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Anarchyte, thank you for renaming template {{Basketball at the 2015 Pan American Games}} to a more clear name. Please note, however, that in such cases a back reference via parameter |name= (navbox doc, sidebar doc) also should be updated. Example: Special:Diff/970802926. —⁠andrybak (talk) 14:05, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Removal of Extended Confirmer

Could I know why did you remove my Extened Confirm privilege? WeTalkWiki 09:47, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@WeTalkWiki: You made continuous small edits in large batches to articles to artificially raise your edit count. This counteracts the entire reason the permission exists. Anarchyte (talkwork) 16:20, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
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Pending changes-- reverts

Hi there. Thanks for addressing why I fail to be a reviewer on pending changes for now. You mentioned that some of my reverts were "questionable." Can you clarify what kind of reverts I do that are questionable? As far as I'm concerned I have not made much reverts, and all of my reverts were quite reasonable. Anyway, could you give me some examples? Thanks, from GeraldWL 17:11, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Gerald Waldo Luis: On a second look-over I've realised that I was wrong with my reason for declining your request. As it stands, the only bad revert in August was this, where you re-added unsourced listcruft. However I think the second part of the rationale still stands; I'd like to see some more experience with counter-vandalism before granting. Cheers, Anarchyte (talkwork) 05:16, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Anarchyte, thanks for noting! I initially thought, during the revert, that a few examples of those tourism things were okay. I'll come back once I feel like it. And cheers! GeraldWL 05:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

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Tooth and Tail

Tooth and Tail is a real-time strategy video game developed and published by the indie development team Pocketwatch Games, loosely based on a design by founder Andy Schatz. It was released in September 2017 for Windows, MacOS, Linux, and PlayStation 4. The game is set in a society of anthropomorphic animals during a time of severe food shortage. The player assumes the role of a commander of an army of animals, and begins by choosing six units out of a pool of twenty to use during the game. The goal is to build structures and create units with which to destroy the enemy's resources. This screenshot of the game illustrates its heads-up display, along with various structures and units in a desert landscape.

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C'est la vie. Anarchyte (talkwork) 16:43, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

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Your decision seems biased.

Looking upon your edit history the edit you made by commenting "not done" on my pending changes reviewer request and the previous edit is about 7 minutes. Considering you took some time by moving from Requests for permissions/Page mover to Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Pending changes reviewer, and then taking time to read the comment of @UncleBubba and also comment by @Prahlad balaji, then responding them would have taken about 3-5 mins. So, it makes me wonder that your decision to not give me the right for "Pending changes reviewer" was solely based on the comment left by UncleBubba and not by my contribution history of combating vandalism and majority of productive edits(which exceeds any unproductive ones) Looking forward to hearing from you on this matter. Thank you! Angus1986 TALK 12:13, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Couple points to clear up here. Anarchyte read my reply too, and then only did he make his decision. Pending changes review involves correcting edits of people who happen to have bad grammar, and Anarchyte doesn't think you have the grammar skills for that (no personal attack, just what Anarchyte meant). UncleBubba did not say to deny your permission; they simply said to grant it as a trial or something like that. PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•AC) This message was left at 14:57, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
"Pending changes review involves correcting edits of people who happen to have bad grammar" ...???? Seriously?

@Prahlad balaji please look this up [[1]]. My grammar is good enough, and there is no mention of having a grammar knowledge in Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes He/She was clearly biased for not giving permission even though I was qualified. I am just waiting for their reply. If it is not satisfactory I will take this to AN/I. Angus1986 TALK 15:52, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

@Angus1986: It is at the reviewing admin's discretion as to whether to grant any permission. I fail to see why I should grant you a permission relating to content when there's a long discussion about content-related errors on your talk page from less than a week ago. I am not, and did not, make any statements about your grammar skills; rather I took issue with the situation, especially given experienced users and admins called the edits unhelpful and disruptive (and threatened possible blocks). I noted in my decline reasoning that being proficient at countervandalism is not the only requirement for PCR, meaning that once a possible problem in another area appeared, I did not need to check your reverts as thoroughly as I would have with someone that doesn't have any advanced permissions. In regard to the timing, patrolling those two PM requests took very little time at all because of both users' short/old move log (check my comments on their requests). Additionally, I usually have multiple permission request pages open at once (PM, PCR, and RB, typically), and opening and reviewing 20 diffs at random with a quick spot check of their talk page for recent disputes doesn't take much more than 5-10 minutes each. Anarchyte (talkwork) 17:10, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
There you go that's where the bias started, the discussion was almost 11 days old, the new recent discussion was about the false accusation by Mandruss that I was a sock puppet for another user. You didn't go through the talk but instead looked at the length. There was no admin involved, instead Mandruss complained against me for Edit Warring and admin Salvio declined his complaint because I was innocent. Instead, he advised me that he finds some edits to unhelpful too, so that's how the admin was involved, everything was resolved by 1st September. The latter discussion was on sock puppets, and then me falsely accusing someone for sock puppet. Then the current discussion is just UncleBubba just calling on me for the old edits which I edit on 29-31st August. I reverted all of my edits on 1st September and everything was resolved then. So, you claiming an active dispute and threats of blocks in the last week doesn't make sense. Angus1986 TALK 17:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
@Angus1986: I'm not sure how you can say "there was no admin involved" and then name an involved admin. Salvio giuliano said this: some of your changes are unhelpful or even straight-out disruptive. [...] if you do not stop [...] making contentious changes or introducing errors into articles, I'll be blocking you for disruption. I'm not sure what else there is to say except for that I am not going to be granting you the pending changes reviewer permission and I doubt other admins would at this time either. Take my advice at WP:PERM/PCR: wait a month and reapply. Anarchyte (talkwork) 17:44, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
The admin only got involved indirectly after the false accusation of Edit Warring, and I abided his statement which was done on 31st August and I stopped it by that time. So you when to call it as last week then I don't know what to say. I don't want pending changes reviewer, for now, I will re-apply later, I am sure I will get it, but what you did is unfair to me. Just because of the comment of UncleBubba It hurt my feelings. Just because of his personal opinion it affected your decision. Angus1986 TALK 17:50, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
@Angus1986: Please do not ping me in a conversation unless you want me to respond. Since you've already told me you don't want to hear from me, is your use of the {{u}} template (above) another example of your unwillingness to learn how things work before you use them?
Anarchyte I apologize for cluttering your Talk page. — UncleBubba T @ C ) 17:53, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Angus1986, to be fair, while I did say you were not edit warring, I also clarified that I found some of your edits inappropriate or even disruptive (off the top of my head, there were at least two cases where you inadvertently changed the meaning of the sentence, as a result of your edit, the "port/part" and "instead of/instead" changes). I do think you have good intentions and are willing to improve Wikipedia; however, I also think that sometimes you are not careful enough and end up messing up. I did not see your request for PCR, but had I seen it, I would probably have it declined on the grounds that you still need to gain more experience and to show that you have learnt to edit more carefully. Salvio 21:17, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
But @Salvio giuliano Don't you think it is unfair to judge the entire profile based on the few bad edits made between 29-31st August. I am not saying I am perfect, I even make mistakes occasionally but they are not the one like you have noticed during 29-31st August. You can check my recent edits, I am not asking you to grant me any permissions either, I will learn more and be patient. But just because of that one incident everyone thinks that I am just a bad editor which is quite discouraging and hurts my feelings. :( Angus1986 TALK 21:24, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

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Hello Anarchyte,

You granted rollback to this user yesterday, and today I had to give them a stern warning for some unacceptable behavior. I also blocked their friend for blatant edit warring. Please take a look at the edits in question and the discussion on the two user talk pages. The good news is that they are contrite. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:04, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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Hi @Anarchyte::The temporary user rights you provided to me, such as rollbacker here and pending changes reviewer here, have expired. I request you to grant me these rights permanently. After reviewing my activities in this period.. Thanks -- Padavalam🌂  ►  09:21, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

@Padavalamkuttanpilla: At this time, I don't think you are ready for permanent permissions. You haven't been warning the users you revert unless it's done automatically through Huggle or a similar tool. There are also a bunch of instances where you've misused rollback. For instance, this is not vandalism and this should have had an edit summary. I'm going to hold off on granting you the permission for now. I'd like you to spend more time undoing edits again to force you to use edit summaries and to give you more time to consider the edit you're reverting. Your next request should be placed at WP:PERMS. Anarchyte (talkwork) 12:46, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Rollback request

I see that you have canceled my application. Please tell me why I do not deserve this degree and what I should do to get this rank "rollback". Thanks (Thepesar (talk) 17:57, 2 October 2020 (UTC))

@Thepesar: For the same reason as your previous three requests. Anarchyte (talkwork) 02:47, 3 October 2020 (UTC)


Please forgive me, I did not know that I should not send several requests at the same time, but at the moment I just want this rank "rollback" and I ask you to trust me and grant me this access. I have revarted more than 600 vandalism and have been over 1 year on wikipedia that you can check from my profile. Thank You (Thepesar (talk) 06:19, 3 October 2020 (UTC))

Thepesar with the incompetence you're displaying all over Wikipedia. I don't believe you're at the level yet to be granted rollback or any PERMS at this time. Sorry. —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 07:58, 3 October 2020 (UTC)


I think you are User:Nnadigoodluck insulting some users and sure me. I came to Wikipedia a year later and I still did not know a series of rules, but I try to be better every day. Thanks Thepesar (talk) 17:11, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Regarding the issue's you raised at my request for Rollback

Could you explain why you had problems with [2] and [3]? You mention that those should be reverted as vandalims not good faith; however in both cases they were as vandalism only under an specific subset of vandalism. Reverting all edits as pure vandalism is not only unclear but also an misuse of Redwarn per its page. Thanks in advance, Asartea Talk | Contribs 13:17, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Asartea: For Zuni, there is no chance an entire population disappears. This is obvious vandalism, not a good-faith edit that failed to supply a source. For Crown prince, it's vandalism because of not only the content removal, but changes like "dependinag", "Swedefright", "grandsonf by malsddle Efasta". Sure, you could revert this one as removal of content, but its unlikely there was no malicious intent behind this edit. These are just some of the reverts I found during a spot-check of your edits. There may be more examples of changes that toe the line between vandalism and AGF, but it is important for a rollbacker to be able to distinguish between them. Anarchyte (talkwork) 14:51, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

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Rollback declined

Hello Anarchyte, As you declined my rollback request here. I take in as positive intake. But here I would like to highlight the issue which I faced during my trial period, my xtools was not working so I didn't take note of my rollback action which I did. I apologise for my mistake, I never intend to do so. I'm aware of the rollback policy. Can you please elaborate your comment which you left on the rollback page please, I will surely work on it and fix my mistake. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 14:24, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

@C1K98V: I don't see how xtools having issues would impact your use of rollback. Your current issue is that you undo edits without correct edit summaries; every link I listed is an example of an incorrect summary. Anarchyte (talkwork) 14:52, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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Thank you, L235. Means a lot :) Anarchyte (talkwork) 02:06, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

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A question

Was pending-changes reviewer right granted to User:Outlander07 ([4][5]) so that he can blatantly revert without explanation? Violating WP:REVEXP and WP:FIES, and triggering edit-war without explaining the change in edit summary or in talk page, see history at Kalaripayattu. He has been previously accused of misconduct in the same page (from this SPI, apparently he is a pro-Nair and anti-Ezhava/Thiyya casteist and promoter of Hinduism - it can be seen at Kalaripayattu too [6]). Do you think he is qualified to posses this right? (let me ping MusikBot too) 2409:4073:D:2E0C:449D:CCB1:2C89:AF70 (talk) 19:55, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

The content they reverted was poorly written and added by a user with a username that mirrored the topic ("Kalari Poothara"). As for the sources, this cites Wikipedia and YouTube, this doesn't mention Kalari Poothara, this is entirely unrelated, etc, this is a duplicate, this looks unreliable and has no "about us" page, etc. It's as though the user that added this content googled "Kalari" and copied the first fifteen links that came up. I'll note that Outlander asked to discuss this dispute with you on the talk page, yet no discussion has started. In my experience, users that disagree with a revert usually talk about it instead of requesting the removal of permissions. You haven't even reached out to him on his user talk page. Why don't you start a discussion on the article's talk page, ping them, and then see where it goes. Anarchyte (talkwork) 05:34, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Don't justify misconduct. He was obliged, but not only he failed to put an explanation in edit summary (especially when it was disputed) but also refused to discuss the matter in talk page, even after I had specifically told him to do so in the first place. Rather, he chose to edit war with further revert. Is this the behavior a Wikipedia editor should posses? He has more obligation than me to start discussion. Beside, I was talking about my edits ([7][8][9][10]), where is the explanation for reverting this? If Kalari Poothara's edits were the issue then it should have specifically removed. Next time I am taking this to ANI attention. 2409:4073:4E94:C4C9:8D70:7EF0:E801:7D7D (talk) 17:29, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
I do agree that a mass revert like that should have carried a better explanation than simply "Reverting back to last good version". This is definitely an edit dispute, though, and you're well within your right to take this to ANI if you really think it's necessary. However, before you do let's ping Outlander here so that they can speak for themselves. @Outlander07:. Anarchyte (talkwork) 03:48, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I apologize in the first place for being late in intervening in the dispute. Edits that have no basis or citations will be removed, If I had not done it, someone else would have done it. My intention there was to remove the unfounded and reach a consensus or to make changes to the scratch. I could not go ahead with it then because of my changed schedules. Even before I came to the article, this gentleman's war had already begun, and it was obvious at a glance. Reverting edits and saying that verified sources on the page are Cherry picked because they do not support his POV. Even calling me a racist, pro-nair ,anti- ezhava. Definitely, the above guy is trying to be a refined POV pusher.Outlander07@talk 16:59, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Anarchyte I suspect there is sockpuppetry involved like Kalari Poothara. The very same guy or a group keeps making disruptive or unsourced edits and accusing me by pointing unfounded evidence at WP:SPI. The recent investigation against me was of this kind. Outlander07@talk 17:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I’m inclined to support Outlander07 in this dispute.
As anyone can see in the Kalaripayattu page statistics, I have essentially been one of main editors and maintainers of the page.
From grammar and spelling mistakes, to improving wording/phrasing and adding sources, all the way to reverting edits made by Tamil nationalists, Pro-Ezhava, Pro-Nair, and other politically motivated users, I’ve been active in the maintenance of this page for the past year, and have an undeniable role in making the page more organized and legible, all while cleaning up edits and changes that are made by users who do not have English as their first language in order to better incorporate the information they provide into the article.
In my past year of experience with this page, Outlander07 has never caused any issues for the page other than reverting vandalism and POV based editing like the kinds I mentioned above. I have never seen him promoting hatred against any group mentioned in the article. On top of this, the article does not have any special leanings towards Nairs or Ezhava groups in India. Kalaripayattu was utilized by both groups and still is today. He has been pretty responsible and fair with handling pending changes since the page protection level on the page was increased.
In the end, I completely agree with Outlander07 that this anonymous user is trying to act like a refined POV pusher.
He has declared that verifiable sources from the official websites of governing bodies that are literally mentioned in the article to be “cherry picked,” and has not provided any counter sources to verify his claims of cherry picking.
He claims that any source that does not support his POV is invalid, yet provides no source of his own to justify HIS reverts or edits.
Also, it is worth noting that this anonymous user, despite his claims and citations of Wikipedia’s policies and rules, is in direct violation of them himself.
He has a record of not only being banned multiple times for disruptive editing (with one temporary ban which is currently active) but also has a record of block evasion.
The full record of this user’s ban history and block evasion can be seen below:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3A2409%3A4073%3A0%3A0%3A0%3A0%3A0%3A0%2F34&type=block
Prior to him, no one in the past year or so that I have been active on the page has declared anything on the page to be massively inaccurate without providing substantial evidence. For those that have provided sufficent evidence, I have made the necessary changes to the article to keep the article as orderly, informative and accurate as possible.
I find it difficult to take a block evading, anonymous individual with multiple edit bans to his name seriously, regardless of who he pings.
It is also worth noting that he appears to have his OWN political motivations behind his editing.
While he accuses Outlander07 of being “Pro-Nair” and “Anti-Ezhava,” he himself appears to be on the opposite end of the spectrum, and appears to have a “Pro-Ezhava” stance, which in turn, shows in his editing.
He has a habit of adding the word “Ezhava” or “Thiyya” on various articles, without providing any additional sources.
While he may have a point on a few things regarding wording, given his bad behavioral record, lack of sources for his own reverts and edits, his accusation of others regarding sources while not providing his own, his anonymous IP, and what appears to be his own personal political motivations/biases, it honestly makes me think that he shouldn’t be taken seriously, and isn’t qualified in any way to edit this page.
Like Outlander07 has said earlier, he appears to be a refined POV pusher. Kalariwarrior (talk) 04:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)Kalariwarrior (talk) 18:34, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
(came here from Kalaripayattu) Anarchyte, the IP range 2409:4073:0:0:0:0:0:0/34 is again on the pages Silambam and Adimurai. They seems to be involved in regional POV pushing with adding WP:OR, misrepresenting sources and unreliable sources. They don't want to have a proper discussion in the talk pages and is making baseless accusations. I can't give them an arbitration enforcement warning as they use different IP address for each edit. I've asked for page protection for Silambam. Could you revert these articles to their status-quo or protect them. They are showing WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality and don't want to listen to any of the editors here. This message they had left on my talk page with another IP, they are accusing me of minor problems already in the article. This is becoming a headache. They are boldy lying everywhere with no substantive evidences. I think they are not afraid of scrutiny since they are editing using multiple IPs. SUN EYE 1 20:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Anarchyte, it appears that Suneye1 has experienced the same forms of vandalism and unsourced, POV editing from this person as Outlander07 and I have. I was not aware of his presence in Silambam and Adimurai, as I am not a practitioner of either of those arts, and do not have adequate knowledge to edit those pages at this time, but from what I can tell, he appears to be entrenched in regionalistic and tribalistic politics that shouldn’t be be present in any informative, unbiased article.
However, another place where he’s put in an unsourced, regionalistic POV edit is on the Unniyarcha page, where he has stuck the word “Thiyyar” into the description, despite the word Chekavar, a word and page that already mentions the Thiyya by name, already being there. When I attempted to remove the redundant wording, he came on a few hours later and added it back in without giving any reason behind his edit.
It appears that he is causing trouble not only here on the Kalaripayattu page, but on the Silambam and Adimurai pages as well according to Suneye1. I would agree with what Suneye1 has stated, and believe that increasing the page protection or restricting this IP’s ability to edit on these pages may be the best course of action, but this is merely my thoughts on the matter.
I can also confirm that he has posted edits from multiple IPs aside from the one here. One of the ones he has posted from is IP ranges 157.46.141.57 and 157.44.177.126
The latter IP was used to accuse myself and Outlander07 as being the same person on Suneye1‘s talk page. While I guarantee that we are not the same person, it does seem that he’s angry that his unsourced and POV edits are being reverted and questioned. Kalariwarrior (talk) 04:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi all sorry for being late in discussion here.

Actually i need to make a point here is that I'm not into any disruptive edits or into any vandalism.

The user outlander07 calling me sock puppet is ridiculous.

I have been editing the kalaripayattu article with valod sources from the beginning.

Then suddenly the 2409:4073 range ip came and started disruptive editing and edit war.

In between i only try to discuss the issues to reach a consensus.

You can see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kalaripayattu here i have added madhya kerala style discussion.

Later the ip user, suspect that he is a well known wikipedia editor as he is quoting wikipedia rules, came anonymous and started editing disruptive and was into edit was with Kalariwarrior in between in also tried to resolve his claims of i sourced by providing sources.

I have not called anyone pro ezhava or pro nair.

Yes i have contributed to ezhava pages, with references, that doesn't mean I'm a vandal or a pro ezhava.

I have contributed into these pages relating to martial arts as I'm into that subject.

Also i need to make the point clear is that there is also thiyya vandal and tamil vandal adding the word thiyya and tamil (instead of kerala) frequently in page.

Please don't make any false accusations on me.

I'm here to contribute to martial atrs related history or things as I'm highly into.


Thank you Kalari Poothara (talk) 01:02, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I also suspect the more 'fake vandalism' will be coming from some users to make protect the pages. As i have seen it in many pages earlier, where some fake vandalism attack is carried to show the admins that these caste group is making vandalism (actually not) and forcing the admins to make the things on the page deleted on to increase the page level protection.

These types of proxy vandalism claims i have seen in many pages.

Like you can expect a guy coming today and writing in the article ' Ezhavas were the real kings and they invented kalaripayattu... ' like these.. actually the guy will not be a ezhava but making proxy vandalism attacks to make others think that ezhava are into vandalism and make other to delete all their things from page.

I have seen this tactics in multiple pages which are Outlander07@talk was highly into edit wars. I suspect him for that. Sorry if I'm wrong. Kalari Poothara (talk) 01:11, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I think it’s worth noting that Kalari Poothara, has sometimes posted unsourced good faith edits, but has also provided sources upon request, and has also contributed some valuable photos of various rituals performed in the practice of Kalaripayattu, most of which have been done even in the kalari I have trained in. Kalari Poothara‘s first language is not English, but the sourced contributions he has made are fairly solid. I clean up the wording and sentence structure in his edits, and have questioned him on unsourced edits such as Madhya Kalari, which Kalari Poothara mentioned above. After he provided the necessary sources, I allowed him to remove the information on Madhya Kalari from the page.
For what it is worth, while I do not know them personally, I think I can say that Kalari Poothara is not engaged in sock puppetry, but rather (with respect to Kalari Poothara) that he is merely inexperienced with sourcing in Wikipedia while making good faith edits. Kalariwarrior (talk) 04:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Also i have been editing only after making consensus through talk pages.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kalariwarrior#Madhya_Kerala_Style

You can see above an example of how i dealt with other users especially user Kalariwarrior, even before making an edit, i have started down discussion with him.

As I'm a new user(2 months), i always tried to aligned with the wikipedia rules and regulations.

Thank you Kalari Poothara (talk) 01:22, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Anarchyte (talkwork) 08:15, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

New Page Patrol December Newsletter

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A chart of the 2020 New Page Patrol Queue

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A question about leaving messages

Hello! You have recently granted me permission to being a pending changes reviewer (thank you very much!), and in your response [11] you said that you didn't see any warnings given. Would something like [12] or [13] not count? If not, can you show me what you mean? Similarly, if you meant an edit like this [14], what kind of warning? Thank you very much. SnazzyInfinity (chat?what I've done) 18:55, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

@SnazzyInfinity: I must've missed those. I was referring to edits like [15] [16] [17]. You should've warned the IPs in these situations. Anarchyte (talkwork) 04:10, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Check this out

I told you before there was a sockpuppetry involved in the recent changes made to the articles that I was accused of being in an edit war. That has now proven to be true[[18]]. Outlander07@talk 08:14, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

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Block evasion

Hello admin, can User Hsyukab be blocked? They are evading the block of Vallabhadeshn. Please check their contribs. --Ashleyyoursmile! 15:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ashleyyoursmile: Looks like HJ Mitchell got to them first. Anarchyte (talkwork) 15:31, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

RevDel request

Hello, can this be please removed from public view? Thank you. --Ashleyyoursmile! 13:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Done. Anarchyte (talkwork) 13:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you very much. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 13:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021).

Administrator changes

added TJMSmith
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Interface administrator changes

added AmandaNP

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Technical news

  • When blocking an IPv6 address with Twinkle, there is now a checkbox with the option to just block the /64 range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.
  • When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at WP:RfPP, and even link to the specific revision.
  • There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (phab:T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (phab:T275322).

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List of Programs broadcast by MeTV to protect

Can List of programs broadcast by MeTV be Protected due to numerous of unexplained and Unsourced edits going around, sometimes they could be vandalism from Anonymous Users. LooneyTraceYT (talk) 01:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done for 1 week. Anarchyte (talkwork) 05:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Move protection

Hi Anarchyte, as a follow up to the RFPP request to semi protect Wikipedia:RedWarn/Default Warnings as an highly visible script could you perhaps also move protect it to sysop only? Thanks in advance, Asartea Talk | Contribs 10:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Asartea: Done. I was going to do that initially but I didn't want to lock you all out from moving it if you needed/wanted to. Anarchyte (talkwork) 11:18, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Anarchyte, thanks! Asartea Talk | Contribs 11:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

My talkpage

Please un revdel my entire talk page history. The comment you removed did not warrant the rev deletion. Thanks. Hemiauchenia (talk) 07:00, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Hemiauchenia: Unfortunately, under Oversight policy, it did. Anarchyte (talkwork) 07:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
(Redacted)'s comment stated that he was not (Redacted). According to (Redacted), he was (Redacted). Nothing in the comment was overisight worthy. Hemiauchenia (talk) 07:05, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
@Hemiauchenia: Please see Wikipedia:Oversight/FAQ. This criterion isn't listed on the main OS page. (and please don't repost the suppressed information). Anarchyte (talkwork) 07:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
They didn't even fucking say their age. Nothing in the comment was oversight worthy. You've ruined my day. See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Entire_talkpage_history_oversighted Hemiauchenia (talk) 07:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I have filed requests to Oversight several times, have a rough idea of what's involved, and saw this request before it was redacted. I had a very similar conversation many years ago when an editor claimed something along the same lines was outing, there was a brief discussion about whether or not it was, and no action was taken. (I'm not going to link to the discussion directly because it allows people to work out what was redacted here). Hopefully, Arbcom will sort this out, as you've caused an editor to retire, which is never a nice feeling. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: I definitely agree. I did not intend to drive someone to retirement and I do hope Hemiauchenia reconsiders. I was told quite early on that Oversighters should err on the side of caution and should discuss the matter after it's been first suppressed. If ArbCom does however decide that this was too heavy handed I'm very willing to undo it. Anarchyte (talkwork) 16:06, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Hemiauchenia: I just had a discussion with AmandaNP and we came to the conclusion that the talk page suppression was unnecessary given the amount of intermediary edits between now and the time of the post. I've gone ahead and removed the suppression from your talk page while keeping the original post removed. Regards, Anarchyte (talkwork) 17:06, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

As an aside, the post at the top of this thread with all the redactions reminds me of this :-) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, I very much appreciate this. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Article: Water system

Please check the talk page of the Water system article, which explains an alternative to your Undo. Thank you. Mitral8 (talk) 22:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

The above link redirects you from the Water system article. I don't know how to do it (I am new). Please go to the talk page of the Water system article itself. Sorry about that. Mitral8 (talk) 22:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Edit warring?

Hi, Anarchyte. You have warned Moaqasaxz12 about edit warring on White slavery, but I can't see that they've reverted even once — just made a slew of consecutive edits (bad edits, removing sourced content, which I've warned them about). Are you assuming they're the same as Xwasx12s? Bishonen | tålk 10:01, 14 March 2021 (UTC).

You know what, you're right Bishonen. I mistakenly read both usernames as the same (both having 12 toward the end and a slew of a, s, and x, as well as being redlinked). I'm not sure if they're the same person but they both seem interested in very similar topics. I'm going to remove the edit war notice from their talk page because they in fact reached out after being reverted. Anarchyte (talkwork) 10:07, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! They could also be meatpuppets from some internet discussion elsewhere. It'll come out in the wash, I expect. Bishonen | tålk 10:19, 14 March 2021 (UTC).

Inquiry

Hey! Not to pressure you or anything but I noticed my request in WP:PERM/R was skipped. I have no issues with it as long as someone else could check it but I'm afraid other sysops would be entitled to skip it as well and think something's wrong with it/pending. Thank you! - 𓋹 𝓩𝓲𝓪𝓭 𝓡𝓪𝓼𝓱𝓪𝓭 𓋹 [user | talk] 11:35, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey Ziad Rashad. I definitely didn't intend to skip it, I just didn't get around to it. If it's still unreviewed tomorrow I'll be sure to have a look. Anarchyte (talkwork) 11:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
@Anarchyte: Sounds great, thank you for the clarification! - 𓋹 𝓩𝓲𝓪𝓭 𝓡𝓪𝓼𝓱𝓪𝓭 𓋹 [user | talk] 06:03, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy rescue

Thanks for your note[19] on my talk about your proposed speedy deletion of Category:Legislative speakers in Czechoslovakia. You reverted it, but it drew my attention to find out why the category was empty. I tracked the problem down to this edit[20] by @Good Olfactory, which incorrectly removed the category's only content: Category:Lists of legislative speakers in Czechoslovakia. I presume that was an error by GO, so I reverted it, and the category is no longer empty. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:23, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Itchy hot-cat finger. I'm not sure what I was thinking. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:05, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl

On 24 March 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl will be the first main-series Pokémon games not developed by Game Freak since the franchise's inception 25 years ago? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Request on 22:37:59, 24 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Chris Zacharias


Hello reviewer, Clearly I'm a neophyte to this and am terribly confused by all the code required for what I see as little more than an email. Nevertheless, you rejected my submission for APO Encryption as it being subject to copyright. It is my business, my website, and my writing on that website, yet ...

So, I've changed the copyright notice on the website to (cc) or creative commons and Free Cultural Works. I hope that resolves this issue and we can proceed with the creation of a wiki page for my software?


Chris Zacharias (talk) 22:37, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

WikiLoop 2020 Year in Review

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Doja Cat

 Courtesy link: Doja Cat

Hey! I came here to request that Doja Cat's Wikipedia page be unprotected. This article was protected due to vandalism in May 2020, when Doja Cat faced accusations of participating in racist conversations on the internet. The accusations have since died down (and to an extent have been proven false). Furthermore...

1. Due to the article's protection, a lot of necessary information doesn't get added until long after they happen.

2. I'm sure there would be many unconfirmed users interested in adding content (Doja Cat is pretty famous right now, so this is a given).

3. The risk for vandalism is significantly lower than it was before.

Thank you. versacespacetalk to me 16:24, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

@Versacespace: Doja Cat was protected because of vandalism and WP:BLP violations. The protection is scheduled to end in a couple of months time, so I don't see much point in unprotecting it early because she's still in the news, and it's very unlikely that someone this popular won't immediately be vandalised. Indeed, I expect the protection to be re-applied shortly after it expires. Remember that edit requests can be posted on the talk page by users that do not meet the semi-protection requirements. Regards, Anarchyte (talkwork) 07:35, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).

Administrator changes

removed AlexandriaHappyme22RexxS

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
  • Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.

Technical news

  • When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
  • Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)

Arbitration


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Happy First Edit Day!

Concrete Cow deletion

Hi,

Not the author of this article but I did produce the radio series. It is regularly repeated on BBC 4Xtra and is also available a commercial download. Wondering why the article would be deleted.

Adamjamesbromley (talk) 10:52, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Adamjamesbromley. I've nominated it for deletion because I believe it fails to meet our notability guidelines. There is a lack of significant coverage by reliable sources. If you know of any (print or online), I'd recommend posting them on the discussion page. Anarchyte (talkwork) 12:10, 3 April 2021 (UTC)