I made the revision, but I am happy to revert myself. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:55, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi
Thanks for the explanation. I'll pop a hidden comment on the page. It will hopefully help! 5 albert square (talk) 14:05, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:17, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Madonna of the Book (Botticelli)[edit]

Listen, Gareth, will you do me a favour? I added a lot of text to this - Madonna of the Book (Botticelli) - since it was only two lines but you know how well I write ... Could you check a little? It is probably no good. Hafspajen (talk) 17:43, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

I'll be pleased to, but I am on my way out, Hpj, right now, so shall look at your editing tomorrow morning. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:52, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Uh, but I am nominating that today - the picture... people willl read that soon. Hafspajen (talk) 18:02, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Are you back now or still out? Hafspajen (talk) 16:24, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
... back now, Hpj, and will copy-edit it this morning. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, article probably in great mess, you are much needed... Hafspajen (talk) 11:02, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
What do you think of it now? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Where do those quotes that I put into the notes come from? They just magically appear[edit]

Where do those quotes that I put into the notes come from? They just magically appear. If we have a citation, this can be put in using the "efn-ua|" template, in which you put first the quotation, then the full citation. The template uses {{}} at the beginning and end. You use "efn-ua|" template in lieu of the in line citations to ref group upper alpha. Hope that helps. 7&6=thirteen () 14:25, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Stan for your good work on the above. Your quoting, "Where do those quotes that I put into the notes come from? They just magically appear." has me wondering where I read those exact words in the last few days. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:19, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Except for the fact that my plagiarism checker is out of commission, it should be easy to find the source. 7&6=thirteen () 17:27, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
I have never heard of such. Are you kidding? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:35, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Google it. There are free downloads that do that. Some of them only give you limited uses (like maybe 10 times) per month. Some of them do cost money, and I just don't have that much need, so I chose not to expend the funds (some of them had monthly fees, so be careful). They will slog through the web. Give you a report complete with links. Very useful. The one on my computer has disappeared, but it was there before and it was awesome. Very useful when you are doing a check for DYK. When my older son was doing his student teaching, he gave some of his students a very rude surprise. Apparently they were as blissfully ignorant as you were before this chat. 7&6=thirteen () 17:49, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
You never cease to amaze me. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:57, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

They show you what was plagiarized and give you the sources, plus percentages of "original content" etc. Your computer is a lot more than a more efficient legal pad. 7&6=thirteen () 18:07, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

This isn't the check I have been using, but it will give you the flavor. Plagscan. Try it. 7&6=thirteen () 18:13, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

"Hubble bubble toil and toffee" (the noo)[edit]

Rocking with passion at 80[edit]

Good morning Blowers and Martin,
Look out for the closing minutes of Andrew Marr this morning, a little before ten o'clock. John Mayall is performing. He will be 81 on 29 November.
Also, thanks, Martin, for the Nos Calan Gaeaf greeting and the kind words! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:30, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Wow, is he really 81?♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:46, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
He was great! Thanks for the tip. Andrew Marr? Isn't he Johnny's dad?? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:04, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Ha, ha! There is only four years between them.
I thought his performance was superb and—playing before an audience of less than a dozen at that time of day—exceptional. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:33, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Surely not! Johnny has much darker hair and so much more of it! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:22, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
I thought he is a bit of a fathead. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Richard Ansdell - Buzzard with Ptarmigan
That was nice ... I mean the DYK, not the other. Thanks! Hafspajen (talk) 18:03, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Levitated Mass In response to your message to Me[edit]

My name is Danny Johnston I Sold the Rock that is part of Levitated Mass and was wondering why you thought you should remove my name from guest list at the dedication I started with Mike Hiezer in 2005 in search of the "Right Rock" for this now famous Art Project. At that time I was project coordinator and in charge of all Rock sales For Paul Hubbs Construction Co. Inc. Who was the Owner of the Pyrite Quarry which produced the Quarried rock That now sits atop of this Grand Art Sculpture. For Six years I worked With the Artist,Also with Doug Pray, With (LACMA) Michael Govan,John Bowser, 3 different heavy haul contractors and many more. I was invited as a Guest of Honor to the Dedication and to the The Premiere Screening and Reception of The Movie by Doug Pray. I have been interviewed by International News and Art Societies Also The L.A. Times and other Major News Media Across The United States. So if you believe that I had nothing Constructive to do with this Famous and Grand Project then do as you may. But if you care about a Correct account of People and their relevance with this project maybe you will see the reason for a mention to Danny Johnston

Thank You --108.244.250.136 (talk) 21:59, 5 November 2014 (UTC)Daniel Johnston108.244.250.136 (talk) 21:59, 5 November 2014 (UTC) Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). LACMA, L.A. Times, Documentary By Doug Pray

  • This was more than thirteen months ago , for pity's sake. It looked like vandalism as your name appeared thus, DANNY JOHNSTON. I have restored your name as Daniel Johnston. Please leave a note when you read this. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:00, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Kelston toll road[edit]

Hello GGJ, we have a extra ordenary entrepreneur in Somerset, see Kelston toll road. Did I made mistakes in english language? --Hans Haase (talk) 14:01, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Extraordinary indeed! What a great story! Kelston Toll Road is now on my watchlist. Thanks Hans, I shall read it more carefully for any copy-editing over the weekend. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:25, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. I guess I have a case of rude editing here what is you opinion? --Hans Haase (talk) 09:02, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Good afternoon Hans, I have made some adjustments—I hope you approve—and I see you have been busy there earlier today too. I like your addition of the map.
There is something which in my opinion could be left out, I quote, " ... 9.5 miles (15.3 km) southeast of Bristol ..." What do you think?
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:22, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Maybe, not everyone who reads it would know there Kelston is. Bristol is known by many more. --Hans Haase (talk) 15:49, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough, but I thought it made for rather clumsy reading within its position.
With regard to the case of rude editing, I think you have expressed yourself admirably and the IP wants to stick his nose somewhere that does not irritate the likes of you and me. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:57, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes, thank you, I think so. What they did smells like expected to the following interlingual accident in Milton Keynes. The Suburb Furzton in German may occur a missunderstanding, see the translation makes it apper. The extractable joke from it is to wait until April Fools' Day 2014 became 3 minutes old to create the article in the German project and wait for all the deletion requests. --Hans Haase (talk) 21:27, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Ha, ha! Well said! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:39, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you![edit]

Thanks for your encouragement. LW (talk) 21:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
You are most welcome. Good editing! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:32, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

EE: Roxy's marriages[edit]

I added the question marks because we don't know when Sean and Roxy were divorced but we do know that her annulment to Alfie was completed sometime in 2014. 96.238.63.200 (talk) 00:41, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) A date has never been mentioned. As a result, to add a date would be classed as original research and therefore against Wikipedia's policies. Sorry 5 albert square (talk) 01:05, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Then we should put something in its place to show that the marriages ended at a later date. As of now, just having each marriage say "(2008)" and "(2013)" is like saying the marriage legally ended on those dates. 96.238.63.200 (talk) 04:44, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
On the contrary: it tells when the marriage/s ceremony happened.
Thank you friendly tps—you were burning the midnight oil last night. Also may I wish you a great holiday! Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:21, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Hiya![edit]

Just FYI if you come across edits like this can you please raise a report to WP:SPI as a sock of user: Leona campbell? For some unknown reason the editor seems to have a fascination with Mick and Linda Carter, adding characters that don't exist, now it's with the Mitchells haha! --5 albert square (talk) 16:49, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Glengarry Glen Ross[edit]

Hello Gareth!

I have undone your reversion of my inclusion of the city name in the page Glengarry Glen Ross (film), wherein you removed the city in which the film was set as not relevant, for the following reason:

The opening paragraph of the article "Glengarry Glen Ross" mentions prominently the city where the play is set. It reads, "Glengarry Glen Ross is a play by David Mamet that won the Pulitzer Prize in 1984. The play shows parts of two days in the lives of four desperate Chicago real estate agents . . ." Reference to the city has been in the opening paragraph of that article since the stub was created in April 2004, and has survived hundreds of edits.

The reason why it has survived so many edits, I propose, is because the backdrop against which a story is set is a major element in setting the mood of the story and our understanding of the characters. It firmly fixes the narrative within the cultural context of that place.

In any event, the city name is either relevant in both articles (the play and the film), or it is relevant in neither. As many editors have found it to be relevant in the case of the play, I propose that giving the same information in the opening paragraph about the film promotes uniformity of style, if for no other reason. It also facilitates comparison and contrast between the play and the film.

What do you think?

Best! Xanthis (talk) 19:14, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Good evening Xanthis
Thank you for visiting my talk page
I am confused now. My edit removed your addition—"New York"—and I thought it was set in Chicago.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:48, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi Gareth,
Well, the play was set in Chicago; the film was set in N.Y.C.
Best!
Xanthis (talk) 19:42, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you Xanthis—it is confusing but as the play came first, I shall continue to see the film as in Chicago in my mind.
May I wish you a happy Thanksgiving day tomorrow. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:16, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Have some pasta! & Afternoon tea[edit]

You're welcome re "The Godfather!" Tapered (talk) 08:48, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Ehi, molte grazie, il mio nuovo amico!
— Gareth Griffith-Jones The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred  — 09:36, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
Have some tea too
Albert Anker, Still/life Tea service

--Hafspajen (talk) 13:34, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Ciao! Hpj "Tea for two" perhaps (? )
— Gareth Griffith-Jones The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred  — 06:34, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Haha, that is exactly the reference we need at the poor article that was called Afternoon tea, and sadly moved to Tea (meal) nowadays - what a silly title. Hafspajen (talk) 12:26, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
One wonders: Who are these people? and
How do they get away with it?
The whole point of afternoon tea is that it is not a meal in the normal sense of the word. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:14, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
They were Americans. Actually I was playing with the thought to move it back. Hafspajen (talk) 19:52, 2 December 2014 (UTC) I would though rather have some British involved into it who known precisely what is all about. Hafspajen (talk) 20:06, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
I went there to do it and this, "This page is currently protected so that only administrators can move it." came up! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:36, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Hm. Indeed? Well, that's weird. Hafspajen (talk) 18:09, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
I thought so, too. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:02, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Madonna of the Book[edit]

Madonna of the Book (Botticelli) has been nominated for Did You Know
  • Responded a little. Hafspajen (talk) 07:00, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes I read it yesterday, Hpj. Have you seen what Stan added – (below this)? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:02, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Malaguzzi, Silvia; Botticelli, Sandro (2004). Botticelli. Ediz. Inglese (Print). Florence: Giunti. p. 40. ISBN 8809036778. Retrieved 3 November 2014. has more information which could be relevant and which I did not fully mine. Hope that helps. 7&6=thirteen () 18:09, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

For an old chum[edit]

Still Life with Teapot

Oil painting, dating between 1902-06, by the French artist Paul Cézanne. The subject of the painting is a table draped loosely with a patterned cloth on which lie fruit, crockery and a knife. The painting was acquired by the National Museum Wales in 1952 and is on display at the National Museum Cardiff.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:24, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

AH, the good old Cezanne - what a lovely surprise! Hafspajen (talk) 14:59, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 Thought you would like it.— Gareth Griffith-Jones The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred  — 16:26, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
A Cezanne... surprise! always Hafspajen (talk) 16:30, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
You Welsh people have particular hobbies
... and some we can't discuss here. Lovely painting! Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred  — 16:41, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Well, singing around on mountain tops is rather interesting if not a bit eccentric .... Hafspajen (talk) 16:44, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
... well John Martin (19 July 1789 – 17 February 1854) (an English Romantic painter, engraver and illustrator) ... did not think so. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
OK, any time you wish to climb on a mountain top and sing, don't let yourself be bothered by conservative Swedish people, just brush them away ... and do it. Hafspajen (talk) 16:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Pity our lovely lady, north of the border‎‎ isn't enjoying this. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:02, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Sagaciousphil .. where are you? Hafspajen (talk) 17:12, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I was trying to be discreet. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:17, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Sagaciousphil .. where are you? Hafspajen (talk) 17:12, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
She might think Wiki is like Sodom and Gomorrah, or she's up in the mountains singing, too.. Hafspajen (talk) 17:19, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Arr.. Hafspajen (talk) 17:23, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Me Too.... Hafspajen (talk) 16:37, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm here!! Picked up a ghastly infection that knocked me sideways for a few days or so but I'm beginning to get back to things a little bit now. How's things, Gareth? SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:14, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Everything is fine with me. Very saddened to read your news here —a rotten time of the year to be so unwell. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:35, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Always the gentlemen. And even though we don't "talk" all that much anymore, it's nice to know you "still have my 6" (as they say in the air force).Onel5969 (talk) 22:28, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Hiya![edit]

Hiya

In future, when you leave edit summaries, could you please not leave them in CAPS as that comes across as shouting? As you can see, the IP found it a bit harsh.--5 albert square (talk) 23:22, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Good afternoon 5 Albert Square,
I know, and I realised after saVING THAT i MUST HAVE HIT cAPS lOCK by mistake.
I apologise for that and thank you for pointing out my carelessness. Have a great weekend! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:33, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Can anyone tell me how to avoid that? It is extremely irritating. It should be a solution like hitting TWO caps, and stop it work when one just accidentally touch it. It is beside A so it happens a lot. Hafspajen (talk) 14:20, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Exactly! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:05, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

GOCE coordinator elections[edit]

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December 2014 GOCE newsletter[edit]

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Early Merry Christmas![edit]

~ Anastasia [Missionedit] (talk) 00:21, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Anastasia!
Thank you for thinking of me at this time of the year.
We must have been in touch before but I cannot recall the subject. Perhaps you can enlighten me?
All the best!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:01, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
We've met once or so at the GOCE, and I thought I'd wish you a merry Christmas :) ~ Anastasia [Missionedit] (talk) 02:23, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Falcon[edit]

Hafspajen (talk) 09:06, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Hpj, but why two beautiful Henrys? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:57, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Cos it looks good. Hafspajen (talk) 10:03, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict)... and there's me thinking you had made an error — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| —

  • well, it was a mistake, but it looked good. You keep as many you prefer. Hafspajen (talk) 10:06, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Ha! I shall ... these two ... no more, though. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:09, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

  • OK: Unless you prefer Queen Elisabeth instead... Hafspajen (talk) 10:17, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Help! Keep that monster of a woman away from my sight! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:22, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

  • yes Sir, sorry Sir. Hafspajen (talk) 10:34, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

That is chutzpah adding the aitch. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:59, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Always great to learn something new![edit]

Hi G. While tooling around various article I found out that Deck the Halls originated in your part of the world! So fun to learn this. MarnetteD|Talk 00:09, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you and best wishes for your 2015 MarnetteD|Talk 00:09, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Ah, the influence of the Cymry is all over the planet.
Thank you M. for the cheery seasonal greeting. Pob hwyl! — Gareth Griffith-Jones The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred  —  18:29, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Merry[edit]

To you and yours

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 16:07, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

What happened to TheOldJacobite?[edit]

What happened to TheOldJacobite? He's been off-wiki since November 2nd, seemingly without notice. Softlavender (talk) 23:22, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

I had not noticed the ten contributions made on November 2nd, Softlavender — previous contributions were up to 15:44 GMT, January 25, 2014.
I knew at the time that he was retiring and now wonder what sparked that one day of just ten revisions. Let us hope it is an indication that we may enjoy his company again in the New Year. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:24, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Oh, why did he retire, G? Had he explained that to you? That's too bad, and very odd -- it doesn't seem like he left a goodbye or a rationale anywhere. What did he say to you? Thanks for the reply, -- Softlavender (talk) 22:42, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
His frustration with the behaviour of irritating IPs, Softlavender, and not having the time available to devote to WP anymore. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:07, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
That's really too bad. I hope he comes back at some point and just requests semi-protection or pending changes instead of getting frustrated. Anyway, glad to see you are still here. Have a great holiday, and thanks very much for keeping your hand in! Cheers, Softlavender (talk) 09:16, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Hey, Softlavender, I did not expect as prompt a reply as this! Thought you would be asleep at this time over there ... isn't it the middle of your night?
I return your kind wishes. Happy New Year! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:27, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Well, I'm in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, if you can figure that out, and we say Mele Kalikimaka at this time of year. (Actually, we generally don't, that's just mainly made-up nonsense that missionaries foisted upon natives, but it sells and is perpetuated by songs by Bing Crosby.) It's GMT -10 here, which makes it easy to figure out the time in the UK, especially in the wintertime, as we're 11 hours earlier than the UK. Have a good one! Softlavender (talk) 00:20, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes, perfect sense, especially linking it to something I had previously read on your talk.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:38, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Best wishes for a happy holiday season[edit]

Happy Holiday Cheer
Season's Greetings! This message celebrates the holiday season, promotes WikiLove, and hopefully makes your day a little better. Spread the seasonal good cheer by wishing another user an Awesome Holiday and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone with whom you had disagreements in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Share the good feelings! Joys! Hafspajen (talk) 02:03, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

ahem, uhem.. Hafspajen (talk) 18:53, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year[edit]

Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas, blessings and best wishes for 2015!
And, of course, thank you for all your help, guidance and support.
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Nadolig hapus[edit]

DYK for Madonna of the Book[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

GOCE holiday 2014 newsletter[edit]

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Happy Holidays![edit]

Happy Holidays!
Hi, Gareth Griffith-Jones! Have a happy and safe season, and a blessed new year!
Holiday cheers, --Discographer (talk) 18:17, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

?[edit]

UIuuuluu
Wales
Can't belive I am fogotten...Hafspajen (talk) 10:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
I could never forget you, dearest Scandinavian chum. Wishing you the compliments of the season, as we say in my country!
 Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred  — 16:38, 26 December 2014 (UTC)|}

Happy New Year Gareth Griffith-Jones![edit]

Wish you were here

It looks wonderful. I wish I was. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:58, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year Gareth Griffith-Jones![edit]

Thank you and best wishes for the coming year. 7&6=thirteen () 21:16, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

And now...[edit]

Mari Lwyd hapus[edit]

Happy New Year![edit]

Dear Gareth Griffith-Jones,
HAPPY NEW YEAR Hoping 2015 will be a great year for you! Thank you for your contributions!
From a fellow editor,
--FWiW Bzuk (talk)

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Who[edit]

... blends well with its snowy surroundings. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:54, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Who? Hafspajen (talk) 19:47, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Are you trying to sound like a Snowy owl?
Twoo, wooh!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:54, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
WHO the heck killed that woman? Hafspajen (talk) 20:10, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
We have to wait until the 30th anniversary in February. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:57, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
You mean you have no idea who killed Lucy? Hafspajen (talk) 21:25, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Sir Gareth Griffith-Jones
Yes, a good idea—I have a short-list of suspects.
I am intrigued that you even know about the series, let alone Lucy—do you get to watch it with the Snowy owls? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:29, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
I don't now nothin about it. It's your edit summaries that look like this.... Hafspajen (talk) 22:45, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Who Killed Lucy Beale?
Who Killed Lucy Beale?
Who Killed Lucy Beale?
Who Killed Lucy Beale?
Who Killed Lucy Beale?
Who Killed Lucy Beale?
Who Killed Lucy Beale? Hafspajen (talk) 22:47, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Who is spying on whom?
A good double-negative from you—one might think a character from the programme had posted above. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:36, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I SPY: Hafspajen (talk) 02:30, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Here check this out: User:Hafspajen/Frokkost an article we with Phil, wrote/translated on a painting Phil gave me as Wikilove once. Still in sandbox. Hafspajen (talk) 13:47, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Lovely. Is it permissable for you to post it here(?) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:51, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Well, it is a sand-box.... Wikipolice usualy don't mess with those. Thinking about create one with lovely naked girls.... Hafspajen (talk) 13:56, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I mean on my Talk, in this thread. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:59, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Well, I thought you could take final look at it before we put up final refs from translation article and put it in mainspace. Hafspajen (talk) 16:59, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
I have and it is great; go for it! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:32, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
OK. Thank you for checking. Hafspajen (talk) 19:47, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

GOCE 2014 report[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors 2014 Annual Report

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Welsh composer[edit]

Did you know Jenkin's Te Deum? (Going to perform it in a month.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

No, I don't, and I thank you for drawing him to my notice. I must now endeavour to listen to his classical work such as this and Adiemus. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:00, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
I bet you will love The Armed Man, but we couldn't afford it. Gloria is expensive enough. Three choirs, two conductors, - that's how we did Verdi's Requiem also. --Gerda Arendt (tsalk) 20:07, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the link. Just been reading the article; it is "mouth-watering". — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:56, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I didn't realize Gareth was a typically Welsh name[edit]

I didn't realize Gareth was a typically Welsh name, until I viewed this yesterday  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf9Jy9JQgnY. -- Softlavender (talk) 22:34, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Good evening, Softlavender! That is a very amusing clip. Great to hear from you. My given name goes back to King Arthur—one of his Knights of the Round Table—and I even have a page here on Wiki Gareth. It was not a common name back in 1942, but my mother loved it. Now, thanks to Gareth Edwards it is very popular here. All the best, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:47, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Cool info. As you may have guessed, I ran across that video on Martinevans123's page. :) Softlavender (talk) 00:19, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes, dear lady, DYK that Martin is my second-oldest [time, not age!] Wikipedia friend. The oldest being the subject of our recent coversation: he who has, sadly, left our company here, and is much missed. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
...but not as Welsh as Hugh Pugh, of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:24, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
* That was painful. Couldn't finish it. Softlavender (talk) 10:32, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
* Try taking small sips. I started off with Tesco Unleaded and worked my way up to BP Super. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:20, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
* "The stores also have the nickname 'Badamana.'" Because that makes so much sense. Frankly, aside from the Kurdish, Greek, Armenian, Syrian, and you name it issues, this is another reason I try to stay away from Turkish subject matter at present. Softlavender (talk) 00:03, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I don't know, I'm sure Rod is quite safe. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:58, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Ugh, Rod Stewart post-1973. Kill me now. Softlavender (talk) 09:38, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
The Wikipedia is a small place. Perhaps we'd best bombard the old Sweaty with emails, wishing him a belated happy Burns Night. Maybe he would come back for auld lang syne's sake? Softlavender (talk) 10:32, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

オジロワ[edit]

オジロワ

--Hafspajen (talk) 22:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Lovely photograph, Hpj! Strange heiroglyphics Why? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:06, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Japanese file- name ... I guess. Hafspajen (talk) 13:09, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
No, never heard of them... Hafspajen (talk) 15:15, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

RS question[edit]

Dear Gareth, would you mind having a quick look at this please? I'd love a view from a safe pair of hands, if you will pardon the mixed metaphor ... Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 18:02, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Very unlikely, in my "view". Hardly a reliable source on its own. I would not support it. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:32, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks very much! Best wishes DBaK (talk) 12:52, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

February 2015 GOCE newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors February 2015 Newsletter

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A bowl of strawberries for you![edit]

The strawberry fruit (which is not actually a berry) is widely appreciated for its characteristic aroma, bright red color, juicy texture, and sweetness. Hafspajen (talk) 10:13, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
I love them, and are very good for you. Thank you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:15, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Phuuuo. Finally...(someting you like) Hafspajen (talk) 10:16, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
That cake throwing made me nervous. Hafspajen (talk) 10:17, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Ha, ha! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:18, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Valentine Greets!!!

Hello Gareth Griffith-Jones, love is the language of hearts and is the feeling that joins two souls and brings two hearts together in a bond. Taking love to the level of Wikipedia, spread the WikiLove by wishing each other Happy Valentine's Day, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person.
Sending you a heartfelt and warm love on the eve,
Happy editing,
Hafspajen (talk) 10:16, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Valentine Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

You are spoiling me today. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:18, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
But Dharling, it is 14th. Hafspajen (talk) 10:22, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Love is in the air[55] — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:27, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Hm, no article in Love is in the air? Hafspajen (talk) 10:55, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

A complaint about your edits at WP:AN3[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Gareth Griffith-Jones reported by User:88.105.146.18 (Result: ). At first sight, it seems that both you and the IP have broken 3RR. Do you want to respond there? Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:16, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Now get outta my pub! Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:12, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
See [56]. Archived ... having received no comment following excellent support from the interim publican of the Queen Vic.
Next round's on me. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
  • So, no action? Lucky for him who reported you. It was he who broke the rule first, by the way. WP:CIR Hafspajen (talk) 11:35, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Sorted. That slag was havin' a laff! Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 12:02, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I think you'll find that the correct spelling is "larff" and that the "h" in "havin'" is optional. This is an encyclopaedia: please do try to keep standards up. Or you're NEXT, sunshine. Thank you and best wishes DBaK (talk) 12:13, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
You wot me ol' china?! I was too busy working out how to pay for my 3-bed drum in the East End of London, from an income that solely consists of selling three apples a week from my market stall. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 13:46, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Precious again[edit]

buzzard eyes
Thank you, Wikipedian Wales national rugby union team fan, for quality articles on Welsh topics, for being part of the Kindness Campaign, for gnomish work, for reading with buzzard eyes and giving peace a chance, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were the 401st recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you dear Gerda! You are so thoughtful and take the trouble to do so much to make all well in this world. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:57, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Do the math ...[edit]

I must admit that I'd probably prefer to get dragged to AN/I than have to watch that soap you like. I tend to avoid the Queen Vic like the plague. But having been obliged to watch part of "live week", I have to admit that Adam Woodyatt may well be one of our best television actors. (wow that's quite a wall of text over at Ian Beale, isn't it!) Martinevans123 (talk) 11:06, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Ha! When I first read the heading in the ToC, I assumed I had a post from the "disconnected nation that shares our language".
What a pleasant surprise to discover it is you, old friend. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:12, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

GOCE March newsletter[edit]

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Your WikiRoom[edit]

Villa Berg

Hafspajen (talk) 23:18, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

So are you here? Hafspajen (talk) 16:12, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
You may have no cause for concern, good friend.
I have just been easing back from the job lately.
I shall pick it up again soon.
Cheers!
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:18, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Who killed her?[edit]

Who killed her? Hafspajen (talk) 12:27, 27 March 2015 (UTC)8

Hi Hpj! Lucy's 11-year old half-brother Bobby was her murderer. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:00, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Yikes! Hafspajen (talk) 18:27, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Nobody expected that. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:42, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Fearsome bird posted above by my old Scandinavian friend. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:33, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Happy Easter
Happy Easter....  ! Hafspajen (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Good morning Hpj! Today is this amazing man's birthday ... probably one of your heroes (?) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:53, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Absolutely!!! Hafspajen (talk) 09:58, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:19, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
I always thought 28 is such a lovely number... Hafspajen (talk) 10:32, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
On the ball, as always ... thanks, — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:36, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Nice trophies, Gareth. You shot them? 10:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Gareth looks for enemy activity along the hilltops near his home.
Not me! The only shooting I have done is at man-made targets. I achieved Marksman. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:03, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Heh, me too. I feel this is one of my better achivements, winnig in shooting -competitions. Your neibours must live dangerously.-. Hafspajen (talk) 11:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Got to keep them in check! They need to know who is in charge round here! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:13, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Well, Varietas delectat. It is always fun to have new unknown neibours if the old ones don't last long... 11:31, 10 April 2015 (UTC)Hafspajen (talk)
Huh, red link? Varietas delectat > Variety is the spice of life ... Hafspajen (talk) 11:33, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
He (the guy in your Henry Walton) looks suspiciously like the leader of the opposition (Red Ed) to me! Here is another scary bird ... hey! my comrade in arms ... where the hell is the pee shooter just when you want it?! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:49, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
This here is the user giving me trouble... And I wonder why he is decorating his talk with my when he removed the one he gave me... I wish I could go there to remove that from his page, but I can't since he forbid me to contact him. I feel it is unfair that he is using MY barnstar to prove the world what a valuable editor he is; when he removed the barnstar from my talk -the one he gave me, the minute he got mad at me. Hafspajen (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2015 (UTC).
I have removed it, Hpj. It will be interesting to see if there is any reaction, don't you think? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:01, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

The Godfather Locations[edit]

Read please : http://www.scoutingny.com/the-godfather-the-new-york-city-filming-locations-then-and-now/ In this link we can see the complete informations about the locations in the film. I've put the information of location about "The Death of Paulie" but the users have removed my valid contribute , with the official source. 4:12 pm , 13 April 2015‎ . User: 87.15.145.211

The source is not reliable. It is amateurish. It carries no weight. I stand by my reverting your contribution yesterday. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Do not revert my edits again or else I'll report you to Wiki Editors. The previous version was poorly written and inaccurate. PNW Raven (talk)
{TPW) First you will want to read WP:OWN since you cannot tell other editors how to edit. Next see the talk page for the article. The current plot section was agreed upon after numerous discussions. It was not poorly written nor was it inaccurate. Lastly report what you will but be aware of WP:BOOMERANG. MarnetteD|Talk 15:59, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) What does Reporting Someone To Wiki Editors even mean? Do tell. I want to see this - in fact can you please wait a minute while I fetch beer and popcorn? Thanks. Actually, come to think of it, I am a Wiki Editor! Report him to ME. I will deal with him, by golly I will. Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 17:59, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Once again I am indepted to both MarnetteD and DBaK for their excellent contributions here. My best wishes to you both. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:30, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

April 2015 GOCE newsletter[edit]

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Thanks[edit]

Thanks
Thanks. Hafspajen (talk) 13:23, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on Wikipeida[edit]

This is what people like you have done to Wikipedia:

http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/520446/the-decline-of-wikipedia/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gnarfulous (talkcontribs) 20:22, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

I do not know what you mean by "... people like you have done to Wikipedia", but I thank you for the hyperlink. Perhaps you would care to expand. Thanks,
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:22, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
I can only assume it's a sincere and heartfelt "thank you" for all that hard work you've put into entries on Pokemon and female porn stars. Bless. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) ... It's people like GG-J who have made Wikipeida what it is today, the swine! Gah! DBaK (talk) 14:24, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
No response (yet) from the OP who does not bother to sign his/her post.
Cheers and thanks to, Martin and DBaK for their posts and for brightening a wet Monday morning. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:41, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Recent edit to Buckling[edit]

Hello Gareth.

You recently undid an edit I made on the buckling page, citing it as non-constructive. I made the edit I did because I found the initial definition of the variable I was a touch ambiguous (it took me at least half an hour of wiki walking before I was able to understand what was meant). 35.2.21.74 (talk) 13:31, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your post. I have had another look at your edit and have reinstated it. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:44, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Boris Nemtsov[edit]

It should be apartment. Look up flat on wikipedia and you get apartment. Only commonwealth countries use flat and there is more than one definition for that word which makes it potentially confusing whereas apartment does not have a shared meaning. -- Greg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.210.75 (talk) 04:36, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your post. I have had another look at your edit and have reinstated it. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:32, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Oops sorry[edit]

Still new to the talk pages. lol.
Sorry if anything was wrong. I just assumed some things were forgotten since I just finished watching the maze runner and in it Minho ends up killing Gally by throwing his spear at him just as he had pulled the trigger on the gun and Chuck had jumped in front of it. 134.228.199.53 (talk) 08:04, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

No, nothing "wrong". We only want character description here ... not their action. That is why we have the Plot section in these articles. Have another go at it! Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:14, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Regarding the last post here ...[edit]

Removing unsigned drivel in accordance with my notice above ...
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:28, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

You see, I go to bed and when I wake up I seem to have missed all the excitement from my friends on the continent. Onel5969 (talk) 13:27, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
The pleasures are enhanced thanks to the time difference between our nations. Glad to hear from you, Bil. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:37, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

The Doors - The End[edit]

I'm sorry that you felt the comment was not constructive. It seems odd that one part of the article is definitive that the song was released as a single take, while that another part of the article says it is accepted that the song was released as a splice of the two takes. These assertions contradict each other and both have citations to support them, so it did not seem unreasonable to highlight this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.55.155 (talk) 17:19, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your post. I have had another look at your edit and have reinstated it. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:23, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

hi gareth[edit]

hi gareth. Can i know in what way my contribution was not constructive? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.236.82.175 (talk) 11:45, 1 June 2015 (UTC) i am arun from chennai. may i know in what way my contribution was not good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.236.82.175 (talk) 11:53, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

The reference you provided was about the "City Patriots" and about Chennai and did not support the copy in the article, Chennai Rajdhani Express. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:59, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

The article edited was about a train which connects Chennai, the place where I live in and New Delhi, the National Capital of India. I have personally traveled in the train several times. When i went through the article about 10 days ago when i was in New Delhi. I saw a citation required in the page. My friends said they dont use wikipedia data with citation required as it may prove false. So i personally met the driver of the trian and had it confirmed from him and then i used the Government of Tamil Nadu's search engine from office got the link and i posted it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.236.82.175 (talk) 12:06, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for being so diligent but it does not serve as a suitable reference for the text reading that the Chennai Rajdhani Express touches a top speed of 130 km/h in the Delhi-Bhopal section of the route.[citation needed]
Perhaps you could try to find one. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:53, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Best wishes[edit]

Well you missed the drama. While the correct rev/del was performed part of my previous message was to say that I hope that you are well and to offer my best wishes and those sentiments still apply. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 00:26, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

The new morning. Yes, one never knows what is in wait for one. All removed [BLP reasons] about which I read this
My health is good as is yours I trust.
Also best wishes to Bil too, whose contribution to this Talk has sadly also been erased forever ...
All the best to you both! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:14, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Lenovo[edit]

I reverted a couple of changes you made at Lenovo with the comment "revert vandalism." Then I realize that sounds pretty bad! The vandalism was the previous edit, not your two fixups. Sorry for any confusion. Kendall-K1 (talk) 12:46, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Good morning Kendall-K1 (talk), please do not concern yourself! Reading the latest article History page makes that clear to me. Thank you for posting here. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:53, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Night Raven[edit]

Hi I felt calling Night Raven a pulp character might lead one to think he was a creation of the 30's pulp magazines. I made the change to prevent that from happening. If you want to say that he's in the style of or an homage to the "masked avenger" characters of the pulps, then that distinction should be probably be made. That's just what makes sense to me. YMMV, as they say. Thanks for writing. 64.136.202.212 (talk) 01:09, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your post. I have had another look at it and have reinstated your edit. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:53, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Madhya Pradesh[edit]

Hello I am Roshan from Madhya Pradesh and from the area which was previously called Central India Agency. If you look the map of present day Madhya Pradesh and compare it with the old Central India Agency you will realise that it was the western portion of the present state. So I am changing it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.234.72.16 (talk) 07:13, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

But your editing produces three halves!
I have corrected the text accordingly. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:18, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
No problem, peace. - Roshan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.234.72.16 (talk) 08:18, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
... and to you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:18, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

emoneypool[edit]

Hello, I undid you delete for Tanda because the addition of emoneypool is very relevant. It's citing an exact example of how the younger generations that have modernized this money sharing practice. What could be more relevant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.60.87 (talk) 14:33, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

We need an unbiased reference to keep your edit.— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Gareth, Here is proof that this was relevant. http://www.fastcoexist.com/3021918/by-pooling-money-online-this-site-is-helping-people-grow-out-of-poverty. This is an article by fast company that sites our company as having modernized the Tanda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.190.145.152 (talk) 14:52, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Well, find a proper reference and add it to the article, please. Your reference here is no good. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:02, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
How do we resolve this? You haven't replied to my last message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.60.87 (talk) 17:40, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) - Gareth did respond to you. This is blatant promotional on your part (as per your comment above stating that your edits are about "our company", and as such presents a conflict of interest. In addition, currently, you are in violation of the WP:3RR rule. I suggest you stop your disruptive activity. Onel5969 (talk) 17:45, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
It is very relevant. It is the online version of Tandas. How do you argue it's not relevant? You are just deleting for no reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.60.87 (talk) 17:47, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia is a place for finding information, a resource center. How could you rationalize excluding the only online version of Tandas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.60.87 (talk) 17:50, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
That's enough! Read the comment above posted here by another senior editor at 17:45, 5 June 2015 (UTC)! If this continues, you will be blocked again. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 06:55, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

3rd U.S. Infantry[edit]

Hi, I had made the correction to the 3rd U.S. Infantry page because the biography of my great uncle, Charles E. Van Meter, a Sergeant Major, says they were in Montana in 1877 for the Nez Perce War (see Wikipedia page), part of the Indian Wars. http://www.ksgenweb.com/archives/1919ks/v/vanmetce.html Carriage59 (talk) 05:22, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Carriage59 (talk) for your post. I have undone revision 664678262 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard)‎. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:12, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Fresh Prince[edit]

I do think you made a mistake on Carl Robertson & I'd like it if you'd changed it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.55.157 (talk) 15:40, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

And yet the edit added contractions, 67.87.55.157, something you've been warned about repeatedly, yet you continue to try to sneak them in. For that alone I would have reverted you. You begged me not to have you blocked last time you went around inserting contractions, and I held off. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:15, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, BlueMoonset. Also how could one not reject, "They revealed that he was corrupt"?
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:57, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Re: National flag reversion[edit]

Hi there,

I felt the reason for my edit was pretty self-explanatory: the article said that the flag of Paraguay was the only current national flag to have a different reverse than obverse, but the flag of the partially-recognized Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic also has a differing reverse. As such, the article's text was inaccurate, and I sought to correct it (the flag of Transnistria also has a differing reverse; however, it is not recognized by any UN member, so I opted not to include it).

I will hold off on re-editing the article for now in case you still object, but I feel my edits were most definitely constructive and in the best interests of the article's factual accuracy.

Cheers, 162.157.65.13 (talk) 19:22, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your post. I have reverted to revision 665959870 by 162.157.65.13 (talk): See User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones. (TW)) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:04, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Not signed[edit]

I put deceased for Itachi because it was like that on Naruto's page for his parents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.183.144 (talk) 10:04, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your post. Your edit spoilt the Info' box layout. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:42, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Not signed[edit]

hi Griffith , I did'nt understand your meaning . that was the translation of that article in persian. just it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Motaharebastani (talkcontribs) 14:11, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Reply:
I noticed that you have posted content in a language other than English. When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English. Thank you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:31, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Howard Shore[edit]

Hi Gareth - I saw you recently edited Howard Shore, another article Howard Shore (entrepreneur) was created recently (a draft of mine that I submitted through AfC, I have a COI in that I'm a PR and Howard Shore's my client) and I was wondering how to set up a disambiguation page for when people search for that name. Does it require the first article to be renamed to Howard Shore (composer) or can it be done without having to do that? Any advice would be appreciated, many thanks. HOgilvy (talk) 21:10, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Good morning Henry,
One easy way is to head each article (first line) with this template, for example, and on the other, . — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:36, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
I have taken the liberty and added the appropriate templates. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:45, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi Gareth, many thanks that's appreciated. HOgilvy (talk) 18:29, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Operation Sovereign Borders[edit]

Hi,

I started a discussion here: Talk:Operation_Sovereign_Borders#Add_an_image.3F JeremyThomasParker (talk) 05:51, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

The "Stop the boats" image added zero value to the article and is my reason for reverting your posting it. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:26, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

72.49.43.249 (talk)[edit]

Dear Mr. Jones, I just wanted to let you know that I had never made an edit on Horace Mitchell Miner. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.43.249 (talk) 17:15, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Maybe someone else using your IP. Here it is [57] — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

The sighs of whales[edit]

The media will often refer to things as being The Size Of Wales, and this video sees South Wales band 'Gaudy Orde' putting this concept to music. 7&6=thirteen () 17:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I screwed up and mistakenly posted this on your WP:User page. Brain fart. Sorry. 7&6=thirteen () 17:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Oh, Stan, I could never see the appeal of this genre, with the sole exception of The Vipers' Maggie May, which was banned from BBC Radio because of its sexual content, despite the group's attempt to minimise the bawdy content of the lyrics.[1]
On a 78", it was my only skiffle purchase.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:50, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
I thought they needed a video showing cetacean anguish. I liked the pun. 7&6=thirteen () 12:17, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Yes, me too.
I had to look it up ... "aquatic mammal" or "a very large person"! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:10, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
I've seen some of those at the beach. A big hitter/spender/gambler at a casino is in American slang sometimes called a "whale". Perhaps they emit auditory sounds when they lose. 7&6=thirteen () 16:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
a bit like ... aarrrrrggghh. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:10, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Amazing. He seems to have been happier than I was after that game. Daicaregos (talk) 19:18, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for the handy tips![edit]

Hi,

I have been struggling to publish my first post since Dec 2014 so pardon if I missed out on basic courtesy. Am a fan of Uppi2 movie director/actor Upendra and want to pay humble tribute to him by creating a movie page and would like to make it clear there is no WP:COI. Incase you follow South Indian films especially Kannada films would notice they are mainly stubs with hardly any information hence wanted to personally create a page for Uppi2 and cover as much facts possible.

Regards

Gypsz13 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gypsz13 (talkcontribs) 19:37, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Mary Calvi -- oopsies...[edit]

My apologies for accidentally reverting your very appropriate edit on this article. It's not really clear to me how I even managed to do it -- but I assure you it was accidental, and I would have self-reverted if you had not beaten me to it. Cheers, DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 21:14, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for posting here, DoctorJoeE, and please rest assured that we all have been guilty of that. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:25, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

81.111.9.102[edit]

Hello,

The IP recently made an edit on Joy (film) that was unnecessary, consisted of mass changes and appears to be disruptive editing based on the talk page. I am not aware of their situation so I can't file a report on them. I wanted to notify you so you could do, if you felt it was necessary now. Callmemirela {Talk} 18:11, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Good morning Mirela,
I will have a look at the history later, but please tell me why you cannot take appropriate action against an IP editor.
Have a great weekend! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:26, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
OMG, I forgot to answer you after all of my edits. My apologies. To answer your question, I am not aware of the IP's situation and editing as said above. So I wouldn't be the best person to report them. The best I could come up with would be "I am not aware of this IP's contributions, but they've received numerous warnings for their editing. Please check their contributions." Now that sounds like a shitty report. I am more of detailed girl. Callmemirela {Talk} 23:21, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Animated, color-coded map showing the various continents and regions. Depending on the convention and model, some continents may be consolidated or subdivided: for example, Eurasia is most often subdivided into Europe and Asia (red shades), while North and South America are sometimes recognized as one American continent (green shades).

Good morning Mirela,
I shall keep an eye on this miscreant.
It seems that I have been looking for a detailed girl all my life—and at last I have found one. The pity is, she lives on a (different) green colour.
Wales is very green.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:21, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Blumenkorb[edit]

Don't forget to water it!
Blumenkorb
Blumenkorb (Flowerbasket) Hafspajen (talk) 20:33, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Wonderful to find a contribution on this page after so long a gap! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Hpj! Did you mean ...[edit]

"Bloomin' kerb!"?

Driving far too fast — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:37, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

A kerb (British English), or curb (North American English), is the edge where a raised sidewalk (pavement in British English) or road median/central reservation meets a street or other roadway. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:37, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Hm, I am not an expert but I guess it is the same word as korg (basket). https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurv_%28beholder%29 and https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korg... Hafspajen (talk) 10:05, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Though a blooming raised sidewalk is a charming idea.... !Hafspajen (talk) 10:06, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Det å lage til kurver og lignende kalles kurvarbeid eller kurvfletting, som er gammel husflid i en rekke kulturer. (The making of baskets and the like called basketry or wickerwork, which are old crafts in a variety of cultures.) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:09, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Sounds like Bing or Google to me... :) Hafspajen (talk) 11:18, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
I don't understand. What sounds like Bing or Google? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:23, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Your translation... Hafspajen (talk) 11:24, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Ah! Google recognised it as Norwegian. You find it inaccurate? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:29, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
It it quite OK, but it souned like an automated translation. The making of baskets and the like called basketry Hafspajen (talk) 11:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Ha, ha! Stops anyone pretending to be fluent in another language. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Oh, you would only needed to Eglishfy it, it was pretty clear. Hafspajen (talk) 12:08, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Hmm. Eglish is a word. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:16, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Church of St Patrick in Eglish. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:16, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
One shouldn't pretend to be fulent ... (fluent) Hafspajen (talk) 12:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
You are a smasher!
Top Definition (smasher)
smashing

extraordinarily impressive or fine; wonderful
a smashing success

a smashing human being

— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Uh, uhu. Do you know that Phil is upset? Hafspajen (talk) 12:37, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Yep! Lately I have been posting there frequently. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:44, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Sigh. maybe we should put a wikilove on it every second day .... Hafspajen (talk) 13:09, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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Fixed! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:00, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

You recently reverted my changes to the ethereum wiki page[edit]

I recently did a large edit to the ethereum wiki page these included:

-moving information to a correct section -deleting repeated information -removing factual errors -removing outdated references to 'current' goings on -removing links to unaffiliated web pages -removing opinions and text written in the first person -added a section on the projects implementation of smart contracts

If there is anything in particular about the changes made that you think made the page worse please let me know or I will implement the changes I made again.

Thanks

Alterneck (talk) 15:39, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I do apologise, Alterneck (talk). You are correct. I must have hit the wrong key. I have undone my revision. No hard feelings, I trust? Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:50, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

>>The Godfather[edit]

Hello Gareth. Recently you and another user (User:Winkelvi) reverted my edits to the article The Godfather. My reason for excising the words "in the title role" is quite simply that it is wrong. While Marlon Brando may have come off with top billing in the film, the role that he plays is not the character that the film is about. Clearly, the story is about how Michael Corleone shifts in the space of about a decade from the family's youngest son, fresh out of the military and uninterested in the "family business", to a powerful, bloodthirsty, ruthless bastard, the number-one thug in New York, something that he hardly expected. Clearly then, the role played by Al Pacino – even if he didn't get top billing – is the central one. The story is about him, not about how Don Vito gets himself shot and wounded, and then sees his health deteriorate until he drops dead in the garden while playing with his grandson, any more than it is about how Pauly Gatto betrays the Don and winds up getting taken for a ride, as they said in the old gangster films ("Leave the gun – Take the cannoli." — Great line!). I would like to know your reasons for believing that the title The Godfather refers to Don Vito. I reckon the article would be right to say that Marlon Brando was given top billing, but surely the whole story is about how Michael unexpectedly (at least at the outset) succeeded his father. Kelisi (talk) 16:47, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) You need to discuss this on the talk page for the film Kelisi not here. Your statement is mostly WP:POV, WP:OR and WP:SYNTH so you will need to find WP:RS for your claim. MarnetteD|Talk 16:51, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you M. You have saved me the trouble of a lengthy response as I endorse all you say above. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:56, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
I'll communicate with other users as I deem fit, Marnie! Kelisi (talk) 16:59, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Then the change that you are trying to make will continue to be reverted. MarnetteD|Talk 17:03, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Gareth, are you going to hide behind subjectively applied policies or are you going to answer my questions? Why should your point of view be any less WP:POV, WP:OR and WP:SYNTH than mine? Where is your WP:RS for the words "in the title role"? And Marnie, where did I say that I would continue to revert the change? I would put it to you that that speaks volumes about your attitude towards discussion with other users. Kelisi (talk) 17:06, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
You are now moving into WP:HARASS territory. Berating a user on their talk page is not going to change things at the article. Also, Gareth is under no obligation to reply here. The polices are not subjective so you might want to move away from the sophistry as well. MarnetteD|Talk 17:09, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Nonsense. I am merely demanding the discussion that is supposed to take place on Wikipedia. And I was asking for Gareth's thoughts on the matter, by the way. Gareth, why do you believe that those few words are justified? And what do you think about the last sentence in the cast entry for Al Pacino just below them? I mean this: "His [Michael's] evolution from the family's last-born son to its ruthless boss is the main subject matter of the film." Is that WP:POV, WP:OR and WP:SYNTH as well? Does it need a WP:RS too? What do you think? Kelisi (talk) 17:15, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you M. Once again, I have been beaten to the post (!)
Keep your sense of humour, Kelisi, if you have one. Accept the fact that you are not going to change a truth (in both novel and film) however much you bleat on about it. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Gareth, your response is most unsatisfactory. You are now berating me instead of discussing in good faith. The truth, by the way, is a very subjective thing, but on Wikipedia, we are interested in objective facts. Mario Puzo wrote his novel with Michael Corleone as the central character, and despite Hollywood's usual meddling with the novel's plot, that was carried over into the film. Anyway, I can see I'm getting nowhere with you. Oh well.Kelisi (talk) 17:25, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
The problem you have with this issue, is that you are wrong. Nothing will convince me that we are wrong on the article. You cannot argue a satisfactory case for your alternative in my opinion. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:31, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
And the problem you have with this issue is that you can offer nothing beyond a peremptory statement like "you are wrong". How do you expect that to convince me of anything? What is your reasoning? Kelisi (talk) 02:21, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

What are your doing back here harassing Gareth for? Is it because no editors agree with your theory at the talk page for the article? You have received all the answers needed in both venues so it is time for you to move along to other editing. MarnetteD|Talk 02:29, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

What are you doing back here? Gareth can speak for himself – supposedly (he hasn't done so yet). Attempts like that one just now to suppress discussion carry no weight with me. Kelisi (talk) 02:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
A) I posted because you are being a jerk. B) Gareth has spoken for himself when he said "Nothing will convince me that we are wrong on the article." So a normal person would understand that is the end of the discussion. C) Your post was made at 2:21 in the morning where Gareth lives so he is asleep. D) As stated before (perhaps you have forgotten it) Gareth is under no obligation to repond whatsoever. Your best course of action is to WP:DROPTHESTICK because this thread is done. MarnetteD|Talk 03:32, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

wrong historical things is depicted in the lonia wikipedia page .[edit]

Sir,

  Wrong infornmation and refences is given about lonia in the wikipedia page.

It always in upper caste category and also this kind of lead to the riot and voilence and inequality in the area .So kind edit to the right information.

Thank you for your post, User:Abhi.success12 (talk). I shall take a closer look at your article next week as I am very busy right now.
By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date.
The software will replace them with your signature and the date. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:41, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
The Copyeditor's Barnstar is awarded for excellence in correcting spelling, grammar, punctuation, and style issues. Hafspajen (talk) 17:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Well, Hi! I hope you are doing great. Would you like to give a copy-edit to Mary Kom (film)? I want it on the main page on 5 September 2015 and that is only possible, if the prose quality improves. It would be very nice, if you could ce it. I shall be grateful for this. I have given so many days to the article and if won't appear on the main page on its fisrt anniversery, then everything will go in vain (my work; since i worked for that purpose). Please.—Prashant 16:51, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello Prashant!, I have added the film to my Watchlist and will endeavour to begin to copy-edit hopefully at the end of the week, but cannot promise. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:02, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Well, actually I need to nominate it for GA in two days, so that it can be submitted for FAC. The film will completes a year on 5th September.—Prashant 17:43, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps Prashant!, you should have asked me earlier. Sorry not to be able to help you this time. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:49, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your ping. You state exactly how life is, particularly with my own circumstance. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:56, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
No worries friend. Thanks! You can look at it when you are free.—Prashant 05:29, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I am glad you understand. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:31, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

EastEnders[edit]

Hi, I don't want to discourage you from editing EastEnders articles on Wikipedia, so please don't feel you have to stop! Fiction is just written differently to real life - because all the episodes still exist, everything is in perpetual present tense. –anemoneprojectors– 19:10, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Okay, AnemoneProjectors, I admit that I was feeling a little "testy" earlier today. I must remember to follow the advice that I often offer my Wikipedia friends from time to time, and not take matters to heart when someone disagrees with you. All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:46, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Maxime[edit]

Hi,

Thank you for your message.

I don't quite understand. Please can you explain why you think my contribution was not appropriate?

I'm trying to help and contribute, please can you explain exactly what you are looking for.

I don't want to waste my time or yours.

Thanks,

Maxime

Hello Maxime, Your revision destroyed a reference, albeit marked as "dead", as you can see here. It should not be removed until it is replaced or corrected.
By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~). The software will replace them with your signature and the date.
Please leave a note here when you read this.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:38, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

hi, i tried to add a response to your comment about Stephanie on the Boris Johnson page but it doesn't seem to have worked.

I'm concerned that his other children are mentioned despite also not being notable. Arguably, Stephanie is the only one who could be considered notable since she has been widely covered in the press

should have signed the above comment

Abdul tom (talk) 09:38, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Okay. I wonder what caused your difficulty there. You have already posted there. Try again ... remember to indent using the colon key as I have here.
Another thing, please add a sub-heading to this strand using the equals key ... two at the start and two at finish. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:25, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Changes to my entry[edit]

Hi Gareth

I am Keith Christmas, the person about whom the Wikipedia entry is written. It has always been a very nice, full entry (albeit a bit out of date) but I was always happy to leave it alone until I looked at it last week and found half the content had been removed and a whole load of entries added to the first CD ‘Stimulus', unbalancing the whole page.

I have attempted to update it, adding a photo and updating my website URL but I admit I am pretty much baffled by the whole process, so any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

As for things like CD information, track lists etc, can I be registered as the main verifiable source so I can verify my own entries?

Kind regards

Keith Christmas

I thought that I should confirm my belief that one should not edit a Wikipedia article about oneself, so I am notifying an admin for confirmation, before addressing your questions above. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 20:32, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
See WP:AUTO and also WP:COI. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:39, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much Redrose64 for pointing me in the right direction and, thus, confirming my thoughts on the matter. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:55, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Not sure if you had sight of the above. See the History! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:00, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
The edit summary here is consistent with you having clicked "rollback" (that's true WP:ROLLBACK, not Twinkle's imitation). --Redrose64 (talk) 19:38, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for identifying that. Are you able to watch BBC One Wales? This afternoon's Wales versus Ireland match is being shown only on that channel.
Yesterday, I carried out Microsoft's FREE upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. I do hope I won't regret it. Any thoughts?
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:56, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
My aerial points north and I can also get signals off the back of it. In descending order of strength, BBC Oxford, Southampton, Birmingham and if the atmospherics are right, London. But not Wales. I never upgrade Windows if I can help it - new versions are invariably slower, don't work with hardware more than 2 years old, have a different interface that is difficult to get used to, new features that you don't want or need. You also find that the software you've used happily for ten years suddenly doesn't work anymore and no upgrades are available because the company that wrote it got swallowed up by a larger competitor who instantly dropped support.
Thank you for your reply, Red Rose, but I should have asked you beforehand ... ah, well! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:01, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Windows 10This user contributes using Windows 10.
... so far, so good! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:08, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

How are you finding Windows 10 Gareth? Microsoft keeps offering it to me for free, and I'm tempted because I'm currently on Windows 8, which can be annoying (even though I've adjusted it), but I'm wary of signing up to anything with Microsoft because it always seems to want to make one do everything their way. Do you know if it's easy to use a non-Microsoft browser on Windows 10? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 09:06, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello my dear friend!
I am delighted with Windows 10 in conjunction with Firefox. A great improvement on Windows 7.
I stopped using Windows' Internet Explorer at least three & half years ago and I have been using Firefox ever since. Yes, in spite of Red Rose's misgivings, I would recommend the switch. It is faster, less finicky, and more user-friendly.
Which browser are you using? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:35, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
I use Firefox too. It sounds like updating might be a good idea - though I'll first have to check if Windows 10 is compatible with my camera. Do you use a mouse or are you touchscreen? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 11:43, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Neither. Changed from mouse to a touchpad exactly three years ago—now that did take some getting used to! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:47, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm still a mouse-man - I tried someone else's touchscreen but it seemed more fiddly. Is Windows 10 fully mouse-friendly do you know? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 12:02, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
I would have thought that it is bound to be easier than either touchpad or touchscreen ... I could plug in my mouse to find out, if you like. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:17, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes please - if you don't mind taking up an old habit..... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 12:31, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
I spent about two hours yesterday trying to get a touchpad to recognise that when I moved the pointer, I didn't also intend activating whatever it happened to be over. Eventually I gave up and plugged in a borrowed mouse. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:02, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
@ PaleCloudedWhite, I shall, just for you.
@ Redrose64, It drove me mad too. I eventually worked out that using both index fingers suited me—the right for the pad and the left for the "click".
Cheers to you both! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:50, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Good morning PaleCloudedWhite, and Redrose64,
Using my mouse is a joy! No qualms about recommending Windows 10 to both of you.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:35, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Thankyou Gareth for trying it out - does this mean you have become re-moused? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 07:37, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Ha. ha!—geat word—I certainly have, thanks to you! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:41, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Watch What Happens[edit]

Fantastic song [58] as I was just saying to Ritchie333. Deserves its own article, can you help? I just created one for Invitation (song) ‎.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:18, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

As I type this, I am listening to Rosemary Clooney's Invitation. Well done for your creation. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:28, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Now I have Ella Fitzgerald singing Watch what happens. Marvellous! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:30, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
The overall quality for jazz articles are so poor. I think we should aim to get at least some of the top standards like Autumn Leaves, Body and Soul, On Green Dolphin Street, Summertime or Satin Doll or something up to GA status.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Nobody will step up to the plate though and actually improve them though! I think Kaper's other song Green Dolphin Street would be worth the effort. Would be tough to get it to GA though, info about most standards is scratchy. That's why it's so important that wikipedia has comprehensive well written articles on standards!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:52, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Just been playing along to this on my guitar. Superlative.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:30, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
I've been getting into Chet Baker a lot of late, the purity of his tone was unsurpassed. Fantastic musician.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:47, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
What a wonderful track, Alone Together. Bill Evans's piano and Chet Atkins ... great sound. Thanks! My wife gave me the CD Neck and Neck many years ago. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:31, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
I see we have an article which features this track. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:44, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Welsh cakes[edit]

Thank you Hpj — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:43, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
An extra guest? --Hafspajen (talk) 17:08, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Are any left? I love Welsh cakes. Mrs Caregos makes the best ones ever ... but not often enough for me. Daicaregos (talk) 08:42, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Sh'w mae Dai, Mae cwpl ar eich cyfer chi. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:59, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Sh'w mae Gareth. Bendigedig. Rwyf yn edrych ymlaen atyn nhw. Diolch byt. Daicaregos (talk) 09:16, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Ah, those old Welsh specialities, eh? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:22, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
I never get tired watching Gavin & Stacey. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:36, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Ahhhh. Yum. My grandmother used to make these all the time. I don't know what is common, but hers were apple flavored. Simply delicious. Onel5969 TT me 13:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Missamma[edit]

Can you please copy-edit this article for grammar, style, cohesion, tone, or/and spelling? Please do not suggest GOCE as i have two pending requests there and has been adviced by other GOCE members to keep a c/e tag. Please state your intention soon. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 16:01, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Pavanjandhyala. I shall look at it tomorrow as I am just checking messages and have to leave home in a few minutes. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:37, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

A. K. Raju is the amateur detective. The teacher and the detective are not one and the same. They are two different people. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 08:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:52, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Visit the article's talk page for the meaning of Ayurveda. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 08:55, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Can you provide a link please. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:56, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
You can visit the article of Ayurveda at Wikipedia for further references. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 08:58, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Excellent! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:59, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
I did, Mr. Jones. Now, you too watch it. There's something that makes us happy. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 01:34, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Way, hey! Happy, I should say![59] — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 06:42, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Kalidas (film)/archive1[edit]

Thanks for helping Pavanjandhyala with Missamma. The article on the first talking picture in Tamil, Kalidas, is at FAC (nominated by Kailash29792). Feel free to leave comments at its FAC page. Thank you. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:28, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Bye[edit]

Silly Hafspajen will not bother this page any more. Hafspajen (talk) 18:18, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

How else would you describe edits like this? --Redrose64 (talk) 19:18, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't understand how you can keep away from my Talk page, especially when you miss contributions such as these
Bye, bye(?) — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:10, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your thanks! ... maybe it is not bye, bye ... — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:32, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Mentally disturbed[edit]

Then tell me what you think it means. Todd17matt (talk) 02:45, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Todd17matt (talk)
Mentally disturbed is redirected to Mental disorder.
A mental disorder, also called a mental illness, psychological disorder or psychiatric disorder, is mental or behavioral pattern that causes either suffering or a poor ability to function in ordinary life. Many disorders are described. Conditions that are excluded include social norms. Signs and symptoms depend on the specific disorder.
"Emotional disabilities" redirects here too. For other uses, see Emotional disability.
Please do not add copy to a redirect page! [60]
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Denali/McKinley[edit]

Hi, Gareth. You undid my contribution for Alaska because you said it wasn't constructive. However, I disagree. In the article I changed the name of the tallest Alaskan mountain from "Mount McKinley" to "Denali" because, as President Obama had announced just two days ago, the mountain's name has been officially changed to Denali. It's no longer called "Mt. McKinley." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali%E2%80%93Mount_McKinley_naming_dispute#Denali_established_as_official_name) I believe my change to the article was constructive because it's factual and up-to-date. Skeptical Unicorn (talk) 13:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Skeptical Unicorn, for this information and for posting here. I have made the revision here. Please acknowledge to confirm that you are content by leaving a brief note. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for applying the revision. Skeptical Unicorn (talk) 16:12, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Explaining[edit]

I patrolled your page. I went through the enormously-backlogged list of newly-created pages and confirmed that your page was okay: not spam, not an attack page, not a copyright violation, not any of the other reasons for which I would delete someone's page without asking. Then I clicked "patrolled" to remove it from the list of "pages that have not yet been patrolled", and moved on to the next entry. That's all. DS (talk) 17:55, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:41, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

The Sopranos- Dr. Melfi[edit]

I'm sorry, but I don't see what reason you had to undo that change other than that you saw it and just impulsively did so. The fact that Dr. Melfi gets a vicarious thrill out of treating Tony is one of the major plot points of the series. There is no research I can do on the subject, because it is so obvious that no who has felt it necessary to come out and put it in writing. I will, however, point you towards season 2, episode 5, "Big Girls Don't Cry", in which her shrink suggests that she gets a vicarious thrill out of treating Tony, and Melfi herself admits that sometimes the thrill was more direct than vicarious. She then admits she has feelings for him, gets a rush from treating him, and subsequently takes him back as a patient because of it. No more research necessary. I am going to edit the change back, and would appreciate if you would leave it alone. I've been contributing to Wikipedia for years, and the fact that I don't have a username, this is the treatment I get constantly. Please do not blindly revert anymore of my edits. 2601:603:4500:6259:F00B:1B7:F3C4:2705 (talk) 23:19, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

I am pleased that you begin by saying "sorry". That is the only part of your post that I agree with. Read my edit summary, and you should be able to understand why your revision cannot stand. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:38, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
I read it. No original research. That's all it says. Would you care to explain further, or just go ahead and report me for "edit wars" simply because you don't agree with me? I gave you my "original research". The characters say it. I even changed the way I wrote it when I put it back to reflect that "it has been suggested". What else is wrong with this? Can we bring someone else in to mediate? Because as I said, I'm all too familiar with this treatment, I've done nothing wrong, but I feel a block coming from you if thius stays between you and I, simply to keep me from bothering you anymore.2601:603:4500:6259:F00B:1B7:F3C4:2705 (talk) 19:11, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
When I wrote "read my edit summary", I meant, read this:

Wikipedia articles must not contain original research. The phrase "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist. This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources. To demonstrate that you are not adding OR, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented. (This policy of no original research does not apply to talk pages.)

The prohibition against OR means that all material added to articles must be attributable to a reliable, published source, even if not actually attributed. The verifiability policy says that an inline citation to a reliable source must be provided for all quotations, and for anything challenged or likely to be challenged—but a source must exist even for material that is never challenged. For example: the statement "the capital of France is Paris" needs no source, because no one is likely to object to it and we know that sources exist for it. The statement is attributable, even if not attributed.

Despite the need to attribute content to reliable sources, you must not plagiarize them or violate their copyrights. Articles should be written in your own words while substantially retaining the meaning of the source material.

"No original research" (NOR) is one of three core content policies that, along with Neutral point of view and Verifiability, determines the type and quality of material acceptable in articles. Because these policies work in harmony, they should not be interpreted in isolation from one another, and editors should familiarize themselves with all three. For questions about whether any particular edit constitutes original research, see the NOR noticeboard.

— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:07, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
And I got that. But you have not replied back to me with HOW what I wrote is "original research" I pointed you to an exact episode where it is discussed that Melfi gets a vicarious thrill from treating Tony. If that wasn't good enough, I changed my wording to "it has been suggested" because it HAS been suggested. What more reliable source about a TV show can one use than scenes from the TV show itself? Once again, I will ask can you please respond to me as a human being and discuss this, help me to be a better editor if there is something I am missing, rather than robotically send me excerpts of rules that I still obviously fail to see how I have broken? 2601:603:4500:6259:F00B:1B7:F3C4:2705 (talk) 00:41, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
In simple English, you have an opinion that ... ... That is only what you have understood from your viewing the programme. Another viewer could understand it differently. Therefore we cannot include what we feel or believe or think. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 07:33, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

solipsism page[edit]

my edit not constructive? do you think that the word gay with many "a" is relevant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielefrisanco (talkcontribs) 09:10, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) No,I don't think Gareth does really! :) Please have a look at this which explains it all. Cheers DBaK (talk) 09:51, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

List of accolades received by Dookudu[edit]

This, is my first attempt at the FLC. If interested, please leave your comments here. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 08:51, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Pavanjandhyala! Trust you are feeling a lot better now(?)
I think the list article is great and shall give it my support.
Just one thing puzzled me: it is the use of the expression, "encounter specialist". In a Police Detection Unit, for example, the Unit came to be known as the "Encounter Squad" because of its involvement in the encounter killings. It came into prominence in the 1980s and 1990s, when they started dealing with Dawood Ibrahim's D-Company gang, the Arun Gawali gang and the Amar Naik gang. The 'encounter’, was a euphemism for a situation in which a gangster was cornered, asked to surrender, ostensibly attacked the police or tried to escape, and was shot dead in retaliatory action. As the encounters increased, so did the popularity of the "encounter specialist." I should prefer to read or hyperlink to an explanation of the term. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:20, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
If that's the problem, then i shall change it to "police officer". That would make everything easy. Is that okay for you Mr. Jones? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 11:26, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Certainly easier to understand, Pavanjandhyala, providing we do not lose any specific meaning. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:15, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
There is nothing specific as such. In action films, the protagonists who play police officers are mostly found hunting down the criminals. So, i think police officer is a better, easier and simpler term to use. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 17:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for making the change. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:23, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Most welcome, Mr. Jones! Kindly visit the FLC page and help me Thanks for the support. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 17:25, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Anniyan[edit]

I wonder why you deleted this request only three-quarters of an hour after posting it.
Did you get a better offer? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:41, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

@Gareth Griffith-Jones: Oh, so you noticed. Haha, so far no one came to me with an offer I couldn't refuse. I thought you were busy so I deleted that request. I am offering that request again. Do let me know if you would like to copyedit it. Ssven2 Speak 2 me 11:43, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Possibly without your knowing this, you were correct in your assumption: I shall be avoiding any editing for a more than a month (from 18 September to 31 October) because nearly all of my attention will be fixed on this. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:57, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
@Gareth Griffith-Jones: All the best for your endeavours, Mr. Gareth Griffith-Jones. Ssven2 Speak 2 me 12:03, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:07, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

List of accolades received by Dookudu[edit]

This list has been promoted to FL status yesterday and is my first FL success. Thanks for reviewing/commenting/supporting the list's promotion at its FLC. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 01:39, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Excellent news, Pavanjandhyala! Thank you for giving me the great news. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:11, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Message re. Minotaur page[edit]

I had a message notification come up when I most recently accessed a Wikipedia page. I have no Wikipedia account, nor have I edited a page. But it said that you had fixed some edits of mine. I looked at them - the "edits" were really graffiti of the Minotaur page. So thanks for fixing those. But I don't understand why I would get your message about making edits, or how I could even be communicated with, given that I don't have an account. Any suggestions? Should I be worried about people using my IP address to vandalize wikipedia pages? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.254.187.122 (talk) 13:39, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, you should be concerned that someone else is using your IP address without your prior knowledge. If you click on this link you will see from the editing history of Minotaur that the revision/vandalism made from your IP address was made from a mobile phone. The one that follows my reverting "your" edit, IP address 2600:1011:B009:76AA:1009:C805:4399:87BB, comes from a New York location.
You ask me for suggestions ... I would recommend registering. Then you will be protected by having a password and you never know, you may wish to make the occasional, sporadic edit. Of course, you still need to establish who made that edit.
I should appreciate hearing what you think now. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Postscript: this might convince you to register. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:52, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello![edit]

Hey Gareth - nice to see your name pop up on The Godfather page - it's been quite a while since I've seen it! Hope all's well with you. Tvoz/talk 03:37, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello indeed! Can it really be three years since we "spoke"? ... my quick search gives me this thread.
Datestamp: 08:17, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Great to renew contact with you. I am fine but not doing as much on WP nowadays. How about you? All well I trust. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:23, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Haha yes I think it's been that long. All is well, busy. I'm also not doing as much as I used to here, although it comes in waves - when particularly annoying people start messing up articles I've worked hard on, I get more active! And of course with the crazy US presidential roller derby, I'm here more again, but not like I was in 2007. Never a dull moment! Be well - maybe "see" you before another three years pass! Tvoz/talk 20:04, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Good morning! I have noticed that you have been very busy on this lady's article. Also Hillary's—does she have your support? Don't answer that if you would rather not ... I was brought up believing one should never talk politics or religion to friends. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:09, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I've worked on both of those since 2007 - but also Nancy Reagan. Let's just say I like First Ladies, especially if they are running for President?Tvoz/talk 04:12, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Ha, ha! Enough said. Have a great weekend, dear friend! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:04, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Parthi[edit]

Hi Gareth, my name is Parthi and I'm brand new to Wikipedia. On the editing side, that is.

I am a professional scientist who has recently left the university system to start a company and I'd like to help curate the body of scientific knowledge on Wikipedia. My training is in Applied Physics. My interest is in debunking conspiracy theorists who are targeting legitimate science experiments while leaving room for legitimate public criticism of these projects. Do you know anyone who can help me learn to do that?

Regarding the edit that I made without a reference and which you -- I assume rightly -- removed, I was just trying to clarify the definition of a plasma at the end of that paragraph. I took a few graduate-level plasma physics courses in school and I'm fairly confident that my change was more correct. I am slightly less confident that it was relevant to the average reader, but it was definitely relevant to many of my friends for example. I could point the word "plasma" in that sentence to the page on plasma (physics). I could also reference any of the hundreds of plasma physics textbooks that exist. What should one do in this scenario?

Thanks in advance for your feedback. Apologies if my naïve approach to this process steps on any toes.

This is where I hope I understand how this "signature" thing works, -Parthi S, a career exergy conservationist (talk) 06:48, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, Parthi, your signing your post ("signature") & datestamping worked correctly.
As for your request, it would help me to reply if you were to tell me to which revision you refer. You made the edit before registering, so I cannot find it from your contributions. Would you care to tell me? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:32, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Hello there, Parthi. If you are interested in debunking climate change theories on Wikipedia, the best person to talk to is probably William M. Connolley. --Hillbillyholiday talk 10:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks as ever for watching! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I am not a climate scientist and I'm not interested in debunking the theories of people who know more than I do about the subject at hand. Climate scientists already have peer review mechanisms in place to do that better than I can. -Parthi S, a career exergy conservationist (talk) 13:15, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Apologies, for some reason I assumed you were talking about climate change. Still, William knows a lot about pseudoscience-related issues on Wikipedia. Also, Materialscientist is an administrator who might be able to help. Good luck. --14:08, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Certainly nothing here for you to have to apologise, Mike. Rather my thanks to you for closing this matter. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:30, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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Views[edit]

Hey,

I remember doing work with you before on here and seem to found you quite helpful. What are your thoughts of the Skyfall page saying the gross is 1,100 million instead of 1 billion? Three editors claim for it that it was to avoid any confusion from people who use the old billion (million million) in the UK, instead 1,000 million like the US, which the UK adapted 40ish years ago?

There has been a little fight for a while to get it moved back to a billion, just like loads and loads of other pages have it. But currently at a mild standstill due to three editors on one side, and three on another. I am for the change back to a billion in gross, would you be interested in helping being the fourth? I for one, was taught 1,000 million to be a billion, and not a million million. Would be greatly helpful to move discussion from more than a 'talk' but to an actual finalised consensus which can be used, and let that be the end of it.

Let me know!

Charlr6 (talk) 10:56, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

 Done I have become a "fourth", but agree with those who wish to retain "million" and not use "billion". — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:49, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Cheers[edit]

Good afternoon, Gareth. Thank you for your comments over at AN/3rr‎, sage advice as always. I'm s]taying away from that page, the evidence squeaks for itself.. "Camped out"? Except for a few recent edits, I hadn't touched it in over two years!

Oh well, as my nan used to say, "A spoon does not know the taste of soup, nor a learned fool the taste of wisdom." Mind you, she ended up spending her last few years struggling with a 5,000 piece jigsaw, never quite able get the picture of the rooster on the box, and we hadn't the heart to tell her it was conflakes.

Hasta la vista, baby! --Hillbillyholiday talk 13:28, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Ha ha ha! That is very funny. I laughed out loud (the alternative meaning of lol)
your staying away is exactly right and is what I have done whenever I have been reported there. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:23, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Sound sense prevails, he's one of the best admins. Mike, [61].
But then your adversary proceeds to insult him. Hell's teeth! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:10, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Help!!![edit]

How can i delete my wikipedia account? --Blalalala11 (talk) 11:50, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Tell me why you want to. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Cause i want to --Blalalala11 (talk) 11:55, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Blalalala11. Please give a valid reason, otherwise it cannot be deleted. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:59, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I dont want to edit in wikipedia anymore, so i want to delete it --Blalalala11 (talk) 12:02, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

"Get over it!" — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:55, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Screw you! BAN ME IF NOT I WILL CONTINUE TO VANDALISE, YA IDIOTS!!!!! --Blalalala11 (talk) 12:59, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Baku Olympic Stadium page[edit]

Dear Gareth,

I hope you are doing well. Unfortunately I have a lot of problems with page about stadium. I am PR and Media Director of Baku Olympic Stadium, and let me inform you that first of all, name of the stadium is wrong - official registered name is Baku Olympic Stadium. And I want to add a lot of information, but all goes wrong then. So please give me the opportunnity to put this page into right way. Please feel free to contact me jamilia.mehdiyeva@affa.az — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.20.142.190 (talk) 13:43, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I have "undone" my edit, so the article is as you left it. Let me know when you read this post, please. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:48, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.20.142.190 (talk) 13:38, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Great Britain[edit]

I reverted your change because the previous wording was more correct. Five sixths of the island later became the Republic - it was not that five-sixths of the Republic seceded. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:42, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I can understand that. Thank you for pointing it out. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:50, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Recent edit to Glenn Burke[edit]

Hi, no my edit wasn't a mistake. I really really do not like seeing the word "homosexual" used in reference to gay people because of it's history as a term used to pathologize gay people and treat us as diseased and mentally disordered (plus the medical abuse that comes with it being treated as a disorder). It's a word that is hurtful to me and a lot of other gay people. Yes, it's just a small semantic change, but to a lot of gay people it means a lot There's really no reason to refer to a gay or lesbian person as "homosexual" when the words gay and lesbian exist and are preferred by most people. I probably put the source in the wrong place but the one I did list (http://www.glaad.org/reference/style) lists the editorial guidelines of the Associated Press and the New York Times for language pertaining to LGBT people. This source is actually used on Wikipedia's own article on "Terminology of Homosexuality" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminology_of_homosexuality) which discusses how the term is considered derogatory so it should fit Wikipedia's standards.

At any rate it's just a simple semantic change but one that really does make a big difference so I would appreciate it if you retained it, especially given that it doesn't affect any of the content that you've worked on for the article :]

(And sorry if I've made any mistakes, I don't have any experience editing nor do I have much interest in doing a lot of it - I find the formatting too intimidating! One word is all I have enough confidence to touch without being scared I'll throw the whole article out of whack haha) Leesandeul (talk) 12:14, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for visiting my page and giving me your explanation for your revision. Please do not dismiss the idea that you cannot edit Wikipedia. Of course you can.
All the best! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:33, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks from Tony[edit]

Always good to have your input, Gareth (Evan James Williams) - thank you. My mother remembered that when she was a child Williams (he had digs with her parents in Manchester) told her all about splitting the atom - way over her head then, of course, but she never forgot his charisma and enthusiasm. Such a tragedy to die so young. I'm sure he would have been knighted had he lived. Best wishes, Tony Holkham (Talk) 15:31, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

That's a great story Tony. Thanks for sharing it—pity it couldn't be included in your article. Have a great Sunday! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:33, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Minmi NSW[edit]

Hi, I was reading the article about Minmi NSW after just visiting the area. I noticed in the important dates the last entry was 1997 for the birth of Jacob Howard. I am unable to find any information on him. Could you please tell me who he is and why he is significant to the area?

Thank you

Christine Sheppard garyandchrisshep@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.97.37 (talk) 03:32, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Christine, I cannot find to what you are referring here. There is no article titled Minmi NSW. I can see that you live in Australia and understand that the initials stand for New South Wales. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:33, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Tunnel (remake of Bridge)[edit]

Hi, Click on wiki entry for Tunnel (remake of Bridge), and you'll see that the 2nd season is upcoming. So please stop deleting the useful information about 2006 airing ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.154.144.21 (talk) 3:43 pm, Today (UTC+0)

Then you should add a citation. It will be removed until there is a satisfactory reference. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 3:47 pm, Today (UTC+0)
Do you mean the second. Surely it will be the third ...[?] — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:27, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
If I click on Tunnel (remake of Bridge) I get this. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:30, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Why are you adding to The Bridge (Danish/Swedish TV series). You are editing the wrong article. Stop it. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:57, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

7&6=thirteen has smiled at you![edit]

7&6=thirteen () 17:10, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
Sorry for my misleading editing

I am very sorry for my misleading editing

Please forgive me

Brain Programmers BrainProgrammers (talk) 11:28, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Of course, I forgive you. Thank you for the barnstar! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:11, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Please note, also, that we don't put wikilinks in sub-headings. [62] — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:17, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

A cookie for you![edit]

:-)

Ayushman 13:41, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Gareth. I just wanted help on the subject Pallava dynasty. Please add more introduction.I want to copy the same for my school project. Ayushman 13:44, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

I do not seem to have visited the Pallava dynasty article. Are you BrainProgrammers? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 15:33, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

LMA page[edit]

Hi Gareth, I saw you combined the Lebanese Muslim Association page. So it;s been redirected. That's ok, am I also able to edit the Lebanese Muslim Association page because that page you redirected has errors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krystal23L (talkcontribs) 06:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Good morning Krystal23L! Of course you must carry on. Best wishes! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Not signed[edit]

Hello Gareth. I appreciate your concern regarding my recent editing on page Rohru.... however I assure you that the editing done by me highly factual and originating from my personal experiences... I'd appreciate if you could re-edit that page

Thank you Alphacharlie68 for your post on my Talk page. You should read the information on Wikipedia that I have just posted on your Talk page.
In the meantime I have re-instated your unsourced additions to the article, Rohru. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:36, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

For your consideration[edit]

Hi G. The IP hopping toe rag looks like they want to be a pest. You might consider a WP:RFPP for a bit. If you want any of your talk page watchers to ask for it when you are offline let us know. In spite of this I hope that you have a delightful week. MarnetteD|Talk 01:29, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Gosh, yet again all this activity during the night. Thank you M for your attention and concern. Admin Barek has protected my page whilst I was fast asleep, and I am grateful. Also thanks to Winkelvi and Hillbillyholiday for dealing with this Aussie troll
For my part I can only treat their immaturity with the contempt it warrants.
We should direct this creature to this analysis should it return to this subject.
Cheers to all who have "watched"! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:17, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Footnote: How pleasant to have a quiet period after recent nights. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you M for noticing and adding the template. I had been wondering how to make that correction. Hope you are having a great weekend. We are experiencing gales and are promised heavy rain. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 21:16, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Glad to help G. After a week of snow and cold temps it is so nice today that I actually have my windows open to let in the warm(ish) fresh air. I know the season ending Dr Who ep has already aired for you so I am trying to avoid spoilers for the next few hours :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:02, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Speeding...[edit]

...like a Porsche? And I thought you were an MGB man? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 10:34, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Very quick off the mark! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:38, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Haha! An aberration! My forte is usually making sure I don't break any eggs on the way to market! PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 10:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Only the French could conceive such a grand little car ... French: "deux chevaux" i.e. "deux chevaux-vapeur" lit. "two steam horses".
A 1953 technical review in Autocar described "the extraordinary ingenuity of this design, which is undoubtedly the most original since the Model T Ford".[2]
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
I was a bit of a car fan in my early teenage years, in the late 1970s and early 1980s - before cars all started looking the same. I liked quirky and utilitarian cars, like the Renault 4 and Fiat 500. I cut my teeth on an Austin Maxi - nearly drove over a pedestrian while my father was teaching me to drive! My first vehicle was a first generation Fiat Panda and now I drive a Citroen Berlingo van. So, I'm obviously still into utilitarian vehicles.... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 11:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Dominic Strinati, Come on Down?: Popular Media Culture in Post-War Britain, Routledge, 1992, p.305.
  2. ^ Compiled by R.M. Clarke. Citroën 2CV Ultimate Portfolio. p. 13. ISBN 1-85520-426-6.

Bibliotheca ALexandrina Edit[edit]

Dear Sir thank you for your messgae removing the data was a mistake, you can see all this data on the formal website of Bibliotheca ALexandrina: www.bibalex.org lease re-add it. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nehal Ossama Elsoda (talkcontribs) 12:17, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. You are referring to our editing on August 21, 2015. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Bibliotheca Alexandrina, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It was removed but if you wouldd care to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial,— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:55, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Mayabazar[edit]

I've nominated this article for FAC which also happens to be my first attempt. It is also the first Indian Telugu film article to be nominated for such status. If interested, please leave your comments here. All constructive comments are welcomed. Yours sincerely, Pavanjandhyala (talk) 09:12, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

A gentle reminder! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 17:17, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I have looked at it once and shall venture to study it more carefully. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:18, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

A gentle reminder about the FAC, Mr. Jones! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 16:53, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry my friend not to have posted there yet. I can assure you, it has not been forgotten. Promise to attend there very soon. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:58, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 Done 10:38, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Edit to Fact Finding Mission[edit]

At the moment there is no open source information to substantiate my edit, in totality. However, the three new reports are referred to on the following link: https://www.opcw.org/news/article/director-general-circulates-opcw-ffm-reports-to-states-parties/ I will re-edit when I have something more verifiable. Thanks for the feedback. HarveyGardner

— Preceding unsigned comment added by HarveyGardner (talkcontribs) 19:12, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:17, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings[edit]

File:Xmas Ornament.jpg

To You and Yours!

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 04:27, 19 December 2015 (UTC) Thank you! First one of this year. Wishing 1916 will be good for you. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:49, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho[edit]

Make sure to click on both pictures to see them full size Gareth as they will give you a chuckle. May your 2016 be full of joy and special times. MarnetteD|Talk 03:55, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
That is fun. Many thanks for your friendship, M. Wishing you and yours all that you hope for next year! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:05, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks so much to you as well G. MarnetteD|Talk 18:36, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen[edit]

Thank you Martin. Very colourful, even if a little too dark[63]. Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred  — 11:33, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Solstice & Season's greetings[edit]

Merry Christmas and happy New Year
Best wishes to you and your family. 7&6=thirteen () 13:21, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Stan! All the best for you and yours in 2016. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:23, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Best wishes for the holidays...[edit]

Season's Greetings
Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Hafspajen (talk) 11:53, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Wishing 1916 will be good for you too.
"Happy Holiday Season"—Why not say Christmas? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:03, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy Holidays![edit]

Happy Holidays!
Gareth Griffith-Jones! Have a happy and safe season, and a blessed new year!
Holiday cheers, --Discographer (talk) 00:44, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Wishing 1916 will be good for you too. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:03, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

Merry Christmas!!
May you and your family have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help and support, and of course all your work, on Wikipedia!
   – Onel5969 TT me 03:43, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Bil! Wishing 1916 will be good for you too. Always appreciate your kindness. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:03, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

Merry Christmas!!
Hello, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia!
   –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 16:05, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Wishing 1916 will be good for you too. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:10, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Haha ping didn't work but that's probably not a surprise! , Thanks and I hope you have a great 2116 too . –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 16:21, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Ah! I know why: I forgot to sign again ater correcting my first post. You still picked it up though, just as we always used to in the "old days" thanks for the" ping extras". — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:28, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Wishes[edit]

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2016!

Hello Gareth Griffith-Jones, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2016.
Happy editing,
Pavanjandhyala (talk) 17:21, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

What a wonderful message—thank you, my good friend! I wish you all the very best for 2016. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:56, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Love Actually viewing[edit]

Hello Gareth. My annual viewing can bring up little things that I hadn't noticed before. Sometimes they aren't directly related to the storyline. Last years was how nice it was to see Liam Neeson before he became Charles Bronson - I'm thinking Death Wish/Taken there. This year I noticed that there are two actors who have played Dr. Watson in the film. Do you know who they are without reading the article? Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 19:59, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

I should add that one of them is easier to find if you view the deleted scenes as he is only seen briefly in the finished film. MarnetteD|Talk 20:10, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
Two years ago was noticing that one of the "Wisconsin girls" was played by Betty Draper - er I mean January Jones :-) MarnetteD|Talk 20:59, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Oh my word, M! You are now "forcing" me to watch it twice this season. Can never overdo watching it — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:20, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

2015 and beyond[edit]

Thanks for your good wishes, Gareth, and the same to you! It hasn’t ended too well but we…

Tony Holkham (Talk) 17:28, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

I like that!
Thanks Tony, you are an awesome contributor. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:31, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
19:20, January 11, 2016‎ Stefan2 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (30,528 bytes) (+24)‎ . . (Commenting out use(s) of file "File:Carry-On-Regardless.jpg": See WP:NFCC#9. (TW))

Thank you[edit]

Thanks Gareth - that's absolutely beautiful. My very best wishes for 2016 to you also. DBaK (talk) 16:48, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year![edit]

Happy New Year!
Best wishes for a wonderful 2016!---- WV 23:41, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. May 2016 bring you all you wish for. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:58, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year 2016[edit]

We've got you in harness.
Keep up the good work! 7&6=thirteen () 00:48, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
What a clever greeting! Many thanks Stan for your constant support. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:58, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
I don't have many Welsh friends, and thought you deserved something bespoke. 7&6=thirteen () 17:17, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

2016 year of the reader and peace[edit]

2016
peace bell

Thank you for a beautiful image of a new time, - thanks with my review, and the peace bell by Yunshui! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:19, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

That's lovely, dear Gerda! I join you in hoping for peace on Earth. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:58, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Click on bell for the soft sound of peace (and jest) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Gareth Griffith-Jones![edit]

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
Well, thank you, and I wish the same for you. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:16, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy new Year 2016, Gareth Griffith-Jones. Keep contributing. --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 12:29, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

You too, my friend! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:16, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year Gareth[edit]

File:Happy new year! --) (6605281377).jpg Happy New Year
Wishing you good health and happiness in 2016. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 15:36, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your good wishes. May I reciprocate. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:16, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Per Google translate[edit]

This is the message you deleted.

Mandioquin me, Jorge Cardoso. I tried to update my page in English but I see no avail and has lost what I wrote . It is a pity. I do not speak English, so I do not understand the instructions. My web is www.jorgecardoso.net pag . If I can not change and update my own biography , what use Wikipedia ?

That sender needs to be told about WP:COI. 7&6=thirteen () 19:34, 6 January 2016 (UTC) Cordially

Thanks Stan.
For my part, "I can't be bothered," as the young say these days—p'haps they don't in the US—but it makes you wonder what, if any, intelligence such a person has; being unable to converse in English; attempting to edit their own English WP article; trying to confuse matters by having a username different from their actual name; posting here in whatever language that was, and not leaving any linking. Argh! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:25, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
PS I have posted warnings on not using English and conflict of interest on their User talk. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:44, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
I agree. You told them. Trying to edit the English wikipedia when you can't read English is an exercise in futility. And editing your own article is a no. 7&6=thirteen () 12:21, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

I have nominated the recapture of El Chapo at ITN.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:33, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. Can you provide a link to ITN please? No need , I've found it.— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:57, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Mayabazar[edit]

Mayabazar turns a FA! Thanks for your contribution as a reviewer. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 02:46, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Well done Pavanjandhyala! Excellent news. Congratulations! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:04, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Mr. Jones. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 12:06, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

who benefits when an editor removes verifiable facts produced by original research?[edit]

Hi, Gareth,

You recently rescinded an edit I did (as my IP address; I simply forgot to log in) to the page about the Apple Messages OS X app. My edit was a single sentence noting that Apple removed a feature in the Yosemite version of the app.

I understand that your rescinding it was not improper, because the fact that I added, while accurate and verifiable, was the result of original research. (The fact may be easily verified by comparing the menu selections available on a machine running an earlier version of the app with those available on the Yosemite version).

My question to you is, does it actually benefit anyone to remove a verifiable fact _solely_ because it is original research?

I would have cited a source if it existed, but the problem here is that Apple (and software companies more generally) would seem to be the only reliable source that one could cite for a feature-removal fact, and software companies generally don't explicitly state that they've removed features. I looked at Apple's relevant documentation, and what they've done is simply removed mention of the feature.

I *could* cite mentions on Apple chat-boards of the disappearance of the feature, but it seems to me those are just third party original research.

Thanks, Soargain (talk) 16:05, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello Soargain,
How is one to know?
Is it genuine ... well-intentioned?
Is it malicious ... vandalism?
Good editing! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:09, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Huw Edwards (journalist)[edit]

Hi Gareth. I see you reverted an edit to this article which said he has two children; the ref does say that (last para). I didn't want to revert you in case I have missed something. Cheers, Tony Holkham (Talk) 22:05, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

I made the revision as we prefer not to provide information on a living person's family unless the article cries out for it [64]. This is not "set in stone" but it does seem sensible to me. Thanks for querying it. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:51, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Gareth. I've read the guidelines you linked and find I agree with them broadly. Still more to discover! Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:11, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Cheers! Hope you have a restful Sunday. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:15, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Ta. You too. I may spend the day rewriting Flanders & Swann's A song of the weather... Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:22, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Ha, ha! One of my first LPs is #Recordings. All tracks are wonderfully funny and brilliantly original. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:28, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Did you know that Michael Mates and William Godfree do a tribute act for charity? [65] I keep trying to see them, but always wrong place, wrong time. Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:38, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
How interesting! These old Tory MPs. He's 81. Thank you for that! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:51, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Hiya guys. I read the BLP policy as saying that family members' names shouldn't be added unless including their names would add the the readers' understanding of the subject (WP:BLPNAME). I would not see noting that he has children to be a problem. Have I mis-read this? Daicaregos (talk) 11:54, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Diolch yn fawr, Dai! You are, of course correct that it does not present a specific problem here, but does it need to be added?
Surely privacy should be preserved as much as is reasonable? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |[[User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones|Huw's NewsContributing editor| — 12:12, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
It's a borderline edit, and I don't have strong feelings about this particular one either way, but perhaps the best thing to do is welcome the IP who made the original edit and explain that things in WP are never pure and rarely simple? I'll do that today. Tony Holkham (Talk) 12:16, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Tony. They are based in Singapore and the Huw Edwards revision is their only edit. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:24, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
I see the person who reinstated this edit is in the UK and has asked a question here. Who knew how this would unfold? Tony Holkham (Talk) 12:51, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
And they seems to have been very well replied to. Don't feel I need to add anything there, having made the starting drop-kick. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:00, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Croeso. Children change you. He has mentioned them in public. Daicaregos (talk) 13:05, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Dai. I read it—your first full version. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:33, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Then you must forget every word until it is referenced. Daicaregos (talk) 13:43, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Gareth, you should not have mentioned drop kicks with that annual event just around the corner, where I have the annual dilemma of who to support. England may have muscle, but Wales have the magic. And as a pointless aside, my maths teacher and rugby coach at school was Barry John, but sadly not that Barry John. Tony Holkham (Talk) 13:13, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Tony. I think you should regard yourself as an honory Welshman considering how hard you work on your county. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:33, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Diolch yn fawr; I graciously accept. Tony Holkham (Talk) 13:39, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
And quite right too. Daicaregos (talk) 13:44, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Gareth. It seems he has five! "Huw knew"!! (... and his wife too, I'd guess). Martinevans123 (talk) 14:40, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

One hundred and eighty! Yes, I found out earlier today that he has five. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:32, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Huw knew that a rose is a thorn by any other name. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:14, 25 January 2016 (UTC)>

p.s. and this is the song which means most to him, he says. "Y Tangnefeddwyr" translates as "The Peacemakers": [66]

Wonderfully uplifting. Thank you Martin for posting the link here. I am enjoying it so much. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:32, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

The Big Short (film)[edit]

Hello Gareth
Thanks for trying to keep order on this cast section issue; a bit like herding cats! Anyway I have had a bash at resolving it, and have removed the edit note and suspension; I hope you are OK about that. I've also deleted the suspended section on the book page; there didn't seem much point in maintaining a separate list over there as well. I trust that's OK too. Regards, User:Swanny18 (talk) 23:47, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Good morning Swanny
Welcome to my page!
That seems fine for now. Thank you for both articles. All the best, 10:17, 27 January 2016 (UTC)— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:40, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Scent hound[edit]

Your proposal there last year is gathering speed after ten months.
What do we do now? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:04, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Just merge it over. There's no opposition, and even a month is long enough to wait. I'd forgotten all about that.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  11:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Ha, ha! Thought you had. Thanks for your full reply over there. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:14, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Glad you jogged my memory about this. It reminds me that Category:Dogs needs a great deal of WP:RM cleanup work.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  18:50, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Okay. I'll have a look .— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 9:04 am, Today (UTC+0)
If you see User:SMcCandlish/Organism names on Wikipedia#Capitalization (and disambiguation) of breeds and cultivars, you'll get an idea what an uphill climb it has been trying to get even basic consistency and sensibility in the names of animal breed articles. In about two years' worth of RM discussions, some subjected to organized WP:TAGTEAM opposition, I've been successful in cleaning up most of that mess and bringing some order to the chaos. Category:Dog breeds is the last hold-out. I've been waiting before trying to bring those articles under the unbrella, because the most concerted (and "how dare you"-attitude) push-back I received was from the dogs wikiproject early on. It made more sense to organize the other material first and use piles of RM precedent and a WP:CONSISTENCY argument to resolve the no-rhyme-or-reason naming of dog breed articles. And that's just the breeds. There's also these breed group articles, some of which are about breed groups recognized in the general caninology literature (either on the basis of genetics, or of human utilization of specific breeds), while others are specific to certain organizations and don't really align with the broader categorizations. I think per WP:NOTDICT, WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE and WP:N we do not need articles on AKC's (etc.) labels, most especially those that don't correspond to anything more real than their own internal sorting system for dog shows and breeding programs. After at least most of the dog breeds mess is cleaned up, I want to draft a WP:Naming conventions (breeds) to cement these years of RM decisions into an actual guideline.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  09:23, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
This is a great help. Thank you. I am copying this to my Talk for future reference. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:28, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
It may be instructive to skim those old RMs. You'll see a familiar opponent in virtually all of them, and the central theme of all the arguments: consistency must be resisted, just because, and cherry-picking sources to get to a different name, even a foreign one, to thwart consistency, is a valid approach; this is necessary because wikiprojects having total authority to make up their own conflicting rules is super-duper-important, no one who didn't already work on an article a lot has any business changing it, and WP:MOS/WP:AT just need to die. If I may caricature the reasoning a little. Of the triumvirate opposing all these moves, one disappeared (the pigeon guy), and one changed their mind (the horse editor, whom I'd quoted in the first Twentse Landgans RM), leaving just the one. None of them are the dog editors; that was a different set of opposition early on, mostly triggered by a Billy (dog)Billy dog move. That still needs to be done, because "Billy (dog)" indicates an individual dog named Billy, and as the quoted horse editor pointed out, it's WP:NATURAL English to add the species name after the breed name even among breeders any time they need to qualify. No dog person would ever say something as cryptic and confusing as "I have a Billy" to someone not already fairly certain to know they meant a dog breed by that name (unless they were intentionally trying to be a snooty ass). They'd either say "I have a Billy dog" or perhaps "My dog is a Billy" (still ambiguous; "I don't have a dog, by my wife is a Janet"), or at worst "I have a a Billy-breed dog", if they were going out of their way to just avoid speaking plain English for some reason. Similar resistance was met against "Akita dog". I wasn't even aware that needed to be disambiguated, but whatever. If one had to disambiguate in person, one would still say "Akita dog".  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  10:52, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Good job on the merge. I guess the next obvious one would be Hound GroupHound, which is straightforward, and then Sighthound & Pariah GroupSighthound (Pariah_dog#Breed groups in kennel clubs is probably already adequate but could use a once-over). — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  11:02, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. I enjoyed the task. Plenty to do. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:38, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Yesterday you wrote, "Good job on the merge. I guess the next obvious one would be Hound Group → Hound ..."
Completed task for your approval.
Talking about "Billy", how about this:
--Animals--

Should be Maltese dog and Maltese goat, per WP:NATURAL. Actually, Maltese (goat) is just a redirect; the article's already at Maltese goat.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  13:28, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
I know. I have edited the disambig. page. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:27, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Here're two other obvious ones: Toy Grouptoy dog, and Companion Groupcompanion dog, with conforming copy edits (e.g. "The Maltese [malˈteːse] is a small breed of dog classified in the "toy dog" group by various kennel clubs ..." I've already done some copy editing at toy dog. The WP:SSF over-capitalization has been rampant all over these articles (going far beyond this I keep finding breed group sections, coat colours, etc., all capitalized). Things are not capitalized as proper nouns except in the specific context in which they are such (AKC's "Toy Group" is a proper noun in AKC, when discussing the group as a discrete entity, but two things called "Toy Group" in 2 clubs are "toy groups" as a plural common noun, for the same reason Oxford University and the University of California are "universities" not "Universities". Even when discussing a specific organization's terminology, it's annoyingly browbeating to keep doing things like "classified in AKC's Toy Group", when "classified in AKC's Toy group" will suffice. When discussing terminological conflicts (i.e. words as words, we can use italics or quotation marks to make this clear: "The AKC's Toy group is a subset of the international Toy and Companion classification (FCI's Group 6)", etc.

The only time something like a coat colour or other feature should be capitalized is when it's a formal competition category, and in that exact context "2015 photo of Moppins Wündercat III (a seal-point Himalayan), three-time TICA Grand Champion (Colorpoint Division)" – "Colorpoint" could be capitalized there, but would be lower-case otherwise, e.g. "both TICA and CFA, but not FIFe, have competitive divisions for color-point breeds; FIFe has separate divisions for different breeds including the Siamese and Himalayan", etc. [I'm just making up these details; I have no memorized which fancier orgs. do what.] In keeping with your recent edits, I agree that things like "scent hound" should not be fully compounded except in the case of proper names ("AKC's Scenthound group does not entirely correspond with the similar groups in two other clubs ...)". Basically, we should be using plain English when possible - colo[u]r-point, not "Colorpoint", long-haired not "Longhair", but without falisfying proper names (TICA has a "Domestic Shorthair" competition category for mixed-breed, short-haired cats; there is no "Domestic Shorthair" breed, and such cats should generally be refrred to as "domestic short-haired cats", not "Domestic Shorthairs"; it's only a proper name as a competition category in a particular organization's events). Anyway, the general principle is covered at MOS:CAPS: when in doubt, do not capitalise, and don't do so for emphasis (which is what all this "we capitalize everything important to our special interest" behaviour is). Also at MOS:LIFE: Do not capitalize terms for general groupings of organisms. It does not address formal, standardized breeds direct (by design – there's been a controversy about that for years, and it will need to be settled by RfC), and it includes a dog type/group example on purpose to indicate that we should not capitalize them. No one seems to be noticing, so I've attempted to address this more specifically at the MOS:ORGANISMS draft (the expanded version of MOS:LIFE we've been working on for a long time, but which has been held up because of the breeds dispute).  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  07:49, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Duly read and copied. Many thanks! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:58, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Re: Italian Greyhound[edit]

Thanks for your contributions to this article. I don't have the capacity to take on the project right now, but I do hope to see the article promoted to Good status in the future. Keep up the great work! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:57, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for that. Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 22:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

English Pointer's coat[edit]

As I explained in my edit to that page, if the headlines is about the dog's coat and colour then it must speak about their coat and colour, not just about their colour. This is being constructive, if someone knows the breed standards for their coat and their ocassional divergences, they must edit to add such data, until that the entry only informs about colour. Let's do not begin an edit war over such a simple issue.201.230.248.219 08:23, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, I have added, "The coat of a Pointer is short, dense, smooth with a sheen.[1] They are generally white with either liver, lemon, orange or black markings. Although pointers may have solid coloring in any of these hues, most pointers are primarily white with some body markings." — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  08:29, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Pointer breed standard, American Kennel Club, archived from the original on 12 September 2014, retrieved 12 September 2014 {{citation}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

Great, that is better. I am and come and go wikipedia editor (the consequences of being a heavy wikipedia user precisely 'cause I lack time to do more thorough research) who edits based on his common sense and knowledge (which I pride myself to be quite large) but I am posting this from a friend's computer because I've forgotten my account's password (it usually enters on its own thanks to computer-memory), so I do know a thing or two about the edits. Thanks for adding to the page, now it does makes sense to say "coat and colour".201.230.248.219 (talk) 08:45, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Well that's good! Do you live in Peru?
Why don't you add your Username here, please? — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  08:49, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Worth remembering ...[edit]

Whew[edit]

As I watched the first half hour I was afraid that the Irish might run away and hide so the comeback was encouraging. I know I only get to see a few of their matches but I am trying to remember the last time I saw them play without several of their best players being injured. The short week doesn't allow much time for healing but I wish them the best. Of course there is some euphoria here as the Broncos were given little to no chance by the pundits. That makes their win all the sweeter :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 05:33, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

M, I have replied to this by email. Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  14:20, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks G. I appreciate the info. Still cloud nine time here. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 15:02, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
I have been reading the Denver Broncos article, M, but I cannot find anything about their win this weekend. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  17:38, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Looks like there is a brief mention in the lede and another in the 2015 section but the main info is here Super Bowl 50. To be honest I don't have their article on my watchlist - as a lifelong fan I know that I would have problems being objective in editing that page. To be fair this season offense was below average but the defense overwhelmed teams and can be in the conversation (which can always turn into arguments if too many pints are involved - heehee) as one of the best ever. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for this. Are you Denver born 'n' bred? — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  19:46, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Email on the way G. MarnetteD|Talk 20:27, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
That was more like it G. They changed the broadcast schedule and we are getting the England v Italy live so I gotta hit the feathers so I can be up in time. Enjoy your Sunday!!!
Oh! Scotland played so well. It was a close finish. A thrilling game.
M Great to think we will be watching today at exactly the same time. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:21, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

No matches this coming weekend
After that packed weekend, M, we have no matches until
Friday, 26 February—Wales v France (Principality Stadium, 20:05 GMT)
Saturday, 12 March—England v Wales (Twickenham, 16:00 GMT)
Saturday, 19 March—Wales v Italy (Principality Stadium, 14:30 GMT)
All the best! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:03, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for this G. There isn't any info from the cable station showing these about whether they will be live or tape delayed yet. It is looking like the England match may be the one to decide things. I'm looking forward to it. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 15:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
M – [67] — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  19:00, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks G. An interesting read. I wonder if he will want to go into coaching/managing when his playing career is over. MarnetteD|Talk 19:23, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

A problem IP[edit]

Massive vandalism for many days. Does this by adding incremental misinformation. Attacked dozens of dog articles, particularly. I've been reverting but this shit has gone on unchecked and only barely warned. Really insidious. You reverted some of his edits, but didn't issue warnings. Thought you should know about this. 7&6=thirteen () 03:35, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh I know about this creature.
Thanks Stan, but Philie John is well known to us on this side of "the pond" ...
... this is the "Please accept", block-evading, IP-hopping, dog-article-fiddler.
Here are just a few of the IPs he has been using over recent days:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.29.124
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/108.52.17.183
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.29.84
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/108.52.17.183
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.29.159
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.28.45
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.28.110
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.29.111
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.29.17
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.87.82.26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.29.227
They all geolocate to Philadelphia.
We have nicknamed him, Young John.
It is a complete waste of one's time to issue warnings. I hit the proper, true Rollback This produces his contribs. and I hit the next one, etcetera. He gets a block and moves on to another IP address.
I keep on adding dog articles to my Watchlist. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:30, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
I reported him to WP:AIV and got him blocked. I espcially hate this kind of vandal. I watch a lot of dog articles, and I also looked at his "contribution" list. 7&6=thirteen () 11:54, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
And now back on IP:172.56.29.159. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  21:09, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Good catch! 7&6=thirteen () 21:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
My motto: Shoot 'em dead! ASK questions afterwards! Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  21:32, 9 February 2016 (UTC) Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for evading a previous block. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard | 
One could quibble with the 72 hours part. But this fellow could (and probably will) be back in minutes. It's whack-a-mole time. 7&6=thirteen () 21:47, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

::**Clarification—Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Whac-A-Mole — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  21:47, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

"Philie John" is back this evening, editing on IP:172.56.28.45 — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  21:32, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

and again last night,Soft Lavender, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.28.110 & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.29.111— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:15, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi Gareth, please don't ping me -- I'm not an admin and I'm not involved in this round-up (other than trying to convince people to compile all the evidence in one place such as the SPI). Ping an admin who is working on the case, or add the IPs and named accounts to the SPI yourself. Thanks. Softlavender (talk) 10:46, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Apologies, Soft Lavender. I only did so here ... not at Drmies' Talk. Thought you would have wanted to know. All the best for a great weekend—Six Nations — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:56, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
And here again last night on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.29.17 — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:41, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Just goes on and on; yesterday I reverted these edits from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.87.82.26. Different looking but still it Geolocates to Philadelphia — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:00, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
And this last night, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.29.227 — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:17, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Dydd Gwyl Dewi Sant Hapus![edit]

Some leeks for you!
Dydd Gwyl Dewi Sant Hapus! (Happy St. David's Day!) Here are some leeks to celebrate. :-) Ches (talk) 08:55, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I love eating leeks. Thank you very much! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:00, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

And likewise. No problem :-) --Ches (talk) 16:24, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Welsh cakes
While I prefer (my Grandmother used to make delicious apple crempogs - and I still do from time to time). Hope you're having a great day! Onel5969 TT me 12:27, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Flag of Saint David

Thank you, Bil. A great welcome back to my pc waiting for me here. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  15:07, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Some Ecuadorian wiki-leeks for you!
Dydd Gwyl Dewi Sant Hapus! (and Happy Saint Julian’s Day also)! "Oh, Mr Ambassador you are spoiling us!"
Martinevans123 (talk) 14:17, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

You are spoiling me, Martin. All the best! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  15:07, 1 March 2016 (UTC)


Acer saccharum
I meant to return here yesterday, Bil, and tell you that what my mother used to refer to as "pancakes", were actually crempogs.
Both she and her mother used to make them for me—and I do occasionally—although I use unsalted butter these days(!)
— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  12:50, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, my Grandmother never called them cremogs either, instead referring to them as fritters (apple fritters, specifically)! Onel5969 TT me 12:33, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
I am a devotee of maple syrup. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  16:36, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon[edit]

Hi Gareth, hope you're well. Can I interest you in participating in this? Even if contests/editathons aren't your thing and you were dubious about past ones you're welcome to contribute. The focus (unlike previous ones) is on the core articles and quality. Anything you can contribute betwene now and end of April will be much appreciated. Page stalkers too! I've been drawing up a core article list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Core articles. Something might interest you. Also aiming to get a lot of the missing listed buildings started.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:24, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me about this although I had read this when you posted it.
My problem is that I have pretty well given up all my available Wikipedia-time to caretaking the numerous dog aticles, since "SP" retired from editing.
It would be difficult to devote any more time than I do at present.
I commend you for starting this and wish you all the best! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  16:54, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
No worries. Perhaps there are some Welsh dogs worth doing though?♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:57, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
I shall keep a lookout for any. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  16:59, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Wishes[edit]

Happy Maha Shivaratri!
Wishing you, your family, and your dear ones a very happy Maha Shivaratri! Keep yourself very happy and joyful, away from sorrows and worries in this moment, something which Nataraja teaches!

PS: I don't know whether you are aware of this festival or not, but i'm sure you will be happy with this gesture of WikiLove. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 17:34, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

I was not aware and I thank you for expanding my knowledge.
May the almighty Lord Shiva bless you all with good things and perfect health. Happy Maha Shivaratri. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  17:43, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
You're welcome, Mr. Jones! May Lord Shiva bless you too with the same! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 17:45, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

The excitement is palpable[edit]

Hi G. Finally the two weeks are almost done and we can get to the match! Our station is airing the match at 9pm tomorrow night so I may have to take a nap in the afternoon :-| zzzzzzz. Just kidding. Best wishes to the team and all of their fans!! MarnetteD|Talk 18:50, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Can hardly stand the wait M—4:00 pm here. Expecting a great contest late afternoon/earlyevening tomorrow. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  18:55, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Re: Anthropolgy series on my favourite radio station[edit]

Oh, I was able to access those e-broadcasts, from a US IP address. Thanks for the pointer. (In archiving old talk page threads, I noticed that I'd neglected to respond to your original note.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  00:14, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Good morning Stanton. Glad to read that. Thanks for letting me know. Trust all is well with you! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:28, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Pasg Hapus, Gareth.[edit]

Some Easter Lead Belly for you!
"Pasg Hapus! ... Happy Easter to you!"
Martinevans123 (talk) 10:12, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Wait for the jump! It's worth the wait!

Diolch, Martin
Great sound.
I love it.
Wait for the jump ... it's worth the wait!
Now then where did you sleep? — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:59, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, quite a lively jumper, that one. Good ol' Leadbelly, can even make a trip to the gallows sound quite exciting '.. anything that's good enough for Led Zep, is good enough for me.' Martinevans123 (talk) 21:55, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Fantastic talent, Martin! Now that pesky critter has jumped over to the rhs ... — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Happy Easter![edit]

Happy Easter
To celebrate Easter and the beginning of spring, here's a cute Easter bunny for you! White Arabian Filly Neigh

Anbe Sivam[edit]

Hello, there. How is it going with you? I was wondering if you could give the article Anbe Sivam, which I have planned as my next GA, a thorough copyedit. Do let me know. Thanks.  — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 00:54, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry Srinivas to not have replied before now but the last few days have meant I have hardly been on Wikipedia, so please forgive my bad manners. Do you have anyone else to ask? — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  13:25, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
I have asked a few people. Since your ce helped in bringing Missamma to GA, I wondered if I could ask you to do the honours. Well, I won't compel you to do it if you're busy in real life. After all, we all are.  — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 13:30, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Just made a start on the Plot, Srinivas. Is it okay? Try to do more tomorrow. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  18:06, 2 April 2016‎ (UTC)
Do continue.  — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:00, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Shall do. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  07:53, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
User:Corinne has started her copyedits. If there is any section that requires further copyediting, I will let you know. Thank you so much for the edits you've made thus far.  — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 05:38, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
So you want me to stop now? — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:25, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
For the time being, yes. If there are still a few places where some further copyedits are required, I will definitely inform you. Thanks again very much.  — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 10:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you for helping me out on here recently. I do appreciate it. Ches (talk) 18:54, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Ches (talk) 18:54, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I am always pleased to be of assistance. Never hesitate to ask. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:10, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary[edit]

Three years ago ...
buzzard eyes
... you were recipient
no. 401 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:16, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, dear Gerda for this today, and your constant kindness and good common sense at all times.
I cannot believe that three years have passed since your granting me with this honour.
I hope you have a lovely weekend. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:44, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

To whom it may concern ...[edit]

Grrreat canine pictures: [68] — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:31, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Are you a Harry Nilsson fan? I am a gigantic fan, and that song is my favorite. Softlavender (talk) 09:53, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Yes, Soft Lavender, I certainly am a fan. He could do no wrong in my mind and it is my favourite song of his too.
Followed by this one [69].
Thank you for responding! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:03, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Agree on all points, G. I also have his A Little Touch of Schmilsson in the Night, which I consider the greatest Great American Songbook album ever. I have also viewed the documentary Who Is Harry Nilsson (And Why Is Everybody Talkin' About Him)?, which is fascinating. A great loss to art that he's gone .... -- Softlavender (talk) 04:54, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Good morning! Thank you for the wikilink to the documentary. I must try and get hold of it. In the meantime, this trailer is great, and so is the clip that runs on after it automatically[70].
We are experiencing the coldest weather of this winter during March. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:41, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for that radio documentary -- I have put it on my YouTube watchlist. In terms of the film documentary, it's on several streaming services such as Hulu here. I watched it on Netflix Streaming, but as I recall I eventually got the DVD as well from Netflix because it has some important extras. The man was fascinating, complex, ingenious, self-destructive. Very close to the Beatles and Lennon in particular. Stay warm, dude! Softlavender (talk) 10:22, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Just a note[edit]

Just a note that "treeing" is a word, at least in America, maybe not elsewhere (I grew up with coonhounds and heard the word used constantly, but it's probably not in use in other English-speaking countries since raccoons are only found in the Americas).[71] [72][73] I'm adding it back in at the Black and Tan Coonhound page, since that's what at least two of the sources say, and added one of the above sources, the one that mentions the Black and Tan specifically, as a cite in the hunting subsection. White Arabian Filly Neigh 15:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Sorry to push my way in here but I'd also agree that "treeing" is OK. This Oxford dictionary has it, and indeed I would use it quite happily myself, without even considering whether the dialect was BrE or AmE, to say "my dog treed a cat" or whatever. I don't know if that's some unBritish lapse on my part but it honestly feels perfectly idiomatic to me. Plus, in that particular article it is used in AmE which is explicitly sanctioned at the Oxford reference above. Hope this helps, and if not I will get back in my box! Cheers DBaK (talk) 15:57, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
I am feeling suitably chastised but not castigated; glad to make you my new friend and always pleased when you visit.
I shall now immerse my slapped wrists in a bucket of this [74]. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  18:31, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
... and now I have to look up TWO words in the dictionary! Life is so unfair sometimes.
Seriously, Gareth, thank you for your as-ever-gracious response. Cheers! DBaK (talk) 21:02, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Mom used to use camomile bath soap... Actually, thanks for questioning the word because it helped me find a source for the previously unsourced hunting section. White Arabian Filly Neigh 18:48, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Raccoons[edit]

I saw that you had updated the Wikipedia article on raccoons, and I didn't know who else to contact. I am new to the idea of editing Wikipedia, though I read it frquently. The article says that raccoons are known throughout North America, north of Louisiana, Texas and New Mexico. I live in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and I can tell you that we do have raccoons here. Last summer, possibly August or September, a mother and at least three kits began entering my house through the cat flap, to eat the cats' food. I had never seen raccoons here, or even heard of them being here. I have lived here all my life (I'm 61) and my parents were both native Albuquerqueans, as well, and they had never mentioned raccoons living here in the city. The raccoons continued to come in the house about once a week until about 3 weeks ago; I haven't seen them since that time. I've wondered how much global climate change...and the drought here...has to do with raccoons in the city. Until last summer, we had been living through about 6 years of drought. Being on the northern edge of the Chihuahua desert, it is normally warm and dry here, but in those six years we were only getting about 3 inches of rain a year...then last year we had rain most of the summer, and achieved our previously normal amount of rain, about 10 inches. We had 3 snowfalls this winter as well, resulting in a very green spring, so far, so I've wondered if the raccoons have gone back to the "wild", now that there is enough to eat out there. Anyway, excuse my rambling on here. I just wondered how to tell someone that we do indeed have raccoons in New Mexico so the Wikipedia article can be changed. Thanks for listening to me. Cathy Calkins Cathie454 (talk) 06:13, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Good morning (Cathie) Cathy
How nice to find your post waiting for me here today. What you write (above) is interesting and should be added to Raccoon.
We need a reliable source, for example a local newspaper article or published letter, to support your observations before we can make the edit.
This link explains our policy about providing references.The short video, Short video explaining the concepts of "Verifiability", "Neutral point of view" and "Original research", is worth playing.
Do you think you may find one to add?
I look forward to hearing from you again.
All the best! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:43, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for the cookies!
OK, I am just not getting any of this... I mean how Wikipedia works. I couldn't figure out how to reply to what you said about my initial message concerning raccoons in New Mexico, or actually couldn't figure out how to reply to anything. I am used to the user-friendly, dumbed down, ways of the internet, and Wikipedia seems set up for people who are much more tuned in to coding, etc. I'm so sorry to bother you, but can you explain how I reply to messages?
Anyway, regarding confirmed sources for raccoons in Albuquerque, I found this page from Albuquerque's city government.[1] Also, I found this article, which also concerns the raccoons, from the Albuquerque Journal's online version:.[2] I also found a news spot from one of our local television channels:.[3] I googled to find all these sources, and there are many more. I hope these meet the criteria for a source.
Thanks again for your help on Wikipedia, and for the cookies. They were a nice surprise. I hope the way I did the cite for my sources is correct. Cathie454 (talk) 20:01, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
PS. I know I said the raccoons hadn't been in my house in weeks, but they hit again last night after I sent you the message. They must have ESP, and knew I had been talking about them. My cat was nervous and I went out to the kitchen to see what was going on (when you live with cats, frequently there is cat drama playing out somewhere in the house) and found the raccoons were just leaving after eating all the cat food in the cats' bowl.
Cathie454 (talk) 20:01, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Good morning Cathy.Thank you for this: there's a lot to reply to here. I shall only deal with the first paragraph today.
To reply to me here, or any other Talk page, normally one would first go to the Table of Contents, (ToC), and click on the sub-heading, "Raccoons". Then click on the [edit] link at the section heading and add your comment below my last entry ... you will see that I have removed your sub-heading "Raccoons again" because I want to keep our conversation all together as one subject ...
... but had you needed to start a new subject, you would have clicked—either the dark blue box—or the + tab, the [new subject] tab, at the top of my page. Doing either will place your new discussions at the bottom of the page. A new section automatically adds the sub-heading to the ToC box on my Talk page providing it already has at least four sections.

Now for Indentation
To ease the readability of any Talk page "THREAD", we practise Indentation. To do this, we type one or more initial colons (:). Each colon represents one level of indentation.
You will see that since you were last here,I have indented our converstion thus far.
These colons are in the wikitext and can only be seen when you're editing a talk page.
The first entry will have no colons before it. When replying you should use one colon. If you're replying to a statement that has two colons before it, your response should have 3 colons before it et cetera.
I hope this is comprehensible, but if not, please don't hesitate to ask for more clarification.
Wishing you a great weekend! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:19, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Well, we'll see if this works for me. I really appreciate the time you're taking to help me with this. So, were the sources I cited enough to update the Raccoon page on Wikipedia? I hope you are enjoying some spring weather, as we are here in Albuquerque. It was 65F 18C here today...still a little cool, but it could be worse! I'm hoping it gets to 70F 21C by the middle of the week. Enjoy your week, and thanks again for your help.
March 16, 2016. Those mountains are called the Sandia Mountains, and are the southern most part of the Rocky Mountain range
I thought you might enjoy a photo. This is the view from my front yard in Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA. I have been taking a photo of this exact view once a month since June of 2007 (or most months.) It has been interesting to see the changes in the weather, and in the neighborhood. Cathie454 (talk) 01:05, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Cathy! Good work on those references. You are learning fast. We'll consider how best to add your information to Raccoon tomorrow.
Having read my new friend's comment [75], I shall be pleased if she works with you too.
I have just put another indent-colon at the start of your post (you had put three) should have been four and then stayed with four when you returned five minutes later to add the photo.
Also, I hid your address—you were not logged-on initially—but you were when you added the photo. Thanks a lot for posting that here; great view of the Rockies. Much appreciated, and I'm impressed—I have never downloaded anything to Wikimedia Commons.
Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:42, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice on the indent-colons, and also about signing in. I keep forgetting to do that, but it wouldn't let me post the photo unless I signed in. I'll try to remember to do it every time. Cathie454 (talk) 19:31, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
"Pest..? How very dare you!" ...
I took the liberty of adding a sentence to the raccoon article, with the second source Cathie provided.[76] Frankly, I'm not surprised that they're pests. When I was a kid there was a raccoon that got into our cat food, which was kept in a sealed bucket on the porch. One night we put a cinder block on top of the closed bucket and sat up to watch. The coon pulled the heavy (15 or 20 pounds) block off the bucket, popped the lid and started eating in front of us. I'll never understand how it didn't drop the block the wrong way and flatten itself. White Arabian Filly Neigh 19:08, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
They're pests all right! But cute pests, not that it matters. Moving a cinder block! Wow. I've been thinking that the only way to keep them out of my house is to close the cat flap at night, which my cats would hate. I don't know what else to do about them... though since they only seem to come in to steal cat food about once a week, I suppose it could be worse. Oddly enough, they have not been into my garbage can in the kitc hen... they've only eaten all the cat food, and they tore apart the cat's water fountain and walked in it...I found raccoon prints in the bottom of it. I've only been putting cat food out in the early morning, now, hoping that the cats will eat all of it so there is none left for the raccoons. Cathie454 (talk) 19:31, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you both for your joint involvement
and Mike/"Boo!" for the picture and the excellently-hidden link to the funny video.
Monday, no time for Wikipedia ... more on Tuesday.
Cathy, Did you notice that I added your description to your photograph? (Referred to as a "legend")
I must reiterate that you have impressed me ... did you look up how to do it at Help:Files?— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  08:29, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Panoramic view of Albuquerque, New Mexico
Beginner's luck, I'm afraid. I saw where it said to insert a file, so I did, and I wrote the description where it said to, though apparently the description didn't work and you added it for me... thanks I appreciate it. I love the raccoon photo that was added by someone named Mike, and the caption he put on it. Yes, pests! Thank you to everyone who has helped me with my small addition to Wikipedia. It has made it more fun to be involved. I do love Wikipedia, and read articles every day. I've recently been reading a series of detective novels by Elly Griffiths, that are set in Norfolk, England, and so every time a place or a thing pops up in the books, I google them and look at the Wikipedia entries. Also a great panoramic photo of the Sandia Mountains, and Albuquerque. That would be the view from the west mesa, looking east. (We call the open spaces here mesa, which means table in Spanish since the tops of the areas are flat.) Thanks especially, Gareth, for all your help. Cathie454 (talk) 21:28, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Added a map to show the Rio Grande
Thank you, I enjoy helping; you are a quick learner. Just went to the Elly Griffiths article and made these two revisions—[77].
Can you confirm that the University name was wrong? Also took the liberty of correcting your typo to Norfolk.
I am a great fan of P. D. James's work. Her series of detective novels starring police commander and poet Adam Dalgliesh are terrific and some are set in East Anglia too.
I was not aware of Elly Griffiths. Thanks for that.
To change the subject, I want to tell you about the pipe character ("|") which both Mike and I used to add the legend/s to the image/s.
[[File:Spring view front yard.jpg|thumbnail|March 16, 2016. Those mountains are called the [[Sandia Mountains]], and are the southern most part of the Rocky Mountain range]]
Can you see the pipe immediately after "thumbnail"?
Mike also played a trick on us by concealing a hyperlink to a YouTube video,..., by just adding a space and an elipsis after the hyperlink, but all contained within the single brackets, which in turn is within the double brackets.
Anything unclear, don't hesitate to ask! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  12:08, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Added a map to show the Rio Grande and to appreciate your explanation (above) of the panoramic view.— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  13:17, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
I see what you mean by the pipe character after thumbnail. I'll have to try that if I ever need to add a legend. I am going to try a PD James book, from your recommendation. Currently, I am reading a series of books by Tana French, an Irish detective novelist. There are five of them, with a sixth due out this year. I am on the fifth one now. The third one, Broken Harbor, for my taste is the best so far, but they're all good. You can read them in any order, though they do all have some connections to each other. I didn't used to read detective novels, other than by Dick Francis and Tony Hillerman, both of which my mother told me about. Tony Hillerman lived here in New Mexico, and his books are spot on with the culture, lifestyle and people here. Those probably should be read in the order that he wrote them, as the stories are chronological. Well, sorry, I've filled your raccoon thread with detective novels. I apologize for that! By the way, I like the map you added, as it not only shows the Rio Grande, but also the Chihuahuan desert, which comes all the way north to Albuquerque. We are on the northern edge of it, so we live in desert conditions most of the time. Hot and dry, which I love, though we had a drought for about 6 years, getting only about 2 inches of rain a year, when our normal is 10 inches here in the city. Parts of southern New Mexico don't even get that much. 2015, however, we had a lot of rain from July through mid October and did reach our normal rainfall. We had a little bit of snow this winter, so spring this year is green and beautiful, though of course we do need more rain; we always need more rain. Sorry, I start writing and can't stop. Cathie454 (talk) 20:56, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Where I live (southeast US) it's the opposite, hot and wet and humid. We normally get over 100 inches of rain a year; on Christmas day last year we got 10, but it generally only snows once or twice a year. By the way, Cathie454, you seem to have got down most of the important things about markup, but for help you can look at this subpage of mine. It's still sort of rough, but it gives you the general idea. White Arabian Filly Neigh 21:20, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Wishing you both a Happy Easter.
Will reply properly in a fresh thread next week. Subject "edit summaries
Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  13:02, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment! Even though many people here in America who are my age (62) don't do much with tech-type things or the internet, I love all of it. I participate on a site called Flickr.com and am an administrator of a group on there, so I had to learn at least some of how to write code... minimal, but some. Also, I'm a retired RN (registered nurse) and if you know anything about nurses, it's that they learn quickly and follow directions well! Sorry I'm late answering this, but my daughter, who lives in New York City, was here in Albuquerque last week to celebrate my birthday, so I didn't do much on the computer. Anyway, I hope you're having a nice spring. It is partly cloudy and 72F degrees (22C) here today, and beautiful. Typical spring day here; by May it will be summer! By the way, the raccoons are visiting less often, thank goodness. It used to be once a week, but now it's about once every two weeks. Maybe they're finding enough to eat outside, now that it's spring. I HOPE SO! I have enjoyed all the photos, maps, and comments on this thread. (By the way [User:White Arabian Filly|White Arabian Filly] thank you for your offers of help and the link to your subpage. I'm always glad for a chance to learn something new about all of this!) Cathie454 (talk) 21:09, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Also, I forgot that I meant to reply to you question about the name of the university in Elly Griffiths' books. The university's name in her books is University of North Norfolk, which is fictional. She didn't use a real university for where her protagonist works. Sorry it took me so long to answer your question.Cathie454 (talk) 21:31, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Good news about your unwanted visitors. you definitely do not want those pesky critters in your home. I have just given you another use of the pipe.
Now then, when are you going to start editing Wikipedia? When you are, I shall return to the topic I mentioned above on 27 March 2016. Don't be shy! (there's another use) — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:37, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
I can't honestly say that I feel that I know enough about anything to edit Wikipedia! I do have a question about something. Both on the 22nd and 22rd of March you mentioned something about a hidden video that someone named Mike had inserted. I haven't been able to find that; can you please explain to me how to find the link to the video? I hope you're have a good spring. It's been cooler than usual here, and today and for the next few days we are supposed to have rain (I'll believe it when I see it) which will be so welcome.Cathie454 (talk) 23:28, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Cathy! To explain, I shall give you three examples of posting the same url ...

  1. http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/raccoon/
  2. [78]
  3. see this
  • The first is the bare url, and you can read it here; just as your references provided at the beginning of this thread.
  • For the second, I just put a single "square" bracket at either end; now you cannot read the url, but you do get an arrow to click-on enabling the reader to visit the subject.
  • And for the third, I did as in 2, but also added a space after the url, then "see this" and then the closing bracket; clicking on "see this" enables the reader to visit the subject.

It is the elipsis that you need to click-on in Mike's legend. This was a bit sneaky, and I am not surprised you could not spot how to get to the linked video.
Our spring has been cold, although quite sunny. Shortage of rain is rarely a problem in the British Isles. All the best! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  17:21, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for that! Lovely photos of raccoons. They are so appealing... too bad they are such pests, but I suspect humans and human society has made them that way!Cathie454 (talk) 22:32, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Auto news[edit]

I like this version best
— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:42, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Ferrari to Begin Using Hellcat Engines 7&6=thirteen () 18:44, 1 April 2016 (UTC) Happy 16th day after the Ides of March

I never have followed Formula One Grands Prix racing Stan. Has always struck me as boring. I would have expected Ferrari to use their own engines. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  14:36, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
It was published on April Fools' Day. Something I adverted to in my original post. Haha! 7&6=thirteen () 14:49, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Crazy. No point in posting on Hafs' Talk. Seems to have gone this time, more's the pity. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  14:53, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
I hope Hafs occasionally looks in. A real loss to the project. 14:56, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Nothing since 13:43, January 18, 2016
Happy 16th day after ...! Really! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  15:01, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
I didn't want to make it too obvious. 7&6=thirteen () 15:03, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
For your contributions in making Anbe Sivam a GA! Thank you!  — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 07:41, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Ceredigion[edit]

I have been rewriting the Ceredigion article as part of the Awaken the Dragon project, and I notice you have been correcting my errors, for which thank you! It is my intention to nominate the article for GA shortly. Do you have any views on how it could, or should, be further improved? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:21, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello Cwmhiraeth! You are doing a splendid job and I shall be glad to help in any way. I shall give it more thought. Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  17:40, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

[79] --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 07:21, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Eega/archive1[edit]

Hello Mr. Jones! Really a long time since we have met. Hope everything is fine with you. After a long time, i have begun an attempt towards featured content with Eega, a film with a very absurd idea. The FAC is open, and if you are interested, please leave your comments at the page. Yours friendly, Pavanjandhyala (talk) 03:06, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Always glad to hear from you, Pavan. I have taken a quick visit to Eega and shall return. Good luck with the application! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  08:43, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Skylark vs Polka Dots and Moonbeams[edit]

Great album. Is it me though or does Skylark sound like Polka Dots and Moonbeams at times?♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:37, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Good (Saturday) morning good friend!
Been avoiding my PC lately following a bout of WP irritability.
Terrific sound – I am listening to it now. Thank you for posting it to me! Have a great weekend! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  08:23, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Glad you're enjoying it. Yes, tell me about it, WP:Irritability is at the highest level right now!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

The Godfather to GA[edit]

Gareth,

I'm planning on finishing my goal of getting The Godfather to GA status, I'm going to get my hands on the Lebo book to help expand and refine the parts about filming and production. I think the only thing left after that would be to tackle the cinematic influence mess. Do you have any ideas on what to do with that section? I've posted some of my thoughts on the talk page, which I'm sure you've seen. Disc Wheel (T + C) 16:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Good idea, DW ... I have to confess that up to now I had understood that it was a GA
I agree with your editing yesterday ... long overdue.
I shall apply my thoughts to the "mess" — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  08:05, 4 June 2016 (UTC).

Korringa–Kohn–Rostoker approximation or KKR method[edit]

Your reversion to the insertion in the Korringa–Kohn–Rostoker approximation article is incorrect. The KKR is more accurately known as a method rather than an approximation because once the Schroedinger equation has been converted to the one-electron form, the KKR provides an exact solution. Of course, there are always questions of convergence in a particular calculation.

It is also interesting to note that recent research on full-potential KKR shows that the muffin-tin approximation does not have to be used.

ierakaris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ierakaris (talkcontribs) 17:42, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for posting here, Ierakaris, but I fail to understand how my revision here is not required. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:40, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Golden Hollywood Contest[edit]

Doc's just started up this contest about topics and articles covering Classical Hollywood cinema. Do express if you are interested or not by signing up under the "Editors Interested" section. Thanks.  — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 10:22, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Ssven2 for the info' – I offer my support for the idea but would not be joining in on any contest or equivalent. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:03, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Your support itself is quite alright. Diolch yn fawr iawn, Gareth Griffith-Jones. Haven't seen you in a while. How are things with you?  — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 11:04, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

"I Remember Clifford"[edit]

[80], not a very well known standard, but Sarah definitely does it justice!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:59, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

She certainly does. This is new to me, thanks.
Just yet another sad loss: "... jazz trumpeter who died in an auto accident at the age of 25."
Have a great weekend!
I'm starting another Wikibreak now. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:34, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Have a good one, Gareth! Softlavender (talk) 09:49, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Enjoy the break. Another lesser known standard, "Any Place I Hang My Hat is Home". Swingin song!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:37, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Gareth. Ayushman 13:13, 13 July 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrainProgrammers (talkcontribs)

Hope all is well Gareth. Best wishes, Daicaregos (talk) 10:38, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I hope all is well with you too Gareth. Regards, --Zerotalk 15:37, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Missing you already[edit]

Miss you Rudy Valee. Godspeed. 7&6=thirteen () 12:55, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Same, with a Gaelic blessing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK Light music

Moar for you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

I do hope you are ok Gareth and that you will be able to come back soon. Very best wishes. Thinking of you. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:31, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Diolch yn fawr iawn annwyl ffrind.
I have dipped my big toe into this murky pond a few times recently. Still finding it hard adjusting to "just me and my dog". — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  08:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Film you might like[edit]

If you haven´t seen it, A Most Violent Year was very good. It had a nice "post-Godfather" feel to it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:57, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this film to my attention – and I have added it to my LOVEFiLM by post rental list. Good of you to think of me. Sincerely, — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  17:56, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Synonyms[edit]

For medical articles we put these in the infobox. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:41, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for "putting me right" & reverting my edit! Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  07:28, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Need a litte help[edit]

Hello GGJ, after seeing something unusual, I started digging on some information on that small chapter of automotive history. As some other users began also to contribute to this article, I decided to work a little more on English lingual skills what made me try to translate the article →Rometsch, followed by →Dannenhauer & Stauss. I wanna share the story of the coachbuilders with You and would like to ask how miserably the translation successfully failed? --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 21:40, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Can it keep for 10 days, Hans? Currently, I am taking a break from my PC. Should be glad to help you from October 17.
All the best! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:03, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Of course GGJ, no hurry. Leisure and a needed break is first. CU --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 23:06, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Hans, I'm planning to start on these two on Monday. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  12:33, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Hans, I have copy-edited the Rometsch article and it awaits your approval. Dannenhauer & Stauss tomorrow on Thursday. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:25, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
GGJ, thank You. Again, I see differences in American to British English and me seems to have caught some grammer from advertising. The first 4 door sedan, later used a taxi cab was build as a hobby of personal project by Johannes Beeskow, DW reported. Beeskow was also the desgner of Modell Beskow. DW also reports from the smaller total production rate. It is not known from that source if the original chassis serial numbers were taken or new ones were taken. As Rometsch also did repair tasks, it seems not possible to recalculate the production rate from financial reports. An exact number is not known. As Nordhoff cut supplying to several external coachbuilders, he prefered the VW own production, the Karmann Ghia. These coachbuilders required to have order somebody else – strawpeople – to buy complete vehicles in their name from the retail market to hide Rometsch from Nordhoff and VW. --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 11:04, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Johannes Beeskow also was working for Erdmann & Rossi. He left Rometsch and was hired in late 1950s by Karmann. It is not known when Lawrence came to Rometsch. --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 11:10, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Will you add this to the article? If you do, I shall copy-edit your revision. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  17:33, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
I guess You have the better words for this. --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 18:02, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Now I need help: just started on Dannenhauer & Stauss, Hans, but I am finding it rather obscure. For example, where does the " & Stauss" fit in? The copy refers only to Dannenhauer. Is the company still in existence? — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  13:35, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
The company is older that a one persons career. So it is normal when changes occur. For WP the old car bodies Dannenhauer & Stauss are relevant. As Reutter left the business, Dannenhauer & Stauss came, even at that place. The location is simply a relevant fact about the company. Today that business is not relevant, but it has a relevant history. --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 15:11, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Hans. Is the company still in existence? Are you happy with the article as it stands? — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:42, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank You GGJ, I am just a little in doubt about. Dannenhauer passively got connections to VW. It was his job at Reutter made him corresponding with VW. But, I don't wanna revert this detail as You will have the words, matching it better. --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 10:21, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Hans, How about:
... He had been employed by Karosseriewerk Reutter based in Stuttgart. Whilst there, he was communicating with Volkswagen before World War II. ... [?] — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:11, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
This user is currently reading the 1983 espionage novel, The Little Drummer Girl by John le Carré.

le Carre[edit]

Hi Gareth, I see you are ploughing through the le Carres! A Perfect Spy is such a great book, isn't it? Easily my favourite le Carre, and one of my favourite stories full stop. The film version of Little Drummer Girl (starring Diane Keaton, for me maybe a tad mature to play Charlie) is available in decent quality on youtube at the moment if you are interested. --Hillbillyholiday talk 12:41, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Mike! Bizarrely A Perfect Spy was the first of his novels that I read ... and I still have the hardback I bought in in 1986. Not so much "ploughing", rather re-reading and certainly enjoying them more than on their original reading. Nice to know you are "watching". — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  14:53, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Haha, always watching! Vaguely connected, have you ever read any Chapman Pincher? The Roger Hollis case is endlessly fascinating to me (as it was for Pinchy, I think he wrote four books on it). Our article is predictably dire, but Pincher's memoirs Dangerous to Know, written at 100 years of age, cover it wonderfully and much else besides. --Hillbillyholiday talk 15:51, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
I haven't and I thank you for suggesting him. I have always thought of him as an investigative journalist. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  18:27, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

The Departed[edit]

Hello. I was just looking at the edit history at The Departed and I was hoping you might be able to explain to me the cause of the edit war over there back in September. Just glancing at it, it seems to be a very minor issue relating to where a film was set as opposed to where it was filmed, but it got blown completely out of proportion. Is this accurate? Thanks! I hope you're well. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 13:47, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello my friend! How good it is to hear from you. You have assessed it perfectly ... completely out of proportion.
I am well, but my wife, who had suffered Parkinsons for sixteen years, died on July 17. Still trying to adjust to a different approach to life.
My dog, Chancer, is a great comfort. All the best! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  19:58, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
It is good to hear from you, as well. I am very sorry to hear of your loss. Honestly, I don't know what to say. My brother died of cancer a week ago, so I do know about loss. As always, I will have a good thought for you. Be well. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 20:02, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
It's good to know you are there. So sad to hear your news about your brother. Life seems so unfair, trying to understand these tragedies.— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  20:11, 2 November 2016 (UTC)


Take a step back, Gareth. I know from unfortunate experience how easy it can be to get locked in and not listen to reason. This will all be sorted out. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 19:31, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, my mentor and sincere friend. Good advice. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:13, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

The missing[edit]

Hi Gareth, I see you have reverted my edits without comment. Pity. Please take the trouble to watch the series again - for example you will easily see that the army files are colour originals, not black-and-white copies for example. The same is true of all the other problems you have now reintroduced. Do not trouble replying as I will not look at the page again. I leave it in your hands. 86.170.123.76 (talk) 10:15, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Amusement, Viktor Vasnetsov
Ever used a colour printer? In 2016 even with the cuts that the British Army is suffering, I am certain they can run with that.
For the rest, refer to my replies on the article's Talk page.
— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:32, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
Post script: I thought this thread might amuse you, Martin; your being the editor who made that revision from stealing to copying(?)
— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  12:52, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Ah yes, I see you have captured me very well there, with my bottle of braggot, laughing over all the want ads in my quality broadsheet. I must admit that was a bit of a speculative edit.... one minute we see Gemma sat at a Eve Stones's secure pc and then, 15 minutes later, she's at the café brandishing an envelope stuffed with A4 sheets. That "CLASSIFIED" stamp does look a bit biege, if not the kosher squaddie red, doesn't it. Maybe stealing is better here than copying! ... although we'll never really know, will we. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:12, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Another padlock? "I don't know what I'm doing here. I don't know where I am." Often heard in these precincts, I suspect. But yes, certainly... "would seem to prevent him from understanding". And surely just yet another plot master-stroke from brothers Harry and Jack, and delivered so subtly by the wonderful Roger Allam. Had me immediately back on that bench, in the square, wondering if he had even been to see the doctor at all. Had me thinking "There's someone in my head, but it's not me." Martinevans123 (talk) 23:18, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

It is brilliant; BBC drama at it's best. Have you been watching Modus, Martin? Yet another mind-absorbing "Nordic noir" which I thoroughly enjoy on Saturday evenings. I am a great fan of those that have been shown so far. Don't find the sub-titles annoying. Find I generally need them on with most American films. Wishing you a lovely Sunday! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  08:49, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
It seems that one has completely passed me by, even though it is on BBC Four. Will have to catch up, as it looks quite a bit like Jolly Tales from Ystad. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:46, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
You will not witness anything to laugh at. Only eight episodes of 45 minutes each. We know who dunit from almost the start ... but it is very dark.— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:16, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy Holidays![edit]

Happy Holidays!
Hi, Gareth! Have a happy and safe season, and a blessed new year!
Holiday cheers, --Discographer (talk) 12:14, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you kindly. Season's greetings to you, too, and all that good stuff. :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:28, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Merry[edit]

Season's Greetings, Gareth Griffith-Jones!
At this wonderful time of year, I would like to give season’s greetings to all the fellow Wikipedians I have interacted with in the past! May you have a wonderful holiday season!
MarnetteD|Talk 17:00, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

Merry Christmas
Hoping you stay warm and have lots of good times and good food this holiday season! White Arabian Filly Neigh

White Arabian Filly Neigh 20:22, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays[edit]

Merry Christmas, Gareth Griffith-Jones!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. And for all the help you've thrown my way over the years. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Know that you are in my thoughts.
Onel5969 TT me 23:49, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

All the best for 2017![edit]

Thank you Gareth! And all the best to you for 2017, that's a nice friendly thing to do. Its about 26 degrees outside here right now, nothing like your pictures. Eddaido (talk) 03:51, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen/God Jul![edit]

Spread the WikiLove and leave other users this message by adding {{subst:Multi-language Season's Greetings}}

Thanks[edit]

Hey! Thanks for your wishes and I wish you the same. Happy Holidays! Krish | Talk 11:21, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year![edit]

Thinking of you
May you be blessed. 7&6=thirteen () 11:58, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

Merry Christmas Gareth Griffith-Jones!!
Hi Gareth Griffith-Jones, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia!
   –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 20:21, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

You too![edit]

Season's Greetings, Gareth Griffith-Jones!
At this wonderful time of year, I would like to give season’s greetings to all the fellow Wikipedians I have interacted with in the past! May you have a wonderful holiday season!
Nightscream (talk) 21:08, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to all![edit]

We wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year 2017!
Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas, and a Happy, Glorious, Prosperous New Year! God bless!  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 11:36, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

2017[edit]

From Blaenffos, Pembrokeshire,
best wishes for 2017
(and may all your edits be fruitful),
from Tony Holkham (Talk) 15:37, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

I am viewing your fantastic photograph in its original file – ‎1,600 × 1,200 pixels. Thank you very much for posting it here. Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:46, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Oi! Gareth, butty boy, there's lovely, look you ...[edit]

Lovely indeed. Thank you for all these great links. Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:36, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Gareth,
Thanks for your kind message on my talk page.
I am looking forward to the winter solstice next June (perhaps unfortunately I now reside in the southern hemisphere. If I could, I'd avoid summer solstices altogether.)
Anyhow, have a nice Yule "and that" (as Aussies like to say), you lucky person, with your snow & otherwise nice weather.
All the best,
--TyrS 23:05, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

John123521 (Talk-Contib.) RA is wishing you a Merry Christmas!

This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

--John123521 (Talk-Contib.) RA 06:48, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Copied response from Jon Richfield's Talk page[edit]

Gareth,
Good to hear from you again. The best of the festives to you, friends and family. We'll be spending it quietly, then taking a short trip to a fynbos area unfamiliar to me, where I hope to get some new photos and enjoy a silence that, to translate the reaction of an Afrikaans friend of mine, has the impact of an explosion. I have never yet been in an outdoor area too quiet for me.
I attach a few photos, from garden and nature reserve.

The Purple heron is usually very shy, in fact positively intolerant of company, but this one tolerated me while I worked on this dam in springtime
This Flame lily, Gloriosa superba is one of a patch established in my garden beneath an Encephalartos very toxic, but elegant
Toktokkie beetle solemnly trying to eat my finger. You can see the lesion in my skin. I stopped it when it started getting too deep. A most engaging animal

JonRichfield (talk) 12:14, 22 December 2016 (UTC)


From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! Bzuk FWiW (talk) 07:26, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Ha ha!
From the hot to the freezing.
I like the spelling. Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:30, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Greetings![edit]

Great photo of you, Pailey, the best I've ever seen; and super links. Hope your Christmas is going well for you in dspite of the unseasonally mild weather.[81] — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  19:26, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
I'm not a fan of cold weather (probably a result of working outdoors), so I love this mildness - proper Atlantic weather! It reminds me of winter holidays in Snowdonia. (Martha and the girls seem to be enjoying themselves, despite the tiny stage and the audience doing their best impression of a school disco...) PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:36, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

I hope you're staying warm.[edit]

I hope you had a good winter solstice as well. It was a nice day here, but now the weather is way too cold for me. I don't tolerate the cold very well, the older I get, after living on the edge of this desert for so long. I wish I could move south somewhere!

Have a great New Year. I hope 2017 is better for all of us, than 2016.

Cathie454 (talk) 00:36, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Lovely to hear back from you; I had feared that you may no longer be watching.
I am just the same as you and my good friend PaleCloudedWhite (he is not really that snowman above called Paily) and detest the cold & damp weather. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:24, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

A decoration for you (epiphylly)[edit]

Happy New Year!
Thank you for your efforts to fix Wikipedia and keep it a pleasant working environment! May 2017 bring you overall happiness as well as unexpected good news. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:03, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
A beautifully worded message, good friend. All the best, sincerely, — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:25, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year![edit]

Happy New Year!
Wishing you a happy, healthy, and prosperous 2017. Thanks for your friendship! -- WV 00:24, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
It is good to hear back from you. All the best! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:29, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Gareth Griffith-Jones![edit]

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Cheers! Dave You too! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  15:45, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Sonny Corleone[edit]

Actually the information I tried to add was in the novel. Sonny did originally come up with the idea to wipe out the other dons of the Five Families, and was described as a brilliant wartime tactician, with no one able to beat him until Barzini masterminded his execution. None of it is speculative as it is actually stated in the actual novel as I tried to describe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.56.105.195 (talk) 15:20, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, but it did not happen. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  17:13, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
In book IV, at the end of chapter 17, Sonny thinks of killing the dons of the Five Families in one tactical maneuver and set up surveillance on them as a first step, like what happened in the film, and chapter 19 explains how he was successful as a tactician in the War of the Five Families. So when I added that info, I did put in it that in the novel is where that info came from. While he may not have carried out the plan because he died first, the events I described did indeed take place in the novel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.56.105.195 (talk) 17:38, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi!
This is the list of Mario Puzo's novels:

  1. The Dark Arena (1955)
  2. The Fortunate Pilgrim (1965)
  3. The Runaway Summer of Davie Shaw (1966)
  4. Six Graves to Munich (1967), as Mario Cleri
  5. The Godfather (1969)
  6. Fools Die (1978)
  7. The Sicilian (1984)
  8. The Fourth K (1991)
  9. The Last Don (1996)
  10. Omertà (2000)
  11. The Family (2001) (completed by Puzo's longtime girlfriend Carol Gino)

I do not understand what you mean by "in book IV"
— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  18:07, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

The novel The Godfather (1969), which is split into segments called Book I, II, etc. is where the chapters to the novel are divided in. So in that original novel the film is based on, the segment Book IV, has the chapters 17 and 19 I mentioned. I'm not trying to make a big deal of this, I am just trying to clarify that it is indeed a fact from the novel I tried to edit instead of my opinion. You know? Lol — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.56.105.195 (talk) 18:19, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes I've found it. In The Godfather, Chapter 19, he writes, ... Sonny was a brilliant tactician ... but what was needed was the strategical genius of Don Corleone. The whole thing degenerated ...
Not worthy of inclusion in my opinion.
— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  18:07, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
That's ok, but I did think that his idea of wiping out the other dons of the Five Families first was worthy, as it would have ended the war and made the Corleone's the most powerful family in the nation years before Michael had done so. He may not have been on his father's level, but he was still a great tactician during war while not being a good don otherwise similar to how Tom Hagen was considered to not be a wartime consigliere like Genco was, but a good one outside of war. Sonny was one of my favorite characters in both the novel and film so that's why I felt that info should have been included to further shed more light on his character. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.56.105.195 (talk) 18:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I know. You are clearly, like me, a great fan. Have you read The Sicilian? It is set in Sicily towards the end of Michael's exile. I believe you would enjoy it. Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  18:59, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I did years ago when I was a kid, but I need to read it again since it's been so long, and my copy was lost in the flood that hit my home in Louisiana late last year in 2016. I also loved Omerta. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.56.105.195 (talk) 19:07, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I have edited that paragraph. It was rather clumsy; think it reads better now. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  19:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks my new friend and Puzo fan. I love discussing things about the original novel and the films. 104.56.105.195 (talk) 04:49, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
So do I.
Yes, I enjoyed Omertà too. Are you still living in Louisiana? Your IP address shows Chicago.
I see you signed this time; does that mean you accessed your (new) Talk page? — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:40, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
...almost!!!  ;) O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 19:37, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Well now, I almost wonder what I've done to deserve this.
Thanks for your support on the matter. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  19:42, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you for taking the trouble to fix this and for informing me of my incorrect action here eleven months ago. Good hunting! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:18, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Fun news[edit]

Hi Gareth

I found out about this episode yesterday. The DVD doesn't get its release until February but as soon as it does one will be on its way to me :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 21:45, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Good morning Michael,
I really enjoyed this episode ... great fun and a very clever plot. So good, that as soon as it ended, I watched it all over again. Wishing you a great weekend! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:11, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Tavernspite[edit]

Gareth, can you help? Tavernspite has been edited several times in good faith, but unsourced and not in WP style. How do I revert to the previous edit of 18 December? I probably knew this once, but have forgotten, and I can't understand the instructions in the help pages. Thanks, Tony Holkham (Talk) 10:24, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

That was quick; thanks, Gareth. Is there a simple way to explain to this duffer how you did that? Tony Holkham (Talk)

(edit conflict)Sure, I was typing it and hit your reply. First go to the History; then click on the date you want which is 16 December ... that version will appear with a banner. Click on Edit add your edit summary and click on Save. Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:14, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about the conflict, and thanks again. Still learning (if only my memory would keep up!). Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:18, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Ha, ha! I hope my instructions are clear. Have you tried restoring now? — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:23, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
...restoring my memory, you mean...? Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:30, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
I had not even thought of it like that.
The IP address is Toronto, and as they are all well-intentioned edits, I have created their Talk page with a standard WP Welcome. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  11:38, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Precious four years![edit]

Precious
Four years!

I just enjoyed reading our conversation then again ;) - thank you for still being around. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda for your lovely words today, and for your unswerving loyalty and good sense at all times. Wishing you a peaceful Sunday. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:48, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
I have just reread that thread too – I am still smiling and feeling serene. Gareth. 09:59, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors February 2017 News[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors February 2017 News

Hello everyone, and welcome to the February 2017 GOCE newsletter. The Guild has been busy since the last time your coordinators sent out a newsletter!

December blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 11 through 17 December; the themes were Requests and eliminating the November 2015 backlog. Of the 14 editors who signed up, nine editors completed 29 articles. Barnstars and rollover totals are located here. Thanks to all who took part.

January drive: The January drive was a great success. We set out to remove December 2015 and January and February 2016 from our backlog (195 articles), and by 22 January we had cleared those and had to add a third month (March 2016). At the end of the month we had almost cleared out that last month as well, for a total of 180 old articles removed from the backlog! We reduced our overall backlog by 337 articles, to a low of 1,465 articles, our second-lowest month-end total ever. We also handled all of the remaining requests from December 2016. Officially, 19 editors recorded 337 copy edits (over 679,000 words).

February blitz: The one-week February blitz, focusing on the remaining March 2016 backlog and January 2017 requests, ran from 12 to 18 February. Seven editors reduced the total in those two backlog segments from 32 to 10 articles, leaving us in good shape going in to the March drive.

Coordinator elections for the first half of 2017: In December, coordinators for the first half of 2017 were elected. Jonesey95 stepped aside as lead coordinator, remaining as coordinator and allowing Miniapolis to be the lead, and Tdslk and Corinne returned as coordinators. Thanks to all who participated!

Speaking of coordinators, congratulations to Jonesey95 on their well-deserved induction into the Guild of Copy Editors Hall of Fame. The plaque reads: "For dedicated service as lead coordinator (2014, 1 July – 31 December 2015 and all of 2016) and coordinator (1 January – 30 June 2015 and 1 January – 30 June 2017); exceptional template-creation work (considerably streamlining project administration), and their emphasis on keeping the GOCE a drama-free zone."

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Gribbin vs Gribben[edit]

There's really no need to correct Gribbin to Gribben, both spellings are correct. DuncanHill (talk) 20:00, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Hmm. Reads like a dissolution of marriage. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:06, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

To Kill a Mockingbird[edit]

Hi Gareth Griffith-Jones. Thanks for your note. Yes, to someone quite unfamiliar with the separate public accommodations that were commonplace at one time in parts of the U.S., it could be confusing. I have changed the link to something that should be more explanatory for those readers. I believe that under Jim Crow the standard terminology would have been "colored balcony" (cf. entrance, water fountain, etc.). I can't be sure—I'm not nearly old enough to have witnessed such signs in situ—but "colored's balcony" seems an unlikely usage. RivertorchFIREWATER 07:07, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Good morning.
Thank you for responding. As a non-American English-speaking Welshman, I really should not attempt to argue my point.
Hope you have a great week! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  09:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Secure Cookies[edit]

Hi Gareth,

Thank you for reviewing my edits, but I'm confused since I edited factually incorrect information. Leaving the information as is is extremely dangerous, since a lot of web developers have high trust in the information provided on Wikipedia. Since this article relates to security measures in cookies, used by essentially all web sites today, it is important that this is correct.

The Secure attribute on cookies does not protect the cookie from being read by JavaScript and hence offers no protection at all against Cross Site Scripting (XSS). This is done with the HttpOnly cookie as explained by my edit. This information is also clear on the main HTTP cookie article.

There exist no built-in mechanism for cookies to achieve Authentication, Confidentiality or Integrity. The Secure attribute provides confidentiality in transit, but not at rest. Therefore I removed this section since this was misleading, an developer would need to implement these feature themselves and that is a topic much bigger than this article.

Even though somewhat outdated, I expanded the configuration examples to also include the HttpOnly attributes. The SameSite attribute is fairly new and is yet to be supported by most mayor frameworks. This section could need some more work, but at least it's a little bit complete after my edit.

Again, I thank you for your contribution in keeping Wikipedia clean but I would appreciate if you would undo your revert as soon as possible.

Best regards, Axel — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhakE** (talkcontribs) 10:18, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

 Done Thank you for your post. Cheers! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:25, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Bishop's Palace / Court[edit]

Why have you deleted mention that Lamphey Bishops Palace was previously known as Lamphey Court? People may search for the name Lamphey Court based on some historic document and not only want to see the article on the hotel building. If you look on maps from the 1800s up to 1950ish it is often called Lamphey Court rather than Bishop's Palace. Many of the old engravings refer to it as Lamphey Court e.g. File:Lanfey Court, Pembrokeshire.jpeg, File:Lantphey Court, Pembrokeshire April 27 1774.jpeg, File:Ruins of Lantphey Court, Pembrokeshire.jpeg etc. JMiall 00:11, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Good morning JMiall,
Lamphey Court is the hotel in the village next-door to the Palace. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  08:48, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes I know that the hotel is currently called Lamphey Court and the palace is currently called Bishop's Palace. Why have you deleted information about what the Palace was previously called? JMiall 10:37, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Copy-editing to read: ... Lamphey Bishop's Palace or Lamphey Palace is a ruined medieval building complex in Lamphey, Pembrokeshire and is a scheduled ancient monument which has had Grade I Listed building designation since May 1970. In the past, it has also been known as Lamphey Court.[1].
— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  13:25, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/wa-17393-lamphey-bishop-s-palace-lamphey British Listed Buildings - Lamphey Bishop's Palace, Lamphey

Tenerife - Nelson's wounding edit[edit]

Hi Gareth, Thanks for your message. The edited passage was potentially misleading, as it could be construed that Nelson's arm was 'blown off' (to use the popular stereotype) by a cannon-ball (and note the reference to "legend" in the following sentence). Contemporaneous and secondary sources clearly indicate this was not the case - Nelson's arm was wounded by a musket ball or grapeshot (see, eg, http://aboutnelson.co.uk/health.htm). This projectile may have indeed been fired from a cannon (grapeshot is fired from a cannon, and musket balls can also be fired from a cannon as "canister shot"), or it could have been from a musket (there was musket fire directed at the landing parties too). My edit strove to clarify this while remaining equivocal on whether it was a musket ball or grapeshot and still maintaining the cited passage about the cannon "legend". I hope this makes sense. I cannot figure out how to restore the edit, if you could point me in the right direction, or restore it with the citation above, I would be grateful. Thanks kindly DK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.189.2.101 (talk) 23:22, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your post. I have restored the Tenerife article to your version [82]
Good editing! — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  10:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)


Am I getting old?[edit]

As I approach my three–quarterscentury, the postman delivered my FREE over-75 TV licence today, Monday, 27 March 2017.
There are some benefits in getting ancient.[83] — Gareth Griffith-Jones.

Congrats, Gareth, you old buzzard! Many happy returns, and enjoy watching TV without paying the Beeb. Jeez Louise they should be shot for all the air time they give Nigel Farage, but that's beside the point. Have an ale on me. Softlavender (talk) 05:34, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion[edit]

Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Just to let you know, if you're interested. Chaheel Riens (talk) 09:24, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Ha! A two-weeks-ban following User Arderich's two other bans in the last few days. Should be a lesson but I doubt it. Thanks for your input. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones, The Welsh Buzzard (Talk) 09:39, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Pasg Hapus[edit]

Some Easter Gwyn Hughes Jones for you
"Pasg Hapus! ... Happy Easter to you" ... y geiriau. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:23, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Many thanks Martin, my good buddy!
How on earth do these get to be spotted by admins is what amuses me. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones, The Welsh Buzzard (Talk) 09:54, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get me!! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:48, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Martin, I thought "bad table close" was in Glengarry Glen Ross (film). Gareth Griffith-Jones, The Welsh Buzzard (Talk) 11:39, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations[edit]

As thinking to be in Hawaii, I would be in time for birthday wishes. --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 10:01, 29 April 2017 (UTC)


WikiProject Investment[edit]

Not sure if this would interest you but you never know:


I'd like to invite you to join the Investment WikiProject. There are a lot of Investment related articles on Wikipedia that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help get this project off the ground and a few Investment pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles. Thanks!


Cheers mate. WikiEditCrunch (talk) 18:40, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, Wiki Edit Crunch. Flattered to be asked, but I would not be able to offer useful assistance on this project. Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 10:32, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

You "fixed several words"[edit]

Hi!
Thanks for rescuing Castleton.
I am intrigued to understand how on earth you were watching this insignificant article.  Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 13:19, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Welsh Buzzard,
I must admit your question made me laugh. I had to go back to my contribution history to remember, but since you asked, here's the long answer:
THe Castleton page isn't on my watch list. For the last few months on Wikipedia, I've been doing mostly copy editing. I'm a member of the Typo Team and have been on a search and and destroy mission for duplications of the words 'and' and 'the.' It's boring to do that all the time, so I sometimes click on a link. My edit immediately prior to those on the Castleton article was a deletion of a duplicated 'and' on the Morris Marina article. I can't find a link directly from that page to Castleton, so I may have gone to another page in between, but I wound up on Castleton, and when I saw words that shouldn't have been capitalized, I just couldn't leave them alone.
Regards,
Ira
Ira Leviton (talk) 14:13, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Ha, ha! The fun of editing WP, hey! Anyway, much appreciated and your good work led me to make a number of revisions following that IP before you. If you care to look at my User page you will see why I have an interest there. All the best. Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 14:22, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

TV programme news[edit]

Hi, Gareth. First, Trust Me is released on DVD Monday and will be heading my way as soon as Amazon UK ships it :-) Next, I've been forgetting to tell you that the third season of Great Continental Railway Journeys started airing on our PBS station two weeks ago and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. It gives me some hope that the American Journeys that you let me know about may air one day. Alternatively, I have received a notice that the second season - with the episodes south of where I live - is on DVD but it is a bit pricey at the moment. The cost will probably drop in the next 12 months so I just have to be patient. I hope that you have a delightful weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 05:23, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Always good to hear from you M and I am sure you are going to be delighted with Trust Me.
The second series of Doctor Foster is thrilling me at present as much as the first did two years ago. Wishing you an enjoyable weekend. Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 18:41, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Wow, M! I am impressed. Well done!
Wishing you a great weekend. Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 09:41, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
It's only 150,000 Gareth but my current project is causing me to go up the ladder a bit quicker. I'm sure you noticed that Dr Foster played the "Tardis" in The Doctor's Wife a few years ago :-) I've seen series one but two hasn't shown up yet. Hopefully next year. Have you seen this? A nice treat for Dr Who fans. I hope that you have a pleasant weekend as well. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 09:58, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Silly me, but it's still a great performance. Thank you for the Companions which is very enjoyable and will be revisited many times. Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones (The Welsh Buzzard) 10:24, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
You are most welcome. It really is a delight. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 14:53, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

York House School, Redheath[edit]

should York House School, Redheath be merged to Croxley Green? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.151.245 (talk) 13:22, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

YES. Please leave it alone. You are not doing it properly. Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 13:25, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 Done. All done. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 13:47, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
Nicely done, you old Buzzard! Long time no *speak* - I pretty much have you to blame to getting me involved in WP. Onel5969 TT me 13:55, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
Ha, ha! Well, Bil, you are the one responsible for getting me to do it.
What intrigues me, is what on earth took you to a prep school in Hertfordshire in the first place? Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 08:59, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
You know, I have no idea now. Might have been while I was doing my dab patrol. Between NPP, AFC & dab fixing, I end up in some of the most unlikely places. . Cheers old friend. Onel5969 TT me 19:06, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Pembrokeshire and the sea[edit]

Greetings, Gareth. The Celtic Sea confuses me, but I see no reason for not linking it to Pembrokeshire.

On another note, with your TV hat on, do you know when the new season of NCIS will be shown on UK TV? Confusion there, too.

And, as the solstice approaches: "May the bird of paradise fly up your nose..." All the best, Tony Holkham (Talk) 12:30, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Tony for this.
I was debating at the time whether or not we would prefer Atlantic Ocean, rather than Celtic Sea – it is part of it, after all. What aren't you sure of?
Sorry to say, I have no knowledge on NCIS. Just looked briefly at the WP article; it would seem I have missed out on an enduring classic.
I love your quotation... I'm playing it now. It's making me laugh.
Excellent Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 15:32, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
What I'm not sure of is where the Celtic Sea begins and ends, and whether the Bristol Channel and/or St George's Channel come into the equation. Perhaps Atlantic (or just sea!) would be better, as it is globally recognisable?
You've missed a good one with NCIS. Better than Homeland, IMO. If you ever get around to it, watch it from the very beginning. The New Orleans spin-off is good, too.
"Infamy! Infamy!..." Cheers, Tony Holkham (Talk) 15:50, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
The "Excellent" link took me by surprise. I was quoting from a Carry On film (not sure which one). The riposte is (of course) "...and up yours!". But a great track. Thanks. Tony Holkham (Talk) 15:58, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
This is the scene! Thank you. Cheers! Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 16:01, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewing[edit]

Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones.

As one of Wikipedia's most experienced editors,
Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 00:32, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Insertcleverphrasehere, I am flattered to be asked. I shall consider. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 09:39, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors December 2017 News[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors December 2017 News

Hello copy editors! Welcome to the December 2017 GOCE newsletter, which contains nine months(!) of updates. The Guild has been busy and successful; your diligent efforts in 2017 has brought the backlog of articles requiring copy edit to below 1,000 articles for the first time. Thanks to all editors who have contributed their time and energy to help make this happen.

Our copy-editing drives (month-long backlog-reduction drives held in odd-numbered months) and blitzes (week-long themed editing in even-numbered months) have been very successful this year.

March drive: We set out to remove April, May, and June 2016 from our backlog and all February 2017 Requests (a total of 304 articles). By the end of the month, all but 22 of these articles were cleared. Officially, of the 28 who signed up, 22 editors recorded 257 copy edits (439,952 words). (These numbers do not always make sense when you compare them to the overall reduction in the backlog, because not all editors record every copy edit on the drive page.)

April blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 16 through 22 April; the theme was Requests. Of the 15 who signed up, 9 editors completed 43 articles (81,822 words).

May drive: The goals were to remove July, August, and September 2016 from the backlog and to complete all March 2017 Requests (a total of 300 articles). By the end of the month, we had reduced our overall backlog to an all-time low of 1,388 articles. Of the 28 who signed up, 17 editors completed 187 articles (321,810 words).

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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year[edit]

Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year 2018!
Thank you for all the hard work and effort you put into Wikipedia. God bless! Onel5969 TT me 02:23, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
That is so kind. My !!card!! is already to be !!posted!! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑

Merry Christmas to all![edit]

We wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year 2018!
Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas, and a Happy, Glorious, Prosperous New Year! God bless!  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 10:31, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
That is so kind. My !!card!! is already to be !!posted!! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑

God Jul![edit]

We seem to be editing i different areas, men God Jul och Gott Nytt År iallafall! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:34, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

That is so kind. My !!card!! is already to be !!posted!! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑

Merry Christmas[edit]

John123521 (Talk-Contib.) is wishing you a Merry Christmas!

This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

--John123521 (Talk-Contib.) 13:08, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

That is so kind. My !!card!! is already to be !!posted!! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑

Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda[edit]

That is so kind. My !!card!! is already to be !!posted!! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 12:35, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Please make my pictures smaller if they're too big! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:19, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
I love it just the way it is Martin ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 17:45, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

That is so kind. My !!card!! is already to be !!posted!! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑

Seasons' Greetings[edit]

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 16:51, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

That is so kind. My !!card!! is already to be !!posted!! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑

A barnstar for you[edit]

Holiday barnstar
You deserve a holiday barnstar, but this barn flake was as close as I could come. And best holiday wishes to you. Thank you for making Wikipedia a better place. 7&6=thirteen () 16:55, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
That is so kind. My !!card!! is already to be !!posted!! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑

Happy Holidays[edit]

Happy Holidays
From Stave one of Dickens A Christmas Carol

Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail. Mind! I don’t mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country’s done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.

So you see even Charles was looking for a reliable source :-) Thank you for your contributions to the 'pedia. ~ MarnetteD|Talk 02:35, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
That is such an original wikicard M. Made me laugh. My !!card!! is ready to be !!posted!! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 10:29, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy Holidays![edit]

Happy Holidays!
Hi, Gareth! Have a happy and safe season, and a blessed new year!
Holiday cheers, --Discographer (talk) 19:16, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Season's greetings[edit]

A Shaker Christmas wish
Give good gifts, one to another
Peace, joy and comfort gladly bestow
Harbor no ill 'gainst sister or brother
Smooth life's journey as you onward go.
Broad as the sunshine, free as the showers.
So shed an influence blessing to prove;
Give for the noblest of efforts your pow'rs;
Blest and be blest, is the law of love.

Many, many thanks - to you as well. Happy editing into 2018 and beyond! --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:08, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Breathtaking photography[edit]

A treat to hear from you again Gareth; Here are two photos I took in our "Village" grounds. Both were lucky shots. Click for the full size. I hope they put you into the right mood for the festive season and new year.

A tiny Malachite kingfisher, looking as usual as if planning evil. Its colours are incredible and no photo can convey them
Egyptian goose on a roof and under a moon
Thankyou, Jon. Truly breathtaking. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 20:19, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Season's Greetings[edit]

Shearonink (talk) 20:55, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 21:44, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove and leave other users this message by adding {{subst:Multi-language Season's Greetings}}

Some falafel for you![edit]

cael Nadolig gwych a blwyddyn newydd hapus (hopefully Google is good at translating) Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 21:55, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

Merry Christmas
Hoping you stay warm and have lots of good times and good food this holiday season! White Arabian Filly Neigh 22:06, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Dear Gareth, thank you so much for the lovely Christmas greetings. All the best to you and yours too! With all good wishes DBaK (talk) 22:35, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year![edit]

Merry Christmas!
Wishing you warmth and joy throughout this holiday season and a very Happy New Year! -dawnleelynn(talk) 22:54, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Season's greetings[edit]

I think I've been sat here too long...

To Gareth
Season's greetings
from
PaleCloudedWhite

PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 11:29, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Articles for Creation Reviewing[edit]

Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones.
AfC submissions
Random submission
2+ months
2,382 pending submissions
Purge to update

I recently sent you an invitation to join NPP, but you also might be the right candidate for another related project, AfC, which is also extremely backlogged.
Would you please consider becoming an Articles for Creation reviewer? Articles for Creation reviewers help new users learn the ropes of creating their first articles, and identify whether topics are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Reviewing drafts doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia inclusion policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After requesting to be added to the project, reviewing is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the reviewing instructions before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 01:42, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello! I am flattered to be asked. I shall consider. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 10:08, 29 December 2017 (UTC)|)

Happy New Year, Gareth Griffith-Jones![edit]

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Blwyddyn Newydd Dda...[edit]

...i chi, Gareth. Cryptic clue for 2018: would it spoil the matrix if a member of the Guild of Copy Editors could be in two places at the same time? Cheers, and diolch yn fawr for your good company and help on this merry journey. Tony Holkham (Talk) 12:41, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi Tony!
That was smart of you! Happy New Year, my friend. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 15:16, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Gareth Griffith-Jones![edit]

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Cheers Davey. All good for you too! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 09:54, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Gareth Griffith-Jones![edit]

Another year award
Have a prosperous, productive. safe, healthy and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. 7&6=thirteen () 13:16, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, good friend! I wish the same for you and yours. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 14:52, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Northern Europe[edit]

Hello, and Happy New Year! While I am quite happy with most of your edits to the article, I am a bit concerned about the opening sentence stating without reservation that the article title "...refers geographically to all of Europe above the 52nd parallel north". As for all other x-ern Europe, the definition and delimitation is far from being universally accepted. It will surely be possible to source the 52 degrees borderline, but it will be equally possi--[[ble to find other limitations with just as good sources. Could I ask you to try adjusting the first sentence to something a bit less "cocksure"? Regards! --T*U (talk) 17:18, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for this. I too was unhappy with the opening statement, but I had been editing there rather heavily and thought I should stop for a reaction. Your's is welcome and I have just changed it to read,
... is a geographical term generally for the part of Europe that is placed approximately north of the 52nd parallel. Nations included within this region are the British Isles, Iceland, the Faroe Islands, the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, northern Germany and northwest Russia.
Narrower definitions may also be used based on other geographical factors such as climate and ecology.
What do think now? ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 19:39, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, much better! Saying the same in a less strict way. Thanks! --T*U (talk) 20:55, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Good morning T*U. I have adjusted it to now read as follows,
... is the geographical region in Europe that is north of the 54th parallel or approximately the southern coast of the Baltic Sea. Nations included within this region are the British Isles, Iceland, the Faroe Islands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, northern Belarus, northern Germany and northwest Russia.
Narrower definitions may also be used based on other geographical factors such as climate and ecology.
Are you okay with this? ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 10:40, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Well, actually I am not very happy with this. We are now back to an unqualified statement "...is the geographical region ... north of the 54th parallel" without any reservations like "generally used" or "approximately". Also the 54 degrees line bothers me a bit. I have not found any sources to support 54 as a delimitation. To be honest, there is not much to support 52 either, but at least I have seen it some places outside Wikipedia. Perhaps we should avoid using a fixed latitude altogether? Also, perhaps we should move this discussion to Talk:Northern Europe to get more input? Regards! --T*U (talk) 11:02, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
I agree with you. I was trying to accomodate User:Vihelik's intervention. How about,
... is the general term for the geographical region in Europe that is approximately north of the southern coast of the Baltic Sea. Nations included within this region are ...
I have copied this to the article's Talk page. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 13:59, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
This discussion continues at Talk:Northern Europe. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 13:41, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Happy Pongal, Makar Sankranti, Lohri and Bihu to you![edit]

May all your endeavours have a fruitful beginning and prosperous ending!  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 12:22, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Lovely, unexpected and appreciated greeting, Srinivas. Thank you very much!
‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 14:04, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Reassessment[edit]

Hi Gareth,

Recently I've been (hopefully!) improving Hertfordshire related stubs, most recently Clock Tower, St Albans. I've noticed you're active in a similar area, and as I'm not particularly familiar with the 'behind the scenes' stuff I figured I'd ask: How does one apply to get an article reassessed?

Many thanks,

Mark49s (talk) 18:00, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Good morning Mark,
May I refer you to Wikipedia:Good article reassessment in the first instance. If this is not enough, please come back to me here. Good editing! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 09:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Mark, if you develop a stub into a better article you can reassess it yourself. The WikiProject will pick up the reassessment. Clock Tower, St Albans is certainly at least a start class, and I will amend the article and talk page to show you how it's done. Click on quality scale to see how each classification is assessed. Going for good article status is a bit further along the line, as you will see. Best wishes, Tony Holkham (Talk) 10:13, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Many thanks, Tony ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 10:18, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi Tony & Gareth, thank you both for your help - I wasn't aware one could reassess, figured it would have be done by someone impartial! All the best, Mark49s (talk) 13:01, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Glad to able to help. Keep in touch! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 13:26, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Mark: you would find WikiProject and WP:PROJ helpful background. Tony Holkham (Talk) 13:29, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Steamed up[edit]

Did you see this, Gareth? Made me smile on this cold morning. Tony Holkham (Talk) 09:49, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

No, and thank you, Tony for the heads up! I am still wearing a big smile. Great video. All the best! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 09:58, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Kanton Island Airport[edit]

In response to your message about my edit of "Kanton Island Airport", I do not have a reference, just a memory... of landing at CIS on ON (Air Nauru)'s lone 737-200, specially equipped for landing on coral dirt runways, in 1994. I may have a photograph somewhere. The routing was HNL-CXI-CIS-TRW-INU. I flew the roundtrip twice, in 1993 and 1994. In 1993, the flight was non-stop from CXI to TRW, but at 3300 km, this was pushing the range of the 737-200, even equipped with extra tanks in the luggage hold (and passenger luggage carried on the seats in the back of the cabin!), and by 1994, they were stopping at CIS. The route was discontinued later that year when the 737-200 failed an inspection by the FAA at HNL airport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.124.164.104 (talk) 13:06, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I have restored your edit with a template. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 17:28, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Points of the compass[edit]

Thanks, I read this with interest and I think it is accurate in its spellings for American English. Carmarthen, however, would be in UK English. I'm only mentioning this. It's really not too important if you prefer the single-word form. Cordially, Brian Bmcln1 (talk) 18:59, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Brian for this. Although I would usually support British English, I do like this without the hyphen. All the best, ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 19:08, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
I didn't know that in British English the points were hyphenated. I used to hyphenate them without any basis. Is there a source for this (later than my 1925 Concise Oxford Dictionary)? If so, perhaps it should be mentioned in the article? Tony Holkham (Talk) 20:42, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Just a quick google shows me that https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/south-east offers southeast as an alternative. My New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary of 1996 goes for south-east alone.Bmcln1 (talk) 21:15, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Copied from IP's Talk[edit]

The Godfather Part II
Copied from IP's Talk
Information icon Hello, I'm Gareth Griffith-Jones. I wanted to let you know that your recent contribution to The Godfather Part II has been undone. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Thanks. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 17:40, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Why is intended? The current format has it under "Julian Voloshin as Sam Roth". They are not the same characters. Or is it intended because he is a younger version? Then why isn't young Clemenza intended? Either way there is an error in that section.
134.255.88.152 (talk) 21:20, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Good morning!
Salvatore Tessio is played by Abe Vigoda in The Godfather. Vito suffers a fatal heart attack and at his funeral, Tessio, a Corleone capo, asks Michael to meet with Don Barzini, signalling the betrayal that Vito had forewarned. Tessio is executed for his treachery.
Bruno Kirby as young Peter Clemenza. I have repositioned young Salvarote Tessio in the cast listing to avoid confusion. Both with double asterisks.
Please acknowledge here when you have read this explanation. Cheers! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 11:24, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for correcting the mistake, although I believe double asterisks should only be used when the older version appears as well, like in the case of Carmela Corleone and Hyman Roth. Currently it looks like they are all related to "Franco Corsaro as Genco Abbandando". I have never seen this format on any other page, double asterisks are always used to imply that it's the same character but played by a different actor. But correct me if I'm wrong and please mention some other pages that have this kind of format. Thank you.
84.0.196.208 (talk) 15:37, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for this post. I shall see what can be done. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 11:06, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

AfD nominations[edit]

Hi, when nominating articles for deletion at WP:AFD, you don't need to nominate the talk page at the same time, WP:G8 will allow an admin to immediately delete the talk page if the article is deleted after the discussion. Thanks. IffyChat -- 13:12, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for that Iffy. Cheers! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 15:01, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Pembrokeshire GA[edit]

Thanks, Gareth, very much for your enormous help in getting Pembrokeshire to GA status. Tony Holkham (Talk) 12:36, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations Tony!
Very well-deserved award. You must be feeling proud and, with all that "burning the midnight oil", exhausted.
I am delighted and glad to have been involved. Cheers! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 13:50, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Bilaskhani Todi article[edit]

Yeah, that was shoddy work on my part. I have added the information back with a reference to a reasonably well-known source. When I get a chance I'll look through my music books and see if I can back it up with a book reference. 70.114.211.80 (talk) 21:07, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for posting here ... and I notice you have added a citation. Cheers! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 09:41, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

IP on Line of Duty[edit]

Gareth, that IP isn't going to give up, so I've requested the article be semi'd for a bit. I also adjusted the cast list so it aligns the main cast with in the infobox with the main article. No idea where he/she gets the harebrained idea that every supporting character in the county goes in the infobox. ----Dr.Margi 00:17, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes, thank you very much for doing that and for your support there over the past few days. Hope you have a lovely weekend. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 11:44, 16 February 2018 (UTC) ]]
I see our little friend is back. I love that he thinks I'm psychic and know all about his motives and his plans. Ah, well. He can go fish. Thanks for reverting his rant. ----Dr.Margi 17:59, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Heatherton[edit]

Hi, Gareth, I wonder whether you could advise on something. For some time, people connected with Heatherton (see Draft) have been wanting to include it in the Pembrokeshire article, even to the extent of emailing me the other day, to which I replied (apologies for the length of it), intending to be helpful -

Thanks for getting in touch. You won't want a long and detailed answer to your request to include Heatherton in the Pembrokeshire Wikipedia article, I'm sure, so I'll be as brief as I can.

I did wonder why you would want Heatherton included in the Pembrokeshire article, as I doubt its inclusion would increase your numbers of visitors. Tourists looking for places to go would, I imagine, be more likely to find you on Visit Pembrokeshire (http://www.visitpembrokeshire.com/attractions-events/heatherton-world-of-activities/) or the Tenby official site (http://tenby.co.uk/things-to-do-in-tenby/). Locals would know about Heatherton already. The inclusion of tourist attractions (or, more importantly, advertising) is not one of Wikipedia's purposes (see the opening paragraphs in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not for some notes on Wikipedia policy). Any attractions included (as examples) would be expected to be notable.

Notability has a special meaning on Wikipedia (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability) and Wikipedia tries to be neutral (doesn't always happen!). Those attractions that are included are, you could argue, somewhat arbitrary, but they do have their own Wikipedia articles. Of the hundreds of visitor attractions in Pembrokeshire, only a tiny fraction can be mentioned, otherwise Wikipedia looks like a tourist's guide, and tourism is only a small part of an encyclopaedic article on Pembrokeshire, as you can see.

I remember an attempt to create an article on Heatherton in Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Heatherton_World_of_Activities), but I see it didn't succeed for the reasons given. If you think there are several reliable and independent sources (other than your own literature) to support such an article, you could rewrite the article from a neutral point of view; there is no reason why you couldn't do that with the help of other editors (I'd be happy to help), provided you declared your interest. Are you the editor who created the draft? I'll have a look at the draft article, but any further discussion would be best within Wikipedia, rather than by email, as it keeps everything visible. It could be discussed on Draft_talk:Heatherton_World_of_Activities, on which I have made a few comments, and will be happy to hear other views.

I'm sorry if this sounds all too complicated (or even unfair), but in conclusion I would say don't worry about Heatherton not appearing in the Pembrokeshire article - I don't think it would benefit you much; your own article would be of much more use to you.

There was no reply, but now user zoefolly (whom you helped in 2014 and has been inactive since then) has added an unsourced comment about Heatherton on the Folly Farm article (which itself is largely unsourced), which I thought unusual. Perhaps I shouldn't have engaged by email, and I certainly don't want to appear as though I oppose their wish to be on Wikipedia.

Should anything be done about this, do you think and, if so, what? Cheers, Tony Tony Holkham (Talk) 22:49, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

As you have already noticed, thanks for your "thanks" there, I had returned to Folly Farm prior to replying to you here. Inevitably, I was side-tracked into overhauling the article whist removing Zoe's addition.
My thoughts on Heatherton, especially considering you did not even get a reply, have not changed: they are clearly trying it on; to use Wikipedia as a gazetteer. Can't blame them for trying though. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 11:27, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Wise One; I'm not being stupid, then! Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:32, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Always pleased to "chat" with you. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 11:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Precious five years![edit]

Precious
Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

How very generous Gerda; much appreciated as always. It is alarming how rapidly the years fly by. Hope you had a lovely holiday. All the best, ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 10:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! I post a daily pic on my talk, just returned from Timna Valley, with ancient copper mines. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:29, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the link. It looks ethereal. Holidays are always over too soon. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 17:37, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

University Park, Pennsylvania clarification from January 2018[edit]

Hi Gareth - my change was relevant, although very minor. Penn State, as an institution, does not refer to the University Park campus as "main campus" but rather as its "flagship campus" or simply as the largest campus[1]. The terms "main campus" and "branch campus" are both colloquial in nature, typically used by Pennsylvania residents, and unofficial. Penn State refers to each campus by name, or in the case of non-University Park campuses, they are Commonwealth Campuses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.99.175.65 (talk) 04:37, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Hello! Thank you for posting here and for the link. All the best! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 08:47, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

GOCE February 2018 news[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors February 2018 News

Welcome to the February 2018 GOCE newsletter in which you will find Guild updates since the December edition. We got to a great start for the year, holding the backlog at nine months. 100 requests were submitted in the first 6 weeks of the year and were swiftly handled with an average completion time of 9 days.

Coordinator elections: In December, coordinators for the first half of 2018 were elected. Jonesey95 remained as lead coordinator and Corrine, Miniapolis and Tdslk as assistant coordinators. Keira1996 stepped down as assistant coordinator and was replaced by Reidgreg. Thanks to all who participated!

End of year reports were prepared for 2016 and 2017, providing a detailed look at the Guild's long-term progress.

January drive: We set out to remove April, May, and June 2017 from our backlog and all December 2017 Requests (a total of 275 articles). As with previous years, the January drive was an outstanding success and by the end of the month all but 57 of these articles were cleared. Officially, of the 38 who signed up, 21 editors recorded 259 copy edits (490,256 words).

February blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 11 through 17 February, focusing on Requests and the last articles tagged in May 2017. At the end of the week there were only 14 pending requests, with none older than 20 days. Of the 11 who signed up, 10 editors completed 35 copy edits (98,538 words).

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An award[edit]

Protector of Wales
And happy St. David's Day to you. May the leek protect you. 7&6=thirteen () 16:37, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
That's great! Thank you,good friend! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 16:39, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Look at Old Church of St Nidan, Llanidan! Just found that gem, searching for references to Psalm 84. How would you include that? Feel free to just do it! - Unfortunately, that psalm seems to be not by David ;) - Did you know that I expanded Le Roi David? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:42, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for that, Gerda ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 09:53, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Wrong category[edit]

I'm sorry I added the wrong category on the American Staffordshire Terrier page. I just got confused by the infobox.

--Chili The Border Collie (talk) 11:11, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

No, Chili The Border Collie, your addition is good; it led me to remove the other one. :Dog breeds originating in the United States. Thanks for posting here! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 16:09, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Aida Garifullina[edit]

Hello, you recently removed at edit which I made to Aida Garifullina's wikipedia entry. I am Aida Garifullina's manager and she personally asked me to insert the text about her father and brother. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathanmoah (talkcontribs) 16:36, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for contacting me. Your premise is wrong; articles on Wikipedia are not there to be promotional platforms. The very fact that you are editing your client's page is against our guidelines. All additions must be supported by independent, published sources.
Your editing, "Aida's father, Emil, has also been extremely supportive of Aida's studies and career, regularly travelling to attend her performances around the world - her younger brother, Rem, is trainee chef." does not conform in any manner. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 08:47, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Influence[edit]

Completely respect how you’ve developed that page. Should I find citations where it states The Sopranos is considered the most influential show? Wardrobedude (talk) 17:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes please Wardrobedude. Thank you! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 17:26, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
I found citations regarding The Sopranos, but unfortunately I didn’t save them. I’ll send them to you so you can judge whether it’s enough, seeing as you have more experience Wardrobedude (talk) 12:05, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Saturday[edit]

All the best for Saturday, Gareth. Hope you're going somewhere nice and warm! Tony Holkham (Talk) 14:35, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

I hope so as well.[84] --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 11:16, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Western Governors University[edit]

WikiProject Georgia Tech

As a current or past contributor to a related article, I thought I'd let you know that I've started WikiProject Western Governors University, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of WGU. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks! Paul Smith111977 (talk) 09:08, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Brewery name convention[edit]

I'm contacting you as an active contributor on brewery articles and/or member of WikiProject Beer. There is some discussion going on as to how we should name our brewery articles. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Beer#Change_brewery_titles? and Talk:Greene_King_Brewery#Requested_move_10_May_2018. If you are interested, please comment. SilkTork (talk)

June 2018 GOCE newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors June 2018 News

Welcome to the June 2018 GOCE newsletter, in which you will find Guild updates since the February edition. Progress continues to be made on the copyediting backlog, which has been reduced to 7 months and reached a new all-time low. Requests continue to be handled efficiently this year, with 272 completed by the end of May (an average completion time of 10.5 days). Fewer than 10% of these waited longer than 20 days, and the longest wait time was 29 days.

Wikipedia in general, and the Guild in particular, experienced a deep loss with the death on 20 March of Corinne. Corinne (a GOCE coordinator since 1 July 2016) was a tireless aide on the requests page, and her peerless copyediting is a part of innumerable GAs and FAs. Her good cheer, courtesy and tact are very much missed.

March drive: The goal was to remove June, July and August 2017 from our backlog and all February 2018 Requests (a total of 219 articles). This drive was an outstanding success, and by the end of the month all but eight of these articles were cleared. Of the 33 editors who signed up, 19 recorded 277 copy edits (425,758 words).

April blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 15 through 21 April, focusing on Requests and the last eight articles tagged in August 2017. At the end of the week there were only 17 pending requests, with none older than 17 days. Of the nine editors who signed up, eight editors completed 22 copy edits (62,412 words).

May drive: We set out to remove September, October and November 2017 from our backlog and all April 2018 Requests (a total of 298 articles). There was great success this month with the backlog more than halved from 1,449 articles at the beginning of the month to a record low of 716 articles. Officially, of the 20 who signed up, 15 editors recorded 151 copy edits (248,813 words).

Coordinator elections: It's election time again. Nominations for Guild coordinators (who will serve a six-month term for the second half of 2018) have begun, and will close at 23:59 UTC on 15 June. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are eligible, and self-nominations are encouraged. Voting will take place between 00:01 UTC on 16 June and 23:59 UTC on 30 June.

June blitz: Stay tuned for this one-week copy-editing blitz, which will take place in mid-June.

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August GOCE newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors August 2018 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the August 2018 GOCE newsletter. Thanks to everyone who participated in the Guild's June election; your new and returning coordinators are listed below. The next election will occur in December 2018; all Wikipedia editors in good standing may take part.

Our June blitz focused on Requests and articles tagged for copy edit in October 2017. Of the eleven people who signed up, eight editors recorded a total of 28 copy edits, including 3 articles of more than 10,000 words. Complete results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Thanks to everyone who participated in the July drive. Of the seventeen people who signed up, thirteen editors completed 194 copy edits, successfully removing all articles tagged in the last three months of 2017. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are here.

The August blitz will run for one week, from 19 to 25 August. Sign up now!

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MOT failure ?[edit]

I might still have, in the deepest depths of my garage, some piston rings for a BMC A-series engine 1250cc engine if they would be of any help ?  Velella  Velella Talk   17:32, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello Velella,
I am both delighted to hear from you and flattered that you are watching.
The offer is kind but I would not dream of allowing you such a task on my behalf. It would be pointless on two accounts. First, my car has the BMC B-series engine 1800cc, and second, it has not failed. From Sunday, 20 May 2018, the MOT rules changed: vehicles more than 40 years old (Mine is almost 48 years old) are exempt from having an MOT.
All the best. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 18:01, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Owain Glyndŵr[edit]

Gareth, you might be interested in this requested page move on Talk:Owain Glyndŵr#Requested_move_12_June_2018, if you haven't already seen it. Best wishes, Tony. Tony Holkham (Talk) 22:29, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

No need; move didn't happen. Hope you're OK. Tony Holkham (Talk) 22:56, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up Tony. I gave up on Wikipedia on 10 June, deciding another irregular absence was overdue, so missed your first edit here by a couple of days. Back now, two months later.
Hope all is well with you. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 11:28, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Gareth. Good to see you're back. I have not been editing a great deal lately, either; been taking it easy in the heat, apart from a trip to England last month (including 4 hours stationary on the M4 near you)... Cheers, Tony Tony Holkham (Talk) 23:19, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hurricane Lane weakens to tropical storm near Hawaii, but more damage expected[edit]

Thinking about you. Hope you are safe. Best wishes ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 19:04, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Gareth! I was wondering when someone on-wiki was going to pick up on the fact that I have been in the path of a hurricane. Thanks for your concern. The good news is, although it was still a hurricane when it was closest to my island (the Big Island of Hawaii), I emerged unscathed. It dropped 50 inches of rain on my town (Hilo), flooding rivers and the bayfront areas, but because Hilo is always set up to handle heavy rain and tsunami-type surges, very few homes were flooded. My house-lot did not flood (much of this island has lava soil which has perfect drainage), and my house is up on stilts anyway. There were no winds at all; we were protected by the two giant mountains mid-island. So although it was a tiny bit nerve-wracking to track the information for three days, the concern has passed for my island. It may affect Maui and Oahu, but it is severely weakened now and its path has been diverted, which was the hoped-for best-case scenario all along. Softlavender (talk) 02:41, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
This is such good news S. I am glad that you are safe and sound. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 03:06, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Same here. Didn't know you were in Hawaii. Good to hear you are safe. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:16, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks M and S! We really actually need to thank the giant and high volcanoes on this very large island, which always shred and divert hurricanes, and also create a "wind shadow" so the hurricane(s) loses force. So perhaps we should be thanking Madame Pele for once this year. Softlavender (talk) 03:18, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
So pleased to read this good news. You would seem to live in the best position in the state and probably in the United States. All the best! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 08:45, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Gareth![edit]

Sure, I liked your edit just fine. So you're a Brit huh? I lived in Germany when I was a kid and never made it to England in over three years living there. How lame is that? Don't hold it against me that I'm a yank. :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 06:15, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Now why would you say that?
Sorry you missed coming to Great Britain, but you still could. Glad you did not take offence about my editing your User page—many get most upset about anyone doing that unless it's removing vandalism. Thank you for the thanks.
Interesting that you and I share hawk (in these parts, we say buzzard) in our Wikipedia signatures. Should I call you Jenny? If you don't care for that, tell me what you prefer. ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 08:25, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Well since my name is Jenny, I don't see how I can object to it. :-) I could try 'call me Ishmael'--but I'd forget to answer... Americans are not always popular, you know--especially these days... For us, a hawk and a buzzard are different birds. I thought that kind of thing was universal. Classifications and all that science nonsense. Blah blah blah--science... We can still come to GB! And one of these days--after I win the lottery--we will! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:03, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello Jenny, I agree with you about the hawk/buzzard thing. They are different birds. Generally, buteos have broad wings and sturdy builds. They are relatively larger-winged, shorter-tailed and fly further distances in open areas than accipiters such as goshawks or sparrowhawks. Buteos descend or pounce on their prey rather than hunting in a fast horizontal pursuit.
On a different matter, punctuation, I notice you often like to add two hyphens. You get a better result typing {{mdash}} which produces this: — called an emdash.
I do enjoy our "chats" ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 12:33, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation about how to do those wiki dashes! I have seen them and not known how, so I am always thankful to learn one more of those WP peculiar techniques! There are so many of them! And I forget stuff Gareth.  :-) I wrote this down... If I can just remember where I wrote it... My husband is actually of English descent—and some Scot—and traces his family back through Elizabethtown to Sir John Hawkins the pirate and slaver. We don't tell people that very often... but family legend says the name Hawkins comes from being the guy that handled the King's hawks. I don't know. My father was a first generation American from Denmark. We didn't have anything to do with hawks—or buzzards! :-) So you not only know about literature, you also know a bunch of science stuff too—or are you into birding? I have a grand-daughter who is 5 years old who is seriously into birds these days. I am enjoying chatting too. It's not only nice to find a friendly person, it's nice to have a little "stress free" discussion. I love Grabergs and his humor a lot for that reason. And he is clever! He is capable of talking about something without controversy. I get tired of controversy! So, thank you thank you thank you!!! Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:48, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Totally agree! There are far too many undesirable characters—I could be much more descriptive—in this strange world called Wikipedia. I have walked away from it several times over the past seven years following clashes, but I always return later. You must not "let it get to you". Much better to realise that it's not worth getting upset. Do as I do these days: get rid of the irritation by taking the article off your watchlist. Then a few weeks later, return it if you still care enough. More often than not, you will discover that the offending uncouth or obnoxious person has disappeared. Oh, and if you want to be less generous, coming up is another dash, {{ndash}} – that is an endash.
Diolch, Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 09:06, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Wise words from a wise old bird; good to be reminded of this sometimes. Thank you. Tony Holkham (Talk) 10:21, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Ha ha! Cheers Tony! Diolch, Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 13:39, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello Jenny,
Yes, it is Welsh and translates to "thank you" or "thanks"—just noticed your post on Grabs page—do you ever sleep? Cheers!, Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 09:31, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Please stop posting this Welsh vulgarity all over the internet. Softlavender (talk) 10:52, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
If this is Welsh vulgarity--I'll take it! :-) Sleeping is for wimps! Hah! I do sleep on occasion, but remember I am about six hours away from you--at least I think it's six... Anyway, it's morning now! How about you? Is it night there? Or afternoon--I never can remember. Jenhawk777 (talk) 13:07, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello Soft Lavender, always good to know you are watching. I have taken the vulgarity away and, thank goodness, you escaped your Hurricane Lane two weeks ago and now Jenny is threatened with Gordon.
Yes, it's afternoon here and your post above was at seven minutes past two; you must be on Central Time Zone (CT) with daylight saving—we call that British Summer Time—one hour forward of Greenwich Mean Time (GMT)—in effect, changing the time zone from UTC+0 to UTC+1.
We are blessed with our weather here. Cheers!, Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 14:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
I love that: British summer time. It must be getting close to fall there by now. We basically have three summers and January. That's our weather.:-) And every twenty years or so--we get a light snow! Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:12, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
It is just beginning to feel that autumn may be not too far away. You remind me of how I have heard that parts of California have the same weather the whole year round. I am a summer person; love the sunshine and dislike the dampness of winter. This year, we have enjoyed the best summer since 1947, when I was 5.
So which one of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida, are you in? Cheers!, Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 15:30, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Sigh. We won't expect to get a break from the heat until well into November. It is not rare for it to still be warmish at Christmas, but it generally starts getting cool by then. I sit at the northern edge of the Gulf, right off the Florida panhandle, about ten to 15 miles (in a straight line) from the beautiful "sugar sands" of the beach there. I am a "full sun" person too, and generally love the semi-tropical climate here--except in August when it is 100 degree F day after day with often close to 100% humidity. Then I sing the praises of the man that invented air conditioning! Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:54, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Florida counties that may be included in references to the Florida Panhandle
I guess this map shows where your home is.
If Florida is partly in the Eastern Time Zone with the remaining portions in the Central Time Zone— Peninsula and Big Bend regions east of the Apalachicola River along with portions of Gulf County south of the Intracoastal Waterway—this explains to me that we Brits are six hours ahead of you.
It does seem odd to me, Jenny, that Florida would have to be split into two zones. It is not that wide. Great Britain is approximately 355 miles (571 km) between Felixstowe in East Anglia and Fishguard Harbour, Goodwick, in Wales. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 18:36, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
The info site tells me Florida's "Length North to South — 447 Miles. Width East to West — 361 Miles." I am all the way as far west as that map goes. My grandchildren live all the way as far east as that map shows! And there's warm water beaches all around. :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:23, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Lucky you! The Atlantic is never even lukewarm.
You are not far from To Kill a Mockingbird country. So the Florida distance is pretty well equal to the Wales/England. WE seem to able to manage with just one time zone –
Just slipped in yet another dash template. Hope you have a lovely weekend. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 09:23, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Closer to The Yearling country. :-) Softlavender (talk) 12:22, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Then again, maybe not; Harper Lee grew up in Monroeville, which is pretty damn close to the FL Panhandle. Softlavender (talk) 12:27, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Good afternoon Soft Lavender, Always feels good to be aware that you are watching. Either way, you get to enjoy the wonderful Gregory Peck. Keep safe. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 17:01, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
ALMap-doton-Monroeville
Scene from the play "To Kill A Mockingbird" performed in Monroeville
Historic buildings in Monroeville

Hey Gareth! Yes, I am definitely as OCD as everyone else here, I am just not as detail oriented, which I find a marked disadvantage here. Here is a look at where Monroeville is in relation to where I am. It's almost due north and Alabama isn't that big. I have always thought we should be in Eastern time--it's especially obvious because the time-line jogs back east instead of coming straight down. Every year we try to get them to vote in year-round daylight savings time--which would in effect put us in the eastern time zone--but they say it would be too hard on the farmers--that extra hour of daylight's too hard on the crops...  :-) I thought the Yearling was set in Kentucky??? Harper Lee lived her whole life in Monroeville. Her book is one of my top ten favorites. I should say her first book now though shouldn't I? It's a picture of the era in which my mother grew up--very much the same back then everywhere. Jenhawk777 (talk) 23:33, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

I have fouled something up somewhere and I can 't figure out what I did--or didn't do. I transferred all the material on the historical Jesus out of biblical criticism and into the Historical Jesus article and one of the notes did not transfer properly and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to fix it. It's supposed to be a group note in section 4.1.1 [[85]] the second to the last sentence in the first paragraph. I left it in its last configuration--though that is my fourth try. Is the problem that there is not a Notes reflist down below? I am at my wit's end--if you could explain it I would be deeply grateful. Jenhawk777 (talk) 02:56, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Do not fret! It is still in the 'history' – go back to the article's view history and click on the date of the edit BEFORE you made that content-move. You will see a banner near the top with words similar to these
This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk | contribs) at 11:54, August 10, 2018
Copy, cut 'n' paste and carry out your move.
You cannot isolate sections when doing this so the whole article is open for editing. Hope this helps. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 08:43, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Yes, Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings moved to that area in 1928, to a little hamlet called Cross Creek, and fell in love with it. She wrote two masterpieces about the area, The Yearling (1938) and Cross Creek (1943). The latter is less well known, but very beautiful and well worth a read. Softlavender (talk) 09:28, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for that link. Very interesting. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 13:46, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for trying Gareth! Someone else came along and fixed it for me--I was thinking along right line apparently, it was because it had no reflist of notes. It's fixed now! Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:03, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
That's good, Jenny. I am away from my pc for next eight days. All the best. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 07:45, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Lycka till with whatever you're doing! That's right, I know strange foreign words too... User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:17, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you dear friend for your good wishes/Lycka till.. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 13:52, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Lydstep Halt[edit]

Hi Gareth,
Interesting page re Pembroke to Tenby railway. My first edit to Wikipedia was re Lydstep Halt earlier today.
I can appreciate that people's memories can become faulty over time and I understand that you have probably put a lot of time and effort into that page.
Is there any way you could point me to where I could find the information re Lydstep Halt's closure on 2nd January 1956.

I am 73 years old and we only had the one holiday in Tenby when I was living at home - been back a few of times since.
That holiday was definitely in August 1959 and we holidayed at Lydstep Beach Caravan Camp.
I had sent for a shed permit for Nayland and I definitely remember putting my hand out to stop the train at Lydstep Halt. I remember getting the ferry across to Neyland and showing a railway guy on the station my permit and going round the engine shed. Also I remember asking the guard on the return train at Pembroke Dock to stop at Lydstep Halt.

I still go trainspotting today although I've not been able to go round a shed (Depot) since the 90s.
best regards
Roy Webster — Preceding unsigned comment added by Webntweb (talkcontribs) 20:32, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Roy Webster,
Please do not for one moment believe that I am doubting your memory regarding your train journey stopping at Lydstep Halt.
Pembroke and Tenby Railway
Lydstep Haven

It is just that we must support our additions with at least one reference. Probably the best place to start would be your local library to attempt to trawl through the nine references at the bottom of the Pembroke and Tenby Railway article.
I have moved my WP welcome to you from your IP talk page to create User talk:Webntweb.
Keep in touch! I look forward to your reply. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 09:48, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Post script: What a coincidence! I walked a section of the Pembrokeshire Coast Path three weeks ago from Manorbier to Freshwater East. Gareth Griffith‑Jones 14:45, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Almost here ... What a triumph![edit]

Hi Gareth. Only a few days to go! There are lots of creative people producing good Dr Who videos on Youtube. This is one of my favourites and perfect as a lead in to Sunday. Enjoy. MarnetteD|Talk 18:13, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Gosh! That was powerful. Thank you M for the link.
I have copy 'n' pasted this from the Radio Times:- This year’s series of Doctor Who is unusually secretive – which is why guest star Art Malik, who plays an unknown role in this year’s second episode, is having to keep schtum about his adventures with Jodie Whittaker’s new Doctor. “Everyone in it was great. It was a lovely, lovely experience,” said Malik.
... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 18:30, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
PS The Radio Times was published entirely in-house by BBC Magazines from 1937[1][2] until 2011 when the BBC Magazines division was merged into Immediate Media Company.
I'm so glad you liked it G. I appreciate the way they include the Classic Series with the new. Thanks for your links as well. Interesting stuff. It's funny every time I read Art's name or see him in a new show my memory flies back to the apartment in Greeley that I was living in when Jewel in the Crown first aired over here. I shared a couple memories with DQ here that you might find interesting. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi again Gareth. I forgot to mention that the change that may be the most interesting (for me anyway) is that this will be the first episode without Murray Gold composing the score. His music has been such an integral and binding part of the series since its revival. I will be interested to see - er I mean hear - what Segun Akinola brings to the show but this could be a bigger change then anything else in front of, or behind, the camera. May the remaining few hours fly by. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 01:57, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi yet again Gareth. I stumbled on this treat for Star Trek aficionados last night. I think every fan should get one in their Xmas stocking - as long as it is only ONE! HeeHee MarnetteD|Talk 12:45, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Thank M for pointing out that change of composer; anticipate that Segun Akinola is unlikely to remain a redlink for long.
Not so sure though about that monster when my cursor enlarges/moves it. Roll on tomorrow evening! ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 15:31, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Here is another funny for our DW weekend G. Just saw this thread Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 59#Donna Strickland wins Nobel prize -- without enwiki article. If it had read "Donna Noble wins Strickland prize" it would have been okay since she does have an article :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 20:02, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Ha, ha! M, I just went to her article from the pump page and could not resist making a revision ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 10:36, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Well done! MarnetteD|Talk 14:16, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Thoroughly enjoyed the whole episode. Very well received in UK [86] What about in the US M? I hope you enjoyed it too. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 14:35, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

I haven't looked for viewing figures G but my sense is that it was a hit. I think JW got off to a flying start. The mix of Bradley, Tosin and Mandip is intriguing. One bummer was they shoved a lot of commercials down our throat. After a 15 minute start we got ads every five minutes - ack! Have a great week. 14:54, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
That's too bad, M. All the best ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 10:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Bad news on my doorstep ...[edit]

Hi Jenny. Got this on my BBC newsfeed this morning ... hope you will be safe. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 09:00, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Category 4--hit a couple hours ago and we didn't even get rain--it went to the east of us--but I sure do feel for those who were right in its path. Thank you for asking Gareth, it's kind of you. I have been meaning to come and say hi since you came back but I have been stuck in reference Hell on the FAC nomination for Biblical criticism. I finally finished going through them all, but if it doesn't get FA, I am not renominating it--this has not been fun. No one has challenged content--just really picky happy-to-glad type changes which drive me nuts. I will go back to writing on what interests me and enjoying lovely people like you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:16, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
What a relief to hear that you are unscathed, Jenny. Now for the clearing up. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 08:15, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Not sure if you knew...[edit]

Hi Gareth, Despite my semi retirement from Wikipedia I check in on the site from time to time and I was unsure if you knew that Daicaregos died a few months ago. I only picked up on activity on his userpage today, but I knew that you shared work on a few articles together and sent festive greetings to each other. Thought you would like to know as he was strong member of the WikiWales community. Hope I find you in good health. Yours, FruitMonkey (talk) 23:57, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

What sad news. Dai was a lovely proud Welshman. I shall miss him. Thank you for informing me.
Yes, I am enjoying good health and wish you the same. Sincerely. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 14:54, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

So gorgeous[edit]

Hell Gareth. Each day my computer brings up a random scenic pic for its wallpaper. Today it was this one. All I can say is you sure do live in a beautiful part of our pale blue dot. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:17, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes M, we have the Atlantic to vitalise our lives. I like your greeting; very American . Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 18:27, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
We aims to please :-) MarnetteD|Talk 18:28, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Veerapandiya Kattabomman (film)/archive2[edit]

Hello Gareth, been a while. Sut wyt ti? BTW, Kailash29792 and I have listed this article about a 1959 cult classic film in Tamil cinema for peer reviewing with the intention of preparing it for FAC and subsequently taking it to FA. Your constructive comments would be deeply appreciated. Thank you.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 05:01, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Da iawn, diolch. A sut ydych chi?
Now I have the article on my watchlist, it will have my attention. Wishing you a lovely weekend. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 09:59, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Diolch yn fawr. Un peth i chi! Do let me know when you post your comments.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 10:08, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Just made my first revision there. Tell me what you think. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 12:53, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

The Doctor[edit]

What happened to Dr. B? I blinked, and there he was, gone again. I emailed, but no response as yet. Tony. Tony Holkham (Talk) 21:43, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tony,
I have just switched on my pc for the first time today, so sorry for my late reply.
I am guessing that this from Catlemur had caused his sudden departure, although I now see he has had a change of heart. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 17:22, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Gareth. We can only hope things will settle down. Positive waves, eh? All the best, Tony. Tony Holkham (Talk) 17:47, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

The Godfather Part II[edit]

I believe the lead of the article The Godfather Part II should be rephrased. To go straight from "The Godfather Part II opened to mixed reviews from critics" to "It was nominated for eleven Academy Awards, and became the first sequel to win for Best Picture" without further explanation, is a tad comical, even if unintended. Grammar-Whizz (talk) 11:21, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Grammar-Whizz, I think you are correct; it needs restructuring. Please go-ahead. Cheers! ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 11:26, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 Done See this revision by Electronic data processor. Cheers! ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 11:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

All the redirects...[edit]

Hope I didn’t miss anything, or worse, screw-up something as there were a few redirects involved because of the various styles of names used. My mind now is focusing on a wild and crazy turkey dinner with family and friends, which in itself should prove interesting. mm 🦃. Atsme✍🏻📧 14:27, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Wishing you a great evening.
External videos
video icon The True Story of the First Thanksgiving, American Experience, PBS
Cheers! ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 18:13, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
All appears fine to me. A good job done. Glad to read on your Talk that you enjoyed a fun evening. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 17:56, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the kind words, Gareth, and for the link to the PBS video which I found quite interesting. Now it's time to prepare for yet another of America's rather costly and highly commercial holiday seasons. Ho-ho-ho...and some pieces of eight!! It's your money we want! xmas☃X-) 🎁 Atsme✍🏻📧 18:25, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Denham[edit]

Hi Gareth, noticed you reverted my update regarding Denham. As Denham is a commuter village into London I felt it pertinent to give a mileage from Charing Cross. (As most towns and villages in the Home Counties and commuter belt have a mileage to central London/Charing Cross). Your revert to the previous edit (Uxbridge approx 4 miles) is also factually incorrect. Is there any way that these can be corrected?! Mabbs001 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mabbs001 (talkcontribs) 13:07, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello Mabbs,
So sorry to have missed replying to your request on my Talk regarding Denham, Buckinghamshire.
I have just made this revision to the Lead: ... in the South Bucks district of Buckinghamshire, England, approximately 17 miles (27 km) from central London, 2 miles (3 km) northwest of Uxbridge and just north of junction 1 of the M40 motorway.
Please tell me your understanding of, "1.8 miles (2.9 km) northwest of Uxbridge" as my interpretation is the distance from the original village centre. Your, " lies 16.7 miles (26.9 km) west-north-west of Charing Cross, central London" is far too accurate for a Lead section. Remermber, we are not writing a gazetteer. Cheers! ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 11:32, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Gareth, no worries many thanks. Mabbs001

As Wikipedia septuagenarians, we must keep an eye on each other. By the way, you do not appear to be "automatically"signing your messages on talk pages.
Just type four tildes (~~~~) when you stop typing and this will automatically insert your username and the date. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 11:40, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Ha, Ha, I agree and thank you. By the way, although I've been a Wikipedia editor for q while I'm still trying to get used to the format and what the different symbols do and mean. I tried for ages to get my signature on my last message but will try the (Mabbs001 (talk) 01:06, 11 December 2018 (UTC)) Well it worked, thank you again.  :-) (Mabbs001 (talk) 01:08, 11 December 2018 (UTC))

There will be no stopping you now. I'm always glad to help, if I can. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 12:11, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Ha, ha, there certainly won’t now! 😊 (Mabbs001 (talk) 00:33, 12 December 2018 (UTC)) Thank you again, I may come to you for more editing advice in future! 😊 (Mabbs001 (talk) 00:36, 12 December 2018 (UTC))

Mutation[edit]

Gareth, I'm confused by this edit. As a Welsh speaker, do you think it's right? I (only a very learner) thought it was right before. Diolch! Tony Holkham (Talk) 21:43, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

No worries, Martin has answered it. Nadolig llawen! Tony Holkham (Talk) 22:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes, Tony, Martin is totally reliable. Cheers to both of you! ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 10:30, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Time To Spread A Little ...[edit]

Christmas tree worm, (Spirobranchus gigantic)

Atsme✍🏻📧 22:02, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Time To Spread A Little
Happy Holiday Cheer!!
I decorated a special kind of Christmas tree
in the spirit of the season.

What's especially nice about
this digitized version:
*it doesn't need water
*won't catch fire
*and batteries aren't required.
Wishing you a happy and prosperous New Year!!
🍸🎁 🎉🎄🎅🏻🤶🥂🍾🎊
Thank you very much for this excellent greeting, my new dear friend! ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 10:30, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Merry[edit]

Happy Christmas!
Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that

Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?"

My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 07:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello Gareth. I hope you enjoy this years card. As the events take place in your part of the planet I wanted you to be the first person to receive it. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 07:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
I am honoured, Michael, and delighted. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 10:32, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Saturnalia[edit]

Happy Saturnalia
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season. Enjoy the sounds of the season. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. 7&6=thirteen () 17:15, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Cheers, good friend! I thought you had retired. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 17:24, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

A mitten for you![edit]

Hi Gareth Griffith-Jones, Softlavender has given you a mitten!


Mittens promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better.

Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a mitten, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Softlavender (talk) 10:50, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
   

Thank you. Looks like the mitten would fit my dog, Chancer, so please, could you send another three? ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 18:18, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry, Gareth, Santa and I had only a limited supply of mittens this year, which is why you only got one. I'm afraid you'll have to be rather Dickensian and do without. Best, Softlavender (talk) 23:06, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Softlavender. Perhaps the mitten would serve as a muzzle (?). Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 12:17, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year![edit]

Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year 2019!
Dear Gareth, thank you for all the hard work and effort you put into Wikipedia. You were my first, and only, mentor, who took the time to make suggestions, and show me the way. God bless! Onel5969 TT me 12:52, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for these kind words. I reciprocate with my very best wishes for you and those dear to you. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 13:02, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year[edit]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

Hi Gareth Griffith-Jones, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas
and a very Happy and Prosperous New Year,
Thanks for all your help and thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia,

   –Davey2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 14:35, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Cheers Dave! All the best to you. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 17:08, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda[edit]

Martin, my old buddy Diolch yn fawr iawn!
... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 12:32, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas !!![edit]

CAPTAIN RAJU(T) is wishing you a Merry Christmas!

This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thank you. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 12:36, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Holidays![edit]

Happy Holidays!
Hi, Gareth! Have a happy and safe season, and a blessed new year!
Holiday cheers, --Discographer (talk) 20:40, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
And to you, my friend! Thank you... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 12:40, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Xmas[edit]

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:11, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Cheers, my friend! ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 12:44, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Holidays![edit]

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message
Thank you, John. My best wishes. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 12:46, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

We wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year 2019!
Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas, and a Happy, Glorious, Prosperous New Year! God bless!  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 16:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your cheerful greeting, good friend! I wish you and your family the compliments of the season, too!
... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 10:59, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Dymuniadau gorau ar gyfer 2019 - iechyd da[edit]

Dymuniadau gorau ar gyfer 2019 - iechyd da!!! (Hope this means what I think it does). Diolch am eich holl gefnogaeth (ditto). Tony. Tony Holkham (Talk) 15:11, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

I do like your cart, Tony. Perhaps on its way to the passenger? ... ac rwy'n dymuno 2019 heddychlon i chi! ... Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 12:07, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Gareth Griffith-Jones![edit]

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Caldey[edit]

Didn't realise you had already welcomed User:Caldey, sorry. Was I too severe? I may have to blame it on the tipple... Tony Holkham (Talk) 12:09, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

No, not at all, Tony. They have to learn our rules and I was just full of too much bon homie
Sincerely, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:46, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Diolch![edit]

Blwyddyn Newydd Dda, Gareth! Deb (talk) 12:55, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year![edit]

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.

Happy New Year![edit]

Right back at 'ya! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:43, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind good wishes for 2019. I'd meant to reply more promptly, but then I remembered it was time for lunch. It was particularly thoughtful of you to provide a translation. I draw to a juddering halt with Welsh shortly after "araf"". I reciprocate. I wish you and those whom, deservedly, you care about all that you should reasonably wish for yourselves during what remains of 2019. Plus a bit (of the good stuff). Charles01 (talk) 14:53, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Ha, ha! Thank you for the "lunch" link. Made me laugh out loud. Excellent!
Sincerely, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 15:58, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

2019[edit]


Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

Thank you for your help last year, and your good wishes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:53, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:09, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that Gerda. A genuine smile. Sad to read he died at 61. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:00, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
His son's user name is Sarritt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:26, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
January 2019
Caleta de Famara, Lanzarote
... with thanks from QAI
Thank you for a heart on Martin's page, and all around! - For a change, I can happily present someone alive by the bold link, 90 years and one day old. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:35, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, Gerda. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:56, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

A puppy for you![edit]

Hi Gareth, Just posting to wish you a safe, prosperous and happy 2019 & also thanks for all your work on Wikipedia so far.
Sincerely,
Philologia (talk) 15:20, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

How very kind to remember me. Thank you, Sue.
Sincerely, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC)


Invitation to join WikiProject Brands[edit]

Hello, Gareth Griffith-Jones.

You are invited to join WikiProject Brands, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of brands and brand-related topics.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. North America1000 20:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I have just added my details. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:02, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you kindly for joining up! North America1000 06:49, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Trwynmynachdy[edit]

Hi Gareth, sorry if I'm being a pest, but Google and I translate the name (if split into three) of this rock near Ramsey Island as thy monk's nose. What's your view? (BTW, some have said it has many consonants, but I'm beginning to know better...) Cheers, Tony. Tony Holkham (Talk) 21:38, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

You could never be a pest. Oh dear, I'm afraid I am unable to add to that. All references have it written as one word, which does not help. Sorry, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Have you spoken to this editor? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:10, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Gareth. I may have a look in some old Welsh newspapers. Cheers. Tony Holkham (Talk) 13:12, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes well I suppose if we were lucky we could re create it as a separate article, although I doubt it. Crouch, Swale (talk) 14:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

IP[edit]

'morning, Gareth, and a beautiful morning, too. It is unusual to see a "new" IP editing in such haste, but with in-depth knowledge of their subject and Wikipedia procedures, somewhat irritable in their rare edit summaries. It has a "prodigal son" feel about it. On the whole, their edits seem to be of benefit to WP articles on Wales; I wish, though, they would register and engage, as I fear as with other such phenomena they will burn out and disappear from whence they came, leaving us all mystified. What brought on this magnanimous mood? Just the sunshine, I guess. Cheers, Tony Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

You are pleased, aren't you! I cannot believe the're new. The IP Address Geolocation shows London. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:34, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
I've left a note on their talk page, but I don't expect a response. Trying to clean up Nevern after them is a little frustrating, but the good mood persists... Cheers, Tony. Tony Holkham (Talk) 23:44, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you Tony for the "thanks". Very much agree with you that our leaving notices on their Talk will change nothing. They seem to be working in a blind tunnel with regard to edit summaries. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:50, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you Tony for the edit. What about my comment just before your revision? [when?] None of this is dated. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:04, 18 January 2019 (UTC)  Done
Agreed; and thanks for your edits so it doesn't read like the plot of a soap. As for dates, the two maps aren't clear, either, as to what era they signify. The trouble is, many of the newer refs are not accessible as they stand, so information cannot be easily checked or refined. Some older ones, though, are available as pdf downloads, so some work to do there, I guess. Tony Holkham (Talk) 12:11, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Am I feeling your "magnanimous mood" is diminishing a tad? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:58, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps; "I am only an egg" (reference to WP, not Wales). T. Tony Holkham (Talk) 15:11, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm removing more of the "soap plot" ... great fun! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:27, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Now Pembroke is getting the history textbook treatment, and unsourced. Where next, I wonder? I guess it's best to leave it until the storm has passed, and then clear away the debris? Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:37, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with youI more or less took a break from WP yesterday.
It is pointless leaving messages with someone like that who rarely leaves an edit summary and, when they do, are always adversarial. Ah well ... Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:56, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
We're off again; Dungleddy now. Tony Holkham (Talk) 20:14, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
And Roose Hundred, but I see you have dealt with both. Many thanks, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:03, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
If there's still no response, including (to this), I'm not sure where we go next. Admin? I haven't experienced this before; it's a great pity because the IP is producing some interesting stuff along with the disruption. Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:19, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
I was delighted that you followed my lead in dealing with this disruptive editor in the same way that I had here.
On a more positive observation, I do not see much evidence of their returning to the articles you and I have restored. We are managing this at the moment.
All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:40, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Tony, are you happy with my revision here? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:50, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Of course... I might have said that, while it is not the county town, it gives its name to the modern county of Pembrokeshire (if this is true, and can be sourced?). Or, to put it another way, I have the tendency not to use one word when ten will do...? I don't know whether it was ever the county town (it was maybe the chief town of Penfro Cantref), but I'll see if I can find out.Tony Holkham (Talk) 14:59, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
@Gareth Griffith-Jones: Coming to a head here: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#80.5.1.159. See also User_talk:Tony_Holkham#Your_self-important_vandalism_has_got_to_stop,. and Talk:Laugharne. Tony. Tony Holkham (Talk) 13:50, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Tony! Since yesterday morning before the rugby started, this is my first visit to my pc. Well done, I read that they have a one month block set about half an hour ago.[87] Now I am going to watch England versus France, sadly on ITV—a French win will suit me nicely. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:48, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Just to draw a line under this (hopefully!), I sought admin advice earlier, which is at User_talk:Oshwah#IP_frustration. It was reassuring.
A rather emphatic rugby result. Steam-roller England are going to be hard to beat, but it will be interesting to see in a fortnight's time, eh? Tony Holkham (Talk) 20:23, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for this—I have read every word. This admin is very helpful, and I have noticed Oshwah's sensible interventions many times before.
Yes, France were humiliated. Now the match in Cardiff on the 23rd could well be the tournament decider. Wishing you a good week! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:09, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps unsurprisingly, the editor entirely misses the point of the block. A community such as WP is not the best place for a lone, uncommunicative editor. I wonder whether he will realise that. Probably better off in "blog-land".
You have a good week, too. T. Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:49, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

List of places in Pembrokeshire[edit]

Hey, Gareth, I think you've added some places in Ceredigion to this article? Cheers, Tony. Tony Holkham (Talk) 15:47, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

I've restored. Hope that's OK. Tony Holkham (Talk) 16:36, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, what an example of non compos mentis! I do apologise,Tony and thank you for reverting my four additions. Have a great Sunday! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:39, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps you were distracted? 5 mins 30 in, though, one of the finest passages in all piano music. Tony Holkham (Talk) 19:55, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Well, it was worth it; just for you to send me the link to Khatia Buniatishvili. Wonderful. A lovely beginning to my Sunday. Thank you! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 09:12, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Glad you liked it. Here is another little gem, and another of my favourites. Shame about the glam. I just closed my eyes and listened. I bought the sheet music many years ago, but it was way beyond me. Perhaps I should have bought the shoes, as well... Tony Holkham (Talk) 15:58, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Frédéric Chopin always delights. She is very talented but those legs became more and more exposed. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:00, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary[edit]

Precious
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Another year past. This happens far too quickly, it seems to me.
Many thanks for remembering, Gerda.
All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
My pleasure coming over, - I'd remember you without my table, but not the right day ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Your saying that makes me feel good. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 19:45, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Wales 21-13 England[edit]

I bet you enjoyed that match. A lot. So did I. Tony Holkham (Talk) 19:16, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

How dramatic. What an ending. What a player. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:24, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
The catch for that last try was spectacular. Two marvelous comebacks in their three matches could bode well for the prospects here and in the World Cup later this year. Enjoy your Sunday G. MarnetteD|Talk 23:29, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Congratulation you guys. Boo to England! Felt sure we would win. Rodney Baggins (talk) 10:14, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Good morning Tony, Martin, Michael, Rodney,
I'm still smiling.
We do like to take control of the second half. That always makes the win more valued ... twelve consecutive wins means Wales keep their international third place behind the All Blacks and Ireland.
Wishing all four a great Sunday! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:03, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Not a bad scoreline. The Biggar the Better, the master tactician, eh? Tony Holkham (Talk) 11:58, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
As my late wife, Imogen, would say, "Where did you sleep last night? In the knife drawer?" Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:03, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
No, I don't think I'm a cut above the rest. Knife of you to ask, though. Tang you very much. No more; I'm all blade out. Tony Holkham (Talk) 12:19, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
What sharp wit you have! Anyway, back to the exciting citations... Rodney Baggins (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
You're right, Rodney; it's no llafn matter. T. Tony Holkham (Talk) 12:43, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
OMG that's clever, cos llafn is Welsh for blade (according to Google anyway!) Rodney Baggins (talk) 12:48, 24 February 2019 (UTC)}}
I have always considered razor sharp Tony to be a cut above the rest of us as he is demonstratinging here.
Seriously, I want to acknowledge Rodney's excellent contribution to his Timeline of Welsh history project. Much appreciated. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:05, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
More good news, Tony, Martin, Michael, Rodney.
Wales receive another boost: Leigh Halfpenny made a successful return today for Scarlets, playing for the first time in more than three months. He kicked four conversions and a penalty as they defeated the Cheetahs in the Pro14 with six tries.
He played the full 80 minutes despite suffering an early knock.
Scarlets (28) 43
Cheetahs (14) 21
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:33, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Good news G! Thanks fr the update. MarnetteD|Talk 17:35, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Excellent, thanks Gareth. Hope Biggar will play as well. His inch-perfect chip-kicking will be needed against Ireland. On the latter, they didn't play well today, and were nearly beaten by Italy! Tony Holkham (Talk) 17:45, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes, Michael and Tony, he needed treatment on the pitch following that "knock" and did not take that resulting try's conversion.
For the sixth try, his kick bounced off the post. I am so happy for him. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:58, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Halfpenny is a truly inspiring player and one the best kickers Wales have ever had. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:53, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Absolutely. And my better 'alf has a crush on him, unsurprisingly. Tony Holkham (Talk) 18:01, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Martin and Tony. Just imagine if Italy had beaten Ireland. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:01, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Ireland's defence of their Six Nations crown remains alive but only just after a laboured bonus-point win over Italy.[1][2][3] 12:51, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Update on Cory Hill's injury [4] after scoring his try. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:28, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Update on Leigh Halfpenny[edit]

Good morning Michael, Tony, Martin & anyone else who's watching ... Recovery to top form. Halfpenny turned in a classy display in his second game back after concussion; he kicked five points for Scarlets after setting up their attacking platform with a run from half-way to put Nicholas over for the first try after 11 minutes and then landed the conversion off the post.[1] Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 08:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Excellent. Tony Holkham (Talk) 10:50, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Good to hear G. One good performance coming off an injury is encouraging - two is a trend that we hope continues. Can't wait for next weekend! MarnetteD|Talk 20:16, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Whew[edit]

That was one tough match G. They had to expend so much energy in defense. Rest up for next weekend :-) MarnetteD|Talk 19:37, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Ireland v France has just ended, Michael. I have just switched my pc on for the first time since before yesterday's match. It was a punishing second half and certainly was "nerve-wracking"—but I can settle for 13 wins in a row as long as it's 14 next Saturday.
Gatland says full-back Liam Williams should be fit after coming off with a shoulder injury at Murrayfield. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:08, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Watching Ireland today made me think Wales will have their hands full next week. But I think they can do it. Tony Holkham (Talk) 00:55, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
I agree TH. The team certainly is not going to be able to rest on the laurels of anything that has happened in the four previous matches. MarnetteD|Talk 01:05, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Good aftrnoon Michael and Tony,
I agree with Jeremy Guscott's analysis.[1] It is going to be a blast: Grand Slam for Wales on the day before St Patrick's Day in the Principality Stadium.
What could surpass that?! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:43, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the link G. It is gonna be an exciting Saturday!! MarnetteD|Talk 23:50, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
So much at stake,M. And here's another asset:[2] Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:22, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Miscommunication?[edit]

Hello Gareth

I saw you're a Merchant Taylors' boy - I'm Habs.

You posted a mention about 30 St Mary Axe - something about being unconstructive - not mine...

How to resolve such matters?

Cheers, 82.132.244.49 (talk) 23:56, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Good morning,
That was at 5:20 pm on 22 February 2018—over one year ago! This is the edit. You are editing on a dynamic IP address. To resolve the issue, please register.
Note: If you choose to contribute without logging in—regardless of whether you have an account—you may continue to receive further irrelevant notices. Does this help? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:17, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Woot Woot[edit]

What a game G!! They saved their best performance for last. I had a small twinge of doubt when George North went out but the team crushed that the same way they dominated Ireland. Enjoy the celebration!! MarnetteD|Talk 17:38, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

What an epic match! What an epic achievement! I was glad Ireland finally got a try. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:45, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Stunning, just stunning. Tony Holkham (Talk) 17:47, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Goodness me. That England-Scotland match was just incredible. Scotland retaining the Calcutta Cup!! What a way for the Championship to finish. Just breathtaking. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:06, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Good morning, Michael, Tony, Martin,
I am so proud.
14th straight test match win in a row. Wales are now, officially, Number 2 in the World with the All Blacks remaining in the number one spot.[1] Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:42, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Buckwheat[edit]

Hi Gareth, I see that you have undone my update to the article on Buckwheat. Firstable, thank you for collaborating, and I see you have been doing this for a while and respect your work. Would you please elaborate your decision? Would you hear me out on my reasoning, as I sincerely believe my contribution can be both useful and increase accuracy of the artcle. I await your reply. Yanggers (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:55, 17 March 2019 (UTC) p.s. I'm learning to use the Talk pages so excuse me for spreading this discussion to your personal Talk page. I will continue this discussion on the Article Talk page for "Buckwheat." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yanggers (talkcontribs) 02:03, 17 March 2019 (UTC) Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Buckwheat#Pillow_Talk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yanggers (talkcontribs) 02:29, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Good morning Yanggers,
I going to revert my edit now that you have posted this explanation here and on the article's Talk page.
I see this subject has been raised before but not expanded in Talk:Buckwheat#Upholstery fill on 9 November 2016.
Wait and see what happens next! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:55, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
post script When you add content to talk pages please be sure to sign your posts at the end of your comments.
Simply type four tildes (~), like this: ~~~~. The four tildes will be automatically replaced with your signature after you have published the changes.
Since typing four tildes adds the time and date to your resulting signature, this is the preferred option for signing your posts in discussions. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:19, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

March GOCE newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors March 2019 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the March newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since December 2018. All being well, we're planning to issue these quarterly in 2019, balancing the need to communicate widely with the avoidance of filling up talk pages. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

January Drive: Thanks to everyone for the splendid work in January's Backlog Elimination Drive. We removed copyedit tags from all of the articles tagged in our original target months of June, July and August 2018, and by 24 January we ran out of articles. After adding September, we finished the month with 8 target articles remaining and 842 left in the backlog. GOCE copyeditors also completed 48 requests for copyedit in January. Of the 31 people who signed up for this drive, 24 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Blitz: Thanks to everyone who participated in the February Blitz. Of the 15 people who signed up, 13 copyedited at least one article. Participants claimed 32 copyedits, including 15 requests. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: As of 23:39, 18 March 2019 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have completed 108 requests since 1 January and the backlog stands at 851 articles.

March Drive: The month-long March drive is now underway; the target months are October and November 2018. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Sign up here!

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List of Duty cast issues[edit]

Thanks for your thanks!

I do actually find that format of information quite helpful. But I would personally need it to be rather more focused on Main cast characters than what was suggested. Actually this show's cast list is so... volatile that its usage would need to be highly targeted - perhaps just a dozen or so individuals - otherwise it would get out of hand. I personally would hold fire on this type of display until after any possible move of the majority of the cast information to a secondary article. None of which has been decided on yet. Thoughts? :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 15:33, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for posting here.
My reaction to these recent proposals is to agree with you on pretty much all and I oppose moving the cast to yet another article. Always, we must consider the reader. How tedious to have to flip from one article to another. Much better to concentrate on improving rather than deleting. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 15:00, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Leader-board[edit]

User:Gareth_Griffith-Jones#Link_to_leader-board

Noticed your edit to this - I didn't even know that was a thing - having said that I haven't been here quite as constantly as my version now suggests. Seems I am a bit up from you based on more time - you really must have been motoring! :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 16:10, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Good evening Kevinalewis, Yes, I have been editing since June 2011. When did you start? And what is your total? I must add that I appreciate your professionalism. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:46, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Based on an older counter scheme I thoughts it was will over 99,000 (and that a few years back) however based on the page you mention it is more like 89,000+. "Be bold" seems to be the ruling dictum with most of the editors I come across, however I find one persons opinion or 'good idea' is just that! one idea. The thing I like about wikipedia is that many hand make light work and generally improve things. Not always true I know. The thing that nearly always gets me is notability, one man's notable is another's "I've never heard of them". I find this whole area rather a week spot on Wikipedia. Anyhow - cheers. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:29, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Good afternoon Kevinalewis,
Ha, ha! I see you have mirrored my link to leader-board section on your User page.
Rest assured, no royalties will be levied. Have a great weekend! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:44, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

77[edit]

Happy birthday, Gareth! I hope you have a good day. Cheers, Tony. Tony Holkham (Talk) 08:08, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Dear friend, Thank you. Joke is my dog's birthday is also in April (2008) which makes us the same age on the seven times theory.
I am hoping your back is better, having seen your editing over the past few days. All the best, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:11, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
My back feels better, thanks, but I know it isn't. I shall have to resign myself to less gardening and more cooking and bottle-washing. My dog's about the same age as yours, deaf and other ailments, but still bursting with energy (between long naps). Tony Holkham (Talk) 10:26, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
I cannot imagine my life without a dog. My eighth birthday present was an eight-week-old Pembrokeshire Corgi who was born in the county. He survived sixteen years; a dear little chap.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:35, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
I know what you mean. Sparky (a Jack Russell) has given us so much pleasure since we rescued him from the streets of Southampton in 2009; we are very lucky, as he is the friendliest dog I have ever known, and I have known a few. Tony Holkham (Talk) 10:47, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Line of Duty[edit]

Hello
Thanks for your note. You're right, I'd forgotten pings don't work that way. I'm guessing they'll look in on the discussion sometime; otherwise I can always re-ping them. Anyway, my regards, Swanny18 (talk) 21:10, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Legend of Bhagat Singh/archive1[edit]

Hello there, Gareth. Sut wyt ti? Good I hope. I've nominated this film article about the life of the Indian freedom fighter Bhagat Singh starring Ajay Devgn as the titular character. As always, your comments would be most welcome and beneficial to the overall improvement of the article. Thanks.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 08:36, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry dear friend to have not applied myself to your request but, since May 11, I have been absent from Wikipedia for most of that period. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:56, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
It has been promoted, mon ami, and thank you for your good luck wish.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 04:12, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Tres bien, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:02, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
I would however like you to comment on my PR for Kal Ho Naa Ho, the link for which is right here.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 14:16, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Again....[edit]

Explain, please. Why did you revert this? Jauerbackdude?/dude. 20:04, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Looking at the page history, seems like you may have a slight case of WP:OWN. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 20:05, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Come on, just restore the edit and admit you made a mistake. Or come up with a really good explanation on why my edit was wrong (and ignorant). Jauerbackdude?/dude. 20:17, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Your edit, At the opera house during Anthony's performance, the Pope is served poisoned tea by Archbishop Gilday and dies, is inaccurate. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:30, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough. I see your point and that my wording choice isn't clear as it makes it seem like the Pope was poisoned at the opera house. However, my point still stands, because the current text isn't correct, either as including it in the bulleted list makes it appear that the Pope's death was part of Vincent's revenge. Feel free to fix that to your satisfaction. Also, your quick reverts and crappy edit summary ("Ignorant"? Really?) aren't helpful whatsoever. I explained my intent in my edit summary, and you could have easily fixed my edit rather than reverting it twice. Then, when asked about it, you delete the question without comment. Not the best tactic for collaboration. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 13:28, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 Done Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 15:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! Jauerbackdude?/dude. 16:21, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

GOCE June newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors June 2019 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the June newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since March 2019. You can unsubscribe from our mailings at any time; see below.

Election time: Nomination of candidates in our mid-year Election of Coordinators opened on 1 June, and voting will take place from 16 June. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here.

June Blitz: Our June blitz will soon be upon us; it will begin at 00:01 on 16 June (UTC) and will close at 23:59 on 22 June (UTC). The themes are "nature and the environment" and all requests.

March Drive: Thanks to everyone for their work in March's Backlog Elimination Drive. We removed copyedit tags from 182 of the articles tagged in our original target months October and November 2018, and the month finished with 64 target articles remaining from November and 811 in the backlog. GOCE copyeditors also completed 22 requests for copyedit in March; the month ended with 34 requests pending. Of the 32 people who signed up for this drive, 24 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

April Blitz: Thanks to everyone who participated in the April Blitz; the blitz ran from 14 to 20 April (UTC) inclusive and the themes were Sports and Entertainment. Of the 15 people who signed up, 13 copyedited at least one article. Participants claimed 60 copyedits. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: As of 04:36, 3 June 2019 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have completed 267 requests since 1 January. The backlog of tagged articles stands at 605 articles.

May Drive: During the May Backlog Elimination Drive, Guild copy-editors removed copyedit tags from 191 of the 192 articles tagged in our original target months of November and December 2018, and January 2019 was added on 22 May. We finished the month with 81 target articles remaining and a record low of 598 articles in the backlog. GOCE copyeditors also completed 24 requests for copyedit during the May drive, and the month ended with 35 requests pending. Of the 26 people who signed up for this drive, 21 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

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Tweaking[edit]

;-) Atsme Talk 📧 16:05, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Rainy day[edit]

I've been indulging in a bit of tv fantasy-time...a marathon actually...watching Outlander. Very entertaining but not quite Shakespeare or Merlin. ^_^ Atsme Talk 📧 19:11, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Diana Gabaldon is new to me. Looks brilliant. Thanks for the info'... hope you have a lovely Sunday! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:51, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Gareth and Atsme. FYI the main character in Outlander is named Jamie in honor of Jamie from Dr Who. See paragraph four here Frazer Hines#Doctor Who for more info. Frazer had a guest role in the Wentworth Prison episode of the first season of Outlander :-) Cheers to you both. MarnetteD|Talk 17:31, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Now that's an interesting bit of trivia, indeed. Thank you, MarnetteD. Atsme Talk 📧 17:35, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
So, not new to you, my good friend. Great to hear from you and my much newer friend. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
So good to hear from you as well G. Romance novels are not my usual reading fare so I was a little leery of the series to begin with. The connection to DW did spur me on to give it a try. As I progressed through the first season I got caught up in the story and the acting is excellent throughout. Later seasons have also been well done. Only a couple months to go to the World Cup that really matters :-) Many of the matches will be on in the wee hours of the morning my time so I am grateful for the DVR! Goooooo Wales!!!! MarnetteD|Talk 17:59, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
you may not have noticed, but I have replied below in Happy Birthday JP too. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Happy Birthday JP[edit]

Hello again Gareth. In more Dr Who news today is the 100th anniversary of Jon Pertwee's birth! Here is a nice interview with Sean. Being the child of any of the actors playing the Dr would be amazing. With Jon's love of gadgets Sean's youth must have been a real treat. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:31, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

What a treat! Thank you for that link. Five minutes of such value. It ran on into this! My favourite Doctor, as you know. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Very nice that they combined the various interviews together. A week or so ago I was thinking that Graham has had his beard for five or six years now so it was fun to see him before the whiskers :-) I love that Gloria Estefan knew about the show. I remember that, on the episode that featured Bradley Cooper, Lady Gaga and Jodie Whitaker, Lady G new more about the show than Graham! MarnetteD|Talk 18:10, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

A final check[edit]

As a contributor at Staffordshire Bull Terrier, I thought you might like to give it a quick read, and participate in the discussion on the TP directly above the GA Review section. I think all the challenges have been tended but I may have missed something, so whenever you get a chance see what changes have been proposed and if anything else needs to get done. Atsme Talk 📧 02:41, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

RE: Fourth film[edit]

That's ok, I reverted it because I thought it was a vandalism. I'm sorry for that. Happy editing :) --Mazewaxie 11:04, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Mazewaxie Thanks for that. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:06, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Just something I wanted to send you to show my appreciation for your work here on Wikipedia! Mazewaxie 16:16, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you Mazewaxie for those kind words. It is always therapeutic to receive affirmation. Best wishes! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:45, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Hypothesis[edit]

The karate club protects Saundersfoot against uncharitable cheese. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:37, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Excellent observation. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 09:20, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Wales are number 1 in World Rugby[edit]

On Monday morning, when the next world rankings are released officially, Warren Gatland's men will sit at the summit for the first time since World Rugby introduced the ranking system in 2003.
It also ends New Zealand's uninterrupted 10 years at the top, despite the All Blacks' 36-0 victory over Australia earlier on Saturday.
Dan Biggar's willingness to put his body on the line for his country and sealed his deserved man-of-the-match award.
Leigh Halfpenny struck the decisive penalty on his return to the Wales side after an injury-ravaged year.[88].
Looking good for next month! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:56, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Excellent news, isn't it? Good match, too. Tony Holkham (Talk) 19:07, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

WikiProject Dogs[edit]

Hi, Gareth - hope all is well on your end, and that you will find some time to participate more at Project Dogs. We need you - and could actually use more excellent editors with experience. Atsme Talk 📧 13:51, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Good morning! Yes, all is well with me but I am trying to devote less time on WP. I shall try to help you on the project in any way I can. Hope the weekend goes well for you. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 06:51, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

We need more editors like you![edit]

Tribble Award
There were times I was ready to call it quits, and find other ways to occupy my spare time.
And then along came the magical bright spots of true collaborative editing,
correcting the imbalance and reminding me of the many good things about editing WP.
You are one of those magical bright spots ☀, Gareth Griffith-Jones.
Thank you for all you do and have done to make collaboration an enjoyable experience.
Atsme Talk 📧 16:21, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
You are such a good person. I feel privileged to know you. Thank you for this post. Have a lovely weekend ... Hurricane Dorian will not reach you, will it? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:09, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Hurricane Dorian is not a threat to Texas but I have friends in Port St. Lucia where the eye of the storm is headed. My eye has been on storm trackers. Be well, GGJ. Happy editing! Atsme Talk 📧 17:37, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Llangollen article[edit]

Hylô Gareth

Thanks for inviting my comments on the singing of Calon Lân in the House of Commons. Perhaps you would care to take a look at the last few edits of the Llangollen article, and see what you think.----Ehrenkater (talk) 00:23, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

I have restored your version with the edit summary,
Reverted to last revision by Ehrenkater: His visit does not qualify him as being notable to Llangollen. Refer to Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/Settlements: Article structure#Notable people says, "names of notable people born or residing in the locality."
I thank you for drawing my attention to the issue. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:51, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
... and goes on to say, "Include only people with a Wikipedia article." Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Also see Denbigh: Revision history. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:12, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

September 2019 GOCE Newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors September 2019 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the September newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since June 2019.

June election: Reidgreg was chosen as lead coordinator, and is being assisted by Baffle gab1978, Miniapolis, Tdslk, and first-time coordinator Twofingered Typist. Jonesey95 took a respite after serving for six years. Thanks to everyone who participated!

June Blitz: From 16 to 22 June, we copy edited articles on the themes of nature and the environment along with requests. 12 participating editors completed 35 copy edits. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

July Drive: The year's fourth backlog-elimination drive was a great success, clearing all articles tagged in January and February, and bringing the copy-editing backlog to a low of five months and a record low of 585 articles while also completing 48 requests. Of the 30 people who signed up, 29 copyedited at least one article, a participation level last matched in May 2015. Final results and awards are listed here.

August Blitz: From 18 to 24 August, we copy edited articles tagged in March 2019 and requests. 12 participating editors completed 26 copy edits on the blitz. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: As of 03:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors had processed 413 requests since 1 January. The backlog of tagged articles stood at 599 articles, close to our record month-end low of 585.

Requests page: We are experimenting with automated archiving of copy edit requests; a discussion on REQ Talk (permalinked) initiated by Bobbychan193 has resulted in Zhuyifei1999 writing a bot script for the Guild. Testing is now underway and is expected to be completed by 3 October; for this reason, no manual archiving of requests should be done until the testing period is over. We will then assess the bot's performance and discuss whether to make this arrangement permanent.

September Drive: Our current backlog-elimination drive is open until 23:59 on 30 September (UTC) and is open to all copy editors. Sign up today!

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Baffle gab1978, Miniapolis, Reidgreg, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist.

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GOCE December 2019 Newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors December 2019 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the December 2019 GOCE newsletter, an update of Guild happenings since the September edition. Our Annual Report should be ready in late January.

Election time: Nominations for the election of a new tranche of Guild coordinators to serve for the first half of 2020 will be open from 1 to 15 December. Voting will then take place and the election will close on 31 December at 23:59 UTC. Positions for Guild coordinators, who perform the important behind-the-scenes tasks that keep our project running smoothly, are open to all Wikipedians in good standing. We welcome self-nominations so please consider nominating yourself if you've ever thought about helping out; it's your Guild and it doesn't run itself!

September Drive: Of the thirty-two editors who signed up, twenty-three editors copy edited at least one article; they completed 39 requests and removed 138 articles from the backlog, bringing the backlog to a low of 519 articles.

October Blitz: This event ran from 13 to 19 October, with themes of science, technology and transport articles tagged for copy edit, and Requests. Sixteen editors helped remove 29 articles from the backlog and completed 23 requests.

November Drive: Of the twenty-eight editors who signed up for this event, twenty editors completed at least one copy edit; they completed 29 requests and removed 133 articles from the backlog.

Our December Blitz will run from 15 to 21 December. Sign up now!

Progress report: From September to November 2019, GOCE copy editors processed 154 requests. Over the same period, the backlog of articles tagged for copy editing was reduced by 41% to an all-time low of 479 articles.

Request archiving: The archiving of completed requests has now been automated. Thanks to Zhuyifei1999 and Bobbychan193, YiFeiBot is now archiving the Requests page. Archiving occurs around 24 hours after a user's signature and one of the templates {{Done}}, {{Withdrawn}} or {{Declined}} are placed below the request. The bot uses the Guild's standard "purpose codes" to determine the way it should archive each request so it's important to use the correct codes and templates.

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It’s that time of year![edit]

Christmas tree worm, (Spirobranchus gigantic)

Atsme Talk 📧 18:05, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Time To Spread A Little
Happy Holiday Cheer!!
I decorated a special kind of Christmas tree
in the spirit of the season.


What's especially nice about
this digitized version:
*it doesn't need water
*won't catch fire
*and batteries aren't required.

Have a very Merry Christmas - Happy Hanukkah‼️
and a prosperous New Year!!
🍸🎁 🎉
Lovely greeting. The first one.
You were the first to post a Christmas card here 12 months ago. Thank you very much! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 19:40, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers[edit]

Damon Runyon's short story "Dancing Dan's Christmas" is a fun read if you have the time. Right from the start it extols the virtues of the hot Tom and Jerry

This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true.

No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well MarnetteD|Talk 17:06, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Gareth. We are in New York for this years card rather than Wales but I still wanted you to be the first to receive it.
Hello Michael, I am honoured and delighted. Thank you for this. All best wishes, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:10, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Festive greetings[edit]


Gareth - wishing you the very best as we near the end of another decade, and let's hope for good things in that misty region before us that we call the future, eh? Tony. Tony Holkham (Talk) 13:11, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Tony. Yes, there is so much anticipated change; hoping it will be for the best for you and me. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:50, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers[edit]

Merry Christmas, Gareth Griffith-Jones!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. And for all the help you've thrown my way over the years, and my original WP mentor. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity.
Onel5969 TT me 18:51, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
What a beautiful greeting and your generous message is very much appreciated. Wishing you and yours all the best for 2020 Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:50, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

God Jul och Gott Nytt År![edit]

Please enjoy these messages from our readers! And nevermind the shameless re-gifting, plagiarism is flattery, or something like that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:14, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Celebrating the shortest day. (Photograph was taken at 15.51, during a sunset sequence on December 19 2009, close to the winter solstice) with a cheeky robin redbreast.
You are spoiling me. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:34, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy Holidays![edit]

Happy Holidays!
Hi, Gareth! Have a happy and safe season, and a blessed new year!
Holiday cheers, --Discographer (talk) 23:56, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Your message is much appreciated. Thank you for your kind words.
Merry Christmas! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:21, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Very Merry Christmas[edit]

Merry Christmas Gareth Griffith-Jones

Hi Gareth Griffith-Jones, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas
and a very happy and prosperous New Year,
Thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia this past year,
   –Davey2010talk 00:45, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Love the shoes. Hoping I shall not have to wear them! Always good to hear from you Dave. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:27, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings[edit]

00:29, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Bill. Good to receive your greeting. Trust all is well in Canada. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 15:35, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings[edit]

What a lovely greeting. Have not got round to doing mine yet this year, but I promise you one for the New Year. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 15:43, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, glad you liked it, I loved these pics of the pets in snow. The cat by the way is a breed known as a Norwegian Forest Cat - quite large fellows. Heh, I confess sending these cards on WP is about the extent of my "holiday-ing" this year. Shearonink (talk) 18:05, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Be well at Christmas[edit]

Have a WikiChristmas and a PediaNewYear

A special Welsh Christmas greeting. Be well. Keep well. Have a lovely Christmas. SilkTork (talk) 12:28, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the Laverbread and your kind message. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 15:49, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2020!

Hello Gareth Griffith-Jones, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020.
Happy editing,

dawnleelynn(talk) 17:23, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Thank you Dawn for this excellent Christmas card. Wishing you all the best for 2020. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 07:09, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda[edit]

Thank you Martin for this splendid Christmas card.
In the year, twenty, twenty, Yn y flwyddyn, ugain ar hugain ... [89] ... Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:32, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Ooh groovy! Yes I remember that one. A big hit for Jones and Evans! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:30, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

A Joyous Yuletide to you![edit]

Christmas card by Louis Prang, showing a group of anthropomorphized frogs parading with banner and band.
Carole of the Bells by Pentatonix


Hello GGJ, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2020.
Happy editing,
7&6=thirteen () 20:41, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers Stan! All the best for you and yours! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:01, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry and blessed Christmas...[edit]

...and if it took Boo Radley to bring me here to wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and the happiest of New Years, God bless him everyone (to mix a few metaphors in a pot of soup and a Christmas goose). Randy Kryn (talk) 12:19, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Ha, ha! Well said Randy! Happy Christmas and a good 20 20 from another italicisor! Note the British English spelling. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:29, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year[edit]

Happy New Year!
Hello Gareth Griffith-Jones:

Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels?

Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters.

CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 01:20, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Happy New Year elves}} to send this message
Thank you, Cap'n, and I hope 2020 is good for us. Enjoy yourself in Turkey. Keep safe. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 10:38, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Welsh Wildlife Centre[edit]

You may be interested in this. Cheers, T. Tony Holkham (Talk) 19:35, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I am. I have given my support. I note that the instigator has just been given a 31 hours block for disruptive editing Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 20:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors 2019 Annual Report[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors 2019 Annual Report

Our 2019 Annual Report is now ready for review.

Highlights:

  • Overview of Backlog-reduction progress (a record low backlog!);
  • Summary of Drives, Blitzes, and the Requests page;
  • Automated archiving of requests;
  • Membership news and results of elections;
  • Annual leaderboard;
  • Plans for 2020.
– Your Guild coordinators: Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, Reidgreg, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist.
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(Another) Precious anniversary[edit]

Precious
Seven years!

and still! - Today, I brought a bird to the Main page, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:26, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Don't the years just fly by! Thank you, Gerda, for remembering and for this link. All the best! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:20, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon[edit]

Hi. The Wikipedia:The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon is planned for March 2020, a contest/editathon to eliminate as many stubs as possible from all 134 counties. Amazon vouchers/book prizes are planned for most articles destubbed from England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland and Northern Ireland and whoever destubs articles from the most counties out of the 134. Sign up on page if interested in participating, hope this will prove to be good fun and productive, we have over 44,000 stubs!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:21, 4 February 2020 (UTC) Oh well, never mind. Perhaps User:Dr. Blofeld/Timeline of jazz history is interesting to you!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:29, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Sorry that I did not get back to you on this.
I thought of you yesterday evening whilst watching the first episode of Stewart Copeland's new documentary, Guitar, drum and bass, on BBC Four.
Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:21, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Great guy, funny relationship he has with Sting!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:28, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes, his WP article is very comprehensive. Have you watched last night's documentary? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:33, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Didn't see it no, I'll have to watch it on iPlayer.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:13, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

IP tantrums[edit]

Hi, just to let you know, I reported the abusive and disruptive IPv editor on the HS2 article to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents and his network has been blocked for 72 hours. I am sorry you had to endure abuse from someone hiding behind a changing IP address. If it recurs, feel free to report them. Hopefully we'll get a bit of peace, though I'm sure he's going to return to have another public hissy fit ere long. All the best Cnbrb (talk) 09:36, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Good afternoon Cnbrb.
Thank you for doing that and for letting me know. I am grateful for the considerable support that you gave me on the article's Talk page. I knew that any correspondence from me would just add fuel to their diatribe.
Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:20, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

GOCE March newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors March 2020 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the March newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since December 2019. All being well, we're planning to issue these quarterly in 2020, balancing the need to communicate widely with the avoidance of filling up talk pages. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

Election results: There was little changeover in the roster of Guild Coordinators, with Miniapolis stepping down with distinction as a coordinator emeritus while Jonesey95 returned as lead coordinator. The next election is scheduled for June 2020 and all Wikipedians in good standing may participate.

January Drive: Thanks to everyone for the splendid work, completing 215 copy edits including 56 articles from the Requests page and 116 backlog articles from the target months of June to August 2019. At the conclusion of the drive there was a record low of 323 articles in the copy editing backlog. Of the 27 editors who signed up for the drive, 21 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

February Blitz: Of the 15 editors who signed up for this one-week blitz, 13 completed at least one copy edit. A total of 32 articles were copy edited, evenly split between the twin goals of requests and the oldest articles from the copy-editing backlog. Full results are here.

March Drive: Currently underway, this event is targeting requests and backlog articles from September to November 2019. As of 18 March, the backlog stands at a record low of 253 articles and is expected to drop further as the drive progresses. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Help set a new record and sign up now!

Progress report: As of 18 March, GOCE copyeditors have completed 161 requests in 2020 and there was a net reduction of 385 articles from the copy-editing backlog – a 60% decrease from the beginning of the year. Well done and thank you everyone!

Election reminder: It may only be March but don't forget our mid-year Election of Coordinators opens for nominations on 1 June. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here.

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, Reidgreg, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist

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